I'm surprised there were no predatory fish in that segment
@ScientistCat2 жыл бұрын
I was like, "lol it's just some kid falling cartoonishly or getting vored by shadows." And then the spine-breaking and gut-tearing began...
@Anttown123 Жыл бұрын
Weak
@Irish_Ian178 ай бұрын
Yeah And in the late 90's Early 00s? We Ate that shit up more than the monsters Ate Andy.
@KoruKinshi8 ай бұрын
Gut tearing?
@ZipZapTesla8 ай бұрын
@@KoruKinshi2:37 i think?
@kendukin97256 ай бұрын
Look up waxworks deaths!
@generalbanana18854 жыл бұрын
I always liked this game just because the deaths in this were just....downright disturbing. Obviously because it's a bunch of crazy shit happening to a child, but like that's all you need. You can have the most bloody and gory deaths being shown in video games today but it'll never be as messed up as watching a flying monster come down and bending a kid backwards to snap his spine and carry him off to feast on him.
@lordgargamel41242 жыл бұрын
“But like” like, like… oh i dont know. Like…
@Renegaiden_2 жыл бұрын
The moment I started reading your description, I saw that animation play out and it was even more disturbing
@AfroGl02 жыл бұрын
You can hear the friggin crunch of the bone too. Sheesh.
@SeriousDragonify2 жыл бұрын
What about The Last of Us? You obviously didnt played it.
@GCS882 жыл бұрын
@@SeriousDragonify I for one love TLOU but the deaths scenes in that arent as disturbing, being bitten and shot is pretty much basic in video games.
@madlarkin82 жыл бұрын
I was convinced I had hallucinated this entire game from my childhood.
@frijolitoazul43432 жыл бұрын
That was probably your brain trying to protect you from trauma after witnessing these scenes your child brain couldn't comprehend. Same thing has happened to me with other games, which i swear i thought i made up from my memory
@2URLex2 жыл бұрын
Surprise! It was all real! :D
@AnarchyMagic2 жыл бұрын
Well ain't that something
@reagindoerindo43112 жыл бұрын
Me too, but my 4yr older brother used to play too, so he's with me in our madness. Mostly because of what Frijolito said, but also NO DAMN BODY knows about this game. Once (before google and everything), i could swear he ad a unique copy of something because no one we use to talk had heart about this game before.
@cristobal.angel. Жыл бұрын
Wow me 2
@tannermaple6 жыл бұрын
This game is rated e.
@betzabenaranja51652 жыл бұрын
Nope, Rated E is for everyone in esrb games
@dearquite10862 жыл бұрын
@@betzabenaranja5165 that was a joke.
@betzabenaranja51652 жыл бұрын
@@dearquite1086 I like jokes 👍🏼🤣😂
@Soul93Taker2 жыл бұрын
E for Early Trauma
@SparkzEnt2 жыл бұрын
this ain't the first kids game to have dark, disturbing deaths
@llartci23 жыл бұрын
1:09 so brutal,his spine got snapped holy sh*t
@Wolfbane82 жыл бұрын
Worst part is that it probably didn't kill him
@no-bodymr64192 жыл бұрын
@@Wolfbane8 he just got paralyzed
@mikarimex10552 жыл бұрын
he died later. trust me
@SeriousDragonify2 жыл бұрын
He got Bane'd.
@PhineasKSliderVT4 жыл бұрын
No blood, but TONS of violence! When games are able to do that EFFECTIVELY, that's true art.
@mrfahrenheit37733 жыл бұрын
It was probably bloodier when they first made it then changed some colors to blue so it wouldn't be such a mature game
@z0ttel892 жыл бұрын
definitely some blood between 0:19 and 0:27
@DecoytheSkeletalBoy2 жыл бұрын
I like how some scenes you can tell it's supposed to be gore, like when he gets pinned by the shadow monsters and they start ripping chunks out of his "shirt" but because they colored it that way, they got away with an E rating
@lazyer05112 жыл бұрын
@@DecoytheSkeletalBoy funny thing about that death, you can see skin and flesh just before it rips and looks like just his shirt. They tried to hide it but they didn't do too good of a job
@lukelmaooooo2 жыл бұрын
there's definitely mild blood lol
@N0sh4dows3 жыл бұрын
4:51 you can see him struggling, until a snap is heard and he goes still.. the worst death in my opinion, how brutal
@velocilevon3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's one of those on par with 0:42 and 1:09. It's like child friendly Dead Space, lmao.
