Heat Management in Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries | Full Mission Gameplay

[@gregvw123]

Hi Baradul! I suggest you do the one mech solo challenge. The assassination mission with a single mech, no heavier than 70 tons, built out any way you want. You have to reach the drop ship alive. ;-) Up vote if you like the idea.

[@randomjoeooo]

4:24 Mech tries to eject itself off planet. LOL

[@MrDagobert666]

Critical Jumpjet Fail? No just a Bug Not a Feature^^. It is PG...

[@Alzorath]

I've noticed lights do love flying when you take their legs out lol, had one vault over my cicada while doing a test run

[@KroMagnum4]

Holy bouncing Commando Batman! Yeah MWO has spoiled us. Stock mode - fun mode.

[@TheExard3k]

I ran a full stock campaign (no armor tweaks, no nothing) in Battletech with the new DLC and guess what I'll do on dec 10th? 100% Battletech Variants for me, 3025 style

[@c182SkylaneRG]

@@TheExard3k I did that originally (getting all of the + weapons I could get my hands on, though, and making due if I didn't have the exact replacement weapons available), and I've been doing that in MWO for years. :) The only thing I've been forced to do in MWO is get Double Heat Sinks on most IS 'mechs... There are VERY few IS builds which can get away with using single heat sinks...

[@Ganymede_the_great]

Yeah, Mechwarrior mechanics are adapted from Battle tech and first introduced by the tabletop rules. Those rules where turn based while 1 turn should represent about 10sec. The Rifleman antiair weapon platform was designed to send alpha strikes against mobile air target's which only offer short windows of opportunity, in mech to mech combat the rifleman was under armored and had no durability due to the heat management only allowed for weapon usage about every 2-3 turn so about every 25 sec. This was a trade off of the high range burst load out making the mech a support fire class not a typical front line unit. So for this i think the build still performs quite sustainable (even for a winter map). What concerns me much more is the power fantasy aspect adapted by the arcade games and the extreme hero story from the novels. You go in with one lance and fight of multible lances and support from helis, tanks and turrets (still no love for infantry). The game is still designed in a way that this against all odds situation usually end up with u destroying all enemies and not losing a single lance member. So the player and his NPC lance outperforms the enemy setup by such huge amounts it just feels ridiculous. I know this is the basic assumption of almost every fps game but mech fights are in the most part resource fights (firepower/armor/mobility) and skill, lucky shots, strategy play a minor role in the games setting so this level of over performance feels odd. Why do skill, luck and strategy barely matter? Skill is limited to spread damage and focus fire. This is worth a lot but not much more than being able to go through two 1on1's in a row if even that. Luck, here is no OneHitKill in this games, no massive crit damage (unlike in the tabletop). This is good to the regard that those mechanics would also work against the player and feel like pure rng results. Strategy, u got 4 mechs a limited amout of options and a fixed setting of engagement. Very little room for strategic choises. You are merly down to the balance of mobility, firepower,and armor and what weapon systems/heatmanagment to prefer. I expect heavier mechs to be more viable later in the game due to the lack of choices in engagements, so it boils down to range and burst trade offs. What would stll work and feel much more realistic would be fighting and equal amount on enemys. Fighting more enemys but set them in smaller groups or even single them out. Fight against large amount of enemys but heaving a large amount of allys making you one of the lucky ones in a huge battlefield where both sides have reasonable losses. Allowing for acutall stragegic advantages like support artillerycalls better terrain/positios (low range enemys with obstuced terrain / long range enemys in citys | maze like areas) or mecanics that allow to acctualy supprise and overcome enemys with sneak attacks where enemys mechs are not even powerd and stuff like that. This are common ways to make these massive overperfomances at least somewhat belivable, and they are used by a lot of games. But Mechwarrior keeps thowing metal against metal and having the player feel good for making his 60 tonns magicly weight 150 tons without telleing (or like me feel bad course i figure out i just win due to massive cheating done for me)

[@Ganymede_the_great]

Just to be clear what I mean by super outperforming. In this skirmish he fought of 1 light Lance, 1 heavy\assault Lance, and finally 2 heavy lances at once. All three of these waves accompanied by medium vehicle support. Himself bringing a single heavy Lance this is just really over the top. If u actually had a mercenary business a contract for those odd's (if known) would not be acceptable for any amount of money as the chances to see payday at all is far from likely.

