Heather X Alejandro: When Villains Fall in Love

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@christophergirardi8145
@christophergirardi8145 11 ай бұрын
"You can't let the bad guy win!" Heather: "You mean I'm the good guy?" Such a powerful moment when you're a kid, watching Heather go from nasty in S1 to tolerable in S3
@juliaboskamp9666
@juliaboskamp9666 11 ай бұрын
She has alos season 2 and 3 to get caracter developed (but still kinda salty that they forgot that Lashana and Heather were getting friends with eachother)
@brandonscott5544
@brandonscott5544 11 ай бұрын
BOTH HEATHER AND ALEJANDRO SERIOUSLY TOXIC. 🔥🔥🔥🌎🔥🔥🔥😈🔥🔥🔥😈🔥🔥🔥😈
@josheydubs
@josheydubs 11 ай бұрын
Heather had one of the best redemption arcs in cartoon history
@NumberoneAleheatherShipper
@NumberoneAleheatherShipper 11 ай бұрын
I read that as cancer developed 💀
@maddiemcnugget1076
@maddiemcnugget1076 10 ай бұрын
@@juliaboskamp9666true!! I feel like they forget a lot of developments they start. Also leshawna deserved much more.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 11 ай бұрын
These two were the villain couple of my childhood. I especially love that Alejandro isn't a copy of Heather and, in some cases, is better (in terms of effectiveness) than her.
@user-pi3hd2bt3f
@user-pi3hd2bt3f 11 ай бұрын
When he said in the first episode that she's a saint compared to him, he wasn't kidding. I love that scene though He wasn't even smiling, you could tell he meant business
@toadlord8594
@toadlord8594 11 ай бұрын
Other fun Villain couples would include: Draken x Shego Dr. Girlfriend and The Monarch.
@evangelinexsq
@evangelinexsq 10 ай бұрын
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f honestly sometimes hes the devil compared to her and sometimes shes a lot worse it depends on the situation
@johanngarcia1946
@johanngarcia1946 11 ай бұрын
Alejandro was definitely one of the highlights of World Tour as Gwen, Duncan and Courtney were falling from grace. Heather still remained entertaining and Alejandro was an absolute hottie.
@BearSmoothie
@BearSmoothie 11 ай бұрын
Dude that entire love triangle ruined the show
@user9180
@user9180 11 ай бұрын
Exactly
@StaciROTIbi
@StaciROTIbi 11 ай бұрын
Topher and Chase are hotter than Alejandro
@johanngarcia1946
@johanngarcia1946 11 ай бұрын
@@StaciROTIbi I couldn't agree more. Like, despite Topher being a Chris wannabe I still thought he was charming and handsome. Chase is also quite the looker. There are so many Total Drama characters you'd just love.
@johanngarcia1946
@johanngarcia1946 11 ай бұрын
@@BearSmoothie It will still haunts me as how Trent was done dirty. Like, I would've liked to see more from Trent other than being the nice guitar player guy to Gwen's goth rebel.
@HMZeroTwo
@HMZeroTwo 11 ай бұрын
Crazy how Heather, a girl we rooted against due to being such a jerk to characters like Gwen, ended better off than anybody else when it came to relationships
@vampybyte7812
@vampybyte7812 11 ай бұрын
Yeah funny how that works, They don't even really touch on Heather and Alejandro after all stars so far as we know their still together. Which good I rather believe that then have them pull another love triangle out their ass or dumb break up plot just for the sake of drama. I get its the shows name but at least be creative ffs-
@Nikki-lh1tu
@Nikki-lh1tu 11 ай бұрын
Who's we? 🤭 lol. I've always rooted for Heather even when she was a jerk to Gwen.
@ItsEricaBeyetch
@ItsEricaBeyetch 11 ай бұрын
Atleast Heather knew what she was doing with Trent was wrong. Gwen kept insisting she did nothing wrong to Courtney.
@vampybyte7812
@vampybyte7812 11 ай бұрын
@@ItsEricaBeyetch It almost feels they tried to retcon the fact she kissed him when Courtney and him were very much STILL together. Ngl this show likes to gaslight us lol
@Grizzexploder
@Grizzexploder 10 ай бұрын
​@@vampybyte7812Only rationalisation is the inbtwn the Action finale & Celebrity Manhunt special where they got estranged after the Raccoon thing, but it still wasn't a cool move from Gwen
@the_godbodor7026
@the_godbodor7026 11 ай бұрын
“A road to a girl’s heart is a long one, but chocolates are shortcuts” is such a hilariously good line
@discoshark7767
@discoshark7767 11 ай бұрын
As a woman I can 100% confirm
@jamesjoe1690
@jamesjoe1690 11 ай бұрын
Alejandro had the best quotes 😂
@luigiboi4244
@luigiboi4244 11 ай бұрын
I mean, it would work on me. LEGO also works.
