He Is Using a $130 Million Fortune to Change The World | Jim Greenbaum - The Exam Room Podcast

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Physicians Committee

Physicians Committee

5 ай бұрын

Jim Greenbaum walked away from successful $130 million business with one mission in mind, use his wealth to change the world. Little did he know that his world was about to change as well.
It all began with a conversation at the gym.
Those few minutes helped this man with exceptional generosity and a tireless work ethic to help others began to realize that he too needed help.
After growing up in the land of Crisco, red meat, and Coca-Cola, Jim knew he had to do something to avoid the same fate as others in his family who were stricken with heart disease. He was already struggling with high triglycerides and cholesterol.
Jim was given a copy of The China Study by T. Colin Campbell and began implementing changes. It only took one month for "everything to go into total balance" for the first time in his life.
The effect was so profound that Jim shifted the focus and vast resources of his foundation to moving the world toward a plant-based diet and vegan lifestyle.
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@ritamorgan2994
@ritamorgan2994 5 ай бұрын
Beautiful human! I have hope for the future when I listen to these visionaries. Thank you for caring for our gem of planet.
@JuanitaNance
@JuanitaNance 5 ай бұрын
God bless you Mr. Greenbaum for your generosity in so many areas, making more of a difference than yelling at a protest. Thanks also to PCRM for never giving up.
@CompanionAnimals2011
@CompanionAnimals2011 5 ай бұрын
What a selfless man. Beautiful ❤
@iamdebmiller
@iamdebmiller 5 ай бұрын
This is possibly my favorite interview by Chuck of all he has ever done. Jim is so inspiring - both men are wonderful and I'm so grateful for the work they each do!
@Equinox1.5
@Equinox1.5 5 ай бұрын
So wonderful to listen to positive, caring visionaries, especially when they have the ideas and resources to realise their visions. Thank you both very much, Jim and Chuck.
@mariaangeladiaz99
@mariaangeladiaz99 5 ай бұрын
God Bless you more Mr. Jim Greenbaum😊 I would like to be able to help too and change the world in a small way. Salute to you!
@mariaangeladiaz99
@mariaangeladiaz99 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Chuck for being vulnerable and sharing your story.
@margarett923
@margarett923 5 ай бұрын
I'm on board with Chuck starring in ANYTHING! he's a hero!
@janicehall3262
@janicehall3262 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Jim and Chuck. I wish more rich people would contribute like Jim does. Great human being.
@bitfinesse
@bitfinesse 5 ай бұрын
I’d love to see Chuck in a movie, ESPECIALLY if it covers the whole phenomena surrounding caloric density, how many pounds of food the typical person eats per day, and the brain’s tendency to seek pleasure, avoid pain, and conserve energy. I’d like to see a movie that stresses the idea that it’s not the fault of the consumer - we’re mostly giving in to our human instincts to seek as many calories for the least expenditure. I think that’d be a huge hit, especially with Chuck’s smashing charisma 👊🏼
@Equinox1.5
@Equinox1.5 5 ай бұрын
Yes! I agree.
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
honestly - every one of these videos is like a documentary hosted by chuck.
@Scor-ah
@Scor-ah 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see a program where food banks teach cooking classes for plant based eating to show how much cheaper and healthier it is for us. When I was a single Mom in the 80s I lived in a low income housing complex with 92 other Moms. Everyday kids would come to my house at lunchtime looking for something to eat. I made huge pots of veg soup and homemade bread or biscuit's and they devoured it. During my time there I taught over half the ladies how to cook cheap nutritious meals, not only did they stretch their food dollars but the Moms lost weight and the kids weren't sick all the time. It was a very satisfyingly time in my life.
@nancyweisbrodt3964
@nancyweisbrodt3964 5 ай бұрын
What a lovely empathetic woman you are!
