He Can't Get Away With This...

[@evilazirawaffle]

I love Good Omens written by Terry Pratchett and Miku

[@ferretskulls]

This is why I only invest time into FICTIONAL ROBOT SINGERS. They do no wrong

[@DameVonBonDaisy]

You can enjoy the art, and dislike the artist.. just sayin

[@selfryed]

miku is a real one fr

[@ghoultooth]

⁠@@DameVonBonDaisyWhile that’s true, supporting the art is also supporting the artist. No matter how you twist it.

[@sleazy_7386]

@@DameVonBonDaisyonce stuff like this happens, it just kinda leaves a weird spot in the back of your head. Then it feels weird enjoying the art knowing about its artist’s history.

[@Wuwt6450]

It’s not even don’t meet your heroes anymore, just don’t have heroes.

[@dominicfucinari1942]

Episode #1112, Imaginationland Episode III, had a good point. As long as the human species exists, imaginary characters will have more influence on people's lives than any real people a given civilization is familiar with. And it's far more likely for imaginary characters to have good moral compasses and be immune to moral corruption.

[@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf]

Or you could have better heroes.

[@MENACE-km6bd]

Be your own hero. That's what I've learned. Be the best version of yourself you can be; some you know well and can be proud of.

[@joannamarieart]

@@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolfthe point here is that everyone who followed Neil Gaiman thought he was a good hero, because he successfully silenced his victims and portrayed a very very exceptional persona for a long time. Him being a dirtbag was in fact an extreme shock to nearly every one of his fans.

[@Wuwt6450]

@@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf wow how reductive and uninformed, maybe just be nicer in the future yeah?

[@thefancybarbieharlequin]

Congratulations Neil Gaiman! You have lost trust to a bunch of goth moms!

[@Salli_Flier]

As a goth (not a mom) who just reread the graveyard book I agree.

[@DameVonBonDaisy]

And not goth, I'm punk 😅

[@selfryed]

and queer teens 😭😭😭!

[@baffledbat]

@@selfryedFrr I’m hurt

[@sneepsnorp1404]

​@selfryed love your pfp. Did you paint that??

[@Apologist0]

I love Good Omens, can't believe Terry Pratchett did that all by himself. A true genuine he was 👏. May he rest in peace

[@ShinyHunterOctavia]

Especially when also writing other great works like the bromeliad trilogy (aka me pushing my bromeliad trilogy agenda)

[@culltik]

@@ShinyHunterOctavia WHICH YOU SHOULD ALWAYS DO! And the Wee Free Men AAAND The Carpet People AANNNND The Discworld series as a whole

[@Addy-ve1yc]

I know right! what a talented man he was!

[@ルシラムス]

GNU

[@floraposteschild4184]

And even writing and producing from beyond the grave. Truly multi-talened.

[@pinkrebellionxyz1567]

Shout out to laika studios for coming up with the Coraline story all by themselves ☝🏽

[@maemadl54]

Shoutout to Henry Selick for coming up with Coraline!!! Just him!!!!

[@dominicfucinari1942]

One of the best films of 009, the year before McClung looks like he was born. That bell from Termina's clock tower dates back 9 1/2 years before McClung's alias' DOB.

[@angl3rfysh]

​@@dominicfucinari1942 louis is like 20 😭 def born before 2009

[@MalescoM]

LAIKA is antiunion and was founded by rich capitalists who discarded Will Vinton.

[@RexeDraws]

​@@dominicfucinari1942 bro is not 14-

[@isacocca3187]

That moment when the author who inspired me to be creative and made me accept myself turns out to be a horrible person ಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ

[@ferretskulls]

I’ll be your new acceptance-inspirer! Accept yourself! Be creative! Yay!!

[@mahcrossaint8920]

felt but its ok better authors r there

[@ferretskulls]

@@mahcrossaint8920 like jk Rowling! /j

[@isacocca3187]

@@ferretskulls yoo thank youu, i have a new mentore now 😎

[@ferretskulls]

@@isacocca3187 oh god

[@That0neCrow]

Men try not to abuse their power challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) rip good omens

[@Popsicledad]

Real, Most impossible challenge

[@scottmacconnell592]

That's how I'm feeling about Dead Boy Detectives. Predators ruin everything

[@elliee884]

@@scottmacconnell592 I was once watching an animated show and I was like, wow this is a pretty good fun show and it’s got some queer representation (the female main character has a crush on a girl)! But it only had one season so when I googled it to find out why, I was informed that it got cancelled because the woman who created it was a p€do and I was like “yeah good call, don’t let this creep keep making children’s content, or any content for that matter”. I was still kinda disappointed that a good show was cancelled, but I would’ve been upset if they hadn’t, especially because a creep in that position has the power to but some dangerous messages into kids minds, even more so when they show itself centered around a child going through puberty and that opens to door for creeps to sneak in all kinds of worrying things

[@Lutoria99]

Also the amount of male PDFILES that are celebrities/ in positions of power is terrifying

[@tvgamer_]

@@scottmacconnell592wait what!?

[@laceyy146]

his work literally changed my life, now even hearing his name makes me sick. why can't celebrities keep their hands to themselves??

[@WilliamBrowning]

Hierarchical structures. You're still allowed to enjoy the art if you choose to.

[@KingOfGaymes]

@@WilliamBrowningThe thing while you can still enjoy the art, learning that the creator of said art is awful really taints it for a lot of people.

