LG 65-inch B7 Review: Firmware Update Improves Picture Quality

We installed the latest firmware update (as of 31 Oct 2017) of 04.70.10 on our 65-inch LG B7 review sample, & found that it improved picture quality in several aspects, as well as added Dolby Atmos decoding over HDMI.
Our review unit was the LG OLED65B7V which is the UK version with a crescent metallic silver stand.
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[@at3812]

I love how Vincent whispers when comparing the firmwares in the dark. HDTV UHD ASMR!

[@ralugosi]

Its like when you go visit someone who just had a baby. Those OLEDs are like babies!😄

[@pettson3816]

Haha, maybe it was night when that was recorded and he didn't want to disturb the neighbors.

[@catsbyondrepair]

ralugosi except oled is a dead technology like plasma before it oled has so much lag it's useless for gaming tried one returned it.

[@pettson3816]

21ms input lag isn't that bad. The LG 7-series is actually one of the faster TV's out there.

[@file1man]

YUKI JINJUJI gaming sb done on pc w 144 kHz monitor w 1080 ti gpu, unless u play for visuals in the world's created on screen.

[@TetraVaalBioSecurity]

I think LG needs to be given a lot of credit for the year-to-year improvements they make to their OLED panels. I’m holding out hope that Sony will introduce a second generation OLED in 2018, that marks a pretty significant improvement over the A1. But if they don’t, I’m probably going to get an LG B7. Steve Yedlin, the DOP for ‘The Last Jedi’, is currently using a 55-inch B7 to double as his reference monitor. LG has come such a long way since investing R&D into OLED technology.

[@elmardietl1249]

I wish somebody would offer such a “sell + calibration service” here in Singapore, too... As always, fantastic Video Vincent!

[@Dave30867]

Mr Vincent you do a good review in all your reviews and testings , I always look forward to your videos . Also Thumbs UP for your sponsors excellent .

[@RealSkyDiver2]

Correction the B7A DOES have internal atmos encoding since all the TVs have the same panels and chipsets, only the speakers don't have atoms output. You'll still get atoms if you connect it to a receiver with atoms support like I do.

[@dzemoski45]

Excellent review Vincent, thank you.

[@pettson3816]

Such a likable and competent guy this Vincent! Hope you will be testing TVs for a long looong time! One of my favorite channels on KZbin! Hopefully we will start seeing HDMI 2.1 next year!

[@Grognon]

If I was in the UK, I would 100% come to you for calibration! I'm in Canada so for sure ; big thumbs up, and subscription to channel. And also ; you convinced me to go OLED with your videos now that the 2017 LG b7 models are down to clearance price under 3000$ (1600-1700 UK pounds) for the 65 inch.

[@fuzzyhr]

Another great video Vincent.

[@R2D2trashcan]

This guy actually knows what hes talking about and does great videos well played

[@L0rd_0f_War]

Thanks Vincent for the new firmware review. Really appreciate your taking the time to do an in-depth analysis. I hope LG lets you keep the set(s) for future videos/comparisons. I didn't even know that the KZbin HDR implementation was rather off. I just thought its to do with the youtube compression and such.

[@maurob5519]

I bought this tv 55 inch is spectacular 5 stars, great LG. Thank you for the video

[@Seade]

Thanks to your reviews, Vincent, I am watching this review on an LG 65B7V! Keep up the great work!

[@rsjet]

Vincent, you are so informative and have great content! Just one constructive criticism... I wish you would improve your presentation by not repeating redundant info. For example, you don't need to keep repeating the full firmware number or model number for a TV after mentioning it once at the beginning of the video. You can just refer to them as the "new" or "old" firmware, or the "LG" vs "Sony" tv, or "the C7" etc. This would help to shorten your needlessly long videos. You can get across the same information in half the time. Thank you for listening and keep making great content!

[@karl343]

rsjet The model number is important, for instance the B7 has worse image retention than the C7.

[@myronhayes187]

Thank you for all this info. It helps me here in United States to make inform buying decision. Your amazing and very professional. Be Blessed

[@djrussell1287]

Excellent review as usual Vincent. I just wish you wouldn't say the screen size, year and model numbers so many times. LG B7 would suffice. Keep up the great work.

