5 TV Settings That Should be ILLEGAL (for Harming Picture Quality)

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We demonstrate five TV settings that you should adjust on your television to obtain the most accurate picture quality to faithfully reproduce the creative intent.
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0:00 Before & after comparison
0:20 TV Setting #1
2:25 TV Setting #2
3:43 TV Setting #3
4:46 TV Setting #4
6:53 TV Setting #5
8:56 One picture mode to do it all!
9:46 Instructions for different TV brands
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@Jona69
@Jona69 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that when you change color temperature it will take a few minutes for your eyes to adjust to the new white point. So don't dismiss the warmer color temperature immediately.
@_Chessa_
@_Chessa_ 2 жыл бұрын
Dismisses warmer color anyways because it doesn’t feel true to what my eyes see in nature.
@eddiemin4312
@eddiemin4312 2 жыл бұрын
As a designer I always found the default settings to be too cool. Sadly, I’ve met too many designers who don’t get this concept
@eduardocampos5989
@eduardocampos5989 2 жыл бұрын
What I like doing is watching a little bit at settings a slightly more exaggerated than the recommended . Ex: After about 5 mins of watching TV at WARM 3, i would switch to warm 2/1 and all the accuracy becomes completely satisfactory !
@Lordani66
@Lordani66 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. On my previous Samsung TV I had it on warm for 2 years and then I visited my neighbout and saw his beautiful NORMAL color temperature and instantly had to revert this option. I NEVER could get used to the piss filter. Also why are you all always comparing warm to cold and saying cold looks too blueish? Why not compare to normal temperature setting. I don't like either cold nor warm, normal is always the best and most realistic looking.
@Mike0
@Mike0 2 жыл бұрын
True, cant stand either the blue or yellow tint in the before and after. White should be white If you take a picture of something, the TV and the thing should look the same
@xaviers2721
@xaviers2721 2 жыл бұрын
This uniform is for Vincent "other job"🤣🤣🤣
@artnull13
@artnull13 2 жыл бұрын
Lol legend
@remondx8880
@remondx8880 2 жыл бұрын
You mean like, my "HDMI 2.1 port is ready for your high bandwidth cable, master... Oh yes, I'm fully certified with ALL specifications... Plug it in!"?
@NeuroPulse
@NeuroPulse 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no...
@hypno17
@hypno17 2 жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@Sloimer
@Sloimer 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@hariharanshekar3483
@hariharanshekar3483 Жыл бұрын
Summary: 1. Don't crank up the sharpness setting (keep it neutral). 02:15 2. Turn off Noise reduction 3. Ensure Zero overscan. 04:36 4. Turn off Motion Smoothing 5. Color temperature - use (target the D65 white point) Tl:Dr - filmmaker mode
@Zeegoku1007
@Zeegoku1007 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@WalterMelons
@WalterMelons Жыл бұрын
I don’t have filmmaker mode on my Samsung. There’s dynamic, standard, natural, and movie.
@thedutchfisherman7078
@thedutchfisherman7078 Жыл бұрын
@@WalterMelons i don't know what modell and year your tv is from but have you ever updated the tv's software?
@WalterMelons
@WalterMelons Жыл бұрын
@@thedutchfisherman7078 I intentionally have not ever connected it to the internet. Maybe that’s why lol.
@cestgum7672
@cestgum7672 Жыл бұрын
thanks G
@joeg.5669
@joeg.5669 3 ай бұрын
Vincent, All I have to say is THANK YOU. I recently cut the cable cord and currently going with Hulu + Live TV. When I did I experienced all kinds of picture quality and mainly motion related issues on my Samsung QN90B to the point where I was literally about to pull the trigger on another new TV. Your guidance has made a drastic improvement. I am still seeing some minor imperfections which I can live with but thanks to you I won't be shelling out big bucks for a new tv.
@Jona69
@Jona69 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that overscan is still on by default on many tv's is insane.
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 2 жыл бұрын
What's more sad is the number of people who want it on when I show them the difference.
@DisgruntledDoomer
@DisgruntledDoomer 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing with interpolation. Still there, for whatever reason.
@adriantrinidad1296
@adriantrinidad1296 2 жыл бұрын
so should i leave fit to screen on “on” or “off”
@Mike0
@Mike0 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriantrinidad1296 Yes
@VinylComeback
@VinylComeback 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriantrinidad1296 "On" if you have a Samsung. Just whatever setting that makes the picture look smaller, because that means your TV is not zooming in and killing the borders.
@normietwiceremoved
@normietwiceremoved 2 жыл бұрын
You are honestly a saving grace for TV buyers. I'm glad you're busting myths and educating people on the REAL technology, not pseudo marketing nonsense.
@arkham_miami
@arkham_miami 2 жыл бұрын
I turned off sharpness and now everything looks disgusting Thanks alot asian police man
@normietwiceremoved
@normietwiceremoved 2 жыл бұрын
@@arkham_miami I personally don't put the sharpness all the way down, I put it on 10/100, sometimes a little bit of sharpening helps crisp up the image a little.
@bevanfindlay
@bevanfindlay 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it would be except that he is objectively wrong on a couple of counts. Motion smoothing can do nasty things with certain shots, but it's better than the "purist" view of watching what feels like stop motion. Similarly, film grain isn't "artistic", it's still just unnecessary noise. In some of these cases, he's not busting myths, he's spreading them.
@normietwiceremoved
@normietwiceremoved 2 жыл бұрын
@@bevanfindlay 24fps doesn't feel like stop motion. It's been filmed at that rate for years and the only reason why you feel its unbearable is because you think "more is better". Film grain may not be to your artistic tastes (and thats fine), but though it is 'noisier', the image is actually clearer because denoising generally makes an image less detailed.
@bevanfindlay
@bevanfindlay 2 жыл бұрын
@@normietwiceremoved No, that frame rate was chosen as being the bare minimum that usually looks passable for most scenes. Try playing a first person game at 24 frames and at 60 and tell me which you prefer and if you can tell the difference (spoiler: we can; vision alone can pick up changes to around 90 Hz under many circumstances, higher in certain unusual ones). Pro gamers can perform differently at as much as 200 fps, though some of that has to do with more than just vision (input lag etc). Noise is the same - even a basic denoise algorithm isn't going to affect detail much, and film grain is still just garbage optical noise - it's the "purists" who are ignoring visual science. It's people saying they prefer something broken over something better. The Hobbit movies were the first time I didn't feel like a movie was horrible and jittery (pity that they made some other mistakes that some blame on the frame rate when they're unrelated).
@thegreatoffendo4532
@thegreatoffendo4532 Жыл бұрын
Switched up my TV last night and wow. I mostly game on it and it first and at first it did feel yeelish as some mentioned. However, once my eyes adjusted it was crazy good. So much more tone and depth. Made the space scenery really pop with the blacks contrasting to color. Can't ever go back, thanks for the video.
@patriciamillin1977
@patriciamillin1977 Жыл бұрын
As a hobby photographer I agree with the problems caused by too much sharpness and noise reduction. It’s exactly the same when you are editing photos. This also applies to white points and picture temperatures.
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr 9 ай бұрын
That’s not true. Most RAW files are under sharpened.
@joshuakyle9494
@joshuakyle9494 8 ай бұрын
Sharpened images always look better, have more accurate lighting, better contrast and 10x more detail. I think 88% of the population are just visually impaired without even knowing it.
@godzilla2k26
@godzilla2k26 6 ай бұрын
​@@joshuakyle9494Agreed. I'm looking at snow far whiter than what this video claims is possible to even see and I live in a dirty city.
@sonyx4500
@sonyx4500 6 ай бұрын
​@@godzilla2k26I live in a clean city. And the snow doesn't look bluish like the cold and standard temperature on the Television. Same with clouds. The sunlight have a natural yellow tint
@godzilla2k26
@godzilla2k26 6 ай бұрын
@@sonyx4500 Sunlight is natural white light. This is why people need to get out of the cities sometimes.
