HEARTLESS MURDERER OR A TERRIFIED KID? - Bobby Gonzales - The Crime Reel

A heartbreaking case of a family torn apart by lies. This week on The Crime Reel we look at the lives of Bobby Gonzales and the Caldwell family from Texas.
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[@smileymesajr7135]

I did I personally know him I was at mconnell unit in El pretty boy bobby Gonzalez he has definitely changed his life smart guy real humble person he would give his shirt off his back for anyone I spent years by him real respectful what broke my heart was when he told me he had a capital life sentence I stayed silent cause I had a 7 yrs to do he always told me every year I'll be home this year or soon I told him you will be home soon have faith most definitely he deserves a second chance my respect and love to both families who continue to suffer through this free my homie bobby pb Gonzalez I know his TDC number by heart 647502 free bobby Gonzalez and the teen lifers behind them walls have you all will b home soon much luv and respect

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks for sharing this detail Smiley

[@mirandamarcilliotte2783]

I'm on the phone with Bobby now he remembers you too smiley

[@MiaDjojowasitoMalik]

Trouble is, there's a fine line between danger-to-society-psycho and "I made one bad decision as a minor", I think Bobby is the latter. IDK how I feel about Crissy but if she's capable of manipulation at that age, who knows what she's like as an adult. Pst, thanks for the upload Crime Reel. 🙏🏼💜💜

[@cannpdx781]

I agree, unless she was abused. The court said no evidence of it, but the father who's the victim denied it, certainly would not have admitted it. In fact, I question alot of the fathers behavior. I'm sure the prosecutor worked hard to make sure it was not proven. And if she had a public defender?? We know what a joke that was. I find it strange that so many feel differently about the young man who pulled the TRIGGER, then the girl who claimed abuse. I think there's alot of bias in this case.

[@beckyfarley60]

There is a huge difference between making a bad decision(ooops I won't cut my hair myself again) and deciding to murder 2 people completing at least 1 murder. Apples and oranges.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks Mia

[@violetfemme411]

I agree but feel that the fact that the father was racist was the catalyst here. I'm glad he realizes he was wrong to forbid their dating but I'm afraid it's far "too little too late."

[@fredajordan5704]

Mia : I so much agree.

[@lillymom7909]

Good Morning, Mr. Reel! I am Native Texan and lived there most of my life (and considering moving back... 😅). Texas has always been known for its tough stance on crime and punishment (ergo, the story you just provided). I am proud of my home state, but just like any other state, judicial flaws are made. This, to me, is an example of that. I do believe that these kids, despite their premeditated and despicable acts, were just that... kids. I feel they should've been sentenced to a much lesser period than life (like 15 to life). And then put under strict rehabilitation. Then after 15 years, give them a parole hearing. By this time they are adults and if they have shown no signs of Rehabilitation then give them the harsher one. I just feel like they should have been given one more chance at life.

[@TheCrimeReel]

very good suggestion there Lilly, thanks

[@baldeagle5297]

If we could only give the mother one more chance at life.

[@sleepygirlzzz6547]

So much going on here I dont know where to start, the poor mum that was shot, Bobby's family after accepting her into thier family and making her welcome and she does that! Poor Bobby a teenage boy in his first love and he thought he had to protect her and her sister, utter madness, brilliant as always 👍👍 🙂

[@irma567]

Good day Crime reel glad you posted , means you are oke.

[@TheCrimeReel]

HIya Irma

[@LilyS1031]

I'm so very glad that you covered the case. I feel that it's absolutely wrong to charge a child as an adult 'because they've committed an adult crime'. We are learning more and more about the brain's development and the differences impulse control, etc. There is a lot to be said on this and thank you for bringing it up. However terrible their crimes, they simply aren't adults and changes must be made to reflect this

[@stevenarmonia4869]

Under 18 should be up to the parole board after 25 years if the inmate has shown remorse and maturity.

[@saldebrowde7823]

@@LilyS1031 I know right! They seem to be charged as an adult not based on their development, brain or even age. It seems to be based on how angry we (society) is at them. Why is juvenile law different from adult law? Because their brains aren't fully grown yet! In my opinion there should only be one question asked to decide if a person is charged as an adult or a child: what age were they at the time of committing the crime? Even if a 16 year old does a heinous murder... he's still a 16 year old.

[@kevinpotts123]

Thanks for the upload Mr Reel. Have a great week buddy.

[@TheCrimeReel]

You too Kevin, cheers

[@Youser999]

Bobby got done dirty. I feel bad for him and his family. In the end, Vernon surprised me. He didn't seem like such a bad guy after all. I hope Bobby ends up getting parole and is able to have some semblance of a normal life. I personally think Kristi should be left to rot in jail. Thanks for another compelling case, Reelie!

