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@De3dSh0t
@De3dSh0t Жыл бұрын
I'm dying😂 Marz trying to argue logic with a dude who just made a list off of vibes and favourites is insane
@user-truth904
@user-truth904 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@TopTierHater
@TopTierHater Жыл бұрын
“it doesn’t have to make sense” might be top 5 funniest things i’ve heard in players choice😂
@tommycapone8926
@tommycapone8926 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@SkodenMOC
@SkodenMOC Жыл бұрын
Marz got Ron moving that goalpost 😂
@skywalker2676
@skywalker2676 Жыл бұрын
That’s why Ron be hanging around ticket lmaoo
@thesportsfanatic2106
@thesportsfanatic2106 Жыл бұрын
Nah Ron got Ron moving the post lol
@Ricooooo2r
@Ricooooo2r Жыл бұрын
Marz put that boy Ron in purgatory
@skywalker2676
@skywalker2676 Жыл бұрын
Straight purgatory 🤣🤣🤣
@tyrellleach1846
@tyrellleach1846 Жыл бұрын
Im surprised Ron isnt 10 shades darker now. He got absolutely cooked
@Chris1200923
@Chris1200923 Жыл бұрын
💀💀💀💀
@elevatorelliot714
@elevatorelliot714 Жыл бұрын
I love when people get exposed for not being consistent
@farhansarkar2394
@farhansarkar2394 Жыл бұрын
We need a list of the worst metaphors, as soon as Dub said "imagine your with a girl."
@MJW1509
@MJW1509 Жыл бұрын
Ron’s list is straight vibes and feels 😂 mars cooked him
@JT-km6th
@JT-km6th Жыл бұрын
Ron is hilarious man 😂 switches up his list however
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Жыл бұрын
Ron got cooked
@sportspsp
@sportspsp Жыл бұрын
U smoked him
@elijahrincon3586
@elijahrincon3586 Жыл бұрын
He might need to retire
@StressedOutJimmy
@StressedOutJimmy Жыл бұрын
In an easy bake oven
@DameFreshTV
@DameFreshTV Жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭
@Kai-Soh
@Kai-Soh Ай бұрын
You're such an expert troll you pull it off without even trying. You had Ron's brain crashing in real time.
@leosburner627
@leosburner627 Жыл бұрын
Ron makes Ticket sound like a genius.
@praisethesun9014
@praisethesun9014 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@Darkkent83
@Darkkent83 Жыл бұрын
Bruh BIG FACTS!
@DJ-ys9pv
@DJ-ys9pv Жыл бұрын
There is no combination of skill, longevity, winning and accolades that puts any player not named Jordan above Lebron and even that’s debatable. Doesn’t matter what your % are. Ron got cooked
@mitchsn7706
@mitchsn7706 Жыл бұрын
There are players with the skill, winning and accolades over Bron
@ExclusiveExcellence
@ExclusiveExcellence Жыл бұрын
@@mitchsn7706 I’m sorry but that’s just not true
@bjrnthebootybandit
@bjrnthebootybandit Жыл бұрын
Kareem
@wooiiin7281
@wooiiin7281 Жыл бұрын
@@mitchsn7706besides jordan. Who?
@elevatorelliot714
@elevatorelliot714 Жыл бұрын
Jordan and LeBron are the 2 best players, it’s not even a debate.
@mobetta2092
@mobetta2092 Жыл бұрын
Dude with the locs is the kinda guy who thinks he could represent himself in court better than any attorney could.
@kambuibomani231
@kambuibomani231 Жыл бұрын
I use to overrate Kareem heavy until I did a deep dive and realized he came up small in a lot of playoff matchups following his first title until Magic came along. Because of that he’s no longer in my top-five.
@haadtheevision
@haadtheevision Жыл бұрын
Only has 2 FMVPs and damn near got carried the last 2, not to mention the competition in the West in the 80’s was bad
@culifabrizio1479
@culifabrizio1479 Жыл бұрын
Oscar robertson
@Darkkent83
@Darkkent83 Жыл бұрын
"It doesn't have to make sense" is the worst statement I've ever heard! 🙅🤷🤯🤡🤔
@vodka4gaben
@vodka4gaben Жыл бұрын
Unironically saying that Magic Johnson is a better basketball player than LeGoat is blasphemous
@kambuibomani231
@kambuibomani231 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it is. Player spans beyond talent in my eyes
@vodka4gaben
@vodka4gaben Жыл бұрын
​@@kambuibomani231 Magic was only a better playmaker than LeBron. LeBron clears magic in scoring and defending. It's not even close.