[@AtlisDe]

​@@KingOfGaymes yeah, separating art from the artist is hard especially if they're not some person from way before your time.

[@coralineramsay7091]

not to mention how he's been blaming his autism for 'not understanding social cues' aka ignoring the lack of consent/obvious signs of nonconsent by these women and many others

[@Wreniffer]

yeah don’t rope us in with you bro we don’t want you

[@amelia7082]

this would be a semi-ok answer if he did it ONCE. it wouldn't be an excuse but it would explain the reason. but he did it multiple times so it can't be a mistake anymore cuz like come on...

[@Neurodivergentfurry]

​@amelia7082IM SORRY- thats not a "semi-ok" apolgy People with autism KNOW that this needs consent Coming from a person with autism

[@katerrinah5442]

Yeah I don't get social cues but I've never misinterpreted them to the point I get in the shower with someone I've just met and pressure them to cuddle me 🫠. It's actually me not picking up that my mum is hinting for me to stop talking about Chernobyl again

[@naryavardariannalps]

@@katerrinah5442 real autism is annoying people HARMLESSLY with your special interests. anything else is just criminal defence a lawyer comes up with and people who have no idea how neurodivergence works eat up. more often than not people with autism do not want to be touched or touch others. i get so angry when people use the "autism-defence" to get away with assaulting others, like i too have autism and i haven't been around the office groping anyone who doesn't run away fast enough.

[@kimotee5892]

the fact that Scarlet thought that she might have been misinterpreting something is absolutely heartbreaking, I hope she and all the women are doing well and get the justice they deserve

[@zhongliidonglii]

Im so so angry now. Bruh, WHY IS EVERYONE AN ISSUE Not bro having to change his own video title.

[@exolentexo-l]

REAL

[@Simon_Dunkaccino]

why can’t people be normal

[@CL0WNP4RTY]

@@Simon_DunkaccinoI’d argue normality doesn’t exist and is just a phrase used when people wanna ‘fit in’, so- *Why can’t people have morals.

[@Simon_Dunkaccino]

@@CL0WNP4RTY ah yeah my mistake, that’s a much better way to put it

[@beanii7339]

the system favors predators 😢

[@limea22]

The most heartbreaking headline I’ve ever seen

[@noelani.say.hiiiii]

Literally the day after I buy a copy of coraline and American gods. Neil Gaiman was my childhood and now this gets exposed??? Why can’t people just not fiddle with the kiddle/women???

[@notericforeman]

FUCK AMERICAN GODS

[@notericforeman]

As a lifelong Norse Pagan, FUCK AMERICAN GODS AND THAT FAKE BULLSHIT BOOK.

[@bramstokerfan]

Yay now you can return them

[@SophieRoseLive]

@@notericforeman sorry he was mean about your cult, the sexual assault is worse

[@Addy-ve1yc]

I literally read my grandma the dangerous alphabet a few days before

[@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061]

There is another level of hell in this. It's called, he said because he's autistic, this is why he had "trouble" reading signals from women to which, autistic people all recoiled and had massive words to say. Because he was in a long line of authors this year that sold out other NDs, making NDs like me feel sick that people would be so quick to perpetuate stereotypes about us as a defense for their indefensible. There is another podcast besides Tortise that covered the story. But the replies, etc make me feel a really huge welt of anger. First that he did it at all, second that he gaslit these women, and then the clear power differentials, and lastly his excuse of "But I'm autistic." selling out other autistic people.

[@sadpatheticbardboy]

HWTA THE FUCK bro I’m autistic but obviously I CNA FUCKING TELL WHEN A PERSON ISNT FEELING IT oh my fucking god I’m angry on this mf fr now

[@MysRyuza]

Though some autistic people may have trouble reading signals, they DO know that no means no. Not all of them behave the same because some of them actually can read signals depending on how clear the responses are or they can figure it out just fine. Dude is whole ass adult with a lot of time to figure it out. 💀

[@jodicaryn]

I read an article about this a few months ago. 😭🤬This is the most devastating crap ever. I've been reading his work for over 35 years. I am disgusted.

[@aithjawcraig9876]

I hate to break it to you man but you might not have many favorite writers left...

[@jodicaryn]

​@aithjawcraig9876 I mean, I don't really put any celebrities or authors on a pedestal, they're just people after all, but at the very least try not to be an actual piece of gr*pesh*t garbage. 😢

[@TheMrMojoRisin67]

Wow...hearing the phone call for myself just turned my stomach. He made himself so personable, especially on social media like Twitter and Tumblr. Goes to show you can't trust anyone in that sphere. And anyone in that sphere who is trying to be that buddy-buddy and close with fans are people you should avoid at all costs.

[@lunaria8024]

God damn it, not another one.

[@AUserYouMayKnow]

First Neil and then iskall :(

[@table2.0]

@@AUserYouMayKnowWHAT HAPPENED WITH ISKALL!?

[@FowlsNest]

Good Omens is now Terry Pratchett's work only I've decided

[@lisaa3957]

I feel like I can parse out which parts were written by neil gaiman and feel like he did not add much to my enjoyment of the book anyway. and why I refuse to touch season 2, it's just,,,,, worse

[@jonluoni1290]

Love how you both just rewrite history according to your feelings. Trump is doing that right now! Neil may be an asshole, but that doesn't change what was created. Stop being idiots. You are parroting horrid behavior.