@nekochan3231
@nekochan3231 11 ай бұрын
Would work for me, but not my friend. She absolutely hates chocolate 😂
@KobraKid12
@KobraKid12 11 ай бұрын
absolutely
@jackpearce367
@jackpearce367 11 ай бұрын
Heather is the only gaslight gatekeep girl boss allowed. She works because we aren’t supposed to sympathize with her unlike some people. EDIT here’s a crazy idea why don’t you people actually HEAR OUT why I have the opinions I do. I hate actual reasons for disliking Amy and Donna it’s not because I hate women because I don’t
@toadlord8594
@toadlord8594 11 ай бұрын
Unlike who? Could you name some specific examples if you could?
@phantom-ri2tg
@phantom-ri2tg 11 ай бұрын
That trope did not start out where they were meant to be sympathetic and she is not the only example of it. What sets her apart is that she was also a competent competitor where as most were just some rival to beat.
@jackpearce367
@jackpearce367 11 ай бұрын
@@toadlord8594 2 big ones for me are Amy Farrah Fowler from the Big Bang theory and Donna Pinciotti from that 70s show
@toadlord8594
@toadlord8594 11 ай бұрын
@@phantom-ri2tgWhat’s wrong with them being a rival towards the nice girl? That’s still some good Foe Yay.
@phantom-ri2tg
@phantom-ri2tg 11 ай бұрын
@@toadlord8594 Because it means their purpose is to be defeated by them. It is a character archtype built to fail so the protagonist can climb over them. where as Heather again was an actual competitor. not just some wall to be defeated.
@BrandonJames2016
@BrandonJames2016 11 ай бұрын
The best villains in the total drama series and the fact they ended up in a romantic relationship was so shocking but honestly they work so well together. I’m still so mad she never got her prize money in world tour.
@gutsmasterson2488
@gutsmasterson2488 11 ай бұрын
Ezekiel at least still had the case and tried giving it to the Jersey Shore caricature. Not sure if the money is still valid though.
@dark-winged-angel136
@dark-winged-angel136 11 ай бұрын
​@@gutsmasterson2488the money disentigrated,Zeke gave Snookie a fake diamond instead
@gutsmasterson2488
@gutsmasterson2488 11 ай бұрын
@@dark-winged-angel136 I forgot about that because I didn’t want to remember too much of revenge of the island. Thank you for reminding me.
@little_cody13
@little_cody13 11 ай бұрын
she probably wouldnt have been on all stars if she got the money
@BrandonJames2016
@BrandonJames2016 11 ай бұрын
@@little_cody13 I mean Owen came back to compete after winning same for Duncan. I’m sure it would be the same for Heather her ego would want to win more money.
@philly_sports1558
@philly_sports1558 11 ай бұрын
“This is How We Will End It” is an absolute banger. That’s a fact.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 11 ай бұрын
I honestly like the Aleheather parts of "I'm gonna make it" better.
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 11 ай бұрын
CORRECT
@stevenquartzcutiepiedemayo8272
@stevenquartzcutiepiedemayo8272 11 ай бұрын
*COUGH COUGH* Condor *COUGH COUGH*
@dear_totheheart
@dear_totheheart 11 ай бұрын
It genuinely is such a musical ballad, I adore it as a song and them as a couple
@chorizord6974
@chorizord6974 10 ай бұрын
It is a banger but We built Gwen's face is THE best song 👍
@fandomonium3789
@fandomonium3789 11 ай бұрын
Words cannot describe how happy I was when Heather won World Tour. She was a favorite in Island because I watch other reality shows, and could see (at least early on) that she was a good strategist and was playing well. She let superiority complex get in her way, and was taking unnecessary risks to tinkle in everybody's cornflakes, but I still saw her for the competent player that she was. But watching her go from the most hated player to the "good guy by default" and having everyone cheering for her was so satisfying. But either way you slice it, World Tour is the only season in which no matter how you slice it, the winner is a villain no matter what. Heather was merely the lesser of two evils.
@jams1070
@jams1070 11 ай бұрын
Literally love Heather so much 😭😭
@Nikki-lh1tu
@Nikki-lh1tu 11 ай бұрын
​@@jams1070Same honestly ❤
@diegob7756
@diegob7756 10 ай бұрын
@@jams1070one of the best characters fr
@chsovi7164
@chsovi7164 11 ай бұрын
I think Heather sees through him immediately because when you manipulate people constantly, you tend to know exactly what to look for. Also manipulation that involves building goodwill simply doesn't work on habitual backstabbers
@TheCommenterDragon
@TheCommenterDragon 11 ай бұрын
Heather and Alejandro are one of my all time favorite TD couples! Even if they are antagonists though nowadays it seems like antagonists finding love interest's in cartoons is a rare thing, But even villains need to find love too.
@rimzaaah5892
@rimzaaah5892 11 ай бұрын
I wished we saw them team up more, they'd be an unstoppable force
@cloudykid7278
@cloudykid7278 11 ай бұрын
I like how Sarcastic Chorus has taken a break from the shipping drama of other serieses he's covered to focus on the shipping drama of TDI
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 11 ай бұрын
He usually does this.