[@meemurthelemur4811]

Good morning everyone!👋🦋🌈🌞🦄🍀❤🐶💐🤗🥰

[@janetcw9808]

GREETINGS XXX

[@meemurthelemur4811]

@@janetcw9808 hi Janet!👋🦋🌈🌞🦄🍀🐶💐🤗🥰

[@Agapy8888]

Gday My lovely friend.

[@Agapy8888]

@@janetcw9808 Hi lady Janet.

[@craigm2484]

Good morning 🌞.

[@The_Planted_Eye_1]

As heinous as this crime is I agree that a juvenile shouldn't get life unless they are truly emotionally disturbed. I definitely feel that in Bobby's situation he should have been allowed to pursue resentencing.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks Michael

[@TheRetirednavy92]

under recent SCOTUS ruling, under 18 cannot get life without parole. If he got life then he can apply for parole

[@lanacampbell-moore4549]

Good Morning Everyone ☕ Thanks CR💋

[@TheCrimeReel]

Good morning Lana

[@lanacampbell-moore4549]

@@TheCrimeReel 😊❤️

[@Melody-mu6nk]

A both shocking & sad case! Shame one can't turn the clock back! Have a good week Mr Reel 🙋

[@14rnr]

Thanks for your reporting, I really like your work.

[@TheCrimeReel]

My pleasure cheers R n R

[@14rnr]

@@TheCrimeReel It can't be easy finding original content each week so hats off to you.

[@tross8863]

Hello Crime Reel, thank you again for giving me something interesting to do first thing in the morning 😊

[@TheCrimeReel]

you are welcome, cheers mdlp

[@BLARG09]

Thinking someone you love is being abused and their little sister. Her telling him the only way to stop it is to kill them. The situation and his youth should have been taken into account.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Very true, thanks BLARGY

[@kathyjones1576]

I just said the same thing. But I do agree with her being tried as an adult. She manipulated the situation, knowing he was in love and, in his mind, was defending her. She knew exactly what she was doing.

[@cannpdx781]

@@kathyjones1576 I don't necessarily disbelieve her accusations against father. Yes she did encourage the crime, but if she had mental health issues and was 16, how much control did she have over herself? We have adults who kill in a fit of rage while drunk or on drugs and they don't get life in prison. It is my belief that USA still has an archaic veiw of children and crime.

[@katewilliams9480]

Hello beautiful BLARG 🤗🌻🌹🌼⚘💐🌷🌸

[@kathyjones1576]

An archaic view of children and crime is the problem. It says that children shouldn't be tried as an adult, even when the crime itself is considered an adult crime. Unless they really do have a mental illness that makes them unable to comprehend evil, they should be tried as an adult. This girl is narcissistic, she wanted her parents out of the way so she could live without being under their authority.. She found somebody who believed her lies. She knew what she was doing.

[@cackalackaboi9737]

Happy Wednesday to all!! I hope you’re having a great day across the pond CR! Cheers from a far!

[@TheCrimeReel]

Have a nice day Boi

[@vampirequeen953]

Such a tragic and pitiful case!! I'll never truly understand why people do the things that they do or what goes through their mind @ the time?!! Honestly people really do make me wonder about a lot of things!! Off topic I wanted to say that "The Crime Reel" does such a wonderful job on their videos!! 😊😊😊😊

[@TheCrimeReel]

good point VQ and thanks for the other part of your comment

[@vampirequeen953]

@@TheCrimeReel Thank you I really appreciate that 😊😊 and you are very welcome 😊😊

[@cannpdx781]

@@vampirequeen953 I so agree, I subscribe to lots of channels, but I sooo look forward to TCR. I also enjoy all the other subscribers here. We seem to hang out in harmony, even when we have different opinions.

[@vampirequeen953]

@@cannpdx781 So do I!!! I also subscribe to a lot of channels as well but TCR is quite interesting!!!!

[@fredajordan5704]

Vampire Queen. Yes, this case is tragic and extremly sad. I feel bad for Vernon looding his wife and Bobby being manipulated by a real phycho to do what he did. He should be freed soon, not so Krissi.

[@zero_bs_tolerance8646]

Great start to my birthday!

[@meemurthelemur4811]

Happy birthday Zero!!👋🦋🌈🌞🦄🎂🥂🍾🎉🎊🎁

[@TheCrimeReel]

Happy Zeroth birthday

[@Agapy8888]

Wow. Happy Birthday. Many more returns.

[@irma567]

Happy birthday!!!