@Scor-ah
@Scor-ah 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for saying that, we all have gifts we can share with others. Mine is born from growing up in a large family with not much money but my mother never turned away a hungry person. She would say put another potato in the pot we have a guest for dinner...lol@@nancyweisbrodt3964
@gamtngirl3655
@gamtngirl3655 5 ай бұрын
What an admirable man. Thank you.
@frompizzaaddicttovegan
@frompizzaaddicttovegan 5 ай бұрын
What a wonderful man. Thank you for having him on. I so enjoyed his thought process for the causes he wanted to help and love that he wants to make a difference. Bravo 🙌
@valeriarushiti1119
@valeriarushiti1119 5 ай бұрын
This is my dream. To help animals and poor people if I ever get rich ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️💪🏻
@jenniferpaul5506
@jenniferpaul5506 5 ай бұрын
OMG. I would love a food addiction documentary staring you Chuck. I am still in the middle of it. I struggle every day. Please do it.
@DrMei
@DrMei 5 ай бұрын
Great interview!! Thank you so much, Mr. Greenbaum, for your love and contribution to the world ♥
@lindavestal8139
@lindavestal8139 5 ай бұрын
A new focus on school lunch programs & nutritional change in federal guidelines & sourcing whole, organic food from regional/local farmers, which will help the farmers transition to sustainable organic produce farming.
@Worldpeace353
@Worldpeace353 5 ай бұрын
This is the greatest KZbin video of the year!! Fantastic
@laureneharrison8897
@laureneharrison8897 5 ай бұрын
What a lovely gentleman Jim is! Enjoyed this conversation very much & inspired as usual by PCRM 😊🇨🇦
@phytofitbydebbiezimmerman2335
@phytofitbydebbiezimmerman2335 4 ай бұрын
This is an incredible gentleman who is doing such great things for the planet. I love the socks and I love the work that Jim is doing. I believe it would be great if he help fund the Food for Life programs as this is an excellent way to spread the health benefits of a whole food, plant-based lifestyle. Chuck, you always do a great job and we appreciate every podcast you host. Keep up the great work!
@trishstauble3461
@trishstauble3461 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for all of your heart and justice seeking in this world ! It really is amazing how many issues are connected by animal agriculture. With this lifestyle and diet, our health, the world's health and the well-being of our animal friends all improve so much. I am so uplifted by your efforts. Thank you !
@vick7848
@vick7848 5 ай бұрын
Love this man
@user-fi8bm6dt4p
@user-fi8bm6dt4p 5 ай бұрын
I would definitely watch that documentary with Chuck in it!!! Food addiction!!!
@Equinox1.5
@Equinox1.5 5 ай бұрын
A film on food addiction would be absolutely brilliant. Whether it be mild or severe, it's probably the core reason why people find it so hard to change their diets. It would be interesting to look at the microbiome in relation to this, too. A bit TMI, perhaps, but could faecal transplants from slim, healthy, whole-food, plant-based eaters make it easier for food addicts to go whole-food plant-based and regain their health? So much to explore. I wonder if we are more under the influence of our gut bugs on every level - including cravings, thoughts about food, reasons not to change our diets, etc. - than we might like to think? Plus so many other factors influencing our thoughts and actions from day to day.
@twinb1954
@twinb1954 5 ай бұрын
What an amazing man!
@echandler673
@echandler673 4 ай бұрын
This is amazing work you are doing. The world is a better place because of you. I had plans to start a farm before I was diagnosed with cancer. Now I am putting that on hold to fight it with a WFPB diet and alternative treatments. 🙏🏻🤞🏼
@RonnieMinh
@RonnieMinh 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great interview. My wife and I are struggling to open a vegan fast-food cafe/franchise that will be a game-changer. Your interview is just what I needed to see this morning.
@ajayaiyar9450
@ajayaiyar9450 5 ай бұрын
Excellent! 💚
@Thejoeordinary1
@Thejoeordinary1 5 ай бұрын
Frozen fruits and veggies Rock! For a lot of reasons.