@hearts4uzi
@hearts4uzi 11 ай бұрын
this is normal for him lol
@Shapoufiiie
@Shapoufiiie 11 ай бұрын
Yes. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss. *evilly rubbing two hands together.
@KavinCatastrophe
@KavinCatastrophe 11 ай бұрын
Heather and Alejandro was My Ship back in the day. I really wish we had a season of them just constantly working together. They would have been OP in the Riduculous Race.
@razorflossrazor2937
@razorflossrazor2937 11 ай бұрын
That would have been a hilarious season. I really want a reunion episode with them together and are sickeningly sweet with each other and evil as hell to everyone else.
@cynicalperson161
@cynicalperson161 11 ай бұрын
They could've kept Noah and Owen as well but Alejandro and Heather needed to be there.
@blackfox4138
@blackfox4138 11 ай бұрын
They kinda remind me of Shirogane and Kaguya. Heather can think on her feet and is great at improvising. Meanwhile, Alejandro devises long term plans and accounts for various scenarios. Which is probably why I loved their romance so much.
@arabelleproductions3682
@arabelleproductions3682 11 ай бұрын
I would love to see au art of that. Lindsey as chika and Harold as ishigami
@meiswierd.
@meiswierd. 8 ай бұрын
Omg YESSSS this is why I loved aleheather’s dynamic so much
@Kitty294_
@Kitty294_ 7 ай бұрын
Reallll
@JinxFan2003
@JinxFan2003 11 ай бұрын
This ship is why World Tour is my favorite, I don't care that most people hate the season. To me Heather x Alejandro more than makes up for the rest of the season's flaws
@8nicopink868
@8nicopink868 11 ай бұрын
World Tour is a fan favorite season, actually. I've seen MANY claim that it's Total Drama's best, like the choice is always between World Tour and Island.
@JinxFan2003
@JinxFan2003 11 ай бұрын
@@8nicopink868 That's good to know! I just assumed that people didn't like it because I've seen so many people randomly hating on World Tour recently
@8nicopink868
@8nicopink868 11 ай бұрын
@@JinxFan2003 Really? I haven't really seen that.
@kirin1230
@kirin1230 11 ай бұрын
​@@JinxFan2003World Tour and Island have always been the top favourite seasons
@JinxFan2003
@JinxFan2003 11 ай бұрын
@@kirin1230 As they should be
@alexyang1332
@alexyang1332 11 ай бұрын
“Heather’s the only person to have him figured out”. Poor Noah…
@Nan-bara
@Nan-bara 5 ай бұрын
Noah only figured alejandro out the epsiode he got kicked out
@Doctor4077
@Doctor4077 11 ай бұрын
I don’t care what anyone says, this was the best couple in the series. It somehow made fans want to see them both succeed and fail at the same time.
@floricel_112
@floricel_112 11 ай бұрын
27:20 in hindsight, you know what could have been a genius play? Heather voting herself off. Let's do the math. Sierra had immunity and legally couldn't have been voted out, had Sierra not messed up; she and Cody already agreed to vote Alejandro out; while Alejandro and Heather "agreed" to vote Cody out. This leaves Heather is a position where her vote doesn't affect the outcome at best or causes a tie between Alejandro and Cody at worst. Of course, she couldn't possibly imagine that Sierra would accidentally blow up the plane, BUT, from previous episodes where she experienced first hand, she knows that a surprise reward challenge not only will sabotage the outcome (since the only thing that decides what's a reward challenge or elimination round is Chris's whims), but that the voting can and WILL be shown to the contestant if it will stir up the pot further, *especially* since she herself BENEFITED from that very last one. With all of that in mind, the absolute best and smartest play Heather could have made in that moment, where she knows with absolute certainty who each person votes, was to vote for herself in case Chris was up to any shenanigans. That way, both her alliances stand, she didn't betray Al and while in the moment he might be confused at best as to why Heather voted herself off or slightly miffed that she didn't follow through with her vote, he'd get over it immediately afterwards as she didn't outright betray him
@pkmntrainerred4247
@pkmntrainerred4247 11 ай бұрын
Damn, you can certainly impress Heather with that kind of strategic planning
@mihaitavraciu2248
@mihaitavraciu2248 7 ай бұрын
​@@pkmntrainerred4247nah you'd impress Alejandro. Heather would just be pissed that she didn't actually do that.
@frwt2050
@frwt2050 6 ай бұрын
But if Chris showed the votes then Alejandro would know she betrayed him
@joeyburkhart6602
@joeyburkhart6602 11 ай бұрын
Alejandro really was like “together we can rule the world!” Like bruh you’re a teenager
@girlpresident
@girlpresident 6 ай бұрын
LET HIM COOOK
@Lanic03
@Lanic03 5 ай бұрын
A teenager with great dreams !!!!
