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@chelarch4161
@chelarch4161 Ай бұрын
People will clown Rory but BY FAR the worst take of the video is Thiago over fabregas🤣🤣🤣🤣
@chelarch4161
@chelarch4161 Ай бұрын
I stand corrected, mane over hazard🤣🤣🤣
@chelarch4161
@chelarch4161 Ай бұрын
No firmino over drogba, it gets worse and worse🤣🤣
@dylanmurg8078
@dylanmurg8078 Ай бұрын
Robertson over Cole
@marko9463
@marko9463 Ай бұрын
@@chelarch4161mane over hazard is not that bad. Dont get me wrong hazard is definitely better but Mane is top 5 best prem wingers of all time
@adamfarrow9949
@adamfarrow9949 Ай бұрын
Fabregas was far from his prime tho at Chelsea. I admit that he was one of the best midfielders in the world at his best but he really wasn't anything special when he was at chelsea
@jimjohn7327
@jimjohn7327 Ай бұрын
We at Chelsea do not claim Rory
@maximumpotential3796
@maximumpotential3796 Ай бұрын
Rory is right on this one.
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 Ай бұрын
@@jimjohn7327 can tell you haven't watched the video
@jimjohn7327
@jimjohn7327 Ай бұрын
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 the likes speak for themselves 😴
@young_raymond47
@young_raymond47 Ай бұрын
@@jimjohn7327 Rory was right???
@Pastas666
@Pastas666 Ай бұрын
@@jimjohn7327 Nah just a repeated joke on this channel Not that original
@iamrobkershaw
@iamrobkershaw Ай бұрын
Not having the best LB from the PL of all time in this team is a disgrace.
@steveallen-q7m
@steveallen-q7m Ай бұрын
Did you watch the video or read the title? Cole under mourinho is far away from being best LB of all time. All time yes Cole is most definitely best but when they add stipulation of Mourinho vs klopp then the answer is different, Rooney you could argue is the best ST the prem has had but if someone said you could only use Rooney from his second stint at Everton he wouldn’t make a top 50 prem strikers
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 Ай бұрын
They chose the best attacking left back.
@McG1NN
@McG1NN Ай бұрын
Rory Jennings shouldn’t be allowed to speak on football. The fact he gets paid to speak on it and it is his job shows that you genuinely can be anything in life folks. Never give on your dreams then I guess 💪
@Mmyytt95
@Mmyytt95 Ай бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 Ай бұрын
@@McG1NN cry more it's embarrassing
@RunningFlan
@RunningFlan Ай бұрын
People like you (and me now by replying) are the reason he's so big, influencer punditry has become all about interactions and stupid opinions increase engagement. Whether we would like to admit it or not, we enjoy being able to call someone else stupid and mock them in comments, but this just puts more money in his bank.
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 Ай бұрын
@@RunningFlan well said people are so clueless
@young_raymond47
@young_raymond47 Ай бұрын
He literally had the better selection here. Obviously he’s biased but Paul had 9 Liverpool players; he was even more biased. The fact that they chose 3 Liverpool players in the back 5 is pure recency bias. I don’t think Rory’s point about conceding 15 goals was given the due respect. Those of us who watched it in real time know how disgustingly solid Chelsea were. I’ve never seen anything like it before or since.
@joet5901
@joet5901 Ай бұрын
Rory not having Van Dijk is mental 💀
@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker
@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker Ай бұрын
Even Cahill has a better legacy than him, overrated defender........
@loganbutler8984
@loganbutler8984 Ай бұрын
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGookerdoes that mean he was a better player?
@jayqoutes3780
@jayqoutes3780 Ай бұрын
​@@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker Rhian Brewster has a better legacy than nkunku does that make him a better player you idiot
@Swan94y
@Swan94y Ай бұрын
Terry is clear
@garethm9523
@garethm9523 Ай бұрын
How did I know Rory's selections before the first player was picked.
@John-sg4gq
@John-sg4gq Ай бұрын
Rory’s a clown, but Robertson over Ashley Cole is mental.
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 Ай бұрын
Robertson is much better going forward.
@limofootball
@limofootball Ай бұрын
​@@ppo9200😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@shasheboy7
@shasheboy7 Ай бұрын
All time assists leader as a defender
@Nightsu
@Nightsu Ай бұрын
“robertson has more assists” you already know the casual fifa fans will say that as the only metric when robertson outside of crossing is mediocre
@thepapadanshow1407
@thepapadanshow1407 Ай бұрын
But we are talking Mourinho era and Cole never even won the league with Mourinho. Mourinho first 2 seasons were his beat and Cole was still at Arsenal.
@thomaswilliam4015
@thomaswilliam4015 Ай бұрын
I'm sorry but this is stupid. Not only because we'll never ever get an unbiased opinion from these guys... but mostly, omitting anything Chelsea players have done outside of Mourinho's era. He was at Chelsea for 3 seasons (first time) opposed to Klopp's 9. "74 appearances for Cole, so how does he get in?" Why not fill it with Liverpool players then? This isn't a Klopp vs Mourinho debate, Imagine debating Pep's Barca vs Pep's City and having De Bruyne over Xavi because Xavi only did 4 seasons with him whereas De Bruyne has 9 or 10?
@rebirthbot2869
@rebirthbot2869 Ай бұрын
Xavi will always top de bruyne. Xavi and Iniesta are the best midfielders ever. I dont think any player from city wil come in that team. Maybe mahrez or a central defender will make that team.
