Head of Ireland’s Catholic Church apologises to survivors of mother and baby homes - BBC News

The head of the Irish Catholic Church has unreservedly apologised to the survivors of church-run homes for unmarried women and their children.
It follows the publication of an inquiry into the homes, which also acted as orphanages and adoption centres. It reveals deprivation, appalling abuse and shocking levels of infant mortality. Around 9,000 infants died in the homes between the 1920s and 1990s.
Archbishop Eamon Martin said “the Church was clearly part of that culture in which people were frequently stigmatised, judged and rejected.”
Sophie Raworth presents BBC News at Ten reporting by Ireland correspondent Chris Page.
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[@1Thedairy]

It’s hard to imagine such cruelty inflicted on innocent souls in the name of religion. What a hypocritical sick society!

[@LizRoe-ky4hr]

LeBot Yes I totally agree & yet even in 2021 we have collingdale 1 advocating just that.

[@Kitiwake]

I disagree. You didn't read the report.

[@LizRoe-ky4hr]

Pat Ahern Well why don’t you give us your interpretation of the facts.Throw away remarks are never impressive.

[@jamesbarber2882]

It's not society the people of Ireland are wonderful ,it's the Catholic Church .It took control ,Power corrupts absolute power ...you know the rest

[@ShoJ369]

I'm Irish and Catholic, I agree with you completely, but only those employed there would have known this went on.and they'd have been threatened with the sack had they have spoken out. The public were not aware of the behaviour from The Church. Those poor children, and how they suffered is deplorable,as for those who inflicted this on Children, know nothing of God. In saying that, the same happened in Church of Ireland and Salvation army homes too, It can never be excused. This is Ireland shame 😢

[@FerrisBueller468]

An apology isn't enough

[@saxglend9439]

Has Islam apologised?

[@paulgibbons2320]

@@saxglend9439 Islam never appologises. Repentance matters. Appologies are meaningless.

[@paulgibbons2320]

Not the teachings of Jesus that. Without understanding the Deuteonomists your statement is meaningless dribble.

[@paulgibbons2320]

@@jackiechan2558 Jesus condemned all sexual activity out of wedlock as fornication. A Sin.

[@sadiqismail6372]

@@paulgibbons2320 it literally tell you if you rape women you have to marry her. What an evil book

[@bewarethesavagejaw6803]

The Catholic Church seem to be forever apologising.

[@nexus4googleplay612]

when they aren't covering up their crimes.

[@johnb6723]

Of course, they aren't really sorry. They never are.

[@anonUK]

In 2000 years, there's usually a lot to apologise for. People in the Medieval and Renaissance periods used brutal and sadistic methods of torture and execution, all too often deployed in service of the church. The British state has existed for just over 300 years and look what we got up to when we ran an empire. The modern French state, dating from 1789, also committed atrocities, as did most other Western European nations (don't mention the war!) The difference is, the nation states and empires weren't claiming to be speaking directly for God and re-enacting (or for Catholics, re-performing) Jesus' Last Supper every day, or at least every week.

[@nancyreichenbach2938]

If you are paying close attention, the catholic church has closed churches, and their schools are closing in record speed. John W. Hallahan Catholic Girls High School in Philadelphia. Was the first all girls catholic high in the nation and will be shutting its doors forever this June. Among hundreds that have shut down.

[@marymargaretlindstrom4381]

@@nancyreichenbach2938 Good!

[@domskinner7887]

I will never understand the Irish government's stance beside this church. How many times must they harm your people before you demand wholesale reform?

[@paulgibbons2320]

You mistake government for people of no faith.

[@domskinner7887]

@@paulgibbons2320 uh, no. You mistake people who have been fooled by a teenagers excuse for being pregnant 2000 years ago as being right no matter what. The Government has never held the Church to account for these things, they've persecuted individuals but never the church for the systematic spread of this activity.

[@paulgibbons2320]

@@domskinner7887 same as they won't condemn the whole of Islam for a terror attack.

