HDMI 2.1 and HDCP 2.3 EXPLAINED - Why You Should/Shouldn’t Upgrade Your Home Theater Late in 2020

HDMI 2.1 and HDCP 2.3 EXPLAINED - Why You Should/Shouldn’t Upgrade Your Home Theater This Late in 2020
Should you upgrade your home theater? Should you wait? Should you be all that worried about HDCP 2.3? I answer these questions and more in this heavily researched episode! It’s a doozy! Check it out!
0:00 Animated Intro
0:55 Talking Intro
1:14 Welcome to my channel
1:45 How you can support this channel
2:37 A Bit of History - HDMI and HDCP
7:10 HDCP terms to know
10:20 Should you upgrade your home theater?
10:57 My home theater components
12:38 Recap
12:55 Home Theater components aren't made to last in the digital age
14:14 My suggestion
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[@johnwighton]

It's now 2021 (October) - I decided to upgrade my system, TV (home cinema). Your video was very useful and also helped me understand the specific issues that I have recently experienced having done only a partial upgrade.

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you for your kind words, John. Truly appreciated. 😊

[@kpv123]

Excellent content and presentation. Way to go. You were very helpful even for people in 2021 an 2022

[@khobia2]

Great job Elan. Appreciate the breakdown of all this stuff. Now I feel educated.

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks a lot, Michael! 🙌

[@RyanSandersTheSage]

Wow, bro! Excellent presentation! Engaging and informative! Extremely helpful!

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you very much! 🤘

[@azeemkhwaja]

Amazing!! One of the best explanation I have ever seen.

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you very much!

[@davidp4128]

Thank you so much for this. You helped provide so much clarity for me. Amazing video.

[@ealanosborne]

You’re very welcome! 🤘

[@bf9142ftw]

Great stuff man!

[@dkidl2000]

Thank you so much for explaining this to me!

[@Missing0o0]

The video I wanted and needed. Thanks guy.

[@kfl611]

Updated my audio video system in 10 to 15 years? I haven't updated my checking account in that long, so I'm still old old school !!! Excellent video, keep making them. PLEASE !

[@ealanosborne]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@DanH11]

This was good info. Kinda wish I'd found it sooner! Holiday season 2021 I upgraded my aging display to a 4K 120Hz 75" panel but didn't research enough to realize I was getting one with only HDMI 2.0b ports. I'd just figured if it does 4k120 then it must have the ports to support it... 😒 Then a few months ago I got a fancy new AV receiver on sale that *does* support HDMI 2.1... but turns out it's only for *one* of the inputs. 👀 I saw HDMI 2.1 support and thought, "Aha! Not gonna mess up *this* purchase! I got the new standard this time!" only to realize afterwards that it didn't mean *all* the HDMI in's were 2.1. 😬 Now just a few days ago I finally managed to snag a PS5 at MSRP and, well, I guess I wont be taking *full* advantage of it's capabilities, but whatever. I'm more-or-less up to modern standards after having previously been on a TV and receiver that were nearly a decade old. At least now I know better when I upgrade everything again another decade from now not to make these same oversights. 😅 Who knows, maybe someone will read this comment and avoid making the same mistakes I did.

[@ealanosborne]

That’s a positive way to look at it! You never know who might come across this comment! 😁

[@PhoneSpecificationsUSA]

Great video. You will always be able to get HDCP2.3 down converters so that you can still use your older, HDCP2.2, devices when the signal is encoded with HDCP2.3. Right now you can get HDCP 2.2 to HDCP 1.4 down converters. So, when HDCP2.3 comes out, there will definitely be HDCP2.3 to HDCP 2.2 down converters.

[@ryanschipp8513]

Very nice job explaining things!!! You made it funny too!

[@DCPseudoYT]

Explained beautifully. Subbed and liked

[@goldenearaudioreview4904]

Great video! It is 100% true that your speakers are the better long term investment.

[@retro_escape2969]

Great info thanks! I'm trying to select what HDMI switch to get for my home/work computer setup.

[@madoldgranny]

Very well explained - thankyou

[@ArvindPal-jy8vq]

There was no reason for such amazing video production quality for this video LOL. Pleasantly entertained. Thanks Dude.

[@ealanosborne]

You’re welcome! 😄🤘

[@rocityboy]

Very entertaining! Subbed

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you so much! 🙌

[@kuttycrew]

Great presentation, very helpful,

[@ill4573]

Thank you. Excellent presentation!

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you! 🤘

[@stitchg6060]

Best way to describ3d all this technology craziness that i have seen. Thank you!