[@charlottesometimes6977]

Happy birthday 🎂🎈🎉🎁

[@markandmona]

This video leaves lots of food for thought! Such difficult issues regarding the lives of so many. Thanks Crimie.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Glad it was helpful cheers Mona

[@stewartmeetball3417]

Sick sick sick individual.. great watch though .thank you tcr

[@mlpugh1]

Great thought provoking story. I believe that the punishment should fit the crime. Yes they were juveniles and should be rehabilitated if possible, but the depressing realization comes with the knowledge that they may never again be a free citizen, which in turn may contribute to their rehabilitation. I know that some adults who have committed capitol murder have been released on parole after 20 plus years, but probably not in Texas. Poor little greedy brat that Krissi was snagged Bobby into doing this horrible crime. Very sad indeed. Thanks again CR! Have a blessed day!😘

[@TheCrimeReel]

Great comment as usual MLP, thanks for that

[@jenniferlee6955]

Thank you for your observations regarding juveniles being tried & sentenced as adults. You are correct, juveniles do not possess the same capacity of reasoning skills that mature adults exhibit; their brains are still developing! As a citizen of Texas, USA ( actually not too far from where this case has its beginnings & I actually remember local news reports), it can be so maddening to learn of ridiculous and cruel sentences (not a shocker here in TX) that are not equitably distributed. Our system is geared towards punishment NOT rehabilitation/correctional interventions. It is set up to fail and rates of recidivism continue to escalate. It's heartwrenching to hear of 15 & 16 year old children placed behind bars without hope.

[@LadyArtist3059]

As teenager, you know the difference between right and wrong

[@deedragongirl]

Another great video for me to enjoy during the lockdown!

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks for the support Dee

[@reneelaufer1161]

This happened in Frisco. The Caldwells were our friends and lived behind us. Buzz and Rosalyn were good people. Before Chrissy and Bobby were arrested, lots of people thought Brandy had been behind the shooting because she’d just had a baby out of wedlock and her parents were disappointed. Bobby was a sweet, naive kid. I think Chrissy’s sentence is fair. She planned this for a long time and manipulated Bobby into it.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks for this Renee

[@wonmin2121]

I'm sorry, but if they were "good people", they would never refuse the interracial relationship between their daughter and Bobby. That is technically racism.

[@Jolenesmart1980]

@@wonmin2121 agreed good people wouldn’t stop a relationship based on skin colour

[@alliekingsley7919]

How are you gonna say they were good people when they were racists? I'm not going to say they deserved to be murdered for racism, but holy shit, that's NOT good people.

[@jenniferlee6955]

At the time, if I remember correctly, in the state of TX, a 16 year old could petition the court for full emancipation rights. Do you happen to know if that's what Chrissy was doing and that's why her parents tried to evict her from their home?

[@lisetteeliseparis7070]

Thank you so much, CrimeReel. Cases like this are horrible. (Hello CrimeyFam!)

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks Lisette

[@QBHopper]

There was another case very similar to this one, where the boyfriend tries to rescue his girlfriend from "abuse" by killing her family. It sucks but I'm pretty sure it happens more often than we think.

[@ZeeAllieNY10010]

Great narration Cr and very informative for juvenile justice. Pretty sad for all involved.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks Allie

[@bettyjames4155]

Hi ZeeAllieNY10010! I haven't seen you around for a bit.

[@ZeeAllieNY10010]

@@bettyjames4155 Good Morning Betty. I’ve watched the videos but didn’t post. Very kind of you to ask 😊

[@atodamadre3197]

Another episode of ungrateful punk ass kids. I've seen this story on another channel as well. Good work.

[@TheCrimeReel]

thanks

[@alfordcas650]

My Wednesday just got interesting. Thank you for the video.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Very welcome

[@joanmatsuda9056]

Thank you so much for this case, I love your channel❤️

[@TheCrimeReel]

You are so welcome! thanks Joan

[@karenfitzpatrick6256]