@thomaswilliam4015
@thomaswilliam4015 Ай бұрын
@@rebirthbot2869 completely missed my point…
@benedictharrison2819
@benedictharrison2819 Ай бұрын
@@thomaswilliam4015 he's a bot, critical understanding isn't his strong suit. Agree with you though, 74 appearances of Ashley Cole, arguably top 3 English defenders ever, still beats the 300 Robertson had. Outrageous really
@kayykayy33
@kayykayy33 Ай бұрын
Couldn’t have worded it any better👏🏽💯
@Anon97123
@Anon97123 Ай бұрын
@@Deathmare235 the point’s gone over your head. That may be true, but the whole concept is dumb. If you’re only looking at the time these guys have played under those managers, obviously the Liverpool players are going to come out on top. Because they played like 8 years under him. Whereas with the Chelsea players you’re basically only looking at what they did for 3 of the years they did at Chelsea and ignoring everything else they did. Nothing one player does in 3 years will compare to what another player did in 8 will compare. So it’s a stupid conversation to even have. They should’ve been comparing the players that played under Mourinho and Klopp, but just accounted for everything they did at the clubs. There’s honestly no point making the video if the comparison is set up to only look at a 3 year sample of the Chelsea players and 8 year sample of the Liverpool players.
@BlankityBlank237
@BlankityBlank237 Ай бұрын
Klopp had 9 years at Liverpool? The Longevity argument doesn't make sense in the era comparison when Mourinho had only 3 years in both stints.
@ShabanHanif-fj9bj
@ShabanHanif-fj9bj Ай бұрын
Mourinho side was better
@GreatIvan25
@GreatIvan25 Ай бұрын
Mouriho had four years and all unbeaten at home what do you mean 😂😂😂😂
@GreatIvan25
@GreatIvan25 Ай бұрын
He also came to Epl again and won it
@Neo-oq3rx
@Neo-oq3rx Ай бұрын
Ashley Cole not in the team is absolutely criminal. The only English player who could get in the world 11 year after year who was world class
@footballtemple5299
@footballtemple5299 Ай бұрын
Overall ofc, but he only played 74 under Mourinho ffs
@georgebaker3209
@georgebaker3209 Ай бұрын
Gerrard
@Neo-oq3rx
@Neo-oq3rx Ай бұрын
@@georgebaker3209 nope he couldn’t get in the world 11 year after year with the players that were about. Cole could though
@amanpreetsingh2936
@amanpreetsingh2936 Ай бұрын
I think they agreed he's the better player, it was about less appearances under Jose Mourinho
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 Ай бұрын
Yeah, complete joke not having Cole. Embarrassing
@Lukqru
@Lukqru Ай бұрын
Please don’t be Rory please don’t be Rory please don’t be rory
@Lukqru
@Lukqru Ай бұрын
Ffs
@steve_o734
@steve_o734 Ай бұрын
He's actually one of the most entertaining guy there 😂
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 Ай бұрын
You love this guy don't you... ​@@Lukqru
@Lukqru
@Lukqru Ай бұрын
Actually I finished the video he was pretty good
@lee84
@lee84 Ай бұрын
Said the same thing
@datboidiego9164
@datboidiego9164 Ай бұрын
Andy Robertson over THE Ashley Cole?! Are you mad! I don’t care what era we’re talking about, Ashley Cole gets in this team during any era
@LiamJM10
@LiamJM10 Ай бұрын
Ignoring the incredible biases, the segment is a mess. Klopp managed far longer than Jose and in one continuous spell. Jose didn't. So to resort to things like appearances as a comparison tie breaker seems silly because it's far less likely that players will have played under Jose in both spells, yet players who only played in either spell instantly get dismissed because the appearances aren't comparable to a Klopp player. Liverpool fan trying to dismiss Cech because he didn't win an international tournament has to be a bit.
@m0rdecai_13
@m0rdecai_13 Ай бұрын
I was laughing at the Cech part, absolutely insane take. It's like saying Haaland is a trash player because he's never won anything on the international stage. Ffs Kane is one of the best English players ever and he's not even won a trophy at club level, let alone international level.
@prabingrg4682
@prabingrg4682 Ай бұрын
For Liverpool fans what did Alison won for Brazil national team?
@sentfromsaturn
@sentfromsaturn Ай бұрын
@@prabingrg4682Copa America
@thomaswilliam4015
@thomaswilliam4015 Ай бұрын
There is absolutely nothing fun about this. Rory picked a single Liverpool player and Paul picked 2 Chelsea players. No point having these guys on if the don't have an honest discussion. Carvalho over VVD is so boring. Thaigo in such a list is just stupid. Firmino over Drogba might be the worst take of the video. Mane over Hazard.... NOTHING. FUN. ABOUT. THIS.
@bendodsworth2373
@bendodsworth2373 Ай бұрын
Mane over hazard is ok imo hazard was amazing but so was adel taraabt he just didn't get to play for a top club
@nosherwanali5610
@nosherwanali5610 Ай бұрын
Where's manes poty​@@bendodsworth2373
@rileypearce2597
@rileypearce2597 Ай бұрын
@@bendodsworth2373 one of the worst things ive read in a while mate
@bendodsworth2373
@bendodsworth2373 Ай бұрын
@@rileypearce2597 I know for a fact that's bullshit, because all Riley's can't read
@thecraggsyshow2087
@thecraggsyshow2087 Ай бұрын
@@rileypearce2597hazards overrated
@zinan2959
@zinan2959 Ай бұрын
Ashley cole not being in the team just automatically makes this video invalid
@zinan2959
@zinan2959 Ай бұрын
@@Deathmare235 I want some of the stuff you take if you think Ashley Cole isn’t good enough to be in that team 😂
@mahdiali872
@mahdiali872 Ай бұрын
I mean they rated from the time they played under certain managers. If it was all Time then definitely Ashley Cole over Andy Robertson
@salemalsubaie9515
@salemalsubaie9515 Ай бұрын
@@mahdiali872 Ashley cole has only one aspect to his game Robertson has everything attacking defending
@mattwoods478
@mattwoods478 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@salemalsubaie9515
@thecraggsyshow2087
@thecraggsyshow2087 Ай бұрын
@@zinan2959did you not listen to what they were saying or are you deaf
@Kotarachkov
@Kotarachkov Ай бұрын
Robertson over Ashley Cole is downright assinine and I'm not even a Chelsea fan. It's truly ridiculous
@jayuk83
@jayuk83 Ай бұрын
Did you listen to their arguments? If you google “Ashley Cole Mourinho”, the top result is literally A Cole saying, “I didn’t play well under Mourinho” 😂.