@PaulVandersypen
@PaulVandersypen 2 жыл бұрын
You have answered, with freeze fame and video, the questions I had for years. I bought a 4K TV a few years ago, and it never looked right. The LotR and Mission: Impossible comparisons were exactly what I have been viewing: too smooth, too glossy, like the movies were rendered instead of filmed. A massive thank you, good sir!
@theswampus670
@theswampus670 2 жыл бұрын
here i was thinking it was just Blu-ray remastering messing with LOTR when the newer tv's were also to blame.
@janetf1502
@janetf1502 Жыл бұрын
You are a LOOSER. What are you doing here in the Philippines? Whats wrong with Allan and Steve? Why are they stealing our packages? Are those people fake?
@janetf1502
@janetf1502 Жыл бұрын
By the way, BLUE doesnt live in the Philippines anymore! Those who remains here are loosers stealing packages!!!
@AWSVids
@AWSVids Жыл бұрын
@@theswampus670 I hate that so many people have ended up making that mistake. I remember back when Blu-Ray and HDTVs were first becoming a big thing, and motion smoothing was coming out around the same time. I saw a lot of people saying things like "HD/Blu-Ray makes it look too real, like I'm watching behind the scenes footage or something." I remember I saw a comment once where someone said, "I saw them playing the new Die Hard movie on Blu-ray in the store, and it looked like I was watching Bruce Willis film the movie, instead of watching the movie. I prefer DVD, where it looks like a movie." I had to tell him that he was probably watching a tv with motion smoothing turned on, and that Blu-ray actually looks more filmic with the right settings. It is very frustrating that so many people don't notice it, or if they do, don't know it can be turned off. I'd say about half of my friends and family, when I go over to their house, I ask if we can turn the motion smoothing off, and they're like "What's that? I don't know how." and then I turn it off and they're like, "Oh wow, you got rid of the soap opera effect!"
@jamesc5801
@jamesc5801 Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah thank God, I thought I was the only one who noticed this
@mytech6779
@mytech6779 2 жыл бұрын
I have an older DVD box set of the Starwars 4,5,6 remasters. If I go into the extras menu they have a whole thing for setting up your TV, a bunch of test screens and instructions to get just the right sharpness, contrast, brightness, color balance, etc. After using it all my movies look a lot better than they did with the default settings options.
@ashkenaze
@ashkenaze 8 ай бұрын
1. Sharpness 00:15 2. Noise Reduction 02:23 3. Overscan 03:42 4: Motion Smoothing 04:45 5. Color Temperature: WARM 06:53
@mechanicalpants
@mechanicalpants 8 ай бұрын
Thankyou 👍
@makoto5280
@makoto5280 7 ай бұрын
color space Auto (if u not calibrate)
@paulmidgley8040
@paulmidgley8040 5 ай бұрын
You'd be surprised how many people prefer motion smoothness. I for one prefer it.
@BlueFusion2910
@BlueFusion2910 3 ай бұрын
Fuck warm. Neutral only(maybe slightly warm with manual calibration, if the TV's "neutral" is too cool) Not yellow not blue. Just right.
@rubikangelo
@rubikangelo Жыл бұрын
Omg, this is by far one of the most enlightening videos ever. Since forever I could not understand for the life of me that why my UHD OLED tv wouldn't show the high quality 8k image in that quality and what's wrong. As u said, found all those settings on in my JVC tv, switched them off and immediately got the quality that I have always been yearning for
@johnathanfelton6251
@johnathanfelton6251 2 жыл бұрын
Great tips in this video! This advice was generally true for old CRT tvs, and is especially true with today's digital LCD tvs. Try turning off some of those extra noise or blur filters to see if you prefer the look of the picture better without them or not, and turn down the picture adjustment settings a bit. Too much extra contrast, brightness, and color saturation is not a good thing. You lose a lot of subtle details when they are fully turned up. And keep your color temp/tint/hue setting mostly to the middle so it isn't too unnaturally cool/green- pale blue, or overly warm/ orange-red. You will know it is set right if your primary colors appear correct. (REDS that that are deep and bright without looking orangeish or maroonish, and GREENS/yellows, and BLUES, that appear natural and vivid without looking muted or like other colors. Also keep the sharpness set low or barely on if used ay all, because too much creates exaggerated noisey edges. Keeping the picture settings lower not only produces a more natural and detailed picture, it improves the overall performance, and extends the useful life of your TV.
@DanteBellin
@DanteBellin 2 жыл бұрын
Fully agreed with every of the 5 points - But I have to admit it took me two decades to change the color temperature to warm 50. Strangely I always found the neutral/colder temeperatures more realistic. But once I got used to it, there is no way back.
@bigmoviefreak
@bigmoviefreak 2 жыл бұрын
Always felt like there was a yellow smear. It’s hard for my eyes to accept something like clouds or snow with a tinge of yellow. But this would explain why skin tones can sometimes go very pink or magenta. I will readjust my settings and try it out for a while like you recommended.
@-grey
@-grey 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigmoviefreak skin is pretty pink in reality. Shifting in some green and amber into the white balance makes white people look more pleasingly beige, but everyone else looks more green.
@LightsJusticeZ
@LightsJusticeZ 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same on my phone. Whenever I look at someone else's phone, I always forget how blue the white is.
@malazan6004
@malazan6004 2 жыл бұрын
Im still like you and prefer medium one day I'll have to try warm 2
@timovepsalainen4927
@timovepsalainen4927 2 жыл бұрын
Human eye whitebalances automaticly. Ambient light usually 3200k (yellow) and background of your screen can shift your perception of colors. For this reason I would recommend watching movies in dark room.
@Lexy-O
@Lexy-O 2 жыл бұрын
I independently noticed all of this as a film student. I can’t stress how terrible sharpness is. It’s most noticeable on film grain and text but I assure you it ruins the image on everything. Smooth Motion is a close second worst. Great video!
@naradloff
@naradloff 2 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video in which everything is explained in detail. Kudos. I've often had these questions and wondered what the best settings were.
@knwr
@knwr 2 жыл бұрын
This was no bs, straight to the point, informative stuff. Also anybody who prefers motion blur is wrong. Edit: to clarify I was referring to the setting, which is actually called "motion smoothing" on some TVs.
@ldawg7117
@ldawg7117 2 жыл бұрын
It pissed me off beyond comprehension that HD tvs come with that setting on. If I go to a friend's house and they have that on, I will always insist on changing it. I don't get out anyone is able to watch shit with that awful awful f@cking setting on.
@xavierfranco5800
@xavierfranco5800 2 жыл бұрын
I liked it because it made things look kind of 3D to me. I think the first time I saw it was when I was watching a demo for one of the Transformers movies. Hyper-realism does have its place with some content. But the "some" is the key word here. If I was watching 12 Angry Men with motion smoothing on it would just be annoying as shit.
@nicksrandomness2774
@nicksrandomness2774 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never had a motion smoothing tv until I bought a Samsung on Black Friday. When I watched my first movie I was like, something feels really off. So I sat through the movie then immediately messed with the settings to see if I could fix it. Sure enough I could and I turned it off. If I was watching KZbin then maybe it would be good, but it’s a hard no when it comes to using it
@Flackon
@Flackon 2 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing you mean motion smoothing? Motion blur is what filming at 24 fps naturally produces (the so called “cinematic” feel) Personally, I hate artificial motion smoothing, but if it’s content natively intended to be high framerate, I prefer that
@IonMario94
@IonMario94 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck motion blur. It makes me sick and is the first thing I always disable. My gf thought I was crazy until I showed her why
@e.x.watson9997
@e.x.watson9997 2 жыл бұрын
Picture setup on my TVs has always felt like a huge rabbit hole for me, especially for gaming. This channel's been of great help for me.