[@dudeasp1]

I love your reviews. I ended up buying the LG OLED B7, great deal.

[@ralugosi]

B6 had an update recently too that had me adjusting my brightness levels.

[@NexGenTek]

ralugosi yea I thought so too what happened

[@ralugosi]

My brightness was at 53 no problems. After the update there is a slight glow at 53 and I had to bring it down to 50 to regain true black. Nothing major but after watching this vid I wish a professional like Vincent would explain any technical improvements in the update. As you can see in this B7 video only a trained professional eye can understand all the technical improvements in an update. But the B6 is the 2016 model so it probably wont happen.

[@apollian]

I'm going to see if the C6 has an upgrade too.

[@ulisescastrom]

ralugosi what’s the firmware number that caused that? Does it affect HDR or SDR mode? I have a b6 too but from Mexico

[@ralugosi]

Ulises Castro 05.30.03

[@dayoandrew4046]

Vincent you are one of the best out their when its come to all these olde tv

[@kamrankhan-be3cz]

Dear Vincent I truly respect you for your honest reviews...please kindly let us know about image retension on LG OLED panels

[@fabiospairani767]

Are these improvements enough to be on par with Sony and Panasonic in the same areas?

One thing is missing: How does the Technicolor Expert mode stack up versus the ISF modes? Thanks for thoroughly testing picture processing improvements in the new firmware update; most would have missed what you found out!

[@hdtvtest]

Technicolor Expert mode is exactly the same as the ISF modes - if you match the settings, the picture will look identical.

Thanks for your response. Of course, this preset only distinguishes itself by making some different choices in picture settings. I find those perceptually more pleasing when compared to ISF Bright Room. Mainly I tend to look at how much contrast there is between actors' faces and the background and how pronounces facial detail in shadows is. Yes, I know this is quite idiosyncratic.

[@matt-f1c]

Thank you Vincent

[@TheSuper10dulkar]

Any improvement in image retention clean up via firmware update?

[@riekopo7638]

Incorrect information. The B7A is perfectly capable of Dolby Atmos passthrough. It just doesn't have it for the display's internal speakers. Which is mostly pointless anyway.

[@yasserq78]

Excellent break down and very informative!

[@gabetrinidad1016]

I might have to buy my next display pre-calibrated by you!

[@SolidWorksCAD3D]

Great work LG!

[@user-vn6ol1jn9l]

Great review as usual.

[@crickcrot]

I take it this latest firmware update applies to the LG B7 55 inch and C7 OLED as well.

[@hdtvtest]

Yes.

[@marckeg3340]

Hello Vincent Teoh, please activate the translation of the video for the benefit of users from other continents. Very good firmware evaluation.

[@Zapharus]

RIP David's phone @2:55

[@Jeff-cv4qn]

LG C7 is now on my wish list!

[@moorgogel]

wow, you are great Vincent. Thank you for these Infos.

[@patrickgammeltoft2018]

Best review on KZbin!

[@1tarras]

thanks for the video Vincent.go on making videos.

[@talldrksatown]

love your stuff man! keep it up!

[@kaltblut]

i hope they update the fw of the 2016 oleds as well. it would be a shame to abandon those high end tvs

[@attilaszabo7727]

Very informative video and channel, thank you! I would love it if you could make a video addressing burn in issues with these screens and maybe giving some advice on how to avoid it happening with everyday use. I'm planning on getting a B7 soon, but am really scared of the possibility of burn in.

[@aus1259]

Cheers, Excellent review appreciate your technical insight.

[@scottscottsdale7868]

Great presentation. I wonder if it possible for your to sell customers in the US a listing of settings to maximize the picture quality?

[@donvitto3432]

Very informative video Vincent, thank you.

[@TheDanielShepherd]

I love my 65" C7, my only real complaint is that image burn is really bad if you have static text on the screen. It's fine for movies and TV and motion picture, but in apps or gaming if there is solid white text on the screen and then you have grey backgrounds, it stays for minutes.

[@BSLNewsDaily]

Once more no subtitles/captions in this update coverage. Please remember there are many of us who could not access solely on spoken language. At least turn auto generate captions open to allow us to follow the coverage.

[@yusufnuur6909]

Clark Denmark I agree! I need English subtitles becuase I am deaf that need subtitles for accessible! @HDTVtest please!?