[@theroyaljules39]

@@jonluoni1290 quietly pretending that a r-pist didn't write one of your favorite books is no where near comparable to censoring history on a national scale and to suggest that it is is just laughable

[@dominicfucinari1942]

@@jonluoni1290 Separating the art from the artist may be important, but I don't see how redacting credit from one of the co-creators, when the other is the only one who appears to have any moral compass, connects with Tronaldism.

[@parker4340]

@@jonluoni1290dude you do realise pretending a book or a show wasn’t made by someone horrible is COMPLETELY different to what trump is doing? It has no real world effects, everyone is still aware he wrote it. Don’t be an idiot mad conflate two completely different senario’s. Maybe someone was SA’ED and pretending it wasn’t written but him Makes them feel better.

[@theratthatgotyeeted]

Reminder that NDAs dont mean shit if something illegal is happening

[@MirellaDerks]

When is something illegal? .... Oh and while we are on it... Is the government law always up to date with everything? Like really 😄... #SlowPokes

[@theratthatgotyeeted]

@ what?

[@bee-t6x]

ive adored his books for years, i didnt realize he was controversial! 😢

[@notericforeman]

literally his Norse “history” book is controversial, i hate him.

[@Theangelchoir]

​@@notericforeman It is? How so? I didn't realise when I read it. It seemed fine to me

[@SpookiePossum]

​@@notericforeman okay now I wanna know.

[@zeeeerrroookoo]

I'm a woman in my mid twenties. I grew up on Neil Gayman's books, dreamt of meeting him someday to ask for some writing advice or whatever... and now I know that this man would probably use my admiration for him to his advantage

[@vibe_oli]

Yup so gross and infuriating.

[@shadowldrago]

Maybe I'm just a boring person, but, how hard is it to NOT abuse a position of power/fame?

[@noelloveslemmons]

LITERALLY. HOW HARD CAN IT BE!?!?! IF YOU HAVE A CONSCIENCE AT ALL, I'D THINK IT'S EASY AS SHIT, ACTUALLY.

[@shadowldrago]

@@noelloveslemmons You'd think it'd be the easiest thing in the world. Like, if I was That Rich, my life would not substantially change. I'd help some friends out financially, because I now have so much excess money, maybe I'd treat myself to some games/LEGOs I might otherwise hesitate to buy, I'd probably not be looking into a job, but I can guarantee you, I'd probably just mostly keep doing what I do now.

[@noelloveslemmons]

@shadowldrago Yup!!! I'd put a lot of it into charities, savings, and helping friends, too! It feels like the obvious answer???

[@shadowldrago]

@@noelloveslemmons Right?! I just, it's so dumb. it should be the easiest thing in the world to NOT be a total asshole.

[@artorhen]

How hard is it to not be a sexual deviant, which most people in Hollywood are? Apparently impossible

[@T1CKETYB00]

OH MY GOODNESS THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS. i cannot even begin to describe how devastating it was for me and all other good omens fans when the allegations came out

[@ava_marie_v]

When it first came out it was so frustrating because so many people were dismissing it because the news was broken by TERFs (which are absolutely shitty and I don't deny that). I felt like I was going crazy because I was horrified by it. It felt like the only people actually talking about it and taking it seriously were people in fan communities about his works.

[@stars_smartie]

I never really payed much attention at Neil himself but it was really saddening how it affected so many people in the Good Omens fandom around me and I can also assume in others as well. I just hope everyone is doing well since then

[@frogfelloww]

how funny seeing u in a comment section lol but YEAH dude im a huge good omens fan too and i was actually like so upset when this came out especially because i looked up to neil and held his work so dear to me

[@Allegro11Maestoso]

It was awful. It is awful. I mean, the whole situation is just so upsetting! Other fans and creators have found information on the status of the "paused" third and final GO season and basically, a couple of months ago, it was a given that S3 had been cancelled. All people who worked on it had been released from their contracts. It's a miracle we can still have 90’

[@ticcitoby1936]

Omg I love good omens the show written by Terry Pratchett and Keanu Reeves!! 🥰/j

[@frankiesstein]

thank you for your work detective mcclung 🙏

[@s0und_wavez]

As someone who found Gaiman’s work as a place of comfort when I was in middle school and highschool, I am disappointed. His work really made me feel like I wasn’t a weirdo because I liked things that not a lot of other people like (the occult, gothic literature, etc.). He really inspired me to be an artist. It’s a shame to see my childhood hero turn out to be a creep :(

[@doctormelancholy3042]

Always be aware of a writer who is pushing the occult at you while you are still in high-school and they are on the dime of the Hollywood New World Order and DC comics! Also be aware not to take any baths in the same vicinity.

[@melissaroszkowski8911]

Someone doesn't even need to be famous to groom another adult. They can simply be a superior in a work environment

[@nene..charlie]

MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@opalzxx]

NENE PFP SPOTTED 🔥🔥

[@Errbrrr]

Best quote of the decade

[@exolentexo-l]

cute pfp!

[@Bananapants241]

ASSEMBLEEEEE

[@あまにたLR]

NENE KUSANAGI

[@missingpigboggers]

YES THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS! Other than tumblr, i didnt really see any back lash anywhere else (but i dont use social media often lol) and as a good omens fan, im so happy u brought this here as well.

