Tracy McGrady NBA Legend & Hall of Famer Talks Penny Hardaway, Kobe & Heartbreak | The Pivot Podcast

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NBA legend and Tracy McGrady welcomes Ryan, Channing and Fred to Houston for a conversation covering his hall of fame career, brotherhood with Kobe and the darkest times he experienced on and off the court.
The guys joke around to start the show off as Tracy tells the guys that basketball was his 3rd sport growing up and that baseball was his actual best one but that as a junior in high school, he picked up a basketball for the first time and the rest was history.
Sharing tales from his storied career and some of the All-Time greats he played with or met along the way that helped him mold his on court play from Michael Jordan to Penny Hardaway to Kobe Bryant to his coaches to his teammates. Being ranked as the best player in the nation at 18 years old, adjusting to money and fame was part of the transition process. Never winning a championship, Tracy's career was defined by his hall of fame talent and one of the best wings to every play the game known for his shooting skills, scoring, dunking and aggressive defense.
Tracy talks about some of the infamous match ups between him and Kobe and gets deeper into the bond the two shared off the court which he says shaped him as the man and player he was. Opening up about the moment he found out he passed and how it still doesn't seem real, Tracy shares some of their personal moments outside of basketball giving a different look into the person Kobe Bryant was.
In an emotional moment, reflecting back on his career, Tracy opens up about the struggles he faced waiting his entire life and working so hard to be apart of a championship team and how his injury kept him from being apart of the run, ultimately sending Tracy to a very dark place where he didn't talk to anyone for months. Tracy describes the moment he realized he wasn't the player he once was capable of being due to injury and age, and the blows he took to his ego leading him down a path of despair.
Being selected to the Hall Of Fame is the one thing that helped make all the painful moments and losses suffered along the way less of his focus and learned to relish in the moments of his success and understand the power of his legacy. Tracy's proudest moment has always been earning the respect of his peers and the guys he spent his life playing along side, especially a forever impactful statement from one in particular...the last interview with Kobe Bryant when he shared that the best player he ever faced was Tracy McGrady.
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[@carlmdrumgoole]

Tmacs ability to speak on his experiences and the way Ryan, Channing and Freddy allow the conversation to flow...aint nothing else like it right now.

[@TRELL3132]

No matter interruptions. Allowing the guest to fully express their thoughts and articulate their points and in some fashions and moments allowing the guest to lead the conversation

[@anthonyjohnson3022]

What ab all the smoke?

[@alecsanderhamilton9224]

There are like 30 podcasts like this. Drink Champs is #1.

[@isidrogarcia8048]

@@anthonyjohnson3022 it'd be more enjoyable if they weren't a bunch of yes men. Any time they have a guest they'll agree and shit on one side and then completely contradict themselves a few shows later

[@b.o.1951]

Nothing is messing with the Pivot. I believe it’s the football equivalent to inside the NBA just with guests and interviews. Much appreciation fellas 🙏🏽

[@BroCoolFire]

Way better then inside the Nba

[@b.o.1951]

@@BroCoolFire I’d have to agree.

[@deondreperkins9182]

@@BroCoolFire zero need for all of that.. Zero

[@jayrock_5678]

@@BroCoolFire comparison not needed bro, enjoy both

[@abandonedtownexplorations8736]

Its equal to all the smoke to me

[@youcant3xmakethisuptv752]

Had me in tears talking about KOBE MAN ITS STILL UNBELIEVABLE.. RIP KOBE AND GIGI AND ALL THE OTHER VICTIMS INVOLVED..😪😪

[@jeremyd3145]

Don't cry because he's gone bro, be happy and remember that you got to see his greatness on the b-ball court! 💯 RIP to those that perished in that terrible crash.

[@youcant3xmakethisuptv752]

@@jeremyd3145 that's real bro!