[@roberthayden8722]

in this video I’m going to review the 65” B7 OLED tv and go through the improvements in picture quality brought about by the latest firmware update Hello I’m Vincent Theo and I’m a TV reviewer and professional calibrator. and in this video I have 2 LG 65” B7 televisions in this room. It’s probably the last time I’ll be able to spend the time with 2 2017 LG OLEDs of the same screen size because LG is seeing I’m having too much fun with these samples and they’re collecting it this week! 00:40But while I have these two review units here, I am going to try to demonstrate the improvement in quality the latest firmware update has brought to the party I’ve updated the screen on your left there to the 04.70.10 which is the most recent that is available in the UK. And this screen here is the same 65” B7 on the old firmware which doesn’t have the technicolor picture mode and I’ll compare side by side. 1:30 Just one quick note for any viewers form the US. These are the LG B7V which are available in Europe. In the states, you have the B7A and B7P and the P has a different stand but also you get the B7A cut down version. That doesn’t have the internal Dolby Atmos decoding. Let’s get back to looking at what the firmware brings to the system on this UK model 65B7V I’d like to thanks Crampton and Moore Leeds for sponsoring this video. They’re a Yorkshire based retailer who do internet based mail order. If you’ve watched this video, please call them and ask for David Corner (phone number on screen) he will give you his best price. It’s not just the price though Iv’e worked with them for a number of years and they help with our annual shoot out and help me out with samples I can’t get from manufacturers and they will also pre-check the screen for you in case you’re worried about not getting a perfect panel and they’ll even run it in for a couple of weeks. For a fee, I’ll even go into the store and calibrate the screen for you. 4:27 So let’s go into the analysis of what the latest firmware update has improved. 4:50 I’ll just go and show you the firmware version. You can see it’s 04.70.10 and on the screen on the right, it’s still on an older verison. [editor’s note: At 5:21 here, I don’t want to speculate about what Vincent is holding in front of the screen on the right] 5:35 you can see the screen on the right doesn’t ahve the technicolor mode, but the screen on the left here has this Technicolor Expert Picture mode. One quetsion people will ask is “what does that picture mode do?” - from my testing, it’s the same as teh ISF expert modes. Seems to be using the same service menu settings so you should get an identical image for each of those modes, if you use the same user settings. You can see if I toggle back and forth between the modes, this Oppo background image doesn’t change at all. While if I use other picture modes, it changes dramatically. 7:14 Now when I did my LG C7 vs Sony A1 comparison video I showed a frame in the revenant where Leo’s face was showing more posterisation on the LG OLED. Their engineers seem to have taken this on board and improved it in the latest firmware. They optimised the near-black gamma so when the camera faded to black it becomes darker quicker so the coarser degradation doesn’t show as much as before. You can see on the screen on the left here, the dip from dark grey to black seems much smoother and is less prone to those posterisation artefacts. 8:17 The optimisation of the near-black gamma tracking also seemed to improve the near-black handling of noise management in dark scenes that are highly compressed. In this clip of Father Brown, the macro blocking artefacts or noisiness is less on the screen on the left. I think because the gamma tracking is more linear, the difference between individual dark grey and black blocks is less stark and noticeable so the image looks cleaner and any blocks are smaller and less pronounced. 10:00 anther improvement I can see is in the motion handling. This is a loop from a chapter in the Martian where the camera pans down to Earth. You can see less judder and it retains more detail in the atmosphere and the visible continent on earth. The TrueMotion processing settings are turned off on both screens. It looks like the LG engineers have improved the handling at least of 24fps material, which will help with these slow panning shots. 