HDPlex 160W PSU - Pico PSU Killer?

[@stalefishtech1013]

Freaking love your channel man. Not nearly enough small form factor builders around. :) working on a project I could use this for:)

[@Tekeverything]

Nice, whats the project?

[@stalefishtech1013]

Tek Everything building a pc inside an original Xbox!

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Sniped again! Great work, Jay!

[@JK-0playa]

too slow bro, great videos gents... keep the content coming, I can't get enough!

[@MarkHuron]

Haha I'm eager to see your video on it too Josh. I immediately bought one myself when I saw it on HDPlex's website, and only $48! I expected them to charge more to be honest. I'd love to see what it's doing for S4 Mini builds.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

You won't regret it. I bought one for every system in my shop after the first one came.

[@Tekeverything]

Haha I wanted to wait, but I figured I needed to do this video before I made my PC upgrades vid.

[@notreal5311]

Still want to see your take on it, Josh!

[@blakon621]

Great stuff. You've really found a great niche with the tiny form factor content. Keep it up bud!

[@dimitriid]

Looks perfect for a G4560 + 1050ti combo that's actually the size of an Xbox one and close to the price of the PS4 Pro but beefier

[@Tekeverything]

It would definitely work very well in that set up.

[@user-xt1vs2oz3b]

I just watched a few of your videos on building a mITX system. I clicked your links to find some items on Amazon. I just made a $450 purchase so I hope you get credit for that using your affiliate link. Keep up the good work, Cheers :)

[@Tekeverything]

Thanks bro, hope your system turns out well.

[@Go.el_Hadam]

I'm glad that a high quality production channel exists for SFF custom parts/builds. thanks brah

[@Tekeverything]

Thanks man, appreciate it.

[@Go.el_Hadam]

You are welcomed

[@miketvpakol3131]

Looks really neat with the noctua heatsink

[@CknSalad]

G-Unique looks promising as it can deliver up 480w limited by only a modded 400w power brick. We will have to wait and see how reliable it is over time, but naturally high-wattage plug-and-play psus will be the future to me.

[@americanv8ss]

Can you please measure how much the power brick draws from the wall when using the hdplex and pico? (same system, same load)

[@Tekeverything]

It should be the same exact number. I suppose I could run the test though.

[@americanv8ss]

At 3:38 you say that the HDPlex gets warmer than the Pico PSU. That means that it has to be less efficient / draw more power.

[@notreal5311]

americanv8ss this is true, however 12V bricks tend to be less efficent then 19V laptop charger bricks, at least that is what Johnny Guru speculated here: www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=207

[@americanv8ss]

Not Real Sure, but that's not the point

[@notreal5311]

americanv8ss if the efficency loss from converting voltages cancels out the inefficieny of the bricks, what is :V I want to know the answer to your question also, however!

[@jonny727272]

I thought Josh would've beaten you on this one. I'm definitely liking this option over the HDPLEX 300 (and the pico option) and it seems like it should be enough for a GTX 1060 with an i5 6500.

[@Tekeverything]

Yes this is currently my favorite SFF PSU by far.

[@1bizkit88]

Keep up the good work Jay. Your videos are quality as usual..

[@dennisolof9994]

Great informative video. This could be of interest, after doing some research about SFF systems with Pico PSUs I realized that 12v AC DC power bricks with high amps are expensive but perhaps not the best quality if you intend to runt your system 24/7. The solution to the PSU problem is to instead buy a good quality, high amps transformers intended for LED or Fluorescent light fixtures. Easy to get hold of and big selection depending on what you need, modular, high output power, waterproof etc.

[@bunch8]

This is the first time I've heard the word "Lovechild" used when referring to a DC power suplly :) Also, the extra heat dissipated by this HDPlex power supply is probably due to it having to convert a higher 19V to 12V for the motherboard whereas the PicoPSU doesn't convert the voltage because the power brick for the PicoPSU is already at 12V.. I'm definitely going to pick one up. Thanks for the review. Good job!

[@Tekeverything]

Ha, I will try and incorporate "Lovechild" into as many videos as possible from now on.

[@georgedicu7397]

THANK YOU! i was just looking to understand these!

