[HEATED] "Football players can't be coached" | Rants vs Nuradin Debate

[@rohithraman6488]

Nuradin is right though. I remember when Rants was calling Vini the "Samba Dan James" back in 2021, if you said that about him now it would be outrageous. If we are using Rants' logic that football players can't be coached, then we might as well look at the best young footballers now and say that all of them will be the best players in the world in 10 years

[@flacohernandez4380]

Vinicius is still overrated though

[@RH11584]

One of the best players in the word is overrated​@@flacohernandez4380

[@rohithraman6488]

@@flacohernandez4380 he's clearly improved though. Which further proves Nuradin's point that players can be coached.

[@batofkrypton9765]

​@@flacohernandez4380that's not the point is he's rated or overrated.

[@adamburke3379]

They can be coached to an extent, there is some things in football that can’t be taught but players can certainly improve

[@LedleysLeftKnee1882]

Rants is full of shite anyway he can’t control the narrative so he’s lost

[@rohithraman6488]

90% of Rants debates are basically like PSG playing in the UCL. As soon as Nuradin comes face to face with him in a debate he looks so out of his depth

[@ZMediaNetwork]

Rants is the goat football knowledge through the roof u learn things listening to rants

[@rohithraman6488]

@@ZMediaNetwork You mean the same guy who said Man U would finish above arsenal for the last three years? And I think he also said Pedro was a Spanish Anthony Gordon

[@batofkrypton9765]

​@@ZMediaNetworkthe same Rants that called Vini Jr a Brazilian Dan James few years ago. The same Rants that said Martial would tear it up at Sevilla? I can keep going if you like

[@jacobpayne9523]

@@ZMediaNetworkif u think rants knows what he’s talking about then your crazy

[@skanderkroumi865]

​@@ZMediaNetworkin the summer he said liverpool is finished and the new manager wouldn't change anything look at liverpool now rants is a hypocrite

[@leon-z1u9q]

Rants need to realize it's possible to be confident without having a God complex. If he was that confident as well, he wouldn't be deleting all his Ten Hag related streams so people can't clip up his hypocrisy.

[@YG1890]

Ah so I wasn't the only one who noticed he did that when I was gathering clips for my video 😂

[@deltafay1981]

He's a real piece of work. Utterly grandiose

[@joshuaw9675]

Nuradin is right, but he needs to relax a little bit. All that shouting can’t be good for his blood pressure 🤣

[@easydoggy]

It's his culture...however screaming at the top of your voice is irritating for those people trying to chill and listen to a podcast.

[@joshuaw9675]

@ I respect the passion but still

[@harrisonmonte-carlo8779]

😂😂😂😂

[@bossman5359]

not really if you make it to a bug club like machaster united what other coaching do you need? thats upto you to make the right decision this guys are not toddlers or this aint the academy

[@bossman5359]

@@easydoggybut this actually gets views ..otherwise it would get boring

[@GuesswhereIsMe]

As a Chelsea fan and from what I've seen of Jackson. Attacking players can definitely be coached. Rants actually does make good points whenever he's talking about other teams but when it comes to Man United he loses his mind 😂

[@zetsuyoru662]

Rants has 0% ball knowledge and 100% confidence. A dangerous combo

[@MrAki200]

Very dangerous

[@TheFudbalKlub]

Dunning Kruger effect

[@yusavelli0448]

He has ball knowledge

[@MrIsmo786]

​@@yusavelli0448Not the ball you talking about

[@Amel7325]

Fuking FACTS 😅 GLAD OTHERS SEE It, man thinks Zirkee is a ballerrrrr 😂😂😂

[@Amsn9393]

Rants chat so much crap

[@zikorajoe7093]

That bum rants with the bozo football analysis

[@shamsul364]

Nuradin is 100% right. Rants is wrong

[@bahriboy]

I understand both sides, I'll just say that Garnacho is still super young & so can improve massively. We can't forget that. 20-23 is massive. Of course he needs the right attitude, & also coaching.

