PERFECT Diesel Heater Install. Is yours fitted right? 10 MISTAKES to avoid. Transporter Underseat

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UrbanArkOverland

UrbanArkOverland

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The perfect installation? Mistakes you may make spelled out and ironed out. Follow this comprehensive walkthrough. Do's and Do nots. Anything else could land you with problems.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 INTRO
00:48 Mounting Options
03:05 Undertray Removal
03:43 Location
03:48 Orientation
04:00 MISTAKE
04:44 Breakdown of parts
05:33 Underseat mounting
07:01 Building the heater
08:01 Fitting the heater
09:15 Diesel TANK removal
11:44 Fuel Tank connection option
12:27 MISTAKE
13:49 Fuel sender removal
15:13 Fuel sender connection. Preferred option
16:12 Fuel pipe
17:20 Fuel pump
17:30 Silent Diesel Pump
17:37 MISTAKE
18:30 Diesel pump install
19:35 Air Intake
19:46 MISTAKE
20:22 Exhaust
20:45 MISTAKE
21:34 MISTAKE
21:58 Exhaust outlet position
22:10 MISTAKE
22:48 Electrical Connections
25:32 Switching it on
25:53 FAULT CODE 13
26:42 Diesel Pump Noise
27:08 Air intake
27:20 Heat Output
27:33 MISTAKE
28:09 MISTAKE
28:10 Switching OFF
28:33 MISTAKE
29:03 CO ALARM
29:28 MISTAKE
30:04 Maintenance
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@grantshields4284
@grantshields4284 6 ай бұрын
Great video! Il be fitting one and stripping out my Chinese heater
@daviddavis6231
@daviddavis6231 Ай бұрын
what for
@nearafar4974
@nearafar4974 7 ай бұрын
Campervans on le frith! Most helpful chap on crafter group!
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Excellent.
@campervansen-le-frith8517
@campervansen-le-frith8517 7 ай бұрын
We try to be helpful 👍
@VictoriaGetsVocal
@VictoriaGetsVocal 4 ай бұрын
Fabulous video, thank you, I’ll be in touch about fitting mine 😊
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 4 ай бұрын
🔥
@rl5271
@rl5271 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video and info! Regardless of brand name, I have learned a lot from you. Thank you for sharing so freely.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍🏻
@stuartw969
@stuartw969 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video, succinct, on point - very helpful. Thanks.😊
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Excellent. Thanks
@patagualianmostly7437
@patagualianmostly7437 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant explanation. You know your game. I'm very impressed. Subscribed.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 4 ай бұрын
😀
@Curbsidecrafters
@Curbsidecrafters 7 ай бұрын
Two of my fave MVT blokes 👍🏻👌🏼🤙🏼
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Ha ha. Yes lad 😂👍🏻
@MultiOutdoorman
@MultiOutdoorman 7 ай бұрын
The angled cut is an timeless plumbing trick to increase the surface area of the pipe end ... better flow.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@joaoserraemoura3285
@joaoserraemoura3285 3 ай бұрын
Thanks. Explanation clear !
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 3 ай бұрын
👌🏻
@mikefranks4528
@mikefranks4528 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I hope my Ford Transit has a sender tool to allow me to get my fuel sender unit in there properly. Using the auxiliary port is not advisable according to the Velit Gasoline (Petrol) heater guide, using the included fuel sender unit and hardware IS recommended - highly due to performance issues. I think people shy away from your setup as it looks daunting to undertake. But with videos like these it absolutely helps instill confidence.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Thank you mate. Appreciate that. Can always use the option if drilling any flat surface on the tank 👍🏻
@mikefranks4528
@mikefranks4528 7 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland I thought about that sir, but isn’t there an issue with not being able to get the (nut) hardware beneath the surface of the tank? Do we not need a large hole 🕳️ or access panel to make that happen?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
@@mikefranks4528 please watch that section again. There is a crafty little washer that you angle. It drops in and then acts as a back washer. 16mm hole. And no need to access from behind 👍🏻
@mikefranks4528
@mikefranks4528 7 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland oh yeahhhhh, that’s right. Okay, wish me luck!
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
@@mikefranks4528 no problem at all. Good luck. Take ya time 👍🏻👌🏻
@Govermentsound
@Govermentsound 7 ай бұрын
Well documented content 💪🏾
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Thanks pal. Toon a minute 👍🏻
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Took
@tysonristau4995
@tysonristau4995 5 ай бұрын
Nice video, thanks for that
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
👍🏻
@apeadventurevans
@apeadventurevans 7 ай бұрын
Nice mate enjoyed that. Hope that cut off tool Adam was using was an evolution power tools one 🙂
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Ha ha. Bosch I think. Something fancy.