@Kotarachkov
@Kotarachkov Ай бұрын
I did. Still, he was quite literally the best left back in the world at the time, so yeah I do not agree with this one bit ​@@jayuk83
@Forcedmonkey
@Forcedmonkey Ай бұрын
Irrelevant when the guy who made fhat argument then chose Thiago over Fabregas 🤷🏻‍♂️🤯 ​@@jayuk83
@KieranDawson-u6g
@KieranDawson-u6g Ай бұрын
Ashley Cole over his career was a better lb than robbo. But for this particular game Mourinho/Klopp eras Robbo wins.
@Hhammer
@Hhammer Ай бұрын
@@jayuk83 The argument actually was a joke. Joe choosing Trent over Ivanovic because Trent is a better player, but then actually says that even though Cole is a better player, Roberton played more (idiotic argument).
@dylantalbot4052
@dylantalbot4052 Ай бұрын
To not put Ashley Cole in is absolutely criminal
@robbiekop7
@robbiekop7 Ай бұрын
Claude Makelele for me is better shout than Michael Essien as a midfielder
@crookieee
@crookieee Ай бұрын
Th argument was fair..
@vihan3423
@vihan3423 Ай бұрын
It was about specific eras and Robbo for Klopp clears
@fivestarman5130
@fivestarman5130 Ай бұрын
Well given that prime Ashley Cole was a Chelsea player for a single season and one month under Mourinho (13/14 doesn't count because Ashley Cole was years past his best and barely played that season) whereas Robertson played in Klopps Liverpool for 7 seasons, then his exclusion here is absolutely justified
@yoloforlife8678
@yoloforlife8678 Ай бұрын
@@fivestarman5130well said
@0344478
@0344478 Ай бұрын
As a neutral, Rory is correct with his Ivanovich call.
@albieo
@albieo Ай бұрын
Not putting Fabregas and Cole is criminal
@AhmedAhmed-n5v9l
@AhmedAhmed-n5v9l Ай бұрын
No makelele is crazy
@bicks82
@bicks82 Ай бұрын
Was going to say this, Fabinho over Makelele makes zero sense.
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 Ай бұрын
​@@bicks82fabinho was much more well rounded.
@Bunsofsteel09
@Bunsofsteel09 Ай бұрын
The fact Allison scoring a goal not being brought up was insane. Takes his above
@benpriest1418
@benpriest1418 Ай бұрын
I think I speak for both Chelsea and Liverpool fans that Rory and Paul are the two worst people you can keep getting to speak for us.
@anzcnam6680
@anzcnam6680 Ай бұрын
Boss: Why are you late for work Roy: 15 goals, 15 goals conceded
@tomcannon5106
@tomcannon5106 Ай бұрын
Robertson over Cole is outrageous and I don’t even support Chelsea 😂
@SirEnVo
@SirEnVo 25 күн бұрын
Repect to Liverpool but surely none of you are actually agreeing with Robo over Cole? 😂💀
@ninety_ldn
@ninety_ldn Ай бұрын
cant believe im saying it but Rory was right - It was indeed lunacy on our screens putting Robertson over Ashley Cole 😂
@nicodiangelo7051
@nicodiangelo7051 Ай бұрын
Cole played very little under Mourinho, although there’s no doubt he’s clear of Robertson. But in terms of just their time under each manager, unless you’re telling me that Cole is triple the player Robertson is, he dosent get in
@notmyflavva
@notmyflavva Ай бұрын
Everyone knows Cole is a better left back than Robbo - one of the best ever. But the argument is about the era’s, and Cole under Mourinho, as he said himself, was not good. If you didn’t know the names and just heard the stats, you’d be choosing Robbo all day.
@natz8737
@natz8737 Ай бұрын
Why?
@hyrusan
@hyrusan Ай бұрын
Nostalgia goggles. Cole wasn't actually at his peak under Mourinho. We're talking about Robertson in his prime breaking assist records (before Trent one upped him)
@steveallen-q7m
@steveallen-q7m Ай бұрын
How can so many not understand the concept to this? I’ll try and put it this way Rooney you could argue is the ST for an all time prem 11 but if we only used Rooney second stint at Everton only then he is nowhere near being the all time best prem ST
@JamesG89
@JamesG89 Ай бұрын
I hate Rory, but Ivanovic is the most overlooked Premier league player of all time
@Limebradley
@Limebradley Ай бұрын
Na that’s son heun-min
@JamesG89
@JamesG89 Ай бұрын
@@Limebradley that's a really good shout to be fair. When people talk about Ivanovic they just think he was this brute at RB but forget how many goals he scored and not just headers
@aron4795
@aron4795 Ай бұрын
Dembele from Spurs tho
@liam1165
@liam1165 Ай бұрын
It's only been 2 minutes and Rory has already brought up "we only conceded 15 goals all season" 7 times
@jamezsexton5666
@jamezsexton5666 Ай бұрын
And livarpool still managed to get 3 defenders in that defence crazy 😂
@scottyh1238
@scottyh1238 Ай бұрын
crazy that he brought up the least goals conceded record in the history of European football?