I've dealt with many juvenile offenders. It's absolutely true that teenagers have not usually developed the maturity to understand the meaning of death or their own lifelong consequences of murdering someone. I'm thinking of these two in the video. Bobby would apt to be a successful candidate for rehabilitation Though I wonder if her pathology is too severe... This is what I think, for a first offence in a major crime such as murder, a full psychological and physical work up should be done immediately after conviction. As well as a comprehensive home study to determine factors that may have led to the crime. Which would be the focus of the time to be served. Create a program (1 to 7 years depending on the age of the offender) in a real juvenile jail that houses only kids who've been tried and convicted in the Adult Court. A reeducation program and continued schooling should make it truly a rehabilitation sentence. With The focus on ethics, morality, obligations, consequences, social responsibility and restitution. And the development of outside interests and hobbies and supervised socialization. Providing ongoing intense regular therapy and mental health care, including the option of medication, as well as the opportunity for skill training or higher education. Their remaining in the program would have to depend on six months reviews of progress and compliance. If they can not comply and are disruptive, particularly if they show signs of dangerous psychopathy or increasing violent tendencies, then they'd have to forfeit the program and be returned to serve out their original sentence in adult prison. A complete re-evaluation should be done between the ages of 18 to 20. If they have shown no sign of advancement with the maturity expected and the rehabilitative program. They would have to go into the adult prison. As likely they would be incorrigible. If they are responding well and the re-evaluations indicate they are progressing, a secondary rehabilitation center would be needed to house these young adults to continue the program. I'd think someone with no priors, may be a good candidate for a some kind of step down supervised housing, still a "Jail" but still providing regular therapy and annual psych evaluations with the goal of release if completed. Complete in house living until they reach thirty. But then for five years with a gradual reintroduction into sociey. Working toward full autonomy, though still under Court Supervision with standard Parole guidelines, (which would have to be for life, in a life sentence.) During the last two years of the program to include finding stable employment, support systems and independent housing. With the planned release after they reach the age thirty-five. During the time served, any significant or habitual violations, should result in either tightening the restrictions to a higher level or a return to prison to complete the sentence and abandonment of earning a parole. Honestly I think we need an overhaul in prisons. Some people will just not be eligible for release because of their antisocial behavior. Rehabilitation does not work for everyone. But it seems unfair that an older child or very young adult should not have a chance at freedom. But needs help to make it successful. A program like this wouldhave a high start up cost and take a lot of planning. But if the result actually helps people rehabilitated and return back into the community as contributing members in society, it would be worth it.

[@johnlandau7111]

I agree 100 per cent.

[@Luna.3.3.3]

I agree with you. Especially with young offenders, it should be *_rehabilitation_* that is concentrated on, not just lock them away, 'you're bad', without teaching them anything. I feel that's the case in many non-violent crime. Offenders should be given education so they can actually get a job when they come out. With some cases I've seen, sometimes, I think some people are just born bad. Perhaps not in this case... I don't know. For Bobby yes, for her, I'm not so sure.

[@frandistabile4723]

Good morning CR! Excellent narration of this story. I have never heard of this one. It is truly sad that they took this path in life. I can't imagine ever thinking of wanting to kill my parents, and the turmoil her father and sister went through. I applaud the dad for forgiving Bobby and going to see him and his family. Racism is so awful and I do believe Krissi played the major role in this horrible crime. Have an awesome day and enjoy the rest of your week!

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks for that comment Fran, cheers

[@frandistabile4723]

Your welcome and Cheers my friend!

[@srrr72]

I missed you!!! ❤😊😊it's going to be another great video!

[@TheCrimeReel]

Me too!! where you been??, cheers Shan

[@srrr72]

@@TheCrimeReel I've been here just a little busy lately 😊

[@jenniferryersejones9876]

Thanks, TCR!

[@TheCrimeReel]

thanks

[@ELKE-]

Great reading TcR.. The boy was manipulated by her, I believe. But crime has no excuses. Very sad indeed. Thank you for this upload

[@ELKE-]

Sorry I'm later, rain with thunder the whole morning, couldn't use internet! And still rain! Hope you are well. See you next! Thank you

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks Elke and thanks for watching even though it was affected by the rain

[@ELKE-]

@@TheCrimeReel Always my pleasure Sir! Thank you for great job. Will listen more later..

[@renee1961]

Thank You, Crime Reel, EXCELLENT, as ALWAYS!!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟⭐⭐💔💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 This is Very SAD!! Teenagers ,in Puppy Love, think with pure Emotions, in my opinion. All they see is them being torn apart. I always felt, and still do, people can't help who they fall in love with. If they're good to my Child, and are doing things the right way, I'm happy. Parents try Protecting the Child, but the Child doesn't see, or understand that. Mandatory Life, sometimes may not be appropriate. What about Adults, Sentenced to Life, and then get Released?? Stay well! Same time, same place Wednesday!! Hugs!💛💛💛💛💛🍀☺️🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks again for that Renee, very true words indeed, 💛💛💛💛💛🍀☺️🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

[@renee1961]

@@TheCrimeReel Always my pleasure, Crime Reel! Thank You, for the Nice response!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

[@TheInvestiGatorYT]

Thank you for working hard! Great content :)

[@TheCrimeReel]

Much appreciated!