11:12 Now when I reviewed the C7/B7 many moons ago I pointed out an artefact during fast sports like football where the ball would tear from time to time because of flawed de-interlacing. The latest firmware update has definitely fixed that, I’ve watched lots of football and I haven’t seen that happen on the latest firmware so well done to LG for fixing that. 12:00 As you can see the latest firmware has brought about a number of improvements on these OLEDs. Besides picture quality the firmware update has also introduced Dolby Atmos decoding from an HDMI source. Previously the TVs have internal Dolby Atmos decoding but only for streaming sources. You can now do the same with HDMI sources which is another thing I have to congratulate the LG engineers for. I’ve reviewed a number of OLEDs from different brands over the last few years and I think the strength of LG is their R&D and marketing team are listening to constructive feedback and are willing to update their firmware in response to reviews and they have been much more nimble than other companies who seem to be struggling to bring new features. LG seem to be constantly acting on this feedback to improve picture and add other features. This is not to say that these TVs are flawless, there are still issues such as the broken KZbin HDR from the internal app. If you play one, even on the latest firmware, if you compare that side-by-side the HDR will have elevated blacks and look quite washed out, probably due to the wrong transfer function being applied. Hopefully LG can work on that. Also some owners have complained about the HDR game mode being too dim. Let me explain that, some HDR games have values going up to 10,000 nits. The LG models always want to maintain the specular highlight detail. As I explained in my tone mapping vide, you always have to choose between brightness and detail when trying to tone map a source video with much higher peak brightness than the display. In the case of these OLEDs, they are trying to maintain so much detail they lose some brightness in the average picture level (APL) - 16:08 you can try to engage dynamic contrast to try to restore some brightness this but I have to warn you that in the dynamic contrast in cinema mode it is linked to activeHDR (LG’s dynamic tone mapping) the but in game mode it is just pure dynamic contrast stretching. it oesn’t try to simulate dynamic metadata. So in game mode it doesn’t engage dynamic tone mapping, but with games, input lag and picture quality are at odds with each other - the desire to reduce latency by cutting down on video or colour processing then the picture quality will suffer so you always have to make a choice between responsiveness or quality. The LG does have a very low input lag of 21ms measured either in SDR or HDR mode. Some people are complaining that color gamut is fixed to Wide in sdr game mode. My response to that is you can tone it down via calibration but you always have to choose between picture quality and responsiveness anyway. While we are on the topic of activeHDR, this is a feature unique to the 2107 LG OLEDs. Maybe others will adopt it in 2018, we’ll see at CES. I like this because it does a good job of maintaining specular highlight detail and maximising peak brightness but it’s not without it’s shortcomings. When I watched dark films, it can elevate blacks that introduces some blocking and artefacts that you wouldn’t see on a display without dynamic tone mapping. also when there’s fast ramping from dark to bright, the dynamic tone mapping tech can incur some luminance fluctuations here and there as they try to analyse that signal and recover any lost specular highlight detail. I think they’ve done a good job in giving more choice about the HDR presentation from sources that are mastered to a higher peak brightness than the display. 19:30 Over the last couple of months, the LG OLEDs, especially the B7 and C7 have been perceived as the best value OLED displays but it’s often thought that they are sub-par in terms of outright picture quality vs panasonic or sony. I think that I and hdtvtest have been guilty of this narrative too but I think it’s less true now - although the sony has better near-black handling and better gradation, and the Panasonic shave better outright colour accuracy especially after calibration but actually these LGs have their own strengths that put the on a level playing field - low input lag, least aggressive automative brightness limiter, so you get higher peak brightness, and their dynamic tone mapping I think these LG 2017 OELDs can stand toe-toe with the others, even before you consider these improvements in the latest firmware. LG keeps giving better value with each passing month. Don’t forget these basic, supposed entry level, sets actually have identical picture quality to their top-end G7 and W7 wallpaper TVs. Even these B7 and C7 have the ambient light rejection filter to improve blacks unlike the Panasonic 952 or Philips 9002 that exhibit some magenta tint from ambient light falling on the screen.22:18 Don’t get me wrong, even thought price is very tempting. if you take prove out of the equation I’d say that these 2017 LG OLEDs are good enough to go toe-toe with what Panasonic and Sony have to offer, Please subscribe and if you’d like your TV calibrated anywhere in the UK, please submit a request via our web form.