@scottyh1238
@scottyh1238 Ай бұрын
@@Deathmare235 Rory is a punish but its pretty much the main basis for the defenders being Chelsea since they did their job better than any team in history, so id say, its pretty relevant. Not to mention Paul just dismissed the point like its irrelevant.
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 Ай бұрын
​@@scottyh1238 mourinho parked two buses in most games,if that team played with a very highline it would have leaked a massive number of goals. Mane,firmino and Salah have scored and created more per game(over multiple seasons)than any other front 3,but only salah got in to this team.
@r4h4al
@r4h4al Ай бұрын
He needs a new argument.
@karlstephen8939
@karlstephen8939 Ай бұрын
The amount of people, Rory included, who have completely misunderstood the brief is equally painful and hilarious.
@yoloforlife8678
@yoloforlife8678 Ай бұрын
Ikr I was just thinking that exact same thought myself
@karlstephen8939
@karlstephen8939 Ай бұрын
@@yoloforlife8678 the overly tribal, emotional reaction gets boring aye 😂
@gordonosullivan8799
@gordonosullivan8799 Ай бұрын
No Ashley Cole 😂, take down this video FFS, EMBARRASSING
@MyTake_editz
@MyTake_editz Ай бұрын
This could either turn out to be a masterclass if opinions, or something so bad IShowSpeed could do better. Most likely gonna be the second one.
@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker
@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker Ай бұрын
Rory is such a tool........
@hyywe240
@hyywe240 Ай бұрын
All chelsea fans are like rory​@@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker
@joinmeng
@joinmeng Ай бұрын
@@hyywe240 nope we don't claim him, if you want real opinions with enough football knowledge come to the Bridge and we'll answer you
@RelaxingSoundsJustForYou
@RelaxingSoundsJustForYou Ай бұрын
Robbo is criminally underrated
@MRCL-190
@MRCL-190 Ай бұрын
Wouldn’t even get a mention in the top 20 LB of all time. Whereas Cole is top 3.
@RelaxingSoundsJustForYou
@RelaxingSoundsJustForYou Ай бұрын
@@MRCL-190 go on, name 20 lb better
@MRCL-190
@MRCL-190 Ай бұрын
@@RelaxingSoundsJustForYou Maldini. Cole. Carlos. Irwin. Lizarazu. Zambrotta. Alaba. Evra. Breitner. Marcelo. Facchetti. Krol. Alba and Abidal were quality too. Only a red and someone under 25 would name Robertson. Recency bias and lack of any decent football knowledge is showing by your comment
@Sinatratrix
@Sinatratrix Ай бұрын
He’s ass
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 Ай бұрын
@@MRCL-190when your in town… beers on me 🍻
@garethkaye1500
@garethkaye1500 Ай бұрын
Andy Robertson's mum wouldn't pick him ahead of Ashley Cole.
@luismartins7130
@luismartins7130 Ай бұрын
I'm a Porto fan and I saw Ricardo Carvalho win the Champions league and the Euros for club and country. Probably the best portuguese defefender of all time and still Van Dijk is a better player. Van Dijk will go down as one of the best defenders of all time
@Limebradley
@Limebradley Ай бұрын
Portugal’s euros win is the worse of all time: actual joke that was tbh
@SD-nq6kg
@SD-nq6kg Ай бұрын
Carvalho was a Bentley , way better then Terry. Won everywhere he went.
@vihan3423
@vihan3423 Ай бұрын
I think people forget how insane Fabinho was in his prime. LFC had lacked a world class DM for years ever since Mascherano left and then Fabinho came in, took his time to adjust and the completely locked tf in to help LFC win the UCL and the PL. In fact Liverpool prolly wouldn't even have lost against City 2-1 had Fabinho started that game but couldn't because of a fitness issue (as far as I can remember). People should also remember that he had to deal with Trent and Robbo bombing forward all the time and single handedly used to kill opposition transitions by sweeping around. He was literally called "The Lighthouse" because of his awareness and game intelligence. The only reason he declined so early is because of the way LFC ran him ragged especially in the 20/21 season where he had to play CB and then suffered a big injury himself after which he was never the same.
@Graziak5
@Graziak5 Ай бұрын
And yet makelele was still better than
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 Ай бұрын
@@Graziak5you ever heard of the Fabinho role? Exactly maka all day.