@Simply_Elisa123
@Simply_Elisa123 4 ай бұрын
Let him dream come true
@8maneater
@8maneater 2 ай бұрын
sometimes i forget that he's a teen and not a man in his mid twenties 😞
@blackskullknight9062
@blackskullknight9062 11 ай бұрын
Heather:PREPARE FOR TROUBLE alejandro:AND MAKE IT DOUBLE
@LesbianAhhhLabyrinthRat
@LesbianAhhhLabyrinthRat 11 ай бұрын
HELP YOU DID NOT 😭
@theshinypeliper8813
@theshinypeliper8813 5 ай бұрын
THAT WORKS AND I HATE THAT IT DOES
@gabyzz1331
@gabyzz1331 5 ай бұрын
EXACTLY MY THOUGHT
@ztyran
@ztyran 11 ай бұрын
26:53 Actually, Heather was going to keep to their agreement until Sierra explained what happened to make her go after Heather, angering her enough to join Cody and Sierra in voting Al off.
@Александр-ч6д4г
@Александр-ч6д4г 9 ай бұрын
Now imagine how cool they would look as participants in Ridonculous Race. Where there are no votes, temporary alliances, betrayals, but instead the cohesion of the couple is required from beginning to end. I would look at this
@denisesacco3894
@denisesacco3894 8 ай бұрын
Too bad they never did a Season 2 of it 😢
@lesterwilliamsjr649
@lesterwilliamsjr649 11 ай бұрын
The thing I like the most about Alejandro is that the character had insecurities and was allowed to very expressive. It would been so boring if the writers always tried to make him look like this manipulating pretty boy who always needed to appear to look calm and in control.
@stormwarrior5362
@stormwarrior5362 11 ай бұрын
Alejandro and Heather’s relationship is one of the two reasons World Tour is my favorite season. The second is Noah the GOAT! Also his dynamic with Owen. So good they did it twice (Ridonculous Tour).
@r0semaryt3a
@r0semaryt3a 11 ай бұрын
Aleheather will forever be one of my favourite ships. They work so well together and are comically cute in the ways they often trip over themselves trying to avoid admitting their feelings. Even when they commit to the romance, it’s so cringey it’s actually fun - which was beyond surprising to say most of All Stars tried to be funny and failed miserably - And the relationship never waters down the characters, if anything it fleshes them out. Sure they’re assholes but they’re teenage assholes, still able to fall for their own emotions and get caught up in their long winded games. There’s a lot wrong with world tour as any season when you get right down to it, but it provided one of the most refreshing villain couples I’ve ever came across; they weren’t even technically a couple until All Stars.
@TheLastCakeGames
@TheLastCakeGames 11 ай бұрын
Nearly fucking DIED when he called Cody "The resident Beta male".
@Mr.WestcottX
@Mr.WestcottX 10 ай бұрын
For real.
@simonnachreiner8380
@simonnachreiner8380 5 ай бұрын
Dude hooked up with his stalker
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 5 ай бұрын
​@@simonnachreiner8380 not exactly by choice.
@rosemary3029
@rosemary3029 Ай бұрын
What about calling zeke "a wild Canadian"
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 11 ай бұрын
I definitely love seeing Heather and Alejandro as a couple in Total Drama! These two villains are made for each other even though Heather is annoyed with Alejandro at first, I think these two are definitely perfect for each other. Evil Love.😁😈🖤💘
@toadlord8594
@toadlord8594 11 ай бұрын
Yeah they are one of the best Villain couples out there. Like if Gaston (Beauty and the Beast) met Classic Maleficent lol.
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 11 ай бұрын
​@@toadlord8594That would be funny.😂
@idigamstudios7463
@idigamstudios7463 11 ай бұрын
@@toadlord8594 And now I'm thinking about Gaston and classic Maleficent... Well mark me down as scaroused.
@darkserpent7191
@darkserpent7191 8 ай бұрын
world tour had some of the best writing man. the way they made you root for heather without changing her character, n even made alejandro grow on you,,
@ZelinkSupporter
@ZelinkSupporter 9 ай бұрын
I think the reason Courtney sides with Alejandro during the finale of World Tour is because she believes that they’re a couple. You have to remember that Courtney was emotionally vulnerable after her breakup with Duncan, and Alejandro almost immediately started a false seduction on her. So, what I think happened was, due to her vulnerability, she genuinely believed they were boyfriend and girlfriend. She doesn’t seem to realize that Alejandro charmed her out of the competition since she still clearly likes him even after getting voted off. Also, when Alejandro confesses his love to Heather, Courtney is the only one who doesn't react with joy or disgust. She was pouting over it because she realized that Alejandro had played her like he played Bridgette and Leshawna
@pompousproductions
@pompousproductions 11 ай бұрын
Geoff and Bridgette both followed the themes of the producers rule of “Not all relationships work out” while also absolutely defying it. They formed their relationship in Island, went straight to constant second base, (Because that’s how far cartoons are allowed to go on screen) then had a huge rough patches where Geoff let greed and vanity take control of him. Then ANOTHER where Bridgette cheated on Geoff (Even though she WAS being manipulated). Then as of Ridonculous Race they were still an official couple and Geoff turns down the idea of saving a princess because he already has Bridgette. If there’s a year between Action and World Tour and a second year between World Tour and All-Stars. Those two have been canonically dating for two in-universe years, which is highly impressive.