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
foraging's the best regardless, but with grocery stores - frozen works. Canned is also at the peak of ripeness, but I get the canning part is what is difficult to deal with.
@LongevityWithEllen
@LongevityWithEllen 5 ай бұрын
What an incredible interview! Thanks, Chuck, for bringing Jim to the forefront. Love the medical school networking approach. All the lectures should be vegan. ;) What a great member of the vegan team. Thank you Jim, for all your change-the-world lifestyle. My mom used to say when I was a kid, "You can't change the world, dear." As a rebellious 3rd daughter, been trying to work at that ever since. Though I went right to the non-profit, esoteric save the world careers like journalism. Money-making Title 9, medical and legal careers were not a thing for women so much back then. MOVIE IDEA! It would be wonderful to see one on long-term vegans, especially athletic ones who have dodged conditions like arthritis and other conditions that derail so many animal-eating athletes. Last weekend, when I placed in my 291st 5K or longer race since 2006 getting the Veterans Grand Masters award (1st in the 70-79 age group), a number of folks expressed their disbelief that I was "that old." I often talk about how racing is my way of playing in the mainstream and really influencing, by example, the many benefits of eating vegan. I've been "carded" several times at races because race directors didn't believe my age group. Runners who used to beat me like crazy 10-20 years ago have told me they'd be happy to be walking on vacation this year. Yes, Chuck could be his own multiple documentaries. The addiction is real. When you see vegan docs on the lecture circuit showing slides of sugar lighting up the brain more than cocaine, you wonder why sugar hasn't been made illegal. FYI, as a former La Leche League leader, I know that human milk has more sugar in it than other mammalian milk. Mama Nature wanted to make sure we didn't die of starvation and would keep coming back for more. So once we reach the theoretical age of weaning, whether or not we actually were breastfed, that sweet tooth doesn't go away. It's how we satisfy it that gets us in trouble. In her infinite wisdom, Mama Nature invented fruits. But extracting the best part of fruits, the sweetness, fed our desire to believe that if a little is good, more must be better.
@lindaripp5902
@lindaripp5902 5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@marylambeth2561
@marylambeth2561 5 ай бұрын
Great program!!! Enjoyed!
@dwaynejohnson992
@dwaynejohnson992 5 ай бұрын
Inspired by how the gift of making money is transformed into the gift of changing the world.
@thisbee66
@thisbee66 5 ай бұрын
You guys are pure treasure. Thanks food addict is rampant and shameful.
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
33:15 chuck - if you show what you did and what you do instead and then meet people who don't have the same abilities as you and see how you can make your lifestyle possible for them - that's a game changer right there! Show me how you'll get the entire village who rides a bus to the grocery store to go WFPB, SOS-free. You know? That's what I want to see. I thought the Forks Over Knives 2 documentary - the Engine2 one was the best. I want to see more modeled after that - what you remove, what you add - to your life.
@suemollison6508
@suemollison6508 5 ай бұрын
It’s great helping all these foreign countries but I hope you are doing great things here in the US. Tunnel Tower, wounded Warriors, Children’s Cancer Hospitals.
@user-fi8bm6dt4p
@user-fi8bm6dt4p 5 ай бұрын
As a teacher, I would love to see nutrition education in schools. The garbage our children eat does nothing to help their cognition and growth and hormones!
@mariaangeladiaz99
@mariaangeladiaz99 5 ай бұрын
Money is a problem for me. I would like to help people but I need help too to get funded first so I can pay my own bills and debts. I love being whole food plant based and the lifestyle and I really need to be a right servant of God by sharing whole food plant based ideas, eating and lifestyle
@bitfinesse
@bitfinesse 5 ай бұрын
Local first. Then global 😇
@alwayslearning8365
@alwayslearning8365 5 ай бұрын
You are helping just by admitting you want to help. It can give encouragement to others who are in a better place to be more generous.