[@candicesmith1708]

YES YESSSSS 🙏🏾🤎🙏🏾🤎🙏🏾🤎

[@TyBeTroLLing]

myles garrett watch him

[@tremain7056]

@@jeremyd3145 We we’re definitely blessed to witness Kobe Bryant’s greatness 🙏🏾

[@frankhurst6990]

Wow never ever heard T-Mac be so candid in an interview. Pivot is the platform and the reason. Amazing job guys keep it coming. Love the Kobe stories.

[@joshuabutler2080]

The looks on they face when they T-Mac said he can get on one knee and throw 60 yards was priceless 😂

[@AgentZero0982]

Man lying on camera

[@jonathanblaze1648]

The cap is immaculate.

[@dkmrap1]

I believe it. He was tryna get into the mlb after he retired from basketball. I bet Roger Clemens will verify his abilities

[@MrThenextrayallen]

Na he meant, w his one GOOD knee, he can throw 60 yards. But the way you heard it was funnier tho

[@lilboosie5]

Well we know he can KICK!!! 😂😂😂

[@dricialovesyou]

T- MAC said that “Respect From His Peers” meant the most important thing to him. That shows you how humble, authentic, and respected this man is. T-MAC was the coldest during his tenure with Orlando and would have been a Top 5 player of all time, but injuries derailed the opportunity. However, everyone knows what he is capable of, which shows how LEGENDARY this man is. T-MAC was one of my childhood idols, and not to mention I had the hugest crush on him. And anyone from Central FL knows baseball and football were his first and second love, and he became heavily recruited In baseball and football. I’m so happy my guy T-MAC got dues paid off by becoming a Hall of Famer. Great job, The Pivot! Keep the unexpected guests coming! You guys are doing something for the culture that has never been done before. Much Respect and Blessings to you guys.

[@Iamdasouth]

@dricialovesyou, T-MAC was that guy back then Ballin out on everybody

[@meatspin.]

@@Iamdasouth he really was fr. my fave player in nba live he could do it all

[@jaylebron777]

Yeah yea.. I'm from Florida yet, never liked T-mac like that (on 2K he was my guy lol) I liked Vince and Kobe however, I knew TMac was longer and just as deadly as those guys He truly is one of the most talented 6'8" players to play the game imo. I don't think he ever reached his best prime state and if he did, it didn't last very long due to injuries Yea man... I'd put him in my top 10 list of best SF of all time or SG. He could play multiple positions and he could do it all

[@squeakyclean7]

A.I was my favorite.. and later seeing Tmac play so smooth and effortlessly.. showed me size matters

[@plattjkp]

Man T-Mac vs Kobe when T-Mac played for my Rockets will forever be some of my favorite basketball moments

[@killadez3511]

Magic days was better like 01-02

[@plattjkp]

@@killadez3511 MVP caliber season, but doesn’t change the fact that he turned our franchise around. We love Steve Francis but there wasn’t much winning going on until we traded him for T-Mac

[@domj9446]

LMAO at Ryan Clark saying TMac started lying.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@candicesmith1708]

😜😂😜

[@mistahabe2028]

That sh*t took me out 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

[@jaygaston1719]

Came thru the do' lyin!!!! 😀😀😀

[@diegotheyorkie1420]

That Flawda came out of Fred 😂😂😂 “dat bih walk like Kenny smiff” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@faheemcurtis-khidr386]

😂😂😂

[@TheRealBigManHarris]

Lol I caught that

[@PhillioDaPrynce]

I’m from Miami and I can confirm he definitely made his name in baseball first I remember football coaches talking about him when telling us we should try different sports no matter how good we were in football or track

[@taylorarcher46]

T-Mac was nasty. One of the greatest and most prolific scorers there was. Was nothing he couldn’t do. Dude carried the magic by himself. Always think what it would of been in Grant Hill didn’t get hurt?!?

[@LJDS1979]

Ryan Clark gonna have his own talk show before it's said and done lol. Pure gold every time.