[@paulgibbons2320]

@@domskinner7887 but I 100% agree. Accountability for these crimes has in no way gone far enough. An the culture of covering up till perpetrators are dead is completely aborant.

[@domskinner7887]

@@paulgibbons2320 we consistently ask for reform of Islamic nations and have been a part of the UN coalition to push reform in the religion. I am asking for them to hold the Catholic Church under the same rules as the ones they help to impose on those Muslim institutions. I feel like you are not educated in this topic sir.

[@janmarsh]

I know of a young child's experience in a children's home in England. He often wet the bed. The Nuns would slap and humiliate the poor little soul each time it happened. Early seventies, I often wonder where he is today, or even if he reached adulthood.

[@lfeb]

So disgusting and horrific to treat a child that way! 😭

[@robertschofield1560]

The BBC had to report this They could not repress it any longer I suspect the numbers are much, much larger Remember what the BBC do to children Hypocrisy of the first order

[@squantum001]

The people who committed these crimes are dead. The church people who are apologizing would have done the the same thing. They would cover the crimes to protect the Roman Catholic Church from embarrassment.

[@johnb6723]

They're still at it, and always will be.

[@tracyharrington6976]

JWH some of the people who committed these ceimes are very much alive and still denying any wrong doing

[@jackiechan2558]

@@paulgibbons2320 Were the babies and children wizards as well?

[@paulgibbons2320]

@@jackiechan2558 I would not know but God does. He can see all ends. Past, present and future. Thats why only he is qualified stand in judgement. Thats why we can't judge him by mortal standards. He himself offered up his own Son to be crusified and killed. He himself has made difficult sacrifices. He asks alot of us. Great sacrifice. But he offers the great reward of eternal life. Nobody said an immortal God has to be fair. To think you can judge a God is the very height of human arrogance and egotism.

[@paulgibbons2320]

@@jackiechan2558 God says the penalty for sin is death. That might not be something he is in control of. That might just be the way things work. But he continually warns us against our sinful nature.

[@Toxicwastgg]

A horrific cover up brought to you by the people who covered for Saville and his ilk for decades.

[@lilmonkey9919]

The Catholic Church has a lot to answer for!!!

[@AJT86]

So does every other religion. They all need to pay for their sins.

[@kevinhall8555]

@@AJT86 pray?..pointless exercise to their mythical being

[@AJT86]

@@kevinhall8555 PAY

[@kevinhall8555]

@@AJT86 oh yes good idea

[@saxglend9439]

The Catholic Church genocided Protestants in Ulster.

[@SamratTheEmperor]

An apology isn't enough..not by a long shot

[@paulgibbons2320]

Same could be said for Islamic terror attacks. We never do get appologies for those.

[@daddada2984]

Catholicism gives bad image to religion, Christianity, & God. Stay away to catholicism.

[@nancylee7435]

Justice will never be felt by those victims!..will their souls ever rest in peace?

[@thereeds8021]

Hopefully now these things has revealed!!! May all souls are now in peace and free from that nasty place. God has to unlock all these black mysteries of the church.

[@LizRoe-ky4hr]

Jackie chan are you out of your demented mind you are seriously advocating that a female should be forced to marry their rapist?!! Well in the modern world rape is a crime punishable by law, Pedophilia is a crime punishable by law. So in your warped mind if a man rapes a 10 year old girl are you advocating that this child be married off to a pedophile?!!

[@93anthonyseanhowell99]

JackieChan shut your regliously demented mouth ya bollocks..

[@joemcnerney8765]

Hopefully now thousands of Irish people will have the courage to leave the Catholic church

[@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626]

No, you can’t officially ever leave the Catholic Church

[@joemcnerney8765]

@@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626 Yes you CAN leave the Catholic Church! The Church is not Hotel California !

[@edwardnestor37]

What most people do not realise is that once the "CATHOLIC CHURCH" has you name on its books, by their law.. You can not leave. I DENOUNCE THE "CATHOLIC CHURCH" ITS TEACHINGS AND ITS POPE. An Irish man who has suffered at the hands of the catholics.