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
well don't we all. At least you realize you don't need money to help - all you need is to bring your brain, energy, and time. Time is money. It's not hard to accumulate money - you just save money in one place to donate it to veganism. That's what I did. However, the greatest way to fund veganism is to fund your own vegan ideas - so I feel that's a great idea! After that, you can think of and worry about others. Then again - if you can't - maybe you can share your ideas where others can help them grow if you can't? There's always the vegan hacktivists, for instance.
@shassam99
@shassam99 5 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Jim to do a documentary on athletes who are plant-based. Our athlete son should be on there and hopefully realize and adopt this type of healthy eating.
@judithpratt
@judithpratt Ай бұрын
Jim already made it: The Game Changers.
@annwilliams6438
@annwilliams6438 5 ай бұрын
Our biggest problem in South Africa is a huge following of keto diets - thanks to Tim Noakes. And our medical practitioners, especially the cardiologists, are still pushing these ketogenic diets. (That is what is still taught in our medical schools under ‘sports nutrition’.) We need a really relatable documentary showing exactly what the problems are. Clear, easy-to-understand videos.
@elizabeththelen7955
@elizabeththelen7955 5 ай бұрын
No laughing matter helped alcoholics. I'd love to see Chuck's story!
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
20:52 I retired too - and people don't realize that the philanthropy's much more work than working a regular job - because you're healing the entire world's ills! It's way easier for someone else to decide your path for you and for you to do something wrong just to make a buck.
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
35:09 prescribed a burger? That's a new low. That'll take a long time to sink in - you know me Chuck!
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
29:45 I'm looking at a concept called 'motivational interviewing'. I wonder if this relates to what greenbaum talks about with being gentle - it's helping people to bloom and grow from empowering themselves, rather than someone else telling them what to do. I agree - how can anyone get better by being told what to do? How will they actually know what to do to do more and reach out to others, knowing why? It's better to have intrinsic, rather than extrinsic motivation. If someone's told what to do - I wouldn't call them a vegan, as they just don't know why they're there or what it's about - to continue. They're just doing what they're told and once that stops - they stop. Inspiring someone by letting people go through personal development allows a person to put responsibility on themselves - and that's what's really needed. That increases the energy to spread, rather than placing all the energy on those who brought up the idea - as then the responsibility's on them to maintain it - and that's not fair.
@wonderlizz
@wonderlizz 5 ай бұрын
Ditto Valerie!
@Kayte...
@Kayte... 5 ай бұрын
I was thinking that if Jim reached out to other millionaires how much more could be done and a few minutes later he said he was reaching out to other millionaires. 👍 Most people aren't aware of all the wonderful docs on the impact animal based diets have on health, environment, and animal welfare and because people respond to images I think a place these millionaires could be very effective with their money is in advertising these docs whether on billboards or magazines aimed at women and teenagers. I'm always so amazed how unaware people are. How do meat and junk food become so normalized? Through advertising. Keep hitting the public with years of advertising and anything can become normalized. Look how many people fell for doctor gundry. I was constantly bombarded with his ads. His success with them should be a template for how this movement should approach it. We just need the finances to make it happen. So many more people will become aware of these docs and other info resources through advertising than they will by accidentally stumbling on to something or by having a health crisis and then doing the research, or being nagged by someone. Spend the millions on advertising, not ozone destroying rockets.
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
18:15 grow your own microgreens and sprouts. Easy - Dr. B says that.
@bonnieolson80
@bonnieolson80 5 ай бұрын
Flash frozen foods freshly picked would be great if the products were properly ripened and not picked green!
@naftalibendavid
@naftalibendavid 5 ай бұрын
Spread the word. Try Motivational Interviewing techniques. We can do this!!!!
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
35:20 where I live is extremely hard to be vegan - simply because it's right where McDonald's was invented - so it pretty much made the world be the least vegan and the most unhealthy it can be. It's hard to fight the waves of meat eaters here, but I (and others) seriously try. Chuck - if you did some documentary on going to the original mcdonalds - seeing what and where it went wrong for you, the company, and the world - genius!