@campervansen-le-frith8517
@campervansen-le-frith8517 7 ай бұрын
They don't do one, Bosch for the win. Also gifted 🤙😜
@_marcus_does_
@_marcus_does_ 7 ай бұрын
Very good 😊
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Thanks you
@frederick6008
@frederick6008 19 күн бұрын
Good overall advice.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 19 күн бұрын
👍🏻
@martinpanks992
@martinpanks992 7 ай бұрын
Prime the fuel lines slightly with the prime feature then you will probably only get error 13 once or twice or maybe not at all. Just be careful to not over prime as you will never get rid of all the air bubbles in the fuel line and will over prime it trying to get rid of the said bubbles, in this instance you will get a big cloud of unburnt fuel coming out of the exhaust pipe at start up.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@ivanbayarri2807
@ivanbayarri2807 6 ай бұрын
Good job great video. Which planer would you install in a Sprinter 7 m long 2d or 4d Thank you 4 the video
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
4d for sure mate. No doubt in my mind. Email if you are looking for a price 👍🏻
@i_know_nothing7788
@i_know_nothing7788 6 ай бұрын
Nice instructions.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Thanks 😀
@bettyourcampervan
@bettyourcampervan 6 ай бұрын
Great video
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Heatersandfridges
@Heatersandfridges 7 ай бұрын
The reason the display cable is not longer is because these heaters are used in many many different types of vehicle and the majority can use the standard cable. I requested the extensions so we can add modems under the drivers seat in a VW transporter without needing to install it by the display. For installations where you want the display at the rear of the van there is a 7m long display cable that replaces the original display cable.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Yep. I do state there are longer cables available. 👍🏻
@briancollis9352
@briancollis9352 7 ай бұрын
Great video really helpful. I have a Caddy Maxi and I want to install one of these heaters, have you installed a heater in a Caddy before?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
No mate. But all principals are the same bud 👍🏻
@andrewfox7861
@andrewfox7861 7 ай бұрын
I hung my fuel pump on a thick exhaust mount rubber, so much quieter than the anything else
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Great idea 👍🏻
@Studio-gp4nk
@Studio-gp4nk 6 ай бұрын
Sparky Rule #1. Better looking at it than for it!
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Exactly 👍🏻
@Bandits_68
@Bandits_68 27 күн бұрын
Great explained video. Just a question regarding the fuel line. Should it have been covered with split conduit?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 27 күн бұрын
Hi mate. No not really. You can of course. But shouldn’t be routing it anywhere that it potentially needs it. So…. Sure go ahead. But not necessary. Your vehicle fuel line isn’t 👍🏻
@Bugoutvehiclesuk
@Bugoutvehiclesuk 7 ай бұрын
Good drills.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
They burned out after that 1 hole
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 3 ай бұрын
​@@urbanarkoverlandusually running them too fast, especially the big holesaw, sometimes it's lack of pressure, you need the heat to stay in the swarf not transfer to the tool.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 3 ай бұрын
@@alanhat5252 ye I was maybe exaggerating. I do like to use a fresh drill though. Seen some examples where it can just slip about and make a mess
@KC6930
@KC6930 3 ай бұрын
Great video! - did you have to remove the flexible ad Blu filler neck so as to remove the fuel tank filler neck?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 3 ай бұрын
Yes mate. 👍🏻
@daveblakey5040
@daveblakey5040 7 ай бұрын
Great video...just wondered what are your thoughts on the pump wiring connector being outside the vehicle, I assume its not waterproof, will it not go rusty?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
It is waterproof. This is where autoterm recommend therefore I’m more than happy 😀
@timowallin8020
@timowallin8020 7 ай бұрын
11:56 Here in Finland you cant modify your car tank. If you do so your car then can fail the "Katsastus" ~ MOT that is done yearly here for older cars. You can modify your sender unit or pipes/hose like in the feeding neck.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Oh wow. Very strict. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@zolobolo3150
@zolobolo3150 17 күн бұрын
Can you explain a little bit more? I don't want to drill the tank
@timowallin8020
@timowallin8020 17 күн бұрын
@@zolobolo3150 Well top side of most tanks is "fuel pickup unit" that houses pump, fuel measure unit and lines out(and in). Today those are made most likely some plastic that is harder then the tank and so they maintain the same shape if the temp is hot or gold and if hit the tank with ground and the tank moves to not get leak the pickup unit still keeps its shape. so we drill on it and shorten the pickup tube so if you bottom up the tank it don't poke hole true it + that your heater cant run you out of the fuel...
@dylanbingham3401
@dylanbingham3401 4 ай бұрын
I have an Autoterm and it worked great for about 2 months. Then it started throwing error code 13, shortly after that the heater filled my entire sprinter van with exhaust fumes while my dog was inside, thankfully we came back in time to open the door and let her out. Still working on getting the smell of diesel exhaust out of our interior.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like there is something fundamentally wrong with either the installation or the unit.
