William Haggas has a smart one on his hands, as Dante winner Economics lands the Group 2 Prix Guillaume d'Ornano in good style at Deauville under Tom Marquand. Could he be a Qatar Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe contender?
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@leesog320326 күн бұрын
The first horse that came to mind when I saw this performance was Peintre Celebre, not that Economics is anywhere near his level yet but the power and the way he gallops reminded me of the great horse and to my astonishment, upon checking his pedigree, he's actually a grandson of his! Amazing! 😁
@Elliot-T26 күн бұрын
Tom gave him a lot to do turning in. Best 3yo this season imo.
@careyroberts392426 күн бұрын
By a country mile my friend!
@leonosbourne676226 күн бұрын
Very good! Not sure as good as city of troy.
@johnnyboy660826 күн бұрын
Cleary he’s not the best 3yo
@robertdelacy343426 күн бұрын
@@careyroberts3924he's definitely not the best 3 year old c'mon be serious
@careyroberts392426 күн бұрын
@@robertdelacy3434 I think he would beat City of Troy.....Care to name any others?
@craigpope858026 күн бұрын
He's very good Haggas takes his time with his top horses this horse will only get better he's a beast of a horse aswell
@robertsanders837126 күн бұрын
Economics has a real good engine but surely a mile and a half is his trip. Let's hope Haggas doesn't become over protective of the horse and limit opportunities for him to reach his potential and please and amaze his fans.
@spikec180325 күн бұрын
Of course that's what's gonna happen it's horse racing
@simonjones30926 күн бұрын
Now that’s a good colt 👍🏻
@JPwhoknows26 күн бұрын
High class
@MordechaiTheFoul26 күн бұрын
Reasonably smooth victory after a fairly long lay off for this good looking colt. Potential winner of the Irish Champion / Champion Stakes.
@johnnyboy660826 күн бұрын
Jayarebe comes out of this with great credit he was up on the pace throughout and kicked for home early enough.
@christroytrigger.141926 күн бұрын
Was you watching a different race. There is no way that horse was on the pace in fact he only fully started to assert 1 fur out. Think I d watch it again.
@johnnyboy660826 күн бұрын
@@christroytrigger.1419he was sat 2nd with no cover throughout and was sent for home first he was there to be shot at
@johnnyboy660826 күн бұрын
@@christroytrigger.1419the winner and 3rd came from last place jayarebe the only one up there who didn’t fold
@kevinfraser726 күн бұрын
I said after the Dante, because of his galloping style he looks like a St Leger horse. But the owners/trainer have entered him for everything but. Obviously difficult to train but huge potential. They cannot geld him because his value could be enormous. Hope he has a successful Autumn
@andrewwilliams428326 күн бұрын
His layoff wasn't due to injury, he was held back as he is still growing. This is a G1 Horse.
@Thomas-vg8ov26 күн бұрын
@@andrewwilliams4283It was also due to the fact that he had a nose bleed after the Dante.
@Thomas-vg8ov26 күн бұрын
@Kevin You can blame them for not going for the Leger, there's still questions about him getting 12 furlongs and many believe that the Leger is too close to the Arc, which I'm sure they are considering, apart from that, they can always supplement for the Leger if they wish?
@andrewwilliams428326 күн бұрын
@@Thomas-vg8ov usually a burst blood vessell, that doesnt keep a horse out 3 months. This was always the plan, listen to William at York. They put him away for 6 weeks.
@johnsonkevin125 күн бұрын
Trainer has said irish campion and/or Champion
@GoofBall-se6bo26 күн бұрын
This is a proper horse. Arc contender for sure. BTW did anyone notice this was a G2 worth £190,000? Good dough eh?
@Dwayndibb20 күн бұрын
France the money is good the last few years especially
@PeterDawson-ii5ss26 күн бұрын
Top class 3 year old that
@edenjs150326 күн бұрын
If he stays the extra 2f, he looks a serious Arc contender. Though with his connections, not 100% confident he would go there!
@bclaw3526 күн бұрын
No he's a gelding he not permitted to run in arc
@robertdelacy343426 күн бұрын
@@bclaw35 he's a colt what are you talking about
@deniswallace-vp9tb26 күн бұрын
He's a serious horse if he stays he'll win the arc
@johnsonkevin125 күн бұрын
Irish Champion and/or Ascot Champion. No Arc this year
@xlbully713920 күн бұрын
Strong galloper ❤❤
@madtingsadting26 күн бұрын
Horse has a massive stride. Feels like the owners are going to wrap him in cotton wool though. Hopefully he’ll be able to realise his potential. No way he’ll run in the arc on bad ground.
@themarketm838226 күн бұрын
A horse like Bedtime Story wins at Ascot by 10 lengths starting his run from the front, goes off next time against tough competition at 1/6. Ecconomics wins at York by 6L from the rear and he goes off at Evens? Steal of a price for a very classy horse who's proved a lot already.
@tomwelshy275926 күн бұрын
I got 6/4
@johnsonkevin125 күн бұрын
Bedtime Story is a filly. Also that comparison of prices is ridiculous. Not sure what your angle is.
@themarketm838225 күн бұрын
@@johnsonkevin1 My apologies, you know it all 🙏
@kristopherwhite59125 күн бұрын
Horse racing is so corrupt
@cheapcharlie421026 күн бұрын
Simply inexplicable why Haggas, didn't take Economics back to York, to take on City Of Troy or think to enter him into the Derby. A bit strange
@johnsonkevin125 күн бұрын
Running him at York would have been crazy
@janetmarshall717126 күн бұрын
We Need More Winners Like Economics In The Racing World!!