@Kiyarose3999
@Kiyarose3999 5 ай бұрын
Community Forest Gardens are the way forward not ‘’flash frozen’’ or raw produce that has come from 100’s miles away on trucks etc. People NEED Land in their communities for real freedom to work together to grow their own food. It would be far better if that multi millionaire used his money to buy plots of land for the people/communities that are in fresh food deserts, would also help wildlife! 🌻🌎✊🏽
@Meloniraelewis
@Meloniraelewis 5 ай бұрын
i'm only 22 mins into this but i'm DEF going to watch the entire thing but scrolled down and saw there's only 35 comments so figured i'd make a comment about the entire system that has let this(the inhumane treatment/unnecessary slaughter of so many animals) happen. if you were to survey 100 million people in the usa and ask "what is our main system" 99% of the answers would be either "capitalism" or "democracy" and BOTH of these end up meaning/producing "money rules" or "money is prioritized over/above ALL else" meaning money is collectively considered more important than me/you/all humans/the earth/all life on earth/government/religions/markets/education/the truth/walmart/amazon/bezos/musk/advancements/inventions/cures/peace on earth/etc/etc you name a word and unless it's a synonym for the word money(ie dollars/dinero/capital/assets/subsidies/profits/lettuce-a slang term for money/etc) as long as the word you list is not another word meaning money then it's going to rank somewhere BELOW money collectively as long as we continue to have "capitalism" and "democracy" the words "capital" and "money" are synonyms meaning we should use them interchangeably meaning capital=money meaning capitalism=MONEYism!! what do we all think is going to be prioritized under a system that has MONEY as its NAME!!?? certainly "humans" are NOT going to be prioritized over money under "MONEYism" zero of the survey takers would say that "humanism" is our "main system" so humans are NOT going to be prioritized and are NOT being prioritized are we!! neither are any othe animals/life!! so not only is our main system's name MONEY BUT in the real world money IS prioritized over/above ALL else!!(sure personally/individually NONE of us value money over "all" else but collectively this IS our system and this IS what's happening in our world whether we want this to be the case or not) so this system is 100% true to it's name. the system's name IS money AND money is put on a pedestal above EVERYthing else. this makes "sense" then for example why we have a for profit punishment system instead of a justice system we do not have "justiceism" we have ''moneyism(capitalism)" this is also why we have a for profit sickcare system instead of a healthcare system! this is why our government seems so corrupt and unable to function like we all need/want it to because we do not have "governmentism" we have MONEYism! money is prioritized above/over "government"...our government changes. the laws change. the people who create the laws change. BUT money STILL continues to rule doesn't it!! often the right will try to blame big government, like if there were zero rules/regulations then this would solve all our "problems" and the left will try to blame billionaires or corporations BUT just like government obviously isn't the ultimate ruler neither are billionaires nor corporations!! billionaires come and go and some go bankrupt but money continues to rule!! same with corporations they come and go and we even forget their brands BUT what we NEVER CAN "forget" as long as we continue to all collectively "agree" to prioritize money over ALL else then we'll continue to have money be prioritized over ALL else wont we!! i put agree in quotes because it's obvious to me that 99+% of the human population would NEVER actually agree to this system this is why we do not refer to the system by a term that EVERYone can immediately know/understand...if you were to as a 7 year old "what is money?" they 100% know what money is but if you were to ask a 7 year old "what is capital" they have zero clue and might guess washington dc or their own state capital....so WHY do we call our system "capitalism" instead of the easier to understand but means the same exact thing "MONEYism"!!?? seems pretty obvious that if the majority of people realized that our main system has MONEY as its NAME and what do we all think