Heavy Oil Leak Bandaid Failure. But Why Did It Crack? 13 Ford 350 5.4L

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Wrenching With Kenny

Wrenching With Kenny

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@NickMyers1
@NickMyers1 2 ай бұрын
Repaired a crack ages ago on a Lincoln Town Car 4.6 - block cracked from someone running straight water in cold of winter - but it cracked in the valley of the engine - bought car cheap like that. Removed intake. drilled holes to stop crack. grinder to clean area up. sanded with coarse grit. used alcohol or something to clean area. packed with JB weld. Fixed. Drove car like that for many hundreds of miles no issue. Trying to weld a cast iron block is a nightmare.
@chuckvoss9344
@chuckvoss9344 2 ай бұрын
Yes. If it was MY engine ... die grinder, brake clean then JB.
@mrhamburger6936
@mrhamburger6936 2 ай бұрын
The mystery of the cracked block
@n1umj
@n1umj 2 ай бұрын
I knew a guy, he raced at a local short oval track who had a similar crack in the block. He couldn't afford an engine so he did the JB weld thing. He figured it was worth a try but never expected it to hold the following race week. He actually got a season and a half out of it before he bought another guy out with an all round better engine. For all I know that engine is still out there as a spare to this day, I'll have to ask him next time I talk to him. He could not believe it held but I've seen so much worse. Knowing him it's either still his spare or one of his friends has it.
@donmunro144
@donmunro144 2 ай бұрын
I've used a product called belzona with success. It's expensive but works great. In fact, cat recommended it for cylinder deck repair on a 3512 engine that I used to maintain. As far as I know, it's still there.
@iFixJunk
@iFixJunk 2 ай бұрын
I'm familiar with Belzona, but not for an application like that. Their tech support will guide you through certain..."off-label" uses, though. It IS expensive, but if you research the product and learn how it came into development and use, it's pretty impressive.
@donmunro144
@donmunro144 2 ай бұрын
Another option is called Lock-N-Stitch. I fixed a cracked boat engine 4 years old. Boat gets used every weekend and hasn't leaked a drop. A little labor intensive, but way less than an engine swap
@robertpulliam9973
@robertpulliam9973 2 ай бұрын
I had a 1956 Allis Chalmers tractor that I was rebuilding, all new parts, my brother-in-law decided to “help” me with the assembly of the engine while I was at work. Service manual was right there but he knew better and assembled the engine like a SB Chevy, WRONG!! The wrist pins “floated” in the rods and were bolted to the pistons, were Siamesed on the crankshaft. Later after everything was done he started the engine and immediately heard noises that it wasn’t supposed to make. Upon disassembly the number 3 cylinder was found to be deeply scored from the wrist that was assembled wrong. Removing no.3 cylinder assembly, cleaning the liner thoroughly I mixed enough JBWeld to put a light coat in the groove to let it cure overnight. The next 2 days I did the same until I had built it up above the liner surface beside it. I then slowly started to hone the cylinder until there was nothing but a dark line in the bore, you couldn’t feel any imperfection. I then reassembled the engine according to the book while dear brother in law watched. The repair was still holding solid 13 years later when I sold the tractor, I became a true believer in JBWeld at that point. Point is never ever let a brother in law work on anything you really need.
@robertpulliam9973
@robertpulliam9973 2 ай бұрын
😊pin
@LumpyFPV
@LumpyFPV 2 ай бұрын
It's pretty amazing what some good ol' JB Weld can do for a fella when it's appropriate. Good call not using it on this rig though, Kenny.
@joemuncie9187
@joemuncie9187 2 ай бұрын
I've had good luck with JB Weld
@mikeburdi3464
@mikeburdi3464 2 ай бұрын
Get the block properly welded. I can't see much value in the vehicle at over 200, 000 miles so I would go the cheapest most reliable route possible I hope you and Mrs. Wrenching are getting much better kenny!