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
Players with the most finals MVP 1. Jordan with 6 2. Lebron with 4 3. Shaq with 3 3. Duncan with 3 3. Magic with 3 6. Kareem with 2. 6. Kobe with 2. 6. Durant with 2. 6. Kawhi with 2. 6. Hakeem with 2. 6. Larry Bird with 2. 6. Willis Reed with 2. Those are the multiple Finals MVP winners since the award was handed out since 1969. Also the ABA was from 1967-68 season to 1975-76. Post Merger 1976-77. Kareem won 1 title pre-merger, pre-magic. 4 MVPs pre-merger and 1 MVP the first year of the merger. Kareem won an MVP when his team finished 40-42.
@kjo2130
@kjo2130 Жыл бұрын
What’s funny is that the nastiest part of this video is the fact that dub has KD top 10 all time lol 🤦🏾‍♂️
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 Жыл бұрын
Cap
@alltheworldsastage8597
@alltheworldsastage8597 Жыл бұрын
All these guys list are terrible in their own way. That’s why they always preface their list by saying it’s their opinion.
@SosaaaBrady
@SosaaaBrady Жыл бұрын
My Nigga everybody list is opinion, not just theirs
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
Kareem only won 1 NBA title before Magic and that was pre-merger. Also won an NBA MVP when his team record was 40-42. Only won 1 Finals MVP pre-Magic and 2 overall. Magic has 3x Finals MVP.
@Rileylmao_
@Rileylmao_ Жыл бұрын
He should’ve been finals MVP in 80 lowkey
@mashadphoenix
@mashadphoenix Жыл бұрын
And Magic should’ve got it the year James Worthy won it.
@2robjenkins
@2robjenkins Жыл бұрын
It’s almost like basketball is a team sport, not 1 on 1.
@jonnstewart2023
@jonnstewart2023 Жыл бұрын
​@@2robjenkins magic is still better
@2robjenkins
@2robjenkins Жыл бұрын
@@jonnstewart2023 they’re both all time greats, just depends on what you prefer in a player. Magic was a poor defender to me which holds him back in regards to other all time greats.
@donknock-offs
@donknock-offs Жыл бұрын
Ron died horribly 😂😂 my nigga started getting spicy and deflecting to Dub and Ticket
@moochiebaby368
@moochiebaby368 Жыл бұрын
Marz list actually makes the most sense
@X02Overdose
@X02Overdose Жыл бұрын
Marz was putting Ron through the spin cycle 💀💀💀
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
Not having Magic in top 10 is absurd.
@kaekae1782
@kaekae1782 Жыл бұрын
Idk off the top of my head but it’s arguable he’s not top 10 in ability.
@ExclusiveExcellence
@ExclusiveExcellence Жыл бұрын
Not really outside of playmaking he’s pretty average at everything else in comparison to the rest of the ten
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
@@kaekae1782 clown take
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
@@ExclusiveExcellence even more clown takes.
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas Жыл бұрын
@@kaekae1782 your outta your mind
@alucard3374
@alucard3374 Жыл бұрын
Damn Marz BODIED that boy within the firsr 2 mins LMAO
@dannyphantasmo7225
@dannyphantasmo7225 Жыл бұрын
Bruh the cognitive dissonance to rank players they like above others is ridiculous these arguments only exist because there isn’t a set criteria for the masses it’s all to subjective
@Sh8kS
@Sh8kS Жыл бұрын
I just think people should use winning accolades skillset and competition. if you factor in those 4 theres typically a consensus top 7 atleast.
@dannyphantasmo7225
@dannyphantasmo7225 Жыл бұрын
@@Sh8kS i understand your reasoning but then we would just be arguing eye tests and that’s way to flawed even more so then using those 4 you mentioned so there really isn’t middle ground people just fail to be objective in some instances making these debates not fun like this video lmao
@Sh8kS
@Sh8kS Жыл бұрын
@@dannyphantasmo7225 sorry that was a typo. I think people SHOULD use those 4 criteria. I agree with you
@dannyphantasmo7225
@dannyphantasmo7225 Жыл бұрын
@@Sh8kS ah ok my fault lmao
@trey6581
@trey6581 Жыл бұрын
Ron you should never talk basketball again 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️
@sportspsp
@sportspsp Жыл бұрын
Love Ron, but he makes crazy Basketball takes.