[@ldphoenix3]

No he can’t we accept that you learn languages, playing instruments, gymnastics, boxing and pretty much everything at a young age and the older you get the harder it gets. But for some reason people are convinced football is the one thing you can just greatly improve at past 21 it’s ridiculous.

[@antonybroster7032]

​@@ldphoenix3because there's many examples of players improving after 21

[@MohammedAli-dk8hu]

Rants thinks hes always right but nuradin is right here

[@beatingusoon]

Shooting when youre supposed to pass AND then Passing when you're supposed to take a shot.. Those decisions making cannot be coached. You can show man tape in hindsight, and say "see, you should've passed there instead of shooting".. But thats in hindsight. In realtime, in the game, it will always come down to players decision making

[@crazymovierecaps6276]

Those are the things that could actually be coached. What you can't coach is ability, you can't teach a player to dribble like Messi or control the ball like mahrez or play with flair like Zidane. But you can definitely instruct a midfielder not to shoot outside the box or your winger to stay wide and cross the ball instead of cutting in and shooting. Decision making can be improved but not the ability.

[@yassinhani1600]

Anyone will improve if they want it and are willing to work hard

[@anthonyunurhoro1206]

And that Leon just sides with everything rants says 😂

[@stnyyakh6170]

Hes the Biggest bumlick😂😂

[@denty95298]

Football players cant be coached 😂😂, players like jamie vardy and ian wright were always elite level finishers despite not being household names till their mid 20s then?. Rants is clueless

[@SWEEN_PRODUCTIONZ]

Depends on which area, understanding yh but technical ability no

[@ldphoenix3]

Jamie vardy and Ian wright both had more talent then garnacho shows your clueless

[@vexed_v]

@@ldphoenix3The argument isn’t about talent it’s about coaching… Vardy was smoking a fag a day and drinking 3 red bulls in his prime, he obviously has more talent than Garnacho💀

[@L_Kay]

Okay, now see typical rants hater. Firstly are you saying that they weren't? They always was good finishers. Secondly "household name" is just recognition which there are many factors.

[@denty95298]

@ldphoenix3 that's why vardy was in non league in his early 20s lad 👍

[@iwantgoals1566]

I don’t think Nuradeen is entirely wrong. Pep was able to get a lot out of Sterling by simplifying his decision making. He did that by telling him what to do in specific zones of the pitch and he always wanted him attacking the back post. Garnacho is a piss poor decision maker but you get something out of even him if you simplify his game enough.

[@AidanSolomons]

Been told you this Rants guy is funny 😂

[@FredFerrari592]

Saeed doesn’t know ball 😂

[@MaticulousGamer]

Nuradin is correct here

[@LottoSense-h5m]

Rants is right. The problem with Garnacho isn’t just his decision making, it’s just a lack of ability and awareness to operate in the final 3rd. If United want to challenge for titles then he’s not the player. Same with Rashford, although he has more useful traits! For a top side these players are rotation at best!

[@mkdisciple]

You, sir, have been brainwashed by a youtuber.

[@LottoSense-h5m]

@ based on what? He didn’t brainwashed me, I share his views. How do we know that it isn’t you that is brainwashed, so who’s right? Just because we disagree means I’m brainwashed, what’s an arrogant stance. Garnacho scores goals, but his overall play is poor!

[@mkdisciple]

@@LottoSense-h5m rants has a personal agenda with Garnacho and his brother. He says that “he has an opp for life” and “will be doing Las Palmas streams when he leaves Man United”. This is a conflict of interest and thus he is not judging the player on true merit, rather personal interest. Garnacho, a 20 year old with 20+ goals including one in the FA CUP FINAL. He just doesn’t like the fella and nothing he can do will change that.

[@mkdisciple]

@@LottoSense-h5m where’s your rebuttal? Did I make too much sense?

