Heating my home with a Chinese diesel heater.

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en53kff

en53kff

Жыл бұрын

After watching many videos about chinese diesel heater setups, I have built my own. Choosing some ideas and tips from others that suit my needs. I'm heating a two bedroom bungalow. Details about the heaters can be found on other KZbin videos, this one is only to show my own setup. I don't have links to items I used but have suggestions to what to look for below.
🔴 Before anyone else comments on the ducting not being insulated, once videoing was finished and I’d shown the ‘Y’ piece and reducers, it was insulated in an industrial grade silvered bubblewrap. 👍🏻
EBERSPACHER/WEBASTO CLOSEABLE ROTATABLE AIR OUTLET VENT 60mm DUCTING
75mm to 60mm Ducting Reducer Outlet Adapter Parking Heater Outlet Converter
Parking Heater Air Vent Ducting Flat Elbow Pipe Outlet Exhaust Connector Black
42mm 60mm 75mm Duct Pipe Black For Air Diesel Parking Heater Conditioner Ducting

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@stevennoble2667
@stevennoble2667 7 ай бұрын
That looks tidy, I have a similar set up in my garden shed/workshop. I had the heater inside but it was a little noisy so I boxed in the underside of an outside workbench and piped it into the shed. Mounting the fuel pump onto something more solid than the flimsy steel on the heater cover really helped the noise. Works a treat tho.
@6ddevil
@6ddevil Жыл бұрын
Good setup, the diesel heater produces dry air, and blowing in from outside means it’s acting similar to a PIV positive input ventilation system, (normally Loft fitted) producing a slight pressure in your home and escaping through gaps and holes etc, slowly pushing out damp air and introducing fresh dryer air. I’ve got a PIV in my loft and will be setting up my diesel heater similar to you in the summer. 👍
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
YES, someone who gets it…. you’ve got it ‘bang on’. 😀 So many people have said “you need to recycle the air from indoors”. I have positive pressure = no draughts. I have fresh air = no condensation on windows. Yes, I may be using slightly more fuel, but the benefits outweigh that. I did look into PIV but no longer need it. We all learn tips by watching others videos and using bits that best suit us. Good luck with your set up and thanks for your positive comment. 👍🏻😀
@6ddevil
@6ddevil Жыл бұрын
👍😉
@ardneww
@ardneww 5 ай бұрын
have you got heater installed in front of the PIV system for your house?
@merlin5476
@merlin5476 7 ай бұрын
Loved the sound of all the starlings and sparrows 👍
@scopex2749
@scopex2749 7 ай бұрын
THAT is a brilliant idea! Im fitting one of these in my camper build so I think I'll put one in the house too!
@copstan
@copstan Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Rob, very interesting I've never seen this type of heating before. It looks very simple to set up, I think I may have to look into it myself.
@MickeyMishra
@MickeyMishra 8 ай бұрын
Now that is a smashing good installation!
@paulbrown521
@paulbrown521 5 ай бұрын
Good job , well done
@ruck-a-tron
@ruck-a-tron 11 ай бұрын
Nice setup. I think the reducers are good for the airflow, since you split the output air hose in two. I also like how you didn't use a permanent attachment to the house. I think your heater will last longer since it's not sitting out in the heat and humidity of the summer.
@bitcoinstacker
@bitcoinstacker 6 ай бұрын
Also, Poe insulation 😏 would make it go further
@Chequr_Prostate
@Chequr_Prostate 7 ай бұрын
Great job, I think we will start to see more and more of these types of installations. Just make sure your outside socket has 30mA RCD protection if you haven’t already. Especially if you use the spare outlet for a lawn mower etc.
@doddsy799
@doddsy799 7 ай бұрын
I agree, this is a great idea, and will definitely increase in popularity. My concern going forward, will be how long is it, until these are outlawed in someway by the authorities.
@TIMSANDYSURF
@TIMSANDYSURF 7 ай бұрын
Very neat. Well done.
@oo9467
@oo9467 5 ай бұрын
Excellent build
@robin8215
@robin8215 6 ай бұрын
Great set up , have been thinking how best to use this heater for my garden office and your explanation and set is perfect a big thank you for sharing
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome. Good luck.
@michaelstanley3961
@michaelstanley3961 5 ай бұрын
👍 Nice job
@paulwilliams8536
@paulwilliams8536 Жыл бұрын
I’ve bought one of these heaters ready for my shed build. I’ve also been looking in to the condensation problem I have in the house and a PIV SYSTEM Positive Input Ventilation where you pump fresh air in to the home from the loft space, creating positive pressure which cures the condensation. When I first saw you were pushing fresh air in, my first thought was better to recycle the air, then you mentioned the condensation and EUREKA you’ve got a PIV system at a fraction of the cost, think I’ll have to order another heater 👏👏👏
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul. Yes, I’ve seen those PIV systems and by all accounts they’re very effective . How they compare with a diesel heater I wouldn’t like to say. Many people like to quote that I’m “doing it wrong” by drawing in air from outside and I didn’t design my set-up lightly or without lots of studying of videos of others. You read advice about opening widows and letting in fresh air when folk complain about condensation, especially in these winter months. But I’m basically doing the same thing. Maybe you should try one heater for your house, then, if your happy with the results buy the second one for your shed. Another point which most people don’t realise is, when you provide the positive pressure, it eliminates any draughts, and in doing so, helps keep out the cold. You watch, I’ll still have another viewer come on here tomorrow and say “you’re doing it wrong”. Anyway, it’s my set-up, it works well and I’m happy with it. Hope yours works out for you and thank you for your comments. Cheers. 👍🏻
@randomnamehererandoname1727
@randomnamehererandoname1727 Жыл бұрын
look up HRV units. there is a small company called acurasee that makes them and they aren't thousands of dollars either. same concept, cheap price.