@fjmontana3724
@fjmontana3724 Жыл бұрын
Magic over Bron😭😭😭😭😭😭
@mathewsb19951
@mathewsb19951 Жыл бұрын
He's actually insane for that
@KleinpeterHank
@KleinpeterHank Жыл бұрын
3:06 Marz got me crying man 😂
@2cents250
@2cents250 Жыл бұрын
“My list is my list” 😭😭😭
@Chidu_u
@Chidu_u Жыл бұрын
New to this channel. Ron basically told the guys that when you rank players that each of them have respective stories and when it gets close on ranking them he’ll give the edge to whoever has more rings/post szn success. It wasn’t that hard to get. He does need to work on articulating himself but those others guys just agreed with each other and didn’t have opinions of their own. Idk if that was the point of the segment that he argues with 4 other guys but that’s what it looked like
@BlkStar99
@BlkStar99 Жыл бұрын
They didn't all agree with each other as their lists are all different because they rank their top 10 on different criteria. The only thing they agreed upon was ranking the players in a logical way based on what they value more as opposed to just ranking the players off vibes
@jjsmooth23
@jjsmooth23 Жыл бұрын
Not everyone’s list is consistent at the end of the day. We rank players based on many different reasons. I have player a over player b for a different reason than play c. Consistency can’t always be achieved with subjective list. This is all about preference
@301lal3
@301lal3 Жыл бұрын
If ur criteria isn’t consistent then it’s just a random list and not something u could have a real debate on
@von1626
@von1626 Жыл бұрын
@@301lal3exactly
@alexanderjackson8389
@alexanderjackson8389 Жыл бұрын
​@@301lal3 name your consistent list..
@jjsmooth23
@jjsmooth23 Жыл бұрын
@@301lal3 list are subjective and at the end of the day can’t be objective no matter how you slice it.
@ExclusiveExcellence
@ExclusiveExcellence Жыл бұрын
If you have no consistency on your list that means that you’re just arbitrarily ranking people and nothing you’re saying has any logic or reasoning behind it making it DUMB
@SeecretWeapon
@SeecretWeapon Жыл бұрын
i have a headache lesson here if you have a list have a criteria that judges each player equally
@beatsbybebe8653
@beatsbybebe8653 Жыл бұрын
If all those players won championship’s the only way you distinguish and separate them is by analyzing there individual talents and by those measures ain’t no way Bron is not a top 5 player
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
Stupidity lebron the goat. His skill and longevity speaks for it self.
@lt45gs
@lt45gs Жыл бұрын
Nah dub with the lob and marz with the bodie lmfaooo Ron got pacced upp
@HoTSh0t24
@HoTSh0t24 Жыл бұрын
I hate how people act like there is actually correct answer to this question. Majority of people have about the same 12 guys mixed into the top 10. But then they argue and insult each other’s knowledge of basketball if it’s in a different order as them. Ridiculous 😂
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
Because if you have Kareem at 1 when 99% of people have him at 3, and you have Kobe over Lebron, when 99.9% have Lebron over Kobe, you are wilding out of control and you're just saying words.
@xpertyt6801
@xpertyt6801 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathansykes4986 that’s what I’m saying the criteria changes to fit their narrative
@HoTSh0t24
@HoTSh0t24 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathansykes4986 that’s not true. There was a poll that house of highlights put up a couple months ago and way more than .1% had Kobe over Lebron. It was like 30 something % had Kobe over Lebron if I remember correctly. And A LOT of old heads who actually seen Kareem play have him over MJ. Like I said there is no definite answer so I wish everyone would stop pretending
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
@@HoTSh0t24 30% of ppl are dumb
@HoTSh0t24
@HoTSh0t24 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathansykes4986 Wow. You have a beautiful mind Jonathan
@Pradyumna3008
@Pradyumna3008 5 ай бұрын
Damn this was funny Ron got destroyed in every way
@moochiebaby368
@moochiebaby368 Жыл бұрын
They got Ron looking crazy 😂😂
@darriboy1
@darriboy1 Жыл бұрын
Ron got himself looking crazy with that nut ass list
@kamrynmccormack3464
@kamrynmccormack3464 Жыл бұрын
@@darriboy1 weak ass list bogus ass list chitty booty ass list
@jaridatkinson4907
@jaridatkinson4907 Жыл бұрын
Magic at 11 is insane
@johnsepulvedacruz6428
@johnsepulvedacruz6428 Жыл бұрын
That was a terrible example no cap 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@therealkid617
@therealkid617 Жыл бұрын
no cap this was the funniest segment
@ricemandavis2815
@ricemandavis2815 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love Mars. What's wrong with Ron lol. Ron kept running
@alltheworldsastage8597
@alltheworldsastage8597 Жыл бұрын
It’s not hard any of these guys on this segment look silly.