@raymondwong2159
@raymondwong2159 Ай бұрын
he was amazing for a few years, great at breaking up play and pinging nice balls over the top
@robdatta8767
@robdatta8767 Ай бұрын
There is nothing to debate here. Mourinho over a much shorter period won multiple trophies including 3 Prem titles and Klopp, over nearly a decade, just won 1 league title and 1 Champions League (And let's not forget that during that decade, it took him several transfer windows of poaching Southampton dross like Lambert, Clyne, Lovren, Lallana, etc. to land two gems in Van Dijk and Mane). On that basis alone, this becomes an exercise of which of Klopp's top players (of which there are very few) make it into Mourinho's Chelsea XI. Klopp's notable players are Salah, Alisson, Van Dijk, Mane, TAA, and Robertson (The guy proposing Thiago, Firminho, and Fabinho is clearly 'avin a larf!). Salah walks into most all-time Prem XIs and is a shoo-in. Alisson, great as he is, cannot displace Cech. Van Dijk probably just edges Carvalho, but it really could go either way. Mane goes the same way as Alisson, and just cannot displace Hazard. TAA is a defensive liability that has been proven time and time again, and unfortunately for him, he cannot get into a Mourinho XI as a winger or midfielder. And finally Robertson and Cole is not a contest at all! Starting XI: ----------------------- Cech ----------------------- Azpilicueta --- JT -- Van Dijk --- Cole --------------------- Essien ---------------------- -------- Lampard ------ Fabregas -------- Salah ---------- Drogba --------- Hazard Subs: Alisson, Carvalho, Ivanovic, TAA, Robertson, Henderson, Fabinho, Mane, Costa Reserves: Courtois, Makalele, Wijnaldum, J. Cole, Firminho
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 Ай бұрын
Klopp never bought lovren,lambert or clyne lol Mourinho had billions of oil money to dip into,never got to a ucl final with chelsea(klopp got to 3 of them)and his higest points total was lower than klopps 99 and 97 points. Klopp was robbed of two titles.He was up against pep,mancitys oil money and tge cheating.
@jpwi8718
@jpwi8718 Ай бұрын
Lambert, Clyne, Lovren, Lallana were not signed by Klopp.
@jamesthomas6164
@jamesthomas6164 Ай бұрын
How is the argument who had the most appearances? 😂 Didn't Klopp spend like 4 years more than Jose did at Chelsea? Of course the Liverpool players will have more appearances.
@SholatheAmeobiShoretire
@SholatheAmeobiShoretire Ай бұрын
Cech TAA Van Dijk Terry Cole Essien Makelele Lampard Salah Drogba Hazard This is the correct opinion.
@teddyeastside8051
@teddyeastside8051 Ай бұрын
3 Liverpool defenders against a team that set the defensive record??
@ashwilliams4959
@ashwilliams4959 Ай бұрын
Defending against teams worse than Everton? So maguire and stones, southgates England were our best ever?
@kcirtap00
@kcirtap00 Ай бұрын
Well ine team used to defend on the halfway line, the other ones tactic was to score the first goal and then defend in the own box with 10 men.
@KeyzKieran
@KeyzKieran Ай бұрын
The defenders who let in only 22 goals while playing a high line, while Chelsea parked the bus.
@teddyeastside8051
@teddyeastside8051 Ай бұрын
@@ashwilliams4959 Everton were a Spurs level team back then, how old are you?
@teddyeastside8051
@teddyeastside8051 Ай бұрын
@@kcirtap00so every Chelsea attacker is better than every Liverpool one because they played well even though they defended so much
@SamuelWJackson-mx9vc
@SamuelWJackson-mx9vc Ай бұрын
People clearly don’t understand that this was just based on the mourinho era of Chelsea and not their entire Chelsea career
@BSMAG87
@BSMAG87 Ай бұрын
They say longevity with one breath and forget Carvalho won 3 prem titles as a starting CB (and would have likely won more if it weren't for arguably the best side English football has ever seen with that attack of Tevez, Rooney and CR7)
@rebirthbot2869
@rebirthbot2869 Ай бұрын
He was class but Virgil is in the top 5 defenders of all time with terry.
@Derlino1
@Derlino1 Ай бұрын
Don't forget that Liverpool came second with record breaking points numbers (97 and 92 points). The 97 point season would have won every other year bar two (and one of those Liverpool were the winners), and the 92 point season would have won every season bar seven. Van Dijk was an integral part of that team, a team that in any other era of the Premier League would have dominated, but since they were up against the most dominant team ever in the Premier League, they came short. Man Utd were good, but they were nowhere near as dominant as City are today.
@addygames3139
@addygames3139 Ай бұрын
It's should of been carvalho and Vvd.Terry and Rio the most overrated cbs ever because they English
@jackreynolds975
@jackreynolds975 Ай бұрын
@@rebirthbot2869 same argument for Cole against Robertson then?
@BSMAG87
@BSMAG87 Ай бұрын
@@addygames3139 what are you on about. Terry is the greatest cb the prem has seen. Holds the record for most prem titles as a captain, fewest goals conceded in a season, most prem goals scored by a defender and he achieved all of this with 3 different eras of Chelsea team. And Rio’s also better than VVD tbh
@hawkmanson6136
@hawkmanson6136 Ай бұрын
Carvalho 1x champions league 3x premier league 1 x euros 1x ueafa cup 1x la liga and 15 goal’s conceded lol
@Stiggi71
@Stiggi71 Ай бұрын
@@hawkmanson6136 using that logic ederson is better than cech
@uzairjhd9685
@uzairjhd9685 Ай бұрын
Doesn't matter van dijk is far better
@jpwi8718
@jpwi8718 Ай бұрын
He never won the Champions league under Mourinho at Chelsea.
@jinayvora6240
@jinayvora6240 Ай бұрын
Request to give Rory a blue-coloured Mohammad Salah card just for the laughs🤣🤣🤣
@young_raymond47
@young_raymond47 Ай бұрын
Recency bias: the movie Rory was absolutely right the back 5 is all Chelsea. Van Dijk is close, but that’s the only argument. Paul pretending that the 15 goal argument doesnmt hold weight is ridiculous. And 3 of the back 5 being Liverpool is nonsense.
@inside_theindustry
@inside_theindustry Ай бұрын
I cannot believe Ashley Cole didn’t make this team. The greatest left back in PL history by far . And as a spurs fan I have zero bias. I must referee better next time 🤣 Smithy
@SuperLvdr
@SuperLvdr Ай бұрын
The fun thing is that Drogba and Firmino are a little similar considering how much they are contributing when being not huge volume scorers.