[@holgerwikingsen713]

This power unit just blew my mind. And when looking at the Amazon page I discovered the internal HDPLEX 160w AC adapter. These two seem to be perfect for my SFF project (by the way, I submitted it to your email a couple of days ago). Do you think that this combo can power up an i3 4330 + 750 Ti + 3 SSD/HDD?

[@Tekeverything]

Yep I got your email, very cool build man. I won't spoil it here. And yes, you should be ok with that combo. Although an external brick would give you a little more wiggle room.

[@eazyrat]

any updates on these type PSUs? Or external PSUs? I thought they would take off but doesn't look like it.

[@maddoxinc1642]

Any option with removal Molex and SATA plugs for those that have no need?

[@juanfrancostroppiana9234]

can I connect this to 220? im from argentina, wanted to know if this or any other HdPlex could suit my needs

[@AnKlMa]

Do you know of any DC PSU (12V) that can deliver 400-500 Watts? Would like to power my SFF PC in my motorhome directly from the 12 V power supply from the RV-Battery (avoiding the use of an inverter) Also, btw, you mentioned you're running a 1060 with the 160W HDPLex? -That's the graphics card I'm using but wouldnt it be underpowered under load?

[@virtueofsunlight1342]

them cables need some sexy sleeves. solid looking psu. it's all about the look.

[@Tekeverything]

Yea they do. I am probably going to use black vinyl dye on them.

[@HogShark]

I would really like to see you use either the Pico or HDPlex on a system running a high end gpu @ full load all connected to and powered by solar panels, deep cycle battery(or batteries), and a converter.

[@HogShark]

With undervolting and down-clocking if needed

[@diezavlog9864]

Hi. Im using i5 2500 Biostar h61 itx Id cooling halo dk 03 Gtx 660 with 6 pin power 4 gb ram 240gb ssd Can i use this pico, especially the chinese version not hdplex (the yellow 24 pin) With ac power 19.5v 12.3 A ? Not overclock for sure

[@rizwanm8926]

Hi. Great review. I was thinking of getting one of these to install in a m350 case. Do you think there'll be a problem with the fit since this is a beefier unit? Also, I've been looking for alternatives to the m350, something that filters the air the CPU drags in. Would you have any suggestions?

[@Tekeverything]

I'm not sure if it would fit, that is an extremely tight case. Usually cases that small don't have filters. If you wanted something in that ballpark, I would check out the Wesena ITX-5B, or the Realan W60.

[@dannyarroway4187]

Hey man, great job on these SFF videos, very informative! A small question... I recently picked up an old iMac G4 (dome: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G4) computer, removed all the inner components, and will be installing OS X 10.12 Sierra (hackintosh). I have a Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming-5 MB, a 256Gb Samsung 950 pro NVME SSD, 16Gb Corsair 2400 DDR4 memory, and another Samsung 2.5" SSD (No dedicated GPU). The HDPlex 160W + internal 160W DC ATX PSU (combo) needs to power these components + a new 17.3" LCD that is replacing the old one (converting the internal LVDS cable to HDMI). Will the HDPlex 160W be good enough to power these components? Thanks for your help!

[@Tekeverything]

You should be fine powering a Z170 System with that setup. I am not sure about the monitor though.

[@tgdhsuk3589]

what is that case?

[@JagoTFC]

I have a 160XT but the constant power figure is 8A only. I would like a constant 10A and above. It's for a NES PC project with gfx card. I know the old i3 4130T worked fine with the Nvidia x50Ti of the time.

[@hugooliveira7167]

is it safe to use picopsu, and which brand do you recommend?

[@stevey500]

I am curious about the Pico PSU; the Pico is not expelling any heat because it is only doing minor voltage adjustments for the 3.3 and 5v rail while 12v is passing straight through its solid-state switches into the system. It seems to me that a Pico PSU could be modified to push ANY wattage PCIE-powered video-card by attaching an extra high-amperage solid state relay/transistor that passed through extra 12v DC power to a video card; I think I'll experiment with this idea on my bench with an old 8800GT I have lying round.

[@Tekeverything]

Yes the added heat is due primarily to the additional conversion being done by the HDPlex. I have seen plenty of modded Pico 160xt's. They can handle loads over 200W as well, you need to upgrade the wires to a thicker gauge though. The effort it takes to mod the units, then find higher wattage bricks simply is not worth it to me when the HDPlex 160 can be had for less money when you add on the cost of the bricks.

