"He just landed without even talking to me" Real ATC Audio

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[@stevecooksley]

Once stopped he called the baggage handlers and straightened the whole thing out.

[@mikeperry2814]

LOL!

[@dalek3086]

straightened it out - he is a danger and a moron

[@AlexGac]

Congrats to that tower controller. Really great demeanor, and the professionalism was excellent. Even though they knew the information from the pilot wasn't accurate, they didn't even suggest an argument on frequency-- just took it over to the phone to talk it through. Perfect.

[@methridge]

"We were talking the whole time." Sure, but nobody was replying.

[@J.n.A.1993]

Outside his cranium, no.

[@JxsonKing]

"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.”

[@chuckcarmichael7835]

I never saw your lips move

[@holylee30]

talking to copilot whole time maybe

[@RetreadPhoto]

No, they were talking in the cockpit the whole time. To each other. About beef jerky and chit.

[@joe2lank]

Meanwhile passengers are wondering why the pilot is referring to them as tower.

[@frankgrimesification]

Legend has it that the controller never did receive that call despite the pilot insisting that he did call and had a long and productive discussion to clear the air with the controller.

[@georgesheffield1580]

With another tower possibly ?

[@johnhillard3717]

Lol

[@LittlePinks.BeGone]

@@georgesheffield1580 yeah, the tower in his own head...

[@SomeDumUsrName]

HA! You just won the internet!

[@lebojay]

Legend has it that somewhere on earth there is a blissful little tribe that has never heard the phrase, “legend has it.”

[@zainy11]

props to controller for no argument over frequency

[@twochilis6763]

Clever, the tower can't give you a number if you never speak to them.

[@darrengladstone3159]

The perfect crime, No way to punish you. Except for the giant numbers painted on your aircraft and the transponder blabbing who you are to everyone, and the radar recording.

[@tabchanzero8229]

@@darrengladstone3159 "It wasn't me."

[@metropod]

@@tabchanzero8229must resist making Shaggy parody…

[@willbaum7140]

"Get out of my way, we're coming in!"-Jetspeed529

[@danielrn133]

"we were talking the whole time".-pilot. TO WHO? And if they weren't getting an answer why did they land?

[@eswktay]

Was wondering if it was a prankster who directed them on the wrong frequency, or they were actually talking to another tower also with a runway 21.

[@stonehobson2487]

Cleared for Approach = Cleared for Landing on Jetspeed Airlines. Busy execs on board.

[@tabchanzero8229]

Next he's not gonna call but claim he had a lengthy phone conversation.

[@humlakullen]

Was on a parallel approach in to MIA many years ago. Same tower frequency on both runways. We had just been cleared to land on the south rwy, but tower had tried to reach a Delta 757 that was exactly even with us on the north rwy. At about 500ft the Delta guy finally answered: “Ok, cleared to land! Sorry about that. I dropped my sandwich” Tower: “YOU DROPPED YOUR SANDWICH???” Delta: “Yeah, I have pickles all over the floor” Everyone just cracked up:-).

[@RollingThunder2020]

"Was there an issue" Depends on if you think it's OK to get landing clearance from the voices in your head or not. I remember this one, still baffles me that he decided to land despite never getting a positive clearance to do so.

[@steven2145]

He confused clearance for the approach with being cleared to land. It happens. I am sure he actually realized it when he landed and requested taxi clearance and realized that we was still on approach/center freq.

[@simon199418]

maybe he went into a different freq and thought it was an uncontrolled field.

[@Darthvader-oc5tp]

@@simon199418approach told him to switch to tower and he responded with switching to tower. So I doubt he thought he was at an uncontrolled airport especially with requesting for taxi clearance as well.

[@wannabetrucker7475]

😂 there will be plenty of people making excuses for him.

[@LunnarisLP]

its funny how he thinks he can just land without getting a clearance and noone is reading back..

[@areza15143]

Perfect example of gaslighting.

[@alpenglow4243]

I’d like to hear how he explained that one.

[@andrewdutton3831]

Professional pilot of 25 years here…I find Jetspeed 529’s initial contact to be so irritating. Excuse making, “we were talking the whole time,” and the whole “Who, me? Impossible!” attitude is an a CRM hazardous attitude of “invincibility.” Pilots like this can NEVER own up to an error. Dangerous for everyone.