[@jaelansibilly9942]

I praise to them and family of all those who passed away

[@gregorypeck2415]

Do the Irish ever remember the horrors and cruelty acts they did to the Jamaicans in the 18th century? Many of the remnants of elders left have vivid memories of information passed down of inhuman acts of injustice brought upon the enslaved Africans. Could it be the reason why so many Jamaicans were given Irish names ?

[@sailamou9667]

Without the Catholic Church the world would be just perfect. No wars, no thousand children starving, no homeless people, NHS would be perfect and cures accessible to anyone, no Death penalty in some States ( USA among them), no global warming , no pollution.... Everything is perfect without the Catholic Church. A perfect world!!!!

[@ilhamwae125]

wow that's more cruel than terrorists, babies and children i can't imagine it

[@thereeds8021]

These are the men who they say "we are the servants of God" but their heart is far away from God. !!

[@sofa-lofa4241]

It's the same thing they have been doing for years, my great uncle George and his younger brother were taken in by the Catholic Church in the 1920's after the family could not afford to feed and cloth him, his father lost his job and could not afford to bring up 4 boys, they offered to 'give him a better life'... Sounds great... But wasn't, He ended up being sent to Australia at the age of 14 without the families knowledge or consent, he was sold on a dock side to the highest bidder, a farmer, who took him home and the next day told him to saddle up and ride round the farm following the fence, fixing the broken wire as he went, he was told to ride till sunset then he should see a shack, rest there for the night and carry on the next day till sunset again, it wasn't a small farm, probably thousands of acres, That was his first day on the job, the first of many, he was at least treated well by the farmer and his wife, but it wasn't something he signed up for, he was sold as a slave into that life, He told us the story on his return to the UK when he was around 60 years old, he wasn't bitter about it as he knew it could have been much worse if he lived under the 'protection' of the church for much longer, some of his friends in the children's home didn't fare as well, The Catholic Church has so much to answer for... And he was one of the lucky ones, we later found out his younger brother ended up in Canada, never to be seen again My heart goes out to the mothers and children who ended up like this... They did nothing to deserve such a tragic end

[@carrot4thought]

It's so sad. Please Pray for all children in the world that have to suffered from society.

[@nexus4googleplay612]

Hopes and prayers: the answer from people who don't care enough to take real life actions to help others.

[@user-rv8wb1nl1b]

PRAY ! are you insane , there is nothing to pray to ! thats how mind control starts . . . . . . . .RELIGION !

[@sydlawson3181]

I would but Jupiter is mad at me atm

[@mihaiifrim6896]

@@sydlawson3181 maybe praying is the problem not the solution

[@sydlawson3181]

@@mihaiifrim6896 lol tell that to the Gauls

[@s.andrewchandler-byrne4611]

It's to late for an apology. Save your apologies. The Catholic church reputation is so badly damaged it's nearly finished. My Father is from the Republic of Ireland and a shamed.

[@apollocreed5391]

At least it wasn't pedos this time, right BBC 😂

[@siphsdemeyer5189]

If it wasn't for my mom I would have not been here we need to remember who got us here. We need to love our mother's sisters wives grandma Aunty's and any woman. And has for children it's really sad to see this stats I'm overwhelmed with tears and emotion. But we can help in the smallest ways of just telling our loved ones I love you. I'll keep praying for the woman and children who are treated badly because nobody deserves to be in those circumstances.

[@stariehearts2366]

You wouldn't be hear without your farther either lol. Your farther can't be that bad, after all your mother did decide to reproduce with him 🤣

[@ricardomorais420]

Ah religion. Come my children... Thank god I'm atheist...

[@RevanBC]

the irony

[@user-rv8wb1nl1b]

thank Dog !

[@hkicgh7277]

Don't be ridiculous, you don't just blame all religions for this act, do you?

[@skyebates246]

Hahaha 😂 yh same

[@skyebates246]

@@hkicgh7277 Sorry but it's true religious countries are often behind. More progressive countries.