@iswoman
@iswoman 2 жыл бұрын
I really learned a lot from you, so I definitely subscribed! Not only do you impart you information clearly, but you are so funny! You make learning funny! The only downside that I've found watching the 2 videos that I have seen so far, is that I'm going to have to spend a LOT of time watching your videos!
@thomasryhle1729
@thomasryhle1729 Жыл бұрын
Tip 1 literally saved my HDR... I always thought my TV has just a bad implemantation of HDR but is was actually just my sharpness setting cranked up to maximum. I have a Samsung Q6FN btw. Thanks for that tip!
@cr0mag732
@cr0mag732 2 жыл бұрын
On my LG OLED TV I agree with everything except colour temp. I've found warm1 to be the best compromise, warm2 is pretty good but warm3 looks like a urine filter over the image
@MeMyselfI_69
@MeMyselfI_69 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed I prefer Warm1 on my LG OLED as well.
@Csal92
@Csal92 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm about to purchase a C1 I'll keep this in mind.
@majorastorm
@majorastorm 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer cool
@Fuzzyfoot88
@Fuzzyfoot88 2 жыл бұрын
@@Csal92 Warm1 user as well. It's the best way to go.
@MeMyselfI_69
@MeMyselfI_69 2 жыл бұрын
@@majorastorm Cool is to blue-ish for my taste
@lowrivera
@lowrivera 2 жыл бұрын
In the late 90s early 00s, I was a subscriber to a magazine called Sound & Vision. I loved their articles about this. Been turning off my NR, and in the 1080p days only introduce minimal sharpness, amongst other things turned off and only at minimal settings. I love this channel, Vincent is awesome, extremely funny, entertaining, and very informative.
@jacobmarley2417
@jacobmarley2417 2 жыл бұрын
easily the best AV guy imo. Him and CNET are all i look for to reviews.
@goji3755
@goji3755 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video! I found it incredibly helpful in fixing all the shimmering and rippling effects I was seeing on a bunch of my movies. Definitely keeping this saved for future reference, in the event I buy another TV.
@balzinderchhabra8804
@balzinderchhabra8804 2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen anyone explain and compare this so well. Big thanks.
@Millsiac
@Millsiac 2 жыл бұрын
Huge thanks for showing the specific setting names for the different manufacturers. Most other reviewers I've seen don't provide clarity with this.
@nfal445
@nfal445 2 жыл бұрын
The filmmaker setting tends to not take into consideration room lighting. It's great if the room is completely black, but with windows the setting is too dark and sometimes too washed out.
@_Chessa_
@_Chessa_ 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@rickycardenas5154
@rickycardenas5154 2 жыл бұрын
💯 watched a video where some guy said to set my brightness at 8...the picture looked like it was night time the entire movie and I couldn't see stuff that was going on if the films setting was night on top of that
@sholmesbrown
@sholmesbrown 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickycardenas5154 Set for color accuracy and then just go through a few scenes and adjust the brightness until you're happy with it. I find the star wars prequels to be very dark in dolby vision mode but when I tested a dark scene while paused turning up the brightness didn't reveal any more details just raised the shadow from black to grey.
@a552bcx
@a552bcx 2 жыл бұрын
some t.v have additional camera sensor that cancel the ambient lighting by readjusting the color temp.
@bigmoviefreak
@bigmoviefreak 2 жыл бұрын
I own a lesser-known brand of TV that has a faux filmmaker mode. At first I thought it was because it wasn’t true filmmaker mode that’s why it was too dark, but your comments here now confirms that it is the same for legit filmmaker mode too.
@swami5073
@swami5073 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% when it comes to motion smoothing. I play both games and watch movies and cannot stand even slight motion smoothing while watching movies. Glad to see there is an option to turn it off. All companies should do proper calibration in TV instead of over-riding features just for appeal. But customers eventually would come to their senses.
@GanymedeXD
@GanymedeXD Жыл бұрын
@Swami What is ‘proper’ calibration? Proper calibration is what is most appealing for the viewer … regardless what anybody else says. Smoothing on looks much better to me when watching UHD than turning it off, same with a good level of sharpness. Got mine professionally calibrated from one of our leading companies … looked absolutely shit. Same with those best settings. Locally they even stopped doing calibration services as the viewer’s individual taste usually massively conflicted with best calibrations. Best is what the viewer enjoys most.
@swami5073
@swami5073 Жыл бұрын
@@GanymedeXD smoothing on feels like fast forward to me. Like you said, every individual has their taste. If you see RTINGS, they have pre-calibration settings review and post calibration settings review points.
@kennypowers1945
@kennypowers1945 9 ай бұрын
I’m the opposite lol I love when they are high frames. Makes it feel so much more real same with games
@kennypowers1945
@kennypowers1945 9 ай бұрын
@@swami5073feels the same to me just more real
@justhere8149
@justhere8149 10 ай бұрын
You saved me my LG C2 was set to Just Scan Auto so as per your instructions I changed Just Scan to On and it zoomed back out how it should be. I thought having my aspect ratio set to original would take care of "zooming in" picture but nope I also needed to change Just Scan to On and now the aspect ratio really is proper. Thank you so much! I thought I had it all figured out on my C2 but this is a nice surprise thanks again. I like SOE a lot so no convincing me to change that even if its a more accurate picture I just like it.
@adhishbanad8483
@adhishbanad8483 2 жыл бұрын
Me watching in 144p on my phone, in screen in screen: "hmmm, yes, I agree"
@JB-fh1bb
@JB-fh1bb 2 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian (who also aggressively uses f.lux), I must push back on the “warm” temp setting for LOTR. Above a certain latitude, the UV rays of the sun “glance off” the atmosphere and no longer reach the surface or most of the sky. This means that being outside on even the sunniest days brings no warmth from the sun, and that everything is much bluer. To your credit, I think LOTR got this wrong, but to my Canadian eyes the one on the left looks far more accurate.
@MrGittz
@MrGittz 2 жыл бұрын
Also a Canadian and I also was like “uuhh what this guy talking about, the one on the left looks much better to me”
@TheHawaiianc
@TheHawaiianc 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they also made it warmer on film but your right but also him in away but truth it the way it's film yah I hate way directors tweak colors like that there no point.. but also Linus tech tips said don't trust the filmmaker mode because it's up user because some tv may differ only way is if you cal it through expert via pc but still... If you think you can I look up I think spider x data color and use calman it really fix the tv yah it made it warm but I push it back my lg was set to warm 1 but I push it to medium...
@emilioa.2365
@emilioa.2365 2 жыл бұрын
A filmmaker dude made the Hateful Eight look warm and it looks like crap too.
@josiahferrell5022
@josiahferrell5022 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not even Canadian. I grew up in Ohio U.S. and the snow definitely strikes me as being white. Ffs what happened to the phrase "don't eat the yellow snow"?
@dash3dot
@dash3dot 2 жыл бұрын
@@josiahferrell5022 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! The fucking movies are COLOR GRADED!!!! If you want to see the fucking snow in it's natural color look out the fucking window. The movies are color graded to the desire of the director and colorist. WTF?!!
@zualemod
@zualemod Жыл бұрын
Man this guy is hilarious! His costume and everything hahahah too good! I love all the hardwork you put in and genuinely enjoy your reviews, comparisons and guides!!!
@DoubleOProductions
@DoubleOProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saving me the trouble of making this video... the biggest shame is that with new TVs, you need to spend half an hour fixing all the damn settings back to a neutral viewing experience.... I might add that finding the mid-point in the colour temperature might be preferred by most people rather than going full warmth... good video.
@Avril.Lavigne
@Avril.Lavigne Жыл бұрын
that's exactly.. neither cold nor warm. Totally neutral!