[@BSLNewsDaily]

Gosh, very generous of you Robert. Much appreciated for your time here to translate. Let's hope HDTVTest will subtitle all of their reviews/coverages from now on. Thanks again, Robert.

[@rsjet]

wow. this guy is a hero. and I dont even use subtitles!

[@rubiipied4957]

Very thank's Clark Denmark. I also need the subtitles. I like vincent reviews and I learn a lot. I greet everyone. :)

[@emmanuelscemama5947]

Vincent you are the best

[@davybloggs1564]

Hi Vincent, love the vid, but my 65B7 just got the 04.70.06, and the TV is reporting no updates from that. Any idea as to the reason for that? I live in the UK (South). Also, after the 'update' I actually thought, and still believe, the PQ is WORSE than before! One very important thing we need to know - if we've just spent hundreds of pounds on a TV calibration, and the PQ changes due to firmware updates, does this mean we've wasted our money, and now need ANOTHER cal???

[@walleye187]

Excellent review as always! Can u do a video about lip sync issues ppl are experiencing with set top boxes? It's driving me insane !

[@kaltblut]

before the latest changes to game hdr, it was fine. so the argument that this had to be done can't be quite right. and what does a hdr game mode do good if you cannot use it, because you can't see anymore?

[@bench130]

Just cancel that last question Vincent, I have managed to send you a private message requesting a quote via the form that you have supplied in the description. Thanks

[@ROllieHorne]

So which would you recommend I get here in the US? The B7 p or B7 b? I am getting one for my Xbox one x hopefully this blackfriday! Also keep up the incredible content! I absolutely love your channel how unbiased and factual it is.

[@jakekeele]

I’m looking to purchase an OLED TV this holiday season. After taking in all this information I’m beginning to think purchasing this TV would be a mistake if I intend on connecting it to my PS4 Pro for 4K gaming. This is interesting to me because this is the number one rated TV on the web for gaming and most reviews fail to mention the detail about brightness. Should I go with a Sony OLED display then if I prefer HDR gaming brightness over lag time? And as always, thank you Vincent for your in-depth reviews.

[@BFArch0n]

Love my C7, and the firmware updates are great! Its like the Tesla of TVs. Lol

[@Fman990]

Wow, what a great idea. I wish I had a retailer here in the Southeastern United States that offered the same service. I’m actually trying to figure out who I should hire for OLED calibration near me. I live about an hour and a half from Atlanta, GA, if you have any recommendations for calibrators near me, please let me know. I plan on buying at least one 65 inch LG OLED B7 hopefully this month. Considering also purchasing the 77inch Signature OLED, however I may hold off to see if any manufacturers release a bigger option this next year.

[@Daveqt2]

Hi Vincent! You talk about tweeking the game mode to cope with color gammut locked to « wide ». Could you PLEASE share those tweaks in a video, maybe a special gaming video for LG Oled?? Thath would be amazing thx!

[@DeeBatch]

Excellent video as usual.. I have 2 B7 P models.. One on new Fw one on the FW with working youtube HDR.. I Switch to PC mode to avoid image degradation and retain low input lag of game mode. Can you measure input lag in PC mode before you send sets back? Did not know that Dynamic mode works different in game mode thanks.

[@alexbarbelmania100]

I have the LG 65B7 and can say that the new firmware (04.70.10) does not allow for playing of Lossless Dolby Atmos (Dolby Atmos True HD) over HDMI. It only allows for playing of Lossy Dolby Atmos . It would be great if this could be addressed. Any chance you could communicate this point to LG Vincent ?

[@emilianoescobar1015]

Dear Vincent, first of all, congratulations on Your channel. You're great reviewer. I have a question: I got the B7 4.70.06 that's supposedly get TruHD and ATMOS through ARC. I dont get TruHD trhough ARC. Did I understood wrong that 4.70.06 had this enabled? I've got ATMOS through streaming services in the 3.60, so, no new to 4.70.06. Thanks in advance

[@bench130]

Thanks for the video Vincent, very informative and it’s interesting to hear of your professional calibration service here in the UK. Just a question though in regards to your services. Do you travel for personal calibration services and how would that be arranged? In my case I live in Scotland, just near to Edinburgh, and am possibly about to buy a 4K OLED tv. If I got one I would be keen to try and get it set up properly and like the idea of your service but of course need to understand likely cost and whether this would be possible for you. Thank you.

[@Leebabins]

You should make a separate channel for asmr videos. You have a relaxing voice when soft talking.

[@PremierLeagueProductions]

Leebabins like Mark Cerny.

[@user-uk5tp8qg5q]

Thanks for review. What would you recommend to choose Sony KD-65ZD9 or LG OLED C7, B7, E7? I read and reviewed many reviews, but I can not decide. I will be very grateful for the advice.