@affieuk
@affieuk Жыл бұрын
@@en53kff So if I put this in the loft, would I need to cut a hole to the outside to feed air in? Any pointers on youtube videos or maybe some sort of diagram to explain this. As soon as I saw a video on these diesel heaters, I've been looking to see if someone used it for their home and you're the first. I'd love to figure out how much cheaper it is vs the code of gas or electric. My house has very poor insulation so if I'm here next winter, this is something I'd like to implement. Thanks very much for the detailed explanation and your reasoning.
@bullet-catcherhohoho250
@bullet-catcherhohoho250 Жыл бұрын
Well done.
@richardsandwell2285
@richardsandwell2285 Жыл бұрын
Its a great install, they are quite efficient I know a lot of friends using them.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Hi Richard. Yes they are efficient. Have you not thought about joining your friends and getting one? Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻
@Bertie_Ahern
@Bertie_Ahern Жыл бұрын
Nice job. I've been planning something similar for a while. Everyone should be doing this until prices come down to something reasonable.
@randomnamehererandoname1727
@randomnamehererandoname1727 Жыл бұрын
exactly. if the price of diesel gets to be not economical for use in these heaters, we are all going to be having way bigger things to worry about than heating our homes! at that point, the world will be on a fast track to shitsville, as diesel is the world's most used fuel for shipping infrastructure (both road and water) and would mean a cataclysmic ripple effect in the world economy. a lot of people like to shit on the chinese for intellectual property theft, but god bless em....without them we'd all have to spend $1000 or more on the webasto or eberspacher units. china numbah one!
@EelingStudios
@EelingStudios Жыл бұрын
I can only see fuel prices going up, we ain't seen nothing yet with this insanity gaining momentum as we do nowt to stop it.... 😕
@user-dn4sr1rp7r
@user-dn4sr1rp7r 8 ай бұрын
You can always buy fuel from lorry drivers, especially the ones from abroad. Just approach them and say you want some fuel. Usually it's £1 per liter. I personally think wood burner is much better option as you can get wood for free
@michaeldemetriou1399
@michaeldemetriou1399 7 ай бұрын
Very well done.
@TheJDWay
@TheJDWay 6 ай бұрын
Great video mate. Thank you. KZbin at its best
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍🏻
@martink9785
@martink9785 Жыл бұрын
Nice install 👍
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Cheers Martin. 👍🏻
@billienomates1606
@billienomates1606 Жыл бұрын
'I've got one for both holes' cracked me up because that is what the wife is always saying ha ha ha ha ha , nice job on the installation has given me a few idea's form my external setup.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Hi Billie. You’ve obviously got a very understanding wife. 😄 I’m glad you picked up a few ideas. That was the idea of the video, to show what can be done, keeping it tidy and useable. Maybe you will make a video to show us your set up when you’ve finished. Cheers. 👍🏻
@billienomates1606
@billienomates1606 Жыл бұрын
@@en53kff Can do but it is looking a bit Frankenstienish at the moment as I have zero skills and zero confidence. I will post as soon as it is running unless I blow myself up in the build.
@johnbernard204
@johnbernard204 Жыл бұрын
I installed mine inside a utility room I made. Used a wall Timbal for the exhaust, air intake is inside, ired up to a wall mounted home furnace thermostat with two time delay relays and a power supply.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you’ve got it sorted there John. Yes, I’ve seen timbals used a few times in different circumstances. You’re obviously happy with it like I am with mine which is what counts. Cheers John. 👍🏻
@RD-qp3mu
@RD-qp3mu Жыл бұрын
Lots of good tips, like the 60mm concept. On my project list for next autumn. Heater prices are silly right now.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Thanks bud. 👍🏻 Yes I think the 60mm works well, especially when you’re splitting the blowing output. More force behind air pressure out of each exit. I bought mine literally the week before prices rocketed.
@RD-qp3mu
@RD-qp3mu Жыл бұрын
@@en53kff where did you get the swivel ducts from?
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
@@RD-qp3mu www.bowerspartsonline.co.uk/brands/eberspacher/air-outlet-vents-accessories/eberspacherwebasto-heater-60mm-ducting-rotatable-closeable-air-outlet-vent-black-9012300a-1320206a I found these were the cheapest, UK shipping not China, also in stock.
@robertcooper1908
@robertcooper1908 Жыл бұрын
Nice job I've fitted one into conservatory and working fantastic actually heating 3 rooms and not on too high a heat. Found your problem with the cold draught when turned off and bought a similar close able 75mm vent from ebay , only had it blowing 5 minutes at 25 degrees and it started melting and deformed like it was made from plastercine 🤨. So hopefully the vent you purchased will be available in 75mm or I'll carry on stuffing with a tea towel 😀 👍 keep up the good work.
@truthseeker1364
@truthseeker1364 7 ай бұрын
Nice clean job
@thornwarbler
@thornwarbler Жыл бұрын
Nice well thought out install..........Cheers
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 😊👍🏻
@philtebble4390
@philtebble4390 Жыл бұрын
Very clever my friend
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 👍🏻
@venenareligioest410
@venenareligioest410 9 ай бұрын
Ingenious 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@gillcelt
@gillcelt 5 ай бұрын
Good vid thanks.
