Heated Driveway Installation - FAILURE

[@JeffWybo]

Heated Driveway Installation Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rF6uc32tmbKNeJo

[@teejay622]

Why is the manifold mounted to the outside of the building? That setup is going to suffer monumental heat loss and inefficiency.

[@JeffWybo]

the garage was already poured and the insulated enclosure hasn’t been installed yet :)

[@diegoterraza7232]

You should just get a kid from your block to shovel your snow at this point lol!

[@JeffWybo]

Ahah thankfully I don’t go anywhere lol

[@tubenish]

So this is a scheduling failure and not a technology failure

[@JeffWybo]

Yip

[@sironeil-personalfinancere9367]

In the process of closing on my first home/rental property. Thinking about taking on a project similar to this. Thanks for sharing this!

[@JeffWybo]

Hey awesome ! Did you see the First video ??

[@sironeil-personalfinancere9367]

@@JeffWybo Currently checking it out, just discovered your channel haha

[@JeffWybo]

Hey sweet !! Thanks. You’re come Casey’s channel ???

[@sironeil-personalfinancere9367]

@@JeffWybo yep

[@JeffWybo]

@@sironeil-personalfinancere9367 brilliant. Just subbed you.

[@tinman5322]

What was the failure? The scheduling?

[@JeffWybo]

Yes and I missed the whole winter by the time I got it up and running.

[@tinman5322]

@@JeffWybo Look on the bright side then: delayed success!

[@JeffWybo]

💯! Thank you so much for watching. It works great now …. These negative videos always do better than positive videos on youtube unfortunately lol

[@tinman5322]

@@JeffWybo I guess I can see that...but I was hoping to learn what mistakes to avoid and it seems you didn't make any.

[@JeffWybo]

Get it done through the builder. Don’t piece it together yourself

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Great video Jeff. I hope all is well buddy and that you have a toasty warm driveway this winter!

[@JeffWybo]

Hey thanks so much for tuning in!!!

[@kyl391]

Hey I found this from the first one not sure what part of the country you’re from but here in the Midwest Union plumbers would be chomping at the bit for that job. Hope you get it taken care of soon before this years winter

[@JeffWybo]

I'm closer! Made a part 2 video on the channel recently you can check out! :)

[@HungarianExperiment]

Great video Jeff! MOAR Heated Driveway videos!!! 😂

[@JeffWybo]

Give the people what they want lol.

[@halnywiatr]

You are over-thinking the system specifications. Size the pump for a high volume to keep the grid evenly heated. You want the anti-freeze moving quickly. As far as heater sizing; small engines running continuously are more efficient than large engines running sporadically. If the heater really proves too small, split the system at the manifold into two and run half at a time.

[@JeffWybo]

Hey great advice thank you! Going to get a dual on demand hot water and a boiler, (pottable water will be separated for the home) bring the lines up the the manifold, insulate it by building a box on the outside and hopefully by January melting snow.

[@andrewl.6188]

Waiting on part 3? How's it working?

[@JeffWybo]

Check the heated driveway playlist on this channel. I have a Timelapse.

[@andrewl.6188]

@@JeffWybo Ha, You should've called it Part 3 I completely missed It! Thanks' for getting back to me so quickly. Was watching your 17 unit video, great job on catching the murderer! I have a 6 unit so I'll be checking out your other videos for tips.

[@JeffWybo]

Ah missed opportunity!! Should of called it that! Oh really cool where is the 6 plex??

[@andrewl.6188]

Chicago by O'Hara Airport.

[@vpc7534]

Can you tell us total cost breakdown please

[@JeffWybo]

I’m at like $3500 right now. Boiler and labour upcoming likely $5000 more. Will do follow up video for this January!

[@shamu987]

@@JeffWybo Thats definitely without the concrete, right Jeff?

[@JeffWybo]

@@shamu987 ya good question. So concrete was included with the builder ... let me get those number but that wasn’t out of pocket cost for me. Tomorrow the boiler is being installed!! So stay tuned on this video !!