@5starrednielle
@5starrednielle 3 ай бұрын
Although she did cheat on him-😭
@Peace210ve
@Peace210ve 10 ай бұрын
Heather was ALWAYS my favorite TD character, even back in Island. I remember Alejeather being one of my very first introductions to the “enemies to lovers” trope and god I’m still obsessed.
@scrimbledeggs
@scrimbledeggs 11 ай бұрын
God, for all of World Tour's faults, I still love the main plot we got with Heather and Alejandro. The fact that they managed to make Heather "the hero" without actually giving her that much of a redemption arc is so fun, and I still maintain that the World Tour final two was the best in the franchise. They were both plot relevant, had an interesting conflict with one another, and you could really see either one of them winning was absolutely peak. Island's climax was in its final three, and Gwen/Owen as a final two is actually kinda boring in comparison, while Duncan/Beth is just... so random and boring lmao.
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 11 ай бұрын
Thru out my time seeing this show as a kid, this takes the phrase "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" to a different levels
@lesterwilliamsjr649
@lesterwilliamsjr649 11 ай бұрын
I feel like this couple is a cautionary tale of what happens when a writer focuses to much on the journey of a ship being confirmed. A lot people like to see the journey but at the end there left with a generic couple fixated on love. This is why you have so many shows end with a couple getting together because writers don't want the auidence to see how boring a couple is when they get together.
@BaoTramNguyen-sv8me
@BaoTramNguyen-sv8me 11 ай бұрын
Nothing better than being awful together ❤️
@connormabe-kropf9251
@connormabe-kropf9251 11 ай бұрын
“I can’t explain it, which is a lie, cause I will” perfectly encapsulates this channel
@astrxlsev
@astrxlsev 8 ай бұрын
the best use of “enemies to lovers” ever.
@cordyceps7531
@cordyceps7531 11 ай бұрын
One of the rare couples on the show that had depth and actually went out with a good sense of closure. All Stars made them a little too lovey dovey for my liking in the finale but it’s still amazing for Total Drama standards.
@guess6635
@guess6635 11 ай бұрын
After the extra extension Love Triangle plus one dynamic, I was actually wondering and awaiting whenever these two in particular would get looked upon. Crazy how their dynamic as well as the whole Love Triangle explosion happened within same season. Where the 26 episode format was able to provide several big plot devices within the same season and why most say World Tour was end of the Peak Era for the series.
@chan8199
@chan8199 11 ай бұрын
These two deserved a whole show on their own 😂
@Mr.WestcottX
@Mr.WestcottX 11 ай бұрын
For real 😂❤
@PramkLuna
@PramkLuna 11 ай бұрын
As someone who saw world tour before TDI, I didn't get the extent of the hatred other characters had for her and just rooted for this clever underdog
@elenpena42564
@elenpena42564 11 ай бұрын
Honestly? They're the one couple from the show that I would believe would last
@Mr.WestcottX
@Mr.WestcottX 11 ай бұрын
For real. Based on their personalities
@toadlord8594
@toadlord8594 11 ай бұрын
@@Mr.WestcottXPersonally one of my personal favorite Foe yay of Heather x Gwen was mostly my own desire for Enemies to Lovers But Aleheather is just pure perfection.
@Mr.WestcottX
@Mr.WestcottX 11 ай бұрын
@@toadlord8594 definitely.
@FantasticMsFish
@FantasticMsFish 11 ай бұрын
This couple altered my brain chemistry and I would go to battle for them
@LesbianAhhhLabyrinthRat
@LesbianAhhhLabyrinthRat 11 ай бұрын
I will absolutely fight alongside you
@amandapanda5087
@amandapanda5087 10 ай бұрын
​@@LesbianAhhhLabyrinthRatAs would I
@Lorrayne.Calazans
@Lorrayne.Calazans 8 ай бұрын
they are our toxic parents!
@seldomandreeseplays-hi7in
@seldomandreeseplays-hi7in 9 ай бұрын
so badly i wanna see them come to the reboot like owen and fuck up everything as a duo and then announce that they're engaged before flying away in some creative way
@sungazing2501
@sungazing2501 11 ай бұрын
So happy they're finally getting attention!! Seriously the most underrated ship in total drama and cartoons in general
@Mr.WestcottX
@Mr.WestcottX 11 ай бұрын
For real. Villains falling in love.
