Heat turns up on John Harbaugh as Zay Flowers voices frustration after Baltimore Ravens' Week 2 loss

[@bjames692]

John was on his way out the door when the Lamar walked into the building

[@SKMYF]

Very true. It's time for him to go now

[@youdontknowmyname6956]

Yea, I'd be more open to him staying if we had a ring or two since then, but everything that has happened since 2019 has been a joke.

[@byronshaw4670]

Lamar saved his job

[@coachmo2.0]

​@youdontknowmyname6956 everything? Lmao how was last season a joke?

[@aaronblaylock2092]

The Ravens are a successful franchise, you fans are spoiled.

[@solomen1234]

The coaches are terrible, the defense cannot cover a tight end, and Harbaugh continues to make stupid decisions. I definitely believe Harbaugh is not the coach to win any Super Bowl. In other words, Ray and Ed are not coming back to help lead the team.

[@Fergieh8er12]

Wasn't ray injured for most of that Superbowl season?

[@sonjalightfoot3728]

I pray Ray Lewis would come and be our Coach Harbaugh is done😮

[@sonjalightfoot3728]

This is ridiculous😮..before we no it we will be 0--4

[@ajellenmoufa8026]

@@Fergieh8er12he said lead not play although he did both just lead more

[@darriuss4574]

@@Fergieh8er12They won Rays last year and nothing after that.

[@rochyns8567]

Reporters at these press conferences need to press the coaching staff on addressing their failures.

[@horacecomegna335]

Rumor has it if they do that then Harbaugh will take away their press passes.

[@jerredthomas5108]

@@horacecomegna335 Your right that how insecure John and EDC and the organization as a whole are. They want cupcake question because they know what they are doing is malpractice.

[@H0USE4100]

They wont because John is sensitive and will have their press passes revoked if they are too critical of him. Our local media are a bunch of bootlicking pussies. Even Moken called them soft

[@DonieCaldwell-x2p]

Thank you,that frustrates Me the most like they can’t asked certain questions

[@DonieCaldwell-x2p]

Asked questions like,why you don’t give Ben Cleveland a chance,since his natural position is guard smh

[@BADDAZZBLACKBIRDZ]

I could argue that the ravens would be 2-0 if they had at least 2 timeouts with 2 minutes left in the last 2 games

[@kyyontwitch]

Underrated comment , highly agreeable & frowned upon

[@JAmCaM212]

The Chiefs game should have been a blowout. Go watch the game again. You guys are not as good as last season. Good luck going 10-7.

[@CtFletcher-eg5zj]

@@JAmCaM212lmfao should have been a blowout but that’s not how it works and the chiefs aren’t that good without whistles good luck at that 9 to 5 today

[@acesinclair4020]

Remove yourself casual, if you watch the chiefs game you’d kno there’s leniency in the calls for the Chiefs as we’ve seen again in the game against the Bengals. And we did pretty good for a bullshxt O line with trash playcalling against defending SB champs. Go back and learn the game bucko

[@JAmCaM212]

@@CtFletcher-eg5zj 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cushrinada]

Ravens should have replaced harbs with McDonald a year ago

[@GGBBigCloudz]

I was saying/hoping/praying on it 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@ronedward3660]

No owner is replacing a coach after taking his team to an AFC Championship.

[@Maleegi]

@@ronedward3660that was McDonald’s defense. Harps always looks confused

[@mr.coachapewtik]

Stop the Cap. McDonald’s defense in the first year was horrible early in the season. All those 10 point leads he had, even that Miami game, all came back to beat the Ravens. Ravens was good last year and he was looked at then as a good defensive coach and genius mind. All these knee jerk reaction makes no sense but that’s what emotionally unstable people do.

[@lordhave4420]

Too late now. No point of talking about spoiled milk

[@keepthatsameenergypodcast]

Harbaugh needs to get the Boot 🥾

[@bankslaw8900]

Like I said, they Ravens had no o line competition. The starting o line should be: Ronnie Jones LG Tyler Ben RG Rosengarten

[@bjames692]

The ravens had 10 days I believe to prepare for this game and this is the product they put on the field. They’re going to waste Lamars opportunity. John obviously can’t coach. Even our special teams which is his specialty looks bad and it’s been that way for a while

[@CatrinaMoore]

What opportunity? To throw sit down passes. How many years has it been since he hit a receiver in stride, outside of a couple remarkabley last year? Maybe you haven't noticed that he hasn't hit a receiver deep in stride for over five years ". Lamar is a proven bum, A REAL MUNSON.

[@dvf0059]

Bot ​@@CatrinaMoore

[@bobjacksob]

2 time mvp, better QBR THAN JOSH ALLEN AND BETTER WINNING PERCENTAGE AND YOUNGER THAN JOE BURROW. YOUR ENVY IS NOTED. ;) ​@@CatrinaMoore

[@jzubs]

well said

[@yourmomsspermdoner]

​@@bobjacksobHe's 0-2 without an elite defense behind him so far.