@huhmf4815
@huhmf4815 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Mars on this deadass!! Ron my boy you definitely confused yourself on this.
@LilRod2
@LilRod2 Жыл бұрын
Having bill russel in your top 5 is just gross, context has to matter
@Nootz23
@Nootz23 Жыл бұрын
Context does matter, and given your position on Russell, I doubt you understand the context of his career.
@jonnstewart2023
@jonnstewart2023 Жыл бұрын
​@@Nootz23 most people do era tax, and so do I, having one team as decent competition is not moving me sorry
@Nootz23
@Nootz23 Жыл бұрын
@Jonn Stewart that's mistakenly assuming (as most do) that Russell ALWAYS had the better team. In the early 60's, it was true. However, by the mid 60's that was no longer true. The '68 Celtics had no business beating the '68 Sixers, especially being down 3-1. What happened? Celtics came back and won the last 3 games, Wilt blamed all his teammates and got traded to the Lakers that summer. The same exact thing happened the next year in the '69 Finals vs, yep! Wilt and the Lakers. Once again, that Celtics team had no business beating the '69 Lakers, especially being down 3-1. The Celtics win the last 3 games, and Russell retires as the GOAT. You can do an "era tax" if you choose, but it's hard for me to hold it against players just because they were born in a different time.
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
​@@jonnstewart2023 better competition because all the nba talent goes to those 8 teams. Idiot 90S IS A WEAK ERA. Stop this nonsense that 30 TEAM means better competition. It ridiculous.
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
​@@jonnstewart2023 he BEAT WILT CHAMBERLAIN CLOWN. He beat guy thar avg 50. Of course bill Russel would translate to any era period. Avg 18ppg 22 rebounds can be every era.
@FireMaster123
@FireMaster123 Жыл бұрын
Ron dosent know anything about Basketball
@Dc225_
@Dc225_ Жыл бұрын
Ron is good at moderating/hosting. Not debating.
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
Kareem has the most mvps bills was has the most rings. Nobody topping these two in that.
@nib5567
@nib5567 Жыл бұрын
Damn, Marz left Ron in the oven too long……Pizza tonight gang!
@gzzomega7661
@gzzomega7661 Жыл бұрын
This Larry bird disrespect is crazy
@emmanuelnsibukassongo-7261
@emmanuelnsibukassongo-7261 Жыл бұрын
My top 15: 1. MJ 2. Bron 3. Magic 4. Kareem 5. Chamberlain 6. Russell 7. Kobe 8. Duncan 9. Shaq 10. Bird 11. Curry 12. KD 13. Dr.J 14. Olajuwon 15. Moses Malone
@moochiebaby368
@moochiebaby368 Жыл бұрын
Ron’s list has no logic he do better just saying he likes who he likes
@officialroseworld1997
@officialroseworld1997 Жыл бұрын
Tim Duncan beat a prime Shaq & Kobe & stopped them from 4 straight championships. We’d be talking about both of them differently. He’s also 2-1 against LeBron in the finals. Never had losing season. Won 50+ games every year except a lockout season & that year they won the championship. Tim Duncan is one of a handful of players with 3 MVPs & 3 Finals MVPs. His resume is Goated he’s considered the greatest PF ever.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Жыл бұрын
he has 2 mvps not 3
@officialroseworld1997
@officialroseworld1997 Жыл бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports correct
@NothingElseMattersJM
@NothingElseMattersJM Жыл бұрын
@@officialroseworld1997 Tim Duncan joined a 50 win spurs team( yes they were 50 wins the season before Robinson got hurt )
@officialroseworld1997
@officialroseworld1997 Жыл бұрын
@@NothingElseMattersJM that’s fine. They hadn’t won anything
@officialroseworld1997
@officialroseworld1997 Жыл бұрын
@@NothingElseMattersJM when jordan came out of retirement, he joined a +50 win team. Nobody discredits his 3peat.
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
Shaq over Duncan isn't that egregious since peak Shaq is better than peak Duncan.
@JT-km6th
@JT-km6th Жыл бұрын
But Tim Duncan achieved more and has more longevity, he also never ring chased and that goes a long way. He also achieved his rings without another top 10 player. It is pretty egregious
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Жыл бұрын
@@JT-km6th by ur criteria its egregious not everyone shares your values
@JT-km6th
@JT-km6th Жыл бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports only argument Shaq has is a 3peat
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Жыл бұрын
@@JT-km6th like i said by YOUR criteria the 3 peat is his only argument,ur viewing it through ur lens of criteria not everyone ranks ur way
@zombie92110
@zombie92110 Жыл бұрын
Based on his criteria it's an absolute nonsense.