[@SpookiePossum]

The only other person on KZbin who was talking about it at the time when the podcast about the allegations where coming out was Council of Geeks. She's done two videos on Neil. Correction 3 now she just posted another a few days ago.

[@missingpigboggers]

@@SpookiePossum oooh gonna have to check her out

[@KicesiesVlog]

My friend met him in a poly circle many years ago and said he and his gf at the time were extremely violating of consent.

[@sillyseal0]

i dont think ive seen any commentary channel talk about neil freakman, thank you louis

[@TheSapphireLeo]

Also careful with the abelist "freak", but yeah he is ignorant and/or using excuses and not just disabled, if any?

[@winterrain11]

as someone who has been a huge NG fan for years and years and who is very heavily involved in a bunch of his fandoms (i was working for a good omens charity at the time the news dropped) this whole thing is just so fucking disappointing. it’s so hard to still love his work after this, but after so much of it has inspired and as a writer and saved my creative process…. god. NG is such a creep.the fact that he went into the gomens 3 production thinking no one would ever find out disgusts me to my core. ugh.

[@Bananapants241]

Sorry to ask but what is a good omens charity (I’ve never read the book)

[@winterrain11]

@@Bananapants241it was a fundraiser for the children in gaza where we would take prompts and write/draw them for proof of a donation to the Palestinian Children’s Fund

[@Radiohost1874]

As a huge Good Omens fan as of pretty recently (the TV show), I didn’t know anything about Neil prior to this situation. His alleged actions are so absolutely vile and disgusting and it is so terrible that he is getting away with this kind of stuff (because of his power and everything else). Thank you for bringing this situation to light while big new outlets will not. Love your videos!!

[@GingerPeacenik]

To be fair, Good Omens was mostly Terry's baby. Bringing it to the screen was Terry's dying wish.

[@SheepyBo1]

I was watching it before I saw this. This absolutely ruined it for me.

[@hannahp1108]

When this initially came out on social media, I saw a lot of women say that Neil Gaiman had flirted with them at cons when they were very young, barely legal type age. There are definitely more stories

[@Rello-Mello-makes-edits]

Bro why are there so many celebs being exposed 😭

[@AUserYouMayKnow]

I’m still crushed about iskall :( and now this

[@smudgedeyes]

Love to see karma practicing its magic 🫢

[@sarahcox1197]

Why? Because when you have power, you are disillusioned to believe everyone else is beneath you and that you can do/take what you want, especially for those who are questionable to begin with. Take a person who is corrupt or corruptible, add a sense of power and you get this.

[@SpecialBlanket]

Men

[@chelsea_lynn22]

@@AUserYouMayKnowISKALL?!

[@abi_nguyen]

THREE VIDEOS in the span of THREE DAYS…. louis you spoil us!!

[@kaibaiarrio1299]

Anyone else remember when he defended lolicon and wrote a story about snow white being a 6 year old vampire who. rapes her dad. SHES SIX YEARS OLD. Theres also necrophilia on top of the misogyny, pedophilia, and incest in that story.

[@strawberrywheels]

WHAT

[@arcticgalaxies9160]

sure its gross but that doesnt mean he supports it, its just fiction

[@bramstokerfan]

​@@arcticgalaxies9160 it's a red flag

[@darkcrydotmrihavetoomanyst1440]

What story is that

[@arcticgalaxies9160]

@@bramstokerfan do you think video games cause violence?

[@ilovecowboys18]

one thing that always fucked w my head was in the Sandman script notes, neil gaiman wrote that he modeled Calliope's abuser's workspace after his own. a rapists workspace after... your own? interesting

[@sabrinalocke2846]

Did he really say that? Oh that turns me sick

[@angelamaddalena8170]

I was thinking of Calliope since the allegations came out 😢 is sadly telling isn't it. I can't stop thinking he had some urge to confess something about himself now

[@belovedobserver]

Yes I have been a fan of his works for a long time. He enjoys his protagonist being a big hero, but his villains, and the things done to women made me not very surprised unfortunately.

[@SpecialBlanket]

He is not at all saying this, of course, but as a lesbian, I just want to remind everybody that it's OK if you have been with a ton of men or have never been with a woman or just figured out you were a lesbian even though you were in your 30s or whatever. There is no expiration date on discovering you are a lesbian. It can be really hard to tell what sexual attraction is supposed to feel like with all the social messaging. I thought that I was experiencing attraction to men and I was not.

[@Raghhhhhhg]

It’s such a shame he came to my city last year and I was SO excited I took photos for the paper I wrote an entire article about him I loved that guy he wrote sm stories that defined my childhood and taste in literature. This dude’s WACK. My heart goes out to anyone affected by him.

[@mayagonzalez7545]

I heard about this months ago when it first came out and spread on tumblr. I'm glad more people are becoming aware of this now. As much as I wish for this to not be true, the fact that nothing has been done about it and that it has been kept very, very quiet does not bode well at all. He has written so many wonderful things, so many compassionate things, and has spoken out in such favor of the MeToo movement and women's rights and #believeallwomen. It is clear to me that that was nothing more than a front. A terrible lie. I hope these women get justice, if what is alleged is true.

[@superkid3188]

It’s really frustrating since he was openly pro-trans and he’s been outed as an ‘alleged’ sexual predator so transphobes have ammunition to use to try and manipulate unsuspecting people into believing that all trans people are predators and that supporting trans rights is somehow a sign of being a predator simply because of Gaiman existing.