[@crawfordsteclab3835]

Any recommendations? Searchin' for a ATX Flex PSU Flex ATX PSU : 81.5 mm (W) x 40.5 mm (H) x 150 mm (D) Support up to 180mm length

[@ElsaofGarendel]

HELP! DO YOU KNOW WHEN HDPLEX WILL RESTOCK THEIR 160W PSU? Or another alternative that will work with the S4 mini case?

[@Tekeverything]

I do not, try emailing them directly and asking. They are typically very responsive.

[@sharles]

Hey Jase, is this still available? I'm making an sff PC and having trouble finding a good Pico PSU. Already have a power brick

[@Tekeverything]

Yep they have a new model on the HDPlex website.

[@JeppeEbbesen]

Awesome video and PSU! I recently made my own build using the awesome S4 Mini and a HDPlex 300w, and I'm finding it difficult using the default Sata power cables that came with the PSU - I can't seem to close my case. And I noticed you've fixed that! How did you do it? Some kind of extender in between?

[@JeppeEbbesen]

Wait... Is that a molex to 2x male Sata power?

[@Tekeverything]

I tucked all the cables underneath the 24 pin cable. Without shortening the 24 pin it is really tight, but they will fit.... and yes I used a Molex to 2 SATA adapter. it was cleaner than using the 4 attached SATA cables.

[@JeppeEbbesen]

Yup it's a really tight fit. I'm considering trying to make a custom 24 pin cable - there's some good guides here on YT. That might be a project for another time :). Awesome - already ordered a molex to 2 sata adapter, and it should be coming soon. Thanks for the help! I could not even make the 4 attached Sata cables work because they go in at a 90 degree angle, and therefore would stick out the side.

[@kastiel4923]

Is this a old hdplex 160? there is a amber looking box while in the hdplex site there is no amber looking box..looking to purchase one but in doubt of its width..thanks..

[@Tekeverything]

Yes, this is the older version. I updated the article with images of the newer model. It is better laid out, and has all black cables.

[@kastiel4923]

Thanks jay..

[@Jonathanjwf]

Hey Jase, Great video as always I was wonder whether a 330w brick could be used with this?

[@Tekeverything]

Yes it can, I would just be careful about how much load you try and pull through this guy. You could see system instability with higher end components. It is really designed for systems up to 200W.. but yes you can totally use the 330W brick.

[@DesChew]

At 1:15, could you please explain how to connect the cable with the hook at its end ? What are they for?

[@JoNaXKaY]

nice content on your channel bro. new sub here. im a big fan of sff. i wanna know if this is really enough for an i5, and a 1060 plus 1 ssd. im from argentina so im gonna import it if its enough. ty in advance ps: is necessary an external power brick?

[@Tekeverything]

Yes, you should be fine. I am running a 1060 + i7-700 and 3 SSD's off of this and a 230W power brick.

[@nikolaskurnia7404]

Hi there, I'm interested to build a SFF pc, I have a question though. Does this PSU take more than 12 v as input? e.g. the 19.5 v HP power brick you linked?

[@Tekeverything]

Yes it can take 16-24V

[@sceancrottynesi1638]

I have a question... didn't really understood how these little psu work. Till now I know that, in order to work, you need a power brick and the Pico. But I saw, at HDPlex website, that the wattages in combo between Pico and powerbrick are not equal. The first combo: 80W AC/DC + 160W DC/ATX, the second combo: 160W AC/DC + 160W DC/ATX how that's affects "performance"? My other question is: I've already a laptop brick rated at 90W, if I match it with the 160W pico, how much juice can i extract from it? Hope that all this is understandable :)

[@Tekeverything]

The wattage do not need to match up. Your overall system will be limited to the wattage of the power brick you are using. You could use your 90W brick as long as it is compatible with the HDPlex. You would be limited to a 90W system.

[@sceancrottynesi1638]

Thanks J! wrote them an email and discovered that my powerbrick is not compatible. Hope to be featured in one of your next SFF showdown when i'll end my sys... Cheers!

