Heavier Can Be Better - E-flite Draco Review

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Heavier wing loading can fly better than you think. It doesn't have to be a feather to fly well. Draco is heavy, for sure, but you wouldn't think it was if you got on the sticks and ripped it up on a 4000 pack. If you passed on Draco because "it can't hover" or "it's too heavy" wormed into your head, take a watch and see what it's really capable of - and if you like what you see, pick it up via the affiliate links below to support what we do at no additional charge:
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0:00 Intro
0:49 Wing Loading & Stall Testing
1:57 Super Simple Setup
2:20 Thrust Reverse & Electrical Tape
3:01 Battery Choices vs Wing Loading
4:10 Review Criteria
5:20 Some Downsides
6:50 TwoBros Score

Пікірлер: 83
@baughboom
@baughboom 11 ай бұрын
How refreshing. I’m so tired of hearing from the Haters Club who seem compelled to speak out every time anyone says “Draco”. They’re so disappointed with it. Everyone at their club has sold theirs, heavy wing load, etc. I don’t care if someone doesn’t like the plane and chooses not to own one. But I’m weary from the complaints. Some guy’s days just don’t seem to be complete until they’ve trashed on the Draco a bit. So thanks for the video.
@brendanshroyer7696
@brendanshroyer7696 10 ай бұрын
There's a guy at my club who has one, and it's just gorgeous.
@coryturner9140
@coryturner9140 4 ай бұрын
One of the best flying airplanes I’ve flown. It’s solid!
@BrianPhillipsRC
@BrianPhillipsRC 10 ай бұрын
@ 2:28 - my favorite clip ;) LOL LOL LOL ...but to be fair, we fly in a much tighter spot. Your taxiway (RC runway) must be 1500+ ft feet? Ours is only 275 feet, with a bit of a drop off, so more like 250 feet and our tree line is at either end VS your "alley of trees" along either side of the length of the clearing...which in and of itself presents some interesting challenges and advantages. Some time, when you're passing through Iowa, you need to come fly our strip and you'll see why I get so dang giddy about Thrust Reverse. It's realy a game changer for short runways!
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 10 ай бұрын
Happy to see you didn't take it as a jab at ya. We think you're a good guy! Definitely interested in taking up your offer to fly at your place sometime. Reach out via our business inquiries if you ever want to stay in touch. With regard to the airport, we definitely have an advantage over where you're flying - except that our trees are significantly taller and much more numerous. You've got a tight space. Hoping to see you pave a runway in that big field behind your house. That should be a lot more enjoyable to fly from!
@brianturner4215
@brianturner4215 11 ай бұрын
Best Draco video out right now! Thanks for pointing out all your reasoning for the score! Love the Brian Phillips pun! I remember watching his Draco video when it came out.
@ModelAV8RChannel
@ModelAV8RChannel 11 ай бұрын
They are stunning for sure. The most scale foam plane ever made probably, and the lights are freaking awesome! I agree on the lighter packs, I flew mine on 3700's. Nice flying!
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Adam!
@gmorphan
@gmorphan 11 ай бұрын
I'm committed to the Draco...having bought way more of them than a sane person should.🙄 As for landing, Kavan air tires and most importantly...I replaced the spring in one shock on each side to a softer spring from Ace Hardware. This gives the gear more compliance and smooths out bouncing a lot. The tires actually help reduce "grab" on runway surfaces, thus reducing stress on the carbon fiber gear.
@27niner
@27niner 11 ай бұрын
Jon, you are one of the few reviewers worth listening too. Great wrap and totally agree with your Draco commentary. Mine wheelers fine on short grass. I’ll get a clip to you.🙏👍
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see it!
@AL-RCjunkie
@AL-RCjunkie 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't really care what the Draco-haters say. It's on my Mt. Rushmore of planes to get some day. I've seen some pretty spectacular crashes of them. And they always seem to be right back in the air-no matter how much bad mouthing the pilot does during the process. Great video, Jon 👍 Thanks!
@erikshute7153
@erikshute7153 11 ай бұрын
Best Draco flying on you tube right here! Nice work Jon!
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@Joe_Zajac
@Joe_Zajac 11 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@nirlachman007
@nirlachman007 11 ай бұрын
The Draco is fun and great as long as you know what to expect from it 🙌🏻
@ficosk8
@ficosk8 11 ай бұрын
Nice, again :D I was also thinking about to increase exponential on my elevator. Yesterday night I finished repairing and reinforcing my carbon landing gear with epoxy and glass fibers. I did a hard bump and it twisted and cracked. I haven't too much flights, but have done them on 6000, 5200 and 3300. The last one probably saved my plane from crashing while recovering her over a forest after accidentally activating reverse thrust :S Best regards from south Germany/Bavaria
@Joe_Zajac
@Joe_Zajac 11 ай бұрын
Massive ironing boards for wings! Great line!
@ILLSMOQ
@ILLSMOQ 11 ай бұрын
Another great Video! Thanks!