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
Honestly having Hakeem in top 10 is wild AF and just shows me one is placing some well placed winning titles in a Jordan retirement era NBA is overvaluing Hakeem. Hakeem won a close 7 game series versus Knicks with "basically no one" and then swept the Shaq magic with 3 other players who showed up in the finals Clyde Drexler had 21.5 / 9.5 / 6.8 Robert Horry had 17.8 / 10 / 4 / 3 / 2 Mario Elie had 14 / 4 / 3 / 2 Robert Horry had nearly as many rebounds as Hakeem , more blocks than Hakeem, and more steals than Hakeem.
@jjsmooth23
@jjsmooth23 Жыл бұрын
How is the wild when at worse he’s a top 12 player.
@wooiiin7281
@wooiiin7281 Жыл бұрын
Please hush
@RLSmith-jt8qj
@RLSmith-jt8qj Жыл бұрын
Jordan doesn't get credit for sitting out 94. He disqualified himself from consideration by retiring. And he was on that bulls team that lost to the magic in the 95 playoffs. I don't care of you say he's rusty. He stepped on the court with the intention of winning and he got sent home. It counts against him.
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
@@jjsmooth23 How much better is Hakeem compared to Steph, KD, Giannis or KG?
@jjsmooth23
@jjsmooth23 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathansykes4986 KG’s playoff woes and lack of scoring production makes it hard to argue him over Hakeem. Hakeem being a 2 way player puts him over KD and Steph imo. Giannis needs more longevity and great playoff runs before he’s over Hakeem. Hakeem’s playoff peaks is top 5
@FTOxRome
@FTOxRome Жыл бұрын
I can’t take nobody serious if your 1 or 2 isn’t bron or jordan
@DameFreshTV
@DameFreshTV Жыл бұрын
What I noticed is, y'all complain about an ever changing MVP criteria, but most of the people here never have a consistent criteria for ranking players lmfao. This was amazing.
@ryansomenek2631
@ryansomenek2631 Жыл бұрын
I think he means individual contribution to winning, a large part of Bill's 11 championships was the era and being on one of the most dominant super teams ever.
@brandoncrockett9266
@brandoncrockett9266 Жыл бұрын
Those “dominant super teams” weren’t that until he started playing for them though. Those guys around Russell get too much credit; they made up a strong supporting cast, but none of them matched Bill’s contributions to winning. He was their MVP in almost every respect.
@Ricooooo2r
@Ricooooo2r Жыл бұрын
He made them a super team. The 8 HOFERS argument is dumb bc none of them would be considered HOFERS without bill Russell
@ryansomenek2631
@ryansomenek2631 Жыл бұрын
@@brandoncrockett9266 Russell is great but come on he had like 6 hall of fame's where as most people play with 2 maybe 3, also this was the 60's the basketball wasnt that high level yet
@ryansomenek2631
@ryansomenek2631 Жыл бұрын
@@Ricooooo2r and if he played on wilts teams would he have 11, I think not, he was great but he also had a stacked team in a uncompetitive era.
@brandoncrockett9266
@brandoncrockett9266 Жыл бұрын
@@ryansomenek2631 What were those 6 Hall of Famers doing before Russell? Some of them weren’t even there by the time Russell won his first chip as a rookie. NO ONE in that Celtics organization-not the players, not Auerbach, etc.-had won ANYTHING of note before Russell. Then he shows up and they win 11 of the next 13 championships. If you think that that has more to do with those other guys-some of whom weren’t even there yet by the time the run began-than it does Russell, then I don’t know what to tell you. He was the catalyst, and they don’t come CLOSE to doing what they did without him.
@Gmacshow
@Gmacshow Жыл бұрын
Did he say it does not have to make sense really wow. How is he regular debater on this channel is beyond on me.
@JoDiamond807
@JoDiamond807 Жыл бұрын
HYPOCRISY😂😂
@FranciscoSilva-xk4hg
@FranciscoSilva-xk4hg Жыл бұрын
Marz baked Ron... bro said at the end he had people infront of other people, and says Magic is better than Lebron, which is just false
@N_L_23
@N_L_23 Жыл бұрын
Ron got cooked, baked, deep fried, sautéed and served with 3 forks and spoons
@alvin081988
@alvin081988 Жыл бұрын
Rob is the worst person to defend a client when convicted with a crime....his logic doesn't make sense
@marlowstanfield6815
@marlowstanfield6815 Жыл бұрын
Kareem does not have more accolades than Michael Jordan, where did dude with the dreads get that from?