[@UNT92]

With Fred and Channing lol called the Pivot

[@LJDS1979]

@@UNT92 lmao

[@GoogleAccount00]

@@UNT92 😂

[@johnathanearle1541]

@@UNT92 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@FierceOnAllDays]

@@UNT92 ctmu 🤣😂🤣 your comment straight gold

[@larrygoodman4304]

T-mac is a GOAT. I have been a fan since his Orlando days.. I got my boy high school jersey framed in my man-cave and in mind it is priceless.. shout to the Pivot for the great cast and for going indepth with great question selection 💯

[@bradj229]

Yes sir! I got a signed ball 🏀

[@sw5401]

T-Mac is no where near goat status. However, he was a great player! If not for the injuries he could have been one of the all time greats! He was a very unique talent. Unstoppable scorer. Good defensive player. One of the most exciting player of his era. One of my favorite player's.

[@candicesmith1708]

💯💯💯💜💛💜💛

[@larrygoodman4304]

TMac is definitely GOAT status... U just contradicted yourself.. "unstoppable" is a word you only use for Goat status player period.. I don't know where you are from, but where I'm from it's all about getting buckets and u just admitted that what he did like no other my boy. Just because he doesn't have a ring don't get it twisted.. Robert horry got 7 rings and he trash but he is also what you call a unique player which is a role player.. if TMac had 7 rings with his stats I'm damn near certain people would put him over all-time.

[@powerbadpowerbad]

@@sw5401 GOOD defensive player ??? HUH ??? T-Mac was garbage on the D end,he was more interested in scoring than playing D.

[@hardyway7466]

Please get my boy Westbrook on the Pivot !!! I hate the media has painted a Scarlett letter on him and would love to hear a real sit down convo from his point of view !

[@dandrijackson1031]

he don't like interviews

[@dkmrap1]

That Westbrook interview needs to wait til his career is over

[@maxamillion2272]

Agreed!!! Get Westbrook on the show!

[@mack9120]

💯

[@king.g.7184]

I'll pass on that

[@abandonedtownexplorations8736]

The kobe talk was deep 🥺 im still not over his passing either he was my favorite player since I was 8 years old r.i.p to him & gigi!

[@hebrewharv8018]

The Pivot all over the place with guest. Y’all traveling. 😂😂😂😂 Always bringing heat!!!! 💪🏾 💯

[@chelisajeffries3572]

Y'all should get Percy Harvin on the show!

[@AD-ur1fk]

It’s sad how this man doesn’t get the respect he deserves. Should of been in the nba top 75

[@CarltonCalhoun]

EASY!

[@torreypires6192]

i say that everytime i aee team 75 Tmac def def needs a spot smh

[@drosales43]

Kobe gave him his due

[@loc6191]

“That MF was cold!” Penny was cold and needs to be in the hall of fame! Y’all better listen to Shaq and T-Mac! Penny put in work! 901 let’s go!

[@jaylebron777]

Fr.. i remember being 15 yo living in Orlando, FL with no cable TV but still being able to watch Penny with a metal hanger lol on the local channels. . I remember saying to myself. . Dang, this guard is real good. He was making some spectacular shots that had a high degree of difficulty That's when i knew he's just as good as the best guards in the NBA

[@Iamdasouth]

Yessir if Penny hadn't gotten injury he would of easily surpassed Mj he was quicker had better court vision was even more athletic he had a freakish bounce to his athleticism was just skillful in every facet of the game my fave player growing up and to this day I still watch his hardwood classic games on the tube.

[@jaylebron777]

@@Iamdasouth surpassed MJ? Ummn. .. Penny was nice tho. No doubt. Heda been one of the all time great guards we talk about. We don't talk about him as if he wasn't great simply because his career was cut short MJ was different tho. I give Jordan the edge on athleticism and more But again.. Penny at his best may have been the 2nd best 2 guard when Jordan was around

[@Iamdasouth]

@@jaylebron777 Facts

[@1andonlydyoung]

On god

[@tonyramirez2057]

59:12 …. The way Ryan presents his questions is truly amazing. Almost every episode he has the guests giving him props on his great questions. Great job as always pivot crew!