@calircpilot4261
@calircpilot4261 11 ай бұрын
I own one and loved it the minute the box arrived to my house. My two,humble cents are that HH should already have developed a true damping set of shocks (oil filled?) to,replace the spring loaded ones in the original model since these do a total disservice to this incredible design from Mike Patey and the astonishing work from The designers of this RC model. This plane deserves a suspension at same the level of everything in this awesome aircraft model.
@rafaeltorres2886
@rafaeltorres2886 11 ай бұрын
I love your thoughtful insight on how to fly properly the Draco, I will follow your advice. Please review ARF balsa planes.
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
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@waynemiller6070
@waynemiller6070 11 ай бұрын
That flat spin at 3:17 was awesome.
@paanglin
@paanglin 10 ай бұрын
Outstanding shipmate. Press on. USS Kitty Hawk CV-63. Jan 1980 to July 1983. RC`er for life. and maybe after I am dead too.
@Mikeylikesit1968
@Mikeylikesit1968 11 ай бұрын
When you said Brian Phillips, I started laughing 😅
@BullFrog96
@BullFrog96 11 ай бұрын
Shots fired hard in this episode
@airhammer6203
@airhammer6203 11 ай бұрын
Way to show that this Dragon has some teeth. Now if someone could just get it to spit fire..... Great flying Jon. AirHammer out!!
@HAWAII-uh7sc
@HAWAII-uh7sc 4 ай бұрын
Aloha love to watch you fly. You are sure talented. Also, wouldn't mind hearing more on unlocking Your receivers
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 4 ай бұрын
Join us on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and we'll happily help out.
@old-rcplane-phart
@old-rcplane-phart 11 ай бұрын
Thrust reverse is more fun flying! Complete stop to reverse coming out of a hammer-head! No guts, no glory👍😁🤷‍♂️
@old-rcplane-phart
@old-rcplane-phart 11 ай бұрын
Reflew my twin timber yesterday, with the dual 13x4 (apc) propeller swap. Got bored & did some thrust reversing. U can do some really extreme stuff with a twin motor in reverse!😁🤪
@adamrodgers2377
@adamrodgers2377 11 ай бұрын
Its a Badass Scale Model, we love ours also! 🤙🏼
@thereal-stl_slim
@thereal-stl_slim 8 ай бұрын
I would like to collect all of Mike's planes scrappy looks fun
@mfh9780
@mfh9780 11 ай бұрын
Morning! Nice video. Thanks for the review. Found my Draco flies better light with a 4000 6s battery.
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
Likewise, the 4000 class packs seem to perform best for us as well.
@mfh9780
@mfh9780 11 ай бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC I could be wrong but I think the plane should be a tiny bit tail heavy. I did the “just plane crazy” gear mod to beef up the main gear. Battery had to be shifted all the way back and I added 1 1/2 oz of tail weight to the horizontal stabilizer. Also removed the 20 oz dubro wheels that I previously installed and use kavan balloon wheels that are similar in weight to the eflite tires, around 5 oz. Plane flies great now. Thanks again for the video.
@gmorphan
@gmorphan 11 ай бұрын
@@mfh9780 I agree with the Kavan tire swap. Weight is Draco's achilles heel and should be avoided whenever possible.
@jimmyhaley727
@jimmyhaley727 11 ай бұрын
the elevator control horn broke on mine and suffered some crash damage, been at RC since I left the USN back in 1965, not a nob RCer, asked for some replacement parts and got NO answer or parts, glued it back and still flying it ( replaced all horns with REAL aluminum ones-no problems)
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
That's odd. HH isn't known for denying warranty service.
@rcLawnDartPilot
@rcLawnDartPilot 11 ай бұрын
Somebody that actually agrees with me that it's not flimsy. For tires I replaced the stock ones with DuBro 6 inch balloon tires and deflated them enough to create a flat spot while parked. This added a bit of weight and required me to go with no higher than 4000 mah Batts. Takes all of the bouncing out of my wheel landings.
@SakkusMind
@SakkusMind 11 ай бұрын
The Draco is just a beauty! How do you usally transport those big planes? Also how do you unlock the receiver?
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGTMpJWsZrprm68 We just remove the wings and put it together at the field.
@rafaeltorres2886
@rafaeltorres2886 11 ай бұрын
I bought one from the first batch and mine is still in the box ,I just have too many planes , no were to store them but I will eventually fly it.
@billbollinger7305
@billbollinger7305 11 ай бұрын
😂 and I thought I had way to many! Lol got 9 hanging and 8 more in box's plus spare room full. Lol got 42
@JC-td4gg
@JC-td4gg 8 ай бұрын
I still wish Horizon would come out with a smaller version of this awesome plane as they do with other models.
@northernfpv9562
@northernfpv9562 5 ай бұрын
I have one and have flown it a few times, but it's a hangar queen because it's too pretty to crash!
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 5 ай бұрын
Crash it once and then you'll just throw it around like we do. One year review coming up soon, with some bush flying mixed in!
@adamcline8041
@adamcline8041 11 ай бұрын
hey Jon, kinda unrelated, but I'm curious, have you heard any story about the abandoned Ryan Navion I see in the background of your videos? I always hate to see cool vintage aircraft just sitting out in a field like that
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
It's owned by a guy at the airport everyone calls "Air Boss" who hoards stuff. It's been sitting out there for years now. It's in pretty poor shape.