@thomasbowling7458
@thomasbowling7458 Жыл бұрын
He actually does. He has more MVPs
@Nootz23
@Nootz23 Жыл бұрын
​@Thomas Bowling Kareem having 6 MVP's vs Jordan having 5 = Kareem has more accolades?
@marlowstanfield6815
@marlowstanfield6815 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasbowling7458 yes 1 more season mvp but 4 less fmvps. Jordan also has 10 scoring titles to Kareems 2
@jonnstewart2023
@jonnstewart2023 Жыл бұрын
​@@thomasbowling7458 mvps aren't the only accolades, if u count them in total jordan has more
@pierredorsey7983
@pierredorsey7983 Жыл бұрын
If you think about totality of playing ball from high school to end of career which is one of the ways players can get into the basketball hall of fame ( college and pros ) I believe Kareem won the national championship every year he was in college .
@jsobawse
@jsobawse Жыл бұрын
Ole boy just doesn’t value the competition from the 50s and 60s as much as later decades and that’s why he doesn’t value the players and their talent from those eras
@andy-brutusmichaud9340
@andy-brutusmichaud9340 Жыл бұрын
No disrespect but Ron is a CASUAL NO CAP 🧢,just keep being the host that's it
@ronnyfwea
@ronnyfwea Жыл бұрын
What’s the point of these debates if there’s no agreed upon criteria ?
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
Clicks and views.
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 Жыл бұрын
You could judge somebody's lists based on their own criteria.
@luisvarela1933
@luisvarela1933 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a been a big marz fan lately but he was cooking today 😎
@bigt100
@bigt100 Жыл бұрын
9:58 bro Ron what the fuck🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
@famousxji1852
@famousxji1852 Жыл бұрын
KD and Steph tied for me all-time. Top 11-12 for me. Cuz I can't take Shaq or Hakeem outta my top 10 for KD and Steph. And I'm a big KD fan. If he wins a championship this season, I will slide him into the top 10. But right now, hell no.
@alltheworldsastage8597
@alltheworldsastage8597 Жыл бұрын
Yea he’s top 15-20 not 10. Steph I got top 15 also. I don’t have them tied.
@ZZ-ex8py
@ZZ-ex8py Жыл бұрын
This is why I don’t take anyone seriously on the panel besides marz and low
@farhansarkar2394
@farhansarkar2394 Жыл бұрын
Chill and Fluent are cool too
@ZZ-ex8py
@ZZ-ex8py Жыл бұрын
@@farhansarkar2394 idk about fluent but chill is just as dumb as Ron I’ve seen low do to chill what marz just did to Ron Just cuz he old don’t mean he’s smart
@LaChrisNola
@LaChrisNola Жыл бұрын
​@@ZZ-ex8py Nah marz and low literally piggy back each other they don't have their own opinions. Low uses a computer in front his face to argue basketball ans Marz just agrees with everything he says they like little kids fr
@ZZ-ex8py
@ZZ-ex8py Жыл бұрын
@@LaChrisNola what’s wrong with backing a correct opinion 🤣
@farhansarkar2394
@farhansarkar2394 Жыл бұрын
@Chris Nola1997 Marz and Low have disagreed before, most of their opinions align with Thinking Basketball who has changed the game for basketball analysis. Also the stats argument is stupid, they consistently back up their takes with the eye test. If you don't follow thinking basketball and that side of the internet you are just behind
@SirTalks2Much23
@SirTalks2Much23 Жыл бұрын
Mar got Ron tight
@antsupreme88
@antsupreme88 Жыл бұрын
Ability to hoop = play offense
@tyronebray9593
@tyronebray9593 Жыл бұрын
Favorite list is different than a ranking of best players in this case lol. LeBron being out of the top 3 with his logic is insane 😊😂
@seankelly4594
@seankelly4594 Жыл бұрын
Take Ron out the oven he’s done
@xpertyt6801
@xpertyt6801 Жыл бұрын
Marz had this man in a blender
@juspeace907
@juspeace907 Жыл бұрын
kareem was not a better basketball player than jordan , lebron, magic, bird...I could go on
@JT-km6th
@JT-km6th Жыл бұрын
So where do you have Kareem in your top 10? You said you could go on, have you got him at 8th?