@bigdaddymak1439
@bigdaddymak1439 2 ай бұрын
Just flex seal it Kenny 😂😂😂
@robertdiehl9003
@robertdiehl9003 2 ай бұрын
Hydrolock diagnosis. Awesome find. Makes sense since liquid can't be compressed.
@rharris7635
@rharris7635 2 ай бұрын
Definitely safety first, $ second, especially for a business and children.
@Failure_Is_An_Option
@Failure_Is_An_Option 2 ай бұрын
Awwww... the chilren... Always hide behind the fleshy meat curtain that is the chilren...
@johnknox5692
@johnknox5692 2 ай бұрын
tig weld with silica bronze, or alum bronze, its rated at 40000-70000 psi., easy place to get to wide open,
@scottymoondogjakubin4766
@scottymoondogjakubin4766 2 ай бұрын
Im buying stock in JB weld after seeing that ! 😛
@barmanvarn
@barmanvarn 2 ай бұрын
At least they didn’t use spray foam LOL
@lynnlutjen3819
@lynnlutjen3819 2 ай бұрын
If I was your customer I would have the JB weld trick done and send it to the auction house. 200k it’s on the down hill side of life 👍👍
@glennfields8121
@glennfields8121 2 ай бұрын
This was a good find my brother. Keep Wrenching brother.
@richardroach9030
@richardroach9030 2 ай бұрын
At that point, go for the guts and glory drill that spot out re JB weld it called it done.
@maraudersr1043
@maraudersr1043 2 ай бұрын
Weld it shut!
@dondownriver3464
@dondownriver3464 2 ай бұрын
Heat that part of the block up and reweld it.
@mikeburdi3464
@mikeburdi3464 2 ай бұрын
@@dondownriver3464 That's what I say. I have seen many blocks welded (properly) and never have a problem.
@paulschlobohm7226
@paulschlobohm7226 2 ай бұрын
Your a good man. Good decision
@grominwithrob1339
@grominwithrob1339 2 ай бұрын
Of course he used silicone, he was all out of grape flavored big league chew. 😂🤣😂🤣
@maddawgnoll
@maddawgnoll 2 ай бұрын
I was walking down to my shop when i read the thumbnail writing and nearly tripped from shock at what it reads
@terryjohnston7162
@terryjohnston7162 2 ай бұрын
Clean it up add another layer of JB and go another 240
@iFixJunk
@iFixJunk 2 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking 😂
@Toolaholic7
@Toolaholic7 2 ай бұрын
I always make sure there is no coolant and oil in headbolt holes in the block cleaning them out good.Know very well learned fluids take shape they are in and do not compress back in school
@82_KID
@82_KID 2 ай бұрын
Shout out to that AX4S trans! Our Taurus had one of those. Nice. 1:13
@bricktop7803
@bricktop7803 2 ай бұрын
Yup - they got a cousin called Wayne who said he could fix the block with JB Weld.....
@allynhowell2006
@allynhowell2006 2 ай бұрын
The customer needs to have a person JB weld it and trade in at a rip off car lot as quickly as possible.😮 I'm guessing it's a factory void block,I've seen before. Did you do a oil pressure test ?
@peterbenson3776
@peterbenson3776 2 ай бұрын
Seemed like a good stop-gap considering the miles /age of the engine.
@donniee1934
@donniee1934 2 ай бұрын
Don't JB it. Clean it good undercut the crack with a die grinder and use Belzona. Past experience with sealing cast-iron steam jackets on heat exchangers. 100PSI steam pressure and no leaks. Hope you and Mrs. Wrenching are doing better.