[@chanman4rings]

529: Was there an issue for Jetspeedb529? Tower: Tell ya what... meet me 5ft off of Airport property for a 10 second meeting

[@nelsonbrandt7847]

You haven’t lived until you’ve landed at a towered airport on approach control frequency.

[@kalamageo]

Except "approach/departure" tried to contact them unsuccessfully also. This still remains bizarre to me. WHO cleared this bozo to land? "talking the whole time" means the voices in his head must have given him clearance.

[@LunnarisLP]

@@kalamageo funny enough they apparently found the frequency or had their radio working again on the ground. Either way they should abort the landing without clearance and clearly no radio contact to anyone.

[@BillHustonPodcast]

No excuses, pilot.

[@firepilot109]

Landing clearance? Ain't nobody got time for that!!!

[@reecom9884]

You can’t argue against the tower audio communication recording! GOTCHA YOU!

[@ItsCarlnotCarla]

Isn't it funny, but it seems like everytime I watch one of these that the pilot can hear the tower the second the wheels hit the runway and not a second before?

[@buddycheck84]

These are the people that wind up in the wrong Airport altogether. 😂

[@eswktay]

Highly likely! They were "talking the whole time".

[@jay-rus4437]

“I was talking the whole time”…..oh, I see, so you received a clearance? No?…..oh, I didnt think so.

[@mtnairpilot]

Tower didn't give them a Brasher Warning ("possible pilot deviation") so he's going to be cool about it. But even if the pilot was "talking to him the whole time", he never heard "Cleared to land". At a busier airport this wouldn't have been resolved so casually.

[@TheFlyingZulu]

What pilot just goes straight in like that to a towered field WITHOUT a clearance to land... omg.

[@TheFlyingZulu]

If the pilot thought it was a un-towered field... he should have still called over the CTAF for his taxi intentions...

[@patstiff]

@@TheFlyingZulu he was given the TOWER frequency by the approach controller!!!!

[@lbowsk]

It happens all the time. Less than ideal, yes. But not really that big a deal. App control built an approach window for the jet, then the tower was protecting that airspace. The plane landed without incident.

[@JDrapic]

In deregulated America, pilot clears runway to accept landing. 😏

[@CursedEarthPizza]

Make Flying Great Again

[@bosshog8844]

unhinged comment

[@allgrainbrewer10]

@@bosshog8844TDS is everywhere

[@johnpoindexter6594]

Jetspeed 529... be ready to copy a phone number for a Possible Pilot Deviation

[@jakecostello8400]

The giggle from the tower controller when he says “nice to talk to you” made me lose my mind laughing. One of the funniest audios I’ve heard

[@typhoon123]

Just a matter of time guys! All we can hope is they will be smaller Aircraft 😔

[@rubiconbaron9662]

Do you want a phone number? Cuz this is how you get a phone number.

[@TheGordyb102]

As a tower ATCS, I had a few of these , mostly pilot brain farts

[@jasonraces5211]

Honest question: how do you brain fart your way into landing in controlled airspace without a clearance, let alone a readback?

[@TheGordyb102]

@@jasonraces5211 obviously the pilot did it, what’s your explanation? Distraction in cockpit, poor hearing, not in headset in speaker, whatever….pilot skill with aircraft, language skill,

[@charlesreediii5083]

Unbelievable.

[@blueknight5754]

Do you have the ATC from the “food poisoning incident” flight went from Detroit to Netherlands but had to emergency to JFK after crew reported many with food poisoning from spoiled food.

[@patrickradcliffe3837]

Guessing he got disconnected when reaching for the approach plate.

[@graemesloan5523]

In the UK that would have been met by the police breathalysed and grounded.

[@MyGoogleYoutube]

I wonder if tower flashes any light gun signals?

[@aetherel]

Looks like this happened at least a year ago. At 1:56 sounds like it could be “No”, not “Yeah”.

[@freakyflow]

Im not ATC nut But Is there no rule for Having to first get some sign of contact with a airport before Any attempt of landing is done This whole idea of "Clear to land" without it dont you have to do a circle pattern or go to another airport?