[@JDBriceProductions]

So far in the demo, any brawling builds I run have stacked medium lasers over heavier ones.

[@Blarg892]

Nice to see someone else's PC stuttering and lagging in the damned snow area! I'm just happy to know it's not just my rig, it's PGI's optimization. :)

[@ShatteredAce]

Yeah, some mechs do just run hot. I've squeezed a lot of heat sinks into some builds, and when the fighting hits its peak, I DO have to ease off of my main weapons a bit. Actually, I ran an Annihilator, and it kept shutting down. Everything dropped though...When I could hit them.

[@init3]

Thanks so much for posting all of these preview videos. I'm pretty excited for this game to launch. It looks like quite a bit of fun!

[@benwatts5736]

Thanks for the time and effort put into these Baradul! Still not sure I'm sold on this next iteration of the game, it's seems like a Mech version of a game that sits somewhere inbetween Arma and COD. I know this is still Beta so will wait until the full game, and vids, are out to make a final decision. Graphics look nice, flames look awesome. Lights need to be faster, AI needs a huge improvement for both teammates and enemy. I like the idea of having to pay for the damage to your mech too, should make it slightly more tactical. Bring on the 15th (or a month after) so we can see the real game!!

[@androssthered1157]

Rifleman is known to be a hot mech. Drop the larges and swap them for 2 meds extra armor/ heat sinks

[@sedghammer]

Mechs like the Rifleman are meant to stay in cover and shoot from range - popping out to take shots and then duck behind a hill/buildings.

[@c182SkylaneRG]

I had an amazing game of MWO in a Jagermech a week ago, during the challenge, where, miracle of miracles, the teams didn't NASCAR (it might have been a Faction match, actually, but it was on Tourmaline), where I was able to hill-hump at about 900m, right at the range of the AC/2's, and a little outside ideal range for the AC/5's. Exactly the kind of scenario the Jagermech was designed for, and getting to play it in that situation was SO satisfying!!! And so much fun! NASCAR is for Cicadas. I wish we could play MWO with firing lines... I remember when I started playing MWO almost 6 years ago, and the call would go out at the beginning of the match to "Form on the Assaults". NASCAR seemed to start getting to be a bigger and bigger problem as that call got made less and less...

[@sedghammer]

@@c182SkylaneRG Sounds amazing!

[@c182SkylaneRG]

@@sedghammer I should have recorded it. It never happens, anymore. Try to "support" with anything, and you get wolfpacked, immediately. :(

[@sadlerbw9]

Thanks again for these videos. I swear, each day now you have made a video about exactly what I wanted to see next! Speaking of which, how about some LRMs, and long-Range fighting in general. The brawling looks good, but is it possible to play cautious and snipe stuff instead?

[@AstralStar.]

A large portion of the objective damage came from friendly fire by AI mechs :/

[@Artificer1911]

I'll be honest. From my teams, it comes from friendly Player mechs, too. xD

[@PreacherwithoutaPulpit]

I'm in the process of upgrading my rig and should have it done in a couple weeks. As I've stated I really never buy any game at release paying full price as it seems now a days they go on sale for as much as half off within 3 months or so. That being said I do intend to grab this as soon as I've completed my rig upgrade and I think it would be absolutely awesome to play this in co-op with you. I just subbed and may very well come looking for a game or two once I get things all set up...

[@hgbugalou]

Can you override and what happens overheating when OR'd?

[@nssheepster]

My style has always been single large hits, big fan of PPCs, or the ol' Behemoth II from old Mercs. Letting your heat spike with a few big shots, then being forced to wait for reloads, works out well for me in practice, there's not many mechs under Assault class that can shrug off a couple rounds of that kind of thing to the core. Looks like that'll still be my style, unless I find out that I can reprise my old Supernova build with continuous lasers in every slot.

[@MrGrimsmith]

OK, I'm loving your content, can appreciate your approach but taking an Archer over a Catapult as fire support?! Heresy! :P Also you answered a question I raised on another video of yours - medium lasers for optimal heat vs damage numbers. Oh well, looks like I'm brawling again!