@KC6930
@KC6930 6 ай бұрын
Hi, really informative vid, one question though, have you experience of living with an internal and externally installed heater?, if so, is it louder when installed inside compared to outside?.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
I have not. But to be honest. I wear ear plugs when camping. To dull out any noise. So don’t hear a thing any way 👍🏻
@natalieeccles9604
@natalieeccles9604 6 ай бұрын
Hello, great video, thanks for the advice. One thing I’m hoping you can help with is where to wire the heater to. The manual says direct to the leisure battery, but Roamer recommend wiring it to the fuse box. Is it ok to wire it to the fuse box, and if so, how does this work with the existing in line fuse on the power cable?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
The only reason autoterm would suggest going straight to leisure battery is that they want to avoid the possibility of you turning it off mid cycle. Say you killed the 12v supplies to work on something. Mine is currently wired to my fuse board. Either cut the inline fuse out or simply match it in the fuse board 👍🏻
@natalieeccles9604
@natalieeccles9604 6 ай бұрын
Absolute legend! Thanks so much for getting back to me 🙏
@dant4621
@dant4621 6 ай бұрын
Great video iv been thinking about using this location to install my heater, Do you have a video to show the noise from the heater running as its mounted internally? thanks
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not. That doesn’t sound like much of a video ha
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 3 ай бұрын
others have tried it but it's not a useful scene in a video because both different microphones & different people perceive the noise differently.
@jamesrees8876
@jamesrees8876 2 ай бұрын
Cracking video. How would you secure the pipe onto the heater outside the van if you shouldn’t use a jubilee clip
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 2 ай бұрын
You don’t mate. It’s a snug fit. Make sure it’s cut to the correct length and it will stay there as it should have nowhere to move to 👍🏻
@jamesrees8876
@jamesrees8876 2 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland mine is quite a long run under the van
@OldFartInCamperCar
@OldFartInCamperCar 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for very informative vids 🙂 Question: When fitting the heater as described under the seat, could I add insulation around the heater to minimise noise OR could it make the heater overheat?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 4 ай бұрын
Unofficially. My best guess is that as long as long as whatever you use wouldn’t melt and as long as you don’t put pressure on the case. Should be fine. They sell a box. Maybe put it in the box and use sound deadening dodo around 👍🏻
@OldFartInCamperCar
@OldFartInCamperCar 4 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland thanks for your swift reply, well apprecited
@briancarpenter538
@briancarpenter538 7 ай бұрын
Interesting location for the Clayton unit , want one in my Kombi but struggling with location as have Ovano in the back
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Hi mate. If you need help. Email me and we can chat. Plus. I offer a massive discount on Clayton 👍🏻👍🏻
@bems5066
@bems5066 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, following the Autoterm Air 2d notice, the distance between the fuel tank and the pump is 1 meters max if I see your install it seems that you have more than this no ?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 2 ай бұрын
Yes mate nice seen this in the instructions. Maybe that’s a preference. All I know is. Autoterm use my video in their own website as installation instructions so much be deemed as ok. 😀
@sirflop1220
@sirflop1220 6 ай бұрын
Hello, can you fit the diesel heater outside of the van? (on the vw t25 you got some space outside under the passenger front or in the engine bay? and what about the off roading, where would you fit the air intake so it doesn't fill up with water while driving?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
So. You can fit outside on any van. The heating air intake goes back into the van bathe combustion air intake is the same. Just make sure it isn’t running when offriading. Check out my recent videos. In the quarry and first episode of Xmas roadshow. Do some big water splashes. No problems.
@rachelharding1578
@rachelharding1578 21 күн бұрын
fab video, helped me out a bunch. Quick q, how loud is the unit? on pretty low it stil sounds quite loud both inside and out even after initial start up has settled down and its not the pump ticking, its the fan/ whirring noise of the heater. I know these are meant to be pretty quiet once running but it sounds louder than my last chinese diesel heater. Any ideas? I nerded out and held my phone about a foot away from the unit running which gave a reading of about 88db.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 21 күн бұрын
88db. That’s about the same as a strimmer isn’t it. Nowhere near that mate. The mouse doesn’t even enter my thoughts so can’t be that bad
@evilpod
@evilpod 6 ай бұрын
Are you installing a leisure battery in your Kombi ? If so, where will you fit it with the heater taking up the space under your drivers seat...
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Hi mate. I have the Clayton. I would assume both will not fit. Can go under the passenger seat though. The battery that is.