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I ADORED these two as villains and as a power couple
@Mr.WestcottX
@Mr.WestcottX 11 ай бұрын
Indeed. Hot and Evil
@mariez8489
@mariez8489 11 ай бұрын
I remember watching world tour and so wishing they would make these two "camp counselors", assisting chris in future seasons. It wouldve played to their strengths as villians and explore their dynamic as a couple, while adding something new to the series!
@lunarsprinkle6580
@lunarsprinkle6580 11 ай бұрын
I actually gotta say that Heather said herself that her parents did electro therapy on her to make her a nicerer person and her parents are total douches to her
@justinmyers7587
@justinmyers7587 11 ай бұрын
Alejandro and Heather were the best villains in TD, they always made it entertaining and fun.
@MelonTartVA
@MelonTartVA 9 ай бұрын
NGL, I shipped them from day 1. Heather and Alejandro were so alike.
@icedtea4878
@icedtea4878 11 ай бұрын
I loved how they always matched the other's energy
@xenon333
@xenon333 10 ай бұрын
TDWT was the most fun season in large part thanks to Alejandro and his complex relationship with Heather. Well that, and of course the songs!
@delphoxhoopa7289
@delphoxhoopa7289 11 ай бұрын
By the time Total Drama ended originally, this was easily my favorite couple. I love a good "belligerent sexual tension." relationship! 😍❤️‍🔥
@TheOddityFair
@TheOddityFair 11 ай бұрын
I remember loving this evil couple as a kid. I recorded the finale of TDWT for the sole purpose of watching to see which one would win & how. I like how you broke down their MOs so effectively. I wish they had been done differently in All Stars. They could have been the perfect evil power couple. I get a wicked rush imagining how horribly effective they could’ve been. Alejandro could plan out & play the long game, while Courtney could keep them alive in the day to day. 😈
@Doomzdeh
@Doomzdeh 10 ай бұрын
Never forget how Alejandro spent the entirety of the first episode ignoring Tyler and blatantly flirting with his girlfriend, only for Tyler to be the biggest idiot ever all season and supporting Alejandro even after he was voted off by him.
@cherriegetison6093
@cherriegetison6093 9 ай бұрын
Female power fantasy is not getting a hot guy. It's being able to say no to a hot guy because you are just that cool.
@susanneile252
@susanneile252 11 ай бұрын
Villans together are always so fun
@TheRealKlausSchwab_
@TheRealKlausSchwab_ 11 ай бұрын
"And shit, I forgot about All Stars." Ah yes, a phrase that applies anytime the original TD cast is praised.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 5 ай бұрын
Depends on the cast member.
@lesterwilliamsjr649
@lesterwilliamsjr649 11 ай бұрын
HOT TAKE I prefer it when my ships aren't confirmed because I don't want writers ruining what I believe to be a great potentional couple in theory. It can sometimes get annoying when a shipper wants there ship to be confirmed so much they don't consider if they'll like how it's executed. Sometimes ships are better left in fanfiction because once something is cannon its out of a fans control.
@tlkfanrwbyfan8716
@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. Been in a few fandoms where the fanfiction is written better than the actual media and it’s cathartic seeing ships and story come together in an actually well written way that isn’t just because. Yes, I am talking about RWBY primarily. Bumblb is terribly done and bad rep and I don’t care if I get skewered.
@nicoleflores2054
@nicoleflores2054 11 ай бұрын
​@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716I remember seeing the scene where they kiss, I thought it was adorable, though can I ask on why this ship doesn't work? never seen RWBY, so I don't have the context
@nicoleflores2054
@nicoleflores2054 11 ай бұрын
this is exactly the same thing with the Sonic fandom, people wants their ship yet they don't realize what a big deal that would make because majority of the time, your ship being canon, doesn't always end well
@tlkfanrwbyfan8716
@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 11 ай бұрын
@@nicoleflores2054 Team RWBY was supposed to be a sisterhood and the only reason Blake and Yang got together was because a very specific part of the fan base wanted it. And by “wanted it” I mean threw temper tantrums and sent death threats to anyone who didn’t agree. The writer’s caved and started doing their own thing which is unfortunate because Volumes 1-3 are very solid because Monty Oum hadn’t passed at that point and had things he wanted to follow. The current writers have had some moments here and there but the show is just a mess and has been for a while. I just haven’t changed my username because it’d be confusing for all my previous comments.
@nicoleflores2054
@nicoleflores2054 11 ай бұрын
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 ah shit, it's always death threats that come into the table in shipping stories
@lmAmazingAndAwesome
@lmAmazingAndAwesome 11 ай бұрын
12:05 This explains everybody and Heather's relationship in Season 3 perfectly
@davidpescitelli8004
@davidpescitelli8004 11 ай бұрын
4:11 Ok, so this is actually kind of said in the show by Harold in the special before Action with him guessing why Heather is the way she is one of his guesses that she was fat once. Granted the show itself never confirmed it was true, but I guess Harold guessed it. I think Heather and Alejandro really cushioned the blow of the love triangle in World Tour. While Duncan, Courtney, and Gwen were in flames I at least had the toxic couple to follow and keep me interested. I gotta give the writers credit for making Heather of all people the person people were routing for and wanting to win.