[@CaitlynAmanda]

Very thought-provoking upload, Crimey! Thanks for all you do

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Thank you.

[@TheCrimeReel]

You're welcome!

[@cadillacdeville5828]

Morning EVERYONE 😊 sorry I'm late Crime Reel and fellow Reelies. 3AM workout left me tired 😴. The cicadas are out and they are just 🤢.

[@TheCrimeReel]

I saw about that in the news Caddy - hibernating for 17 years !! whats that all about

[@cadillacdeville5828]

@@TheCrimeReel I live in Maryland, USA- these type of cicadas hibernate underground for 13-17 years then come out in areas of the country. I've NEVER seen them before until a few days ago. I also HATE 🐝 insects. I'm guessing you don't get them across the pond 😁

[@TheCrimeReel]

@@cadillacdeville5828 heck no we dont. that being said the birds are digging something up at the moment every morning but not sure what it is

[@cadillacdeville5828]

@@TheCrimeReel I just watched this video on " Catch Me If You Can" 🎥. I have mentioned to them how I watched it on your channel and how he lied about so MUCH. And how he wasn't this cunning artist like he's portrayed and what he told people. I think this video still has a few inaccuracies , but maybe check it out when you get a chance: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWrZp6FrjL9oqpY

[@tammywardrobison]

Great job telling this story. Wonder if they will let Bobby out in 2027, maybe if the father speaks on his behalf?

[@TheCrimeReel]

That would definitely help him if the father spoke out for him, cheers Tammy

[@mirandamarcilliotte2783]

he and Mr Cadwell still do speak. Mr Cadwell is willing to speak to the tx parole board on Bobby's behalf

[@janetcw9808]

Good day CR and followers Worldwide Xxx 🙏🏼 ❤️ 🗺️ 🍀 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@TheCrimeReel]

Afternoon Janet

[@craigm2484]

Good day to you 😁.

[@Agapy8888]

Hi Janet

[@fionabell2931]

It's good night here DownUnder. But G'day to you. Have a great day 🙂

[@renee1961]

Hi, Janet!🍀💮🌞💛🌺☺️

[@emmabbyreborns341]

Vernon's forgiveness of Bobby was a kind gesture, and a path towards healing for himself. but how much better would it have been for everyone if he and his wife would have accepted Bobby as their daighter's boyfriend early on. If they had gotten to know him and his family would everyone's life have been better?

[@annehorrigan570]

Hello sir! Good morning, thank you for the narration, great as usual. ✌

[@TheCrimeReel]

Good morning to you Anne, thanks

[@Agapy8888]

Greetings friends and TCR. It’s going to be a lovely day with your narration.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Morning Ayape, thanks for the support

[@Agapy8888]

@@TheCrimeReel Always. ☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️

[@bettyjames4155]

Hi there Ayape!

[@Agapy8888]

@@bettyjames4155 hi Betty

[@craigm2484]

GOOD MORNING CRIMEY AND FRIENDS. 😁

[@meemurthelemur4811]

Hi Craig!👋🦋🌈🌞🦄🍀🐶💐🤗🥰

[@TheCrimeReel]

Hiya Craig

[@Agapy8888]

Hi Craig.

[@irma567]

Goodafternoon to you all 13.10 Over here !

[@caramelrhapsodyjesseslife]

Good morning to you also.👋🏽

[@lorrasites6962]

Good morning Crime Reel hope your day is wonderful, awesome job as usual.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks so much Lorra

[@peaceworld5393]

Hi CR Hope you and yours are doing well! O yes the young love can’t live without each other and parents of the girl disapprove, this story is a classic indeed! Being a Texan I remember this case of love and death. The pictures of them today all grow up is so heartbreaking, I’m glad the families are talking and combined so to speak. Seems as though the Dad /Mom was a little racist, but not a reason to kill. Just a crazy immature what are you thinking time in their lives. Such a heartbreaking story and thank you for sharing it ! 🐝safe

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks for that PW, great comment

[@cannpdx781]

A little racist lol..yes I agree. But I'm still on the fence if her father abused her? I also believe the father was a classic Narcissist. He only " forgave " his child when he needed to move on...with his life? Most will disagree with me, but I bet he was a super controlling person and that will effect a young person's mental health. But now she's in prison, no one will ever believe her on the accusation.

[@peaceworld5393]

@@cannpdx781 I seen a documentary on this plus in was in the news often, I don’t believe he sexually or other ways abused his daughters, most fathers are protective of their daughter’s, this seems to be a classic case of daughter wanting to be adult live by no rules , and will kill to get it ! Bad seed so to speak! Dad forgave and so did sister because in order to move on you have too forgive!