@Joe_Zajac
@Joe_Zajac 11 ай бұрын
I installed heavy pneumatic tires on mine. Now it only bounces once! LOL
@jeffoh5787
@jeffoh5787 9 ай бұрын
Hi Jon! Which SMC battery would you recommend for this plane? I just picked up a brand new Draco from a guy for $350! I was looking at the SMC 6s 4400mah HV. Any issues running a HV pack on this plane?
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 9 ай бұрын
The 4400 and 3600 are both solid choices!
@spacecadet1249
@spacecadet1249 4 ай бұрын
I've had one of these for two years and the Tail-wheel has been a nightmare! You simply cannot steer it while on the ground! The linkage between the Rudder and Tail-wheel has always slipped and will not tighten properly. And while E-Flight and Horizon Hobby have top-notch customer service, they haven't a clue how to fix this issue. Other than that, this plane is a dream to fly.
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 4 ай бұрын
We never ran into that issue once. Sorry to hear you had a rough go of it!
@Letsroll000
@Letsroll000 6 ай бұрын
I have never flown this plane and I'm new to the this world of RC airplanes. But I heard this plane likes to land with some throttle and is not the biggest glider, do you share the same thoughts?
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 6 ай бұрын
You can see it landing with minimal or no thrust several times here. It'll glide well if you're descending with it.
@DanielLy1200
@DanielLy1200 8 ай бұрын
Can you show how to hook up the LEDs into the light module? Mine got unplugged and I can't find a schematic anywhere
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 8 ай бұрын
Our advice would be to plug them in one at a time until they work how you think they should.
@Lopez_rc
@Lopez_rc 11 ай бұрын
I have an eflite carbon-Z Yak54, it easily flies on 7000mah lipos
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
Guarantee it would fly significantly better on a 4,000 pack. :)
@revsonsrc9573
@revsonsrc9573 11 ай бұрын
It’s such a gorgeous bird. It’s definitely not the list lol
@itzjoeylo4501
@itzjoeylo4501 11 ай бұрын
I just ordered five different colors of 1 1/2” width electrical tape lol
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
It's so useful for so many things.
@itzjoeylo4501
@itzjoeylo4501 11 ай бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC I was using colored packing tape for years, now because of you. I’m in with Electrical Tape lol
@sirreginaldwilliams
@sirreginaldwilliams 10 ай бұрын
I prefer flying mine on a 3200
@ror-ys3qp
@ror-ys3qp 11 ай бұрын
It will not survive hard landings on the landing gear. The carbon fiber landing gear is a false indication of strength because the carbon landing gear is mounted to 4 very thin plastic tubes in the fuselage.If you land it properly for a heavy plane you will be fine.
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
That should be the way you're landing to begin with. It's an aircraft, not a monster truck. 😅
@ror-ys3qp
@ror-ys3qp 11 ай бұрын
@TwoBrosRC true but everyone is not as skilled as you
@jaybui7506
@jaybui7506 8 күн бұрын
Can I use this airplane as a trainer?
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 8 күн бұрын
Wouldn't recommend it.
@wizardz7938
@wizardz7938 11 ай бұрын
Wrong Landing gear are a weak point. snapped mine in have landing a foot of the ground on and landed on one wheel.... after the upgrade kit was instaled ZERO mishaps.!!!!
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
They might be a weak point for you if you're slamming it into the ground - but be aware that it's an airplane, not a monster truck. It has to be flown to the ground, not dropped on it.
@RubyS.1
@RubyS.1 11 ай бұрын
No you
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
No U
@terrordactyl4425
@terrordactyl4425 11 ай бұрын
Hi Dee Ho
@carbonEYE007
@carbonEYE007 10 ай бұрын
I have ethical concerns with the name Draco As we now see that name means something worse than the devil itself, a legion of them.
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 10 ай бұрын
Lol wut
@carbonEYE007
@carbonEYE007 10 ай бұрын
Lol, perspective is needed: The Draconians. The originators of the word we heard on the news to describe vile acts towards mankind. think the deep state of the deep state. The ones behind the cloaks at the rituals at the bohemian grove . The child trafficking Reptiles It’s the only real thing keeping me from buying the plane., lol But what do I know, I bought edf as a first plane haha A fms 64mm f35v2 Upon wich the Esc fried on the first pack and it spiraled into the ground. I just had to go 4cell and the Esc did not like it
@djinn201
@djinn201 10 ай бұрын
Wind loading square rooting dog poop while what🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣
@habiks
@habiks 10 ай бұрын
Get kavan inflatable tires (pretty much same weight as original hard foam) for smoother landings.
@old_coastie
@old_coastie 11 ай бұрын
Finally a fair eval... old_coastie
@TwoBrosRC
@TwoBrosRC 11 ай бұрын
We strive to be fair!
@johnthomas1348
@johnthomas1348 8 ай бұрын
Nice review Jon. Your comments about landing on pavement reminded me of how my 84” EF turbo bushmaster did the same. Switching to 6” kavans helped but not consistent. I have found that landing with wing in crow configuration, the upward throw of both ailerons keep the wheels planted to runway.
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