[@shamu987]

@@JeffWybo I'll. Thank you. Btw, are you a realtor in the London area?

[@JeffWybo]

@@shamu987 when not making videos about heated driveways ... yes I’m a realtor in London :)

[@AlexKubiful]

Its my understanding that you have to regulate the heat to keep it above the atmospheric temp. If the heat isn't constant, just the base layer of snow will "melt" but then the air/wind will cause it freeze again. I am curious to see how this works out. Worst case scenario you've invested in a skating rink!

[@JeffWybo]

Ahahah yup !! Very true. And it has to be on before a snow fall and warm ...

[@aarondishko7927]

Interesting to hear someone with your pull still gets the runaround with contractors. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@JeffWybo]

Nobody is safe....

[@bulutbinali]

Looks great, may I know who designed your driveway heating system?

[@JeffWybo]

Litterally my buddy…. Are you looking to get one ??

[@doggy255]

Your driveway bakes in the summer sun, you're never going to run so much heat that it ruins concrete.

[@CaseyBurnsInvesting]

Exploding driveway.

[@JeffWybo]

Next video

[@threepingsthree]

Did I just waste 8 minutes of my life? TLDR. His driveway isn't finished.

[@JeffWybo]

Thanks for your support.

[@NathanHQ]

Hey mate...just found your channel…so funny how you never know which videos will do best…great vid mate!...keep in touch...Like 39 🙂 happy to support

[@JeffWybo]

Thank you so much !!!

[@HungarianExperiment]

FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[@JeffWybo]

We’ll see!

[@MitPerin]

I'm sure all of us with snow, who hate icy driveways enjoyed this! And wow Sadie is so big in comparison to the original video!

[@JeffWybo]

Sadie is very big now !!!

[@JeffWybo]

Thanks for watching !!

[@ColtonBlumhagen]

1st big mistake is not putting insulation down first. 2nd The manifold should've been ran into your garage you are getting crazy heat loss by having it outside.

[@JeffWybo]

I do have insulation down and insulated enclosure hasn’t been installed yet :)

[@ColtonBlumhagen]

@@JeffWybo A tarp is not insulation. There's specific foam insulation required for installing radiant tubing.

[@JeffWybo]

@@ColtonBlumhagen Yes it had an R-Value it wasn't just a tarp.

[@ShameerRavji]

Egyptian Builders...

[@JeffWybo]

Don't worry we'll salvage it!

[@davecrupel2817]

You mean Gypsy* builders. 😂

[@LeighaLeighton]

Great video!! 😻

[@jonathanlee7355]

I'm confused.. why didn't you just get the electric heating grid?

[@JeffWybo]

Don’t know anyone that uses electric. Common where you are ??

[@jonathanlee7355]

Yes...lay out a grid of filament that heats up. It's not that expensive either, from what I've seen

[@JeffWybo]

@@jonathanlee7355 I guess I just didn’t go that route as it was never presented

[@cherylannwatts1962]

For anyone wanting to save time, the plumber never came to hook up the system so no snow melting.

[@JeffWybo]

Thanks. Optional to tune into my next video about the operations. Spoiler alert. The snow melts.

[@Darthreloy]

50 gallon plastic water tank with lid, circulating pump, smallest boiler available, glycol mix, whats the problem? One warning I want to give you though, its a problem I have seen boiler guys not know about. I set up boilers at water parks, big and small. Your average plumber installer will make this mistake. Water going in and coming out of the boiler has to be regulated down so that the boiler water outlet, is hot, specifically set. You might be thinking, the water will be cold coming into the boiler and as the boiler works, the water will slowly rise, sounds simple enough and that does happen. However, you can completely corrode out a brand new boiler without temperature regulation in one year and people freak over a pile of rusty dirt made from a brand new boiler literally crumbling. If you run cold water just free and clear through a boiler, it keeps the combustion chamber too cold for efficient burn. Even if the gas and air and everything is set right, a cold heat exchanger will drop the chamber temp and cause soot and acidic conditions that eat away a boiler. This doesnt happen much in homes so they dont get the same experience with failure of this magnitude. The water has to be slowed down enough so that its temperature rises to the right temp as it comes out the other side of the boiler, and then the flames will be clean and blue and your boiler will last. That heats the water tub or tank. Flow from there through the melt system is a different thing. I would use a circulation pump for just the boiler to the tank set to tank temperature, and a separate circulation pump for the melt system. That way you can pop the tank lid and maintain water chemistry so easily.