[@katewilliams9480]

I'll have to think on this one, so very sad. Thank you Crime Reel 👍

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks Kate

[@bettyjames4155]

Hi Kate!

[@kati-ana]

I can actually understand the father forgiving the boy before the daughter because the daughter is your blood, you except more and feel deeper betrayed. I am glad though he was able to forgive both. Forgiveness is restoring ones own life. It's freedom.

[@yaragi]

Thanks once again TCR for covering such an interesting subject. I really don't want to be unrespectful towards anyone, but I feel that cases like this are pretty hard - to cover, and otherwise.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks yaragi for your comment

[@cjillwrite8249]

As a developmental psychologist I have testified and assessed juveniles for court. Most if not all have reached adult logical reasoning thus they lack capacity. It’s sad how this information is routinely disregarded by the justice system.

[@davidp.5598]

Thanks CR. A very interesting case indeed! I must admit that I am torn as to what should be the punishment for these two "Kids." I think that poor Bobby was led by his "male parts" into this deed. I think that maybe he could be released one day. The girl, not sure she should ever be let go.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Hi David, thanks for that

[@REB65]

another good one Crimey 👍. Thanks, take care, and just one more thing… God bless y’all 🙏✌️

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thank you, I will

[@wandahall4435]

Great as always Crimey💖💖💖Ritzi & I send 💖💖💖 from Texas🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks so much to my Texas twosome

[@joseybryant7577]

Can't imagine the strength it took for Vernon to forgive them. I think life sentences should be a last resort. I also believe prison in general, as it is, is not working towards true rehabilitation. At least not in the US.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Very good point there Josey re forgiving. Thanks

[@staceykersting705]

yes, and something like 90% of prisoners are under 24 years old. A lot of them need more school/life skills than they do prison. Those who are not a threat to the community shouldn't even be there with the violent criminals.

[@potheadmike8510]

You can tell Bobby was a good kid, just by his pictures.

[@chab1rd155]

Thanks Crimey! Superb as usual! 😘

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks again!

[@TheBusterMan]

Nice one,Crime Reel.Keep up the good work!

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks, will do! cheers Buster

[@wesadams5128]

I mean... She helped kill her mom and almost her dad. If that doesn't deserve life in prison I don't know what does

[@pimpozza]

I *never* miss an episode but usually watch on the TV now and can't comment from there. I like seeing the visual content.. Always hit that LIKE though!👍And always appreciate our Crimey's take on these horrible crimes..

[@TheCrimeReel]

cheers Fi

[@starrysempai24]

It is Wednesday, my dudes~ AaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!! ☕🤗

[@TheCrimeReel]

Well hello there Austa

[@starrysempai24]

@@TheCrimeReel hello! Good to see you doing well!

[@tross8863]

Your exclamation made me smile 😁

[@starrysempai24]

@@tross8863 I'm glad, thank you!!

[@BenjaminTheHorn]

Another great one. Keep it up Good Sir.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thank you kindly Benjamin

[@jacquelineroundtree7541]

I feel after 12 years old they know right from wrong they need to be held responsible whatever age after 12 you take a life yours also should be taken even if it's sentenced to life without parole. Even children can be so evil. That they deserve the same punishment as adults. These days children are so disrespectful if their parents even if they grew up in a loving home.

[@erraticonteuse]

I agree that teens know the difference between right and wrong, but their capacity to make the right choice is diminished in other ways. Lots of people in the comments here are saying "if he thought she was being abused, he should have gone to the police". This is true, BUT she presented the murder option as if it were the only option, and it's an *incredibly* teenager thing to take that kind of black-and-white, either-or thinking at face value. Most kids and teens just don't think of other options by themselves. This is also why actual child molesters tell kids that if they tell anyone, the abuser will kill their family. Adults know immediately that that risk is so low and it's more important to tell someone what's happening. But kids and even teens (especially ones dealing with such big traumatic issues) believe that without question.

[@thresagraham8181]

A lot of forgiveness has gone on there✌️thanks TCR, you never fail👍🏻🌺🌼✌️

[@TheCrimeReel]

You are so welcome, thanks Thresa

[@kaylag769]

I feel like he can be rehabilitated he was young and in love and Krissi knew what she was doing.

[@sabro3492]

Excellent video Reelmeistergeneral!

[@TheCrimeReel]

Glad you enjoyed it! psst... loving my new name

[@Charlotte66666]

Fabulous stuff Crimey ❤

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks Charlotte

[@PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts]

Time youtube made other types of buttons along with like and dislike this was excellent, I love your calm voice. I think the kids have learned a huge lesson, their lives are ruined in terms of mental peace, time to set them free, especially Bobby

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks for the support Patricia

[@14rnr]

I would support Bobby getting a parole hearing right away, a gradual release programme and a monitored release.