@neamtialin
@neamtialin 5 ай бұрын
Do you must purge any air out of the fuel lines after you reconnect them? I know diesel pumps don't like to run dry and i had a hard time starting the engine after a fuel filter change.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
No mate. One turn of the key and it fired. 👍🏻
@marinejunkies9625
@marinejunkies9625 7 ай бұрын
Having my webasto diesel heater put in next month looking forward to it. I am having the hot outlet in the B pillars though like Oem not in the seat base
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
That’s a cool idea. Who’s installing that. 👍🏻
@marinejunkies9625
@marinejunkies9625 7 ай бұрын
@urbanarkoverland Absolut5 Audio they are also adding there signature Hertz sound system and leisure battery.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
@@marinejunkies9625 nice one ☝️
@chrisl3977
@chrisl3977 2 ай бұрын
Hi thank you for posting learnt a lot from your video.The outlet hose where the hot air enters the cabin,on mine it’s pushed inside the heater outlet should it be connected to the outside like yours and not pushed inside the heater.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 2 ай бұрын
Yes. Definitely. And do not use a jubilee clip. I’m surprised you haven’t had an issue so far. If it’s crushed it down a bit. See if you have enough play to cut 10mm off and get back to fresh pipe 👍🏻
@chrisl3977
@chrisl3977 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for getting back to me,yes I’m getting a temperture sensor error 12 and error 13 the unit powers off after about 12 minutes.The hose isn’t long it pretty much goes into a bend straight away on the outlet as I have it under my drivers seat.Could it be what’s causing it is the hose pushed into the outlet it might cause the air to be restricted coming out.Yes I won’t use the jubilee clip to connect it to it thanks.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 2 ай бұрын
@@chrisl3977 it may be the bend. Has to be a slow bend.
@chrisl3977
@chrisl3977 2 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland Ok thanks I’ll see if I can have a lesser bend on it.Thanks again for your help👍
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 2 ай бұрын
@@chrisl3977 👍🏻👍🏻
@Heatersandfridges
@Heatersandfridges 7 ай бұрын
On the silent pump,once all the air is out of tge fuel system you will not be able to hear the pump inside the vehicle as long as you install the pipework so it doesn’t rattle against the body.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Excellent thanks for your input Owen. The quiet pump is a game changer I must say. In the Chinese diesel heaters you can hear them across the field ha ha
@markbell7859
@markbell7859 6 ай бұрын
Hi good vid as always but just noticed there isn't a hole in eghaust silence I have same set up in my crafter and I had to drill a hole in mine to drain condensation
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Autoterm directly told me that it’s not necessary 🤷🏼‍♂️
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 3 ай бұрын
I understand almost all silencers are stainless steel nowadays & can cope with a puddle of condensation though if you put it somewhere daft like in direct spray from a wheel it may be a different story.
@SuperGeemer
@SuperGeemer 7 ай бұрын
Jackery 100% runs this. I have the Jackery 500. Most draw I've seen is 100w, about 8amps. Been fitted for over 2 years with 100's of run hours. Mine is also a 5kW.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
If yours is a 5kw. Yours is not a planar. And therefore has a different power draw. 👍🏻
@SuperGeemer
@SuperGeemer 7 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland it's a pump, a fan and a glow plug. The kW output doesn't determine the electrical power draw. Just had a look on Planar's website and doesn't specify a power draw. Mine pulls 8A on start up and about 800mA on tick over.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
@@SuperGeemer I wasn’t stating the kw as a comparison. I was stating it as direct info that planar do not make a 5kw. I had a jackery. And this diesel heater. And I assure you. It did not run it. I thought my heater was playing up. Plugged into goal zero. And away it went
@martinr4637
@martinr4637 7 ай бұрын
Does the heater really use more than 10 amps for startup? I'm looking for a 110v to 12 volt houe adapter, and not sure if I should get a 10 amp or 15 amp adapter. The 15 amp are much more expensive and common.
@Heatersandfridges
@Heatersandfridges 7 ай бұрын
8A is usual max current draw
@matteoschiatti8691
@matteoschiatti8691 5 ай бұрын
Hi, I just mounted the Autoterm 2D on my VW T6 van, it seems to work perfectly! One thing I've noticed is that I can hear when the drop of fuel goes in into the combustion chamber when I run it at low speed, with that I mean the noise of the combustion chamber is not linear anymore but it goes up (when it gest the drop) and down, I've been trying to listen to all videos the noise in background but I couldn't figure it out 😄, can you tell me?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
Never heard this myself mate. No strange noises. Not the pump is it?
@philld2576
@philld2576 7 ай бұрын
There’s a Arrow on the sender unit and on the tank that have to line up with each other . If you don’t your sender gauge won’t work properly as there’s a lump on the in side of the take witch stops the gauge from working properly
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Excellent info thanks
@dancarter482
@dancarter482 6 ай бұрын
There's an indelible marker pen that can help make sure everything goes back where it came from too.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
@@dancarter482 in the sender? Has an arrow too. But a pic always helps.
