Seastream Angler 120 PD: On Water Review

[@georgey4755]

I purchased this kayak about 45 days ago as my first kayak, I’ve been out a dozen or so times. I’m 6’6, 250# and size 13 shoes. I wear Merrill hiking shoes when I’m out and no issues with pedaling and clearance. The prop comes with an extra shear pin should you hit something hard. Steering no issue and I’ve banged it around, just being new. It cuts through the water amazingly well and when you are fishing the pedal drive makes it easy to stay in position. The pedal drive on mine is quieter than this video makes it sound and it came with a simple b&w printed maintenance manual. The seat is extremely comfortable. Overall I think it is a great kayak, the price is just a bonus. Changes I would like to see: convert the front open bow to covered storage like the non pedal drive, incorporate a cup holder into sidewall, move the front seat clip closer to seat so you have more room to work with.

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Great review. Thanks for your feedback.

[@wesleybryant7334]

Wondering if you still own this kayak or how it held up over the years for you? Im about the same height 215#

[@georgey9444]

I do not own this anymore. Just too long for me to transport. I now own an old town mk106 that i keep on a 7x12 utility trailer. I guess I am older (66) and lazier and I like the motor.

[@wesleybryant7334]

@@georgey9444 nothing wrong with that, do you remember if the drive was any good or not, definitely looking for a solid kayak on a budget, a man with 6 kids that loves the outdoors has to spend/ invest wisely lol. Any pros and cons u can remember?

[@raywilliamson9396]

I am looking at everything on the market. Looking first for being stable then price. When I saw you do a head stand, I said that's it. I am 79 still in terrific shape, benching 200, use to bench 450. But anyway the Seastream is it. Terrific looking and really like how it preforms. You Sold me. I'll be doing mostly lake fishing as Arizona is not much for rivers. Anyway GREAT review. Wish you the Best in the future ventures. Merry Christmas!

[@itsmeddmorales]

I bought one probably about a month ago from ACK, took it out 4 times so far, I love it, I'm 5'11, 320 and its very stable for me, and very comfortable peddling AND paddling :)

[@philipmelo1786]

Thanks for the feedback, I am around 275 lbs and was wondering how it is for a heavier person. Great review of a solid pedal kayak at a budget friendly price.

[@marebearjoseph6794]

Can't wait to buy my first kayak! Still doing my research and I really enjoy the pros and cons you do. Thanks Dan for always doing the demos to show your viewers 🤙👍🙂🛶

[@77esto]

What's you best choice so far? From Sweden 😊

[@jimmyonguitar1]

I bought that very boat from your shop a couple days after you tested it. Very stable!

[@LakeVermilionDreams]

My boating season has ended :( so I'm glad to have your videos to remind me of how nice it is to be on the water. I'll be watching your videos of open water kayaking while I sit in an ice shelter this winter.

[@nikro2991]

My one didn't start yet ,i m not to sure what kayak or inflatable boat to buy ( i have a 3 years kid i want to take him out with me) 🎉🎉

[@travisf7849]

Yes, yes, yes! I love the sound of a budget friendly comparison for the pedal kayaks. As I was watching this was thinking you should do a budget pedal shoot out. I'm stuck between this and the hobie passport 12. As this would be my first kayak and I feel like I would use it more if it was a pedal drive. Any advice would be greatly appreciated or any other ones I should look at in the same price point. Thanks!

[@cappyjpadgett]

Go with a hobie,may as well buy the best if your going to spend $1500+

[@colobisman6132]

I’ve been doing a lot of research on budget kayaks the year or so and this review pretty much convinced me the Seastream is the way to go. I’ve seen them advertised for $1299 so that’s also a consideration. That price leaves you enough money for the add ons you’ll need.

[@TooBlastedd]

The head stand test seals the deal every time.

[@nautigirladventures3261]

I've never seen anyone attempt a headstand on a kayak...impressive lol. This boat looks alot like my Field and Stream Shadow Caster. I'd have to imagine it's the same manufacturer. Same deck and fittings right down to the graphics. Thank you for the review it was awesome as always. I only wish your shop was in my area 👍Your reviews are the best

[@dancingtrout6719]

what a test eh..!

[@BakaRed77]

Just ordered one. I have looked at a lot of sub $2k kayaks. Or rather as many they offered with a pedal drive. I will have to wait quite some time for delivery. But I am very excited and I appreciate your review helping me make an informed decision.

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Where did you order from? I’ve got some here in my warehouse that I may able to ship to a dealer near you if you’re on the West Coast

[@BakaRed77]

@@HeadwatersKayak I'm east coast. I got it from Sierra(TJ Maxx). They had like 3 come into stock for a great price.