[@ealanosborne]

You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@MODERN-GAMING-IS-TRASH]

Very underrated for sure

[@nabeelali7806]

@@ealanosborne so if you have 43 inch Sony Bravia tv with a HDCP 2.3 will you get 4K 120FPS on your PS5

[@briandalion366]

Will this still support 120 FPS on my gaming? My port is hdcp2.3

[@nabeelali7806]

@@briandalion366 same with mine I think

[@michelbeaulieu300]

Very clear and interresting to understand all the informations about standards for AV Bravo!

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you very much! 🙌

[@shaneeldridge5747]

Good break down, thank you

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you very much!

[@Orlex]

Great video and great youtuber! Your video is so entertaining and detailed ,I love it! Rightl,but I have one question... I own lg cx which are hdmi 2.1 and I have ps5 which is also hdmi 2.1. But my amp is 12year old yamaha... so time to upgrade. I thinking of getting Denon 2700 which is HDCP 2.3 but not hdmi 2.1 so is that will be an issue ?

[@ealanosborne]

According to this article below, the x2700H does have HDMI 2.1, since it can pass through 8K 60Hz and 4K 120Hz, so you should be future proof! 👍 www.whathifi.com/us/reviews/denon-avr-x2700h

[@cryptoanjuna8343]

Detailed information but u made it interesting to watch and perfect for somone like me for wanting to know the nitty gritty stuff

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you very much! 🤘

[@IzunaGaiden]

Amazing channel.

[@KC-qr4sc]

Thanks for the video..."Excellent"

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you very much!

[@bandaralharbi6301]

well done bro

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you very much!

[@dbiagas210]

Nice job! Thanks for explaining this well.... I'm having an issue with arc.... used to use an hdcp 2.2 receiver with my tv and switched to an hdcp 2.3 compliant receiver... now arc messes up when i use my ATV.... could it be a handshake issue due to hdcp or are they completely unrelated? I think the ATV 4k is also only hdcp 2.2 compliant... my tv is from 2017......

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks for the compliments! But regarding your issue, that's really bizarre. Sometimes you just might run into unforeseen issues when upgrading one component to something newer, even though on paper nothing should be of an issue. You should only have issues with _content_ that is encoded with HDCP 2.3. Although when was the last time you upgraded your HDMI cables? Now that you have a newer, more modern receiver that can push more data through, maybe the cables need to be able to handle 18 Gbps or even 48 Gbps just to be absolutely future proof? I know I've had issues in the past with shitty cables that _claimed_ they could handle up to 48 Gbps, but in reality, couldn't. Sucks, but just something you might need to troubleshoot with home theater.

[@Sardaukar_7]

Thank you

[@TheCleaner6969]

I need a switch that will have at least 3 hdmi ports & pass the hdcp through to the tv. Do you know of any?

[@tahaabderaouffritis1161]

only now I'm sure that my TV is a 60 fps 4K and hdmi 2.0. I was so worried that it may be 1.4. Thank you.

[@klaymoon1]

Great overview! A quick question please. Is HDR 10bit 4:4:4 supported in HDMI 2.1? I think I read somewhere only 4.2.2. is supported for HDR, but that does not make a sense to me.

[@ealanosborne]

As far as I’ve read online, HDMI 2.1 is more than capable of handling 4K HDR 60fps 10-Bit video with 4:4:4 sub sampling, since even that only has a bandwidth of 22.28 Gbps, and HDMI 2.1 can handle data transfer rates up to 48 Gbps. 🤷‍♂️

[@ExtremeMusicSpace]

very instructive I have become a lot wiser, i running on a old yamaha RX-V673 i missing HDCP 2.2 cannot run 4K 60 fps (xbox one) so i plug the hdmi to my QE50Q60T - 4K QLED TV, sound with optical jack xbox one to reciever

[@MovieCaveDave]

Hey, I have a important question, I just got the Denon x2700 an upgrade from the 2400h, and everything is was working fine, I had to do the firmware update and now when ever I get a DV picture from my Sony X800 MK2 or my Panny UB820 through the receiver, it gives me vertical barcode kind of lines down half of my E8, I have it set to ‘4K Enhanced’ and the only way to stop it is to set 24p to off on the devices, it did go when I changed inputs on the 2700 but that’s inexcusable? So I phoned the company I got it from, they sent out a new one and the same thing happened, I have changed and checked HDMI leads, I use Audio Quest, I have changed inputs on the TV, It only happens if I want to go into the settings on the 2700, and come back out, it makes no sense to me, I have tried it all, I have gone directly into the tv instead of the 2700, from the players and that seems ok, but because I can’t replicate the Denon’s ‘settings’ screen I can’t tell if it’s the TV’s panel or ports..online streaming DV from a Apple TV is, as is Xbox but that’s because they are streaming I presume and there are no DV games. I have a team coming to repair it but what do I say the fault is, I’m pretty well home cinema educated but this has got me so confused as I don’t know if it’s the TV or receiver ? It happened on 2 receivers so it can’t be them can it ? Any advice sorry about the essay, is is a HDCP issue P.s it doesn’t do it with just HDR only Dolby Vision