[@paulrillo1229]

as regards the infants buried at tuam mother and babie home heres what should be done a crimescene tape placed all around the grounds and an external international policeforce called in someone like the FBI to process the crimescene

[@jessiwynn1563]

How very sad.

[@PO-zk4vs]

2021 and the Catholic Church has yet to clean and keep its house in order!! BEYOND SHAME!!

[@mojojeinxs9960]

What do we expect? Most Priests Bishops Cardinals and the Pope live in absolute luxury when faithful followers are surviving. Why would they care about unwed mothers and their children.

[@hydrophobicwhale729]

The Catholic Church is 2000 years old and it's most shameful period of time was between the 1920s and 1990s in Ireland. It coincides with the formation of the Irish free state. There was no healthcare, education etc. so the church stepped in and 'helped' but really they just used their new power to impose an evil like no other. This is basically a history lesson but there is light at the end of the tunnel. Nowadays the Catholic Church have no power here in Ireland whatsoever and have become a dwindling minority.

[@a1dreams709]

These catholics have been doing so uninterrupted from the beginning.

[@naturanihilfrustrafacit5619]

Fu*k you. What does it mean these catholics??? Every person is different.

[@manithangavalu7885]

How true! They are Great in covering up. The VATICAN is a hub for all sorts of ABUSE in the name of God.

[@a1dreams709]

@@naturanihilfrustrafacit5619 i meant THESE CATHOLICS fuck you cant read or something?

[@saxglend9439]

We need a real Christian church.⛪

[@johnb6723]

Church of England aka Anglo-Catholic.

[@manithangavalu7885]

@@johnb6723 Absolutely, isn't that the truth.

[@naturanihilfrustrafacit5619]

@@johnb6723 of course, you are the best and also a superior race.

[@kevinhall8555]

No we dont..the record of christianity is abhorent

[@saxglend9439]

@@kevinhall8555 Christianity isn't abhorrent. Most human behaviour is abhorrent.

[@Greenpoloboy3]

It being hidden for so long shows how powerful the Catholic Church was and their grip over people

[@Greenpoloboy3]

@@jackiechan2558 the Amalekites must have been evil

[@GeoffSh4rt]

Do heads of the Catholic church ever do anything other than apologise?

[@annalieff-saxby568]

I ran away to Ireland in '65 (don't ask). When the Guards picked me up, I was held in a. nunnery until they could work out flying me home. I witnessed, first hand, the brutality of the nuns towards the girls in their power. I pity, from the depths of my heart, the young women and their children made to suffer at the hands of the supposedly religious.

[@putinsgaytwin4272]

If you can, could you describe what you witnessed?

[@annalieff-saxby568]

@@putinsgaytwin4272 I rember one nun beating a girl with a wooden.coat hanger, and another dragging a screaming girl along the ground by her hair.

[@putinsgaytwin4272]

@@annalieff-saxby568 Jesus. Absolutely disgusting

[@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626]

Imagine running away as a illegal immigrant and complaining that u were deported to were u belong

[@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626]

@@putinsgaytwin4272 not true

[@Mynx31]

An empire of evil?

[@Dan-zc7ut]

Ireland

[@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626]

Uhm no...

[@Mynx31]

@@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626 Are you well rested? Impervious to fungal foot order?

[@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626]

@@Mynx31 the fuck are u on about mate

[@Mynx31]

@@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626 Ergonomics equals this to fail state one.

[@Marco_Polo790]

No wonder people bin west getting more spiritual and religious but churches staying empty.

[@bradleylappin6107]

True man so true

[@daddada2984]

Catholicism gives bad image to religion, Christianity, & God. Stay away from catholicism.

[@paulholloway1447]

Sick, disgusting total murder.

[@chwas9194]

Absolutely disgusting

[@garywhittaker3556]

The Queen Mother's cousin was locked up in a lunatic asylum and forgotten about!!! There's a film called 'The Magdalene Laundries' that illustrates this.