@akinokenshi24
@akinokenshi24 2 жыл бұрын
I was an advocate for Cool color temperature for a long time. I finally decided to switch to warm since that’s what every professional recommends. You need to allow a week or so for your eyes to adjust and warm will not look yellow anymore. So many TVs our whole lives have defaulted to a cool color temperature, so our eyes make us think that a bluer white is the real white. Once you adjust, warm white looks perfect and cool looks way too blue. The yellow goes away from the whole picture as well, it’s just that white tends to be the most jarring.
@saliwanpl1832
@saliwanpl1832 2 жыл бұрын
Thats True. I was try 3 Times and now i cant look blue anymore xD i must my Phone change settings to warm xd
@Logical
@Logical 2 жыл бұрын
Yes this can go for any setting... 'once you adjust' it looks fine. If I believe the 'experts' I need to put my LG tv on max warmth, but it screws up the picture, it's yellow and way to green. Warm 30 or somewhere is where it makes much more sense to me. In the end, it's your own preference, sure you want it as close as filmmakers intended, but I doubt it's warm 50 on LG OLED tv's, because white isn't white at all. Nope, you surely don't want it all cold and blue neither. The truth is something in the middle. If I follow all the so called expert suggestions I'm left with a pretty dull picture. Maybe they've been watching on there own perfect settings for so long anything else seems off to them. But that's the same for someone that's used to a very cold setting. By all means, play with the settings and don't just do what people tell you to do. By the way, this is coming from someone that has his phone on warm eye care 24/7 and uses yellow anti blue light glasses all day. But I can still tell the difference between yellow/green and white 😉
@sharebear421
@sharebear421 2 жыл бұрын
I did the opposite lol finally got use to blue and I like it a lot more. It’s more vivid and I’m not a fan of the muted yellow look. Even in this video the yellow setting makes everyone’s skin tone looks like they have a fake tan instead of looking white lol Made everything look like it was shot in a desert or post apocalyptic not to mention the warm 2 setting looks bad on games imo
@Sir_Mack
@Sir_Mack 2 жыл бұрын
I can't watch warm. No way
@desinho9
@desinho9 2 жыл бұрын
@@Logical Just because you set it to Warm doesn't mean it's correct already. The greyscale out of the box is never perfect and visibly affects white the most ... Dull picture just needs to up the Brightness/backlight, not changing the colour temperature or other colour/contrast settings ... Check out some older reviews on HDTV Polska and see the difference between out of the box Warm and a calibrated picture on the Warm setting
@CrazeyHaze
@CrazeyHaze 2 жыл бұрын
I've lived almost 40 years now, and this the first time I've heard some of these settings explained. Thank you.
@jenniferstone5911
@jenniferstone5911 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!! I thought the picture never looked right on my brand new tv and messed with the settings a little bit. Through much frustration, I just gave up and put it back at factory default. Now, through your help, my Samsung's picture is gorgeous!
@brinda191727
@brinda191727 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, Vincent. I turned off all this garbage and I’m surprised how much more I’m enjoying my 900H. I thought I loved the artificial enhancements, especially the Live Color, but I realized it was making all reds, for example, look equally vibrant, thus severely limiting the range of color in a movie. It also hides some details with Live Color on. I’m honestly shocked, and I’m finally using the Custom mode and DolbyVision modes where possible.
@boscoliaw5702
@boscoliaw5702 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely useful information. I applied all the picture settings recommended by Vincent Teoh except motion smoothing. Just can't stand the judder. Great job, Vincent. Thank you.
@SolidSpear6
@SolidSpear6 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same for me
@Dashzer0
@Dashzer0 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@TheWildcard4542000
@TheWildcard4542000 2 жыл бұрын
I just found this channel. Thank you, I've been looking for this sort of explanation of settings for awhile now. Very informative.
@gisakur15
@gisakur15 Жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much, I couldn’t enjoy my new tv because everything felt weird, now I understand why. Just picking the Filmmaker mode fixed everything for me, had to turn off the power saving mode and it was perfect.
@oddcabbage
@oddcabbage 2 жыл бұрын
On the c1 if you completely disable the motion settings most movies and TV series look like a blurry juddering mess. You need it at least on its lowest setting which is cinema
@MILADINY0
@MILADINY0 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this. On the cx and c9 LGs too. Probably all LG OLEDs.
@oddcabbage
@oddcabbage 2 жыл бұрын
@@MILADINY0 it's the same with game optimazer mode. It's great as long as the game is 60fps but there are no motion settings in this mode so as soon as you playba 30fps game it's hard to even Look at it
@MILADINY0
@MILADINY0 2 жыл бұрын
@@oddcabbage yep, good point. Unplayable - and the issue with switching to another mode in gaming is the input latency.
@oddcabbage
@oddcabbage 2 жыл бұрын
@@MILADINY0 they should have some motion settings available in game mode. My Samsung Q80 has it so it's not hard to implement
@DjCliff86
@DjCliff86 2 жыл бұрын
@@oddcabbage That’s why we need to get rid of 30fps games. It will always look and feel like dogshit.
@NOTW116
@NOTW116 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. I turned on most settings when I got my tv because they sounded like they gave a better picture quality without knowing their actual effect. Not sure I agree with the warm setting though. But not everyone's eyes, tvs, or even films are the same though. I will definetly be doing some tweaks to my settings to test how I like things.
@darkaheart
@darkaheart Жыл бұрын
nice! i actually learned a few things. I never played with the sharpness setting so i always left it alone. I did not know about noise reduction so i always turned it on, same goes for overscan. now for smooth motion, i have always turned off no matter where i went as long as the opportunity presented itself. color temperature, i never liked too cool or blue so i always use some neutral color and always saved a warmer and dimmer brightness preset for movies at night. i hate watching a "bright colorful movie" at night with no lamps on with the tv at its maximum bright settings.
@Serpico777ful
@Serpico777ful Жыл бұрын
Thanks ! That's what i call helpfull advices from an actual expert ! Very well explained thank you sir. I have an OLED TV G1 Evo and your videos are always helping me to improve my picture quality. With your advices and with time it's even more accurate. Thank's a lot !
@MiRcO_303
@MiRcO_303 2 жыл бұрын
As a long time viewer of Mr. Teoh videos i've already enabled all these correct settings on my tv, and the result speaks for itself, the picture is jaw-dropping in every source i watch, amazing. I say this every time, Vincent you are really the best in the business! Wish you a very happy Christmas :)
@timm2824
@timm2824 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought an Xbox series X and a LG C1. This guy is an amazing educator on a topic that most people including myself just don't have access to. I've liked and subscribed out of pure respect for his knowledge and willingness to share it
@KaelumKrispr
@KaelumKrispr 2 жыл бұрын
All this stuff is great advice and a good resource to show people who don't get why I want to play around with their TV settings, except for motion smoothing I know it's not perfect and even can destroy certain animated shows but 24 FPS just causes me to feel motion sick and get a headache
@sarielle85
@sarielle85 Жыл бұрын
Same here. In fast pace scenes I also don't perceive the pictures as movement anymore, but as individual pictures, because they vary too much from one another in 24 fps.
@--legion
@--legion 6 ай бұрын
It's not 'great advice'. The whole point of options/customisation is personal preference. If I want sharpening (essential for SD content), I'll sharpen. If I want smooth motion (which I do), then I'll not take advice from a 24fps diehard.
@KaelumKrispr
@KaelumKrispr 6 ай бұрын
@@--legion I don't like 24fps, I much prefer smother motion even if it leaves visual artifacts, I didn't know where you got the "24fps diehard" from, even in my original message it says I get motion sick from it
@--legion
@--legion 6 ай бұрын
@@KaelumKrispr I'm referring to the poster of this video and others like him. Those that refuse to accept 60fps is nearer human optics and therefore more natural, preferring instead to cling to the stuttering unnaturalness of 24fps. This 'advice' is defective.