[@ealanosborne]

Sounds like you’ve done extensive troubleshooting yourself, so there’s not much more I can suggest, given that you’ve already done what I would’ve done. The only thing I do know is that the new 8K Denon receivers have been reporting problems with their HDMI 2.1 chipsets. But I’m sure that team that’s headed there will be able to take any necessary steps to try and get to the root of the problem.

[@warre1]

My Denon receiver support HDCP 2.3 and HDMI 2.0 . My LG UHD BD player and LG UHD TV both support HDCP 2.2 and all works great. Using high speed HDMI 2 with ethernet type cable.

[@ealanosborne]

Hell yeah! Nice! It’s only if you wanted to do some peak next-gen gaming at 4K 120 Hz or eventually wanted to watch 8K content that it’ll give you problems. But I’m like you at the moment - 4K 60Hz is plenty for me, and my receiver is still HDCP 2.2. 👍

[@thomasmashig3254]

Great Video. Thank you so much for your help. Tom from Lets Watch TV Now

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks, Tom! 😊

[@sanddancer3103]

You are a genius

[@amanikandan8879]

Man..!! ur a Dope ♥️🔥

[@docwho10th88]

Need some advice please,my projector is 2.2 HDCP inputs and the receiver is also 2.2. inputs and outputs.. should I upgrade? Just want to keep 4k, HDR, and all current codecs. How many years from now do you think i am good for? I just subscribed btw!

[@ealanosborne]

I've already had issues with HDCP 2.3 when I attempted to watch The Last of Us on HBO Max through an AppleTV 4K Gen 2 using a regular HDMI cable. Only when I hooked up a high speed HDMI 2.1 cable did it work, so it's starting to happen in rare instances these days. I'd say by 2024 or 2025, you'll more than likely run into more problems if you're still using HDCP 2.2 devices.

[@docwho10th88]

@@ealanosborne Thanks for the heads up!

[@kranthikiran1637]

@Ealan Osborne I bought Klipsch reference 5.1, bookshelf speakers from Costco. There is a 12 inch klipsch sub for sale in offer up for $80. Do you think I can add that to reference speakers to make it 5.2.2?

[@ealanosborne]

As long as your receiver has 2 subwoofer outputs, go for it! A lot of receivers so, nowadays...

[@kranthikiran1637]

@@ealanosborne I am buying a Yamaha TSR 700

[@ealanosborne]

@@kranthikiran1637 Oh! Right, right. Sorry, I just realized we’ve had a conversation already. 😄 Yeah, man, that Yamaha is 7.2, so that means 2 sub outputs. 👍

[@kranthikiran1637]

@@ealanosborne Yeah. Thanks for the inputs man. I like the presentation, hope you get more subs. Cheers

[@terriot]

Even if your receiver only has one sub output you can buy a splitter and run two subs. A lot of the mid range receivers with two sub outputs are still only one just y ed together on the inside of the unit.

[@spencerkantrow5877]

Great video man. What are your thoughts on the Sony X85j to pair with my ps5? It has hdcp 2.3 and 120hz. Also if it has hdcp 2.3 does that mean it has hdmi 2.1 ports?

[@ealanosborne]

That’s a fantastic TV. It’s always good to stick with the Sony ecosystem if possible. And HDCP 2.3 is usually paired with HDMI 2.1, yes. Although there are a few TVs from a couple years ago that are HDMI 2.1, but still HDCP 2.2, since it was the very beginning of that tech evolving (like my LG C9 OLED). But going forward, they’re usually paired together. 👍

[@spencerkantrow5877]

@@ealanosborne thanks for the quick response man. I will probably get that one.

[@Freeman_W]

@@ealanosborne Why does my Samsung tv have HDCP 2.3 but not HDMI 2.1 ?

[@ealanosborne]

@@Freeman_W 🤷‍♂️ That’s a head scratcher, for sure!

[@tommyladik1408]

Great video, My ? is do u need your tv and your receiver to have Earc to have uncompressed audio? I just bought a Hisense and it only has hdmi 2.0 im about to buy a new receiver to replace a 10year old pioneer and want to know if I should look for 1 with Earc to get uncompressed audio and sell my tv and get 1 with erac too?