[@mrblueskynm3968]

Great review as always! Yes, please do a shootout of the budget pedal drives!

[@pepepepert]

Pelican even has one now in the 1200-1500 Canadian range.

[@johnbaker4847]

Yep, old town, seastream, starting to get quality platforms (pedal) for under $2000. 👍😊😎🎣

[@nmolinaro62]

Not fair, Dan. Not fair at all. You know I'm a paddler, not a peddler. Got my last two Eddylilne Caribbeans from you, and now you make me start thinking about going to the dark side. Have you no shame, sir? At long last, have you no shame? This looks fantastic. Lot's to think about, now.

[@jerrytalley802]

Nice review, I was expecting a spectacular dismount from your headstand, lol

[@moronbrothersKY]

Thanks! Just bought 2! Will the Malone foldaway for a minivan haul one of these

[@michaelschaller7572]

Very nimble kayak i liked seeing how steerable it is around the lilly pads

[@p0wderhound03]

Just bought one from ACK. Can’t wait for the maiden voyage!!

[@p0wderhound03]

MAGIC CLAW! I paid $1349 and it was delivered to my door.

[@Yak-life]

Nice vid brother 👌. What pfd afe you sporting?

[@bionic_toothpick]

@@p0wderhound03 which store

[@p0wderhound03]

@@bionic_toothpick Austin Kayak

[@Internetpilot]

Clearly some shuffling around between brands by Joy Sports/Feelfree. The Field & Stream Shadow Caster went to the Seastream brand now that Dick's is no longer selling it, just like the Cabelas Advanced Angler went to the 3 Waters brand as the Big Fish. Really glad to see that it's not just plain gone, and now there's a pedal drive version. Having paddled and motorized my Shadow Caster, I'm not surprised at all that it's a pretty fast pedal kayak. Sweet! Thanks for the review!

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Yes Dicks decided to go with even cheaper brands like Pelican and Future Beach, however, Joy Sports owned the mold, so they were able to rebrand it and expand the line to more models. Then Cabelas got bought out by Bass Pro and they own Ascent Kayaks, so the AA got pushed out. Honestly its a huge win for small retailers, as now we have something to compete with at that price, and joy sports has the freedom to do boats like the Big Fish 103 Pedal and the Angler 120 PD, that the box stores would have never messed with. So in a way we owe them thanks for paving the way and helping pay for the mold!

[@Internetpilot]

I also noticed that Dick's now has the Vibe Yellowfin and even the Sea Ghost. I'm just surprised they let the Shadow Caster and Eagle Talon, etc. go when it was re-branded under their Field & Stream store brand. I can see why Cabelas ended that relationship (since they were bought out), but the Shadow Caster was pretty much Dick's flagship kayak. Oh, well. I don't care as long as it's still available somewhere! And it is a big win for dedicated outfitter type shops to be able to sell these boats now. I still can't believe they made a pedal version! That's so awesome! Now, when is Headwaters going to get into the kayak shipping business so we can buy all the stuff in these great reviews from you?

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Haha we got out of retail all together. We are just hear to support support our dealers and this wonderful community.

[@marcr4566]

I know this post is two years old, but wondering if you ever did that budget kayak head to head review. I'm torn between the Seastream 120PD, Big Fish 108, and the Hammerhead Bull Shark and the new Whale Shark. Cheers!

[@markday3986]

Hi Dan. Love the show and thank You to your comments to paddle sports. Please direct me to some one that has this kayak for sale. Any help is appreciated.

[@charlieboutin3341]

Great review! 👍👍 Would like a video of you pedaling with your hands while doing the headstand! (That’s really awesome, I couldn’t do one on dry land.)😂 Thanks for your honesty while testing these kayaks. Someday soon I’ll be upgrading and will be using your expertise to make my decision. Have a great weekend! 👌✌️🤙

[@stevesafety6743]

Love the review. Trying to decide between this and an Old Town Sportsman Salty 130PDL. What is the $500 difference. The Angler is $1399 and the Salty is $1899

[@christopherbouchard4121]

Budget pedal kayak comparison video??? I'm really leaning towards this one I just want to see if there is anything else I should consider

[@katebeckinsnail910]

Glad I went with hobie style pedal kayak. I wouldn't want to listen to that all day. My setup is really quite. I like the idea of instant reverse though.

[@katebeckinsnail910]

And it looks quick

[@williambrown4086]

Great Review ~ Couple of thing they could do better.....A cup holder molded in would have been nice ! .....Covered storage Somewhere ....And as you said the steering looks pretty weak . I would worry about it failing. If I end up with this kayak I would work out better steering set up but like you said at the price point you get what you pay for. If you not going heavy duty fishing all th time I think it is a good value.