[@horacecomegna335]

There’s a big difference between tenacity and being stubborn, John Harbaugh is definitely stubborn.

[@zackschelich1293]

Yup you got that right

[@Truthteller01]

He INSISTS on Faelele, Marlon, Tucker. They are LOSING it, literally. There's no SHAME in changing the line.

[@OBPMA]

And incompetent... Objectively incompetent.

[@derrickluv4002]

Big time smh

[@H0USE4100]

Also Greg Roman is 2-0 and JK is balling and not complaining about not getting the ball anymore. Its pretty clear Harbaugh is the problem and always has been

[@knightress5760]

I didn't want to believe Haubough was the problem, but I see things a little different now. JK had complaints, and they were legitimate. I can't believe we are 0 and 2. 😢

[@dewaynehunter4849]

I been telling yall for years that harbaugh was the problem, another thing is eric decosta and harbaugh are too buddy buddy they're not handling business and harbaugh is to worried about getting his friends jobs.

[@frandavis1990]

​@dewaynehunter4849 been saying it since the jump. The players warned us!

[@TheKlown82]

It sure seems that way

[@brophi19]

Could have kept JK SAVED MONEY AND GOTTEN ANOTHER TOP TIER RECEIVER

[@Mrfantastic-hp2en]

😂😂😂 Lamar miss a field goal he gave up 26 points he slowed up on routes to he couldn't block max Crosby as well oh yeah Adams showed us what a real wr looks like

[@Truthteller01]

Lamar is NOT a kicker nor a defensive end. Stay off the weed, you sound stupid.

[@Zeroturnlawncare]

Well said

[@Mrfantastic-hp2en]

@@Zeroturnlawncare facts people all ways wanna blame him when he do his job

[@ravensflock2853]

Preach

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

RAVENS NEED TO DO WHAT THE SEATTLE SEAHAWK DID TO CHANGE THE TEAM FORTUNE. INSTEAD OF FIRING THEIR HC THEY RE-ASSIGNED HIM TO A HEAD OFFICE JOB & HIRE MIKE MCDONALD AS THEIR NEW HC & THE DECISION HAS BORNE FRUIT. RAVENS need an OFFENSIVE-MINDED coach to save their season.

[@leoregulus5842]

I agree, the Ravens need an offensive minded head coach, John's way of coaching is holding the Lamar and the team down!!!

[@madbarber1670]

We had the next head coach....HE'S SEATTLE COACH😂😂😂😂😂😂.......FIRE harbum should've been gone in 2018

[@bobvisionary7264]

Todd Monken is underestimating Lamar’s downfield ball. Our Ravens don’t really have anyone who can stretch the field they better start running Zay vertically and get the rookie Deventoz Walker on the field to stretch the field and give Wallace some more burn at WR I believe he can help and doesn’t require the ball on every play. This is a receiver by committee type team I could be wrong but that’s how I feel and run king Henry more and use him in the pass game. The guard has to go . He’s huge but soft and slow

[@jamesparker6569]

why in Gods name is Walker not on the field? Do we NOT need someone to strecth the defense? I don't get it.

[@RonaldMcGhee]

Nope only 5-10 yard plays and Lamar scrambling for his life. Then run with Henry

[@SlimReaper320]

Walker was hurt i believe

[@bobvisionary7264]

@@SlimReaper320 if Walker can take a step forward in his progress as a rookie I have a gut feeling he can turn into a great receiver and he will definitely be able to help us stretch the field with the deep ball.

[@andrewrout8712]

I've supported Harbs through the years when the rumblings first started about moving on from him. But I'm now ready to concede. As much as I hate saying this because I love the guy, I was wrong. It's time.

[@sonjalightfoot3728]

It's Time You Are Right😅

[@RavensFlock9592]

Defense looked just as bad as the offense. Sure they played well in the first half but played so bad in the second half their first half performance meant nothing. Marlon Humphrey couldn’t cover a bed with a blanket. Devante Adam’s made him look like a pee wee league player in the forth quarter. Pathetic display. As far as John Harbaugh is concerned I have been calling for his job for years now. He can’t get his team prepared to play and can’t mange a game correctly if his life depended on it. Eric Decosta is another problem. He did NOT prepare this team in the off season. He allowed our offensive line to go to crap and did nothing to address it. NOTHING!

[@tonyhouston495]

Time for a change. Should have hired McDonald and let harbs go.

[@insidethesquaredcirclewith9797]

I've been saying that since before MacDonald went to Seattle.....we lost our opportunity to become a dynasty

[@JAmCaM212]

Time for a new QB 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dustyfeller]

Good episode Kevin. Harbaugh isn’t going to be fired, he’s too good at 95% of head coaching which is a 7 days per week job. It’s the game time decision making that he’s terrible at. The answer is so obvious, but it needs to come from EDC/Bisciotti: He needs an assistant who’s a tactician to make the right calls. They won’t fire him, so this is the only answer.