[@ealanosborne]

Yes, both your TV and receiver need to support eARC in order to utilize its full potential

[@tommyladik1408]

@@ealanosborne It would be nice if someone could make some kind of converter to make regular arc to Earc capable..

[@TudorMac]

I have a ps5 and lg oled bx ,and in ps5 settings it is showing hdcp 2.3 ,it should be hdmi 2.1? ,am i doing something wrong?

[@ealanosborne]

Yes, it should be HDMI 2.1 since it supports 120 Hz refresh rate. I glanced at the specs on the LG OLED BX and that is HDMI 2.1 and HDCP 2.2 Seems like everything should work for 4K, as well as 120 Hz gaming

[@gustavocabrera9083]

Do I need to upgrade my HDMI cable? I bought it back in 2015 but it’s only to connect my LG C1 to the sound bar which has Dolby atmos. If it’s just sound can it handle it?

[@ealanosborne]

Oh no doubt. It’s only when dealing with video that you’ll need higher bandwidth HDMI cables (like Ultra High Speed, for example). With audio, standard HDMI works well, since it’s a much lower bandwidth.

[@gustavocabrera9083]

@@ealanosborne Thanks so much for the quick response!

[@rodrigocarioca1]

friend, talk a little about the Alienware M15 R7 with RTX 3070 Ti with HDMI 2.1 and USB-C outputs. why RTX only works using HDMI ???? what is the maximum hetz I can use with the HDMI, my nomitor is a QHD 240hz 1ms ?

[@hj8607]

If TV is hdcp 2.3 compliant and can take in content from ethernet (smart tv) and ,say firestick or Rocu , can the eARC send dolby atmos, etc., over to a 2.b AVR ? (both have eARC)

[@ealanosborne]

Yes, as long as the AVR supports eARC, that should be fine, depending on the chip set the manufacturer put in it. eARC isn’t strictly an HDMI 2.1 exclusive protocol, it’s just that ALL HDMI 2.1 chip sets DO support eARC, but only SOME HDMI 2.0b chip sets support eARC. 👍

[@imohbalu]

Hi if ps5 HDMI port are 2.1... And PC monitor HDMI 2.2.. What type of cable should I buy to connect them.. HDMI 2.1 or HDMI 2.2 ?

[@ealanosborne]

There is no such thing as HDMI 2.2… yet. The latest HDMI to date is HDMI 2.1a, so just to be on the safe side, make sure your cable supports HDMI 2.1 and 8K resolutions and it’ll last you for many years to come. 🤘

[@imohbalu]

@@ealanosborne thanks for the feedback brother... Also if the pc monitor is 2.0 with 165HZ.... Is it good for ps5 or should I just search for pc monitor that has 2.1 HDMI port ?

[@ericzakreski5014]

I am looking at buying a new receiver and TV and this whole HDCP 2.2/2.3 is hard to get info on. The receiver I want to buy is the Aventage RX-A4A and the TV I want is the LG OLED G1 Series. The receiver's HDMI outputs are HDCP2.3 and the TV input is HDCP2.2. Will I have connectivity issues?

[@ealanosborne]

No. Think of HDCP 2.3 as always being connected to 8K TVs. So there may be issues in the future (I’m talking many years in the future) where there might be something streamed in 8K. Your receiver will be able to output it, but your TV might not accept it. But streaming in 8K is still too costly, so Netflix/Disney+ aren’t going to do that anytime soon. So you might not have any issues at all anyway, since it might recognize you have a 4K TV, then send a compatible 4K signal. Make sense?

[@janiceminer]

I just purchased an LGC1. Unfortunately see one in G1 manufactured after September 2021 are having issues with HD CP. Supposedly they’re working on a software upgrade. I may be returning my C one if they take too long. Cannot play 4K videos from my ultra high DEF Blu-ray player or my Roku ultra box. LG is aware and working on it. Good luck

[@ericzakreski5014]

@@ealanosborne I found website that says HDCP will be compatible across all versions. Hopefully this is the case

[@christopherjohncapulong415]

Hi, thanks a lot for this video! I'm planning to buy a new tv and upon checking the hdmi ports it only has a hdmi 1.4b, hdmi2.0 and hdmi 2.2hdcp. Will this be ok do you think? Since I'm also considering buying a ps5 and soundbar in the future. Thanks

[@ealanosborne]

If you’re NOT a hardcore gamer, HDMI 2.0 will do fine. If you DO want to play PS5 games at the highest level (4K @ 120Hz), your new TV needs to have at least 1 HDMI 2.1 port. If you don’t care about 8K and are fine watching 4K Blu-rays and streaming shows, HDCP 2.2 will do fine. 👍

[@christopherjohncapulong415]

@@ealanosborne unfortunately the tv that i'm planning to buy does not have hdmi 2.1. Can I use the hdcp 2.2 instead in the future for ps5 to maximize the highest level of gameplay (4k, 120hz)?