[@vincentdoubt]

can this PSU power up the Ryzen 7 2700x + RX580 , 4GB DDR4 x 2 ? i also have i7 3770 + GTX660ti , GTX670 , 4GB DDR3 x 4 , please help to reply . i really not good in calculate Power requirement. what type the DC input adapter need to power up this small form factor unit ?

[@EvilJonas]

I don't understand how this 160W PSU is supposedly capable of supplying a typical i7 with mid-range GPU. When I simulate my current system ( outervision.com/b/YGtvt2 ) it requires at least 270W, while it isn't particularly demanding (GTX960 and cheap i5). Should I be able to use this HD Plex 160W? With additional SATA drives it estimates 290W... almost double the 160W. Could you please advise?

[@cz5802]

I'm running a 6700k and a gtx1060, are the power bricks that you have listed in the description good enought for my system? Thanks

[@Tekeverything]

They should be, depending on how high you push your overclock.

[@cz5802]

I don't plan on overclocking, but thanks, I will buy the hp powerbrick.

[@coginthewheel]

Hey will the HP 230W brick be sufficient for i5 (65W) + Zotac GTX 1060 mini? PcPartpicker shows total requirement for the system as 240W, so I'm not sure.

[@Tekeverything]

Yes you will be fine. I am using a Ryzen 1700 & Zotac 1060 Mini with that setup.

[@cz5802]

Hi, I purchased the hdplex 160 with the hp 230w power brick, currently running it with an underclocked and undervolted 6700k at 3.4ghz and an evga 1060 sc. When I run uniengine valley benchmark, my computer sometimes turns off and resets, does this happen with you as well?

[@Tekeverything]

No, that has never happened to me. I have run a 7700 with a Zotac 1060 min, and EVGA 1060 mini SC. Both overclocked to there limits. I would guess that it is most likely a power brick issue, as the HDPlex is capable of handling more load than your setup would produce. What case are you using?

[@cz5802]

I'm actually using the rvz02, I'm going to reinstall the hdplex 160 again and run some more test. Maybe its my motherboard?

[@cz5802]

Tek Everything yea i just reran it, just restarted the pc like last time. Im confused, we have the same power brick?

[@cz5802]

Nvm, I undervolted my 6700k to 1.08v at 3.6 ghz, and everything works smoothly now.

[@GerbilNoises]

Man you really do like these pico power supply ideas don't you? (ppssstt you should totally give me one of your computers) hehe

[@davidmalkowski7850]

Any idea on whether this could support an A10-7890K and an R7 250 + 2 2.5" drives, one SSD and one HDD? The PicoPSU-160XT uses overcurrent protection at max load of the two.

[@Tekeverything]

Yes, that is well under the rated 200W. You should have no issues at all.

[@davidmalkowski7850]

Tek Everything That's my problem... at 196W from the wall, the PSU chikes during the Sky Diver benchmark and restarts. When I use my 300W Flex-ATX PSU, it's A-OK. All chips are at stock clocks except for RAM, which I have at 2133MHz. Is this normal for the parts?

[@Tekeverything]

196W seems like a large spike for that system, but it is certainly possible. Admittedly I am not that familiar with AMD CPU load wattages. Are you using the 192W power brick with your Pico?

[@davidmalkowski7850]

Tek Everything Yup, the 160-XT + the 192W adapter combo Minibox sells. I built another system with an i3-6100 and a 1050 Ti; 30% better CPU/GPU performance using only 120W. I did really like my 7890K, though, and I don't wanna leave it in the closet. I packed everything into an ANTEC ISK 310-150, replacing the PSU with a 300W Flex ATX one, and fitting everything in, and I do like it a lot, but it's not as small as it could be.

[@rizwan1983]

Would this fit inside a m350 case? Or would this be a bit too large?

[@CarpeDiem431]

I am thinking about doing that right now. Did you ever give it a try?

[@eug3nius]

I'm going to buy one, thanks Jay!

[@Nscwalk]

Do you think the i7 3770 & GTX 1060 with this will work? The 3770 has 77 watt TDP

[@Tekeverything]

Yes, it will work just fine.

[@Nscwalk]

TY for the reply! Excited to build my new mini itx system, love your channel very inspirational xD

[@icristian6707]

What power brick you recommend for amd apu a10-7850k (no gpu) ? 95w/160w/240w/330w ?