[@TheCrimeReel]

yes that would be good, thanks R n R

[@christinerobinson890]

Let’s hope he has learned to not be so easily led and not to gravitate to the wrong sort of people.

[@deeceepnw]

Another excellent case Crimey! My dad was a native Texan and always said it was “another country”. I think their harsher stance against crime and autonomy in many other areas is indicative. Their justice system tends to be blind to many pertinent details in cases, as in this case relating to ages of the perpetrators and details. With all that said, I think Bobby being only 15, and having secretly dated for 2 years (that’s plenty of time for grooming and manipulation, plus what is the overall percentage of his lifetime?) should have had extenuating circumstances weighed in his sentence. Did he feel something needed to be done, after some 70 letters, yes. As a Hispanic in Texas, maybe he felt he didn’t have a voice to report the abuse either. Maybe she lied and said she had already tried. Who knows. It wouldn’t be the first time a juvenile had juvenile friends who knew something but weren’t allowed to testify or weren’t believed because the proposed offender was an upstanding member of society. I’m just saying, from Bobby’s point of view, he felt he had to do something.

[@marylevin9262]

omg i luuuuv your voice - ty for sharing that with us as well

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thank you so much Mary

[@marionbowler5440]

Excellent as always CR, enjoy the rest of your week, once done you can't undo a murder. You can't fix stupid, people will always suffer from injustice, if you cant change it, learn to accept it and move on.🇨🇦🐘🍁🤗

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks Marion

[@laramonroe3363]

Thank you for the overview of sentencing at the end. Very well done. I, for one, am dead set against sentencing a juvenile as an adult.

[@jokerwonderwoman9548]

I can't believe I missed the premiere! This case is very sad. From the parents not approving of the interracial relationship, to the fact that the daughter planned this for a long time, to Bobby committing the crime and being manipulated. I don't believe that Bobby is a bad guy. I just think he's extremely gullible, and that was his downfall. I do think he should be looked at for parole.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks JWW

[@annadamsoneadie]

Thanks for another interesting case

[@TheCrimeReel]

Glad you enjoyed it Ann

[@hollymorris785]

Excellent episode! I loved that you brought up the question of the punishment fitting the crime. I actually think that all offenders, regardless of age, deserve a chance at rehabilitation. It is hard to understand why the laws are not changed yet. We have definitive scientific evidence for what we all knew intuitively- teenagers do stupid things impulsively and hopefully learn and grow from their regrets. I don't think the American justice system offers most people real chances to get on the straight and narrow. They don't care about your mental or physical health, they can't even provide for your safety, and they have outsourced your basic care to for-profit corporations that pay loads of money to pass laws that put more people in jail for longer terms. I like the system they are trying out in... Norway? Watched a news piece about it. There is no extra punishment beyond the loss of your freedom. The "cells" look like dorm rooms. The recidivism rate is really low.

[@cheirepurgason6404]

Really interesting story, great job, as always ❣️⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thank you 🤗

[@mijiyoon5575]

Complicated argument & question *CR* ... I can't answer it off the cuff

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks Miji

[@SirKenchalot]

Life without parole is in some ways worse than a death sentence; I think it should be reserved for the worst of the worst and almost never for juveniles.

[@mijiyoon5575]

Good Morin'🥚🥓🧇🍩☕☕☕

[@TheCrimeReel]

Morning Miji

[@nicolevarnam2290]

Very sad story, but at least the Father and Sister got peace and closure. Thanks for All Ur Hard Work My Dear Friend 🤘💙🕵️✨🖤🤘. Pssst....... Excellent Job As Always 🤘🕵️🖤✨😘

[@TheCrimeReel]

THanks Nicole

[@lauriemcnaughton5916]

I'm so torn by situations like this. Krissi should definitely not be eligible for parole. The fact that she wanted her parents gone, then manipulated Bobby into trying to kill them, shows a mental state that I don't believe can be rehabilitated. Bobby, on the other hand, is more complex. A good kid, manipulated by his girlfriend, to commit murder... I still wonder about his ability to actually pull that trigger. It is that doubt about the mental capacity of a person to plan a murder that has me leaning toward a life sentence without parole, even for a teenager. Could he be convinced by someone else to do the same thing, if released? Maybe not. But should we risk someone's life to find out?