[@therlowfoy9738]

I agree with yoiu on that.

[@jaeduff8231]

Greg Roman is thriving over there in LA along side JK Dobbins. Mike McDonald is thriving over in Seattle. The common denominator for our struggles is John Harbaugh every season.

[@BADDAZZBLACKBIRDZ]

Eventually even Andy Reid has to leave Philly after 4 NFC championship appearances

[@RobertSmith-tu7rl]

yup!!!

[@mercnem6855]

And now hes coaching a destiny. Be careful what you wish for

[@JAmCaM212]

But you guys don't have a Mahomes. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kinstler666]

@@JAmCaM212and the refs

[@Broadkill54]

@@JAmCaM212 they had Mahomes when they went to the AFC championship his first MVP year and they lost. The true piece to the Chiefs organization is Steve Spags. Ever since he’s been there, they have one championships besides one year big red can make any quarterback look good in his system. But Spags is the equalizer.

[@ThaFlockers443]

They need to move Harbaugh to assistant GM or even make up a position for him if they just want to keep him around. I love his energy and a lot of what he brings to the team, but it's time to hand the coaching duties over to somebody else.

[@bobvisionary7264]

Graphics is a good addition and more guest. It can get mundane just listening to one voice a whole broadcast. Continued success

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

HARBS is doing MALPRACTICE to the RAVENS. The RAVENS with JOHN HARBAUGH over the past FIVE season have the NFL RECORD for the MOST losses (11TIMES) going INTO THE 4TH QUARTER with a 10 point lead.

[@JSalonsky]

Yeah I’m sure that has nothing to do with Lamar’s complete inability to throw from behind

[@acesinclair4020]

Are you dumb? Did you not read it say 11 4TH QUARTER LOSSES HEADING INTO IT WITH THE LEAD?? Harbs doesn’t kno how to lead this team. It’s time for a change

[@jerredthomas5108]

@@acesinclair4020 Their hatred for Lamar blinds them from reading comprehension

[@Broadkill54]

@@JSalonsky I’m not sure how you look at the ravens and be like “dang, this is all Lamar’s fault”. That’s hilarious.

[@madbarber1670]

That's a all time record

[@JoeShields-c2s]

After that loss in the playoffs last year to come back next season looking like this I don't even want to watch it anymore

[@sonjalightfoot3728]

I agree

[@jagboy1544]

We are not using Hamilton like last yr either… I don’t even be noticing kyle!

[@mrs.lovely8527]

They used Kyle to stop the run but when they switched to throwing Kyle should have been in the back or covering a WR. We lost that game because of the CB's. The raiders stopped running the ball because our defense wasn't letting them get any yardage. They switched their game plan and beat us in the air. Why didn't we switch our game plan to what they were doing? They knew Marlon was a weak link and constantly passed the ball to the WR he was covering. We were up ten points and lost. Because the CB's let the WR destroy them.

[@Zeroturnlawncare]

Word

[@MrFreshEdition]

Their Defense is a Fraud. The Numbers are inflated due to the 2023 QB strength of Schedule. The Ravens Defensive Secondary was weak and slow but benefitted from the Strength of QB and the Defensive Scheme to Blitz the weaker QB's and yet they lost to Kenny Pickett 2 times, a to Kyle Trask and Gardner Minshew. KC exposed their Slow Defense and they lost some good defensive players: Jadeveon Clowney and Patrick Queen. The Ravens might finish last in the AFC North and you guys just buying into all the hype without taking a Macroanalytical evaluation of the Team.

[@nate55dogg90]

Who's in charge of the challenge calls from the both? Even Lamar was telling him don't challenge that catch. He did it anyway. Those challenges and timeouts was wasted. We needed them at the end of the game to at least give us a shot to win. Lamar has been saving his job since 2018. I hate to say but I think its time to move on from Harbaugh. I'm not sure if we wait until the season is over or now. But if you do it now, you trust Monkton to run this team??

[@boogidwnej179]

Yes cuz I feel like monkem is being pigeon hold by harbs.

[@BigBirdJerm]

It stings even harder seeing the success Mike McDonald is having in Seattle. He should be our coach but EDC is too buddy buddy with Harbaugh

[@HaroldWright-p7i]

You know this is one of the reasons why Harbs needs to go. Why are you signing Defensive Player’s at this time when your Offense of line can’t block a spam call. I’m from B-more but live in Texas and yes I couldn’t wait until my boys came to the Howdy State. I will be at the game Sunday watching with some much of what team will show up. If this team don’t get the W, It’s a done wrap for Harbs and Monken

[@ReaIistik]

I’m getting so sick of blowing leads to bad teams

[@DreTooTuff]

We cant cover any TE!!! Bowers (Rookie) had 9 catches for 98 yrds lol he was 9-9 100% catching. Oline 💩

[@rochyns8567]

They made Bowers look like Gronk!