will be prioritized under a system with money as it's name and then look at how moneyism is currently affecting our entire world gee yes THIS is WHY money IS actually being prioritized over the earth/me/you/all human lives/all life/governments/etc/etc...if we all just understood this then we would immediately reject it! so we must call it something else NOT just moneyism huh! ok so sure what about "democracy" aka "majority rules" well i'd say 100% we have "majority rules" and what is the 'majority"? well there's roughly 8 billion humans on earth and 500 trillion monies so humans are outnumbered by 62,500 monies to just one single human so the OBVIOUS 'majority' in our 'majority rules" is MONEY so whether you personally would have answered "what is our main system" with "capitalism(moneyism)" or "democracy" BOTH of these "systems" just translate into "money rules/money is prioritized over EVERYTHING else". sure there will be someone who tries to say "oh but our 'democracy' isn't majority rules but minority rules instead"...well first of all even if our government tried to change the rules or the laws to make it minority rules instead of majority our government could NOT actually preform this BECAUSE our government doesn't have ultimate control we do not have "governmentalism"!! money rules over government so this entire notion is just laughable and second there's ZERO way that money would in ANY way make itself somehow vulnerable like that....sure advocates of "capitalism" will try to make the claim that a tide raises ALL ships BUT you cannot just take the advocates word we HAVE to look at the real world and when you look well we see NO ships there's ONLY money so if this system really was so great for everything else then why is our earth so polluted?!! why do our governments not function!? why is there still starvation? why is there no peace on earth?! why don't we have colonies on other planets? why don't we have a solid/tested plan to divert a comet that could cause our extinction? like sure the internet/cell phones are much help in advancing our species BUT these things were made by humans IN SPITE of "moneyism"!! not due to it!?? humans are motivated by MANY things!! sure money CAN be an incentive BUT just because something is an incentive doesn't mean the human's behavior is moral/good/necessary/etc...ie during the past few years we sure have incentivized ANOTHER pandemic haven't we seeing how the pandemic created SOOOO much profits/new billionaires!!?? so money is NOT always the "best" incentive huh!! someone needs to invent a system that has multiple priorities!!...currently all our "systems" either mean "a single thing rules or a single thing is prioritized over all else" OR when the system is actually put to the test ends up making only a single thing rule or prioritizes only a single thing!!?? why?? surely ALL of us multi prioritize in our own personal lives!! is there some reason why we can't multi prioritize collectively?? is there some reason why we cannot prioritize the earth/all life on earth/the truth/justice/freedom/peace/entertainment/hobbies/vacation/health/happiness/sadness/spirituality/a potential planet destroying huge comet/the potential survival of many species /sustainability/etc/etc maybe we call this multi priority system "whatever we needism" or "everythingism" sure not EVERYthing is equally important obviously we should NOT be making a printed piece of paper more important than ANY living thing or our only home!! untill we(the vast majority of us) become informed as to the reality of what we are "agreeing" to have as our "main system(s)" then we will continue to have "capitalism" and "democracy" which both translate to "moneyism" or "money is prioritized over ALL else" and certainly it would not do us any better to have anarchism(no rules) or socialism(what's 'social'? humans) a system prioritizing humans over the earth would not be the best!! earthism aka environmentalism prioritizing the earth over all life on earth would not be the best....something more like "earthlifejusticepeacefreedom/etc/ism" idk what it should be called but some system where we actually have multiple priorities and it should be a flexible system where we can add to and subtract from it as needed!
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
28:44 so who's going to fund vegan clubs on college campuses?