[@Tekeverything]

You could probably get away with an 80W brick, but I would go with a 120W just to be safe.

[@icristian6707]

Thanks for your answer!

[@NoName-zi9qs]

Nice PC build!

[@miken4700]

Would this be sufficient for a i7-7700, gtx 1060, 16gb memory, 2 ssds?

[@Tekeverything]

Absolutely, I am running a very similar setup. Same GPU and CPU.

[@miken4700]

Thanks! Recently found your channel and great job on the videos!

[@supafly322]

Gave you the like/sub and here is the comment. "Very Clean editing!"

[@Tekeverything]

Thanks! Welcome aboard.

[@DrigitaRygen]

Can this HD PLEX 160W alone power a GTX 1070 mini? I mean just to power the GPU alone, without powering any other things like the motherboard.

[@Tekeverything]

Definitely.

[@lionsxi3052]

Do you know where can I get extra wires for HDPLEX 160w.

[@Tekeverything]

Not sure, I would contact them directly. I'm sure they could provide you with extra wires. Are you looking for extension cables or a second set of the standard wiring

[@gavindodd133]

Would this fit within a Logic Supply MC600 build?

[@Tekeverything]

I just measured the 160. It sits 59mm when installed in the motherboard. The MC600 is 64mm, so it should fit.

[@samueladitya1729]

can it supplied by battery?

[@mattg8888]

Sooooooooo would you be comfortable using a Ryzen 1600 with a GTX 1060 on the 160W?

[@iaial0]

I wouldn't be TBH

[@iaial0]

There's a 300W model tho

[@joeramos5995]

Hey Jay and others, any one know if this paired with the hp 230 watt brick is good enough for 16gb ram, 4690k(not oc) and 970mini?

[@Tekeverything]

The combo may be able to handle that system under certain games/loads... but I wouldn't recommend it. You could potentially see peaks well over the rated specs for both parts. An HDPlex 300 + Dell 330W brick would be a much safer choice.

[@joeramos5995]

Thank you for the feedback and the informative vids!

[@PlayJewel]

This is rated at 160w, so what does this 160 must include? The motherboard+cpu+ssd+ram? Also the graphics card?

[@Tekeverything]

I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.

[@PlayJewel]

Tek Everything i got my answer from searching thanks.

[@PlayJewel]

Tek Everything Will the hdplex 400w work with Asus Prime z370a motherboard ? I see that hdplex has input voltage 16v-24vdc and this is my motherboard’s requirements: i63.tinypic.com/2zzssuv.jpg i cant understand it myself

[@PlayJewel]

Also my power brick’s output is 12v

[@metabeing]

Will it fit on the streacom f1c WS case ?

[@Tekeverything]

Yes it will. It sits at 59mm high when measured from the bottom of the inside of a case. So it will fit in virtually any system that supports standard CPU coolers.

[@metabeing]

Tek Everything which one is better picopsu 160 or HDPlex 160 ?

[@Tekeverything]

If I had to recommend one it would be the HDPlex 160 all day. Unless you are running like a HTPC with an i3 in it or something, there is really no good reason to go for the Pico anymore.

[@metabeing]

Tek Everything My config is i5 7600 , H270N Wifi , 8GB Ram , SSD, 1 2.5" HDD, Streacom f1c WS.. cus S4mini is sold out. So which is best for this pico or hdplex

[@slashingbison2503]

Great video 👍

[@gipa611]

The only question is if i put it in a mini itx motherboard will it suport a 1050ti powerd through the pci slot i thing yes but i am not 100% sure

[@Tekeverything]

Yep... kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJPOmplsnpetirM&lc=Ugzhgi03B1p-MkIRoj14AaABAg

[@LP_APUgamer]

Can it run with a i5 7600K + GTX 1060? thank you

[@onknight]

They are out of Stock Right now on Amazon.com and don't have it on Amazon.ca

[@mattg8888]

So a ryzen 1600 and a GTX 1060 could work on that?

[@alexanderarias8519]

Could this accommodate a i3 7300 and an rx 460 safely?

[@Tekeverything]

Yes, absolutely.