[@XlogicXX]

RC has grown on me big time. ESPN doesn't utilize all his talents... had no idea he was this good of a host.

[@FibaFanatic]

Where are the timestamps?

[@MrMula11]

One of our living legends one of my favorites MJ, VC , KOBE ,TMAC KD ,KING JAMES, DRose

[@marquanjackson7406]

You forgot AI

[@OBLHoops]

T-MAC is always dropping knowledge and great stories!!

[@XlogicXX]

Smiled the whole time watching this. The Pivot is unmatched.

[@devonrockhold827]

I was out here geekin too!!

[@lucasdeangelo5462]

Facts

[@julianallen4960]

We need an interview with Vince Carter

[@cuSTEMJourneys]

The way Fred, Chan, and Ryan look at 3:35-3:40 is hilarious 😂 🤣 ... Everybody looking like "Nah bruh, you know you lying"

[@Biddy_B]

So happy to see you guys thriving in a positive environment. Loving the Pivot-keep rocking, guys!

[@jdash24ful]

As a huge Kobe fan it’s hard for me to still watch old Kobe clips highlights vids etc. I start watching them and get sad and angry and turn them off. It’s tough man he really was my hero

[@MoneyClipsSports]

Pivot at it again with another GREAT show FOR THE CULTURE 🔥

[@jacobjohn9539]

Tracy and Kobe, my two favorite players…… I love this interview, big shoutout to The Pivot 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾

[@ericperry27]

Man its so refreshing how they ask solid questions. And actually LET THE GUEST SPEAK. Great stuff guys!

[@tredd234]

The Pivot!!! It is an understatement for the content you guy's are putting out. Bravo!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@CarCrazy24]

So grateful for TMac and all his Kobe stories, that was some powerful stuff. RIP Kobe 🙏

[@ExcellenceAndProsperity]

Such a good message from T-Mac. There’s some Gems 💎 here .

[@jordanf.1702]

Watching this made me think that the Kobe Interview would have been life changing RIP Mamba 🐍

[@mlang28]

RC rocking that Sade sweater 🔥🔥

[@derricktucker5218]

My boys never disappoint

[@krisj2391]

My favorite player of all time. Can’t wait for this one

[@PHANT0M3O2]

🧢

[@antisocialsocialite3575]

@@PHANT0M3O2 “favorite” & “greatest” aren’t the same thing. Reading comprehension.

[@patricklewis4636]

hangtime hagan!!!! whats up bro!!

[@PHANT0M3O2]

@@antisocialsocialite3575 🧢

[@canarykaine9072]

Greatest basketball player of all time to me hands down

[@paulnhbtx713]

Big facts. Most god given talent ever. Dude was nasty on both ends. Could do it all.

[@jeremyd3145]

These brothas are fire straight fire. Pivot is fire period.

[@slicktalkproductions]

They need to change the name of this podcast from the pivot to Pressure cause that’s what they bringing every episode!!!

[@sostdm617]

My favorite podcast and my favorite player y'all really amaze me pivot the guest y'all been getting every episode is legendary keep up the great work I know tmac has so great stories

[@blulion9958]

This show is the best I've ever heard or seen! Keep killing the game fellas! Great guests and content!

[@treywilcher5311]

Such a great podcast they pivot so well with the rotation of guest it’s really incredible!!

[@Unreleasedhiphopsnippets]

Yooo Tracy Mcgrady really a goat 🔥🔥

[@BoskoShabazz]

One of the best dunkers of all time. He doesn’t get talked enough in that category

[@pedrojustice6341]

Facts

[@courtneysmith1352]

In game yeah I agree

[@allstarvb]

Yep he was vicious

[@candicesmith1708]

Facts

[@jriley810]

Awesome interview! Love all the questions that were asked. The relationship he had with Kobe was special, I loved hearing stories about Kobe. T-Mac seem to be a good-hearted person and had a lot of love for the game. I'm a die hard MJ fan and would love to see yall interview him. Not sure if that's possible but I'm believing that it's in the making. 😉 Thanks guys for doing what you do!!

