Heavy Rain: A Laughably Stupid Interactive Movie Game

Heavy Rain is the original big movie video game. It has not aged well
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[@RTGame]

I heavily debated calling this A Man Who Hates Bad Writing Plays Heavy Rain. It is absolutely bad writing, but the game is so absolutely bad and stupid that I felt calling it that would be letting it off easy hahaha. It's mad to think that this game was so critically acclaimed back in the day

[@gaspardp7314]

Looking back at kid me thinking it was so cool, I want to make my younger self commit a Jason. Although I was too lazy to watch a full let's play so I just watched an endings compilation and tried to piece the story from that

[@anonymous71207]

honestly, it was probably the novelty of it that convinced people (and the graphical quality), and when that fades away all you get is... this.

[@turt2160]

I knew nothing about this game before watching this video. After seeing the opening cutscene and seeing your title, I genuinely thought that this game was a parody of overdramatic interactive movies. Honestly, I only found out it wasn’t the case when Jason died lol 😂

[@avoxprime9562]

I believe this game had good ideas and the whole video game/movie hybrid was completely new for the industry. I think this game broke ground for the genre of interactive story games. Regardless of the bad story telling, it came out at the right time similar to Avatar and it's amazing cgi, but does anyone care about Avatar's writing? No, it's forgettable and pretty bad. This game should be remembered as an innovative video game where you can turn your brain off and ignore all of the ridiculous writing decisions.

[@MLGHazrad]

RT please play Beyond 2 Souls, another banger of a game, made by yours truly, David Cage, as well as Indigo Prophecy. Play all the David Cage games.

[@kingofravens215]

Small fun fact about Ethan’s blackouts! Originally he was supposed to be psychically linked to the origami killer but because they couldn’t form a cohesive story around that half way through the game Ethan just stop’s having blackouts and it’s never mentioned again in game ☝🏻

[@justelliot4870]

Wait this game wasn't written fully before they put it into production? David Cage, you've done it again

[@kingofravens215]

@@justelliot4870 Yeah he’s a bit of a weird guy from what I’ve heard lol

[@nekovanguard9553]

@@kingofravens215 "a bit" is a huge understatement friend lmao. Guy is a total hack, and Detroit story wouldn't be half as fun if it weren't for Bryan Dechart and Clancy Brown being deviants and rewritting most of Cage's laughable script against his direction lmao.

[@PeferG17]

@@nekovanguard9553 I can't wait for Cage and the boys the screw up Star Wars Eclipse when that comes out in like 6 years

[@nonymouswisp8176]

David cage is definitely one of the directors of out there

[@nandersun_3561]

1:27:25 Things Madison knows about Ethan: - His name is Ethan - He’s not the origami killer (she can prove it) Things Ethan knows about Madison: - Has trouble sleeping Truly the fundamental building blocks of a budding romance

[@SugarbirdyOvO]

Wow, I'm so invested. I can't wait for them to lock lips, I'm utterly enthralled. The most well-developed dynamic in this decade.

[@iMajoraGaming]

*origarmie

[@DiscoBallGaming]

I figured out why Detroit Become Human is such a good "game" now, it took him a lot of failed attempts before just deciding to make his characters robots to get around all the terrible interactions

[@lpfan4491]

Reminds me of Fnaf, lmao.

[@AudioAlure]

Might be a hot take of mine but Android: Become Human fucking slaps.

[@allyli1718]

@@AudioAlure big hot take. the connor storyline is tight and the actors sell it, but hoo boy the kara and markus storylines. yeah, DBH is still WAY better than Heavy Rain

[@anotherguy687]

@@allyli1718 Personally Connor's top notch, Kara's decent but Cage HAD to go fuck up an amazing idea ("can an android love a human daughter? is Kara capable of true love or is this just her programming?"). Markus can go fuck himself.

[@joaoassumpcao3347]

@@allyli1718 Funny thing is that I've read a couple of times that the actors for Connor and Hank actually improvised a lot of stuff during their interactions that stayed in the game but Cage didn't like. So ironically, what's arguably the best part of any Cage game is also the part that he was involved the least. Though to be fair, I don't think even in the other parts DBH was as bad as some of the stuff in the other games. It was at its worst very cringe, not pull-my-hair-out terrible like some of the plot canyons in the other games (ESPECIALLY Heavy Rain).

[@Ryodren]

Can't believe RT subconsciously knew who the killer was from the very beginning based solely on the panic he experienced during each Scott loading screen.