[@alexanderarias8519]

Ayeeee thanks for the reply much appreciated!

[@JoeyGlover]

YES!!!! A BLACK PCB PICO!!! I'm in love.. J.

[@Tekeverything]

Yes me too. I love this thing.

[@pnp072000]

Could you add a 330 watt AC adapter to this? It looks beefy as hell.

[@Tekeverything]

You can definitely use that brick. Although I wouldn't advise running super beefy components through the 160. Go with the HDPlex 300 for that.

[@pnp072000]

Tek Everything Thanks for the help. I finally plan to build my first PC. I'm planning to use the mx500 mini itx case with any x470 motherboard to use the AMD 2400g APU.

[@DBowesMusic]

doesn't look like this particular unit exists anymore. new version doesn't have the screw terminals.

[@Tekeverything]

Correct, they have updated the unit since this video was released.

[@carlosraul6578]

Is enought for an i7 7700 , 16 gb RAM ddr4(2 x 8 gb), ssd m.2 and the motherboard.

[@Tekeverything]

Yes, check my latest build. I am running a 7700, 32gb of ram, 1060, and 3 ssd's

[@carlosraul6578]

Thanks. you shoul try this case EMC-810B cause there isn't information about it on KZbin and looks pretty cool

[@WemersonMorais]

This suport i7 3370 and gtx1050, 2x DDR3, 1 SSD, and 1 HD 5400rpm?

[@thegteam5091]

Yes just make sure you power consumption is less than you power brick you can check your power consumption on psu calculators

[@honeybadger6127]

looks like these are sold out... I wonder why?

[@Jester12036]

Could i hook this up to a car battery???

[@Tekeverything]

I have no idea

[@sairamganesh88]

seriously man ? i7 7700 + gtx 1060 on such a tiny psu ? did you happen to undervolt your cpu or gpu ?

[@Tekeverything]

Undervolt, nope. I even OC'd the 1060.

[@sairamganesh88]

Tek Everything thanks for the speedy reply. i have ordered the hdplex 160 to power my i3 7100 + gtx 1060. everything will be powered by dell 240w adapter

[@simontay4851]

How can you run loads over 200W with a 160W PSU? That doesn't make sense.

[@Tekeverything]

The HDPlex 160 is rated for 160-200W. With proper airflow it can handle around 220W

[@Kaodusanya]

a graphics card can run off that?

[@Tekeverything]

Yes, if you select the proper components.

[@michaelcerda5514]

Is anyone selling their cases? I will buy them

[@MATTE.U.K]

Make one with AC input then well talk

[@mrbeetham]

I got one of these and it burnt out within 5 seconds. The company has not responded to any correspondence. Do not recommend.

[@TheHazeShadow]

pico PSU at 500w?:)

[@pnp072000]

TheHazeShadow Try to find a 500 watt AC adapter.

[@notreal5311]

TheHazeShadow 400W units available.... smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/g-unique-plug-play-units-pre-order.1404/

[@LP_APUgamer]

I wish it was pico but they have this one 400w and 500w peak www.hd-plex.com/HDPLEX-400W-Hi-Fi-DC-ATX-Power-Supply-16V-24V-Wide-Range-Voltage-Input.html

[@tomaspostorivo]

Shit, it is so small. Great!

[@cameronbird118]

wait do You need an external power brick useless I hate power bricks they look awful and take up space in annoying places.

[@Tekeverything]

To each there own. If you want to use extremely compact cases you need alternative power solutions. Removing the bulk of a standard PSU allows for significantly more flexible builds.

[@ps3customgamer]

Fail system in 2017 we’re running more power now usually too much for itx

[@DoomWalker42]

HI TechEverything: I need a pico power supply for an Intel Pentium G3420, 8gb of DDR3 ram, a GTX 1050 and a 525gb Crucial SSD. What Pico Power Supply combo should I get? Very confused on all the options. Cooler Master claims I need 161 watts. Is 180 watt psu safe? Cheers!!!

[@Tekeverything]

I would recommend the HDPlex 160 and the HP 230W power brick. It is a more versatile and cheaper option.

[@DoomWalker42]

Tek Everything I got a 195w psu brick from Amazon and a 200 watt pico psu from eBay will that work for an i3 and a gtx 1050ti?