[@file1man]

Is The yellow tint problem on the LG b7a due to the lottery luck of getting a good monitor or Something that can be greatly reduced by using proper calibration settings

[@naj_]

Thank you for the review but you also forgot to mention that this new firmware update ruined tons of other things too, especially with the Xbox One S and it is not a microsoft bug, after the LG 4.70.06 and the 4.70.10 update i have been also having problems with everything connected straight to the TV via hdmi and netflix internal app. 1- With my cable box, i am having lip sync issues that i NEVER had before and strange audio drop outs when the channel is HD and has dolby sound output. When i switch to a channel without dolby then the sound is pretty loud again but any channel with dolby sound then you can barely hear anything at 90 level. Never had those issues prior to the update, on the 3.60.09. 2- issues with the xbox one S that eveyone one been having, (check AVforum and AVSforum) you can't watch regular bluray nor 4k bluray anymore EVEN IF YOU PUT THE SOUND TO STEREO UNCOMPRESSED, Dolby or DTS. Xbox one s is totally useless with the TV after the update (xbox connected straight to TV). Things used to work BEFORE and AFTER the microsoft Fall update on the 3.60.09 BUT then upgraded to 4.70.06 and broke everything. 3- Netflix internal app on the TV. Watching the "Death Note" before the update produced Rich and Amazing Dolby Atmos sound from the 65E7v internal soundbar (even though the picture was and still is grainy). After the update you still get the dolby Atmos notification in the uper right corner when watching the "Death Note" but the sound is too darn low, you have crank up the sound to 90 level to barely hear anything. I don't know if the issue is also existing with other internal TV apps as i haven't tried any, after all those issues, i got so disapointed with what once was a perfectly Awesome TV that i am not even switching it on anymore, went back to watching on my G6. 4- Apple TV 4k, experiencing lip sync issues and getting audio drop outs when watching anything that has dolby sound. You have to know something, prior to the 4.70.06 i never touched the av sync setting on the TV, i had perfect sync with everything connected to the TV across the board. Now after the update, when started testing, i had to go back to the av sync setting and tweak it seven ways from sunday to barely get it to be watchable in content.

[@file1man]

Naj B Seems like you should roll back to the prior firmware, Given all your problems

[@naj_]

file1man, that's not an option... it is not possible for the 2017 models to be downgraded. You could on the 2016 sets. Anyway I ended up getting a new TV altogether, one that is still on the previous firmware out of the box.

[@file1man]

ive bought a b7a schedule to be delivered shortly. makes me nervous that in 2017 lg would cause so many serious problems with a firmware update- seems like they did not debug or apply the firmware to a few of their sets in their lab to uncover & fix issues . So far, I only see LG refusing any real warranty claims for excessive vertical bars or lines ie blue lines running completey down the length of tv, excessive pink or red tints ruining viewing. Customer support at LG seems very poor, nonexistant. Versus Sony who makes good effort to foster customer satisfaction on warranty claims. But Sony is priced 30 to 50 % higher than LG

[@ELEVOPR]

file1man Wow I am also waiting on a 65" b7a Model. If i have any issues during the return period, it's going back. No, if and or but's about it. Can you post pictures of the vertical bending lines and tint issues you were having? Are you forced to update? Or can you skip an update? I usually wait a few months before i update, just to see what issues others are having :o/ Best of luck to you.

[@stevestory8483]

Which would you recommend the 2017 B7 or the 2018 Sony x900F in the US? I like action movies so am worried about the soap opera effect. Both TVs cost the same amount in the US and wanted to get your expert opinion. Is there any other TVs other than the ones I mentioned that you like better? Thanks for the great reviews hdtvtest

[@Iksperial]

this is my TV yey!

[@serloinoflamm1119]

Great review. I have a 2016 OLED55E6 which I bought last December. It has not received this update. Does this mean my last year’s model is now obsolete?

[@semihgenc94]

Thank you for your Video! But i ve bot a question about the B7. Is it right that there are some problems with burning in issues? If thats right, how can i fix it ? Thanks..

[@semihgenc94]

C J Thank you for your answer!!