@heterogeneityrocks1
@heterogeneityrocks1 5 ай бұрын
Interesting indeed my friend. Cheers
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@Chris.stew68
@Chris.stew68 3 ай бұрын
Nice 👍👍👏👏
@jcreswick
@jcreswick 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant 🎉 well done 👍🏼✅
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@leelossi1257
@leelossi1257 Жыл бұрын
Great video........sounds like it works perfect
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Yes Lee, it works just great and I’d do the same again. Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻
@sikugord03
@sikugord03 5 ай бұрын
That’s actually a fab idea lol. We converted a camper. Might use one in the home.
@themackeler5011
@themackeler5011 Жыл бұрын
Nice job iv got a diesel heater so this looks good set up
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Cheers bud. 👍🏻
@asmallholdersjourney3618
@asmallholdersjourney3618 Жыл бұрын
Love it. Care to take a look at mine with heat recovery both exhaust and air recycling and also dehumidifying.
@ilovemywife34
@ilovemywife34 Жыл бұрын
You may want to consider drawing your air that’s to be heated from inside the house. I used to draw mine from outside and like you said about condensation, the near zero temps prevented the burner core from getting to full operating temperature. The result was it sooted up in no time and shut down. I luckily got way without stripping the unit down. I now run a pipe from inside the building and no problems since. Lots of moisture traps and job done 😎👍
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
When they leave the factory the heaters are not tuned to your circumstances - air density, temperature or humidity, regardless of where in the world they are going to be operated. Where it sits will also make a difference, for instance, how much air it manages to draw and at what rate the hot air expels. I’ve tuned my heater, in situ, in minus temperatures, to its optimum, having to increase the fan speed but reduce the pump rate. My infrared thermometer confirms heat value at both high and low rate plus no visual smoke or moisture output at the exhaust at any stage of the burn. Im happy that it’s running at its best and won’t soot up, especially as I’m running on diesel only and not some concoction. Thank you for your interest and indeed your comments. 👍🏻
@punisher288
@punisher288 Жыл бұрын
@@en53kff for how ong did you use it like that in colder times
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
@@punisher288 Ihave it on in the morning for a couple of hours and then again in the evening for about six hours.
@itsumonihon
@itsumonihon 11 ай бұрын
If you do it like you're describing, you're pulling heated air from inside your building into the diesel heater and ejecting it out the exhaust. This is wasteful. This also pulls cold air from outside into the house through cracks, reducing your efficiency and creating very cold drafty areas wherever sealing is not perfect. I can't recommend what you're doing - there are better ways to address the problem.
@madeleyinc
@madeleyinc 10 ай бұрын
​@@itsumonihonunfortunately you don't understand positive presure principles. Drawing intake air from outside stops cold air entering the house through unsealed gaps, no cold spots.
@PROJECTMONTAGE
@PROJECTMONTAGE Жыл бұрын
Great video! An update on the cost benefits of heating with one of these would be another good video 👍
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4fJYoetl7F-p7M Hi Jack. Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻 There are so many videos out there on every aspect of these heaters that I’d only be repeating what someone else has already done. I made my video purely to show my set up. However, I have given you a link to a video where a guy shows you how to work out the costing, dependant on how high you have your heat set (pump rate) and with different fuels. You may have to make some adjustment in calculation if your fuel is a different price, but the maths are all there. It’s a quick video so you may have to replay it a couple of times or pause it. Almost anything you need to ask is covered by someone’s video, it’s just a case of a quick search on KZbin or Google. It’s how I learned and got hints and ideas. Good luck with it. All the best. 😊
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Jack, you may be interested to see comments from Nigel D & also from Gary McKinnon. 👍🏻
@PROJECTMONTAGE
@PROJECTMONTAGE Жыл бұрын
Great thankyou for your quick replies and help, I will definitely check them out! Keep up the good work ✅
@rizla7708
@rizla7708 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqXMhHh9hJujj6s This guy goes over cost and alterations to improve. Hope this helps.
@lloydevans2900
@lloydevans2900 5 ай бұрын
There is one more modification you could make in order to recover some wasted heat and make the system more efficient: Extend that air intake (the bigger one for the heated air, not the small air intake for combustion) by a few metres with a well insulated tube, running in a straight line. Then make a hole in it just big enough to poke the exhaust pipe into, as close to the heater unit as possible. Run the exhaust pipe down the middle of the air intake tube, such that the flow of the exhaust gases goes in the opposite direction to the flow of the air intake. Ensure that the exhaust pipe is at least a metre longer than the air intake tube, so that the final exit of the exhaust is a good distance away from the entrance to the air intake. Then put some thick insulation (of a non-flammable type such as glass fibre tape or rock wool) on the short section of exhaust pipe between the bottom of the heater (where the exhaust pipe starts) and the hole where it goes into the air intake tube. This will turn the intake and exhaust combination into a counter-flow heat exchanger: The cold air entering the air intake tube will be heated by the hot exhaust pipe running down the middle of it, recovering some of this otherwise wasted heat and making the hot air flowing into your house even hotter. This should significantly increase the temperature of the air flowing into your house for any given power setting, or allow you to use a lower power setting than you would otherwise need for the amount of hot air you want. These diesel heaters are essentially heat exchanger systems anyway, this modification just makes it more efficient.
@bernhardrichter1030
@bernhardrichter1030 4 ай бұрын
I must have seen like a hundred videos about these heaters. This is probably the best suggestion I've heard so far as with regards to improving efficiency.👍👌.