@jagobouffler6206
@jagobouffler6206 7 ай бұрын
what size is inline fuse. im assuming this can run straight through my fuse box thats connected to my leisure battery. no faffing with inverters?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Yes. It’s 12v. Comes with fuse fitted. 👍🏻
@DRONEMAGIC14
@DRONEMAGIC14 2 ай бұрын
Would you fit one on a fiat Ducato Lads and what kind of lead times we looking at. I would travel from Tamworth, Staffordshire. Roughly about an hrs drive. Great video. 👍
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 2 ай бұрын
Hi mate. Reach out to Adam via email in the description. Or Google campervansenlefrith 👍🏻
@DRONEMAGIC14
@DRONEMAGIC14 2 ай бұрын
@urbanarkoverland Topman. Will do on Monday 👍
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 2 ай бұрын
@@DRONEMAGIC14 👍🏻
@james_yaxley3101
@james_yaxley3101 7 ай бұрын
If you hold the 3 dots down on the controller you can start and stop it without having to scroll through the options. Your pump didn't sound very well primed as it shouldn't have that metallic sounding click and shouldn't be heard inside the van. Good video though 👌.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Yes. Owen from autoterm just said the same 👍🏻 thanks
@johngentry8612
@johngentry8612 6 ай бұрын
My Heater is noisy when stood outside of the van , I know you can get lagging to so say reduce it, would you recommend ???
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Is it a Chinese diesel heater?
@Opsytron
@Opsytron 4 ай бұрын
Fuel out take as it is bend as they send it can be installed on the side of the tank ... is it right ??
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 4 ай бұрын
No. Never the side. On the top 👍🏻
@SH-vb5ph
@SH-vb5ph 6 ай бұрын
The exhaust tip should be nearer the edge of the floorpan, poking out a just little ideally. With it like you have installed it exhaust gases will rise and collect in the upper recesses of the floorpan when parked, potentially permeating if able (e.g. something like a factory wiring boot is not gas tight). Conversions tend to have even more pass throughs of course, and if any of that exhaust gas gets back inside it’ll stink.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Nope. It’s fine. Found a problem where you didn’t need to. Full sign off from auto term. They use this video in their advertising. So think it’s ok.
@SH-vb5ph
@SH-vb5ph 6 ай бұрын
Not looking for problems, it’s simply contrary to the installation guidance from other respected manufacturers including Webasto and Eberspacher.
@ArifGhostwriter
@ArifGhostwriter 5 ай бұрын
This advice is 100% correct - it doesn't matter who 'signs off' on it - even corporations can be dumb. The exhaust gases will by definition rise & well under the vehicle - & only a breeze will have any chance of actually taking it away from the vehicle.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
@@ArifGhostwriter you know many exhaust pipes on actual vehicles terminate under the van itself. So my Mercedes sprinter exhaust terminates half way down the van in the centre. What about that then.
@ArifGhostwriter
@ArifGhostwriter 5 ай бұрын
​@@urbanarkoverland​ Terminating halfway down, sure - but not _underneath_ the vehicle - an engine exhaust tip not reaching the edge of the vehicle would be illegal. Just look at how the heater exhaust terminates on any caravan or motorhome - they would never terminate underneath the floor pan. You're not arguing against me - you're arguing against physics! Hot gasses will rise first. Your installation would only be okay if the vehicle is moving the entire time. If parked, not so good - vehicles are simply not designed to be upwardly gas/air-proof.
@thisnthat3530
@thisnthat3530 6 ай бұрын
That mounting bracket looks like it's only tack welded in three places. Surely the gap between the two parts should be sealed to prevent exhaust ingress?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
No. The exhaust is blowing into open air. Remember the seal I did. That seals both parts. Exhaust cannot go back in.
@jaystuckeyjs
@jaystuckeyjs 6 ай бұрын
Exhaust should go to outside of van Most campers have vents through floor.. gas drop out vents. Allowing exhaust to come out in centre of van as shown here will cause hot poisonous exhaust fumes to build up under van and rise though these vents..
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Yet it doesn’t????
@campervansen-le-frith8517
@campervansen-le-frith8517 5 ай бұрын
You are wrong this is how VW fit the factory ones, and this is also the way the manufacturer recommends fitting. The small cut out in the undertray is for this purpose. Thanks for your input though, but definitely incorrect information.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
@@campervansen-le-frith8517 from the horses mouth too 😍
@fradaja
@fradaja 4 ай бұрын
And wrong!!,
@campervansen-le-frith8517
@campervansen-le-frith8517 4 ай бұрын
​@@fradaja Please enlighten me? This is how it is from the factory.