@kingkonho26 күн бұрын
This beats city of Troy
@Thomas-vg8ov26 күн бұрын
A little workman like but quite understandable for a horse who has been of the course for nearly three months.
@tobidunlea216426 күн бұрын
Workmanlike…he’s won it comfortably! No doubt rusty but he hasn’t slogged through it whatsoever. A potential star - not many better horses around
@Thomas-vg8ov26 күн бұрын
@@tobidunlea2164 No, he's won it snugly in the end but he had to work a little for his victory, he did do well to come from so far back but he was under a little pressure two out, should be interesting to see if he can build on it?
@nightowl745926 күн бұрын
Did well, I thought he was going to get beaten a furlong and a half out but won it well in the end.
@robertdelacy343426 күн бұрын
Do you think he'll get a mile an half?
@nightowl745926 күн бұрын
@@robertdelacy3434 Quite possible? I didn't see anything here to say he will not, but you never know until they try them?
@robertdelacy343426 күн бұрын
@@nightowl7459 on the dams side of the pedigree ud say definitely but hes by night of thunder
@nightowl745926 күн бұрын
@@robertdelacy3434 That's the problem, he could be a nearly horse, I've seen a few who get beyond ten furlongs but just don't really get 12 furlongs, but I do think there's more chance that he will stay 12 furlongs than he won't.
@robertdelacy343426 күн бұрын
@@nightowl7459 it's starting to look a decent season
@linusboyz26 күн бұрын
Wondering if he could have still won if jockey held on to him for an extra 50m before playing him. When jockey said go, it felt a little early.
@careyroberts392426 күн бұрын
He has an entry for the Judmonte at York but not listed in Sky's antepost betting :-(
@tobidunlea216426 күн бұрын
@@careyroberts3924 think that will come too soon
@nightowl745926 күн бұрын
@@tobidunlea2164True, he's come hear instead, Hagges is talking about the Irish Champion being his next natural target.
@conanmclynn661526 күн бұрын
That race is in 5 days time. Zero chance of him turning up there.
@careyroberts392426 күн бұрын
@@conanmclynn6615 Ah! Of course- I thought it was the week after! Thank you for pointing that out to me 🙂
@user-ug1jj2if7q26 күн бұрын
Hasn't run a race on good to firm going yet...
@Essydyk26 күн бұрын
Took a long time to get there. Not sure a slowly run 1 1/4 m is what he needs now but Haggas is so cautious nowadays it wouldn't surprise me if that is what they stick at this season.
@johnball547626 күн бұрын
Horse shit the horse will run another 1or2 times this season
@Essydyk26 күн бұрын
@@johnball5476 I never said it wouldn't run but I said it would stick at 1 1/4m when it's clearly crying out for 2f extra. That seems to be the case as it's next run is going to the Irish Champion Stakes.
@johnsonkevin125 күн бұрын
10f is perfect for him
@johncopeland382622 күн бұрын
Wow .. a giant stride there ! Will take some beating over 1mile 4 furlongs races ...
@user-jx7xg3vq2q24 күн бұрын
Can't believe he did not run in top races he the best horse in training will murder aiden o brien over hyped horses
@stephenclayton547425 күн бұрын
Just seen an Arc winner. No doubts about that! 😎✌️
@contrail__26 күн бұрын
Post frankel
@Ramyarimar25 күн бұрын
😊😅
@duanedurkan356526 күн бұрын
He beat mediocre types on the day, and the evens odds were generous. He should have gone for the Derby. Nobody knows if he's better than City of Troy because his owners are wrapping him in cotton wool. Running him in a mickey mouse race in France instead of a proper race like the Derby
@Thomas-vg8ov26 күн бұрын
I agree with them not going for the Derby, they withdrew him from the race before he won the Dante because they didn't believe he would handle the course and he bled from the nose after the Dante, that's why they hadn't run him since.
@duanedurkan356526 күн бұрын
@@Thomas-vg8ov I read horse racing news regularly and this is the first time I heard about Economics bleeding from the nose after the Dante. It's understandable they would be cautious going forward if that was the case. I thought they swerved the Derby because of concerns over the horse's ability to get the trip. Now that the horse has proven its wellbeing, let's hope we can finally see what it can do in a good race against proper horses.
@Thomas-vg8ov26 күн бұрын
@@duanedurkan3565 Yeah, that's what I read a while ago just after the race, but they had already pulled him from the Derby a few days before the Dante giving the explanation that they didn't want to be tempted if he won the Dante as they felt they course just wouldn't suit him, I have read today in the Post that they are favouring the Irish Champion next.
@duanedurkan356526 күн бұрын
@@Thomas-vg8ov Good info. Obviously they could have supplemented him for the Derby but if he bled after the Dante they might have felt it wasn't worth the risk. I'd have loved to have seen him put it up to City of Troy. It's a pity it didn't happen. He closed the gap well today and seemed more than capable of seeing out an extra 2 furlongs. Nobody can honestly say if he could beat City of Troy because they are both very capable horses. Well explained👍. Let's hope we see a showdown before too long.
@Thomas-vg8ov26 күн бұрын
@@duanedurkan3565 Hopefully he will remain well and they will meet soon, but we will see if City Of Troy is playing his part next Wednesday. 👍
@christroytrigger.141926 күн бұрын
This doesn't have a change of gear in the blink of an eye. Infact this performance was ordinary work manliness at best.
@andrewwilliams428326 күн бұрын
Was off a slow pace, more of a galloper than a turn of foot type horse anyway.