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Great idea 👍🏻
@pudsrus2
@pudsrus2 6 ай бұрын
Genius👌🏻👍
@garyjjohnson9021
@garyjjohnson9021 Жыл бұрын
Great video with some great tips Wish I bought one a while back as they have virtually doubled in price
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Yes Gary. They shot up in price a week after I bought mine. Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻
@nicksullivan2212
@nicksullivan2212 6 ай бұрын
Looks like you’ve done a great job there. Only one thing I would do insulate the pipes you can get some pipe insulation. Would you just keep the temperature up good job, 👏👏
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment. In the video description, it says that the pipes were insulated. I did this once the video had been made.
@GaryMcKinnonUFO
@GaryMcKinnonUFO Жыл бұрын
Nice job, i've got one of these for my shed, works out at between 5p and 9p per kilowatt hour depending on diesel price, which is great in comparison with 34p per kwH for electricity!
@nigeldancy
@nigeldancy Жыл бұрын
ive run mine off kerosene with no issues for about 7 weeks now and its only about 70+vat a litre
@GaryMcKinnonUFO
@GaryMcKinnonUFO Жыл бұрын
@@nigeldancy Nice, do you have to buy a lot to get that price ?
@paulharrison2325
@paulharrison2325 Жыл бұрын
How are you getting diesel so cheaply?
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 Жыл бұрын
@@paulharrison2325 red diesel ? 🤔
@GaryMcKinnonUFO
@GaryMcKinnonUFO Жыл бұрын
@@paulharrison2325 I got normal diesel for anywhere between £1.70 and £1.90 but some on YT have said they get red diesel for as low as £1.30.
@SwedenLover090
@SwedenLover090 5 ай бұрын
Nice video. Good quality on the video and talk. Looks very nice, good work. 🎉👍
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@baronvonchickenpants6564
@baronvonchickenpants6564 7 ай бұрын
What a progressive word we live in, going back to oil heating
@ziggarillo
@ziggarillo 7 ай бұрын
Is "what" a progressive word?
@techtinkerin
@techtinkerin 6 ай бұрын
Tell it to the government
@786otto
@786otto 6 ай бұрын
That is one off stupendous comment on I n telnet
@jandejong2430
@jandejong2430 6 ай бұрын
"Net Zero" is the name of the expensive boondoggle.
@Ktron99
@Ktron99 6 ай бұрын
My main fitted boiler runs off oil
@markharris8929
@markharris8929 Жыл бұрын
Just equipped my van with an Eberspacher recirculating diesel heater. It was fitted professionally under the left side next to the main fuel tank and I have the hose into the van but it’s not wired up yet. -1’ last night so sodding freezing in the sleeping bag!! I must get it wired in! 😅
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Mark, when it’s wired in you’ll love it. In fact I’ve heard of people having them in the van and they get too hot. A good brand the Eberspacher too. Get it sorted, you’ll sleep like a baby. 😊
@FreeThinkingTruther
@FreeThinkingTruther 5 ай бұрын
Small solar cell on the roof of your outdoor cabinet , charge controller and small deep cycle battery, be fully off grid option then.
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your suggestion. I am going to look into a small solar cell. Cheers.
@MLA..
@MLA.. Жыл бұрын
The exhaust pipe can exit the building using the same method as a wood burning heater using a metal duct and a metal inside liner.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct. That’s not what I wanted though in my build.
@vauny24
@vauny24 Жыл бұрын
Good set up ideally should think about insulating the hot air pipes into house outside as you will get heat loss in freezing weather.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Already done. 👍🏻
@WEYMOUTHHARBOUR
@WEYMOUTHHARBOUR Жыл бұрын
Very nice set up
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
@@WEYMOUTHHARBOUR Thanks Steve. 👍🏻
@davidpunchard5698
@davidpunchard5698 Жыл бұрын
Have you got a video of the appliance running please.. nice set up by the way.. ps, what does the temperature get up to in the room ? .. thanks. Dave
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
@@davidpunchard5698 Hi there. I don’t have a video of it running. I could do one but there are many out there already on KZbin, It’d just be another of many. The control unit lets you set the temperature of your room. I set mine usually at 20c. The heater runs at full until it reaches 20c then you can hear it quietening down almost to a ‘tick over’ to maintain that 20c room temperature.
@adradic3782
@adradic3782 6 ай бұрын
Nice i have the same
@RichardCummins-ni4em
@RichardCummins-ni4em 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, good information. Haveyou considered lagging [insulating] the 75mm discharge tubes ? My shed heater draws and discharges air from within the shed and the discharge tube runs quiet hot, wasted heat in your case and tubes being effectively finned dramatically increases surface area.
@NahBroUK
@NahBroUK 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I recently bought 10m of high quality weatherproof exhaust lagging for my boat for ~£25. The manufacturer says it keeps in up to 50% of heat. Even if in the real world you only get a 10% increase in efficiency, this will pay for itself in mere months.