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
Kareem is definitely better than Bird.
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
Kareem more dominate as a center than everybody. Except lebron
@NothingElseMattersJM
@NothingElseMattersJM Жыл бұрын
@@coreythomas3633 Kareem wasn’t better than Shaq
@ZaeKaneTV
@ZaeKaneTV Жыл бұрын
Mars be killin Ron 😢
@chriskendall1619
@chriskendall1619 Жыл бұрын
yeah stick to moderating Ron 💀
@Thatboyroc
@Thatboyroc Жыл бұрын
Ron ain’t making no sense 😂😂😂
@jonwan
@jonwan Жыл бұрын
Ron’s list is fine especially having Kobe ranked higher than LeBron all time that’s a given. Solid list Ron.
@elevatorelliot714
@elevatorelliot714 Жыл бұрын
His criteria was garbage with no consistency
@oscar1847
@oscar1847 Жыл бұрын
Ron needs to be like del and just say it's personal preference
@alecxjones4419
@alecxjones4419 Жыл бұрын
It’s not goal post moving, it’s called substantial criteria. Literally google goal post moving
@micah459
@micah459 Жыл бұрын
I think I understand what Ron is trying to say but I disagree.
@jeremyjames3633
@jeremyjames3633 Жыл бұрын
My top 10 is 1. Jordan 2. Bron 3. Kareem 4. Kobe 5. Magic 6. Mr. Russell 7. Shaq 8. Duncan 9. Curry 10. Bird
@aidene.nguyen
@aidene.nguyen Жыл бұрын
Switch Bird and Magic and your list is excellent... I can't rank your teammate as the possible Goat and still have you as a top 5 player,...
@jeremyjames3633
@jeremyjames3633 Жыл бұрын
@@aidene.nguyen so Bird at 5 and Magic at 10?
@AveryB.0
@AveryB.0 Жыл бұрын
Hakeem over Duncan
@aidene.nguyen
@aidene.nguyen Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyjames3633 Yup... The whole idea of why KD's rings are an issue is that he had to join Steph to win... Steph is a top 10 player and we penalise KD that much,... Why then do we reward Magic for playing with a player very many consider the GOAT? And winning 5 rings while never winning without him? I have a lot more arguments to unpack but that's the simplest and most basic...
@aidene.nguyen
@aidene.nguyen Жыл бұрын
@@AveryB.0 Respectfully disagree...
@jecoy2
@jecoy2 Жыл бұрын
Ron BIG MAD 😂
@SirTalks2Much23
@SirTalks2Much23 Жыл бұрын
I’m wit marz on this 1
@Ttack
@Ttack Жыл бұрын
His favourite players not the best basically
@thornflex391
@thornflex391 Жыл бұрын
lol magic over lebron is crazy i mean lbj is almost as good of a passer as magic but the greatest scorer ever ..smh
@lazndora2026
@lazndora2026 Жыл бұрын
Marz wrong for this sh!t🤣🤣🤣
@chrilpy
@chrilpy Жыл бұрын
Ron has never had a good take
@mannymatencio1279
@mannymatencio1279 Жыл бұрын
Ron is just a laker fan thats why he have exceptions fo those who wear a laker jersey😂
@lukacalov1988
@lukacalov1988 Жыл бұрын
Guys like Marz are the worst ones They think if a certain criteria applied for one player the opposite one cant be in favour of another Also he is dsq from bball convo cuz he has lebron at 1
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Жыл бұрын
facts
@Natax99Final
@Natax99Final Жыл бұрын
😂wtf was that Ron
@jimmycharlotin7050
@jimmycharlotin7050 Жыл бұрын
My list is based the players who dominated in the most competitive era in the history of the game no disrespect to some of the players who played in the 60's my top ten all time list 1. Michael jordan 2. Kareem abdul jabbar 3. Kobe bryant 4. Lebron james 5. Magic johnson 6. Larry bird 7. Shaquille o'neal 8. Tim duncan 9. Steph curry 10. Hakeem olajuwon these top ten nba players that I've chosen based on my criteria the greatest players of the modern era of basketball give your opinions
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
Kobe didn't dominate anything without a big man.