[@c182SkylaneRG]

From what I gather from the lore I've been inhaling over the last couple years, Archers actually WERE more common than Catapults. Archers were universally found in all of the Great House militaries in relatively large numbers, and Catapults were mostly found in the Capellan Confederation and Draconis Combine. I'm pretty sure I've heard that Archers and Stalkers were the most common 'mechs of the succession wars battlefields, and there was at least one in every major battle. I get the impression Awesome's were pretty common, too, just based on Natasha Kerensky being more afraid of running into an Awesome than an Atlas because running into an Atlas wasn't likely to happen.

[@MrGrimsmith]

@@c182SkylaneRG Yeah I get that. It's just the inner sphere version of an omni mech vs a dedicated fire support? I'll take the flexibility every time. Also catapults are just great :P

[@DeathRoams1]

Question for you, would you want to have a coolant option. You said yourself it has bad heat management and multiple times in that engagement, having coolant would have saved you from powering down and taking more damage. Also do you think that they should have field repair bays(like MW4 had) but instead fully healing you only heal based on the amount resources available or money restricted.

[@N4ikel]

Hey baradul, did you play mechwarrior living legends ?

[@Olin011]

Cool video, thanks! Does anybody know if different biomes as well as water influence your heat sinking capability in this game?

[@c182SkylaneRG]

So I really wish your Leopard would remain parked just over a ridge, or something, where you could return to it mid-mission to reload your ammo. All of these 'mechs with limited ammo for their main guns typically stayed near some sort of ammo supply so they could be reloaded during combat and keep firing. MW3 allowed you to bring mobile field bases with you, which you could return to to get more ammo if you used up what you were carrying. MW4 had stationary repair bays. MW5, you're flying around in a dropship which has the maintenance capacity to conduct minor repairs and rearmament, so it stands to reason that you should be able to go back for more ammo and then keep fighting...

[@brianlocke6561]

My understanding is the game is set starting in 3015, at the end of the 3rd Succession War, before the 4th Succession War started in 3028. The Gray Death Memory core isn't recovered until 3028. It isn't until after that , that they started to be able to build double heat sinks and they didn't start to come into common use until after the Clan invasion in 3050. Unless you find a Star League cache, you aren't likely to get access to double Heat Sinks until very late in the game. Also the game is only supposed to go up to 3049. The last Major conflict before the Clan invasion is the war of 3039. In the War of 3039 you start to see more recovered Lost tech as well as Kurita gets access to old Star League designs through their deal with Comstar.

[@brianlocke6561]

@@PRiMETECHAU RACs and Streaks larger than Streak SRM2s didn't become available til around 3062 or so. Ultra AC's only came in the AC5 variant and LB-10x was the only LBX available, and then only as Lostech as they were from the Star League era. There was a lot of research being done but it wasn't until the recovery of the Helm data Core that many old Star League era documents started to make sense (most likely most research projects had been sabotaged by Comstar. They tried to suppress the Helm Data Core, but the gray Death Legion spread it around to a lot of people to make sure it got out. the NAIS got ahold of one and was very effective in keeping Comstar from sabotaging it.

[@bledolice]

Thanx for the video Bara! I have 2 questions: Are you playing the demo on maximum settings? I'm in the process of building a new pc and was wondering what rig/configuration do you use (MB, GPU, CPU, RAMs,...)?

[@gorkwobbler]

Can you do an ep with the new cinematic camera controls? Just curious how it works.

[@tristanbackup2536]

From what I figured. Don't deck out with too much heatsinks, waste of tonnage. Gotta find that spot with weapon fire pacing & cooling.

[@cosmicape13]

Do you think a lot of game modes will be avoided when you have to start paying for repairs? Like this base defense contract was just a wave mission. And if you're trying to be strategic and not take a lot of damage so as not to pay to much in upkeep, this would be a bad contract to take, even in late game.

[@Swarm509]

I image you will be forced to do some of them during the story. Also it is possible that these kinds of missions could provide high payouts, with of course a lot of enemy mechs to salvage. It would be also interesting if these missions had a much larger rep bonus, or something, as well.

[@tristanbackup2536]

Why I have Mechs in rotation.

[@nathanmiller3060]

Are you done with the project b series?

[@InfernalGoose]

Damn, heat shutdown is really unforgiving :P Poor, silly old Rifleman. When I played MWO I was really adverse to overriding shutdown, but with a build like this you pretty much have to if you want to stay in the fight. I'm really looking forward to this game now. I just need to dig out my joystick and then go a-stomping.