[@JeffWybo]

Great advice thank you!

[@Chris-hr4ly]

This boiler loves cold return water and it’s efficiency goes up the colder the return temperature are. If the return temperature gets above 140 degrees the efficiency drops to into the 80% range, the systems you are referring to can’t have return temperature below 160 degrees or condensation will happen and destroy a boiler.

[@pirasaanthvaratharajan7717]

Why shovel snow when you can be closing deals!! Great video!

[@JeffWybo]

Exactly!!!! I love automation!!! Helps me focus on my goals! Like buying more property for Foundation Capital!

[@mijuajua4820]

What’s does all the views tell you about us? We HATE to shovel that white stuff!😂 I have a long driveway that it is very hard to drive up it even with an AWD vehicle, even with expensive snow tires, when it snows. I have to hurry and either put the melting chips down that sodium chloride stuff but even when it snows a lot and it doesn’t make a difference it is hard to get up my driveway so I was looking into putting some of these warming mats down in some strategic places where my tires get stuck. But I’ve just decided that I’m going to move to a place where I don’t have to do any snow removal at all ha ha Esp. since I am single, grown kids and would rather do other things than home maintenance;) Cute fam! Enjoy, they do grow so quickly!❤️

[@JeffWybo]

Hey thanks so much for watching !! Where are you located?? Yes the alternative would be just to move to Florida! 😂

[@mijuajua4820]

Jeff Wybo - Western PA:)) for now!😏

[@JeffWybo]

You guys getting hit with snow ??

[@babbalmalhi4964]

Make a video how you edit ur videos brothr

[@JeffWybo]

Ha thanks so much! Lots of practice and learned from Graham Stephan.

[@docdrs]

Saw your first video and was wondering what happened as I’m in London as well. I installed the insulation, pex, and manifold in July 2020. Plumbed in the water heater, pumps, controls in October and it has been keeping the driveway clear. Not a lot of good ,clear control info out there but mine is all wifi controlled. I will post a video .

[@JeffWybo]

Made a part 2 on the channel if you want to check it out!

[@patrickg875]

NO FOAM INSULATION???? BAD

[@JeffWybo]

STILL WORKS!!!! GOOD

[@searchgrade4414]

dude..whats happening now..2020 is over and you promised

[@JeffWybo]

Tomorrow ?

[@JeffWybo]

Part 2 up as promised. Put a lot of work into the video if you want to check it out.

[@MinaG88]

More Sadie in your videos !!

[@JeffWybo]

YES! She will be a youtube star I should start her channel for her! hah

[@Buxtonphil]

fyi dont text your contractors on Sundays. we effing hate that

[@JeffWybo]

I bought a contracting business and have a contractor on salary now. He loves that.

[@markmezo]

Not taking the piss Jeff (i feel for ya) but you should have done your homework & done it yourself that way you know its done right, have a read of Christopher Decker`s install on KZbin, he did the research & did the work himself, he's a fellow American & should have written the book on heated driveways, myself i don't need a heated driveway because i emigrated from the UK to Australia 25yrs ago.🌴🌞

[@JeffWybo]

I should of just went to Australia!

[@zurich7633]

You talk too much, get to the point.

[@JeffWybo]

Point.

[@timallison8560]

why not offer the guy double for the hookup?

[@JeffWybo]

No plumber I found wanted the job or felt comfortable knowing how to do it.

[@hall87668]

This video was terrible

[@charliehall7213]

If you want your plumber to show up, ask him how much of a down payment he wants and when he wants to meet and get started with check in hand!0

[@JeffWybo]

Smart tip!