@KaelumKrispr
@KaelumKrispr 6 ай бұрын
​@@--legionstill only one point ( that is his personal preference that he says is controversial ) in a fine video
@you2ber252
@you2ber252 Жыл бұрын
What I hate most is the color temperature setting, especially added to the habit of most manufacturers to not calibrate the colors and gamma of their TV in factory. You never know it the colors you're seeing are right unless you have a colorimeter and know how to properly measure them. And also I hate when some PQ settings are on by default, and even more when they cannot be fully disabled (Samsung?).
@aussieexpat
@aussieexpat 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the table of neutral sharpness levels. I always leave it at default in fear that lower is actually adding blur.
@michaelwyckoff7593
@michaelwyckoff7593 2 жыл бұрын
Usually default is about 20
@PotentChr0nic
@PotentChr0nic 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone confirm if TCL's neutral is a 50 (like Sony) or a 0 on its Android TVs?
@michaelwyckoff7593
@michaelwyckoff7593 2 жыл бұрын
@@PotentChr0nic I have my sharpness on 20 on my TCL Roku tvs. I have the temperature setting on warm which I just recently changed from normal. Warm 50 must be a default setting. Adjust it to suit your taste that's all I can think of.
@No_Mikey_No
@No_Mikey_No 2 жыл бұрын
I have an older SONY Bravia TV, by default reading the manual I though that setting all options to max would be the best option but I had problems with the image and it didn't look right. I decided to give it some time until I were used to it as I was changing from an old tube TV but I wasn't able to get used to it. So one day I decided to disable Sharpness, Noise Reduction, Motion Smoothing, Display Area to Full Pixel and setting Color Temperature to Neutral the image imrpoved a lot and it looked like a new TV! It seems that I was doing the right choice without knowing!
@dash3dot
@dash3dot 2 жыл бұрын
Why for the love of God would you think setting everything to maximum would the the best option? What was the logic behind it?! Depressing really...
@space0015
@space0015 2 жыл бұрын
You are like going all in or all out
@bokuboke482
@bokuboke482 Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the LOL "hot spot" joke at 5:45! Also for giving viewers in-depth reviews of modern displays. Have you considered reviewing the better/best CRTs from an earlier era of home entertainment?
@minameaar1
@minameaar1 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, will use this when I buy my new television. I absolutely abhor motion smoothing and always turn it off whenever I visit a hotel.
@Vladi_AK47
@Vladi_AK47 2 жыл бұрын
I recently joined LG C1 family and this channel has been a boon of information for someone who hasn’t dealt with TVs since 90s. Thank you for your knowledge and your work into making these videos, Mr Vincent. Best of luck to you!
@jo54763
@jo54763 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that blur smoothing feels worse because of the nature of interpolation and not inherently because of the smoothness itself. Like you mentioned, the interpolation is creating artificial frames that can lend to some really odd visuals. In my opinion, that's what gives it the cheap smartphone camera feel. I think smoothness in of itself (aka fps + display refresh rate, I guess?) has its own strengths, though it definitely isn't preferable to 24 frames in cinema. Video in 60fps is very good for conveying objective information, for example.
@iris4547
@iris4547 2 жыл бұрын
you pose a valid point. personally i find it difficult to watch 24fps content on a monitor (projection in cinema is fine) so I use SVP on my pc to play everything back at 60/72fps with frame interpolation. i definitely notice the artifacts, but to me they are the lesser evil to the headache inducing stutter that is inherent to such a low frame rate of 24, especially in panning scenes. the ideal scenario is films like the hobbit or gemini man that are actually filmed at higher frame rate, so the benefits are there without the artifacting. one would assume it is possible to film at say 48fps and then playback at 24 for those that prefer it, though i have no idea as to the extra cost this would add to production. all the other settings mentioned in this video i agree with though. i prefer to keep the image as close to original as possible. the noise reduction one is a massive pet peeve of mine as it gives this dream like ghosting quality.
@JavierYunes
@JavierYunes 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but 24p looks awful to me. I still have to find one person IRL that doesn't like smoothing.
@LRM12o8
@LRM12o8 2 жыл бұрын
I can totally agree that artificial smoothing creates problems. However, I hate that cinema is still 24fps. In fast fighting scenes, it's impossible to actually see the choreography (it's just blurred limbs) and when I see a stuttery or blurry camera pan, I often get slightly dizzy. I think people only view smooth framerates as "cheap" because they're so used to only cheaper TV productions using them. Doubling or quadrupling the framerate would be a much more meaningful improvement to image quality (and require less resources) than bumping up the resolution from 4k to 8k, imo. It just doesn't make any sense to me that a smoother framerate would make a camerafilmed movie look less realistic/immersive. We don't see the real world in just 24fps either! I understand that for animated movies, the timing of the animations are more important than the framerate and that higher framerate might make poor animations look less realistic (though I don't know of any PC game that has this problem, so...), but with camerafilmed movies, the only small problems I could see with having higher framerate are that they don't mask bad fighting choreographies and that CGI is gonna be a bit more difficult to make look realistic, because more frames need to be rendered for it. But both of those are probably we should expect the movie industry to be able to easily overcome.
@kazioo2
@kazioo2 2 жыл бұрын
@@LRM12o8 The best solution that is well known and successfully used in the animation industry for many decades (and recently famously in the Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse) is hybrid framerates. For live action we would need to have camera motion at 48 FPS or more (for prefect panning without judder) and leave most of other things at 24 FPS (but not necessarily everything) to keep the dreamy look that allows the brain to fill in the gaps in a pleasing way. However this is technically non-trivial to achieve with live action and requires costly post processing work. I think Cameron even talked about this concept years ago when discussing Avatar 2.
@stewie3128
@stewie3128 2 жыл бұрын
@@JavierYunes Found one here. Motion smoothing is of the devil. I surreptitiously turn it off on extended family's tvs. No one has noticed.
@SpacedOutDoonie
@SpacedOutDoonie 5 ай бұрын
Good breakdown. Too bad I only use my tv for background noise with a cheap antenna that only works good for like 5 channels
@nathanpollard1223
@nathanpollard1223 Жыл бұрын
I still find overscan useful, as I watch some content (particularly sport) which has stuff in the way, but only on the border area, meaning the overscan does an excellent job of taking the bad stuff out whilst retaining almost the whole image. The newest (& best) TV in the house doesn't have overscan (it has live zoom, which's great & much more useful, but the minimum zoom's 110%), & it can be a slight pain to deal with. The newest TV has a sports filter, which looks fucking terrible on HD broadcasts, but works really nicely for low-quality Internet streams. What's really cool about this, is that only a tiny percentage of viewers'd watch much sports content with such poor picture quality (at least those who use 55" 4K sets), & yet I get to reap the benefits of it (it's like the filter was designed with my niche viewing experience in mind). I do wonder if the filter's a relic of the past, but that seems unlikely, partially due to the evolution the technogies behind TV pictures have gone through.
@irfkaptan
@irfkaptan 2 жыл бұрын
Hello my dear Vincent! You are a gem, thank you very much for all the knowledge and videos in the past. I really enjoy your content and always recommend it to friends and family. It’s a shame that so many people have capable TVs and never get to enjoy the fullest experience possible… I’m still on my 55“ SONY XE9305 from 2018 and it was the best decision thank to your review back then! (🙌🏻) 😘👍🏻 It is still a very capable TV and i enjoy it alot, especially with my PlayStation 5. THANK YOU and i wish you all the best and happy holidays to you and your family! ❤️
@callumshell
@callumshell 2 жыл бұрын
I personally use motion smoothing on my LG OLED but only set to 1, the lowest setting. I'm one of these people who is very susceptible to motion, I find the rainbow effect on DLP projectors very annoying when none of my friends notice it at all, so watching a digitally shot movie at native 24p can sometimes give me a headache. "1917" is probably the worst offender, it felt like watching a slideshow. The judder with no smoothing is horrible, and so is smoothing set too high. I find smoothing on the lowest setting to be the lesser of two evils.