@hugobose2254
@hugobose2254 4 ай бұрын
Looks great, a sound check?? inside and outside, might be worth another vid
@sprint12polska
@sprint12polska Жыл бұрын
Nice installation, I done similar project I used plastic storage box/bench from B&Q as heater housing, I decided to buy one of these heaters after this last cold wave we had here in Ireland, and big impulse to do this was my gas bill :P. Due to house configuration (terrace) I was only able to do one outlet in the kitchen but still all downstairs get nice cosy warm after while, my wife love it she was sceptical on this but now she use it all the time. We use about 10-15 litres of green (lower tax) diesel per week , 1.10 euro per liter so is not to bad IMO.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Hey, good for you. 👍🏻 it’s a good feeling knowing that your house is warming up and you’re not paying through the nose for it. It sounds like you used your initiative when looking for a box to put it in. Great idea. Some people criticised me for using timber to make my box saying it was a fire hazard. But as you know, it’s only the exhaust that gets hot and as long as that is safe you are good to go. I’m using lower tax diesel too and a similar amount per week. This idea really seems to be catching on now even though the price of the heaters has doubled. Good luck with it and thank you for your comments.
@sprint12polska
@sprint12polska Жыл бұрын
@@en53kff I used bit of this stove heat resistant sealing rope to cover gap between exhaust pipe and hole I drilled on the side of the box I was checking that for few days with IR thermometer and no problems, I had to cover this gap because sometimes wind blow some exhaust gases back to the box as I don't have to long exhaust pipe. And yea only exhaust is really hot but if you keep 1cm clearance all will be OK. I used it with battery and charger now I have 30A power supply (power cuts are very very rare here) not sure yet what I will use in the future maybe I back to battery. Anyway keep warm greetings from IRL
@luckyphil_01
@luckyphil_01 Жыл бұрын
Lucky with the green diesel - how do you buy that, as a heating fuel as opposed to for a car?
@sprint12polska
@sprint12polska Жыл бұрын
@@luckyphil_01 just at my near petrol station they have separate pomps with kerosene and green diesel. Of course you can use this to your car but from time to time you can be stopped at checkpoint and they check sample of your fuel on spot. If they noticed traces of green diesel in your tank I think 🤔 you on trouble.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
@@luckyphil_01 Hi Phil. Here in the UK it is dyed with a red dye and hence we call it red diesel. It is sold at its own pump at our local filling station. Before you can purchase it you have to fill-in forms and show ID and say what it is going to be used for. It can’t be used in any mode of transport but it’s okay for personal use in heating. You are then given paperwork which you must show each time you want to purchase. The attendants do watch you fill your containers and check that you are not putting any in your vehicle.
@tedhaze1
@tedhaze1 5 ай бұрын
Looks okay to me I put mine in a metal box outside and I like drawing in the outside air as well but I would say with those lengths of pipes that you have heading in the house for the Heat Ducks should be insulated
@MrAwol007
@MrAwol007 5 ай бұрын
I was thinking same thing there’s going be heat loss due to no insulation
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Yes, the pipes were insulated once the video had been made.
@L1vR-1948
@L1vR-1948 Жыл бұрын
Thanks :-) 👍
@t.d.5804
@t.d.5804 5 ай бұрын
A friend did the same, these heaters are everywhere. But he is spending 80€ a month on heating oil/diesel plus a bit of gas for the main heater in the rest of the house. Asked him why he did not use an air condition (air air heat pump). He hat no explanation except that is costs 1200€. Well.....better heat, no fumes and cool in the summer and its cheaper long term. I heat/cool my house only with an air air heat pump, simple, easy to install, low costs. Runs 8 months of the year with PV modules on my roof. Dont have to buy any oil
@urbanimage
@urbanimage 8 ай бұрын
You can run these heaters on domestic heating oil which is much cheaper than diesel.
@GordonjSmith1
@GordonjSmith1 4 ай бұрын
So sorry that this was necessary, but a pragmatic solution to a difficult economic problem. Could I also suggest a de-humidifier in the house? They are very inexpensive to run, and reduce your energy costs more than their running costs - an additional benefit is that they prevent black rot and other 'damp associated' problems (including condensation).
@t-rex4211
@t-rex4211 4 ай бұрын
Indeed. I run mine 24/7 and costs about £1 a day. Saves £2 a day on heating I’d say
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Yes, I have a de-humidifier running 24/7 over the winter months.
@GordonjSmith1
@GordonjSmith1 3 ай бұрын
@@en53kff So sorry that it is necessary to run a de-humidifier so much, but they do work well when needed. My thoughts are with you. Have you explored all the ways that damp is entering the home? Have you tried hanging your recently washed clothes out of doors before 'finishing them off' indoors? Do you have some air circulation in each room? (Windows do need to be opened for a period of time regardless of the temperature. ) Wishing you all the best. G.
@yonxy
@yonxy Жыл бұрын
Amazing setup, and thank you for sharing! I have a little tip - if you want to get rid of clicking sound of the fuel pump just hang it on elastic bands or zip tie, it will become almost silent. I have a question about the exhaust fumes. The house it's not a camper, it doesn't move. Does the fumes cloud builds around your house? What about your neihgbours, any complains?
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Hi Den. I’ve never had an issue with the clicking because of its location. I don’t hear it inside the house. Although I have heard of different methods to quieten it as you suggest, but never needed to change it. As for the exhaust, there are no clouds as such. I get no visible signs, no smoke or moisture content and no obvious smell either. I have seen videos where smoke bellows out but can only assume that is more to do with what fuel they’re using or the heaters settings. As I live near the sea it is nearly always breezy and so imagine any fumes are quickly dispersed. My neighbours aren’t close enough to be within earshot of the heater. I do have an oil fired central heating system which has a large heater and is outside, albeit in a brick built shed type construction. . If I turn that on, it is 3 times louder than my diesel heater although not annoying loud. I’ve never had a complaint about that either. Hope this answers your questions. Thanks for your interest. 👍🏻
@stewartgarner-jones9226
@stewartgarner-jones9226 Жыл бұрын
cool setup. the only thing I would add is to insulate your ducting pipes going into the house
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Must be about the tenth person commented on that. After recording the video showing the ‘Y’ piece and the reducers, I later insulated all the outside ducting.