[@ealanosborne]

@@christopherjohncapulong415 Sorry, HDCP doesn’t work like that. It’s just copy protection. HDMI has to do with data transfer speeds and bandwidth, and only HDMI 2.1 can handle 4K 120Hz bandwidth. Your TV HAS to have HDMI 2.1 to maximize PS5 gameplay. HDMI 2.0b can still do 4K 60Hz which still looks awesome though.

[@christopherjohncapulong415]

@@ealanosborne Ok, copy on that. I just hope that the hdmi2.0 ports can be upgraded to 2.1 thru firmware upgrades. I'll just ask the customer support 'bout that. Anyway, thanks again for answering my queries and also for the informative video! Keep it up! 👍👍

[@korndog81]

@@christopherjohncapulong415 HDMI is a hardware issue that can't be patched in with a software update. But it's no big deal really, you can still do 1280 and 1440p/120hz online, and 4k/60hz for single player games. Just to add I can't see too many games supporting 4k/120 so your not missing out on much. What tv do you have?

[@KISS_MY_CONVERSE]

im still lost. Should i buy a hdcp 2.3 receiver???? I have a 4k OLED tv and a gaming pc. But i cant get 4.4.4 60fps with my current receiver.

[@ealanosborne]

Not sure why that is. HDCP 2.3 just has to do with when there is 8K streaming content or 8K Blu rays in the future. Not sure which receiver you have, though, so I’m not sure why you’re not getting 4:4:4 60fps

[@nanayawasamoahafriyie]

Just what I needed. My receiver is hdcp 2.3. My TV is hdmi 2.0. My cable is 2.0. My receiver does not display on my TV. Guess I have to get hdmi 2.1 to get it to display

[@higginsbrandon9256]

Did it work

[@joshfulcifan1015]

Thankyou for this great video. Wonder if you could help - my TV I'm installing is a Sony 2019 Model and the User Manual states the the HDMI ports ARE "HDCP 2.3 Compatible". -And I plan to install my PS5 Console soon. Anyway, that being said - Can I connect my PS 5 to it with a "2.1" Cable, or anything superior to that?? Also, the TV states it only has a refresh rate of 100HZ, but I've seen enough videos on my model to give me an idea of the TV itself it also "supporting" 120HZ input (of which I need), and does the previous HDMI information that I've provided support my concerns? Thanks!

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks for the compliments, Josh! To better answer your questions, do you happen to know the specific model number of your Sony TV?

[@joshfulcifan1015]

@@ealanosborne Cool. A "Sony X7000G 65" 4K Ultra HD HDR Smart Bravia" Model. States on the stores own websites that it is an 100HZ Refresh Rate".

[@ealanosborne]

I don’t know what to tell you, other than that what I found shows that it wasn’t until their 2020 XBR line of TVs that Sony started supporting HDMI 2.1 (which is the feature that will give you 4K 120 Hz). Yes, it is HDCP 2.3, which is good for eventual 8K content that will come out years from now, but I don’t see anything about a 100 Hz refresh rate. It looks like the X7000G is the last model of Sony 65” TVs that didn’t support HDMI 2.1. But 4K 60 Hz will still look great with a PS5 hooked up to it, in my opinion. 🤷‍♂️ Otherwise, you’ll need to invest in a 2020 or newer model to be officially “future proof” for years to come.

[@joshfulcifan1015]

@@ealanosborne Yeah, I should have done my homework and paid a little extra for a 120Hz Compatible TV. So what you are saying that with my model - I would be fine to use "just" a 2.0 HDMI Cable to achieve adequate 4K from my 4K UHD player and Playstation 5?

[@ealanosborne]

@@joshfulcifan1015 Absolutely. 120 Hz refresh rate is only necessary with hyper fast action, like multiplayer on Call of Duty, so you get the smoothest possible video feed during the chaos. But 60 Hz is still really fast and very adequate for any 4K video signal.