[@320swoo4]

Unacceptable

[@JAmCaM212]

@@rochyns8567 They made bowers look like Kelce. I guess you forgot the AFC Championship game, Kelce was 11-11.

[@dravens8337]

I guess we forgot kelce did nothing last game. Couldnt handle bowers but kelce did not do anything last week. ​@JAmCaM212

[@JAmCaM212]

@@dravens8337 Bro you 0-2 stop talking. You will be lucky if you make the playoff. Look at your schedule the next 3 games. You will probably be 1-4. Even if you make the playoff you will be playing in the wild card round which means you need to win 4 games to win the Superbowl. Not happening. Lamar has only won 2 playoff games in 7 years, you really expect him to win 4 in a row. 🤣🤣🤣

[@ThriveNation20]

Can we get Ray Lewis as a head coach already. Harbaugh is the thing that has been holding Ray Lewis from this spot

[@sonjalightfoot3728]

I just posted exactly what you said😅

[@Chosenstarseed0255]

That would be a blessing

[@bjames692]

This should be a sign that most of the fans have a better idea of how our offense and defense should be playing and this seems like the coaches do

[@bryanflores3633]

Harbaugh never overrides his coordinators. I like that style but when it needs to be done, you have to do it and he doesn’t.

[@ericallison2nd943]

Good job 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Very good view points 🔥🔥🔥

[@tufgbhw6986]

Im a franchise long raven's fan and harbaugh has to go. I defended him for a long time but after 2022, even 2019, he shouldve been gone. And i like lamar but i see now why roman didnt let lamar call his own plays. All he does is try to throw. He's a good thrower, but not a great a thrower. He needs to be 50/50 at the least. But all he does is try to chuck the ball down the field or scramble and run it himself. We missed 2 superbowl windows because of that ldlocy. In 2019 they gave the game away by benching gus, last year they gave the game away by benching gus and throwing the ball to the point where it was beating a dead horse. Not to mention 2022 when the play called against the bengals was a QB sneak with a backup QB known for fumbling when we had a runningback known for never getting less than 1 yard when 1 yard was all we needed. There's no excuse for last year. And there's no excuse for us being 0-2 And poor justin tucker, they benched him to the point where he regressed in skill and now struggles to make 50 yarders. They need to start putting tucker out there more. I miss when it was "it wasnt pretty but it never is, we got the dub though and that's just us", to now it's "oh but lamar played really well that game, it's this person or that person's fault", idc who's fault it is, fix it. This is why i never wanted a superstar QB, our culture is being eroded and now our club wont listen to actual fans because they can subsist on lamar jersey sales no matter how pissed we get.

[@diogenesarauz387]

Lamar is not at fault on this lose, period. Lamar tried to tell him not to make the first challenge.

[@PrayNStay_Focused]

John Harbbaugh doesn’t have a clue what’s going on in the game not to mention Lamar has been saving this guy‘s job the whole time… Those two timeouts could’ve been really good for us at the end when Lamar was marching down the field if we don’t use those timeouts, we have them later on in the game take your time out make a play get us down to field kicker field goal overtime or score

[@TayMusicNdProduction]

Its crazy how everone dick ride Lamar like he never makes mistakes. He missed Andrews in stride and he constantly struggle to hit WR in strides. Can parley throw accurate screen passes. He good but he deserves a lot of the blame to.

[@Pilts82]

Eric Decosta and John Harbaugh are literally neighbors and friends. Has anyone heard of someone firing thier neighbor? Me neither. Ravens will ride with Harbaugh even into their downfall.

[@intrnlprym84evr]

You're doing real well with your presentation, graphics and such. Just reel it in. This could have been 20m. You'll get better engagement and views with trim content.

[@tyso71]

Johns lack of game management experience and that hes not a play caller, has cost us so many critical losses over the years. Some of the really good teams we have fielded over the years, we should have multiple rings. Besides Mahomes, thats why KC is so great, because they are well coached. Our coaching is truly the definition of insanity!!!!!!!!

[@theonross357]

A reporter shud have asked" Hey John, what was the thought process on the Zay Flowers challenge, when the ball clearly hit the ground??"