@user-nz6dx2fj6h
@user-nz6dx2fj6h 2 ай бұрын
It would be better to use the metal flexible exhaust pipes(extended) to create a small radiator for the taste gases so that it can distribute the heat before it goes out cold(or much colder). That was it's a double heating system. In addition, what fuel are you using? I use half diesel and half recycled sunflower oil. To purify the old oil, make a paste of Baking powder and water, add to warm old oil and then bring to a boi, stirring constantlyl. It will get most if not all the impurities out, which saves you from using several filters of diminishing sizes.
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@andybibby342
@andybibby342 4 ай бұрын
The only concern to me is the exhaust pipe ends directly under the window. But great video and install. Thanks for sharing.
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Yes, but the window remains closed over the winter.
@paulrattray8121
@paulrattray8121 Жыл бұрын
Preheat the air entering the heater by either wrapping it around the exhaust or the heating pipe
@alexandrosr5179
@alexandrosr5179 Ай бұрын
Hehe, mate, your voice is very close to Anthony Hopkins voice 🎉...nice setup !
@nateuk2542
@nateuk2542 Жыл бұрын
Have a look into using quilted foil insulation wrapped around the hot air pipe
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Hi Nate. If you read through previous comments you will see that I have already done this. Cheers. 👍🏻
@nateuk2542
@nateuk2542 Жыл бұрын
@@en53kff gotcha 👍
@floriniancau5766
@floriniancau5766 6 ай бұрын
Great job! The 2 long hoses with heat air must have thermal insulation !!! otherwise it will loose to much heat an poor efficiency when outside temperature drop.
@JR-xw5dk
@JR-xw5dk 7 ай бұрын
Richard Baker did some good work measuring the air speed and delta temperature on what was sold to him as an 8k diesel heater and this output was closer to 3kw not the 8kw he was sold. The 8k might be kilo calories not kw. If you are comparing electric rates you may not be getting what you thought. But still lower cost with the higher energy cost.
@HiruS22
@HiruS22 5 ай бұрын
Too true, of all the tests of 8Kw heaters I’ve seen, only one reached 5Kw with the rest between 3 and 4. A bit like the Chinese headlights/torches that advertise 100,000 lumens 😂
@craigwalker5032
@craigwalker5032 8 ай бұрын
Looking into this for the winter, did the control unit come separately? All the heaters ive seen has the controller attached to the unit
@e-bikerbulgaria
@e-bikerbulgaria Жыл бұрын
I was surprised when didn’t mention insulation on those exterior hot air ducts? Very nice install. Bought one 5kw version recent and installed six metres of 75mm alloy chimney flue lining. The entire length radiates heat plus even lowest setting warm air is expelled at the outlet. Be ideal if the fan setting was independent from the diesel consumption, more speed at a lower setting preferable.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Yesterday I added insulation along the lengths of ducting and it does help a little. I’m using industrial grade thermal bubblewrap, wrapped and tied with nylon cable ties. Depending on which model controller you have, it is possible to adjust both the pump settings as well as the fan setting. Here’s a link to a video showing how, and tuning the heater to be more efficient. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ6mioSrapioo80
@e-bikerbulgaria
@e-bikerbulgaria Жыл бұрын
@@en53kff Spanner icon top left button that is controller in use. Must be the most basic controller? Tried getting into settings very little adjustment. The link is Tony’s site. I should have checked the controller was that seen in the video that tipped me over direction of purchase. I had been pondering for years to buy Diesel heater more serious since installation LPG shower. Which is where the pipe’s air exits into the shower room. Need to set aside some time and ask about the local eateries if I could get used cooking oil. I’d buy a second Diesel Heater to heat main house if was run on used filtered cooking oil. Glad you’re gaining some heat from the insulation every degree Celsius counts these days. Look forward to the insulation video😎👍👍
@flybobbie1449
@flybobbie1449 Жыл бұрын
Loosing heat through piping, cover in loft insulation. I did i my caravan heat trunking.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Already done with industrial grade silver bubble wrap. 👍🏻
@nigeldancy
@nigeldancy Жыл бұрын
ive had mine in since December the 18th and cut my combined electric/gas bill from £240 to 110 ish ....i run of kerosene aswell lovely and cheap i leave mine running all the time with my house being open plan with the stairs in the room it heats upstairs lovely to 21oC only cool room is the kitchen but i can deal with that
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Hi Nigel. That’s great that you managed to cut your fuel bill. I haven’t put a price on mine but it’s quite a saving. Incidentally, I’ve just had a comment that said “I seriously doubt that’s a cheaper method of heating your home”. Just what can you say to that? How much are you paying for kerosene where you are? Do you have to buy in bulk?I’m running on red diesel from our local garage at £1.30a litre.
@TheOfficialBatteryMan
@TheOfficialBatteryMan Жыл бұрын
Is the saving including your price of kero to run the heater?