[@thorbampougias311]

if we have hdmi 2.o on tv and blue ray and hdcp 2.2 to two of them, an av denon hdmi 2 .o hpcp 2.3 and support 2.2 the cables blue ray, tv out what must be? its ok to use this cable? or must be also hdmi 2.o? 8 k HDMI 2.1 Cable Support 8K@60Hz 4K@120Hz 48Gbps-Ethernet eARC Dolby Atmos Vision it says thatHDMI 2.1 technology is backwards compatible with HDMI 2.0b/2.0a/2.0/1.4/1.3/1.2/1.1. 【UNIVERSAL COMPATIBILITY】

[@ealanosborne]

An 8K/HDMI 2.1 cable should be backwards compatible to all previous versions, yes

[@thorbampougias311]

@@ealanosborne thank you 😁

[@franciscoguardado773]

so hdcp 2.2 should support 1080p 120 fps correct? (Using hdmi 2.1)

[@ealanosborne]

HDMI 2.1 paved the way for supported bandwidths like 8K/60Hz and 4K/120Hz, so even HDMI 2.0 still technically supports 1080p up to 120Hz. And HDCP 2.2 came along when 4K content started becoming the norm. 🤘

[@raudnerstrife]

I'm still using my PS4 Pro, bought a new LG 65" which only supports HDMI 2.0, but on my PS4, it says HDCP 2.3, How?

[@ealanosborne]

Even when new technologies are available, it’s still up to the manufacturers to decide if and when they will adopt those new technologies. So I guess Sony decided to adopt HDCP 2.3 before making the jump to HDMI 2.1? And is your LG and OLED TV? LG still might only offer HDMI 2.1 on their OLED TVs… I’d have to research that again. Hard to keep up sometimes… 😄

[@raudnerstrife]

@@ealanosborne mine's not OLED, it's one of the cheaper ones, the LG65UP8050PSB. Only says 2.0 though, but the bigger one like 70+ inches are 2.1

[@babymaker13th]

So if I decide to hook up to the hdcp2.3 won’t make a difference now not even to up-grade

[@62wjacks]

Yeah I have to disagree with you a bit on that topic of all your devices being HDCP 2.3 compliant, so for example I have an LG C1 OLED from 2021, my PS4 Which is now and only HDCP 2.3 compliant since it was updated, and my 2017 model Onkyo TNR 676 which is still only HDCP 2.2, so when I try to run everything via HDMI 2.1 cable which is all I use running through eARC, I still experience my screen going black for maybe 2 or 3 seconds and then it comes back on, and it does this constantly...! Is there anyway to fix this, or will I just have to upgrade my Av reciver?

[@supergoobergirlable]

maybe try 2.2 good quality cables?

[@namechane1758]

Just wait till HDMI 2.1a/b/g/ax comes out

[@ealanosborne]

I know, right? Technology’s moving too quickly! 😄

[@robertmello4217]

The Sony 950G does not have hdmi 2.1 but it does have hdcp 2.3. Does this mean that it can have the same transmission as one with hdmi 2.1 and can be used on the ps5 or Xbox X? Help me! Tkx

[@ealanosborne]

Yes, of course. You can still play all the video games you want. The only thing that TV can’t do is play video games at their peak performance (4K @120 Hz) since it’s not HDMI 2.1. But the 950G can still support video game playing at 4K 60 Hz which still looks phenomenal. I would personally be fine with that, since I’m not a hard core gamer that has to have the best of the best with video games. 👍

[@robertmello4217]

@@ealanosborne I am also a casual player. But I am looking for a TV with a good price and that serves these new video games and movies well for a few years. I had seen an oled cx but I am afraid to burn in, without thinking that the price is higher. I was in doubt between this 950G or the Q80T. Thx

[@ealanosborne]

@@robertmello4217 I have a slightly older C9 and I swear by it. LG OLED is the best in the business right now. It may cost more, but worth it in the end. It just looks so pretty. 😀

[@robertmello4217]

@@ealanosborne i can only imagine jajajjaa 🤣

[@robertmello4217]

@@ealanosborne i try buy this is oled tv. Or no.

[@MrHenharel]

And an HDMI cable with high speed is enough, all the rest is an eye-catcher

[@E_DUBBLE]

Can HDCP 2.2 be upgraded to 2.3 via firmware updates (like eArc over HDM 2.0) or its it something that is hardware based (HDMI 2.0 vs HDMI 2.1)

[@ealanosborne]

I’ve read that the more expensive receivers (~$800+) are equipped with the ability to be upgraded via firmware. Your entry level receivers don’t have that, like my Onkyo tx-nr787. But the model up (tx-nr797) does have the firmware upgrade option, just cuz it’s newer. 🤷‍♂️ Go figure. So just read the fine print, because it’s not crystal clear which do and which don’t.

