Heartstopper Season 3 Episode 5 Reaction - Christmas Chaos Unfolds!

[@ElisaH_DarklyiShine]

I love the idea that Torri arrived upset and Nick just sat her down and handed her a pug.

[@RapidObsessor]

hi just popping in from america to say that channels like this matter so much and will matter so much more in the coming years. the left wing media apparatus is non existent, corporations aren't even bothering with rainbow capitalism anymore, and actors/celebrities are increasingly staying silent. we need grassroots creators like this channel to keep doing the work to reach people.

[@ohwhatever]

IDK, naming dogs with human names is peak hilarity to me. :D Like, you're at the park, people around, and you are there shouting, "John! John! Come to papa! No, John! Leave that poop. Come on, John! Granpa is comming we need to go!" LOL

[@danieloneal7137]

The family dog in the flashback episode of Agatha All Along was “Greg” ffs

[@StevenGerischer]

Every Brit : "Where's the gravy?" 😆

[@salemoh9759]

Germans too 😉

[@ariadnepyanfar1048]

@@salemoh9759 Aussies with a roast 😭 (A lot of us have moved to seafood and salad platters instead of roasts, European and Middle Eastern sweets and cold berry puddings instead of Plum pudding with custard, and a strawberry in a glass of champagne sorry sparkling wine instead of brandy/hot alcohol/eggnog drinks. Summer Christmas as exemplified by Tm Minchin’s White Wine In The Sun)

[@salemoh9759]

@@ariadnepyanfar1048 i love meat 🤤

[@slm_766]

And some Americans

[@PokhrajRoy.]

My main takeaway is that David has the WEIRDEST hairstyles.

[@oneish7454]

Can you tell me what's so weird about them? I honestly don't get it

[@Bilbilaul]

​@@oneish7454it doesn't suit his head shape

[@dawnmolloy9351]

The mustache does NOT work.

[@blemelin]

The actor's hairline is receding quickly, and he's relatively young for it. Most guys struggle with that and go through a number of awkward hairstyles until they finally just shave it back or otherwise cut it short. Or get a transplant or a piece.

[@elizabethstover3033]

Josh is honestly right to be worried about fireworks and fires. It hasn’t (and I imagine won’t) come up in the show, but in Solitaire (Tori’s novel) fireworks getting out of control and causing injuries amongst the teens is a plot point! I won’t spoil the other time fire comes up in the book, but iykyk lol

[@slm_766]

In a couple of episodes-- the one with the bonfire (2x3) and this one -- I too *noted* the fire hazards (to myself). I live in California, where, throughout my lifetime (I'm 73), there have been annual fire seasons. And in the last few years, they have been increasingly bad. Some have been set off by a variety of 'triggers' (most being through carelessness) and in at least one recent year that I can remember, a whole town was leveled. I suspect that England is a lot wetter, and maybe the citizens are more careful about creating clearings and not tossing matches around...

[@elizabethstover3033]

@@slm_766 Hey, I'm from California too! The bonfire in 2x3 was craazy to me. You're probably right about England being much wetter.

[@locker.535]

Fellow Doctor Who fan here!! ❤the latest season with Ncuti was so great and filled with queer goodness 🎉 I’d watch with yall!

[@breekrach3241]

You two have quickly become one of my favorite reactor duos 😊

[@ariadnepyanfar1048]

Such great company

[@johnking5174]

I used to dread Christmas Day growing up. We had such a large family around us, with many cousins, aunts, uncles etc coming to the house. I hated the moment when they would ask if I had a girlfriend yet, and this was around 1999/2000 when things were only very very slowly getting better for LGBTQ+ people, but a lot of homophobia around when I was a teenager back then. New Year's Eve was always better, when I was with my friends.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

I missed James in the series. He’s awesome!

[@danieloneal7137]

I was definitely expecting him to be in it a bit more. There also wasn’t enough of Coach Singh.

[@J_Mock92]

I love the conversations around sex that this season has, particularly with Elle and Tao (but it applies to everyone in a way), because sex can be awkward and scary at that age (it can be awkward enough between adults), but that doesn't make it any less exciting and I'd imagine there could be a whole extra level to it for someone who's trans (I'm not trans and can't really speak to that from personal experience, but would assume that it could feel even more complicated and potentially confusing than it already is in general). Normalizing the conversations around those types of things is so important for young people to see (and just people in general tbh). These "kids" have had such mature and open conversations about such things (that most adults can't even really discuss tbh), and I really appreciate the care and effort that's been given to exploring such topics ❤

[@karen4624]

When I was a teen in the 70s, I had a friend who named their cat Hashish, realized her folly when she was standing outside her apartment call the cat. There are only so many dog names to go around. Yasmin is in 4 episodes of Doctor Who.