@3dburger2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@AREA12security2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the coral death underwater were gruesome
@Renegaiden_2 жыл бұрын
@@AREA12security I was thinking that too. Underwater claustrophobia mixed with ugly squishy marine monsters and being vored while alive? Now that's terrifying!
@acrj-alfasaus48252 жыл бұрын
@@Renegaiden_ idk, some people get off on that
@sacha99572 жыл бұрын
The spine crunching noise, the struggle in the animation, or the kid's shoe being left on the rope... Those makes it scarier than just a gorefest tbh
@beardrag77296 жыл бұрын
Still loving the fact that this is still being watched in 2018, some fantastic animated sequences!! Such a great game, the death scenes were disturbing and so well done!!
@betzabenaranja51652 жыл бұрын
Stop suffering the kid of heart of darkness 😢😿😭
@24framedavinci392 жыл бұрын
2022 now.
@TheALPHA1550 Жыл бұрын
2023 now.
@TheALPHA1550 Жыл бұрын
@@24framedavinci39 2023 now.
@iljad.7979 Жыл бұрын
End of 2023
@Gojiro76 ай бұрын
If there is one take away from this, it's that nothing can harm a good pair of kicks
@NintendoComplete7 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how completely not child friendly this game is for something that *ahem* was rated "E for Everybody" by the ESRB back in 1998. For "animated violence" and "use of alcohol and tobacco." What do you all think after seeing these?
@NintendoComplete7 жыл бұрын
+Adam Demeter It's insane! I mean, five minutes into the game the kid is locked in a closet! Hahaha did they even put the disc in?
@chaosgreyblood7 жыл бұрын
I have a good title for this game... Harmful to Minors: The Game.
@SwordfighterRed7 жыл бұрын
That's not even counting the brief shot of animated nudity. Of one of the Amigo creatures, sure, but it's there.
@WonkyTonkBotty7 жыл бұрын
Plus IIRC, one of the characters Andy meets is drugged up/smooking a hookah, or something.
@toongrowner16 жыл бұрын
Well it's not liek Parents are even aware of the age-rating anyway. XD
@redtexan70532 жыл бұрын
“Little Boy gets eaten alive for six minutes straight and occasionally falls off a cliff”
@MrTipo_867 ай бұрын
And don't forget of being shooted by a fireball
@CdrChaos2 жыл бұрын
At first it’s a small comfort that most of these deaths are instant. Until you realize how many of them are the kid being swallowed whole, being *eaten alive* by some monster. Or the ones where the worms pull him into the hole, he’s overcome with terror then the *snap* happens and he dies instantly. This entire game is a nightmare.
@z0ttel892 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was like 9 years old or something we would play this over at a friend's house and I was scared of this game because of these death animations, they were really upsetting to poor young me, but I never said anything to my friend back then because I didn't want to seem like a whimp :D Childhood's a funny time, you know... looking at it from a much later time. I'm almost 33 now.
@redknight3442 жыл бұрын
Same, i was scared of this game
@mrfahrenheit37733 жыл бұрын
0:43 I think this is the most brutal one, getting chewed on then stretched and eaten alive..eeesh
@velocilevon3 жыл бұрын
Shadow Captain is relentless and unforgiving. Just played with the kid like he's a gummy bear, damn.
@Ami-ut2us2 жыл бұрын
Bro everyone is calling these bloodless but you definitely see a quick flash of innards in that death 🤢
@sweetpepino19075 ай бұрын
@@Ami-ut2us I think those are just smear frames of his red shoes but it could also be interpreted that way 1000%
@juli8563 ай бұрын
This one animation that confused and scared the shit out of me when I was a kid. This was back in 2002/2003 😂
@DecoytheSkeletalBoy2 жыл бұрын
This game did not have to go as hard as it did on it's death animations. They convey a very real sense of death; the way the character's body struggles and then just gives up in the end. It's legitimately disturbing and left a huge impact on me when I played this as a kid because of how unexpected it is. Though sadly, that's really the only reason this game is remembered
@imfsresidentotaku9699 Жыл бұрын
It's far from "the only reason this game is remembered." I'm pretty sure that it's also remembered as an ambitious, decently challenging, well-animated cinematic platformer with a fully orchestrated score (the first game to have one) six years in the making, by the creator of Out Of This World, no less. It also shares its title with a famous unrelated novel by Joseph Conrad.