[@Random_Happy]

Can’t believe Terry Pratchett and David Tennant made Good Omens. My favorite show in the world.

[@GingerPeacenik]

Every film and series "belongs" to hundreds of creatives. Besides, Terry wrote the bulk of the book and came up with the ending, yet un-filmed, more than 20 years ago.

[@sammjaisais7135]

I think if people who do this out of alleged "misunderstanding of signals" truly feel bad, they should prove it by making a public fucking apology. That way other people can know to make things abundantly clear because they know they have to either be very careful with this person or they have to run away from them as fast as they can. But they don't truly feel bad, it's just something they say to avoid consequences. I had a bad (traumatic) experience with this guy from university, I was high, I was drunk (both for the first time), I made a mistake and feeling that I couldn't go back on that mistake, I just let things happen, becauseI figured he was tipsy as well, so he probably wasn't in his right mind either. I had nightmares, I needed therapy, I still have flashbacks. I honestly blame myself for dismissing his joke of "No means yes, and yes means yes". So if you're reading this and someone makes that kind of joke to you, RUN. It's not really a joke, they actually think that.

[@AutoOtto0]

Idk why but imagining a 61 y/o man doing BDSM is funny to me "Call me master" **Bone popping out of place sound** "OH SH!T MY HIP" "Ahhhh call 911 call 911!" (My humor is broken😭)

[@mayrabravo4261]

ur so funny I'm going to turn into a roach in ur house

[@dominicfucinari1942]

I'm hoping my far healthier lifestyle will put me in much better shape by the time I'm 61 y.o. (which will be in early 052) than 61 y.o.s in the 990s who were generally born in the 930s.

[@sabrinalocke2846]

HELPPPP THIS MADE ME CHOKE ON MY COFEEE

[@GingerPeacenik]

59 here and weight train 5-6 hours a week at the gym. Older doesn't always mean unfit....though in his case, yeah, he makes no effort.

[@AutoOtto0]

@@GingerPeacenik damn bro- good for you! Impressive as fuck! Rock on 🤘

[@ineffablepenguin5052]

Thank heavens Terry Pratchett wrote 75% of Good Omens

[@GingerPeacenik]

And hundreds of people created the series. They still deserve jobs beyond a 90 minute movie.

[@TAddy-wq3hg]

I heard about this months ago and it disappeared so fast. Thank you for bringing it back to peoples' attention!!!

[@dead-fox-walkingg]

As a huge fan of his work (coraline, good omens) this is heartbreaking and infuriating at the same time. Screw you neil

[@LIGHTERstudioANIMATOR]

His books were my childhood 😭😭😭

[@eternally_eepy]

Fr I loved Coraline sm

[@LIGHTERstudioANIMATOR]

ik...

[@pintyen]

@@eternally_eepy wait he wrote coRALINE??????

[@eternally_eepy]

@@pintyen Yes, then it got a much more popular movie adaptation

[@LIGHTERstudioANIMATOR]

@oculartremors i know, I'm just kinda... well, disappointed.

[@artsybook]

first heard about the allegations MONTHS ago on tumblr and how neil had been like. reacting to the allegations. I unfollowed neil and haven't really heard anything else about it since

[@BreadBut3D]

I was waiting for this video :( RIP Good Omens

[@belasundead]

thank you for talking about this. I have been a huge fan of Gaiman's work for years, and i was so disappointed when i heard the allegations and how no one was talking about it.

[@moonsoups2548]

I've never been super familiar with Gaiman's works aside from Coraline, but ouch.. That first story alone is just horrifying enough, with the others added along I want to puke 😭 What a terrible first impression of the guy

[@moonsoups2548]

I have to say, what disgusts me the most is that phone call. He was quite literally admitting to everything

[@daa5865]

I'm just gonna stop liking famous people from now on literally no one is safe 😭 so damn betrayed

[@captaincairoPT]

You can still like Keanu!

[@kxjx]

Good plan

[@EmlynBoyle]

I've been dismissive, dismayed, disappointed and ultimately disgusted by all this. As a longtime NG fan, when I first heard about these allegations, I thought they were wrong...no, 'Neil' couldn't have done this. To make things fair though, I actually listened to the podcasts and came away feeling grubby. It was when I heard a tearful Caroline talking about how Gaiman would effectively make her and her kids homeless if she didn't perform for him, that years of putting this guy on a pedestal collapsed. As someone on the spectrum too, how dare he try to justify his own autism as an excuse for such behaviour?? I'm amazed that more people don't know about all this, so thanks for putting it out there. There are still fans of his that want to brush this under the carpet or act like he's untouchable because of his (undoubted) talent...and he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it. Even without the SA element, it's still a blatant abuse of power. Innocent until proven guilty yes, but what I've heard/learned so far has put me off the man forever.

[@Wings.and.paws.]

Members of the audience! Assemble!!!!!!

[@no.sleepgang]

ASSEMBLING

[@あまにたLR]

ASSEMBLE!!!!

[@t0aster_user]

HERE!!!

[@someone_stole_my_handle]

Everyone: Oh what a shock, a rich and powerful man uses misogyny, rap€ culture and fame to abuse vulnerable people, it's only like the 578th just this year. Meanwhile, Tortoise media: I can't believe BTSM did this.