[@H0USE4100]

I feel like a terrible season is needed to finally get rid of Harbaugh. Some of us been telling yall for years he sucks and needs to go. Looks like the fanbase is finally starting to see hes this generations Jeff Fisher

[@Bmorebrother]

Derek Henry’s false start and 19 yard punt were the true killers. Those things can’t happen trying to close out a game

[@jeanpaul7223]

They should gave the ball to Henry on 3 and 1

[@Bmorebrother]

@@jeanpaul7223 word

[@godc5073]

For sure, but who made the call to have henry be the pusher on some reinvented tush push, something idk if I've ever seen him or us do instead of just handing him the ball? Who is the alleged ST guru whos units have been average or below for years, something that has rarely been the case in franchise history? Dude has been riding coattails his whole career and now that he has to actually do things to help the team the ugly truth has come out. Sub packages on both sides of the ball look random & forced no matter gamestate, we are one of the few teams allowing reurns longer than the touchback spot would be but still doing it, no correction to tuckers coreographed fg routine (hitch step & head nod before the snap every time) that may not be part of the missses but for sure has influnced the 50yd+ blocks, string of terrible OC hires etc. Cowboys fans called garret the hand clapper but harbaugh has taken that to a whole new level and is actively making the team worse with his decision making - consistent bad situational, timeout/challenge management, 4th down decision making etc

[@JohnSmith-bb8is]

Harbaugh has created a culture of nice guys giving hugs, saying I love you, and dont hurt feelings with real conversations. Wont bring in adequate competition so players dont feel insecure with their position on the team. Humphrey, Mekari, Malik Harrison. Smh but year after year the coach and edc tells these guys there starters in the league. 3rd string on another team lets be honest. 🗑 offensive line..didnt really replace anyone that matched Zeitler and Moses play with a veteran free agent. We're good with the guys we have🙄

[@davidconrades7524]

Completely agree about the OL. Especially getting Rosengarten in a lot more. Also agree about Monken. These stats speak volumes abouy the play calling: Derrick Henry in 1st half - 7 carries for 5 yards Derrick Henry in 2nd half - 11 carries for 79 yards and a TD. Derrick Henry after Ravens go up by 10 points - 1 carry for 5 yards Also, the Raiders rookie TE had 3 more receptions than Andrews and Likely combined. It's like the coaches are determined to prove they can be a downfield passing team when they're not built that way.

[@leroilockley3721]

The whole coaching staff needs to go

[@michaeljohnsonjr.3761]

RAVEN FLOCK it's not the defense it the offense as a whole the head coach ,OC and offensive players has major internal issues . U can tell how the offense is being run that they don't hang out with each other outside of work there is no comradery on offense

[@boogidwnej179]

I don’t hang out with my coworkers… that has zero impact on how I perform my job… Them hanging out has none to do with it.

[@andremears86]

I love zay but i don't think he should be complaining about targets especially when we have another talented 1st rd wr that can barely get 5 targets a game smh now if he wants to voice frustration about the way he's used at times i completely understand

[@mrs.lovely8527]

He is WR1 so I understand his point. I think Zay is going to pull a Hollywood. Zay has said he wants to do deep balls because that's what he did in college. Harbaugh likes turning his WR into running backs.

[@seandent3732]

That other WR has by the far the most inconsistent hands on the team, which led to a turnover that led to points . Lamar keeps giving him chances regardless of his hiccups

[@boogidwnej179]

@@seandent3732Lamar actually shows slot more patience than other QBs… I was surprised Lamar threw to Bateman after that int he caused

[@boogidwnej179]

@@mrs.lovely8527zay is a good wide receiver but I honestly don’t think he’s a Bonafide 1. My issue with more is they keep on relying on this rookie receivers to be the dude from jump instead of getting Lamar a proven guy.

[@devonh7935]

Kevin, I'm at a loss for words too. Mofos got coached every game. He acts more like the GM. He has no answers ever at his press conference. "We fought like hell I'm proud of these men". It's getting old, they need a real kick in the ass. Hopefully this game was that said kick. Get y'all stuff together

[@horacecomegna335]

You could take one look at this ravens team during the preseason games and see that they were not going to be very good this season.

[@nonya6022]

Everyone was glossing over that Green Bay beat down as "just the preseason", no starters played. I don't care. When you get spanked like that there is something missing from your building.

[@sonjalightfoot3728]

Exactly

[@aarongarcia6043]

Most of our starters didn't play in the preseason

[@mhairsto24]

Getting a new headcoach has to be THE major focus going into the off-season (starting right now to be honest). When the RAVENS went from Flacco to Lamar, it was a quick reset, not a rebuild; come to think about it, Lamar saved Harbaugh's job after sneaking us into the playoffs in 2018. If we have to gut the front office in order to move forward, then we just "gotta do what we gotta do." This 2024 season is already in jeopardy, it's SUPERBOWL or bust, not sneaking into the playoffs in WEEK 18 by having 2 other teams lose. It's not even officially FALL yet, and we are already in a MUST WIN game against DALLAS. This loss to VEGAS was monumental, it's bigger than the 2024 season. I'm already looking past this 2024 season and onto a fresh, new era of RAVENS football. If the RAVENS keep Harbaugh for another year, then I will never trust Biscotti's judgment. Harbaugh must go, not the front office, but Coach Harbaugh, IT MUST HAPPEN. If Belichick can get ran out of town, then Harbaugh can too!