[@semihgenc94]

C J thank you for your share! But this one is the B6. :-))

[@semihgenc94]

C J It does not matter, you helped me a lot! :-)

[@CRHarneyIII]

Awesome reviews, advice, and expert knowledge! I have the C7P and trying to see if I can get the right calibration Settings as much as possible can you please help me! Running firmware 4.70.07 latest here in US at least for my tv! Thanks again!

[@apollian]

hi Vincent, I brought the C6 based on your opinions and I love it. does this firmware effect that model too? I like having 3D options and love the curved screen which looks lush from side viewing.

[@hdtvtest]

This firmware only applies to 2017 models, sorry.

[@JuanHernandez-ee9ze]

Have a LG OLED C7 but a thk my xbox one X making it look bad in some way like in Blu-ray 4k movies in 16:9 format look green in the outer layer what can I do

[@privaatsak]

Vincent, I'm sure this is a common question, but do you have a link to the lovely 4K artwork you use as a screensaver on these OLED? Thanks for the wonderful reviews, the most helpful on the web! Would you mind doing an update on the latest firmware on the LG C6 from last year? There seem to be some confusion there regarding HLG implementation and the new HDR gmaing mode update.

[@HeavyMetalSonicRM]

No more updates for the B6? I'm still waiting for a fix that doesn't force wide color gamut in game mode.

[@JudeNiro]

Good on them for updating their 2017 TVs. Not so good on them for abandoning us 2016 owners! And can they please bring back 3D. Our content still exists, you know.

[@jeffclermont2360]

Hi Vincent, I am very appreciative of the knowledge you share on your channel here, I am very interested in knowing if my Gen. 3 non-4K Apple TV will be able to deliver Dolby Vision content to this LG B7 OLED TV. Also I would like to know which TV is best suited to work with the APPLE TV 4K or Non 4K

[@hdtvtest]

No to first question. Answer to 2nd question is Dolby Vision-capable OLED.

[@jasonstevenson85]

Love your content. I got a great deal on a brand new 55B7A ($600). I plan on purchasing the SJ9 sound bar to complement the television in a smaller space. If I plan on using the bar's Atmos audio "capability ", do I just run my content through the bar for decoding, then out to the TV?

[@jacef1121]

Did they fix the burn-in? Or at least covered it in the warranty? That's all that matters really

[@edwardking1603]

Hi and Dear Vincent Glad you are great at TVs I like seeing all your TV reviews If you can see if a oled tv can last as long as a LED TV Since you mit like them both.I do too.Sorry im not rich.When it comes to movies it mite look a little better on a oled TV.Even if we still like LED TVS Too.Have a very very good day.

[@brettrnz]

Hi Vincent , i have the 2017 LG C7, i just tried to find the update but my tv is saying the latest update is 04.70.06, is this because i live in Japan? if so, will Japan have the update ? Cheers.

[@davybloggs1564]

Brett - I have the 65B7 too, and only have the same update as you - 04.70.06 - and the update service says that there's no update, so how does Vincent get the .10 version? Vincent?

[@RealHeroGuy]

Great Review, very informative. Quick question is HDR in Video Games the same as Movies where the APL remains the same as SDR and the extra brightness is only used for highlight detail?

[@hdtvtest]

That's the theory... although game developers will be taking their own liberties.

[@MartinHAndersen]

Hi Vincent I really respect your knowledge about TV's So I want your help to decide if its time for a replacement of my much beloved Panasonic TC-PVT50. I am super sensitiv to motion blur, SOAP effect and unnatural colours, in that order. So why do I want to upgrade? I would like to jump the HDR wagon, I also love the picture quality of 4K but HDR is whats really makes a difference. Can the LG 65B7 in your option replace my old Panasonic?

[@remic2902]

Could you calibrate à French TV ? I’m really interested.

[@RickaLocious]

$1405.08 B7 55" Vs $1198.00 X900E 55" Vs $1698.00 X930E?? My current shopping around prices. All out the door priced. Which one would come home with you?

[@IAmLusoX]

How to restart a non-responsive app like Netflix? Power cycling tv doesn't work since last 2 firmware updates broke OS quick start function. IT'S ALWAYS ON! It's my second unit, exchanged since vertical banding was very bad on first one. Both tvs had same issue after firmware update on B7P

[@mwscuba]

Not that a want to correct you but camera dont pan down they tilt down :) just like you dont tilt left :)

[@erazorCTF]

Vincent do you know what is different between the B7V (European Version) and the B7D, which is the distinct German version? In Germany you can buy both, but I'd like to know what the difference actually is and can't find any information.