@bilalnpp
@bilalnpp Ай бұрын
Ashley cole>robbo Makelele>fabinho
@flickz5800
@flickz5800 Ай бұрын
@@kcirtap00 Kante never played for Mourinho hah
@kcirtap00
@kcirtap00 Ай бұрын
@@flickz5800 true
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 Ай бұрын
Fabinho was a better allround player than makelele.
@Graziak5
@Graziak5 Ай бұрын
@@ppo9200makelele was better at that job though. That holding midfield position was literally named the makelele position
@Callum-x4x
@Callum-x4x Ай бұрын
“Why should salah not be put in the team” Rory: 15 GOALS CONCEDED
@Do27gg
@Do27gg Ай бұрын
Fans not realising Rory is a character
@kaylumhunt
@kaylumhunt Ай бұрын
Rory is annoying. But he’s not wrong. Not having Ashley Cole in there is embarrassing
@uniquenessplayz293
@uniquenessplayz293 Ай бұрын
the fact that fabinho made the starting xi kills me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@RossCo.H
@RossCo.H Ай бұрын
He is wrong. Carvalho better than van dijk. He's clueless about football
@OllieWaite2608
@OllieWaite2608 Ай бұрын
Robertson over Cole😂😂😂😂
@brandonbungu2316
@brandonbungu2316 Ай бұрын
This was a tough watch
@amazing_sandla
@amazing_sandla Ай бұрын
This thing of measuring full backs by assists and creating chances is crazy
@scottycpt2955
@scottycpt2955 Ай бұрын
Rory will go on forever about how Chelsea conceded the least amount of goals as a testament as to why they're better defenders than Liverpool, without the admission that Mourinho was a much more defensive minded coach than Klopp. Neither Carvahlo or Terry could do what Van Dijk has done under klopp. He's the best centre back of all time and its not a debate
@CFCRyan
@CFCRyan Ай бұрын
No Cole is criminal
@jasonpayne8014
@jasonpayne8014 Ай бұрын
I mean...LB purposes were different in the eras, ludicrous that Cole wasn't picked
@agebeabelaluma5401
@agebeabelaluma5401 Ай бұрын
"You are making a mockery of your own segment" Rory is always so entertaining.
@manyu9
@manyu9 Ай бұрын
If life gives you blues, never be a Rory!
@Sean-wu8qf
@Sean-wu8qf Ай бұрын
This show used to be good, now a desperate attempt for attention
@iceg6149
@iceg6149 Ай бұрын
Did Thiago even play a game 😂
@jackywackydoodah2821
@jackywackydoodah2821 Ай бұрын
My combined XI: Petr Cech Trent Alexander-Arnold John Terry Virgil Van Dijk Ashley Cole Michael Essien Frank Lampard Cesc Fabregas Mohamed Salah Didier Drogba Eden Hazard
@zxcvj984
@zxcvj984 Ай бұрын
How on earth did Makelele not get picked
@piyushburde7960
@piyushburde7960 Ай бұрын
Not having Ashley Cole is the most criminal thing ever done in these segments One of the best LB of all time but can't get picked ahead of Robertson
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 Ай бұрын
They are both the two best left backs since the prem began.Robertson isnot as good defensively,but he was defensively great.Robertson was also much more effective going forward.
@EvangelAppiahDankwaaop
@EvangelAppiahDankwaaop Ай бұрын
Essien is so underrated
@goodday2139
@goodday2139 Ай бұрын
Best defensive record the prem has ever seen and you only get the goalkeeper and one of the four defenders in the combined team lol, bit silly
@vidiveniviciDCLXVI
@vidiveniviciDCLXVI Ай бұрын
Should have been Alisson dude.
@mightymuppetz
@mightymuppetz Ай бұрын
Context is important. They played defensive football in a poor era.
@Graziak5
@Graziak5 Ай бұрын
@@vidiveniviciDCLXVInot a chance
@raymondwong2159
@raymondwong2159 Ай бұрын
@@Graziak5 i think by the time hes finished, Alisson will be considered the better keeper. Id say Cech is still in front of him for now.
@RPCentral7
@RPCentral7 Ай бұрын
Disappointed in Paul not putting in Henderson ffs. THIAGO?!
@RoryJenningsFootball
@RoryJenningsFootball Ай бұрын
Thanks for having me on. Always a joy.
@Bhinder-x1c
@Bhinder-x1c Ай бұрын
Its a shame for audience, not joy.
@TheLukeB95
@TheLukeB95 Ай бұрын
So much waffle
@Redinade
@Redinade Ай бұрын
what a disgrace to my eyes to see you and my ears to hear you tory
@zinan2959
@zinan2959 Ай бұрын
You allowed them to put Fabinho over CESC FABREGAS smh
@keron1274
@keron1274 Ай бұрын
Awful takes as usual
@BlessingNkosi-hf3tz
@BlessingNkosi-hf3tz Ай бұрын
Making an argument about A.Cole not having enough appearances under Mourinho and then giving a should for Tiago in midfield🤦‍♂️
@shem8729
@shem8729 Ай бұрын
I’m literally laughing rn😂😂😂
@Thehazardcfcversion
@Thehazardcfcversion Ай бұрын
Putting Robertson ahead of the Legendary Ashley is wild.
@maximumpotential3796
@maximumpotential3796 Ай бұрын
I agree with Rory on this.