[@LottoSense-h5m]

@ I didn’t see it. I don’t need to rebuttal your point as I’m talking about my views of the player and how I understand football. If what you’re saying is true, then Rants need to resolve that issue with himself as it’s unhealthy to have personal agenda with a player and his family. He does have a lot of wild takes with players like Mbappe and Bellingham, which I disagree with many aspects (but I do agree that they are overrated. Bellingham as good as Zidane? Mbappe better than Henry? Please. But they are still very good players), but with Garnacho he’s practically 100% correct.

[@lwandomadikizela2213]

Ronaldo was very raw when he first joined Manchester United but the talent and ability was there. Even Rants thought Vini Jr was the Samba Dan James when Vini was making wrong moves before Ancelotti came and look at Vini Jr. Certain players can't be coached due to having nothing to their game and Garnacho and Hojlund are those players. Garnacho and Hojlund are trash no amount of coaching can turn them to competent players.

[@danielca3]

Time will tell🫡

[@crazymovierecaps6276]

They can be coached to do the basics right, they might not ever become world class players but at the moment their not even doing the basics well.

[@efancording6363]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You're calling them trash because they're white.

[@kennyalpha22]

Nuradin is right in a way, you can coach a player but that player has to have a certain IQ, that he/she/they/them🤣 is born with. Rants is also right by saying Garnacho aint that guy because he has no football brain. He lacks high level IQ. People say Dembele at PSG is technician but he is still a scrub because he doesnt have football IQ. IQ is the most important thing, either you have it or you don't. If Rashford had IQ and wasnt a technician, he would still be making better decisions on the footba pitch under a proper coach. Modric wasnt hyped up as much when he played for Spurs, even when he joined Madrid, fans/people used to call him avg. player. The reason he is great now is because his IQ. He was a decent technician but his football IQ has brought him so far. *IQ cannot be coached otherwise Pep could go to Stoke City and buy bunch of players from there instead of spending millions on actual technician high IQ players.*

[@crazymovierecaps6276]

Nope your confusing ability and IQ. What you can't coach is ability. If a player doesn't have the ability to control the ball like mahrez, or dribble like Messi or have flair liek Zidane at the end of the day no matter how many training sessions you just can't make them do those things. But Decision making can be influenced, soldiers are brainwashed to follow every command they get and do whatever they're told, same thing could happen in football you could definitely influence a player to behave a certain way in a game.

[@kennyalpha22]

In football decisions are made in split second, it is based on instinct that cannot be coached but you are born eith it. That itself comes under the ambit of football IQ. A playee with high IQ will consistently make right decision like Lamine Yamal makes. That cannot be taught. Either you have it or you dont, otherwise every player coukd be turned into Messi and Neymar.

[@madfox5085]

​@@crazymovierecaps6276 are you mad. Its exactly opposite

[@crazymovierecaps6276]

@@madfox5085 Elaborate..., I've given my opinion and explained why

[@madfox5085]

@@crazymovierecaps6276 if IQ can be coached, then we would have seen many pirlos and iniestas

[@kh7688]

Garnacho has already shown that he's getting it. He played some dangerous balls into the box. Especially for the one where Mount hit with crossbar. He also made a lung busting run to his own box and intercepted a dangerous ball from the Bodo Glimt player. To say that he can't be coached, at just 20 years old is utterly foolish.

[@tmihle6235]

You guys have to understand not everything can be taught to players. You can't teach composure. This goes for every sport. 'people forget man' 😂😂.

[@malou5290]

There is a cap on how much you can improve. citing CR7 and Vini Jr is already a clue. Those are top 1 percent of footballers who already had the talent at a very young age. CR7 was rinsing united players in preseason at 18. Vini for Flamengo was likened to Neymar jr. Garnacho is someone who gets into very dangerous positions through his movement, but the technical ability to execute that final action cannot be improved. The square ball will be improved with coaching. he might be getting 4/5 assist from that but lets not act like Man united play transition ball. we need good problem solvers in tight spaces.