[@paulis7319]

When I was in flight school we learned about a dude who got in huge trouble for using his handheld av radio to give planes clearance to land. Maybe in this case his copilot or a passenger cleared him to land? lol

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

We had a fellow in Australia causing havoc with a hand held at one of our major airports a few years ago. How it didn't end in disaster, who knows. Somehow, he was arrested and brought before the courts for his actions.

[@LunnarisLP]

Maybe the copilot or pilot was like "are we cleared to land" and somehow one guy just understood "cleared to land". there was like this chinese airline with a funny video where ground keeps asking "Are you cleared into the ramp?" and they are like "roger cleared into the ramp"

[@paulis7319]

@@LunnarisLP I just watched video of the Chinese pilot a few days ago. Hilarious! lol

[@derekjeffords345]

Controller could have used the light gun but pilot still should have went around

[@Boodieman72]

Time to copy a phone number.

[@aprianto1985]

so weird situation

[@JustSayN2O]

No Brasher warning? ("Possible pilot deviation . . .")

[@christopherhayes2187]

He may have been guided in by a guy on a ham radio.

[@hatpeach1]

That's his best lie; hard to refute.

[@mrpstapley]

That actually happened in Buenos Aires. (I can't remember when) A man with a radio was clearing planes for landing and takeoff with his handheld. He was finally caught and arrested.

[@therealxunil2]

Horse hockey! They messed up.

[@ericdoe2318]

Turns out he had a mouse in his pocket….

[@imaPangolin]

Oops

[@bunglejoy3645]

Well mechanics need to check planes radios and ATC need to check theie equipment and records to see if he had tfied or yo ring tound nearest yower and say wasche on uour frequency

[@johnbrickel6446]

Flashing light?

[@flyfishizationjones4940]

Whoever you were talking to the whole time- did they tell you that you were cleared to land runway 11 at Bozeman? If so, that’s a really weird coincidence.

[@GreenCrim]

If you were talking the whole time but not getting any responses wouldn't you maybe go back to approach, or if that didn't work squawk 7600, and maybe not land until you heard clear to land? Oh I know, he thought it was a CTAF and no one was around.

[@whitelotus1960]

Bad enough to watch entitled drivers in cars feel they can do what they want, it's another thing to listen to a pilot do whatever he wants!!!

[@hanovergreen4091]

Wonder if someone offered to pay his fine.

[@paulminshall8793]

Probably a bush pilot. Just making a pass over the airfield to clear the sheep.

[@Damone7653]

I haven't seen Clearance in months.

[@jimflath1125]

Curious why the controller didn't initiate nordo/light-gun procedures and either clear him or give the red-light go-around.

[@patstiff]

Hard to give a go-around directive to someone who is not hearing you to begin with.

[@RR-zq3mk]

And to think these pilots have to jump through lots of hoops just to be lucky to get an interview with that place……………………………………..

[@biffhenderson1144]

At what point did they hear "Cleared to land" from anyone? Even a trucker with a CB radio?

[@markm5287]

He says he was talking the entire time during approach, and that is absolutely irrelevant. You can talk till your lungs explode, but you don't land without clearance!!

[@romeoramos6650]

So 529, you were talking the whole time? During final? With whom. Which tower

[@Infinity19335]

According to Air Law an aircraft with lost comms which seems to try to land on a runway should be allowed to do so. I guess everything was in line with regulations here. Even when it seems unlikely, maybe they really had some radio problems on final.

[@robertscott2269]

Lost comms which suddenly began working the moment the wheels hit the ground? Clearly this pilot was doing whatever he wanted.

[@jimmorgan5612]

OK, now who cleared you to land?

[@bdcochran01]

Why would the Tower have to give a phone number? Hadn't the pilot already memorized it ?

[@Flies2FLL]

At the airline that I fly for, we only turn on the taxi light when we are cleared to land. As such, I am in the habit of looking up at that at 500 feet to see if the pilot monitoring has turned it on. If not I query and/or go around. While Jetspeed was completely in the wrong....The tower controller could have cleared them to land over the radio and then asked them to call when they were on the ground for the obligatory ass-reaming. We're supposed to work as a team here, and that certainly includes calling the next frequency when told to do so!