[@timottes334]

Greg Roman having success... JK Dobbins & Gus Edwards... having success. Mike McDonald having success... Todd Monken sucking... Derrick Henry doing nothing... John Harbaugh managing games worse than a high school coach... Zack Orr's defense going from historically great to giving up 27 points a game, and being unprepared situationally and losing games... Ravens shitting the bed & pissing in their own Cheerios... while everybody that they let walk are sleeping & eating soundly... Could straighten out, after all, the Ravens do have a track record of making moves in season and getting better, but it appears that all of those that were here when we did such... are gone!!! 0-5 is a real possibility for the Baltimore Ravens...

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

People in Baltimore need to start protesting to get rid of Harbs. THE RAVENS NEED NEXT LEVEL COACHING. HARBS IS WASTING LAMAR PRIME YEARS.

[@GeorgeColeman-im5yf]

Fire john harbaugh!!

[@RobMiller-v6q]

Harbaugh reminds me of Bush junior he has that “ dumb look “ 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheGreatness-gg1jx]

Monken Year 2 should be MUCH better than this. He isn't running much more than a college offense. There's no SYSTEM of attack and picking apart defenses. Zach Orr isn't looking good either, definitely not doing what McDonald was doing but it's his first year sooooo. Harbaugh's challenges were stupid but the underlying coordinator problems are the real issue. He's got some problems on his hands.

[@jau.tumn14]

in defense of Monken the oline is too inconsistent with giving Lamar time for some intermediate-long developing plays, but even with that being said, i do agree he’s also been inconsistent with playcalling

[@bobvisionary7264]

Marlon Humohries needs to focus on football instead of podcasting because his game has deteriorated dramatically. He was getting beat like a drum yesterday and was being son’d all day by their receivers and TE. Coach Zach Orr needs to stop rotating in so many db’s no continuity on the back end and give the sinoussi kid a shot . Williams at safety is not working in my opinion , Jackson’s either . No playmakers at safety there should have been a pick from safety position in these last two games

[@Zeroturnlawncare]

I said 2 years ago he sucks

[@boogidwnej179]

There was a reason saints didn’t re-sign him.

[@boogidwnej179]

@@Zeroturnlawncarelook at the Steelers. They are the elite defense the ravens are supposed to be. They are winning becyz of the defense and in spite of the offense

[@bobvisionary7264]

@@boogidwnej179 true the Steelers defense are playing like what we know the Ravens can play lights out

[@rudolphbrownjr.5792]

Agreed, Williams and Humphrey have never been good. Harbaugh should be moved to an inspirational position, no football strategy in his mind. How could they repeatedly never cover the other teams' most notorious threats? On defense and offense?

[@bobvisionary7264]

Just a humble observation Bateman looked upset as the camera panned to him the series before he got the intercepted because he didn’t possess strong hands in the play, not Lamar’s fault. But Bateman strikes me as selfish. He’s like Stephon Digga without the game and wants it to be all about him. He doesn’t even get separation like that to complain truthfully. He’s a decent WR but not that guy . Bateman needs to realize he wears his feelings on his face and it says I’m not a team player and I’m selfish! Stop crying about touches and get open not a second open. Start really going to work on getting separation and know that it’s not always going to be a 10 catch day

[@boogidwnej179]

I’m gonna say this Bateman can’t catch. I’ve seen him droop to many gimmes. The guys confidence is completely shot. Honestly I think he needs a change of scenery. As soon as he called out the front office and coaching I knew it was over for him… he hasn’t been featured in the offense ever since that incident. You think it’s by coincidence?

[@johnparsons1466]

The Ravens win in spite of Harbaugh, not because of him. He's holding the team back, and its time to move on. Mike Vrabel?

[@sweatyzeusgaming]

I live in Louisville and went to school there so I adopted the Ravens as my team when they drafted Lamar. Basically my whole family are huge Ravens fans now (I was always a huge football junkie and played when I was young but we never had a team in KY). Anyways my mother who knows nothing about football ALWAYS comments how Harbaugh looks apathetic or like he doesn’t care on the sidelines. I never noticed it but I saw him kicking the grass at one point yesterday 😂. He’s not really an X and Os coach and doesn’t really have a system and he isn’t motivating players IMO, he can’t manage games or call challenges correctly, so what DOES HE DO?

[@amsteve93]

They let the best coach leave the building this past off-season. Mike McDonald should've been promoted without a doubt. I'm tired of watching the same crap every week, seeing the camera pan over to Harbaugh with that dumb*** look on his face. Every win seems to be in spite of him.

[@anonymousMarine]

Harbaugh needs to be kicked out the building. Sheer incompetence. 11 years of mediocrity.

[@34gmoney34mud]

Harbaugh and Humphrey both need to find new employers

[@dewaynehunter4849]

Yes! Marlo is washed he was never a all star to me anyway. Yeah he use to punch the ball out after he done got burned for a 50 yard play smh 🤦 harbaugh should've been gone.