[@lizethqp2258]

Thank god you said "you have to put yourself first" when charlie walked out of his house and went to nicks.... bc a lot of people even fans are saying things like it was not fair on tori, and charlie was being selfish and making it a big deal. I was so SURPRISED when i hear that bc charlie literally just walked out and didnt make an argument. I would have probably yell at everyone and make it really unconfortable :D

[@yeahjoanna]

Agree on David and that not all characters have to be redeemed! Although I must say, as someone who grew up with a similar type of dad, I still understand him a tiny bit? Not the being an arse but just this very very sad belief in that the he will eventually show up. I relate to being so childishly optimistic, it's just so strange once you realise what's actually happening, like waking up and wondering how you didn't see it sooner. Nick has realised he won't show up (and my baby brother did faster than I did too), but until David gets to that realization himself, my guess is he'll keep being terrible and that's just quite authentic (and again, very very sad) in my eyes. Thanks for a wonderful reaction, keeping me company on a boring train ride ❤️🥰

[@767wattsy]

Speaking of dog names, an old friend of mine wanted to call his dog I Like Shouting, just so he could stand in a park and call out “I like shouting!” Also, I had a such a visceral reaction to David appearing on my screen. Even before he turned around at the table and we saw his face I knew it was him and I was instantly consumed with rage. Credit to the actor for making him so genuinely unlikable!

[@slm_766]

A friend of mine lived in a sort of communal house in northern California (in the late 1960s-early 1970s). One of her housemates had a dog named "Snatch." Some laughed, others cringed, whenever he called the dog home. 🤣

[@ang_1989]

Love the eye roll when discussing dog names.

[@johnking5174]

It is so sad to see David here, really wanting his father to come to dinner for Christmas. The inevitable failure of his father must be crushing for both brothers. David seems to hold his father on a pedestal which his father does not deserve.

[@schuhschrank947]

I guess David misses his father more than Nick because he was older when their parents split up. I don't think he gets along with his mother as well as Nick does. That makes him feel left out. So he is in a sad position. But that should not be a reason for beeing a homophobic idiot.

[@johnking5174]

@@schuhschrank947 Some guys like him just simply don't understand gay people. They have been brought up by a parent and friends to be hard as nails and straight. However I remember Alice saying, David does come round to accepting Charlie as Nick's boyfriend. He may never be a strong friend, but the ice does thaw and a little bit of respect comes from him.

[@Hop3fulRomantic]

Honestly he can jump in front of a bus! 😠 You can't say that! 😮 Okay... He can WALK in front of a bus!! 😡😤🤬 😂💀😂💀😂💀😂

[@salemoh9759]

I love thit, their putting the red book "this winter" in 🥰 and charlies spanish grandparents don't know he is gay

[@megdelaney3677]

Michael reminds me of Moss on The IT Crowd. 💚

[@The_Black_Caps]

Tori is my favourite character istg

[@Mixxie67]

I like some human names for pets. It depends. My dogs are Panda (toy poodle), Smudgr (Great Dane), Bodger (lab mix pup), and Lucy (possible heeler mix).Lucy was my daughter’s dog but her activity level was overwhelming for my grandson who is autistic so now she’s mine. My cats are Soupy, Tilly, and Pip, all named by same grandson. And yes, I have too many pets. 😂

[@SaulRivas-y8n]

The way his mother behaved tells you how damaging her parents were. She is so nice and caring in comparison to get mother. So cold and harsh.

[@slm_766]