[@EvSolo]

@@ealanosborne my soundbar can be updated via firmware but my question was can the HDCP protocol be updated via a firmware update or is it something that is tied to hardware

[@ealanosborne]

@@EvSolo It is tied to the hardware. But as I said before, it depends on the manufacturer which models and devices will be capable of being updated via firmware. So budget equipment you just need to get newer equipment if you wanna go from HDCP 2.2 to 2.3, but more expensive equipment you can keep and just update the firmware to go from HDCP 2.2 to 2.3, if and when it gets released.

[@EvSolo]

@@ealanosborne sorry but this sounds contradictory. If it is tied to hardware how can it be updated via firmware? There are HDMI 2.1 HDCP 2.2 devices as well as HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.3 devices. My question is if it's possible to update the HDCP protocol via firmware update (assuming your device has update capability.) If you can update something over firmware then it is not tied to hardware. For example you can't update HDMI 2.0 to 2.1 via a firmware update. You need new hardware. However a feature like eArc can be applied to an existing HDMI 2.0 port via firmware. Do you see what I'm saying?

[@ealanosborne]

@@EvSolo Yep. These are questions I would also love to have answered. I mentioned at the end of this video that it was a complicated topic, and after rewriting the script several times, I still had questions. So if you find the answer, please let me know, because clearly what I’ve researched and read already seems to be disputed elsewhere. 🤷‍♂️

[@rgruenhaus]

I have an ONKYO TX-NR6100 with a QLED 65" Samsung and a Sony UDP 4K player bought in June 2023. Not breaking the bank is bottom line $2000.

[@waterzipper]

My optima UHD50 has HDMI 2.0 I'm not worried. My projector is not getting replaced until 8K is affordable.

[@ealanosborne]

That’s my plan, too. 4K is a-okay with me for now. 😄👍

[@kevinmonahan54]

okay getting lost so should i look for a tv with 2.1hdmi and 2.2 hdcp :S?

[@ealanosborne]

HDMI 2.1 and HDCP 2.3 are the latest, so if your TV has both, it’s the best for future proofing, lasting you YEARS to come with most advancements in tech

[@higginsbrandon9256]

Ok so my older say 2016 -2018 tv shows hdcp error when I plug a Roku+ up to it an will not show a picture on my camera recording system what's my problem

[@ealanosborne]

@@higginsbrandon9256 Possibly the HDMI cable. For the first time EVER just two days ago, I had an HDCP error when trying to watch The Last of Us on HBO on my AppleTV 4K. I had a High Speed (HDMI 2.0b) cable connected to it, which never gave me issues before. I then connected my Ultra High Speed cable (HDMI 2.1 that I had connected to my 4K Blu-ray player) to the AppleTV and it worked fine. Wow. I guess HDCP errors have officially begun…

[@higginsbrandon9256]

Well everything works fine on my 4k ultra hd TV But I got this older bigger plasma screen I want to watch everything on

[@higginsbrandon9256]

Oh man yea me too it's BS

[@matthewmcevoy4717]

So HDCP 2.3 have the same compatibilities as HDMI 2.1?

[@deciduousoutdoors436]

Yes

[@bearmerica6668]

My dell monitor won't let me use AppleTv. This is crazy because I could before until I did an update. Apple knows of this.

[@davewhitegt]

How the fuck do you only have 2k subs??? Your content and vids punch wayyy out of their weight class. I’d like to see this become a bigger channel. 👍🏻 new sub and enjoy your vids.

[@ealanosborne]

Hahaaaa! Thanks for the compliments, David! Growth is my goal, so thanks for helping that subscriber count go up! And tell your friends! 😀🙌

[@ArcadianGenesis]

Almost no console video games actually support 4K/120. Hell, many PS5 games don't even support 4K/60 - they make you choose between "performance mode" (1080/60) or "fidelity mode" (4K/30). So...does *anything* even utilize HDMI 2.1 yet?

[@ealanosborne]

Precisely. I get wanting to buy future proof consoles or equipment now, so you're not needing to upgrade in a year or two, but needing to pay ridiculous prices now for a 8K TV or feeling like one MUST have everything HDMI 2.1 right now is jumping the gun, for sure. Just upgrade when prices come down in a few years. 4K 60Hz is fine for me, especially since I'm not the most hardcore gamer out there, I'm mostly into films. Thanks for commenting!

[@ArcadianGenesis]

@@ealanosborne Hey, thanks for the reply. While I have your attention, let me ask you this. I have a PS5, a Yamaha RX-V385 receiver, and an LG CX TV (arriving next week). This receiver can do 4K/60 passthrough, but the TV can display 4K/120. It seems I have two choices: pass the PS5 signal through the receiver and then output to the TV, or connect the PS5 directly to the TV and use the ARC for surround sound. Given we've established that practically no content exists at 4K/120, is there any advantage to the latter method? Is there any disadvantage of passing through the receiver?