[@buddycheck84]

Thanks very much for getting us and the cargo safely to the destination. In obvious deference to your experiece and skillset, I still fail to see why clearance to land should be granted to an incoming pilot who is unwilling or unable to exercise his mandated requirement to follow established procedure. Especially with his clearly inacurate comment that, we were talking the whole time. Kinda like the Rules of the Road, wouldn't you say? Granted there's some confusion ..... say, Right on Red or Left on Red, proceeding onto a One Way. By design though, everyone knows what to expect from the other driver......... for the most part. Cheers and thanks again. 🙏👍

[@bubbaoriley7864]

I do the same thing and when I’m PM I call either 3 green and cleared to land or 3 green and not yet cleared to land. Same calls at 500’. No excuse for landing without clearance.

[@lbowsk]

I have heard several controllers say that you'd be better off just landing at that point. Your GA will tend to make a bad situation worse.

[@Flies2FLL]

@@lbowsk I don't agree with that. I'm not sure why they didn't contact the tower, but if you don't have clearance don't land! A go-around is going to cost you some fuel but if they cannot contact you they will simply give light signals.

[@lbowsk]

@@Flies2FLL Yes. You said that in your first post. I'm just giving you MY opinion, and that of several of the Line Check Airman that I asked at my airline, and that of several controllers who I have spoken with over my career. This including a FPL controller at IAD turned Airline pilot. I am now retired and flying Bizjets PT. At LGA or EWR (or any other big airport with one or more others in close proximity) if you go around you create a hell of a lot more mess for ATC and your fellow pilots than you would had you just landed. ATC builds and protects a lost you a slot for you for landing. Use it. You might be the one whose NORDO, and now if you go around you're really going to dork things up. Ask controllers. Ask your LCA's. I did this early in my career at KDCA. I Promptly called the tower to offer my mea culpa after I landed. This was an airport that had 3 intersecting runways. "It's no big deal. We knew you were coming. It happens. Please be more careful in the future". That was in 1986 and I did.

[@SomeDumUsrName]

Was talking to him the entire time? LOL. Notice he did not say he was given clearance to land in that imaginary conversation. omG and he acts like there is not a problem. I swear....Between him and people like him and the Boeing fiasco, I don't even want to fly with anyone commercially any more.

[@Molon_Labe1776]

This one is older.

[@darylseward573]

It would be great if there was some follow or lessons learned from these.

[@svenf1]

"We were talking to you the whole time" ... that makes zero sense.

[@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock]

Professional but quite dull. I prefer angry exchanges

[@gryper1690]

Who the hell was he "talking to the whole time"? Who was giving him landing clearance?

[@pfield39]

OK, so the tower controller had no contact with the Jetspeed, had no idea if the aircraft was flying normally, could clear the runway safely or wasn't going to end up in a smoking ball at the threshold, but still cleared 2 following aircraft to land behind it. One day not ensuring that a runway is actually vacant and safe to land on, in accordance with what seems to be standard US practice, is going to kill a lot of people, to the delight of many lawyers. Might multiple landing clearances have been a factor in the night time runway disaster at LAX some years ago? Maybe not, but they are another hole in the Swiss cheese. The tower controller was the epitome of calm and professionalism.

[@christianbarnay2499]

Both aircrafts are miles away from the runway and both pilots still have a lot to do inside their planes to prepare for the landing. It's way safer to clear them now, let them prepare and cancel the clearance last minute if anything bad happens with the other plane than delaying the clearance and cause them to either rush their preparation or waste extra time to prepare properly. Also not giving the clearances means both aircrafts will regularly call back to get those clearances. Giving both clearances now keeps the frequency free so the controller can concentrate on dealing with the problematic plane without interference. That's a win-win for everyone.

[@aviatoraw]

It can happen. Rushing checklists, unfamiliar airport, fatigue.

[@charlesfaure1189]

lack of professionalism...

[@LunnarisLP]

yeah sometimes I forget that a red light means I have to stop as well. It can happen, unfamiliar city... No it cant.. Landing without a clearance is the one thing that cant just "happen"... You hardly have to do anything checklist related once you are on final, you literally get handed over to tower and then get your landing clearance. The only excuse would be that you indeed had a problem, but in that case you probably shouldnt continue your approach while trying to fix it with no landing clearance, but clearly he was talking on the radio "all the time" so kinda hard to say..