Charlie's relatives are very ignorant about what eating disorders entail and about the kind of place where Charlie was staying. They talk about the illness as though he was in a car accident one day, got injured, went to a hospital and is now completely fixed up (back to normal as though nothing ever happened). This is so incredibly far from the truth. The stay at the eating disorder hospital was just to get him started on the road to recovery. It entails checking on his malnutrition and giving medical treatment to reverse that; finding out the root causes of his OCD + ED, and beginning to learn strategies to cope with the triggers that lead to the unhealthy behavior and thought processes. Going home does not mean he's "all fixed up"; it means that now he has to continue with therapy and learn to apply what he's learning to the greater context of being in his family and the community. He is still in recovery. He has a long way to go. And it's not a case of being "back to normal"; Normal was not what was 'back there' in the past --- he's still working on moving ahead so that his future is healthier. The relatives also talked about his hospital stay as a stay in a psychiatric facility for "crazy people." Strait jackets etc. * * * On one channel, the Reactor thought that Charlie's mom should not have even told the relatives about Charlie's medical issues, since she knew how they were and how they reacted to stuff like that. * * * My thoughts about how Charlie's parents were dealing with Charlie had to do with issues of family therapy. His dad seemed to be making an effort to talk things over with Geoff. He is the one keeping track of Charlie's meal book. He found out from Geoff that feeling stressed on Christmas was normal. And Dad told Charlie about that, so Charlie would feel less stressed. Dad even learned the special breathing techniques just in case he needed to do them along with Charlie. His mom was under a lot of stress herself because the relatives were from her side of the family and they were ignorant and judgmental. She was making an effort but she has not been taught strategies that would really be helpful for Charlie. Some therapists have the parents come in for sessions so they can learn what things add to stress and which things can reduce the stress. (As you can recall, Nick's aunt emphasized that Nick should avoid the conversations about food or weight.) Unfortunately, Charlie's mom had not been taught that in sessions with the therapist, so her immediate reaction to Charlie's stress was to push more food at him and to talk about his not eating everything on his plate. Charlie had even asked her not to push food at him. And when she did it anyway, he told her that was not helping. If she had been educated about these issues, she would not have kept at it. And since there was no respite in sight, it was reasonable for Charlie to extricate himself from all the triggers. (Remember that the triggers were what could lead him to self-harm. He was actually protecting himself from that) So leaving to go to a place where he felt safe, such as Nick's house with welcoming, unjudgmental people was a healthy thing to do. [Yes, Nick's jerk of a brother was there, but we saw that if Nick left the brother alone to sulk about the absentee father, the brother's ignorant rants could be avoided.] * * * Yes, it was tragic that Tori was left alone to fend against the relatives. But the solution to that was not an easy one. It is easy for us to say -- Charlie should take her along. But Charlie was already weighed down with all the strategies he was trying to use to keep from falling more ill and more self-destructive. It would have been helpful if Tori just went to Nick's place on her own --- and eventually she did. The problem with tagging along with Charlie was that Tori did not really know Nick's extended family, so Nick would have to take care of both Charlie and Tori at the same time. That would be difficult for everyone. BUT it did work out when Tori went to Nick's house later on. Charlie had had a chance to fit in, in the safer environment and get emotional sustenance from Nick, first. It would have been nice if Tori felt she did not have to wait all afternoon before joining them. It would have been helpful if she and Charlie made an agreement that he would go over first and then in, say, an hour Tori could join him there. Charlie could have been able to explain the situation to Nick before she got there, so Nick could be emotionally/socially prepared for her visit. Although Charlie can communicate with both Tori and Nick, under normal circumstances -- at the point when he was getting ready to bail on his own house, he could barely explain his thoughts beyond one sentence. And the thoughts were all centered on protecting himself, which is what he is supposed to do while recovering. Until later in the day, the best Charlie was able to do was apologize to Tori, acknowledging that she, in fact, treated him as other than mentally ill. * * * I noticed that on New Year's Eve, the 'do-over' day, Charlie, Tori, and Nick socialized much more easily and it seemed as though Charlie and Tori had reconciled and were on better terms.

[@donnasmith6738]

As a massive Doctor Who fan, I would LOVE LOVE LOVE if you reacted to some Doctor Who!

[@alicemorter2638]

Love these reactions so much, you two are both gems. As a fellow Dr Who fan I wanna remind everyone that The Doctor had a gay kiss way back in 2005 with Captain Jack, who is a fantastic character. I don’t know about the original series but the reboots have certainly always been rather queer. And I would totally turn up for any Dr Who reactions! Anyway off to binge your OFMD reactions

[@BadWolfRT]

Was looking for this comment! That was Nine/Jack erasure that I won't stand for! 😂

[@karinajara6124]

Guys, please turn on the subtitles! I want to be able to understand everything. This is my favorite episode of Season 3; I’ve been looking forward to it so much!

[@Knightowl1980]

Seriously pleading for you to check out “English teacher” for a series

[@user-qu8zs7vs1x]

And Agatha All Along!!!!

[@1Lanavis1]

Second this. The lead guy/teacher is the same one behind Caleb Gallo (he plays the titular character)

[@Knightowl1980]

@ 2 votes !