[@Karmatashii]

What a circus. United fans and their ball knowledge.

[@anthonyjones8836]

Saying a player can't be coached is absolutely crazy

[@mawaiskhan1791]

Two different Arguments, both valid, vini is a great example of nuradins point and rashford is a great exmaple of rants and saeeds point, but nuradin acting like its a standard thing, some players are not good enough, some players wont and cant learn, like your rashfords whos game from when he was 19 to now is almost identical so its not linear, oh all yonug players need is just a good coach, if that was the case then why do Barca go into the transfer market, they have the best academy in the world surely they can just 11 academy players where to be, what to do and when to do it

[@ahmarali9790]

Nuradin is more right than Rants.

[@1spursking]

I heard rants and flex are linking up with goldfish for a remix of ole's at the wheel 😂😂😂

[@nizznecta2773]

Rants is actually right about coaching some player are born with better abilities than others so they will need less coaching than others simple as

[@mistert6204]

Its plain dumb to say players cant be coached

[@ManunitedJA]

Does their decision making tells u they being coached?

[@mistert6204]

@ManunitedJA English?

[@MrIncredible3000]

I mostly agree with Rants sometimes but Nuradin is right on this one ngl

[@SevenTimeEuropeanChampions]

The gap in nuradin football opinion is his humanitarianism, always has been and always will, he confuses ethics with football ability.

[@mgchoppathefirst]

CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW SALAH STARTED HIS CAREER? PALYERS CAN BE COACHED PPL

[@dayoofere8513]

Nurudin is expecting Amorim to train Garnacho how to score or pass in front of goal

[@ivanjardel270]

No need to shout to prove your point bruh 😂😂😂😂😂

[@gymxgolf7016]

Rants is telling us sancho and zirkzee are ballers and garnacho and hojlund are trash. Guy is more delusional than Ty

[@englishlit0171]

To Compare the best players to the worst to make a point is mad!

[@sully6191]

To put it simply rants is wrong players can be coached It’s the IQ that cannot be coached for an example, Messi & Neymar IQ when dribbling is superb that’s something they just naturally have to

[@sofyanalsayed5997]

bro Nuradin is so wrong what seprates legends from great players from mid players from bad players is not coatching only , you can jump from bad to mid from coatching but you cant jump from bad to Legend from coatching only ...

[@yassinhani1600]

It’s the same as a skinny guy or fat guy turning into a bodybuilder with hard work and willingness to improve you can get there

[@stickupnobodymove5517]

​@yassinhani1600 no amount of hours or coaching will turn even a good player to Messi levels

[@SeawardMari]

Bro, common sense 👊🏾. The comments show who actually knows ball

[@rohithraman6488]

@@stickupnobodymove5517 I'm not expecting messi levels but when you look at players like rashford, he may not be man utd level, but he's the type of player that, if coached properly, and in the right system that can get the best out of him, can thrive

[@yanigeebro8760]

​@stickupnobodymove5517 you know messi got coached right and mentored by some of the best players ever he had the good given talent but he got coaching matters

[@LedleysLeftKnee1882]

He’s like an angry Koopa Trooper😂

[@abdelghanimezzi7003]

Rants is right , u can never coach instinct and football iq , nuradin just didnt understand him

[@Ingrid-s2i]

God, nuradin calm down, just behave yourself

[@SibtainHaider009]

If they be in the Ronaldo era, they be like bin him……Garna is 20, stop with these propaganda.

[@justwatch-eb1js]

Players can be coached hence why players have coaches. Its that simple.