@KevinMcMillan
@KevinMcMillan 5 ай бұрын
A D2 heater will install into that space onto a single flat rib with no issues (not using the place) it also has a thick gasket that seals everything so ne need for sealant. It's lot less drilling big holes and IMO weaking the floor. I can only see this being useful like you said if you have a ply floor or something to keep things away from the hot exhaust but on a T5 and T6 under the seat its not needed at all. Not saying what you did was wrong its not just letting you and other know its doable without the massive plate / hole in the floor not to mention a decent metal hole saw that size for a one time use is not cheap. I have installed around 20 now without the plates. I did use a plate for a Merc build but drilled a lot of small holes rather than use a hole saw again just down to costs of a one time use tool.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
You can and I have installed the heater exactly the same as the d2. With a few small holes using the gasket as a template. But please don’t assume the floor to be ‘weakened’. A. It’s sheet metal and therefore not structural. And b. This position is literally surrounded by chassis members on all 4 sides. It couldn’t be any stronger. Isn’t the d2 a lot more money?
@KevinMcMillan
@KevinMcMillan 5 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland yeah I was just letting people know that this was an option for the t5 and t6 and it could save them a bit of time not to mention if they sell the van and remove the heater it's a bit easier to pop in a few plugs than covering that size of hole. I believe anything within 30cm of a mounting point like the seat is considered structural? Yeah I totally agree. The D2 is since it's the original manufacturer of the diesel heater design. I have installed a few of the 1st gen? Chinese diesel heaters and they work but I can't say I was that impressed with them tbh and I noticed they seem to fail a lot with motor issues and random errors. I can't talk for the one you installed or any of the newer heaters tbh it looks like a nice heater though and I like the controller it's a huge upgrade from the older Chinese heaters.
@campervansen-le-frith8517
@campervansen-le-frith8517 5 ай бұрын
The floor is so uneven in this location otherwise we would have fixed directly to the floor as described. That's is exactly how I do a Transit custom.
@KevinMcMillan
@KevinMcMillan 5 ай бұрын
@@campervansen-le-frith8517 the ribs in the floor line up and are the same width for the t5. Transit I can't say because I've never messed around with one but I have installed many in a t5 and t6 without the plate and fitting on a single rib in the floor
@frankiez7414
@frankiez7414 6 ай бұрын
I fitted a Chinese one for £150. Never had a problem with it.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Cool
@fradaja
@fradaja 4 ай бұрын
Does water build up in the muffler ?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 4 ай бұрын
No and no need for a hole 👍🏻👍🏻
@michaelg4931
@michaelg4931 5 ай бұрын
Can these be installed on end, with the 3" air intake/hot air vent at the bottom/top and the combustion air intake/exhaust port/fuel line on the side ? I've been looking for the information for quite some time but haven't found a credible source saying you can or cannot mount it that way. Thanks for sharing your install process.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
No mate. Definitely not. Must be horizontal. And as I mentioned regarding orientation 👍🏻
@michaelg4931
@michaelg4931 5 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland Thanks for the reply. I though it odd that the Webasto manual showed a diagram indicating it could be mounted like that.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
@@michaelg4931 oh. Well if the webasti says it can. Remember i am only speaking for this model. If it shows in the instructions I would say yes. NOT this unit though.
@michaelg4931
@michaelg4931 5 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland Your advice probably applies to the unit I have as well, it's a Chinese copy not an original Webasto.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
@@michaelg4931 oh then def fit horizontal.
@christophersherratt7299
@christophersherratt7299 7 ай бұрын
That's what i meant bud for the pump
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
That box is about £120 ha ha
@lukemessenger9531
@lukemessenger9531 7 ай бұрын
Can the heater be installed under the passengers seat, or is the outlets to awkward to run?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
I think that may land in the way of the fuel tank.
@lukemessenger9531
@lukemessenger9531 7 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking, the leisure battery is under the drivers so may need to fit the heater under the van 👍
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
@@lukemessenger9531 that bracket autoterm make is absolutely fine. 👍🏻👍🏻
@robertjames8909
@robertjames8909 6 ай бұрын
I notice you did not have fuel filter in the line
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
You do not need one. Please don’t aftermarket install one. 👍🏻
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Not necessary on vehicle fuel 👍🏻
@tztz1949
@tztz1949 4 ай бұрын
Thoughts on installing this under your van somewhere? Or on the roof?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 4 ай бұрын
Not in the roof. Under the van ok. See the intro on location. They make a bracket.
@mikefandango294
@mikefandango294 2 ай бұрын
Guess you couldn’t be arsed to watch the vlog and actually get the information provided on fitting it under the van ………on the roof 😂
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 2 ай бұрын
@@mikefandango294 this guy gets it
@bennwood4812
@bennwood4812 7 ай бұрын
Where abouts have you located the Clayton LPS mate?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
For the time being just under my seat. In truth… think it’s gonna end up a camper. So not committing to anything 👍🏻
@bennwood4812
@bennwood4812 7 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland under the front passenger seat or rear seats? I didn't think it would fit there. Might have solved my dilemma
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
@@bennwood4812 no no no. Wont further bud. Under my rear seats. Does show it in video 👍🏻 Have you purchased?