[@hhaste]

Stephens looked worse, to me.. or equally as bad, if anything. He always gets caught on, no matter how tight his coverage is. The WR's just go over him and catch it, almost every single time. Our WR's never do that.. practically because we don't have any that are tall enough but also because we never throw the ball to 1 on 1 covered WR's, like every other team does to us.

[@cc0698]

Ed Reed said something about the Ravens defense. It was when he was on the team. He said that most Ravens defensive players do not study their play books. He said how can I depend on another player if that player isn't sure of the play. This team on defense and offense, both look like they do not study their own playbook. The offensive line doesn't know who to block on pass plays, or even know how to block for running plays.

[@320swoo4]

We got the same record as the panthers 😂

[@Mike-td7dc]

Dark times.

[@jayrharris21]

Is everyone forgetting that the last punt to the Raiders was absolutely horrifying? My face looked like Richard Sherman when Russ had that pick years ago. Just pain.

[@corilou11]

Like what happened to Brian Billick, he's losing control of the team.

[@seanehlers7832]

Need a 1000 yard wr

[@JohnDoe-mq3nk]

Was it JH who was a good coach or was it the players with good skills around him that made him look good ? How much better would the Ravens have been with a Andy Reid as couch in the time JH has been here.

[@wesleywingate2921]

Nothing EVER gets better with the way they administrate the games. Penalties, poor clock/ time out management, unbelievable lack of self scouting, predictable play calling etc. No accountability at all....ever. 4 playoff wins since 2012 Biscotti needs to do something.

[@ayersbiz6458]

Zay Flowers might leave the Ravens and John, Eric, and Todd is the blame.

[@sonjalightfoot3728]

Do you blame him!!!😮

[@DreTooTuff]

Roman atm 2-0

[@andremears86]

We good on Gro lol

[@RavensFlock9592]

That’s not going to last long. He is still a bad coach.

[@boogidwnej179]

Let’s provide context. They beat the raiders and Panthers. Panthers are prolly the worse team in football. I still don’t think the raiders are that good, I think ravens are a very bad team right now

[@treyjonesgunouts3295]

...how do we go about Firing a Coach 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@marcemarc6516]

Zay needs to watch himself, a big reason we don’t have a Super Bowl is him being overly emotional

[@mrs.lovely8527]

He was a rookie and all rookies make them kind of mistakes. I blame Harbaugh because he should have had a discussion with him about that before the game.

[@1212rusty]

He was the only td in that game too. Rethink that

[@GArmand715]

No he doesn’t he’s our best WR by far WYM

[@bubblegum7-j7q]

Hes the only fucking person on this team that wants to win right now too

[@justinholt8587]

Sucks we missed our window to replace Harbaugh with McDonald. Seattle isn’t looking too shabby

[@orangecoolius]

A lot of games can come down to 1 play. We had a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter, but that Brandon Stephens PI really sucked for us and gave them hope. I think we just got too comfortable and thought this would be an easy win. Minshew normally garbage, but they had some big plays with Devante. Some big defensive plays, too. Some games just go like that, some pretty flukey stuff happened in that fourth quarter. I'm not blaming John or anybody; Raiders just stepped up and we got shook. Gotta play hard all four quarters no matter who it is. Caught with our pants down.

[@43DW]

Gotta play a ticked off Dallas next week too. Sheeessh

[@MrKuntryboy79]

The person who should have been the HC is now in Seattle. Now we are stuck with the king of mismanagement.

[@timottes334]

When we look back, the inflection point will be letting Mike McDonald go...imho. McDonald took over a good Seattle team, not great, but not as good as the Ravens... & he is 2 - 0...while we are 0-2... and reasonably staring at 0-5!!! McDonald's defensive team... once it came together with the new DC and young players last year... was historically good and disciplined/ prepared/buttoned the fuck up!! That coach NEEDED to be kept, therefore, at almost any cost... his team was that fucking good! How good was he compared to Zack Orr ? Ravens are giving up 26.5 after the first two this year, and can't cover a slant pass, while essentially the same D personnel wise... gave up 13.5 pts a game in the playoffs to end last season!!! Orr's unpreparedness... cost us two timeouts against KC and seven points on a miscommunication - Each the difference in the game - and he let Adams step up at the end of the game... & beat us yesterday when Adams is the one guy he should have, at all hazards, taken away yesterday??? Not saying that Orr won't put a good D on the field, EVENTUALLY, but our defensive team has gone backwards in the extreme in discipline and preparedness (at this point) from what McDonald gave it... To me, right now... Zack Orr is losing us games as much as Harbaugh is... I understand the focus on Harbaugh, but no one is talking about the fact that for the Ravens to have won both of the first two games, they'd have needed 27 points in each game due to the poor defense - from what was a great defense. Harbs... I said at the time... should have been moved to the front office & McDonald named HC... I think you said the same, too, Kevin... That's complacency & that's the worst thing that can hit an organization... 2) Zay should not speak out publicly... PERIOD! 3) Also... you have to remember the Ravens modus operandi when they pay big money to a qb: They make the qb win games without much help because he got the big money. Remember... they did this to Flacco. After he got paid... he got nothing at the pass catching position & started to throw the ball much more than he had before he got the 120 million record contract! It was written in stone statistically that the Ravens won like 75% or more when Flacco threw 30 times and under, but after he got paid, he started throwing over 34, 35 times, maybe more, a game and the Ravens became mediocre for a few years, as a result... LJ8 wanted the money and got it.... and the Ravens took away experienced O Linemen. Essentially putting the O even more on his shoulders... like what was done to Flacco... That's what the Ravens do! When they pay you big... they make you earn it even more!! We in trouble... are going to be 0-5 imho...