@goldendonut5619
@goldendonut5619 11 ай бұрын
from the moment the last TD video came out I was waiting for this one. They're the reason World Tour is the best season. Also, love that you used his last name
@scarletflowers
@scarletflowers 11 ай бұрын
i watched tdi as a teen and didnt know about alejandro until recently when my bf and i checked out the show again, and man i was hooked immediately. heather was always my fav and i love villain couples. stuff like aleheather, chuya (chase + wu ya), etc are so peak
@VampireNinjaBunnies
@VampireNinjaBunnies 11 ай бұрын
Alejandro is honestly my favourite character
@Aisha_Luv
@Aisha_Luv 11 ай бұрын
I've never watched total drama, so I am consuming it entirely through you, cos it seems like more fun.
@belenfmalvar73
@belenfmalvar73 11 ай бұрын
Same lol
@gutsmasterson2488
@gutsmasterson2488 11 ай бұрын
I watched it as it aired with a few gaps, it is a weird but great ride. Being so close to reality but also being cartoony. It’s stuck in a past but tried reinventing itself so much. There is no show like it and there might never be.
@MsMvsc
@MsMvsc 11 ай бұрын
watch it, fool
@cynicalperson161
@cynicalperson161 11 ай бұрын
It's free to watch here on KZbin if you want.
@SPAnComCat
@SPAnComCat 11 ай бұрын
I Love how much of an Interesting Dynamic Heather and Alejandro they had. These Two Contradicting/Conflicting Forces made Me feel Fascinated about how they Balance Each Other out, and yet how Toxic their Behaviours are to One Another, And when Alejandro gets Hit at the Dick by Heather and getting His Comeuppance for being a Selfish Heart-Breaking JerkArse I Felt Satisfied, And also Heather Becomes a Better Person Later on TD.
@SPAnComCat
@SPAnComCat 11 ай бұрын
But UnFortunately; They Rehashed the SAME Dynamic! That Ruins it Now that I Think about it! Word of Advice to the Writers; NEVER Rehash the SAME SHIT you've Done before! EDIT: Never mind.
@medea5235
@medea5235 2 ай бұрын
That's why the 3rd season is my favourite
@elitettelbach4247
@elitettelbach4247 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this palate cleanser!! Alejandro and Heather had such an interesting dynamic and it definitely improved both of their characters imo. World Tour is such a great season largely thanks to the two of them running things.
@MysteryPFPArc
@MysteryPFPArc 5 ай бұрын
"So seeing them be the worst is the best time and SH#T I FORGOT ABOUT ALL STARS!" got me 🤣
@Caspian593
@Caspian593 11 ай бұрын
I think we all wanted them to be evil together in All Stars,but that's what fanfiction is for. :)
@panpanmonday3585
@panpanmonday3585 11 ай бұрын
Normally I hate enemy to lovers but this ( along with dipicifica and sometime lumity) was the exception.
@nicoleflores2054
@nicoleflores2054 11 ай бұрын
i always found it bizarre seeing a media that has a romance, have a couple that is frustrating start to end that has the attention of the show but also have that *one* couple that saves the audience to immediately leave due of the drama.
@XxStrawberryBobaTeaxX
@XxStrawberryBobaTeaxX 11 ай бұрын
I just realized this is where I got my love for the Enemies x Lovers trope.
@pr0jectd3vs
@pr0jectd3vs 7 ай бұрын
is it me or do i just love alejandro and heather...
@darrin777
@darrin777 11 ай бұрын
"I hate you." "I feel exactly the same~" How I talk to the people I love. Only I don't have that hot Alejandro voice. Loved watching these two together.
@zincpodzzz
@zincpodzzz 11 ай бұрын
What did we do to deserve all this Total Drama content??? Loving the videos! If you’re going over all the train wreck couples, I’d like to hear your thoughts on Mike and Zoe! That is, if there’s even enough to talk about lol.
@MrWanton16
@MrWanton16 11 ай бұрын
For better or worse a lot of their coverage has to cover the way Mike's DID is handled and while it's serviceable in their first season the following one leads to a lot of... iffy stuff esp in regards to their relationship writing wise. Charming in S4, a bit of a clusterfuck in S5
@zincpodzzz
@zincpodzzz 11 ай бұрын
@@MrWanton16 Yeah I honestly like them in Revenge, they can be cute. All Stars though, like with most things, does some really odd stuff with them.
