Heavy Clubs

[@ScottieBeans63]

I got to disagree with you on heavy clubs and maces. My shoulders have always been my weak point thanks in part to sports injuries 20+ years ago. Clubs and maces are a tonic to my shoulders and they've built size and strength in them. For the first time my shoulders look like I work them lol. Also, I know you're a big kettlebell guy. I'm always told the "magic" in kettlebells is its off center weight. Clubs and especially maces the weight is far more off center and the leverages are killer. To each their own I guess.

[@jbrown6367]

Same. Great for rehab.

[@jvm-tv]

People are different and there's no hard science on a lot of aspects of fitness. Just try things, listen to your body and see how it responds, if you like them then asks other coaches who also like them for more advice.

[@zachupton3647]

Heavy clubs are just another tool for my swiss army knife of fitness 💪

[@DanJohnStrengthCoach]

Okay.

[@theunicornwrangler3933]

would you explain why you "just don't like them."?

[@DanJohnStrengthCoach]

I just don’t. I don’t see any value to them. But do what you like.

[@richardcaro3368]

Some people like it and some people don't just do what you love to do

[@XxANXxful]

Hello Dan, As always, love your content and approach to teaching. You're a huge inspiration to me! I wonder what your take is on the range of motion the club takes your shoulder through, and whether you think it is necessary for a stronger and healthier shoulder? From following your material, it's become apparent that you sometimes tend to not advocate certain movements(i.e goodmornings), if the risk to reward ratio isn't in line with the needs of the group. Question: Is this part of your thought process on why you don't like heavy clubs?

[@InternetGoSchool]

I do respect you saying you don’t like Heavy Clubs, but I had hope you could had given us a bit more on your reasoning. I had the impression this is not just a hunch or personal preference, but you didn’t elaborate on it, which would had been nice to hear.

[@DanJohnStrengthCoach]

Fair enough! Let's talk about them again in a decade.

[@InternetGoSchool]

I can wait :D

[@InternetGoSchool]

@@DanJohnStrengthCoach If I recall correctly you have a background as throwing couch, so I would had assumed heavy clubs as „loaded“ movement pattern would be just down your alley. I am really curious why you don’t like them and maybe even more so why you are so restrained to express your thoughts to openly.

[@DanJohnStrengthCoach]

I’m very good in the Highland Games hammer. I’ve won a lot of major competitions doing it. The problem with anything that people fall in love with on the Internet is that people instantly turn into either completely for something or completely against it. It becomes very divisive. Clubbells and Maces came back for the second or third time in my life, I decided I just don’t wanna get part of it. I’m not gonna take a CERT on it. I’m not gonna fight over the intricacies of it nor am I gonna get involved in it. it’s like a couple other exercises. I don’t like to discuss. Never seen seen an athlete improve on exercises AB or C but I’ve seen a lot of athletes and prove on increasing their clean jerk or they’re dead lift or squat.

[@InternetGoSchool]

@@DanJohnStrengthCoach thank you for sharing. I thought that might be the reasoning. The Internet is a wonderful thing, but can also be a very odd place to discuss thoughts. Btw I would find it odd, if you did make any CERT. Maybe aside of a highly qualifying CERT in enjoying life itself. :D

[@fishtung]

I get you dont like them. but is it because they carry more risk for injury's? or do you think they are ineffective?

[@DanJohnStrengthCoach]

That's a good question. I would said, "mostly," I just see them as something that keeps coming and going in the field. I've seen the old books, the Royal PT courses and all the rest, but I think we have far better tools today.

[@jimjohns5274]

Awesome! Thanks for speaking to my questions.

[@DanJohnStrengthCoach]

Any time!

[@barriestrengthcoach]

Thanks Dan! As always great content.. I’ll never understand the need for people to shoot for the answer they want. I’m not into clubs either… between calisthenics, kettlebells, the odd heavy lift, and playing with some odd objects (carries and walks) I genuinely think that covers it. Personally I’m finding most value in Bodyweight feats at this particular time in my life.. PS.. I own and operate a Kettlebell Club (my gym business).. BUT if someone uses clubs maces and really enjoys it or find it helps - Way to go!! Good for you.. coaches are allowed not to like things based on their experience and expertise. It is what it is. Done

[@ctowen5222]

Well that’s disappointing to learn.

[@DanJohnStrengthCoach]

What are you referring to here? The "that" of this point.

[@ctowen5222]

@@DanJohnStrengthCoach that you don’t like club bell training.

[@jay31san]

@@ctowen5222 I just searched Dan John and clubells and had my heart broken.

[@bumpyshorts]

He isnt saying you shouldn't do the training, just that it isn't for him

[@ctowen5222]

@@bumpyshorts No one said he did