@TNSign
@TNSign 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I usually set it to 1 or 2 on my Sony. Can't stand judder.
@masarothgames
@masarothgames Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you. I pretty much had everything set the way you suggested - the sharpest which I always had somewhere in the middle so I will try it your way.
@vidiupload4174
@vidiupload4174 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your clear instructions and also for your deadpan humor!
@MarinaKalle
@MarinaKalle 2 жыл бұрын
Man, this video has been AN EDUCATION for me. Thank you so much!!! Have had a beautiful Samsung 4K TV for a few months now after having had a rather crappy HD Tv for 10 odd years. The upgrade has been great but I really struggled with the screen settings and could never get it quite right yet. This video is awesome and I love the FILMMAKER MODE. I'm never going back 😂 Thank you!!!!
@ubayyd
@ubayyd 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, this is super eye-opening.
@Humanimal117
@Humanimal117 2 жыл бұрын
Ya my tv settings were total crap and I never knew it lol. My eyes feel so much better now.
@TJ.1
@TJ.1 2 жыл бұрын
I can agree to all what u said excluding 1. Smoothness (soap opera ) is a must specially bigger screens. I dont how you can say turn it off with a straight face. Maybe some humans eyes are different from another, for me when i turn it off it gives me headaches and i feel im watching it on a very cheap screen.
@dash3dot
@dash3dot 2 жыл бұрын
Smoothness is a joke not a must. It's the opposite if you turn in on everything turns into cheap amateurish piece of shit. No, thanks.
@Kyleplier
@Kyleplier 6 ай бұрын
I myself run with all these settings off including motion interpolation. As I’m sensitive to overshoot among other things, and I end up seeing all the motion artifacts it introduces. I also run with Warm 50 on my 65”LG C2 OLED.
@jayzn1931
@jayzn1931 5 ай бұрын
I can not agree on the soap opera effect and have gotten so used to the smoothing of an older Samsung tv, I don‘t want to watch movies without it. I t hurts my eyes to watch movies in 24fps. I don’t know exactly why but in the cinema I never have a big problem with that. Either the projectors are doing something different or it has been more than 24fps in a few movies I watched, like Avatar 2. with most of the rest I agree. If I could I would also use filmmakermode, sound great! 😊
@HullRupture
@HullRupture 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest crime is labelling D65 colour temp standard as a warm setting!
@lemsdk17
@lemsdk17 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this cold vs warm i swear that on my screen the cold displays snow as white and the warm displayed snow with slight pee in it?
@Creelick67
@Creelick67 2 жыл бұрын
This is where people get hung up. You can have a set calibrated to D65 and still have it appear "cooler" if that's what the director intends.
@hansiangng2808
@hansiangng2808 2 жыл бұрын
@@lemsdk17 LOL nice 1
@AndehX
@AndehX 2 жыл бұрын
@@lemsdk17 This is the problem I have with warmer temperatures. Cold always makes whites look WHITE, whereas warm, makes whites look slightly yellow.
@eddiemin4312
@eddiemin4312 2 жыл бұрын
This is a lie that the TV manufactures have to keep going because of all the horrible things they started doing since the dawn of HDTVs. Flat panels were crap and expensive back then so they had to cheat to make them seem decent. Everything was way too cool to make them seem brighter and they turned up the contrast and saturation to make it pop. Unfortunately they conditioned the public into believing that this is what looks good
@ana-vi4ok
@ana-vi4ok 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if he covered this but on my Samsung tv I have an option for Shadow detail which was set a 2 . I turned it down to -4 which made dark scenes look great. Before dark scenes were grainy and had white shadows .
@juhoturunen
@juhoturunen 2 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with filmmaker mode. At first it looked strange, but after a while...wow. There is no going back.
@flyabusa
@flyabusa 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. On #5 Color Temperature, the snow you said looked more realistic in the video on the right actually looked yellow and fake to me, while the snow in the video on the left looked pristine and white, I wasn't seeing any blue hue there at all.
@mutashimbillah2274
@mutashimbillah2274 Жыл бұрын
The video on the left look bluish to my eyes. Its because your eyes is accustomed to bluish look. And you must know that light from the sun is look little bit yellow, so the video on the right is more accurate and more realistic
@Dave004
@Dave004 Жыл бұрын
I agree, i'd shoot for somewhere in the middle of those two, maybe slightly closer to the right screen because the faces looked more realistic, but the snow was yellow. So maybe Warm 30 or so is a good middle ground vs going all the way to 50
@rolebole6978
@rolebole6978 Жыл бұрын
For me to. In my Eyes it looks mutch better than warm 50. The Right Picture isnt white.
@Herobox-ju4zd
@Herobox-ju4zd 3 ай бұрын
True, this man obviously has never seen snow.
@voicemxil
@voicemxil Ай бұрын
The camera exaggerates it. Cool hue looks horrendous IRL
@ajha100
@ajha100 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent, even when I disagree with your recommendations (rare, but we are all human, and motion smoothing is niiiice), I can’t help but be impressed by your logic - and your humor. Keep up the excellent work.
@camarykaren
@camarykaren 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the overscan tip ,I cant believe both of my LG tv had it on. I disable the one on my Sony . Also, I leave motion smoothing on,very low, otherwise I'll be a puking mess. Sorry Vincent n Tom. Thanks as always for your effort n time.
@felixvictoriano7747
@felixvictoriano7747 5 ай бұрын
this video was not only very very informational, but also incredibly entertaining and funny as hell😂 kudos to you man, definitely subscribed and now my go-to channel for tv related stuff
@abugaliyev
@abugaliyev 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate your approach. I hate these settings, especially Motion Smoothing, that really makes film looking like a video shot on a cheap smartphone. I always switch of this setting (True Motion) when I have to deal with a new TV set.
@jhors7777
@jhors7777 5 ай бұрын
Entertaining and informative, thanks so much!
@jamesrevell6475
@jamesrevell6475 2 жыл бұрын
I've learned not to say anything when at people's homes when I notice a bad picture on their television. Most people think it comes from the factory with the settings set to optimal. On several occasions I think I may have offended people when I suggest they adjust their picture. To this day I still go to some peoples homes and they have the picture set to zoom on an HD channel. Just this past weekend I visited my sister's home where they have an enormous 80 inch 4k UHDTV. The first thing I noticed was how dark the picture was and the strong blue tint. To me the picture was unwatchable but I certainly didn't say that. I mentioned that maybe they should try the warm picture setting. Pretty sure that pissed off my brother in law. When I mentioned they should try streaming some 4k content from Netflix or get a 4k UHDTV bluray player to really appreciate their new tv, I could feel a chill in the room. My brother stopped by my house and noticed I had LOR 4k steelbook. He asked if he could borrow it and I asked if he had a 4k bluray player. "Fine, I don't want to watch the stupid movie anyway" was his reply. I'm learning to just keep my mouth shut.
@ASA-kq5bz
@ASA-kq5bz 2 жыл бұрын
Same here 😀
@aleksitiikkala
@aleksitiikkala 2 жыл бұрын
I just adjust my friends' and family's TV sets without asking when they don't notice. Nobody has complained yet.
@pyeltd.5457
@pyeltd.5457 2 жыл бұрын
Just turn the colour to 0 and have a nice Black and White colour
@koncorde
@koncorde 2 жыл бұрын
The one that gets me is the "dynamic contrast". We were watching Daredevil on Netflix and couldn't see a thing so often we just criticised the maker. Finally I went into my TV settings, and stumbled across DC - suddenly we could see everything. I ended up turning most things off because I realise they were just artificially trying to tidy stuff up. Meanwhile one set of my parents are watching TV with blue skinned people, and the other is watching videos were white has a pink tint and I can't fix them without them complaining. Drives me insane.