@Anttown123 Жыл бұрын
I also played this as a child just thought the deaths where cool and interesting. But if you have a weak mind i can see it get to you.
@Dynamodog7 Жыл бұрын
@@Anttown123Are you seriously trying to make fun of people for thinking the deaths in this game are disturbing?
@Anttown123 Жыл бұрын
@@Dynamodog7 stating facts
@Dynamodog7 Жыл бұрын
@Anttown123 It's not even them being weak minded though. It is true that these deaths are disturbing for a game rated E. And before you say I'm weak minded, i grew up with live leak.
@silverakantor2 жыл бұрын
The sound of a sharp crack when pulled into a dark hole by a worm is the most unnerving death here...
@Memnto_Morii Жыл бұрын
Dude I was just thinking the same thing
@KoruKinshi11 ай бұрын
Worm either had teeth to chomp into him or snapped his neck.
@CicoinTokyo7779 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s disgusting 🤢 😂
@jonah91502 жыл бұрын
Vore was the core inspiration to this game.
@panosrevelator49462 жыл бұрын
Masterfully done fluid animations,you gotta appreciate the amount of love being put by the developers.
@HandheldGamer19912 жыл бұрын
And then you have idiot youtubers that give this game a 2 out of 10 or worse because they dont like the jump or just suck at games so they dont like it when the game kicks their ass XD
@michaelmccarty13272 жыл бұрын
Whoever made this game seems like the spiritual successor to the author who wrote the original Pinocchio. "Make a video game for kids!" "But I hate kids." "Do it, or you're fired!" "...Fine, but you must prepare to accept the consequences."
@radioactiverat87518 ай бұрын
Some halflife shit right there. “Prepare… for unseen… CONsequences…”
@tommasoemanueli17852 жыл бұрын
The animations are flawless
@Garrett9382 жыл бұрын
1:09 holy s*** that was brutal..
@ion43934 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's a cinematic platformer where you'll die a lot. It makes sense they wanted to give you something to look at. The animations are great to be honest, much better than throwing on a ragdoll like all the games nowdays.
@SegaMario Жыл бұрын
I like the little detail when you get incinerated while climbing or in midair, the shoe falls down or get melted when it does lava. These animators knew their attention to detail well.
@SegaMario Жыл бұрын
This is just horrific. Not a drop of blood, but still utterly gruesome ways to die. And all on a *KID,* no less. It's like something out of a Creepypasta... only if it were, there would most likely be blood involved. I'm surprised that even though things were a lot less restrictive back then, they were able to get away with this. That would *NEVER* fly today, unless the creators want Twitter to send them death threats that the people that send them would never get punished for.
@angelvaldez353611 ай бұрын
Honestly I’m willing to debate cause I’m positive there’s some red sprites that look like blood.
@MajinZarak2 жыл бұрын
The animations are damn beautiful.
@noneshallknowmyname2 жыл бұрын
i remember playing this when i was younger. Death scenes have always fascinated me, since it’s shows so rarely. games like resident evil also interested me. i never finished this one though. Young me could never figure out how to not get spine-snapped in the swamp, so i never made it past that bit
@crimsonshinobi52812 жыл бұрын
You probably know now, but you had to duck in the water, later on you have a section with underwater hills and valleys and you had to duck in the valley otherwise you would be too exposed. If you're not opposed you can play this game again with an emulator and rom file.
@HandheldGamer19912 жыл бұрын
I also never got to the end because disc 2 was damaged :( and it was brand new so idk what to do especially since the game was a gift from germany.