@jimmycharlotin7050
@jimmycharlotin7050 Жыл бұрын
@Jonathan Sykes now Jonathan You're wrong I'm going to explain to you why kobe was the best player of his era despite not having multiple finals and league mvp's let me break it down now I don't know if you knew this my man did take his Team to the finals in Orlando magic with another dynamic guard name penny hardaway and he got swept back to back times but with kobe bryant eventhough Shaq won the accolades as far as finals mvp's scoring titles you can't devalue kobe they needed each other they were series in the playoffs that kobe outplayed shaq and when shaq fouled out he did close some games trust me I they were and still are the best duo of the modern era nobody does things alone it's a team sport now what cemented kobe is him winning that 08-09 championship against Orlando magic without shaq truly cemented his legacy now of course your going to say he had pau gasol but pau gasol never in any playoffs series gasol was never the best power foward kobe was the player at that time without question put it like this give me shaq and kobe with adequate players that can shoot defend and have some athletic ability they can't beat some of the best teams in nba history no cap
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
​@@jimmycharlotin7050 90s was not the most competitive or most talented era. Hard fouls doesn't mean tougher defense. 90s bais is ridiculous. Toughest era is 60s or 50s. Those guys played hard defense and played the most min.
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
​@@jimmycharlotin7050 MJ didn't dominate without Scottie 😂. Like what?
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
​@@jonathansykes4986 MJ didn't dominate without Scottie 😂. Like what?
@juspeace907
@juspeace907 Жыл бұрын
Dubs list is just as bad if not worse
@iBEEnHEREtoo
@iBEEnHEREtoo Жыл бұрын
If you wanna put Kareem over Jordan to stand out... just say that.
@isaacsmith3901
@isaacsmith3901 Жыл бұрын
Bruh don’t know what he talking about 😂… Kobe has more accolades than Magic and Kareem isn’t close to MJ…. 1)MJ has more total accolades MJ-72/Kareem-68 2)Most of Kareem’s chips came with him being the 2nd or 3rd option…. NO ONE EVA TALKS ABOUT THIS 3)Kareem received most of his MVP’s when the best individual basketball talents were playing in an entirely different league ( Dr. J, George Gervin, Artis Gilmore, Moses Malone, David Thompson, Rick Barry, etc.) It is a fact that the NBA during Kareem’s prime was the most watered down as it has ever been and ever will be. 4)Kareem miss the playoffs ENTIRELY 2 years in the middle of his prime (75’ and 76’) playing alongside another HOF teammate/ All Star (Dandridge avg 20ppg 7rpg and 3apg, and Gail Goodrich avg 20ppg 3rpg and 6apg) 5)Despite missing the playoffs 2 years in a row the NBA still awarded Kareem MVP in 76’ (one of the most questionable MVP’s given in NBA history) 6)In Kareem’s 10 Finals appearance there was only maybe 2 series where he was the undispute best player…. 2 out of 10. The other 8 series he was sometimes the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or even 6th best player in the Finals considering both teams… Kareem’s def a all time great but no even close to MJ whose the greatest of all time.
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
Kareem more accomplish than MJ. MJ accolade is OVVERATED. He wasn't the best defender on his own team.
@isaacsmith3901
@isaacsmith3901 Жыл бұрын
@@coreythomas3633 MJ is literally and subjectively more accomplished than Kareem… you can’t argue it 😂
@minfamous5841
@minfamous5841 Жыл бұрын
Marz top 10 is nasty
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Жыл бұрын
by my criteria whats nasty about it?
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports no Magic.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Жыл бұрын
@@jonathansykes4986 magic should be above who and why
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 Жыл бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports Magic is better than Bird on nearly every advanced stat. More titles. Same number of MVPs. More finals MVPs. Beat Bird 2 times compared to Bird 1. You can't bring longevity into it when Magic played 9 more games than Bird.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Жыл бұрын
@@jonathansykes4986 so ur mad at my 10 and 11 and want them flipped? okay cool
@BerryDre
@BerryDre Жыл бұрын
Ron’s lord makes sense but you’re doinga horrible job explaining my guy
@Chidu_u
@Chidu_u Жыл бұрын
Whenever it comes to Russ hate I already know guys say CP3 is the smart player and Russ the athletic player as a summary. Russ impacts the game in more ways than Chris Paul with scoring, assisting and rebounding. You can say you don’t want a PG who rebounds but you’re going to say no to a point guard who does the things Russ does and he’s also willing to give you boards?? Ron saying CP3 is a better ball player and Russ being a better overall player was pretty accurate. I know they’re going to keep talking about Russ’s shot too and makes sense. In Russ’s prime tho he was a good mid range shooter and similar level defender as CP3.. maybe slightly better given his size. If CP3 gets hurt in every big game and you use that as a cop out for him then maybe he isn’t durable which should factor into his ranking.
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