@Turom
@Turom 2 жыл бұрын
X-Motion Clarity is what I use on my Sony. (Smooth 2, Clearness 1), the Black Frame insertion properly emulates the motion you see in a theatre without making the image look like a stuttery mess like it usually does on modern panels @24p. Sony does it right.
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 2 жыл бұрын
I use black frame insertion on my C1 as well. I'm dialing the djutter and the motion smoothing seperately or use a preset. I use 8 and 8 on each out of 10. Definite sweet spot for my eyes. To get some hands on time with a newer Sony to compare.
@stefanlasser6535
@stefanlasser6535 2 жыл бұрын
Smooth 2 is in fact already Motion Interpolation 😏
@anguineus_vir
@anguineus_vir 2 жыл бұрын
Smooth 2 already adds a little bit of soap opera effect, I prefer Smooth 1
@kevinatkab5219
@kevinatkab5219 2 жыл бұрын
@@anguineus_vir unfortunately, you can't use BFI with HDR because of the brightness reduction it causes.
@jackwilson5542
@jackwilson5542 2 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer smoother videos/movies, it is definitely a contentious topic. The newer movies are shot on digital cameras anyways, so the genuine film argument falls flat. (Maybe for some old classics you should disable it, but for me 60 fps is way to go) Why would a 60fps camera look cheaper when compared to 24fps one?
@bena3341
@bena3341 Жыл бұрын
This is definitely subjective to what you are watching. I watch a lot of outdoors content and motion smoothing is definitely needed.
@dappledsunshine
@dappledsunshine Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining what the "soap opera" effect is. I've seen several folks mention it and you're the first to explain it!! Respectfully disagree on the color temperature thing though. Snow is only yellowy when it's peed on or otherwise dirty LOL. Snow, in nature, actually does have the slightest blue tint and if you look at snow shadows on a sunny day, they have a blue tint, not a grey or "greige" warm tint... Plus, considering natural sunlight is a cool 6000+K color, it means that cooler = closer to nature, unless you're watching an indoor scene lit by fire or incandescently; then I could get behind switching to a warmer tint for movies filmed in that kind of lighting only... (Although to be fair, I'm from Florida, and the sky really is that blue on clear days, especially during winter months it gets that incredibly deep and vibrant hue) Definitely agree on all other points though!
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 2 жыл бұрын
When I watch movies on Blu-ray and 4K UHD disc I can handle film grain because that is part of the cinematic look the Filmmakers are going for which comes from shooting on film stock but what I can't handle is digital noise where the image has kinda like mosquito noise which is not part of the cinematic look and shows up on camera when ISO is to high.
@soylencer
@soylencer 2 жыл бұрын
Sony has a somewhat capable, specific, Digital Noise reduction feature. it looks for the cubic noise, not grain.
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Netflix is especially bad for "visual snow" and you'd want some of those filters on when watching some streaming sites for certain.
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 2 жыл бұрын
@@90lancaster That's why I prefer physical media to get the best and highest picture quality but sometimes digital noise is apparent on some modern films which can look quite ugly because of the mosquito noisy picture it brings.
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 2 жыл бұрын
@@soylencer That's the thing you don't want to scrub any detail away of the image but want the mosquito digital noise removed not film grain.
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeginsWithTheEnd That's more to do with video compression, sharpening the picture won't bring out detail because the image is muddy looking to begin with by sharpening it you can't bring out more detail, resolution really gives you detail, which is why you don't sharpen on 1080p or 4K content on disc, streaming platforms compress their movies and shows even on the higher resolutions.
@JohnDoe-xe3cj
@JohnDoe-xe3cj 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent, I've been reading and watching your reviews for over 10 years, and want to thank you for the great content. Would love to know which colorimeter or other device for screen calibration you recommend for home use.
@scottpilgrim2
@scottpilgrim2 2 жыл бұрын
Just changed these settings but i'm left with contrast I don't know what I would best set it on. Looks so much better already though. Thanks a lot.
@muhammadhasib8531
@muhammadhasib8531 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of those settings. THANKS....
@louf7178
@louf7178 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I've already been changing these setrings because it just looks more realistic. It may not be as brilliant, but that is just for side-by-side shelf wars (to get the sale). With these settings, the pictures are quite good, even on economy level TV's.
@RAHelllord
@RAHelllord 2 жыл бұрын
Overscan and Noise reduction do still have their places, but only on the analog input. I found them quite useful for improving picture quality for my retro consoles before I could get a proper analog to digital converter with better results than the TV.
@johnrussell3961
@johnrussell3961 2 жыл бұрын
We are analog. At some point digital has to become analog.....and that process often creates a load of crap.
@RAHelllord
@RAHelllord 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnrussell3961 Yeah but my games are digital and going from digital to analog to digital is pretty hard without a degredation in quality, at least if you're a TV manufacturer trying to bring a 4k TV to market for less than 300 bucks.
@johnrussell3961
@johnrussell3961 2 жыл бұрын
RAHelllord . Your eyes are analog, as are your ears. We evolved in an analog world. We are not happy if digital media does not stimulate us the same way as analog. Few are going to suffer because they are told digital is perfect. They will use their own eyes , and ears to judge that..
@RAHelllord
@RAHelllord 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnrussell3961 Yes, but a supbar conversion along the chain can still introduce noise due to cheap components and bad algorithms. My Retrotink 5x Pro is capable of doing that conversion without a loss in quality before it gets displayed on the TV. Which was my point, it can have a purpose to help deal with noise introduced by cheap hardware.
@johnrussell3961
@johnrussell3961 2 жыл бұрын
RAHelllord . I think you will find most people complaining have very expensive LG oleds. I have a C9.
@drooelrey4898
@drooelrey4898 2 жыл бұрын
Most grateful for the MAGNIFICENT work! My good sir.
@kyt8863
@kyt8863 Жыл бұрын
It's a great and very informative video. I hope those who have everything cranked to 11 and "fit to screen" watch and learn from this
@UnintendedStudios
@UnintendedStudios 2 жыл бұрын
I struggle with switching my color temp all the time. White looks so much more natural being colder. But I do like the way colors look being warmer.
@GleepVonReticuli
@GleepVonReticuli 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about the colours. As someone who lives in the middle of snowy mountains I find the colder image more realistic. The problem is that if the film maker has applied a weird colour filter on the image, whitening correctly the snow will crush the whites of the whole picture. It's tricky.
@nweeezy
@nweeezy Жыл бұрын
i agree
@Steevo69
@Steevo69 Жыл бұрын
Snowmobile enough back country and I have only seen yellow snow when I pee
@postboy2242
@postboy2242 Жыл бұрын
How? It makes snow blue, you know snow isn't blue.
@SwedenTheHedgehog
@SwedenTheHedgehog Жыл бұрын
@@postboy2242 Snow actually does have a slightly blue hue, especially when you see light streaming through it from above. If you’ve ever build a snow cave on a sunny day, you’ll know that it’s certainly not clinically white.
@alondite215
@alondite215 Жыл бұрын
Warmer settings are measurably more accurate.
@PringleLee
@PringleLee 5 ай бұрын
02:15 for those with older samsung smart tv's the sharpness range is 0-100 and not 0-20 like the newer one's. So in that case apparently neutral sharpness is 20/100 not 0. If you have a newer one then it's 0 02:48 Noise reduction seems to be called Digital Clean View on the older samsung smart tv's 04:51 motion smoothing, aka auto motion plus 08:45 warm 50 on LG Warm 2 for Samsung
@sj460162
@sj460162 2 ай бұрын
Great video Vincent. And motion smoothing can cause stutter aswell, why is this? The warm setting for snow was deffo better.