[@saxglend9439]

Thanks for your input.

[@faithlesshound5621]

It was a mental handicap institution in the UK, which had nothing to do with Magdalene laundries in Ireland, other than the common theme of being "Put Away."

[@garywhittaker3556]

@@faithlesshound5621 Maybe I should have split the comments into 2 separate posts for the

[@garywhittaker3556]

@@faithlesshound5621 Labels don't matter, the Queen Mother's cousin was locked away because she was an unmarried mother and I don't recall the father (whoever he was or the circumstances?) being punished, likewise!!! Hypocrisy all the way!!!

[@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626]

Has nothing to do with children....

[@jornalistarenatarosa4205]

It' so horrible and sad. Poor women. Poor kids.

[@maxwellmorgan5535]

I hope I don't bother you. I was trying to find some old friends when I saw your beside my wall and I could not help but write you to know more about you and I am Scottish. Here is my email [e-mail]. I hope you don't mind if we can write to know each other at your leisure time

[@voulathomacos-lagonas6133]

How could these nuns have done this .....they were women .....where was their compassion....SHAME

[@jzthompson9598]

Lots of them were forced to become nuns against their will, and some of those babies were theirs.

[@voulathomacos-lagonas6133]

@@jzthompson9598 whichever way they killed babies ......

[@jzthompson9598]

@@voulathomacos-lagonas6133 As they continue to do today, through shame. It's horrific.

[@sands7779]

The conditions in the homes were atrocious. It is shameful episode for Irish society as the families of the women and children in these homes did not or would not have supported them which is why they were in these homes. For most of the period they would have received no support from the state. Shame on all of us.

[@faithlesshound5621]

Part of the fraud was that the State did indeed support these women and children, but the money went directly to the nuns, who pretended the church was paying.

[@peternolan5632]

And to top it off the churches were for constructing tall ships

[@deniseroe5891]

Horrible, and in the name of the Church. Those babies, such short lives, utterly wasted. Years of denial and out right lies. I am of Irish descent through both parents and a Christian, though not Catholic, and this breaks my heart. God bless all those little souls.

[@kgolem79]

Brave Of You All to begin to face history instead of denying it.

[@beejjas3321]

no amount of apology can fix the trauma damage these nuns a priests did devil in disguise not human

[@user-dh9bt9dk5u]

I wondered why Ireland has a relatively small population considering they're Catholic. Now I know it's because they're Catholic.

[@e.l.l.e.tierrablankaa]

Oh Catholics... The Mother Mary would be ashamed! But what’s new, right?

[@naturanihilfrustrafacit5619]

Catholics??? The Catholic Church of Ireland as institution and catholic people are two different things.

[@maxwellmorgan5535]

I hope I don't bother you. I was trying to find some old friends when I saw your beside my wall and I could not help but write you to know more about you and I am Scottish. Here is my email [e-mail]. I hope you don't mind if we can write to know each other at your leisure time

[@mariediphillipo3388]

Should the prosecuted these nuns in the World Court Ireland Catholic church was a cold element

[@pc2753]

Religions are back on the menu at the Beeb! Not all religions though I bet.

[@daddada2984]

Catholicism gives bad image to religion, Christianity, & God.

[@pc2753]

@@daddada2984 got an alternative in mind ?

[@daddada2984]

@@pc2753 Christianity. Jesus Christ, His pure words.

[@pc2753]

@@daddada2984 yeah I'd go with that. I'd be interested in finding an alternative to the king James Bible though

[@daddada2984]

@@pc2753 try new living translation Or any that can easy communicate your message. We are blessed today we have counter references for better translation.

[@K.N.H.]

No religion should force on people.

[@JapanZen]

What about an apology to all the children abused by catholic clergy?

[@agbekomla4067]

11 I have never seen a religious leader who is honest. They are not prophets but they have answers to all the questions. For example, if you ask a religious leader if it is normal for a woman to sell or give her uterus to a barren woman. Instead of telling you that only a prophet messenger can answer this question, he will say that he does not know. He can even try to answer if he is very wicked.