@kevins9066
@kevins9066 Ай бұрын
Alisson/Cech either one. Alisson is the better passer but Cech is better on the air Trent-Vvd-Terry-Cole Essien-Lampard-Fabregas Salah-Drogba-Hazard
@datboidiego9164
@datboidiego9164 Ай бұрын
Mourinho was at Chelsea for 5 years total. Klopp was at Liveprool for 9. Despite this, Mourinho’s Chelsea won more titles in almost half the time. Liverpool should only have 2 players MAX in this team (Salah and VVD). But in no world should this be nearly an even split. ESPECIALLY not when you’re leaving out THE Ashley Cole for Andy Robertson🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@EnlightenedTurtle
@EnlightenedTurtle Ай бұрын
Roman Abramovic 🤜🏻🫳🏻💰🤑
@Young_Brumm15
@Young_Brumm15 Ай бұрын
Combined XI: Cech> Ivanovic> Terry Virgil van Dijk> Carvalho Cole> Robertson Lampard Gerrard Cesc Fabregas Salah Hazard> Mané Drogba> Firmino (Drogba is a massive big game player) Just to preface, I'm not a Liverpool or a Chelsea fan. I'm a West Ham fan (a neutral).
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 Ай бұрын
People in the comments clowning on Rory but this absolute melt Paul Machin picked Fabinho over Fabregas, Mane over Hazard and Firmino over Drogba ffs. Apart from not including Van Dijk Rory was bang on with his XI.
@182Stanny
@182Stanny Ай бұрын
Cech actually only conceded 13 goals as he didnt play the last two games
@DrShakamoto9
@DrShakamoto9 Ай бұрын
I see Rory, I leave
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 Ай бұрын
Yet comment.... Proper virgin
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 Ай бұрын
Somehow he was the most sensible person in this video which goes to show how moronic that Liverpool fan's takes were.
@greasyarchives
@greasyarchives Ай бұрын
joe baited rory with that robo verdict. the anger in the eyes!
@Hhammer
@Hhammer Ай бұрын
Joe's argument about coles 72 matches compared to Andy Robertsons 300 is ridiculous. You choose Trent over Ivanovic because he is a 'better player' but then when it comes to Cole, he ignores the 'better footballer' argument. Cole is the right choice. It's just the hip thing to do now to choose liverpool players. boring
@briancarter-h4p
@briancarter-h4p Ай бұрын
6 Chelsea players to 5 for Liverpool. Guessing maths as well as football isn't your strong point 😉
@jamezsexton5666
@jamezsexton5666 Ай бұрын
@@briancarter-h4pyeah that Chelsea team was obviously much better should be much less liverpool players 😉
@briancarter-h4p
@briancarter-h4p Ай бұрын
@jamezsexton5666 the exact right number of Liverpool players. Only one that shocked me was Robertson over Cole 🤷‍♂️. VVD, Salah and Trent would have walked into that Chelsea team 😉
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 Ай бұрын
@@briancarter-h4pas a Chelsea fan them 3 are the only correct answers.
@briancarter-h4p
@briancarter-h4p Ай бұрын
@gregordrizzlewing7339 those 3 are the guarantees. You can then comfortably have a debate for Fabinho and Mane.
@qditor2591
@qditor2591 Ай бұрын
Liverpool having more defenders than a team that conceded 15 PL goals in a season is ridiculous
@CarefreeCooden
@CarefreeCooden Ай бұрын
One of the most disrespectful XI’s ever… a team that won one title in 9 years versus three in 5 years
@etrur2595
@etrur2595 Ай бұрын
Put up that Chelsea team against the City teams Liverpool went up against and they’d also struggle to win 1 title😂
@CarefreeCooden
@CarefreeCooden Ай бұрын
@@etrur2595 silly comment they beat SAF’s Utd and Arsenal’s invincibles. Not to mention this was an era when the English sides regularly had 2-3 sides in CL semi finals year in year out and Chelsea were dominant.
@jamescain707
@jamescain707 Ай бұрын
Won that with 91 points which klopp has surpassed many times
@CarefreeCooden
@CarefreeCooden Ай бұрын
@@jamescain707 95* get your facts right at least!
@etrur2595
@etrur2595 Ай бұрын
@@CarefreeCooden Liverpool won a CL in the Klopp era, Mourinho era Chelsea didn’t. We can compare PLs all you want but when talking about Liverpool the last trophy you want to compare is the CL🤣
@Br0wn1e91
@Br0wn1e91 Ай бұрын
They've had to go all the way back to Mourninho era to make this segment worth doing 😆😆😆 shocking. should be combined current 11.
@SerPicchu
@SerPicchu Ай бұрын
Rory is too biased for these, I get he has social media attention but there are other Chelsea fan channels that would be so good on here and have never had a look in. There is variation with your other team's fans but Rory seems to be the only one on the books for Chelsea and every time you know exactly what you're gonna get.
@SerPicchu
@SerPicchu Ай бұрын
Keep watching and he gives no reasons for his picks. Just want to see a proper debate.
@renisrael4188
@renisrael4188 Ай бұрын
Robertson over Ashley Cole is LUNACY!
@loganbutler8984
@loganbutler8984 Ай бұрын
Hows he having a go at cech for not winning an international trophy 🤣
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 Ай бұрын
Ikr didn’t know he won the Copa America with Liverpool ffs
@geraldmutti2001
@geraldmutti2001 Ай бұрын
Did he win it with Liverpool that's so dumb and how is he supposed win a trophy with Czech republic 😂😂😂
@jakemyers938
@jakemyers938 Ай бұрын
Neutral fan here- Why does the ginger guy keep saying Era this era that abs whenever Rory says the conceded 15 goals in that season in that era he’s brushing it off ?
@BriannaMoore-h7l
@BriannaMoore-h7l Ай бұрын
The work you put in is obvious!