[@peter10245]

Oh man. Ich hab damals mit 12 glaub ich angefangen mit Mechwarrior 2 ?? auf meinem 486er PC. Ist ewig her. Die Pen and Paper Version hab ich leider nie gespielt. Da war ich noch zu jung für und ich werde im Januar 40 !!!. Das Spiel ist älter als ich. Ist wie ein Sprung zurück in die Jugend mit dem neuen MW5. Super Channel Baradul. Upload in 4k Daumen hoch dafür. Hast du mal die Pen and Paper gespielt ? Siehst noch etwas jünger aus als ich ;-b. Gruß vom Peter. Clan Mechs kommen bestimmt als DLC. Ich will den Madcat mit den zwei LRM 20 huckepack geile Scheiße.

[@Baradul]

Ich bin 35 und spiel auch Pen and paper. Aber die klassischen Battletech Sachen hab ich nicht gespielt. Ich bin mit den Videospielen groß geworden.

[@jeffjensen8]

It seems some people have a hard time distinguishing between career modes and skirmishes, so I figured I'd try to help some. . In a skirmish: Everything is disposable. You can go all out - charge into swarms of enemies without a second thought. After all, you didn't have to earn that 'mech or the lostech installed in it. Career mode: You are using and managing the fruit of your own labor. You won't often feel the urge to charge into enemy lances on your own without a solid plan behind the action. The rare 'mechs and equipment you will find (and hopefully they are very rare) should be cherished and protected. For comparison, it's the same in Total War games - multiplayer skirmish battles often end as Pyrrhic victories which is definitely not something you can sustain in a campaign. In the campaign, you also have to raise and collect taxes to spend on recruiting soldiers and you also need to make the proper, expensive buildings with lengthy build times to recruit more elite units that have high recruitment costs and upkeep costs that YOU have to pay every turn! I hope I've helped distinguish the major differences between the two by now ;-)

[@LiveLNXgaming]

Ganna just put my vote for some King Crab or Catapult gameplay. Also I honestly just worry the AI rushes you a but to much as their main tactic but all and all, I think this will be a ton of fun.

[@deepakmelrick2998]

Remember the IV4 you built with autocannons for your MWO Daily Dose, Bara? I used a rip-off of that for this mission and went in under tonnage for this mission. It was great fun but I did lose both my autocannons 😣

[@balgillow]

The Arcadey-ness for me comes from the enemy having 25 mechs/vehicles and you having 4 yet still winning. If they had 4-8 against your 4, it would be fine. Though of course they would have to be better...

[@VanBurenPhilips]

Pretty much the same since MW2, no?

[@sadlerbw9]

The tank spam does have a very arcade feel, but I’m not necessarily against it. Fighting a swarm of popcorn tanks is a different challenge than a lance of heavy mechs, so I’m OK having both in the game. As long as every fight doesn’t use both mechs and a bunch of vehicles, I think it will be OK. The vehicles do feel a little TOO fragile though.

[@amediocrefan748]

Considering the weapon tier system, the fact that we’re able to do so well with t1’s and those odds is concerning

[@LateNightPoetry]

Thank you for doing 1440p!

[@Baradul]

Cheers!

[@superman9269]

4:25 lol that dead mech carcass

[@naomy1701]

the performance of the Rifleman stock loadout was somewhat foreseeable tho, wouldnt u say so too? afterall almost all Stock loadouts are far from being heat efficient, and most ore concipated to fire one weaponsystem at a time, with cooldown cycles counted in ´to the fire procedure for manouvering etc. however, almost every chassis is capable of being made heatefficient aswell, gladly, which makes almost any mech viable for its specific/specialised role on the battlefield ^^

[@Baradul]

Yeah, I wanted to make a point though and people were requesting Rifleman gameplay :D As I said: my build would include replacing the Large Lasers with Mediums and adding more heat sinks and ammo.

[@naomy1701]

oh yes yes, i tryed to express my agreement, and point out that stock loadouts are expectably bad with heat management ^^

[@TheExard3k]

most stock loadouts are rather heat efficient. There are some exceptions like Orions, Archers or Rifleman-3N but most others have pretty good heat management. Your statement just isn't true.

[@bloodcatru]

Any 'Mech ramming or melee there?