[@ahhdat]

Shadow Caster with a pedal drive system. Awesomeness😎

[@jw-k5663]

I'm looking at this model as an upgrade to my paddle only sit on top. I'm wondering, does the kayak come with the pedal drive? Some models don't and that fact is often hidden away on the sales sites. I've seen this one a few places but can't find it said for sure included or not included. Great video, the head stand test definitely may have sealed it for me, since this one looked good already 😂

[@arturogonzalez2889]

How’s it going sir? Awesome videos!! In your opinion, which kayak is more stable? Big Fish 120 or Seastream Angler 120? Thank you!

[@phukettravelguide9916]

Big fish 120 is more stable.

[@drumrboy80]

One thing I’ve noticed with pedal drive kayak reviews, nobody is really covering the seat adjustability. Will someone as short as 5’5 be able to adjust the seat and still have comfortable distance from the pedals.

[@a.cioffi4256]

Hi Dan Have you ever reviewed an inflatable kayak like the Bote brand? I like the videos....very informative

[@abaldwin6059]

Good review. One thing I noticed, you referenced your past review of the Mako 10. I think a better comparison would be the Seastream12 vs Mako 12 for a more fair reference.

[@johnnycash8881]

I just bought one but it doesn't come with instructions or maintenance guide. Even on website it's non-existent. I have a lot of play on the steering and was wondering how to tighten. And like you said it would be nice to get the steering handle made in aluminum. I don't want to take it out and have it break on me.

[@rrporter9198]

I have had mine for over 3months now, And yes its VERY stable. My only wish is the it was deeper like the Big Fish. I have no issues with the steering, but I have had issues with noise from the drive. I had noticed that the bolts get loosen after I'm out on the water. But other then that Its a Great boat. Thanks for the review.

[@t.g.6658]

Is the seat height adj keep seeing that listed but never shown?

[@rrporter9198]

@@t.g.6658, No. It just moves forward or backwards to get the pedal positions.

[@pastofino6375]

Nice boat, but I'll stick with my Big Fish. The lakes I fish have too much vegetation for a pedal drive. Great review.

[@davidball8]

Great video. What happens when you hit something with the drive? Does it pop up?

[@andrewsmith941]

I have the Jackson Coosa and it will pop up if you hit something. I think it might be the only pedal drive that does

[@cgellatly]

What would be better for a big guy 6' 3 300lbs the big fish 108 or this Seastream Angler 120?

[@seanhoward8276]

I'm pretty sure I'm going to pull the trigger on two of these bad boys after watching this video. Thanks for the good review.

[@RedfishInc]

I'd be interested to know how the reach is for a 5 foot 6 chunky old dude.

[@Tinker46]

Your video doesn't seem to show an access point to the interior hull. I like lights and power accessibility for GoPro power and, night fishing, for crappie. I didn't see any open hatch access to the hull for battery and wiring.

[@seanbrown9313]

How would this handle in saltwater marsh or offshore? There are some bouys offshore that have tons of Cobia on them and when the redfish are running I would be able to get out there to catch em too. There are also some oil rigs 700-800 yards out so I’d go out there and maybe catch some jacks or something. I’m super curious though so any info about it or how it’s held up for you please tell me anything. It’s a super budget kayak and I’m really wanting one. I’m 5 foot 9 150 pounds so this kayak would be amazing for me so I feel like I’d be able to ha die it well offshore or even at the end of the jetties. I’ll be tearing up some fish. My main concern is the pedal drive. It sounds like a chain and if it’s not waterproof I don’t want to spend money to replace every year. Have a great day!

[@ciaraclements221]

Could you review the Hoodoo kayaks and give viewers a good look at a great product.

[@teslarocks7345]

Well they are made in CHINA.

[@Ozzypup1]

Looks nice. May have to consider one next spring.

[@joemartin6439]

Have a big fish 120 can a peddle drive fit my boat easily

[@casTingcall07]

Nice review, what accessories come with the kayak?

[@PanfishingJournal]

Having a reverse and being able to keep your position is critical to bass fishing. Pelican should have made a pedal drive with reverse. This one looks like a winner. The space up front is pretty useless for fishing. Not sure how you would access it out on the water.

[@timdavis3532]

Hey love the videos. I got a question. If you don't mind. I never had a kayak but been in everything else. What kayak would perfer. 1)Old Town 106 minn Kota or the Old Town paddle drive

[@HeadwatersKayak]

I always lean towards human power. Motor are good for tourneys, but to me takes something away from our sport.