[@amckinna]

THANK YOU. I am so glad someone else has picked up on Heartstopper's gravyphobic agenda

[@slm_766]

🤣

[@dani.p]

15:27 Me already singing Can't Get You Out of My Head's intro 😆 YES, please!!! (hopefully not on patreon tho, I'm economically poor 😅)

[@katiejca]

Shablam! 😂

[@beans1030]

I love that this had an option to translate. It says template 😂

[@sidsid6380]

My dogs have always had regular names - they fam that way.

[@glennwalter1969]

I’ve been waiting for this episode! I love when Heartstopper is the topic!! Love you guys!!💋❤️🛑

[@PanicRoom1]

Finally ! 😌🥹♥️

[@lindawalsh514]

I've been waiting for this reaction from you both you are two of my favorite reactors. I agree with you Alex where is the bloody gravy !!!!!!!! Love from Australia.

[@slm_766]

This American is in agreement!

[@JTTaylor-w9f]

Now, a time for discovery.

[@ariadnepyanfar1048]

Yeah, you can see the generational emotional/mental illness cycle now really clearly, especially if you’ve had personal/professional experiences. As an asthmatic, every time I see a pug dog my chest starts hurting in sympathy for trying to suck air through that extremely constricted nasal passage. Like trying to suck air from underwater through a straw. Per Elle’s story, another Thank Universe for Alice Osman and Heartstopper. The world needed this show so badly. I found out recently Alice, the author of the Solitaire/Heartstopper universe also was on set every day and consulted on things like all the details in the bedrooms, the clothes, the mannerisms of the characters. (No Kit Connor, you cannot sometimes say ‘hello’ to Charlie to change things up). So I think the missing gravy is very intentional and you’re supposed to notice.

[@slm_766]

Turns out, after Kit commented about wanting to change things up by saying 'hello' but being rebuffed --- in season 3, Nick says "Hello" a couple of times, and Charlie says it back once. The context is a little different, though. The usual "Hi-hi" (or occasional "hey-hey") was used as an affectionate greeting after they had not seen each other for a while (whole days or longer). The breathy Hi-Hi exchange (after the first few times they used it) became a sort of stand-in for an unspoken "I love you." So it made absolute sense to insist on keeping the Hi-Hi. But Nick said "Hello" in 3x1 when he went to sit by Charlie at the beach (when he noticed Charlie was having trouble eating). I'm not sure which episode the other happened; I'm thinking it happened during Charlie's birthday party (3x6). Nick was sitting off by himself in a chair drinking what looked like orange soda. Charlie (who seemed a bit drunk) sidled over to him, sat on his lap, and kissed him. Then they said "Hello-hello". If it was there, Alice likely approved it, though.

[@ariadnepyanfar1048]

@@slm_766 definitely picked up on the initial breathy Hi-Hi as a conscious crush and an unconscious mirroring/crush, that settled into a coded love language ❤

[@jshie20]

OMG - please do that Dr Who ep !

[@The_Black_Caps]

Yall should react to how to get away with murder, its excellent, thrilling and gay

[@juliafloreshernandez6854]

You guys got to react to el secreto del rio is an amazin beautiful story

[@bingleyausten]

And David overtakes Ben and Harry in the most hated character race. Good to see somebody with some sympathy? understanding? of Charlie's family. I wonder whose bed Elle and Tao commandeered.

[@ariadnepyanfar1048]

Still Ben. Can’t forgive the emotional and physical domestic abuse.

[@slm_766]

@@ariadnepyanfar1048 And the long-term trauma that Charlie is still dealing with a year later.

[@megdelaney3677]

💙💛

[@reyhan3mim]

Can you guys please review the 'Emilia Perez' movie in future?

[@NimseyLou]

Love your reactions. My favorite by far. In the books, Tori is Ace and loved the nod to this in the color of the fireworks behind her. I believe in the show she is still Ace but not aromantic. 🖤🩶🤍💜

[@That_Crazy_Cat_Lady]

Wholeheartedly disagree with giving pets human names! I love all names people give to their pets, silly and serious. Mine all have human names HAHA

[@patrickortega5144]

Oh j ai pas les sous titres 😢 there are no subtitles,I don’t understand English 😢

[@slm_766]

And some of us have hearing issues; the subtitles really help.

[@hah424]

Shablam!! 😂

[@MelanieROSE-lt8et]

Reaction to love in the air please

[@tonymit.i]

Just love your reactions