[@perry92964]

im sure when the game is released were going to hear a lot of this game sucks comments....by people who canceled their pre orders and wont get it because they dont want it on epic. i am so looking forward to spending many many hours playing this gamei also noticed your used to mwo ranges, thats not the case in this game theres no bonus range so your wasting heat

[@johnnyhshify]

From MWO PvP to PvE, all enemy mechs are dumbed down. AI not very smart. Difficulty now coming from volume of enemies

[@frshunter]

You realize that you just described every Mechwarrior PC game ever made! Battletech (or Mech Commander)PC games tend to be the more cerebral and truer to the Board games. Both groups serve a purpose and appeal in a different way.

[@CraterLakey]

@@frshunter Agreed. I've not played many Mechwarrior games but I have played Mech Commander 2 and Battletech as well as some MWO. All offer totally different experiences and I'm looking forward to what the campaign brings and how much replayability there will be.

[@amediocrefan748]

Didn’t they promise us that we could play it via the exe after installation? I’m a bit worried as I don’t have internet at the moment due to some difficulties at home.

[@amediocrefan748]

I’m wondering if anyone could test and disconnect their internet and try to play the game to test that. If it’s actually in the full game I’ll gladly buy it and lug my desktop to internet for the download

[@Kodiakian1]

@@amediocrefan748 just tested this out as I was curious of the same thing. (I'm often working in countries with next to no infrastructure to support internet). The answer is NO which really pisses me the fuck off because it was promised. Steam has an easily achievable offline mode.

[@noahbingley8078]

@@Kodiakian1 I know it's not very much consolation (nor is it an excuse for them, that should have been a major feature added) but in a year the game will go onto Steam, so if nothing else in a year we may get it. I'm still pissed but if you want to try to be an optimist...

[@medievalman86]

Would you consider doing a gameplay video of "noncombat things" Ex: do the battles you fight to have any real consequence- as in if your fighting for faction A, does Faction A`s territory expand as you win? what is there to do on the ship, co-op does it seem like a friend could actually "join your ship" walk around your ship with you or is it more of a "jump in at random" type of thing? I guess- the game world- outside of the FPS action... I assume you're not necessarily always fighting "solo" in a solo player, are you afforded any generic control over the ai-bots? (not necessarily full Battletech game control, but something appropriate for fps? I just want something where it feels like I'm really having an effect on the world.

[@bojcio]

This is just the demo version, it does not contain most things you'd like to see. Wait till full release.

[@bandage4uhoney520]

The game looks so fucking awesome!!! Thank you so much for uploading videos about it!!

[@KageRyuu6]

Strictly speaking the 3N has 10, but only 1 HS is outside of the engine. Otherwise heat management appears to be on par with MWO, which isn't a surprise.

[@Baradul]

True. But your comment makes me wonder if you could drop below 10 heat sinks or if it's not viable (as it should be).

[@StealthGuyGaming]

@@Baradul well i know if you uncheck the valid only option in the mechlab you can see all the potential parts you can use, single and double heatsinks are there

[@naomy1701]

strictly speaking, the internal heatsinks of the engines are somewhat selfexplaining, since every mech gets the same amount of heatsinks according to the enginesize, no matter what. only time where that might be important (somewhat) is to see how many extra heatsinks u need to take if ur mech uses a engine below the rating of 250 (i think the 250 engines are the ones with 10 internal heatsinks, but dont nail me down on it, its been some time since i thought about that or looked at it at all * ^^ *)

[@Anoyus]

Its the Robotech lance! lol

[@Reckware]

My main issues with this game from viewing, Like you said the AI & UI which could still be worked on at the moment. But also that it's in the epic store... MWO is on steam as it is, Battletech was a huge success, Why not go for it on Steam? Most likely to get a discount on the Unreal engine but meh. Still looks decent and I'm sure the campaign will be tough too.

[@OniFeez]

You talk about heat management, but I was expecting you to talk about whether planets and environmental conditions factor into it. I mean; you were playing on a snowy map, have you played the same build on a desert map and noticed any differences in heat generation/dissipation? What about moving through water? I think in a previous video you mentioned that it didn't seem to; however you also pointed out that your heat sinks weren't located in the legs (or maybe that wasn't you and was someone else I was watching).

[@bojcio]

Ambient temperature has an effect on heat. This is just the demo version, wait till full release for details.