@Mr_bukowski4435
@Mr_bukowski4435 11 ай бұрын
This reminds me of recently with the Scott Pilgrim anime Julie who was the more antogonistic character on the protagonist side finally got with Gideon the most antagonistic character of the whole series and they got together and damn it doesn’t just work it soars
@catlover5998
@catlover5998 11 ай бұрын
Heather and Alejandro are a fun couple to watch. When they are not in the game their so lovely dovey that Chris put them back into game to get them back to go against each other
@katysikkema
@katysikkema 5 ай бұрын
When I was a kid I was so jealous of Heather (still loved her though) because Alejandro and her were basically a thing on World Tour 😅 that man is so fine no wonder he was my childhood crush!
@LagrimaArdiente
@LagrimaArdiente 11 ай бұрын
I love this couple, they are so much fun.
@helenagomory
@helenagomory 8 ай бұрын
this is probably the 5th time I see this video, i really like it
@helenagomory
@helenagomory 6 ай бұрын
now its probs the 8th
@Nightshade_Realm
@Nightshade_Realm 11 ай бұрын
Just realizing that my affection for villains probably began with Heather. I remember she was my favorite
@Just_A_Cloud-pu8ke
@Just_A_Cloud-pu8ke 11 ай бұрын
These two are part of the reason I still have hope for Shiping in Total Drama. Sure they're not perfectly healthy. But at least they're not a train wreck like Gwen & Trent, and Courtney & Duncan. (Even if I still love Courtney and Duncan together I can still admit they were a wreck)
@varkolak7779
@varkolak7779 2 ай бұрын
Alejandro and Heather are one of the most well written couples of the shows and one of my favorites.
@hafsaelmalhouf7739
@hafsaelmalhouf7739 11 ай бұрын
I need more ships like these, they're so intriguing to watch
@8nicopink868
@8nicopink868 11 ай бұрын
Goooood am I glad to see you make a video on these two. They gotta be one of my favorite fictional couples of all time. I love the shit out of Aleheather, I have some of their dialogues memorized to the letter because I've loved to watch Aleheather Moment compilations on KZbin since I was in middle school. And I love the way you break down fictional relationships, whether they're healthy couples, or trainwrecks. And right after watching your Total Drama Love Triangle video (which I also loved!!) I really wanted to see you talk about Aleheather, and cleanse your palette with what's gotta be the best Total Drama relationship in my eyes.
@thenerdbeast7375
@thenerdbeast7375 11 ай бұрын
There is always something amazing about villain couples.
@Confederate-hj2dc
@Confederate-hj2dc 11 ай бұрын
They are the Justinian and Theodora of cartoon relationships.
@SarcasticChorus
@SarcasticChorus 11 ай бұрын
S-tier reference.👌
@SCHLOMPY
@SCHLOMPY 9 ай бұрын
And just as badass
@Third7Plays
@Third7Plays 7 ай бұрын
21:47 you can be a protagonist without being a hero. Ever heard of Antihero’s? That’s the definition of Heather.
@OtakuSeikatsuTamashi
@OtakuSeikatsuTamashi 11 ай бұрын
One thing I absolutely love about Total Drama is the multiple endings. While Heather winning in World Tour is my headcanon, I'm absolutely fine with Alejandro winning. Admittedly tho', the first time I watched its finale I was rooting for Cody.
@batdoge5507
@batdoge5507 11 ай бұрын
Antagonists deserve love to!
@trippettfamily4686
@trippettfamily4686 7 ай бұрын
OH MY GOSH I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT SHIPPED THIS, Alejandro and Heather do ao much better than any other mach ups on TDI ever
@mellisha9773
@mellisha9773 11 ай бұрын
LFG!!!!!!! Watching Total Drama as a kid is probably the reason why I loved the enemies to lovers trope so much for so long. Sarcastic Chorus, you have made my Saturday 2 weeks in a row. (probably more but def these past two weeks)
@PerseusToons
@PerseusToons 11 ай бұрын
Great timing considering we were robbed of a deliciously evil villain couple in Disney's Wish
@amandapanda5087
@amandapanda5087 10 ай бұрын
Could Wish have really outdone these two?
@elle-24
@elle-24 11 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD I WAS HOPING YOU'D DO A VIDEO ON THEM, I WASN'T EXPECTING IT SO SOON AFTER THE 3 HOUR ONE.... I don't know what we did to deserve this but thank you for your service
@MattSheridan818
@MattSheridan818 10 ай бұрын
I love both Aleheather and the TDWT love triangle! World tour is my fav!
@sweetcherry7759
@sweetcherry7759 11 ай бұрын
I want them to get married & have a child that is super ironic in how genuinely nice they are compared to their parents 😄
@thatguy-ro1ju
@thatguy-ro1ju 11 ай бұрын
The real villain of this series is Chris
@Mr.WestcottX
@Mr.WestcottX 11 ай бұрын
For real 😂
@shimerrill967
@shimerrill967 11 ай бұрын
He is a bit masochist
@anbuuchihax
@anbuuchihax 11 ай бұрын
heather s3 is more of a redempation arc then full on villian tbh
@POP-nm1ix
@POP-nm1ix 11 ай бұрын
I love these two. Thank you for covering them.
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