[@starskyarsky8374]

This is what happens if you give religious authorities power!!! How much damage has the Catholic church done in this country alone? Their leaders apologise again while they still harbour and protect child rapists! Imagine what their missionaries are doing in parts of poorer countries now?

[@ed7002]

Is the Church sorry or sorry they were found out

[@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626]

Protestants killed 6 million in ww2

[@skyebates246]

Religion has done so much damage.

[@kevint8448]

Your right but the 2 biggest mass murderers in WORLD HISTORY are both AETHEIST STALIN AND CHAIRMAN MAO

[@rutgersplague4595]

@@kevint8448 there's a difference between people not having a belief in religion, and communism suppressing religion

[@kevint8448]

@@rutgersplague4595 Nice spin (LIE)

[@rutgersplague4595]

@@kevint8448 so I'm a Communist then am i

[@kevint8448]

They were AETHEIST just sick to death of the lie that its always religion thats at fault for wars and mass murder dont hear many non believers COMMUNIST or NOT pointing this fact out in fact NEVER maybe MSM love to suppress the TRUTH about these people as they like far left causes like the MARXIST THUGS that rampaged in America in the summer

[@mikekean8344]

Where are the surviving perpetrators of these crimes? They all need to brought before a tribunal of some kind, and made to explain themselves in public!

[@CM-bh9lb]

But they are proudly #prolife, right? Would rather have kids suffer and die and perpetuate cycles of abuse and mysery, than allow consentual, informed and safe abortions

[@maxwellmorgan5535]

I hope I don't bother you. I was trying to find some old friends when I saw your beside my wall and I could not help but write you to know more about you and I am Scottish. Here is my email [e-mail]. I hope you don't mind if we can write to know each other at your leisure time

[@AlanWattResistance]

No such thing as a 'safe' abortion, a murder takes place every time.

[@faithlesshound5621]

For the nuns, the right to life ends after birth. They and their doctors accepted high rates of infant and child mortality in the "homes."

[@AlanWattResistance]

@@faithlesshound5621 And how did they die?

[@faithlesshound5621]

@@AlanWattResistance We don't really know. The babies all had local general practitioners supposedly caring for them before writing their death certificates, and the local registrar of births, deaths and marriages should have been able to spot morbidity and mortality hot spots. Local authority social services also had some responsibility. Perhaps all these outside professionals believed what they were told while kneeling outside the mother superior's grille. We know the nuns often falsified names, told families children sent abroad had died and concealed deaths to continue collecting money from the state. So any written records need to be scrutinised carefully. The orders claim to have destroyed their records: perhaps they have, but no-one has conducted a forensic search. The survivors report poor food, clothing, hygiene and heating as well as heavy "discipline." The children were regarded as tainted by sin and forced to work from an early age. All of these would increase mortality. Churchmen have suggested that the children died during measles outbreaks in the wider community: no-one has verified this. If their bodies or skeletons are ever exhumed, forensic analysis might throw some light on the extent of deprivation, disease and injuries.

[@karenharrington2628]

Many Blessings Appreciate Sharing ❤

[@ronsagolili3737]

How could this be a true religion?

[@Wish1954]

What was so wrong with kids born out of wed lock how about our ancestors was there a Catholic Church in the early years this makes me mad treating children like it was their fault coming into the world Jesus hated religion and the pharisees for they loved rules more than God's love this is what happens when rules are more important than the people so saddening 😢

[@piqueny8872]

God will ask on judgement day to all these innocent children who (are in heaven right now )who did this to them. And the evil devils priests and nun s will suffer even worse beyond the punishment they are receiving in the graves!! God is all ruler all fair in trail and judgement

[@piqueny8872]

@@jackiechan2558 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWPWeIWVmr54arM God would never say to hurt any innocent persons especially the children That’s the devil causing harm to people

[@piqueny8872]

@blob blob watch the link it helped me explain what ur saying. Keep believing in god regardless

[@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1]

Promiscuity, extramarital affairs and bad conduct by women (and some men) should certainly be punished and deterred. That's good. But it shouldn't affect innocent children.