[@marlonmarshall8382]

Definitely not possible lol. MJ isn't very social.

[@shantep1592]

T Mac deserves this platform!! I’ve been rockin with him for a minute 🙌🏽

[@B_Canada]

One of the best! Closes to a Kobe interview. Super inspired. He had his hand closed early because he was “lock off”. But y’all open him up. I love you this and love you guys! He didn’t fold his arms again once y’all got it open. Love y’all I’m always, I’m always here but as a young dude i want to do the same. And get the college kid$.

[@flexin3x]

Keep doing y’all thing man, we love this show. 💪🏾

[@mstsmilessitdowns]

I like his confidence.

[@dinoselimovic8392]

Early 00's T-Mac was that guy. From his game to his shoes, straight 🔥. My favorite player since middle school

[@KenTheMan407]

This is amazing, shout to my Florida boys ❤❤❤❤❤

[@orlandusdaniels9386]

Great interview. Great podcast

[@rollinjeudy7878]

YES ANOTHER FABULOUS EPISODE 👍👍👍👍, 💯💯💯💯👏👏👏👏 TMAC (Huge Fan) . Great Atmosphere Great Conversation Great Men. Thanks with many Applause to The PIVOT PODCAST. Keep up the Great Energy. Continue to Bless Us ALL.

[@CarlosQMcGhee]

They live up to their name because they Pivot in the guest selection process, I love it.

[@strikershadow302]

Love the interview with T-Mac, awesome introspective conversation. I was one of the people on the hill saying he and Kobe were peers when it wasn't popular. Keep the heat coming guys!

[@chirso2460]

Also for those that don't know. He's from Polk County in Florida. There's really only retired people, and then the hood. My grandmother lived in Polk county and the neighborhood he's talking about has been dubbed "heroine alley" by locals for over 20 years. Definitely a rough area no matter the time of the day.

[@yaadie3510]

The episode i was crying out for... That's my legend 🔥🔥🔥🔥on a legendary podcast LET'S GO

[@TerrencetheGreat13]

Antonio Gates is a HOF Tight End & he played Basketball before transitioning to football. When you’re gifted, you’re gifted

[@jamesgilbert6470]

And Jimmy Graham, he's just not HOF

[@ernesthunt1252]

Another Great Show!!! One hell of a guest. I would love for you to interview Jalen Rose and Dirick Rose. They both have a story to tell.

[@SpokeOfGenius]

Another Classic!!! Salute T-Mac!!!

[@kynix3532]

T Mac was that DUDE and that DOG in his prime...Another amazing show with these 3 Kings! Salute to the Pivot!

[@timmcrocker1771]

Man I love these guys! Would just love to sit and have a “Happy Dad” brew and listen to them just talk about whatever! Salute to all of you! 💯💯

[@cedricdixon5542]

Each week the exciting blessed Regal guest are amazing .True Hollywood Greatness in The NFL. Dr.Dixon

[@mattj3763]

Love this one! Great job wit this. T-Mac is one of the real legends. In my top 3 favorite athletes of all time.

[@jaylinarnold2165]

This episode was great ❤🎯! Love T-Mac!

[@heavyAMG]

Amazing interview guys. Salute to the legend T-Mac!!!

[@bigcohiba298]

T-Mac one of my childhood faves. The shoes, the gear, one of the coolest nicknames ever

[@boodeesparx1192]

Same bruh 💯

[@heartbreakkid2]

Double salute to the pivot

[@BeatzByDuvv]

Penny was that dude!

[@doe22us]

I remember that 13 point outburst game like it was yesterday unbelievable.

[@ogchocolate93]

T-Mac! One of my favorite players ever. Had his own style. Made the game look effortless

[@mattestrada931]

Fire 🔥 interview ! Would love to see Derrick rose on here

[@llock3hart]

T-Mac was phenomenal. His skill set made his time in Atlanta meaningful even with minimal playing minutes. I'm curious what other options were available after his Rockets tenure. What was he told leading into joining the Spurs? Why was he on the bench? Was it to keep him from joining another contending team? How much did Artest do for their Rockets playoff run before leaving to join the Lakers for championship? Who were his favorite veteran players and why?