[@nimroddess_]

I agree I'm surprised this isn't being talked about more. I've been waiting for more mainstream coverage ever since I was made aware of it. I haven't listened to the tortoise podcast yet because I know I won't like what I hear, but I know I do need to listen to it. This video was the first time I heard the phone recording... It gave me suck an icky feeling. He sounded so sincere at the start, not quite apologetic, but like he actually didn't think/know anything was wrong. And then the payoff suggestion was just so gross. Like you said, even if he truly believes he did zero wrong, thats still a problem because he clearly did wrong and is trying to throw money at it to make it go away. Good Omens has been my favorite book for years and years, and now it's also my favorite TV show of all time. I was heartbroken and angered to learn that Neil is just another sleaze ball.

[@detectivetrashcat39]

I think it's important to remember it's next to impossible to BECOME rich unless you take advantage of people financially. It's not a leap to think most also would take advance of people in other ways too

[@IllisiaAdams]

Thank you. I have been holding my breath with this for a long while, now, hoping it wasn't true, it being a "their word against his" sitch... But that audio... He *can't* deny this any more, that's *evidence* and that means he's *guilty* ... I'm heart-broken... I want to cry... My entire world feels like it's completely changed... I literally listen to his audio books - read by him - *several times a week* and I've seen the Stardust movie *hundreds of times* ... He's just such a big part of my life... And now I... I just... I can't... Neil Gaiman's 'Stardust' *literally saved my life* (I tried to end my existence, but I wanted to "go out" while listening to my favourite book, so I put it on while I was "feeling myself fade", but the beauty of the book's themes of true love made me regret my decision, so I called the ambulance). I don't think I can ever listen to that - or any other of his - audio book ever again, watch his films again, read his books again... Oh, jeese, he even wrote my second favourite ever episode of Doctor Who, 'The Doctor's Wife' (the one where the TARDIS' soul gets stuck inside a human's body). I know some people can "separate the art and the artist" (case-in-point, Harry Potter fans who can't stand JKR's transphobia and racism, but still enjoy the franchise), but not me. This will *always* be in the back of my mind, now... I must thank you for this video. I've read lots of articles about this, watched other videos about this, but none have shared the *evidence* and so I was still in denial... And as much as I kinda wish I'd stayed in ignorance - or, better, that there was no evidence, or that he was innocent - but I don't want to live a lie, so although this hurts me to my very *core* , it is better to know the truth.

[@katerrinah5442]

Reading stories like this breaks my heart. I hope you're doing OK and better now. Hopefully in time you can find new works of fiction that inspire you just as much as Gaiman's did ❤️

[@joannawinters6592]

I would never ever be surprised by a man acting this way, and especially a man who has power. It's their nature.

[@christopherrobin361]

Men's nature or men with power? The former is pretty misandrist.

[@MatthewL-_-250]

And now because of this were only getting a 90 minute movie 😢 rip Good Omens

[@GingerPeacenik]

If fans directly contacted Amazon studios and demanded it be finished properly in TERRY'S memory, they would do just that. Scripts and plans change weekly, but cancel culture is just too enjoyable to most to do this.

[@RockLeeIsMyHusband]

Thank you for talking about this. Spreading awareness is so important.

[@ava_marie_v]

Thank you so much for talking about this. It's felt like so few people are paying attention to this and as someone who used to love his work and him as an author, I was horrified when I learned this and it felt like so many people just weren't.

[@pandacatking01]

i didn't expect louis to cover this but im so glad he did

[@Idontreallyknowwhatimdoinglol]

If anyone wants a deeper dive into this, Vera from council of geeks did a couple of videos on this as well as one on all the Gaiman shows and movies that were affected (Be warned they're like 2hrs each) Allegations Pt 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6nQlniOeauAbqs Pt 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmeTmJmmabt1h7M Gaiman projects kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGKQlJWIm8-HgLM I think these videos are really useful for anyone wanting to explore the issue further as she breaks the podcast down episode by episode, as well as the issues with tortoise's reporting and Gaiman's pattern of behaviour.

[@Addy-ve1yc]

I'm a really big Good Omens fan. I found the book and it genuinely changed my life. When I found this out, I went into a really bad state of mind and got really crappy for a bit. I was devastated. I actually own like 10 of his books AND a signed copy of Good Omens. So a few days later as a form of coping, I taped Miku's name over his on ever book, and on the GO scriptbook I traced her and put in over his face. my mom asked me if it was messed up when she saw me taping them, and I looked up at her and when "yes" and went back to taping them all

[@LudiosAnimations]

Thanks for the tip I’m gonna go do that. It’s probably going to take me a while because somehow I bought copies of books that also has his name on it (in reviews and suchlike) completely by accident 😠

[@keefyaboii]

We got louis talking about neil gaimen allegations before GTA 6

[@SpacesLittleLaika]

NOO WHAT DID HE DO

[@PaleJulia]

A bunch of stuff that is wrong and probably illegal. But he is also an LGTBQIA ally, an avid supporter of equal pay in media, an outspoken feminist and advocate for human rights. A not so gentle reminder NOT to idolize celebrities

[@SpacesLittleLaika]

@ well I’m glad I don’t idolize anyone.

[@imaginarylivingbody7154]

@@PaleJulia “An outspoken feminist” yeah I wouldn’t call an abuser that.