@markhammond5963
@markhammond5963 7 ай бұрын
Hi Really like the set,was thinking of fitting one myself. Can you tell me where you bought your rubber bungs and your insulation for your outside pipes please? Regards Mark
@user-oz4mx1di7t
@user-oz4mx1di7t Жыл бұрын
Just something to think about I'm seeing a lot of people now putting a egr cooler in the exhaust line and then being able to run a normal radiator and then doubles the heat
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve seen that. It’d be extra work and expense when I don’t really need it. I admire the people who go the extra mile though. It just shows you what can be done. My set up suits my needs right now. Cheers.
@QUADBOYification
@QUADBOYification 8 ай бұрын
Really good setup, niceley done. For backup heating nice to have on hand. I am wondering, did you have estimates on costs running this all day in winter if you had to? Do you plan to use a thermostat to trickle down the heater? I am curious how much diesel you hace stored in your garage?
@en53kff
@en53kff 7 ай бұрын
Hi. I didn’t have estimates as such, just viewed other videos of others on KZbin. I have taken the control unit off the unit, extended the wiring and mounted it in the house. I can set the temperature I require on the unit. Therefore I don’t need a separate thermostat. Once the temperature is reached the units diesel pump slows down and holds the set temperature. I’ve since installed a 15 litre fuel tank to replace the standard 5lt one. I only buy and store 20 litres at a time. Hope this helps. 👍🏻
@stuartcraigon2003
@stuartcraigon2003 4 ай бұрын
​@en53kff if memory serves me it's all your legally allowed to buy and store domestically. Any more and you need a fuel storage licence.
@QUADBOYification
@QUADBOYification 4 ай бұрын
I guess with the correct tank (500L) you would have no problems.@@stuartcraigon2003
@scottweedin7570
@scottweedin7570 5 ай бұрын
Looks awesome , i just purchased the 8kw unit , what size is yours ? I too am seriously considering an outside setup like you have .
@jorgechoypernia
@jorgechoypernia Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.. I just got a new diesel heater and thinking to do something similar. Is the neoprene duct suitable for very high temperature? Also, have you put the neoprene as an inner sleeve or within a metallic duct? :)
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Hi Jorge. Yes it is designed as heater ducting and will take high temperatures. No I don’t have a metal duct, just the neoprene alone, as a sleeve. www.t7design.co.uk/neoprene-heater-ducting-60mm-2-36-id-x1m-f02-53e-5b1.html
@lifeguard547
@lifeguard547 8 ай бұрын
As the pipes are long to enter the house does it still keep it warm enough in winter when entering the house? has anyone thought of having the heater inside the house and exhaust just going to outside thru wall?
@lloydevans2900
@lloydevans2900 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I have my diesel heater indoors, sitting on my fireplace since that is made of brick so there is no danger of the exhaust pipe scorching or setting fire to anything. The version I use has 4 smaller (40 mm diameter) outlet tubes, which allows me to split the hot air into 4 different rooms using 40 mm plastic wastewater pipe, with short pieces of flexible tube to get it around corners. The other reason for having the heater on the fireplace is to route the exhaust pipe up the chimney, so there was no need to drill an extra hole through the wall to direct the exhaust outside. This seems to work efficiently - I have a carbon monoxide alarm next to it which has never gone off, so the chimney draw is evidently enough for this to work.
@Fury9er
@Fury9er 5 ай бұрын
@@lloydevans2900 Thanks for that comment, I was thinking of doing the same thing!
@delphetj
@delphetj 6 ай бұрын
Great installation. Just buy one for the room of my big Son which is not connected to the house - the room not the Son, but not so sure 😉- . Do you know if I can extend the exhaust pipe and put it verticaly over the roof? Thanks for sharing!
@mattschannel1502
@mattschannel1502 5 ай бұрын
I love the comment section on these type of vids everyone becomes a "know it all" but never installed or used a diesel heater! Its comical
@stevin707
@stevin707 4 ай бұрын
Ive got a cabin out the back. Its got the main office room then a partition for a shed. I was going to set the heater up in the shed side of the cabin. In terms of air intake should i pipe that outside? I wasnt going to bother as the main door to the shed is a corrugated door and there are gaps at the bottom where i can see the ground outside so i was hoping that would be enough to let it draw air in without much fuss. Also does the outlet duct get very hot? I was going to pipe that through the partition wall into the main room of the cabin, the walls are lined with wool insulation and i am just a bit conscious of the possibility of starting a fire
@en53kff
@en53kff 3 ай бұрын
Yes, the exhaust does get very hot. Be careful.
@saunteringsapsfords
@saunteringsapsfords 3 ай бұрын
Hi,very interesting, thinking of doing something similar, what amp hr battery did you use please,guessing 50amp hrs will do?
@jamieniche
@jamieniche 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking about doing this at my house, I hadn't thought of splitting it between two room though. Had you thought about insulating the pipes coming in to the house? They must be losing quite a bit of heat.
@en53kff
@en53kff 7 ай бұрын
Hi Jamie. Yes, the pipes were insulated after I shot the video. I wanted to show them in situ beforehand. They are insulated with industrial grade silvered bubble wrap. I used an infrared thermal thermometer to check the heat loss both before and after insulation. The insulation is very efficient. Thank you for your comments.
@vuxs13
@vuxs13 8 ай бұрын
Hi ya Rob, Just quick one please, im renting apartment; im not allowed to drill a wall, so just wondering is output pipe very hot, is there any insulation on it? I was thinking to put window seal for mobile A/C but im afraid that pipe probably will just melt that window seal Regards, Vatro
@MrBergakungen
@MrBergakungen Жыл бұрын
All of eu vill do i, thanks man
@ian.new.life.