@raxes11442 жыл бұрын
@@HandheldGamer1991 Yep, our disks 2 were also damaged
@BlackMegas2 жыл бұрын
No memory card for me
@lowhp_comic Жыл бұрын
And the remake chickened out and just had Sherry as "You are trapped"
@SwordfighterRed7 жыл бұрын
It kinda looks like maybe they had to hastily tone back some of the spritework to be somewhat less violent. Like at 1:32, where there's something blue attached to Andy's shoe, or the various deaths around ~4:00. Oh yeah, and 4:58. MMM, MMM, THAT'S SOME GOOD T-SHIRT. But we'll keep the giant worms that drag a boy in and violently pacify him with the pleasant sounds of neck-crunching murder. That's completely okay. (It's not okay.)
@Jorge_super4 жыл бұрын
@Kev Walthall How was it possible? Who are the ones who decides the rating?
@Silver_Swan_MK22 жыл бұрын
at 4:58 i dont think that beast trying to make th-- (FBI appeared at the ceiling)
@liamhollands3442 жыл бұрын
Honestly a horror movie of this would be sick
@lowhp_comic Жыл бұрын
It'd only work if he had other companions with him so they all suffer these horrific deaths instead of hin
@kenobigaming5755 Жыл бұрын
So….. King Kong?
@Alterego9122 жыл бұрын
Something tells me that if this game were to get the remaster treatment, that it would either need a rating change, or these death animations would be toned all the way down (or replaced with a fade to black).
@josvel23442 жыл бұрын
That's for sure with this soft broken society we have now.
@basketbomberslackingson44172 жыл бұрын
Why does watching a kid die with toon physics (can be pulled around like taffy) feel more horrific than a bunch of other gruesome deaths in games teens can’t even play?
@WingedCrusade Жыл бұрын
Because you go in knowingly playing (usually) a brutal game as a fully grown adult who is more often than not armed and capable of self defense. Isaac Clarke gets grabbed by a necromorph and you just tap a little button until you snap back and beat the everliving crap out of your aggressor. That one's a relatively equal/even ground struggle of one against the other from a fully capable adult and other entity/party. This is just a kid who, regardless of his dinky little self fashioned laser is absolutely screwed when he's caught. Flailing helplessly until *crunch!*, or not even that sometimes. The only struggle is the useless spaghetti limbs that don't phase the attacker in the slightest and mean nothing. No hope of escape, no means of surviving or self defense. Just game over in what was seemingly a fun little E rated adventure game where, oops! Some shadow creature snapped your spine and whisked you away for its food for later. Be it paternal/maternal instincts on a primitive level to defend the young, or even the deeper idea of a child representing innocence, well, it's a whole heaping wealth of reasons. It's just more gruesome because they're young. Like punting a baby. Could also be the contrast of the cartoony style to how dark and grim the gruesome deaths are too, tbh
@stephenpaget15175 жыл бұрын
So many violent deaths, yet no blood.
@santasangre9962 жыл бұрын
A little bit like when the big rock lizard bisects him
@aletanook Жыл бұрын
Yeah cuz it's for kids.
@kel518613 күн бұрын
It would have been perfect if they put blood
@Meganolord2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I've played this game as a child on PC and always tried to remember the name of it. Loved the death animations. Good times, man.
@Proletarius872 жыл бұрын
"Reputed to have been ripped from the chest of the greatest vampire to have ever existed, Janos Audron, the Heart of Darkness restores vampiric unlife. Life is precious, Janos discovered - as it was torn throbbing and bleeding from his own body."
@mohannadmalik53732 жыл бұрын
I was obsessed with this game and I finish it the pixel art and challenges and the ways of dying is what make heart of darkness a one unique experience
@Mr_Red.253 жыл бұрын
The animation is beautiful for an old PS1 game
@Cobenop2 жыл бұрын
The original dark souls, i remember playing this when I was super young, and being destroyed. After completing like one area entirely i thought i was a god.
@BeyondDaX2 жыл бұрын
Ghosts n' Goblins and Battletoads were the original dark souls, this is just dark souls for the snes era
@JeremyBX Жыл бұрын
I love how it's always his bright red shoes that get left behind.
@K-o-R Жыл бұрын
Just the one though.
@CyberPixlMusic6 жыл бұрын
*_What a cute game for children hahah_*
@evantrowig8152 жыл бұрын
1:08 la muerte más brutal de todas en mi opinión
@LilReikoGold7 жыл бұрын
That poor child
@phillipsmith44732 жыл бұрын
I used to play this game when i was a kid, glad i found it again.