[@skanderkroumi865]

Rants getting schooled

[@leonleon3267]

nuradin is a heart attack waiting to happen, bro your blood pressure got more zeros than man united debt right now

[@Pertet_trades]

Rants chats soo much crap

[@madfox5085]

If any player can be coached to improve thier technical skills, every player should be number 1. Everyone would have been messi or Ronaldo. Bullshit theory. There are unique players like zidane, iniesta, xavi, pirlo exist because nobody cant teach them to a less technical player. Thats thier individual brilliance. Its not rocket science

[@mabsrahman8135]

Garnacho will prove these clowns wrong

[@HelloKitty-s4r]

Nuradin about to have a heart attack

[@kevinashton709]

Love it 😂😂😂😂

[@bradybuschur5995]

Rants ego needs to be studied by scientists. It shouldn’t be possible to fit that much ego in a head

[@kennyalpha22]

*IQ cannot be coached otherwise Pep could go to Stoke City and buy bunch of players from there instead of spending millions on actual technician high IQ players.*

[@jonnyhill1155]

Rants and saeed where consistantly riding for sancho when he eas dogshit in a utd shirt yet a young player like garnacho they slander its embarrassing

[@plaitup]

Rant knows nothing about football because he doesn’t get everything right 😂 you lot are something else

[@factsguy421]

all the managers that we had he called them early and got it right, he got the the mbappe and jude thing right, he got rashford, antony and mazz positions and soon as amorim came in he played them into those positions

[@jamalhope-williams7071]

Rants has no ball knowledge

[@toasterstrudils]

lol just watch Garnacho score a brace today

[@Gen_P_K]

If he doesn’t I’m coming back to this😂😂😂😂

[@leem195]

😂 shit goal shit performance

[@wisalmahmood9696]

Scored 1 ig😂

[@mimikatz]

😂

[@mohammedguba6929]

Has nura ever balled?

[@EzziiG]

If a player isn't coachable then he won't be a professional footballer, it's the prerequisite of being a professional, football players get coached from a young age, it never stops

[@patman-bp3qg]

It all depends on IQ which is determined by birth. You can teach someone what is wrong or right but decision making is about what move is right or wrong at a particular moment. To decide correct move is what makes difference. You can improve some things but you will eventually hit a ceiling that's your natural limit and keep getting stuck at the same place. Players nuradin mentioned were not empty upstairs like Rashford and Garnacho are.

[@devonhope2165]

Rants is embarrassing saying that a 20 year old is done wth is wrong with this gay give the kid time to learn his trade

[@stratostheplug]

Rants is absolutely right in this situation because a player who doesn't have football iq has a ceiling. It's like rashford. The guy is entering his prime and he ain't improving. You can improve understanding not technical ability. This should be natural. There are things you can work on in the training ground but there are other things that should come natural. Vinicius always had the tech he just improved his final product and Carlo helped him understand where to be

[@factsguy421]

@@stratostheplug bruh u are wasting ur time people are hyped up by his limited ability when we went the same route with Rashford, they choose not to learn

[@lethalchocobo1886]

Please remove this drama queen who's unable to have a calm, normal conversation. He's unbearable. Sick of his hysterical shouting.

[@theskgallery]

Mr Know it all. Both super Toxic. get on e pitch and show us your football skills

[@goalsforgeorge9096]

Garnacho has a very high ceiling and ignorant people look at his body of work so far at a mighty club,in a difficult period and write him off! I wouldn't write off Antony because he is still young and one should only write off a player after 3-5 years of regular opportunities but no improvement! Rants is a hater and would probably have written off Mo Salah based on his Chelsea,Roma and Fiorentina form forgetting his form at Basle!😂

[@edg299]

Fs. Rants shouts are always wrong so now Garnacho gonna be a beast

[@Errickjnr]

We will be waiting

[@FrankyHernandez-y4h]

Saeed and rants are both so cheap , the “ woke “ side of YT.

[@TheOutrageousTake-ki2oi]

The problem with united is that players like garnacho, rashford, antony have too big of egos to improve

[@JD88784]

You say that like you know them personally lol