[@ealanosborne]

@@ArcadianGenesis I'd plug the PS5 into the TV and use ARC. Just as a matter of convenience, since all my components are hidden away in a media closet, I pass everything through my Onkyo receiver. On paper, it says it supports Dolby Vision, but when I did some tests with some WiSA speakers a few weeks back, I plugged my XBOX One S into the TV directly...and films just looked better. I think the processor in my LG C9 can just handle visuals better than my Onkyo, so I'd let your CX do the heavy lifting for picture quality, cuz those OLED chips are insanely good.

[@ArcadianGenesis]

@@ealanosborne Okay. So even if I run an HDMI 2.1 cable from the PS5 to the receiver, and another HDMI 2.1 cable from the receiver to the TV, there could *still* be something lost in the passthrough?

[@ealanosborne]

@@ArcadianGenesis Well, since the RX-V385 is the first in its class to offer HDMI 2.1 ports, there might not be a difference after all. My Onkyo is a couple years old now, so it only has HDMI 2.0b and HDCP 2.2. That’s why I see a difference when I plug my XBOX directly into my C9. Try both ways, and test it out to know for sure. But since the CX processor is tailor made to produce stunning visuals, you probably want to let it process the picture. Yamaha is a trusted brand, but their chip is meant to process both picture AND audio. That’s a lot to process. So in the end, it might prove to be better to let the CX process picture, and the Yamaha to just process audio. But only testing will get to the real truth! 😀🙌

[@Zenithity]

This video satisfied my ADHD

[@JesseGuthrieSF]

HDMI 2.1 will do full uncompressed color 4.4.4 video at 120hz.

[@majorkonfuzion1007]

HDCP 4, so secure that is unwatchable in any smart tv now and in the future. 😗

[@Zenbeau]

HDMI 2.1 can do 10K/120 FPS? wut.....i'm pretty sure the number was 4K/120 FPS. isn't it?

[@ealanosborne]

That’s the theoretical max that HDMI 2.1 can handle. But no source is even close to that…yet.

[@Zenbeau]

@@ealanosborne damn alright. you seem to know alot about this stuff. btw do you know how many Hz can HDMI 2.1 push at 1080p? i can't seem to find that info anywhere :/

[@Mr10usdad]

no 4k without HDMI 2.1 on streaming services......

[@babymaker13th]

I’m confused I’m am now watching this in 2024 am I still behind ??

[@ealanosborne]

Nah…I’ve only run into a couple issues even now where it said there was an HDCP handshake problem. But it’s VERY rare. And only on streaming services, not when I’m watching something through a Blu-ray player.

[@noahtaflinger182]

man sorta sounding like johnny silverhand

[@PhilJohnston]

Thank you for pulling this together. What a f*cking disaster. I’d have to say this is worse than the USB progression! Ps HBO Max is giving all kinds of HDCP 2.3 errors on Apple TV 4K when trying to watch with AirPods. I hope they give up on HDCP since there are faulty chips in the wild.

[@MegaLotusEater]

You get like

[@MonkeyspankO]

smells like planned obsolescence to me

[@silvertube52]

HDCP is EVIL! If I want to use my non-HDCP 3D TV to watch both old 3D and stream Netflix I can't. Why? Because evil a-holes in corporations won't let me. No reason other than shellfish exploitation of consumers. There should be a way to stream 1080 HD of current Netflix or Diseny+ on that TV!! New standards don't have to brick old equipment or stop them from working with new content that they are capable to playing.

[@higginsbrandon9256]

Yea ppl in this world an there stupid ass technology changing fast ASF when your right nothing was Rong with TV's an all the wiring if a wire or something went bad or cut just find 1 somware didn't matter always worked now this hdpc bullshit is fuckin stupid 🤦

[@billyjones589]

Can't stand products with intel inside it. Intel is a trash company from the 90s thats into the business of bricking products now. Apple decided to use intel modem and now they have poor signal in iPhone.

[@MrHenharel]

It's not true you are misleading there are a lot of 8K titles on KZbin

[@Stevi1]

Profile picture looking real crispy 🤣

[@allanbesiime5856]

The piratebay is going to explode when they pull this crap

[@jrdpatil]

HACKERS somebody please hack HDCP 2.3.....please. HDCP 2.3 TO HDCP 2.1 CONVERTOR.

[@yugihoo]

Thank you