@EpicureMammon
@EpicureMammon 2 жыл бұрын
Me: "I don't know-- that warm looks *too* warm." Also me: looks at the clock and realizes that my computer is in night mode.
@tiduskiller95
@tiduskiller95 2 жыл бұрын
Question 🙋 It’s about live sport, do we still need everything off? Or is it better to add some adjustments with noise reduction etc? Thanks a lot 🙏 PS: by the way I’ve a LG CX for almost one year know and I mostly use the expert mode (light during the day with 85 lum and dark at night with 40 of lum). When I play blu ray films or series I switch to filmmaker mode with 25 lum and no light in the room. I agree with everything you said since I’ve tested almost everything for 1 year.
@peite7878
@peite7878 Жыл бұрын
I discovered a practical use for Motion Smoothing - When exercising to exercise or dance videos on KZbin it can be difficult to follow the person in natural video motion, but with MS on you can be on the floor looking in the corner of your eye or jump around and still take notice to how you should do the moves properly, thanks to the LG L1 converting 60fps content to 120fps.
@nickgee7291
@nickgee7291 2 жыл бұрын
SO useful!! thanks for specifying samsung setting names
@EhurtAfy
@EhurtAfy 2 жыл бұрын
As the person who disables motion smoothing and sharpening on all my friends tv's, I only disagree with the color temperature, I much prefer a cooler temperature. I don't disagree with the information, just my personal preference. The snow example from LOTR looked yellow and unrealistic to me on my calibrated monitor, whereas the cooler temperature looked lifelike albeit being slightly too cool. Every time I go to the theater, the color feels too warm and dull
@SaltCollecta
@SaltCollecta 2 жыл бұрын
Cretin.
@WarningStrangerDanger
@WarningStrangerDanger 2 жыл бұрын
Cool color is worse for the eyes in low light, because blue light doesn't trigger the pupillary reflex and can result in overly opened pupils harming the retina.
@FFXIV_Story_Videos_Deutsch
@FFXIV_Story_Videos_Deutsch 2 жыл бұрын
Correct color temperature is not about personal preferences. Its about "how its meant do be".
@WalterEKurtz-kp2jf
@WalterEKurtz-kp2jf 2 жыл бұрын
@@SaltCollecta No need for that
@EhurtAfy
@EhurtAfy 2 жыл бұрын
@@FFXIV_Story_Videos_Deutsch If the very vague "how it's meant to be" means "industry standard" then I agree with you. D65 is meant to provide consistency during the color correction process, not perfect realism. Not every movie uses D65, many use different whitepoints and D65 only represents the average daylight temperature at Noon. Further, most movies make use of color grading after the color correction process. The movie Twilight is far too blue to be realistic, but it was the director's signature color grading. Michael Bay similarly uses a strong color grading in the Transformers movies.
@TeieHellum
@TeieHellum 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure I agree with the colour temperature on your example from LOTR. In my opinion the snow with low colour temperature looks more realistic if it is portraying high mountain, freshly fallen snow. The warmer colour looks more like old snow, perhaps even tainted by city pollution. I am a Norwegian, by the way, so I have seen my share of different types of snow.
@holger951159
@holger951159 Жыл бұрын
I would describe it as watching with sunglasses on
@RobStevens64
@RobStevens64 2 жыл бұрын
The trick with a lot of these things is that you don’t really ever get to do these side-by-side comparisons, and it often shows the trade offs you make. For example, the ‘snow’ example used to show the ‘correct’ setting for color temperate left me conflicted. Unlike what Vincent said, I felt the snow looks more realistic in the Cool setting. But skin looks more realistic in the Warm setting. But would I have noticed the slightly yellow snow in Warm had I not seen the difference side by side? Would my eyes adapt over time?
@oxstorm644
@oxstorm644 Жыл бұрын
you're just used to watching things in cool, or the monitor you're watching on is too warm. Objectively, the picture colour is more accurate and eye strain is prevented when using the correct temperature settings.
@SwedenTheHedgehog
@SwedenTheHedgehog Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you that snow (among other things, also metals and some shiny materials) does(/do) not look right on Warm settings. I don’t know if this is different in different places, i.e. at different latitudes; but snow up here close to the Arctic Circle definitely never looks orange-y.
@oxstorm644
@oxstorm644 Жыл бұрын
​@@SwedenTheHedgehog are we watching the same video? everything's too blue and sterile on "cool" settings. on warm, the snow is still bright white but the colours are deeper and more natural
@SwedenTheHedgehog
@SwedenTheHedgehog Жыл бұрын
@@oxstorm644 If you by "bright white" mean "sun bleached-looking yellow", then sure. There is nothing natural about the color of the snow nor the skin colors (at 7:52 for example), with the "Warm" setting.
@simbaeostres7274
@simbaeostres7274 Жыл бұрын
@@SwedenTheHedgehog Except people forget this is a movie production not 100% natural, for the color setting of this movie the skins and everything else is natural by its context with warm
@donkhuzy2897
@donkhuzy2897 3 күн бұрын
I struggled with gaming on my Samsung tv default settings cuz it made my eyes hurt a lot. I then changed the settings to make it warmer, look natural, and also lighten the dark parts (default settings makes shadows look too dark and over sharpens the lighter areas). Some days later, it started to recognize my PC and unlock a ‘graphics picture mode’. That’s what I use automatically now. I love it
@E.L.RipleyAtNostromo
@E.L.RipleyAtNostromo 2 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent presentation, thank you. One note, I set each of these OFF as you went through them on my LG, but at the end when I selected Filmmaker Mode, the Sharpness reset to 10%. (?). I went ahead and reset it to zero, otherwise all the other settings went to your suggestions. FYI, on my LG I believe the motion smoothing is called “TruMotion” which I verified as OFF, and the new Color option for Filmmaker mode is “Warm 2” which is a 50% color. Thanks for the tips, and I will check your other videos as I’m getting a new LG C1 soon.
@canadeplorable2893
@canadeplorable2893 2 ай бұрын
I'm wondering about the sharpness level as well.
@owwmykneecap
@owwmykneecap 2 жыл бұрын
Motion smoothing on the C1 is a funny one because sometimes it's great and subtle. Other times it's so obvious. I've been watching Hawkeye on the D+ app with Dolby Vision etc and I'm using it with out of the box settings and it looks great so far. Need to get it and start playing around with it but when I can find some time.
@drewb242
@drewb242 2 жыл бұрын
​@@BeginsWithTheEnd I use cinematic movement for pretty much every tv show and movie I watch, Vincent even talked about judder when watching 24hz content on the C1 in his review. Very much agree with your last two sentences.
@busterscrugs
@busterscrugs 2 жыл бұрын
Use Cinema or Cinema Home for Dolby Vision content. Looks much better.
@huihuihuibuh
@huihuihuibuh 2 жыл бұрын
I own the CX and even if the Motion Interpolation is improved with the newer C1 I really think its doing a good job with cinema clear. Maybe a little too much. Yes, 24p is the standard and I call myself a purist but 24fps on consumer OLED is not the golden standard in my opinion. Yes, we all hate SOE, but with these sample-and-hold-dislays 24 fps would not be the industry standard anymore if we wouldnt already have one. You have to compensate that the screen is not flickering anymore. So I want the movie-feel induced by realistic motion blur. But 24 fps on Oled does not look like 24 fps on a crt or old school movie projector. In every other aspect the filmmaker mode is what we need!
@krautisfilmundgamingkanal2940
@krautisfilmundgamingkanal2940 6 ай бұрын
I would recommend not to get the sharpness complete down. On my switch and ps4 it’s then blurry. Keep it on a Lower value like 4
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 Жыл бұрын
Really Great info brother! thank you! The soap opera effect at 60fps with motion smoothing is quite a horrendous destruction of any immersive cinematic experience! the irony is that some souls actually think its heightened the scenes? to each his own then! new sub gained
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