[@shanerogers787]

They should of never let Darby walk out the door on defense.

[@slowbro173]

Ravens need a change from the top down

[@PrayNStay_Focused]

Crazy part about it all. It’s only one man responsible for the whole team starting to go against each other and it’s the guy that is so out of touch that he can’t keep this lock room together John Harbaugh and Todd both have been very underwhelmed

[@MichaelSmith-rq2sm]

Second week in a row 6 or 5 minutes to go in the 4th quarter with less than 2 timeouts!

[@BobE316]

I commented to you, Zach and Ryan about 6 weeks ago, that the Ravens would be lucky to win 10 games this year. I said at the time I hope I'm wrong, but right now, it sure looks like I'll be right.

[@ronedward3660]

Maybe Harbs is readybto move on. Some of his game time decisions just scream, "I WANT TO BE FIRED!!"

[@bigdonpaul]

Fire Harbaugh

[@rivtrvlr]

Ravens need to use Derek Henry appropriately, clock management, predictability on the offensive and defensive end. Blitz, change coverages, help Simpson move around, right-side of OL needs adjustment/manpower change.

[@DaGuRoo420]

Something needs to be done with those OL or this will be the story of the season...I was really stumped on why we didn't bring atleast Kevin Zietler back, I believe he even said he would come back for less money and I also believe Ben Cleveland needs to be in at RG

[@addict6504]

Fire HARBAUGH right now! This week! Preferably TODAY! This is only going to get uglier and uglier with each week that passes. This is not my Baltimore Ravens and it’s totally unacceptable. I want to see some accountability and definitely some changes at the top!

[@markpaiste]

How would it be the Head Coaches fault when Eric Decosta blew up the Offensive line when there was little need to do so..the contracts were already in place and simply drafting and working in an early draft pick would of been the wisest move?..

[@offtherocksfishing_officia974]

Five minutes in and I still didn’t see or hear what say flowers said…

[@boogidwnej179]

He basically re-tweeted another fan questioning the gameplan and why flowers wasn’t involved at all in the 2nd half after exploding in the 1st.

[@walt_therealestate_guru6056]

Our best offense was with Roman we would just miss on the deep ball

[@boogidwnej179]

No… Roman is no a good coordinator…

[@marcemarc6516]

There’s times we use a challenge as a timeout. It’s just a strategic thing. Thats not why we lost the game and there’s multiple guys who make that call. The penalties and the O-line need to be addressed and shuffled. I think we need to stay in dime/nickle on defense and forget trying to match heavy run personnel. Malik has been toasted 2 weeks in a row. We also have been really vanilla on defense

[@knightress5760]

Imagine Andy Reid, being Lamar's coach. Hmmm! 😜

[@Block1212]

Nope andy pass first coach, lamar cant throw

[@DreTooTuff]

How they have bout 37 yrds rushing and still win!!!!!!!!??????!!!!

[@underrated5232]

Vegas

[@mrs.lovely8527]

Our CB's couldn't cover their WR's.

[@edwardpricemba4997]

John got to go! Gimmicky ass game plan.

[@hidden-treasures]

The Ravens are playing the way I expected this year. We had a great team last year, but lost too many parts. Running Derek Henry behind a bad offensive line, is a bad idea. I expect Lamar to get sacked quite a bit this year, but hopefully not get too banged up. People will blame Harbaugh, but firing him will make things worse, not better.

[@redskinlavert-yv5bq]

Lamar saved his job

[@fuzzoptic7476]

Let's not forget, special teams is also to blame!! 2 missed field goals and a short punt at the worst possible time gave the raiders excellent field position

[@scanner743]

Mr Kiyanwest funny you said that I need to watch more football, because I was going to suggest the same thing to you since after six years only one playoff win and his football style like Michael Vicks and Randall Cunningham and others produced no Super Bowl appearances

[@cedricjohnson8590]

Think we missed nate out there just to ease some pressure off the other outside corners and we need to get Kyle out the slot keep him deep to stop those long passes. I think the injuries to nate and maulet hurt us in this one

[@ThriveNation20]

These are all facts

[@sonjalightfoot3728]

Yeo

[@sonjalightfoot3728]

Yep