[@BDChupacabra]

$250 for 21k views is actually insanely good lol

[@JeffWybo]

$763 now and $187 for this vid lifetime.

[@limitlessxmarketing4358]

Giveaway!!

[@naveedkhan06]

Loads of crap 😡 misleading thumbnail 👎

[@JeffWybo]

🤷‍♂️

[@naveedkhan06]

@@JeffWybo you didn't complète yet, it's not a failure

[@JeffWybo]

Only took 2 years. Winning.

[@russellintahoe]

You should have used polyiso under the concrete with a reflective layer above it.

[@JeffWybo]

It works well. Maybe next time!

[@JosephNine]

21,869 VIEW'S, VERY INTERESTING, SOME ONE OR SOMETHING TOOK SOME OF THE VIEWS BACK. AS OF MY VIEWING 7/8/2022 YOU HAVE 20,373 VIEWS..... HOW DO YOU UN-VIEW VIEWS ?? DO YOU GET PAID BY VIEW, IF SO, THAT WOULD BE WHY ?

[@JeffWybo]

KZbin does audits every so often and has the final verdict on what is a view and isn’t. Same can happen with subscribers. One day you can just lose 10 subscribers for example if one person just maybe used 10 different accounts. But it’s all random and unknown of their processes on my end. Thank you for watching ! Yes paid by views but not a static calculation.

[@chrismartin4856]

DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE ,IF YOUR LOOKING FOR KNOWLEDGE ON BUILDING A "FUNCTIONING" HEATED DRIVEWAY. BUDDY IS PROBABLY STILL WAITING FOR A PLUMBER 4 YEARS LATER, WOW ,WHAT A DISAPOINTMENT.

[@JeffWybo]

And you’re probably shovelling.

[@CameronsCandorOriginal]

Install it yourself. It's easy

[@JeffWybo]

I did what I could… even solder pipes. Check out the playlist. Thanks for watching 🙏

[@MattNis1]

So get a different plumber

[@JeffWybo]

On it!

[@MattNis1]

@@JeffWybo is it a special boiler or can use a tankless water heater of a proper size?

[@JeffWybo]

@@MattNis1 so we’re getting one that is going to replace my on demand hot water tank and be dual. The good news is that the on demand is a rental and now I’ll own the system for about $3500. So it will do dual... potable water for the house and also a separate line going towards the manifold for the hot water for the driveway. This is planned to be completed in January. So stay tuned for the video. I’m sure if I would of just went through my builder I’d be all done but this way seems to be saving me 10k so far. Thanks for watching! - Jeff

[@MattNis1]

@@JeffWybo I agree. Builders pay less than you would pay and charge you more than you’d pay yourself. It’s strange you mean your hot water heater right now is rented? Tankless water heater and is rented? Who is it rented from?

[@JeffWybo]

They have the contract with the builder when you’re signing all the forms. 😂 4K Energy

[@wwesam1011]

Horrible video. Dude didn’t even mention a single thing of why it’s a failure.

[@JeffWybo]

Actually I did … the failure was I could never get it hooked up. Thanks for watching

[@user-be4zv3mi8f]

Spoiler alert He dosent have a heated driveway

[@JeffWybo]

Spoiler… you didn’t watch the other videos

[@TheDjcarter1966]

Very odd...you don't know how to schedule a plumber...hello when can you come install boiler, oh I don't know whenever I get around to it. Stop call another plumber...hello when can you come install boiler I can schedule your for next Thursday, OK see you then. See how that works...

[@JeffWybo]

😂 - yes but they all avoided this job. They’d rather do easier plumbing jobs. Trust me if that was the case i would of just been able to get it done quicker.

[@user-be4zv3mi8f]

Worst video on you tube

[@JeffWybo]

Like… really the worst or second worst ? I’ve got some other bad ones you can check out.

[@djshibacrypt5848]

Nov 3 2020 didnt get that many views hu wow feel bad for ya bro. What a waste of $$$ and time