[@spektor25]

New drinking game. Drink every time Baradul says heat management in this vidio.

[@kierenanaron]

I will main the banshee so hard juste love the design

[@R2700x]

Will definitely rush to get Gauss builds. Powerful weapon + zero heat. You can also headshot enemy mechs with dual gauss builds.

[@Artificer1911]

I like the Slug LBX if you can't slot a gauss. Very low heat, great range and velocity. Also, medium ballistic slots are easier to find on mechs than a lot of larges. That said, PPC/Gauss build is going to earn me a lot of Awesomes in salvage.

[@R2700x]

@@Artificer1911 👍 Can't wait for launch day!!!

[@zekeodima3708]

No melee??

[@Ueberdoziz]

11:36 i think the quickdraw had an ammo explosion you doofus :)

[@gengisdhen3438]

I can't find a pre-order bonus, is there one? Thanks

[@Dnns_GeR]

Actually nearly every mech has access to double heatsinks... just uncheck "show only valid" and bam, you can put in double heatsinks, as long as there is enough space....

[@Dnns_GeR]

@@PRiMETECHAU i have not found any option to change or modify the engine; but according to the actual release being a beta i think there will be more stuff coming. Most important thing for me is, that the actual gameplay is quiet nice; the enemy-ai is not dumb (they flank, prior targets, sometimes retreat), the mechs handle nicely and the sound is good. Seeing it as a tech-demo, its nice... if the game does not get deeper into the topic, it would feel kind of a wasted chance.

[@excessmaterial]

Rather drop only one LL, and use the 5 tons for 3 sinks and 2 tons of ammo tbh.

[@Baradul]

Yeah, that exactly!

[@excessmaterial]

@@Baradul Maybe when you do co-op you can mod one like this and test the difference Bara.

[@Elit3Nick]

Or knock the AC-5s down to AC-2s, then you 4 tons for heatsinks and maybe an extra ton of ammo

[@lickinghorse8469]

no daily dose, feel weird man xD

[@Pat_Scratchers]

its not a demo its closed alpha

[@blackspectre209]

It's a Closed Beta *and* Demo.

[@hamerwolf]

There are a lot of missed graphical opportunities here. When Mech's die they just kind of float to the ground when falling over. These things weigh 10's of tons. They should shake the ground a kick up dust when they fall over. Missiles apparently are propelled by flash lights because they leave no smoke streaks behind. Lasers looked better in MWO Particle effects looked better in MWO Jump Jet's look like shit and by that I mean they look like they couldn't lift off a toy rocket let alone a 40 ton battle mech. Why are there Giant buildings in the middle of the wilderness? Makes no sense. Buildings fall apart in predictable squares which is just a missed opportunity for real dynamic physics based destruction. It all just looks very last gen in a lot of ways. Why isn't my mech's information actually part of the cockpit. Why isn't the HUD actually part of the main windscreen. These aren't graphical nitpicks these are immersion breaking graphical decisions I'm criticizing. I'm as desperate for a new MW single player experience as the next guy but I don't think this is it. What do you guys think.

[@naomy1701]

idk, some of ur points are valid for sure, but others.. the ways building colapse isnt bad, and its not the main focus of what the game trys to deliver, so in that regard i think it got enough attention to be a nice side-effect, and for the particle effects, i think the PPC looks sick, same for Projectiles, tho the missles look realy weak and miss some smoke particles and same for JJs. however Mechs finaly feel stompy again, something MWO left to desire sadly, even Lightmechs feel like theres alot of weight involved (which i think isnt to easy to deliver, else MWO had done so) but overall im still very happy for the game, and keep in mind they can still improve those points with updates, rather than keep ppl waiting another year (its been almost a decade since we got MW5 baited, and then it turned into MWO instead, leaving alot of ppl wanting but not recieving. so im fine with wait a bit for more graphocal finetuning as long as that means i can finaly get my hands on a pretty solid looking basegame) also so far we only saw the Beta, there can be so many things UI and graphic wise that are still getting polished and therefor wasnt included into the Beta

[@SonsOfLorgar]

The Hud is in your neurohelmet

[@juliomontega2868]

It looks rather crude and like a glorified console port. The animations especially look very dated and limited, walking shakes you up and down, the reticule also is affected. Trees falling predictably without any physics involved, fire looks weird, my guess is that smoke effects had too harsh an effect on performance. The pilot portraits are horrible and the textures look very low res.