[@Ample17]

Dear Vincent, could you do a video or at least tell me your personal opinion on the problem of Burn In on the LG Oleds/Oleds at all ? I'm close before buying a 55b7 and stumbled on the various reports of burn in problems with the 2016 oleds today.. Since i game alot (not everyday but if i do i tend to do sessions from 4-6 hours) i'm very worried about this issue now.

[@andyvecc4798]

Any improvement in pixel refresher and how to use it VINCE!!!!! ?

[@IAmLusoX]

Hello, thanks for this video. What do you suggest to reduce vertical banding? I have the OLED65B7P in Canada. Thanks.

[@file1man]

Based on Naj B comments with many issues created by the latest LG firmware updates, do you suggest I, with a new B7A bought nov 21, 2017 update its firmware. As a computer techie, firmware updates rarely cause problems on our computers, but we can always delete & reinstall a prior firmware . I see many comments that once firmware updates are applied to 2017 LG models, a prior firmware cant be re-installed. apparently 2016 models could go back to a prior firmware, not 2017 models. Can someone confirm they installed newest firmware then deleted and went back? and are ew firmware issues a problems for very few LG owners.

[@slopedarmor]

Wait this update makes dark even darker? I use the 55" B7V as a PC monitor, and I have the impression dark colours are too dark already. In the most extreme cases some shadows in games seem black while there should be some detail in there. Won't this update just make that worse?

[@woobRobbo]

Just spoke to Crampton & Moore and they say they no longer offer calibration - any thoughts on this or how to get it done before shipping?

[@jvault3572]

Which 65 in tvs would you recommend to buy a top 5 list would be great

[@unknownuser0006]

How is the technicolor picture mode's before calibration color accuracy? LG is loud about how accurate this picture mode is so I'm curious how close this picture mode to Panasonic's before calibration color accuracy

[@X7007]

HDTV would you say I should update my lg55c6 Tv from 4.30.xx to 5.30? I will need to use Dynamic Contrast in HDR in game mode to get the same brightness as standard picture. what should I do?

[@jakekeele]

I thought this was very informative but its still unclear to me if all the new features from the firmware update talked about in this video apply to those looking to buy an LG B7P in the States. Is this an update only European TV owners have (B7V) or is it for all LG B7 owners? And as always thanks Vincent for your in-depth reviews.

[@hdtvtest]

All B7 as long as it's 04.70.xx firmware.

[@monkew]

Good video, Vincent. Cleared up my confusion over what the Technicolour preset brought to the table. On another note related to the B7/C7, do you know why Dolby Vision is showing a lot of noise in some Netflix streams? A good example is any sky scene in Stranger Things season 2. I've seen suggestions of the noise/grain being inherent in the source but it's so ugly that I suspect that not to be the case. I'd be interested to hear your view on this. Thanks for all the good videos.

[@ShoZama85]

I know with Stranger Things The Duffer Bros. apply a film grain effect to the show.

[@monkew]

ShoZama85 that's what I read but it's somewhat obscene in the DV stream of season 2 and I've not seen anyone mention it in PQ reviews.

[@TetraVaalBioSecurity]

Matt Weir hey Matt, the grain/noise in Stranger Things 2, is artificial, and added in post. It stands out due to the inherent compression artifacts that stem from streamed content. The Marvel shows suffer from this as well-but IMO, the Dolby Vision still looks terrific.

[@LEMON48]

Very detail explanation but nexf time Vincent put the both at the same hight 😆

[@troy4340]

GRIMM WESSEN i would also not have them on an angle

[@a36538]

How does the posterization fix compare against Sony’s smooth graduation option aka superbitmapping?

[@hdtvtest]

Sony's Smooth Gradation still better.

[@edgardonato6868]

Was this the update for dolby vision

[@romeostar1584]

What is the best LG Blu - ray Disc Player? Please write me the model name in English and thank you

[@samuraisqrrl]

my C7 arrives in a few days, are you suggesting using the technicolor setting over the isf settings? I’m slightly confused by this point