@mihacebin4341
@mihacebin4341 Ай бұрын
4:41 'We don't go to football to watch clean sheets, we go to see goals' might be my favorite statement in the history of the show
@jacobpayne9523
@jacobpayne9523 Ай бұрын
How is Rory getting stick here? The Liverpool fan was on drugs Bobby over drogba?? Robertson over Cole ?? Thiago over fabregas biggest stinker ever
@ihtishamhussain1785
@ihtishamhussain1785 Ай бұрын
They’re both clowns, but Rory claimed to be unbiased at the start, the other guy didn’t 😂
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 Ай бұрын
Mane was a far better wide forward than hazard but hazard is a better number 10.Both should be in the team. Drogba was a better finisher but firmino was more creative.Flip of a coin,drogba was a better number 9,but firmino is the best false 9. Robertson was much more effective than cole going forward.
@geraldmutti2001
@geraldmutti2001 Ай бұрын
​@@ppo9200bro you can't compare firmino with drogba that's embarrassing
@jacobpayne9523
@jacobpayne9523 Ай бұрын
@@ppo9200 bro watch a different sport football ain’t for you😂😂😂
@GraceFMTV
@GraceFMTV Ай бұрын
Where's Claude Makelele??
@Sinatratrix
@Sinatratrix Ай бұрын
These combined 11s are starting to be pointless. 3 Liverpool defenders when Chelsea had the best defense under that mourinho era. Robertson over cole?????
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 Ай бұрын
They chose the better attacking left back.They played ultra defensive under jose,if they used a high line they would have conceded alot of goals,they really lacked pace. That front 3 of lfc scored and created the most per game,but only salah got picked.
@PeterJamison.
@PeterJamison. Ай бұрын
I remember my first beer
@futurparfum
@futurparfum Ай бұрын
bruh Hazard is the mosst ovverrated player ever, he never came close to Sadio Mane levels. Sadio almost won the ballon dor!!
@Graziak5
@Graziak5 Ай бұрын
Hazard was a far superior player to mane, what are you on about
@futurparfum
@futurparfum Ай бұрын
@Graziak5 his best season hazard finished 8th in ballon dor. Mane finished 2nd and 4th. check all of the other stats too, you'll be dissapointed lmao
@raymondwong2159
@raymondwong2159 Ай бұрын
both are great players...i would pick Mane but its a very close shout
@Graziak5
@Graziak5 Ай бұрын
@@futurparfum what a weird metric to use, ballon d’or rankings. Those are so subjective and political it’s not even worth giving them the time of day. And as for the other stats Hazard - 139 goal involvements in 245 games in premier league, 25 in 61 in champions league Mane - 150 goal involvements in 263 in premier league, 36 in 64 in champions league Not a huge difference there, especially considering the way Liverpool played was with the wingers as the main goal threat and the way Chelsea played was more defensive. Hazard was also player of the season in the premier league, which mane never managed. They were both great players but mane was always salahs sidekick, whereas hazard was the main man in his team and generally considered the best player in the league for a solid period of time
@Graziak5
@Graziak5 Ай бұрын
@@futurparfum also, go watch back some of their goals. Hazard scored goals mane could only dream of scoring
@chaniithegranny
@chaniithegranny Ай бұрын
Gini was so so underrated in the Klopp era, absolutely outstanding at his role doing all the dirty work
@CintiaJigs
@CintiaJigs Ай бұрын
Such a talented creator, seriously!
@alving4
@alving4 Ай бұрын
The moment Paul said" Carlo Cuidicini was the best goalkeeper at that time" is when you know the level of ball knowledge he has 😂😂😂😂😂
@MilkySteve
@MilkySteve Ай бұрын
Let’s say something controversial Rory get those views
@futurparfum
@futurparfum Ай бұрын
Alisson is the best keeper in the world, do you people not look at the stats?! 💀
@SuvamRoy229
@SuvamRoy229 Ай бұрын
Joe just hates Chelsea and shows it every opportunity he gets, it’s criminal to have Robertson over Cole
@athishujmao2654
@athishujmao2654 Ай бұрын
It was Rory vs Paul & Joe
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 Ай бұрын
Robertson was great defensively while being much better than cole going forward.
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 Ай бұрын
@@athishujmao2654yeah the other dude in the light blue had to start chiming in
@DS-dw3pz
@DS-dw3pz Ай бұрын
​​@@ppo9200Robertson isnt TAA level when it comes to attacking and defensively Cole was miles better...CR7 would have broken Robertson's legs so many times by making him do the splits
@B_razzer
@B_razzer Ай бұрын
Nah Rory is pure content 😭
@reecebates1332
@reecebates1332 Ай бұрын
The same way Rory wants the whole Chelsea defence because of conceding 15 goals, he must then have mane, salah and firmino because of their output under klopp, and if he wants to shoehorn in drogba or hazard, then he must accept van dijk and Trent into the defence by the exact same principle
@Jimbobiscuit
@Jimbobiscuit Ай бұрын
Drogba is miles ahead of Firmino, its not even close
@reecebates1332
@reecebates1332 Ай бұрын
@@Jimbobiscuit yeah and so is van dijk over carvalho, so you either have both van dijk and drogba, or you have the whole Liverpool attack and the whole Chelsea defence
@reecebates1332
@reecebates1332 Ай бұрын
@@Jimbobiscuit my point is Rory can’t just pick and choose
@Jimbobiscuit
@Jimbobiscuit Ай бұрын
@@reecebates1332 Oh I see what you're saying, you are correct
@scottyh1238
@scottyh1238 Ай бұрын
"shoehorn in Drogba and Hazard", what are we even talking about here 🤦‍♂
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