@theratman64682 жыл бұрын
This game needs to be re-released on the newer consoles.
@DarkSnake789906 жыл бұрын
it's been a long day without you my friend... *WOOOAAAHHHHHHHH*
@opo36282 жыл бұрын
I remember this game straight-up advertised its death sequences. XD
@DUSKvsDAWN4 жыл бұрын
The one at 3:06 .... DUDE I'VE NEVER NOTICED THAT SHOE DROPPING INTO ANOTHER SCENE XD Also, what ever are his shoes made of? We need to build houses out of that. And bulletproof vests. And tanks.
@JJDSCHANNELN58712 жыл бұрын
MAKE IT HAPPEN GOVERNMENT! 😂
@timvandeneng472410 ай бұрын
This game was so cool as a kid! It was a bit scary for young me and i never got to finish it because i found it super hard but the games universe is so cool and diverse! You rarely see this anymore
@devinsparks152310 ай бұрын
The year was 1998, I was 6 years old living in Korea where my dad was stationed in the Army. My dad and his Army buddies wanted to keep me and my sister entertained, so they decided to play this game that one of his friends just bought with us, not realizing how dark it was. My mom was not happy about it when she saw all the deaths, but my dad and I loved it. This was such a great nostalgia trip.
@lingivey365 жыл бұрын
I died a few times in this game when I was young and just couldn't handle it lol never played it again
@funasylumstudio2 жыл бұрын
The animations on these are spectacular
@Renegaiden_2 жыл бұрын
Being a single digit year old kid, I saw commercials of this game and it seemed so extraordinarily. Adventerous with an element of treachery andplaying on child fantasies, I always hoped to play this game. Now I'm glad I'm older and have a chance to play it now. If I played it as a kid, I'd be scared into a shock. Having me sleep during the day, and be awake all friken night.
@penguin7682 Жыл бұрын
Single digit year old kid… Fabulous. Have a good day, sir
@Matias_x22x3 жыл бұрын
I remember having this game on the PS1, I never touched it because I was scared of the name, LoL. Some time later the Disco disappeared and I never saw it again, thank God I never played it, those deaths are brutal ... and as a child I had many nightmares and it scared me with anything, so imagine.
@aliciasmo2 жыл бұрын
The deaths are so disturbing!. I will play this game.
@NintendoComplete2 жыл бұрын
A perfect response if I've ever heard one.
@1998topornik2 жыл бұрын
2:44 that reminds me of certain moment from peter jackson's king kong.
@DarkBluefire915 жыл бұрын
You know for kids. And still the skull crushing one always get me and still does.
@Cybershroom Жыл бұрын
Those wall worms traumatized me as a kid, just the way they look, the sound they make, it's like an uncanny blend of spider and a snake with a giant starring eye, and how they just snatch you inside of a hole where I pressume they crack your goddamn spine, the implication is so much worse. Goddamn.
@CPT856 жыл бұрын
For the morbidly macabre longing for the sight of children getting killed in video games...
@verysleepywolf2 жыл бұрын
Weird seeing this game get noticed, I always thought of it as a diamond in the deep DEEP rough that would just be forgotten
@donbasuradenuevo7 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAH!!! NO NO NO NO AAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
@grimmthekitsune26205 жыл бұрын
WHAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-
@JV-md8gy2 жыл бұрын
This game was difficult and awesome at the same time. I remember playing this on PS1
@klonoa4502 жыл бұрын
All the underwater ones are the worse. You see him struggle in vain just to get pulled in.
@eyevenear Жыл бұрын
Playdead's Inside clearly took inspiration from this game. I can't be the only one who noticed that.
@ledzeppelinfan1001 Жыл бұрын
It didn't
@ceooforcasupremacy80123 жыл бұрын
0:05 this is hilarious XD
@vytgameplays Жыл бұрын
0:41 the bite of 87
@1976P Жыл бұрын
Stretched that kid like stringed mozzarella cheese.
@DanielOliveiraDiaz11 ай бұрын
It's impressive that a 1998 game has better animation quality than many current games.
@pzza10972 жыл бұрын
No children were harmed in the making of this video.
@konami19792 жыл бұрын
Best video game based on a Joseph Conrad novel ever.