@bigbill709
@bigbill709 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Kenny keep wrenching
@dennisvandergriff7757
@dennisvandergriff7757 2 ай бұрын
Thanks sir interesting vedio. 👍 I put new plugs and plug wires on 217 yukon denali. I'm 67, never seen or heard of this before, as one of the spark plug wires would pop, or unclip as soon as you remove your hand from the plug wire. I had to go back to GM dealer to get that plug wire replaced. What is up with the quality parts now days from MEXICO. 😢
@michaelmartin2276
@michaelmartin2276 2 ай бұрын
Heck with the age and miles on this van I'd clean and sand the Crack as good as possible and jb weld the helloutta it !
@wesshofner9495
@wesshofner9495 2 ай бұрын
If it was mine I would clean it down to metal and weld it.the motor sounds good.
@keithrimmer3
@keithrimmer3 2 ай бұрын
Could you clean it up and braze it up?
@RussellBooth1977
@RussellBooth1977 2 ай бұрын
I know about 5 years & 8 months ago when I removed the cylinder head gaskets in my 5.7 litre Chevrolet LS1 V8 engine in my Holden Commodore I blew any engine coolant which was in the bolt holes out with compressed air prior to fitting the cylinder head gaskets & new cylinder head bolts. Apparently what happens if you don't do that the water which gets trapped underneath the cylinder head bolts boils when the engine is hot & since the steam generated has nowhere to go it acts like a pressure cooker then it can crack the engine block. I would get the engine block welded by someone who can weld cast iron,I certainly wouldn't use JB Weld on a customers vehicles engine although the metal reinforced type of metal filler may do the job, it's just JB weld doesn't seem to do well when the engine gets really hot & it's exposed to engine oil,I mean if it's used inside of the engine. I know that I cracked the right hand front corner of the aluminium alloy oil pan so I got a welder to TIG weld that corner of the oil pan,some people do use JB weld to try and fix that but I wasn't confident that it would hold & I didn't want to get underneath the car to rip the oil pan off again to fix it properly the second time. The car was unregistered at the time & I didn't want it to fail the blue slip inspection which is required in New South Wales in Australia whenever the car is to be registered & if it's been unregistered for more than 3 months. They're also required if the engine is replaced to make sure that the donor engine isn't stolen, it's required when a change of engine number needs to be lodged with the Roads and Maritime service !
@CajunShrek
@CajunShrek 2 ай бұрын
Sand and JB weld
@gerardtrigo380
@gerardtrigo380 2 ай бұрын
Back in my day I saw people weld cracks closed on cast iron engines. I do not know if that would work on aluminum block engines or if it was even feasible.
@scottwhitcher265
@scottwhitcher265 2 ай бұрын
It's easier to do a quality weld on aluminum than cast iron but both CAN be welded by soneone who knows what they're doing.
@mackendw
@mackendw 2 ай бұрын
could they remove that silicone, clean the metal off good and grind the crack a bit and weld it closed?
@mattbrown5511
@mattbrown5511 2 ай бұрын
Ford's 5.4L strikes again.
@InTime-x3j
@InTime-x3j 2 ай бұрын
Darn good theory. I would have guessed a junkyard engine.
@btwbrand
@btwbrand 2 ай бұрын
Clean it off, grind it, braze it, paint it. Common sense. It's literally just metal. It's always fixable.
@whiskeyfamily6717
@whiskeyfamily6717 2 ай бұрын
I would jb weld it agin run it tell it blows then replace engine
@mtut
@mtut 2 ай бұрын
Whatever they used to band-aid it is part of the equation. You'd pretty much have to take it off to see what the metal looks like. With these monkey snot repairs, the adhesion to the metal is never 100% and oil can travel under it pretty far from the source. That would be my biggest problem agreeing that the block is cracked. With such a large patch on there it's hard to definitively rule out the intake and head gaskets.
@oldbiker9739
@oldbiker9739 2 ай бұрын
is it time to stich that block ? I have fixed leaking oil gallery plugs and oil gallery pipe plugs , but a cracked block NO I haven't .