[@bbqmeandyoustinkypinkypewp4298]

​​@@imaginarylivingbody7154 they say that you shouldn't create an idol out of celebrity just because they seem good. He presented himself as someone (a feminist) who he wasn't in reality.

[@arbyswitch5580]

​@@PaleJulia now now, was he truly an outspoken feminist or an LGBTQIA ally when he allegedly m*lested his lesbian (woman) employee in a bathtub and denied the allegations after the fact? Bc that's not very outspokenly feminist to me. That doesn't track as a gesture of allyship to me...

[@VIX_BONES]

As a huge good omens fan. I am incredibly disappointed and disgusted.

[@GingerPeacenik]

It was mostly Terry's work, and his memory shouldn't be pissed on because his friend who contributed to it is a d-bag.

[@あまにたLR]

I’m animating and then I get a notification for this

[@labcoatlad513]

I literally can’t idolise anyone anymore . why is there always a new celebrity getting exposed for this kind of stuff. I don’t know what component in fame and wealth makes them think this is acceptable. absolutely disgusting. and now the last season of my favourite show for the last 5 years is being cancelled.

[@ace.l.w]

I really appreciate that people are starting to talk about this more. I’d seen that allegations had been made, but that was months ago and I haven’t been aware of anything since.

[@notericforeman]

Please don’t let this completely erase why we should’ve already thought he was a dickhead. He completely destroyed Norse history with his stupid little fanfiction. I have hated him MY ENTIRE LIFE, being raised in a Norse Pagan household. I have been Norse Pagan since I was born 24 years ago, so this isn’t some weird teenager fad, this is the religion my family practices and has practiced for many generations. He destroyed the public perception of the religion and caused so many misconceptions that I am frequently told I am wrong when talking about MY OWN RELIGION. It is absolutely worse that he is an abuser, I am not trying to overshadow that, but his destruction of an entire religion’s public perception should have been being talked about for years.

[@sir-ryan-the-dumb]

How so?

[@EvelynHalen]

How? (Not trying to be rude btw I just wanna know)

[@chrispratt2740]

you’re kind of fucking insane for equating this to sexual assault, especially when every religion is referenced/warped thru media get over yourself. these women suffered the worst possible violation and this is what you think doesn’t deserve to be overshadowed? listen to yourself

[@firstfractal515]

How?

[@ルシラムス]

Norse pagans try no to make everything about yourselves challenge: impossible

[@rowannnnnnnnn]

NOOOOO!!!!! WHY HIM TOOOOOO WHY MUST MEN BE THIS WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAA AND HE WAS SO FUN ON TUMBLR TOO NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Actually devastating. Another case of it being impossible to happily, safely, and proudly vouch for any man 😔 Mad props to the women who broke their silence despite his massive social and financial power. I wish his (“alleged”) victims well, NDA be damned. *YOU CAN’T GET MAD AT SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY FINALLY BROKE AN ILLEGAL NDA, NEIL. ESPECIALLY NOT WHEN YOU PRESSURE THEM INTO SILENCE* why men?

[@porkiipahfahh]

ultimate detective shuichi saihara: 🚫 ultimate detective kyoko kirigiri: 🚫 ultimate detective louis mcclung: ✅

[@strawberrywheels]

FINALLY MORE PPL TALKING ABOUT THIS GOOD GOD

[@Genderfluidclown]

I know I was so shocked how many people in these comments didn't know, I'm so glad it's slowly getting more and more publicized

[@l.uciana]

as a dead boy detectives fan this is so disappointing :'/

[@brokeshimmy]

Thanks for finally covering this!

[@Yugichi]

I haven't watched this but I have to tell you, the sandman is by far my FAVOURITE comic ever. I love this writer and seeing from the thumbnail... I'm already tweaking out that my favourite writer is a ALSO A BAD PERSON

[@Iloveyoutillthedaythatidie]

WE ARE THE BEAUTIFUL AUDIENCE WITH THIS ONE🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💥💥💥💥💥

[@KingOfGaymes]

As a huge fan of Coraline (mostly the movie version thankfully) finding this out hurt a lot… It makes me nervous to ever be a fan of any real people or their work because so many turn out terrible.. like I’m almost afraid to enjoy anything out of fear of supporting a secretly bad person..

[@blissfulrosies]

exactly i cant take it anymore why cant ppl be normal 😭😭

[@arbyswitch5580]

Good news for Coraline enjoyers (imo) The movie is significantly different from the book. That's how I'm gonna allow myself to like Coraline (the film) and condemn Neil -predator- Gaiman

[@arbyswitch5580]

Like, Henry Selick wrote the screenplay for the film Coraline. Neil gets the very bare credit of writing the book that inspired that movie, but Neil Gaiman did not write the story or build the world of that movie. In part this is coming from a place of comparison between Coraline, and actual Neil Gaiman movies like Mirrormask (labyrinth but shittier) or Stardust (the subplot in the Narnia books where a star fell from the sky and became a girl, but shittier)

[@cecile886]

2:04 separate the art from the artist. I definitely agree.

[@LeadersInDisguise]

Sure. But most of his "art" is shit, too.

[@cecile886]

​@LeadersInDisguise I haven't read it, so I wouldn't know

[@dyotoorion1835]

No don't. Gaiman's writing is an expression of his own personal ideology. He's an evil man, and so his writing is also evil. I advise you to avoid it.