@bennwood4812
@bennwood4812 7 ай бұрын
@urbanarkoverland it was just a fleeting glimpse in the video that I couldn't have a proper butchers at it. Not purchases yet, I did speak with Mark Stinger when there was the uber sexy discount going down, but it would have spent absolutely ages being sat in the garage - and my wife might have helped deterred me at that moment in time 🤐 It's the next item on the list though. Just need to finalise to where to locate it now that the Steelpod is in situ
@AXISUK
@AXISUK 7 ай бұрын
Think the fuel pick up pipes are cut at 45 to reduce resistance of the fuel being sucked in? As you effectively making the hole bigger 🤔
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Nice 👍🏻
@christophersherratt7299
@christophersherratt7299 7 ай бұрын
Why did you not use the metal box for the fuel pump and wiring under the van with some insulation, you had it And there would be no noise at all with total protection ????😮😮
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
That box doesn’t allow for the fuel pump as well. So I would be in the same position but with the heater outside.
@DaeliaVanlife
@DaeliaVanlife Ай бұрын
The exaust has a hole that neeed to face down for moisture evacuation
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland Ай бұрын
Not needed 👍🏻
@philfromsalisbury4538
@philfromsalisbury4538 7 ай бұрын
Your exhaust muffler doesn't appear to have a condensation drain hole at the bottom ?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
I may have seen this somewhere. But direct from autoterm is that this is not necessary 👍🏻
@jotrutch
@jotrutch 6 ай бұрын
wires facing up is not a good way to decide on orientation -- its possible on many of these to switch the wires to the other side of the case, and then you'll have the whole thing upside down. the fuel inlet pipe has to be "up" thats the best way to keep track
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
Not on this unit it isn’t.
@jotrutch
@jotrutch 6 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland my mistake then... My knockoff has a cutout on the other side for switching wires
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
@@jotrutch haha ha. Ye. This is t the same. And thanks for not just being an ass and sticking your ya guns. Literally says in the instructions that that is how you decide orientation 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@jotrutch
@jotrutch 6 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland these things can be the best accessory you ever buy, or a giant headache... Just wanna make sure people get it right. I rely on one of these every night, and followed some bad instructions early on when installing, that kept me perplexed for months, thinking "I did everything right!" when I didn't. This orientation stuff wasn't one of the pitfalls for me but anyone like me that walks into this with only general skills could get snagged on these kinds of things. Anyway your vid is pretty clear it's for a specific unit, just assumed the imitations were the same. Thanks for the content, I'm sure it will be helpful to many
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
@@jotrutch ye. Had a few messages. Why isn’t there a hole in the exhaust etc. and followed the letter of the law. Contacted autoterm and they said it’s not needed. Autoterm director emailed me and said it’s the best install video he has seen. Exactly how it should be done. So I’m proud of that. Hope you’re sorted now.
@RustyMisterTwo
@RustyMisterTwo 5 ай бұрын
You made a mistake mate, the manual says the max distance from the fuel tank to the pump is 1000mm (1m) max. Certainly routing it over the entire fuel tank and to the side is longer than that ;)
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
Ye I’ve seen that. Think it’s worded ‘as short as possible’ The route I’ve chosen is fine. Works fine. This is how everyone does it. And signed off by autoterm. There is no reasonable place to put it within 1m
@kevinerickson2595
@kevinerickson2595 6 ай бұрын
Air in hose is for combustion
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
? Ye?
@james1466
@james1466 6 ай бұрын
Why no fuel filter? Are they not actually needed?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
No mate. Not on vehicle fuel. If you were in a boat or something maybe. But not advised in vehicle installation 👍🏻
@james1466
@james1466 6 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland sweet 👍 the angle of mine is probably the cause of my fueling issue. Will remove 😁
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
@@james1466 ye.
@thisoldrelic
@thisoldrelic 2 ай бұрын
Mine didn't even come with instructions.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 2 ай бұрын
Watch the video 😏
@hobocyclist
@hobocyclist Ай бұрын
Fun fact: Installing Chinese diesel heater to your VW diesel tank actually decreases emissions from VW TDI engines!
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland Ай бұрын
Not having that
@flybobbie1449
@flybobbie1449 7 ай бұрын
Notice the silencer has no drain hole.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Someone else mentioned this. Asked autoterm direct and they say it’s unnecessary 👍🏻👍🏻
@flybobbie1449
@flybobbie1449 7 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland Problem i had with the cheap Chinese heater, moisture rotted the exhaust pipe in 12 months, needed replacing so i coated new pipe in oil first to see if it would bake on. Heater now not working, i think lack of use, i need to clean it out, got code 10.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
@@flybobbie1449 yes. Run it once a month 👍🏻👍🏻
@flybobbie1449
@flybobbie1449 6 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland Found the rubber pipe as it enter fuel in feed pipe split due age, bit of a tight bend. Did buy 90 degree elbow to fit. All working now.