[@BBeau]

If you had a 90 lb dog to bring with, would y0ou pick this one or big fish 103?

[@GreenManalichi]

So....why would I buy this one when it's made in Thailand as is the Moken 12.5 PDL. IMO, the Moken has a few more features at a cheaper price

[@jasonsuggs111]

That's a good looking boat, have you guys started shipping boats by chance? Also, where is this model made? I think I remember the Hobie being made in France.

[@LilyWasHereMB]

I wonder how it would perform with a toroidal propeller

[@alphasxsignal]

So you can get replacement parts for this boat too????

[@analogpro7]

I didn’t know they were available. Having a terrible time finding something like this for sale. Even the feelfree is out of stock. Headwaters in Lodi said to call local places since they are only a distributor but seems like the virus made getting a kayak next to impossible.

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Kayak City in Sac has a bunch of these on order. Should be here end of the month or early October.

[@MrMugg1n]

i know the video is kind of old so you may not respond, but hopefully you do! I just bought this kayak and so far loving it! My only complaint, the seat tends to not hold its position in its little grooves when I start putting some pressure on the pedals. Its possible im not tying down the seat correctly though. Anyone have tips for this issue? I heard you could adjust the pedal drive to be tighter or looser or something to that affect, maybe then i wont need to put as much pressure on the pedals and wont push my seat back?

[@dr.froghopper6711]

Question here: I have partial paralysis in my right leg and I can’t lift it. My left leg works pretty well. If I strap my right foot to the pedal, I can push down a little bit. Think this kayak drive would work for me? Also, how easy would it be to mount a trolling motor? Partial paralysis shouldn’t keep me off the water.

[@cappyjpadgett]

Think you would be better off with a kayak with a fin drive system so you can strap your foot into the peddle

[@bobbyhogan9207]

Thanks Dan, has not seen one of these 😳

[@brownwater2488]

I'm 5 6 and I read that once you push the chair forward is does not make full right turn

[@alphasxsignal]

Wonder if there is a way to install a sail on this model???????

[@BravoBassin]

great review as always Dan that kayak looks like a field and stream shadow caster kayak that they finally decided to ad a pedal drive too. when are you going to do a review of the new vibe shearwater 125?

[@JESSEPAVON]

Hello, can you Recomendo me a 1.5-11’ in the same price range please, my trucks beed is 5 foot and i also wand it to be light. Same brand would be perfect, I’m glad you say this drive feel good. Thanks in advance

[@kimroberson8376]

Does this peddle drive fit the 3 waters 108 kayak. The 108 has a very noisy peddle drive...

[@Jmarshallw56]

Great review I plan to get two of these.

[@TracksideRacingNetwork]

question i have a bonafide ss127 and like how high the seat is. how high is the seat compared to that?

[@adamh3102]

Any video reviews for us big boys?

[@ryanhemming9546]

How do you recommend buying a kayak? Go through ACK or order through a dealer?

[@mackjenkins7721]

Hello Dan this was a great review you did. I am looking into get me a pedal drive kayak. Question? You said you are a size 12 and your heels with carrying the floor. Am a size 15 6 EEEEEE with very fat wide toe. Do you think this would work with my foot. I usually have to kayak barefooted 👣 because there's no Footwear that's wide enough for my foot and do you think those pedals would be wide enough for my foot and was it comfortable to Pedal it barefooted👣 thank you Dan for the video.

[@HeadwatersKayak]

You may have to pedal with the center of your feet instead of the balls of your feet

[@mackjenkins7721]

@@HeadwatersKayak Ok but do you think my foot would clear being as wide as it is.

[@HeadwatersKayak]

🤷🏻‍♂️ I wouldn’t but it without sitting in it.

[@mackjenkins7721]

@@HeadwatersKayak thank you for the information I really appreciate that.

[@goonch7956]

Could you do a review like this firvthe moken 10v2?

[@austinhering1270]

You should look at the vibe shearwater 125

[@lexwaldez]

awesome review - thanks as always!

[@gordongordonplex9455]

I want to buy one, but I'm afraid to stand on my head. What should I do?

[@TracksideRacingNetwork]

well you gotta stand on your feet :)

[@VolsBandGeek]

How does the polyethylene of this kayak compared to the Mako and Lure 11.5? I know the Mako is real thin.

[@jackritter4805]

How with kayak be on a river that you have to paddle and turn fast. Also is there a cover you can put on for when the drives not in

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Not great. When the drivers down it’s a lot to manage in the river

[@brianb.3670]

Dan I fish the ocean in Oregon, do you feel the Seastream 120 PD would be fine on the ocean?

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Yes I’ve had it out there. Rinse in fresh water so nothing rust.