@qwertz862 Жыл бұрын
In which way?
@kimbob59 ай бұрын
This game has genuinely some of the most brutal deaths you’ll see in any game.
@slimmike565 жыл бұрын
“Pegi 18”
@Arashi2572 жыл бұрын
Man, I remember playing this as a kid and having 0 clue how to progress and just kept dying.
@josvel23442 жыл бұрын
Love this game but was hard as hell for me back then. Still have it so maybe one day I will give it a whirl.
@Deibodese2 жыл бұрын
I never played this game, but I had the chance to see the opening cinematic for it. I remember being blown away that such a simple storyline was told so well. It was way more entertaining than even a lot of major Hollywood films, and it was just a generic sci-fi adventure story!
@imfsresidentotaku9699 Жыл бұрын
A boy on a quest to save his dog from shadow monsters doesn't exactly sound like "a generic sci-fi adventure."
@davidhill14082 жыл бұрын
Thinking, falling to one's death would be the best way to go in this game...
@Willchannel902 жыл бұрын
Any spooky things, are deadly. Until gets messy.
@Mente_Fugaz2 жыл бұрын
Criminally underated game... it's a true nightmare
@Monarch_9432 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this game for so long
@kenm.a.d.7196 Жыл бұрын
I never want to know what was going on through the programmers' heads and why they wanted to see this child eaten and murdered in the most gruesome of ways
@Zhello792 жыл бұрын
Back then these games were not too kind to child protagonists. Ah the 90s they make sure no stone is left unchecked.
@elgerreyes23433 жыл бұрын
This game was so addictive back then I played it
@mememachine-386 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I remember having a pc game that gave me horrible nightmares. I can't remember for certain if it was this game or not, but the falling fmv looks so familiar and these death animations are so brutal that I'm almost convinced this was it.
@MarxGen24082 жыл бұрын
0:43 Mark:WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87?
@7thRoseHalo2 жыл бұрын
Issac Clarke: GODDAMN! That was brutal!
@PeaPea8D4 жыл бұрын
I repressed this game for years only for KZbin recommended to throw it in my face
@Thesavagesouls2 жыл бұрын
This was the perfect 80's adventure story. This game begs for a remaster on pc and consoles.
@keijijohnson97542 жыл бұрын
If it did, it probably would’ve gotten a T or M rating. Or heck, even a whole new rating made for it altogether.😅
@joannepruitt40556 жыл бұрын
Rated E...
@Jorge_super5 жыл бұрын
Your profile picture fits with your comment
@hanchiman7 жыл бұрын
That pretty gruesome death for a kid, meanwhile in Hollywood they don't show gruesome death of a kid :O still pretty neat though :D I think Japanese game don't show kids death except in a cartoony way with a "puff of smoke"
@Konh-Minh5 жыл бұрын
IF I DON'T SPAWN HERE, I'M GONNA LOOSE MY SHIT. THERE WE GO.
@theobserver65792 жыл бұрын
Why do all the deaths here seem less painful than going through the public education system?
@Digdiga2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing this game…. Gave me bloody nightmares
@federerlkonig3302 жыл бұрын
That shoe... It Just won't disappear...
@DAMusic-qu2ec2 жыл бұрын
The devs spent so much time on death animations. Interesting choice
@Linkonpark1002 жыл бұрын
They’ve really taken inspiration from Another World. And the deaths show.
@canadiancanucklehead83102 жыл бұрын
“Welcome to whoever made the death scenes should probably be sent to solitary confinement for life.”
@Azmeaiel2 жыл бұрын
nah he probably just became a ceo or upper management of a aaa company.
@Tounushi2 жыл бұрын
even without blood, these are brutal.
@MrJeroenreyns Жыл бұрын
I had so many nightmares of this game as a kid
@KitsuneShapeShifter7 ай бұрын
I remember playing this as a kid, absolutely horrified me; 10/10
@toongrowner16 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but at 3:44 when he explodes, it allways kind of funny to me. ^^;
@otsu30112 жыл бұрын
Why he explode tho
@dokiggy1Ай бұрын
This is such an underrated game, but holy sh!t it was horryfying when he got his spine snapped in half by this flying monster and then went quiet.