[@mariamajor5417]

They can never apologize for what they did

[@LizRoe-ky4hr]

Collingdale 1 answer the question do you assert that any child or woman who has been raped should be further forced to undergo another extremely traumatic damaging crime forced to birth a child? A simple Yes or No?

[@emilieesso3517]

25 But because of the sin and because of the churches, know that the world will go from suffering to suffering. And it shall come to pass that a man will not be able to shake hands with his brother or his best friend for fear of being contaminated with the disease. People shall walk without touching one another. Schools will be closed and you will hear people say: "I'm afraid of taking the underground or the bus, I am afraid of being contaminated.” You see? The righteous one will say to the wicked one: "Go and show off your nudity on the beach!" and the wicked one will tell him: "I won’t!". You see? [Kc.141v49] 26 Well, what does the Bible say? What does Matthew 24:22 say? The Bible says that if time was not shortened, no flesh would be saved, but when we see the work and the multiplication of churches, it seems that if the Lord tarries, every flesh will be saved. Do not be seduced to that point! And don’t look at me as a threat to your churches because of your interests but rather like a grace. [Kc.21v13] #PKPCHANNELTV

[@ericliu3992]

MUST BE ASHAMED!!!!!!!

[@manithangavalu7885]

They've no empathy or remorse for commiting murder towards HUMANITY. Excess of Evil.

[@ericliu3992]

@@manithangavalu7885 yes

[@MarcusCato275]

The Catholic church - Hell's antechamber

[@naturanihilfrustrafacit5619]

Not all of them.

[@greenknitter]

@@naturanihilfrustrafacit5619 All the ones I had the misfortune to have as teachers- nuns. I'd home school rather than allow a child of mine anywhere near a priest, brother or nun.

[@saxglend9439]

@@naturanihilfrustrafacit5619 99% of them.

[@tonyjames5444]

This is terrible but not surprising, aside from this think of the woman who died in back street abortions or the new borne babies left to die in fields and alleyways by traumatised mothers with no one to turn to.

[@deborahgray2255]

I remember reading a book on this absolutely horrific the things that went on 😢

[@Immortal__]

Who and what were they doing??? Any why???? :(

[@angeaelibou6073]

10 For school competitions and studies, you are looking for annals, test booklets and documents outside of the teachings of your school. But for Heaven, you do not do that. And all the effort that you make day and night to have money and a better future on the earth, why don't you also do the same for the paradise after your death? #PKPCHANNELTV #ProphetKacouPhilippe

[@greentorm5467]

Youve got to remember that back then, a lot of priests and nuns were told by family to enter seminary or the convent; not always a calling....angry people.

[@algamaboba167]

What was the religious or general reasoning of separating the child from the mother? I think it's all horrid bit why did they think separating mother and child was necessary?

[@sofa-lofa4241]

Because it makes them much easier to sell off without the mothers knowledge... Sad but true

[@acs2735]

The reasoning is too horrible to write.

[@jessiwynn1563]

Religious reasoning is something along the lines of hoping that the children won't grow up to make the same mistakes the church thought their moms made. And to sell the kids off.

[@algamaboba167]

@@jessiwynn1563 oh I see, just so sad all around.

[@faithlesshound5621]

Removing the children was necessary then for most families to take the young mothers back. Of course some would have, but the priests would disapprove.

[@stevebobhorace]

Archbishop Eamon Martin allowed Fr Gary Donegan to hold a Mass explicitly dedicated to IRA men, an organisation the Church had always previously condemned.

[@Lucky7tattooNettahoe]

This is about 40 years late. Thank the Gods this can never happen again.

[@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626]

*thank god

[@John_Bradbury]

How does the Catholic church survive?

[@simonhumby323]

and I thought The Troubles killed a lot of people...