@seanmoore1809
@seanmoore1809 2 ай бұрын
I worked on one leaking oil just like this and leaking from headgasket there is oil pressure supply feed there
@ewconway
@ewconway 2 ай бұрын
Who the heck JB Welds a cracked block? Incredible
@carlm2590
@carlm2590 2 ай бұрын
A person that does not have the money for a new engine
@glennpham2763
@glennpham2763 2 ай бұрын
Is that wrong?
@nigelstewart4736
@nigelstewart4736 2 ай бұрын
Engine runs good. Clean that crap off and weld / patch it up.
@RustyorBroken
@RustyorBroken 2 ай бұрын
I once repaired a broken crank using nothing but paper mache and Popsicle sticks.
@Uber_Soldat
@Uber_Soldat 2 ай бұрын
Isn’t it possible for a TIG-welder to fix that crack?
@paisleyprince5280
@paisleyprince5280 2 ай бұрын
Stupid isn't stupid if it worked.
@Sctronic209
@Sctronic209 2 ай бұрын
I would have it welded.
@RobertYonng
@RobertYonng 2 ай бұрын
It can be fixed but is it worth it unlike the Indian engine block with a broken main in the block. 😉
@ginog5037
@ginog5037 2 ай бұрын
Take it to a professional welder or clean it up and JB weld it. With that milage and carrying kids, scrap the van...
@karachaffee3343
@karachaffee3343 2 ай бұрын
Trowell in another layer of Doc Fonebone's Block Mend-R and all will be fine.
@DavoShed
@DavoShed 2 ай бұрын
That’s the second worst silicone job I’ve ever seen. 🤠 It’s got a crack in it. Unbelievable. If I did that I’d be worried about “repercussions” if you know what I mean.
@WrenchingWithKenny
@WrenchingWithKenny 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree! Thanks for watching the channel & keep wrenching 🔧
@fubartotale3389
@fubartotale3389 2 ай бұрын
Jeez, some people right? Everybody knows that's what spray foam is for!
@donaldboley771
@donaldboley771 2 ай бұрын
That's not the only leak.
@82_KID
@82_KID 2 ай бұрын
J-B Weld that thing, let it harden and drive away.
@teddymullins3706
@teddymullins3706 2 ай бұрын
Could a guy take And clean the area real good And weld it with a nickel rod if that's cast iron that might work ,I welded cast iron with nickel rods before and they held
@Failure_Is_An_Option
@Failure_Is_An_Option 2 ай бұрын
Where is this cast iron you speak of...
@teddymullins3706
@teddymullins3706 2 ай бұрын
On the exhaust manifold
@bigbill709
@bigbill709 2 ай бұрын
Another vote for weld err up .
@craigdowney6438
@craigdowney6438 2 ай бұрын
my dads car had an exhaust leak. he insisted that the gaskets were in perfect condition so to "fix" the leak, he put JB all over the edge. it actually worked for about a week but then slowly started melting. he still believed there was no problem with the gaskets and that car went to the crusher with the original gaskets.
@mandragor85
@mandragor85 2 ай бұрын
i think that goes like a hidden fault if he did buy it like that...
@mandragor85
@mandragor85 2 ай бұрын
yeah do those things on your own car then if something happen only you are getting hurt if you do it on someone else's car and they get hurt because of it then you're liable for it
@robertdiehl9003
@robertdiehl9003 2 ай бұрын
I almost guarantee that Permatex gray high temp sealant was used That product is absolutely junk beyond belief and doesn't work . I used the same stuff for power steering hose and made a huge mess.
@tombeilman5579
@tombeilman5579 2 ай бұрын
Everybody knows you use spray foam on an engine
@dennisrutherford6973
@dennisrutherford6973 2 ай бұрын
Wow I've never seen that before....what in the world where they thinking
@OCHO.008
@OCHO.008 2 ай бұрын
i get dirty too, and very surprised to see this on such model, these china metals are tricked up brother, also, prayed for miss wrench here, love cars, i just do not work for any 🔩. enjoy the fun!
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