[@deeperception6157]

When is Penny coming??? He is mentioned often.

[@diegotheyorkie1420]

Wholesome and Florida Boy is an oxymoron 😂 we are all a lil off 😂😂

[@epiikkhaosgaming]

"From 175 to 1"...sounds like the title of your book

[@tyronemcfall1757]

THANK YOU GUYS FOR A GREAT SHOW!!! LOVING THE HELL OUT OF THIS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK IN TELL NEXT TIME 🏆🏆🏆🙏✌

[@tartwurk609]

I lived in Polk County and homie isn't lying dude is a straight up legend in sport period

[@Womagical]

I've never seen T-Mac be this free. This is testament to how comfortable they make men and women feel as a guest.

[@haleyh7675]

I would love to see an episode with Jimmy Butler. It would be epic!

[@allstarvb]

Love T-Mac , dude was a straight up killer on the court , great episode

[@candicesmith1708]

FACTS 💯

[@tycrawford2196]

Nothing touches the pivot right now I'm going back and watching shows on you tube everyday Love it keep it going fellas

[@claytonsmith379]

The way he said “it’s natural!” Hit Different!

[@arturocruz3760]

Dammm !!! Much respect Tmac !!! Love how you gave Penny his props !!!!

[@memphobro]

Just imagine if he hadn't suffered the injuries.

[@arturocruz3760]

@@memphobro Penny was that dude ! He was my favorite basketball player back in the day. If only Shaq didn’t leave the Magic !

[@duanewoodson9804]

Great podcast brothers. Tracy great interview.

[@justinaragland3025]

T-MAC ONE OF THE COLDEST TO EVER DO IT! LIVING LEGEND!💯

[@saifthobani527]

Reason I started watching basketball Guy is a hall of famer but still underrated

[@mmphseazy]

Can I get a Penny Hardaway interview 🙏🏾

[@demetridwighthubbard7379]

One of the best interviews I’ve seen them do so much fun to watch 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯💯💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾 T-Mac was so candid & honest too I love it you guys truly draw out the best in guests y’all done it with almost every guests making them reveal stories they never reveal to any other interviewers & on any other platforms truly a pivot from almost others doing this podcast thing 💯💯💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾 ps. T-Mac one of favorite players of all time I was an 7,-10 year old boy when he was on Orlando killing averaging 28 pts twice & 32 pts in 2002-03 & getting 5,6 assists & rebounds & he was a great defender 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@nicolemoore746]

My of my favorite player of all time.. between T Mac and Shawn Kemp.. 🔥🔥🔥I love me some T Mac

[@MJL2121]

best sports pod cast on the planet

[@deonj225]

Bro every time someone says there story about Kobe’s passing, it hard to hear without being emotional.

[@gaber.1465]

Awesome episode. Love what this show has become and where it's going. One of the highlights of my week is tuning into the next interview. Now that the NBA season has started, I wonder if they'll give an update on Michael Beasley. Hope he's doing better and around good people 🙏🏾.

[@tederickjames4707]

This gave great insight to Tracy McGrady, that I really enjoyed listening to. Thank U!!! U guys are doing an EXCELLENT job interviewing your guest!!!

[@themobbboss9496]

I really love this show now. This is as real as it gets

[@melanieowens4320]

I really enjoyed this episode!! Great job fellas!!!

[@betabetapsi]

These guys will literally go from a Dentist to a Kaitlyn to one of the best scorers in NBA history. These guys don't miss. Love from Texas. Peace.

[@Chef_King_Curry]

I love Tmac my 3rd favorite player. Awesome interview Pivot!!!

[@amaadfarris9083]

We used to create players on NBALIVE that were 6'9 with hops, handles, and a jumper...then along came Tracy Mcgrady!! He was unreal!!!!