@ian.new.life. Жыл бұрын
Please do u have any links to where u bought the exorst extension or any other parts. Mine did not even come with a silencer
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Check out a seller called jorwetpart on EBay. Other links can be found amongst previous comments. Thanks . 👍🏻
@karlossmith3714
@karlossmith3714 Жыл бұрын
As much as I love my diesel heater I don’t think I’d consider using it in the house 🤓 nice job though regardless 😊
@ThisIsJamesL
@ThisIsJamesL 7 ай бұрын
It's outside the house
@IMJUSTBILLUNO
@IMJUSTBILLUNO Жыл бұрын
Also, you might want to think about using a solar panel to charge the battery for those longer power outages. You will continue to have heat with no electricity from the power company.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Hi. Yes that’s always an option to look in to. It could be one of those temporary fold away solar panels that you get out just when you need it. I shall have to price them up. 👍🏻
@IMJUSTBILLUNO
@IMJUSTBILLUNO Жыл бұрын
@@en53kff still, you did a nice looking job on it.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
@@IMJUSTBILLUNO Cheers bud. 😊👍🏻
@StopLossLOL
@StopLossLOL 6 ай бұрын
If you want to add a solar panel and controller as a fun little project, then fine - but the heater draws so little power that it does not make sense financially.
@HiruS22
@HiruS22 5 ай бұрын
It draws quite a bit on startup, but once it’s up to temp the current draw is low
@baked_onion
@baked_onion 6 ай бұрын
What about the gases that the bsttery gives off while charging??not worried about them being explosive?
@grumpygrandpa3640
@grumpygrandpa3640 6 ай бұрын
Don’t the pipes outside build up with condensation though ? How much heat is lost in the pipes outside as they aren’t insulated ? Have you had this running in freezing temps outside yet ?
@TheMetheman1
@TheMetheman1 Жыл бұрын
You got to find an air conditioner for summer to put in the box ;)
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Yeah, for the one week a year that it gets hot enough to use. 😂
@zaidmotala1
@zaidmotala1 10 ай бұрын
Which make and model you used please i am intending to install one. Thank You kind regards
@mohammadwasilliterate8037
@mohammadwasilliterate8037 5 ай бұрын
*My dad got the smallest one of these diesel heaters he could find for his caravan, even on the lowest setting he had to have a window or two open, those things really push a lot of heat for little fuel, be great for a house am thinking.*
@dimitriosfilipakis4504
@dimitriosfilipakis4504 6 ай бұрын
Hey Brother.. this is the video i was looking for!! i am thinking of doing the same to my 140sq meter single level home, using 2 units on each side of the house.. do you mind some questions?... i plan the same setup, using batteries and a trickle/solar charger.. as my house is off grid and very far from public power lines i already bought 2 of these same units!! 1) what size are your rooms? overall sq meters heated? 2) temp difference outside vs inside? 3) do you run the heater 24/7 and is the fuel consumption as stated? or are you burning more fuel 4) are you using its own automatic temperature control? or are you using manual ON/OFF control? 5) any suggestions/recomendations for me?
@hurtinalbertan3844
@hurtinalbertan3844 4 ай бұрын
Great job on the setup, super clean! I have one of these heaters for camping and heating the garage in the winter. My only question is would it actually be cheaper than just running your furnace?? I live in canada and it gets cold as balls, i know i've gone though almost a full tank in one night while camping in -30 degrees. I know you probably wouldn't use only this to heat your house in the winter but even lets say to heat one room on low in the spring/fall you might get a day out of the tank? Diesel costs about $1.60/L around here, so $8 per 5L tank... what I'm getting at is my natural gas bill is around $100/month so much cheaper to just run the furnace instead of using this. But I do use the diesel heater in the garage because I don't have a gas line running out there and I am thinking about building a sand battery to capture the wasted exhaust heat.
@p1xelman
@p1xelman Жыл бұрын
very good, I set up something very similar here at home.. do you have a problem with insects entering through the air intake? Here I built a filter with pvc tube and a thin fabric..
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Thank you. No I don’t have a problem with insects. But there again, it is winter and insects are few and far between at the moment. If I do find I’m having a problem in future I may make some alterations but we shall see. Cheers.
@danyo1972
@danyo1972 7 ай бұрын
Nice set up. Might get one of these for my new garage. How much diesel does it use in a week?
@deadalus888
@deadalus888 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant videos. Unfortunately I live in the city. So my question to you or to anyone else is. Is it possible to convert or connect the heater to heat the water in my radiators of my house. If anyone knows how this can be done, please make a video to let us all know. Many thanks.
@bigKDL
@bigKDL 7 ай бұрын
You can buy a Chinese water diesel heater will fit anywhere in your existing pipework with no trouble
@flippy9133
@flippy9133 8 ай бұрын
I would add automotive filter on the inlet just to minimize dust to be blown into the house
@MrLiamHenderson
@MrLiamHenderson Жыл бұрын
I'd cover that pipe with rockwool or fibreglass. More heat goes into the house and less lost in transit.
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Yep, it was all insulated soon after making the video. 👍🏻
@davidvanhinsbergh2444
@davidvanhinsbergh2444 Жыл бұрын
You need to heavily insulate the pipes as you will think it's air conditioning being pumped into the house running through a fridge plant, nice set up. I use about £2.50-£3.00 a, day heats most of my house, if l was using gas cost me£13 a day . I was a bit skeptical, but not anymore 😁
@en53kff
@en53kff Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s a big saving. 👍🏻 As mentioned in video description, the pipes are insulated. Cheers.
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