[@hamerwolf]

@@SonsOfLorgar I hope they explain that. Still what is the point of a cockpit w/ windows if I can't get any real time information from them.

[@hamerwolf]

@@naomy1701 The demo has been released 1 week before the game officially drops. I can almost promise you the changes will be negligible. I would have gladly waited another year for a more polished experience. I appreciate your point of view though. Thanks for the constructive response.

[@jasonsinclair9615]

Sorry Baradul, but I'm gonna wait until after the game releases to watch these. Been a big mech fan since I was a kid playing MW2. Don't want to ruin my surprise. I'll watch your vids later, I promise.

[@Baradul]

Haha, no worries mate! :D

[@Pow3rGaming]

Just because it has that many slots doesn't mean you need to fill them... cut the weapons in half and add more heatsinks... IT'S AN AMAZING MECH... it is legit stupid to have all of those weapons when you can't fire them most the time. wtf? So stupid.

[@timothymarchant9079]

I look back on this Mechwarrior trailer and dream of what might have been. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHu4ZZx3abmKf9U More sim. Less arcade.

[@Darktotaled]

people that think its easy just because you can throw themselves into the enemies lines never played instant action before

[@brianberger5101]

They don't realize you can't do this in the campaign because you will definitely go broke from repairs and losing equipment

[@Darktotaled]

@@brianberger5101 most likely. MW4 Mercs was kinda costly to pay for repairs and replacements

[@oldcodgerplaysgames9610]

The more I see the more I think, meh wait for a sale

[@unnaturalflavors]

!coolshot

[@tarondarcy7195]

Jaja, MWO hilft Dir hier gar nichts, denn MW5 ist das erste Battletech-Spiel, das sich an die Regeln hält

[@ДаниилШвецов-э5ф]

1)Very stupid AI. 2)Graphics looks great.

[@marcusfifield1271]

This is also just a beta look guys not the actual game

[@iamplay797]

yea actual game will probably be worst like the majority of new release these days

[@johnathanera5863]

Like that has EVER made a difference. Lol. No, for the most part, this is what the game will be

[@obygdengaming]

My biggest complaint with the demo is how stupid the AI is. Lights constantly standing still, no torso twisting from any 'Mech, really bad positioning, etc. One lance of 'Mechs wading through dozens of tanks, aircrafts, and MULTIPLE lances of enemy 'Mechs just doesn't seem very "realistic". That is why i see it as more of an arcadey game. B33f summed it up pretty nicely: "This is a game for people who play with a joystick, not someone like me."

[@TrollPiracy]

it out on steAm yet? no? fuck me then

[@Headcrab-ik3lf]

EPIC store = no buy for me.

[@planexshifter]

Yep- I was interested until I saw that- Never buying this now- I refuse to reward greedy behavior

[@Vortyrion]

So, if you go with crappy Mech load you will have more difficult time? This is not changing the fact that if you make just small effort to optimize your lance you will have not only easy time, but your single lance (270 T) will have 100+ kills. (16 Mechs, 11 air, 49 turets, 32 vehicles in my last Raid mission) That is the to arcady and not enough tactical part. There is no challenge for me in those 'Instant Actions' and that makes the game boring. Which is the worst thing that game can be. I really hope that the campaign will not be the same. And the Devs give us a lot of options to customize the game difficulty. There is no other way around if they want to make it interesting for veteran Battletech players like Baradul and the kids that just want to pew pew around with giant Mechs. I really hope that the Piranha didn't go and create this game with the idea to be more casual and easy to attract a bigger player base and more profits.

[@iamplay797]

ya...nah, this game looks no better then MW4 merc which is like 10 years old or something i mean sure its a tiny bit better looking but not even close to the graphics that we should be seeing here its a sub par game by a triple A developer ,which is the norms these days

[@iamplay797]

@@Wolfeisberg sure but there is no immersion if the graphics aren't there its just a shooter game after all so pretty boring real quick this game is not polished enuff its 2019 not 1991 the quality is not there you can play MW4 or MWO and have has much fun it has nothing to offer other then a really minimal quality improvement

[@BlueCorsair1]

That's what I thought until I actually went back and played MW4 and realized that the graphics weren't as great as I remembered.