@Chao341
@Chao341 5 ай бұрын
🙏🪷☸️🕉
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
honestly - in terms of 'doing better' - veganism still really needs a lot of help. We have to realize that you don't want people who are told to go into veganism walk into 0 infrastructure. That's what it looked like when I first started out - I live in a beer and burgers place. People think I'm so lucky to be in a vegan-friendly place, but that's because I put one there. So I would say if we want to see more, instead of 7 elevens - let's see vegan restaurants where there aren't any! A lack of these is what causes most people I know to leave or just not be vegan. The money made from these could further many more vegan projects. There's just so many vegan projects that can use funding - it's not even funny! Helping out veganism helps bring people in - that's why the focus should be on vegans. Think about it - when people don't like the food - they leave. If vegan food improves - availability improves - guess what? People join in more. It's as simple as that. I double down on helping vegans out, rather than venturing out. People out there just don't want to be vegan - so why not reward those that've already decided upon it? I bank on that. I like Bob Iger's approach - where he wants to invest in companies during his retirement and let others run the show and jim seems like he believes in similar. I've done that too - and I do agree - you can't just be hands off - as then the money will go into a money pit with no one utilizing it. You have to put money into action by hiring people - not just donating it. Hiring gives people vegan jobs and is way more hands on - in terms of building people's confidence. All I see are so many people wanting vegan jobs. I really want to provide that - but I can't. That's where the money's needed. Non-vegans will get any job they can get their hands on, and vegans too. Why not make it a vegan job? Make sure they have vegan places they can spend the money at - so all the money doesn't go to non-vegan industries. Hire vegans for vegan businesses. But it's not my money and I don't push anyone to do anything. All I can do is fill in the gaps wherever others leave off - so I invest in veganism as others go out in the public to bring others in. Someone has to!
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
I sent an email
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
29:45 it's true - people lying to me, forcing me to watch documentaries that just expose me to violence and wasted my time turned me away from veganism. I thought it was all a scam because of the hyperaggressive takeover dictatiorial-like controlling personalities looking to overrule my life. If it wasn't for the people who sat down with me and answered my questions and letting me decide on my own what to think about and what to do - I would've been as far from veganism as possible. Looking at a slaughterhouse is like workplace training for a slaughterhouse - so I'll just go there more. If we stay on topic - and show people what veganism is about - instead of bludgeoning people over the head with violence exposure and what veganism isn't about - maybe we can get somewhere. How on earth can you show how non-violent and peaceful veganism is when you're being pressured and forced into watching gore? Even if it 'turned' someone vegan - it's for the wrong reasons, and to me it doesn't count. I'm about deontology, not utilitarianism. Utilitarianism is a perfectionistic short-lived moment before it crashes. You can't grow that way if you're always looking behind you. Instead - if you show people what veganism is about - they're already halfway there. Then they'll push themselves to do the other half. It's about improving goals, not perfecting them. Perfection might be achieved at times, but if you slip - it feels like failure. With deontology - any stride, even with failures - is celebrated. Any failure, instead of being disappointed - can be looked at as means for improvement. So I agree with greenbaum - it's about showing the way, not freezing them into non-productive preoccupation with uncontrollable horror and failure that they can't make better. You can't just tell the people in the slaughterhouse to stop - it won't work. That's why people cry after those documentaries - because they can't tell others what to do. Utilitarianism fails right there! They can only improve themselves - so why not show how? And help people see roses and rainbows - because isn't that what veganism looks like at the end? If not, shouldn't it? That's where deontology comes in - it evaluates what's good and bad and gives people a start in life. Even if it's not possible - they can at least think of the potential. It all starts with a dream! Then we can wait for the moment to go - when the moment's right instead of obsessing when we can't. I don't think it's fair to increase pain and suffering and extend it to humans. There's been enough hardship in the world - why not instead make people feel good about themselves - so they can uplift animals to their level - so animals can feel good too? That way greenbaum does a 2-in-1 - helping people and animals feel great at the same time!
@leonieduplessis4467
@leonieduplessis4467 5 ай бұрын
There is no quick fix to get more vegan people it's hard for people to change their eating patterns, becauce most think we very strange to be plantbased only when they get sick or overweight maybe they will change. It will take years to change people
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 5 ай бұрын
it's actually quite easy. We influence everyone around us and force them to do things they don't want to do just by our mere and sheer existence. If we just change our behaviors to influence all the people we do to change to being more plant-based, imagine how many people would without them even realizing? Spend your money at vegan only places if you can - that'll go very far for instance!
@leonieduplessis4467
@leonieduplessis4467 5 ай бұрын
Shame on you America not to looked after your people for what they eat and the availability of food
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