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks Laurie and yes it is a tough decision isnt it, thanks

[@shroomyk]

I like listening to these cases not just because of a natural human curiosity with extreme behavior, but also because it brings up some really good ethical questions on the nature of justice and punishment. Why do we charge children as adults in murder cases? Is that really a just and ethical thing to do, since their brains are not fully developed to consider the consequences and effects of their actions? Now in this case, the girl was manipulative but also the plan is quite childlike: she didn't like the rules and wanted some freedom, and she went around asking fellow classmates to do it, etc. It seems extremely unethical to imprison people for life and never give them a chance. I'm not minimizing what she did. I couldn't imagine ever being angry enough at my own parents to murder them, even as an angsty teen, but it really makes you think. I'm glad you brought it up at the end of this case.

[@TheCrimeReel]

great comment Shroomy, thanks for that

[@Gaetano.94]

Thanks for your fine narrating :) You are a great story teller and producer. You're going to be very big one day, along the likes of Mike from That Chapter

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thank you so much for that Gaetano - Mike has an amazing channel and I would be honoured if I could get to a tenth of his success. Keeping fingers crossed

[@Jivolt]

That “psssst” always scares the psss outta me.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Psst.... sorry about that John

[@rosewater3]

Happy Wednesday ❣️ I hope everyone is doing well and having a great week. Thank you, Crimey for yet another intriguing video 🕵️‍♂️🎞️🙌 How are things going with you across the pond? Wishing you and yours all the very best ❣️ Much love 💖🌈💐🌼💜🌺🦋🌻 Cheers ✌️💙✨

[@katiezee2]

If parents Forbid a relationship for their teenager, especially a girl-- that only serves to make them more determined to pursue it, why don't people know this by now?

[@naydorsey1398]

Good Morning! When u said curfew and the parents must be awaken no matter what, so they know she was safe. I knew then something was fishy. I hope someone starts a partition for Bobby.

[@TheCrimeReel]

That would be a good thing indeed, thanks Nay

[@staceykersting705]

U can contact Kendall Rae, on You Tube. She and her viewers petition for justice. Dannelle Hallan does the same. Both great story tellers, too!

[@crimson_dart]

Happy watching tcr fam.

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thank you 🤗

[@Jolenesmart1980]

Yay the crime reel and iv missed it so I’m glad I found it and didn’t have to go mooching

[@TheCrimeReel]

Nice to see you again Jolene

[@esterherschkovich6499]

Hi Crime Reel Family.Have moved again,by the sea.Happy Bank Holiday in the UK.Catching up on your videos Crimey 💚

[@TheCrimeReel]

nice to hear from you again Stella, Manchester / London and now Essex - enjoy your new surroundings

[@rosemarywebster7027]

Thank you for sharing your this case. So sad. It is horrible to be manipulated by someone especially when murder is involved. It is good that Vernon came to forgiveness of Bobby. That has to take courage. We need to forgive to move on. For bless the family members.

[@crissaconway142]

👍💙💙🤧 thanks C.R.

[@TheCrimeReel]

You are so welcome Crissa - have a good evening

[@MultiSirens]

Murder is murder don’t care what age you do it at, it is still a crime period! This is the attitude of many today and that’s exactly why we are facing the tremendous challenges we are in this age! It is still the golden rule period!

[@renee1961]

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[@TheCrimeReel]

HIya Renee

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[@Agapy8888]

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[@renee1961]

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[@mattc3696]

What a great episode, filled with lies, deception and murder. Her accusations against her father, apparently false, show some serious mental issues - reason enough to be a bit lenient. Has she ever admitted they were false? As for the boy, his crime, awful as it was, surely deserves a new look regarding his sentence. What a colossal waste for all concerned. Mr. Reel, you've done it again. Thank you!

[@TheCrimeReel]

Cheers for the support Matt

[@journeysalkebulan]

Hello C.R.! 💜💜

[@TheCrimeReel]

Hi Alke

[@esterherschkovich6499]

Sad story..for every one..😪but to forgive..is excellent.Such a shame if the Father had accepted her boyfriend yet hindsight is a wonderful.

[@TheCrimeReel]

thanks

[@ThatCrimeGuy]

I'm liking the Thumbnails, noticed the style change recently. Considering an overhaul?

[@TheCrimeReel]

Cheers TCG, just trying something different. To be honest, not sure if this was a good move, the dreaded algorithm is giving me zero support at the moment. It is nice to know that people have noticed though. Cheers Buddy. Your video was great yesterday by the way.

[@ThatCrimeGuy]

@@TheCrimeReel thanks man. Yeah, algorithm doesnt know what it's doing! Managed to get through the video during my break. I'm a firm believer of life means life, even if the person taking it isn't fully mature... good discussion starter though!

[@TheCrimeReel]

@@ThatCrimeGuy thanks