[@joemartin6439]

What a great review for you first kayak I will buy

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@rotinclyde7796]

Do you think that it is better than the riot mako 12 please?

[@timharris7425]

I have a big fish 120 and love it but I want something along the lines like the big fish 120 with a pdl, is the sea stream as stable as the big fish 120, and is the big fish 108 as stable as the bf 120, I'm 6 foot and 230lbs I'm just trying to choose what would be better, the bf 108 or seastream 120 or stick with my bf 120 and put a bixpy on it, I would just like some opinions and thoughts to help me make my next purchase of kayaks

[@HeadwatersKayak]

The Seastream is almost as stable as a big fish 120. The 108 is crazy, I honestly would recommend the 103 for your size.

[@kennethdavis9392]

I have been looking for a new and more versatile water trapping platform, I think I just found it.

[@stevestory8483]

What knife is that you have on your pfd? Thanks for the great review

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Nrs copilot.

[@timdavis3532]

Who do i have to get ahold of to try it out and maybe purchase. Thanks

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Hit up kayak city in Sacramento. I know they have at least a dozen in stock.

[@jairusaudwin2605]

i think it lacks a hatch, you will not have any access to drain the water out in case of leak in the middle of the sea or lake.

[@angelrn4l191]

What do you think of the hoodoo tempest 120p? Deciding between these two.

[@BassManStrikes]

Isn't the hoodo a native slayer clone?

[@ProjectReel]

RAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIDERSSSSS!!!

[@daltonbreaux]

I was wondering the same thing because for the money those are my two options.

[@teslarocks7345]

Well the Hoodoo is made in China, and this one is made in Thailand, take your pick.

[@caneanguidry3581]

What oakleys are those what style?

[@pescadelobinaytallermecani1368]

Donde lo puedo conseguir amigo ??? Y precio ??

[@joemartin6439]

I am 6’ 1” 190 lbs never had a kayak . It looks like the big fish 120

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Similar, same designer.

[@ritchiekasuya2221]

Does the sea stream come in 10 ft ?

[@ashleem1387]

Does the seat have a high low adjustment

[@vitvarg90]

NO it does not

[@truthof7382]

Most pedal drives do not have a height adjustment on the seat.

[@jeffohmart7053]

Does the drive pop up or break when it hits an obstruction and does it have a built-in place for a transducer?

[@davidsetzer1469]

No spot for a transducer. But the drive is pretty stout. It took a fall from my truck bed to break the prop blade but the drive is still butter.

[@xmtowntyx]

I think I'm buying this yak

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Nice!

[@bernieburch226]

Do you ever do a giveaway for a kayak

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Maybe someday if a manufacturer gives us one to give away!

[@donnaanderson1096]

Does this come in a smaller size like 10' 5

[@markkraus7301]

Does anyone make a more than one speed pedal unit for kayaks?Why not?

[@pixieclixie3565]

where can you buy this for 1300?

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Those days are long gone. Inflation and shipping have driven cost up world wide.

[@gerardhebert9207]

what life vest is that???

[@dancingtrout6719]

Are parts available

[@jamesrobertsonfishing]

Are we able to demo this boat at the boat house? Do you have any in-stock.? Thanks

[@HeadwatersKayak]

No we are no longer going to be selling boats as a retailer. We are moving into a distribution business model. Kayak City in Sac will be our local dealer.

[@jamesrobertsonfishing]

@@HeadwatersKayak well that's a bummer. Are you still going to be doing upgrades to personal kayaks? If not can you recommend someone.

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Matt will still be doing repairs. He will be based out of Headwaters Adventure in Redding but will be doing work for folks down here as well. His contact on IG is @yak_mandu

[@ThisLaoGuy]

is this better than the hoodoo tempest 120p? its a little cheaper $1199

[@HeadwatersKayak]

I have nothing positive to say about Hoodoo so I’ll say nothing at all. 😉

[@andymercado6192]

With it being a chain drive do you think this could go in bay water or brackish?

[@HeadwatersKayak]

I believe so, but I’m can’t say 100% without checking into that.

[@andymercado6192]

@@HeadwatersKayak Let us know when you get the info.

[@louieperez3390]

Is the chain on the pedal drive ok for salt water

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Yes it’s a fully sealed system

[@fishingismydrug1]

To retract the rudder, do you pull up on the rope?

[@tobyt7163]

no, its spring loaded, when you release the rudder control line, the spring lifts it up.

[@fishingismydrug1]

@@tobyt7163 thank you!

[@paytonmartin6279]

Is there a place to mount a transducer?

[@HeadwatersKayak]

Not a set transducer spot like on the big fish series.