[@BaldurNorddahl]

@@LunnarisLP people run reds all the time due to stress and other factors. You simply blank out for a while and run everything on mental autopilot. We don't know - maybe there is something going on with this guy.

[@don7294]

@@BaldurNorddahl And the earth is flat! Hope you are not a pilot if you think your lame excuses for landing without clearance can be simply explained away.

[@CAPEjkg]

Too many of these country club attitude pilots in the air. They are gonna do whatever they want and claim radio issues!

[@RaceBanner_]

My ex is a pilot and she never talked to me either.

[@georgesheffield1580]

Jetspeed ,rich ,stoned entitled ,???

[@sthomas6369]

Dang it he didn't say "Possible Pilot Deviation"!!!

[@alexmiller7721]

Meanwhile, somebody using a Baofeng radio in Beijing is still waiting for the aircraft he cleared to land a couple of days ago,

[@markg999]

Why not just give him clearance to land..he gave to a aircraft behind him. Could assume radio possibly down for jet.

[@robertscott2269]

You don't clear someone to land just because they aren't talking. If they have an issue you clear them once they get in the pattern and aren't responding.

[@eglide73]

DEI

[@F105Thundr]

You know what would have really been impressive by the controller is if he would just have issued a clearance to land over the frequency if able, which he clearly was able to do, or a green light gun. Always assuming the worst, rather than working the situation, then finding out later.

[@smark1180]

Man up ffs.

[@jamesmurray3948]

There have been cases where the freq was misdialed and some cretin on that frequency played along as a tower controller.

[@Republic3D]

In a situation like this, tower could have cleared him to land regardless of not hearing anything from them. I've seen situations where tower has cleared someone to land even though they weren't in direct communication, in case it was an emergency, faulty equipment or any of the sorts.

[@BobDobbs681]

Does the Supreme Court's "Chevron deference" decision reduce the authority of the FAA and ATC?

[@toastehh09]

US law has been consolidated to 'i'm a dictator screw you'; this is what you voted for

[@detritus23]

No.

[@BobDobbs681]

@@toastehh09 So pilots can do what they want regardless of ATC?

[@JDrapic]

To my understanding, it doesn't immediately reduce the authority, but regulations set by them can be challenged in courts so different jurisdictions might have different interpretations or even declare the regs "unconstitutional" altogether. A different ruling nuked their ability to issue fines without a jury trial as well.

[@detritus23]

The "Chevron deference" meant that Executive Branch agencies could use their expertise in interpreting vaguely drafted law when preparing regulations. (Congress passes laws--i.e., The United States Code or U.S.C.--and Agencies prepare regulations--i.e., The Code of Federal Regulations or C.F.R.--.) The ruling basically took that power away from the Agencies. This means nothing for the FAA in terms of its regulatory power (really the DOT's regulatory power), other than it cannot promulgate regulations beyond the text of the laws without court interpretation. Since the ATC is not a regulatory agency, but rather a function under the FAA, this means nothing to their operation, except if the DOT's/FAA's regulations are overruled by a court.

[@sparky6200]

Not cool man. 2-person crew... I get it - all the automation must have had you stress-overloaded.. ya'll fucked up big time. "Trying" to call & not getting a landing clearance is NOT "getting landing clearance". Abort. Part 135 you're gonna have more than a conversation.

[@lasagnapotato3853]

The faa will still blame the controllers for 1: approach not correcting the pilot for ignoring the communication transfer; and 2: tower not attempting to establish one way communication with "if you hear me, rock your wings" Even though its obviously the pilots fault I'm certain the babysitters will always be the blame

[@christianbarnay2499]

It seems you missed the segment starting at 1:05 where both controllers do exactly those calls. First: Tower calling "Jetspeed 29 if you hear this transmission IDENT." IDENT means "press the IDENT button on your transponder" which the safe way of doing it with an aircraft equipped with a transponder. If the aircraft has a mechanical issue it can be dangerous to ask them to rock the wings. Second: Approach repeating the frequency transfer call.

[@MARKPlaygroundT]

Sh*t happens.

[@Falcon-um7vo]

No, this is not a case of that. He clearly never heard "cleared to land" yet landed anyway.

[@lacnoslen5644]

well..when he don't talk to you while landing,is because he stole it,is all.