@bazbazzler188
@bazbazzler188 5 ай бұрын
Can you fit mine
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
Use email in the description 👍🏻
@campervansen-le-frith8517
@campervansen-le-frith8517 5 ай бұрын
I can yes 👍👍
@Jarv263
@Jarv263 5 ай бұрын
Why can’t you fit a different brand pump?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
Must be fuel rate or something. It’s an electrical item don’t forget. But if that’s straight from autoterm. Why would ya?
@Jarv263
@Jarv263 5 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland I wouldn’t buy a autoterm air heater, over priced in my opinion. I’ve got their engine preheater which is worth the money. I only asked because so many creators on KZbin have no idea about fuel dosage. I’ll bet that pump has 22 written on it?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
@@Jarv263 why would a KZbinr need to know about dosage. Seems like you are flexing with a piece of information you actually know. If you don’t see value for money then please enjoy your Amazon special 👍🏻
@Jarv263
@Jarv263 5 ай бұрын
@@urbanarkoverland you have a massive following, I thought 5mins of educating yourself on the pump would be sensible. Explaining to people why it’s not recommended to change the pump is better than just telling them they can’t. My “Amazon special” has been working great for the last 3 years, I’ll be doing its first service this spring. It’s nothing personal, I just see so many videos online claiming everyone is doing it wrong and they know best. It’s like the cable ties, so many vans are covered in them underneath when you can buy rubber covered stainless fuel line clips, that won’t rust or go brittle over time. I point out a small area of your video where I think you missed out important info and you come at me with attitude “Amazon special” do you really think your install is perfect?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
@@Jarv263 I’ll look forward to your video. 👍🏻
@angusdewar5933
@angusdewar5933 Ай бұрын
Exhaust really doesn't want to be exiting under the van
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland Ай бұрын
If it’s ok for vw it’s ok for me
@mikefandango294
@mikefandango294 2 ай бұрын
I’ve Just tapped into the fuel return line and saved, hours and hours of work. Been working fine for 8 mths
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 2 ай бұрын
What van?
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 7 ай бұрын
I may be wrong, but one more thing... Don't install the control at "eye level" (high up) .., especially if you have a higher top van. . Heat rises You may find your heater pulsing and you with cold feet? Bed level might be a good height?
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 7 ай бұрын
Ha. Ye. Although if you have a pop top. That’s where you would want it as that’s where you lose the heat. Each segment is a video in its own right try to give just enough. Thanks.
@dubious6718
@dubious6718 5 ай бұрын
First time I see anyone mount it outside, so I wouldn't say its normal.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
What do you mean? The alternative location. With the outside mount? It’s very popular
@petesmith9472
@petesmith9472 4 ай бұрын
The “Chinese” heaters are crap. I had one, used it once perfectly and it never worked again EO4 …. So I bought an entirely new unit…now the error is E01 with a healthy battery.
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 4 ай бұрын
E01 is overheating. If it’s a new unit and installed correctly it’s covered under warranty 👍🏻
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 4 ай бұрын
Sorry. Didn’t see that you said ‘Chinese’. Yes I agree. It seems to be a lottery being say they have had for years and never faulted. Some do not work out of the box 🤷🏼‍♂️
@raymondj8768
@raymondj8768 6 ай бұрын
OMG are you crazy $500.00 for this heater they are $150.00 all day long on Ebay some are cheaper !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 6 ай бұрын
They are not the same. You are comparing apples and pears.
@drQ11235
@drQ11235 5 ай бұрын
There is a lot of... baggies
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
Ha ha.
@user-ff2hi4op7v
@user-ff2hi4op7v 5 ай бұрын
What makes you an expert??...... You have got many things wrong........
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 5 ай бұрын
I’m not an expert. Just read the instructions. What’s wrong. Apart from your attitude.
@livelongandprosper70
@livelongandprosper70 2 ай бұрын
I run my diesel heater from my engine battery, I think it would flatten my leisure battery quickly, I run the engine in my motorhome while it's starting, consuming must power, till it quietenes after about 5 minutes, then I turn my engine off, so the power comes back to the habitation section of my fiat Ducato coach built motorhome..( stupid idea) anyway, how long can I run the diesel heater ( on low ) before it flattens the battery ? Thanks 🙏
@urbanarkoverland
@urbanarkoverland 2 ай бұрын
Hi. Thats dependant on soooo many different variants. Almost impossible to say as your vehicle battery will not have monitoring.
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