[@samlancaster1277]

Wouldn’t it have been the correct Christian path to plough in unreservedly apologising decades ago. Hundreds if not thousands of wicked people were complicit in perpetuating and covering up such brutality. However , Jesus Christ alone judges each and every one of us at the point of our own death. Perhaps this might give a jolt to those who live life only for self ?

[@captainharris8980]

That's just horrible. I'm glad Ireland is a more socially advanced society now.

[@vietashroffoliver2521]

So much abuse of the most horrific kind done by those who were supposed to be "better" than others! I don't believe in an invisible god. Those people that abused are employed by churches of all faiths, what is their actual value system. What you sew you reap. No ifs or buts and no one's blood will free you of your transgressions and slander. I've seen the movie Philomena which is exposes this heinous abuse.

[@dlogan3099]

It's so easy to blame the church. But everybody was to blame to varying degrees. I don't agree with a lot of the comments here not ascribing any blame to the families and the fathers.

[@eric_meira]

😢

[@GeneralArmorus]

Some people were saved a life in conservative Ireland. The horror! The horror!

[@taiterobinson793]

Unforgivable what the church done in those days. I can just imagine those old scraggy nuns just ruining their lives.

[@nacnahm73]

To know that so many PJ Harverty"s did not get a chance at life is heartbreaking... Shame

[@israeldiegoriveragenius2th164]

No to forced or coerced vaccines.

[@beejjas3321]

scandal is out way too late the justice for innocent victims is just too late

[@asoulalignedhowgodhealshis6682]

Hard to imagine that the Spirit of God actually exists in this church. I certainly don't think so. Absolutely disgusting and abominable.

[@jaelansibilly9942]

May the good lord bless all the 9000 kids and the families of them

[@callumosullivan7546]

Do u not see ur irony

[@naturanihilfrustrafacit5619]

@@callumosullivan7546 is free speech stiil allowed, sick fart???

[@danielmcguigan4930]

The dead have been raised. may they finally find restful peace alongside the souls of the faithful departed. I repent alongside those responsible. Thank you Heavenly father for this act of spiritual cleansing. Not noise of the 🎺

[@Lovelife-im7gx]

Wow ... Unbelievable . They point to other country and religions for women and kids right . But their color is not clean either

[@manithangavalu7885]

Religious HYPOCRITES.

[@aprildelacruz2910]

Its is very sad that thousand of innocent and angel babies sufferings in hands of human demons.as being catholic im so mad to the nun and priest who disguise as apostol of "God"but truly demons in heart,soul.they already listed in the book of hell.

[@jaelansibilly9942]

I hope the families have a good life and I'm sad and ashamed they woul bury them under their insted a proper death

[@jaelansibilly9942]

For the good children I mean btw

[@debbiemarquis3231]

Sorry..???

[@johnfromflorida9441]

So many here trying to change the subject...that is that the Catholic church and most of Mainstream Religion is deplorable....God's Kingdom will remove these false Religions and bring about a better world by means of God's Son!

[@mlynch1985]

People need to be jailed keep this going bbc rte wont cover it like yous they won't even leave there comments turned on

[@bradleylappin6107]

Exactly free speech my ass

[@MazPlayList]

Im suprised people still believe in religion in 2021

[@dodi1kanobe]

I don’t understand how the Catholic Church can survive this scandal ?

[@manithangavalu7885]

Ask the current pope, he has answers. He's a disgrace .

[@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626]

@@manithangavalu7885 fuck off

[@i-dont-understand-you-plea1626]

Because it wasn’t the modern Catholic Church that did this....

[@seandonaghy2473]

There are two statements spoken by Christ that, in this context, should worry certain individuals, living and dead: "Suffer little children . . . to let them come onto me." Matthew 19:14 'Better for him that a mill stone were hanged around his neck . . .' Luke 17:2 Knowing the Catholic Church, it is likely that few (if any) such millstones have been so tied, now or in the past.

[@wm2357]

Can't wait to see imams and rabbis apologising.