[@theonenamedv]

When I was a fresh out of the closet bi (pre-transition) my first big girl crush was a librarian, and I got big into this dude because she said he was her favorite author 🥴 Thanks for giving me another reason to hate this cringey era of me lmao

[@annapolly14]

saw this stuff a few months ago, disappointed but not surprised that it's not bigger news

[@WilliamBrowning]

Never elevate anyone to the status of Hero. No one is worthy of your adulation. All humans are deeply flawed and will let you down.

[@AndriodGirlMCR]

I actually started cleaning my three month depression pit room because of your outros ngl! And it di/does make me feel better!

[@lulu-zo6jz]

worth noting that this woman was homeless prior to being "hired" by amanda palmer. both her and neil were both completely aware of how vulnerable she was and would therefore be dependent on them. withholding her pay and knowing what neil was like, amanda shares so much blame in this it's sickening. I've been a fan of amanda palmer for years and a lot of her songs detail abusive situations which was very cathartic for her fans as she wasn't afraid to show the darkness of people in her work. now we're just finding out that she facilitated this environment. what the fuuuuuuck?

[@kxjx]

Also sleeping with her fans that are 20+ years younger than her

[@MakaylaValencia-kl9bv]

I loved the angle of Louis in this video it felt more real and natural of him sitting closer

[@Genderfluidclown]

Im so glad he didnt have anything to do with one of my favorite books/shows Good Omens by Terry Prachet and no one else

[@CaptainDeliciousPants-g2x]

I can’t believe KZbin hide this from me for 9 seconds

[@AshisNOTNash]

GODLY TIMING, JS GOT HOME FROM SCHOOL 🔥🔥🔥

[@Imboredandgay.]

SAME 🔥🔥🔥

[@f3rnsdomain]

Good Omens, my favourite Hatsune Miku creation

[@NowhereKing-c7v]

I hated hearing this news so much. His books meant so much to me growing up. Sigh.

[@hieithefox]

You can’t look up to celebrities without being disappointed later on it sucks

[@HawkMawth]

Are there any celebrities that aren't bad??

[@sabrinalocke2846]

Keanu reeves maybe? 🫠 I’m getting nervous dude

[@Sscorpika]

Mitski

[@GingerPeacenik]

Met a lot of them back when I worked in the film industry (1989-2018). John Ritter was great, as was the actor who played Radar O'Reilly on M*A*S*H (Gary... Something), Mark Hamill is nice enough. But most of the A-listers? No comment.

[@siushi630]

Pedro Pascal

[@amberdunnam5272]

Thank you for caring about the cases no one talks about. I first started watching you because of the RobertIDK video. Thank you so much.

[@emmie297]

thank you for talking about this!!

[@synthzz9178]

This is really sad, really extremely painful ...i never checked his private life, except for one entry on his blog where he talked about his cats and his family. Sandman really changed my life, the last time i read it was during the lockdowns because i needed to cheer up and that masterpiece works for me. Recently i loved his series American Gods so much that i felt the need to read it. I was planning to watch Good omens, some friends told me its not bad and his style is definitely there...well i think i will probably watch it.

[@soup2764]

God this one hurt me so so bad, I looked up to that man so much. Why do people have to suck so bad, why do people let the power get to their head this fucking badly

[@menaceinsane]

about his ex-wife, bc it wasn't mentioned in the video: Amanda Palmer isn't really a "feminist". After the allegations came out, I finally understood why Neil and Amanda were married. Amanda was on a tour (payed with Patreon) and only paid the musicians with "hugs and beer". the thing is, the album was crowdfunded and the went on tour, bc she made A LOT of money. She also had a song, where she screamed the N-Word. No, it doesn't make sense in context. she just did it to be edgy and pretended she didn't know it was wrong to use it. Now I am just gonna name !some! of the bad things Amanda did: faked a su*cide and recorded the reaction of the current boyfriend to later use it in an album; kicked someone in front of the crowd, which made them disabled; blatantly ableist (Dresden doll as a freak show with conjoined twins, yes very funny, (/i) -> also generally objectiveing and fetishizing disabled people); creating an unsafe space for BiPoc+: she did not only used the n-word in songs, but also casually used it at performances; wrote a poem about mas*urbating while kids probably saw her through the window (I hope I disremember this, I really really do); she harassed some (female) journalist, bc she wasn't covered enough by them in spite of her openly talking about miscarriages; AND SO MUCH FCKING MORE I was a big Amanda palmer fan as a young teen (12-14 years), which was 10 years ago. Every time I hear something new about AP, I still get surprised (bc like wtf). Oh, and fck ND. I loved his media, Good Omens (even though it's only Terrys work, I know :)), Doctor Who, and so many more. F*ck men. F*ck privelged people who abuse their power. Thanks Louis for this video. It's really strange how silent the controversy is. also: here's the obligatory "sry for my English, this is my third language" addition you were looking for

[@phoebegee54]

I thought it was a bit off when she said she still liked looking at the boys she liked as a teen, something like that

[@menaceinsane]

@@phoebegee54 well...

[@phoebegee54]

@menaceinsane hm?

[@menaceinsane]

@@phoebegee54 I didn't know that. it just never ends with AP (it was a disappointed "well..")

[@phoebegee54]

@menaceinsane can't remember where I read it but I think she said something like that