[@mapleman8499]

Truly skilled

[@gustavofring3864]

Or he played it before and just knew

[@brookepearson]

Noo this was the comment shown before you click on the comment section and I accidentally read it before watching (altho it might be funnier knowing he was right the whole time lol)

[@Badgerinary]

And he noticed the knowledge he shouldnt have known

[@sonofpears4691]

@@brookepearsondon’t worry theres so little evidence leading to him that it shouldn’t affect your enjoyment

[@fupsies6045]

I'm really impressed by the writer's commitment to making a game without a single natural human interaction

[@milesrogers7402]

Yea it's a real surprise

[@BobertBobson]

David Cage, you've done it again

[@gaspardp7314]

It's because at the time, David Cage was still in enclosure and was only allowed extremely limited contact with human beings. The other games being made after he escaped containment, their dialogue is (very very slightly) better

[@bingusshlingus1442]

God bless the incompetence of David cage's horrendous writing and unrestrained horniness

[@hexinthelilypond4213]

@@gaspardp7314 he finally got out of his David Cage

[@EverTheFractal]

David Cage has no idea how anything works. Human emotions, women, children, mental health, ai, medicine, alternate reality, phones, origami, electricity, police, women again for good measure....

[@Gracosef]

And drowning

[@EverTheFractal]

@@Gracosef wait actually, thinking about it. Shaun standing for days in steadily raising water and he didn't like... Pass out from hypothermia or exhaustion? He was just able to stand perfectly still in freezing cold rainwater for days?

[@Gracosef]

@@EverTheFractal shaun is just built different

[@BoldTint]

@@EverTheFractal he peed in it to make it warmer, easy as that

[@ps1hagridoufofcharacter]

@@BoldTint but he must have ran out of pee at some point! did he tart spitting in the water or smth? /j

[@nikolasscheeks]

So the entire point of Madison’s dream fight sequence was to see a woman naked, then watch her get brutalized…how wonderful.

[@hexinthelilypond4213]

David Cage has a weirdly specific “short-haired woman gets assaulted and/or tortured” fetish, so that was a treat just for him I guess.

[@AluminumFusion22]

​@@hexinthelilypond4213Didn't he get caught up in some kind of legal case a couple of years ago? I know Quantic Dream had really bad workplace harassment and Elliot Page threatened to sue because a modeling artist on the team sculpted an anatomically accurate model for what was meant to be a simple shower scene in Beyond: Two Souls.

[@NA-AN]

@@hexinthelilypond4213 gross.

[@songbird6414]

@@AluminumFusion22 as disturbing as the implications of the naked Elliot Page scene is it’s also really funny lmao

[@kennethmcgregor5953]

Yeah that seems on-brand for David Cage

[@styfen]

As a bird owner, the death there is super accurate. They look absolutely fine and then suddenly they're either dead or super sick. They hide illness & injury like no other.

[@Treopse]

:(

[@raikkappa23]

Honestly, out of all the scenes in this shitshow, that one actually hit me. Bird owner here, too.

[@mcdanzy8379]

David Cage understand how Bird works more than how humans do 💀

[@LordofFullmetal]

I was thinking that too. That's how my bird died, when I owned one. Fine one day, dead the next.

[@LuNa_097]

plot twist : david cage is a bird alien@@mcdanzy8379

[@Diabetesboy408]

Remember that glitch that made you scream shaun the entire game i think it was the most memorable part of the game

[@deadraven355]

Shaun, Shaun, shaun, SHAUUUUNNN

[@boiyado6717]

SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHAAAAAAUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!

[@Wryyyong]

*SHAUN* *SHAUUUUUUUUUUN* *SHAUUUUUN*

[@cheese4870]

ah the press x to shaun glitch... what a time to be alive

[@dodojesus4529]

Your not SHaun

[@katt1206]

“The teacher yelled at me for being late again. Next time it happens she’s gonna send me home.” Simultaneously the dumbest and most realistic line in the game

[@genericname2747]

Remember, school is more important than dead siblings

[@intothevoid1996]

As someone in teaching and pedagogy, its so deeply hurtful to me to think that theres countless schools and teachers blaming kids for coming in late. The only solution to it is either calling or organising a talk with the PARENTS, not punishing the kid. I dont understand how thatd ever make sense.

[@beefteefz4636]

@@intothevoid1996 its also like, why would you send a kid home for being late?? what is that logic?? the only reason being late would be bad is because the student would be missing out on education, so to punish that, you send them home for a whole day?? SO THEY CAN MISS MORE EDUCATION???

[@CWINDOWSsystem32]

@@beefteefz4636 Is sending a kid home for being late even a thing in public school? I thought we have compulsory education where kids are required by law to be at school. The only times I was sent home for being late were in college, in high school it was detention and a phone call to my parents.

[@AidenOcelot]

@@CWINDOWSsystem32 Due to depression in my final years of highschool I "skipped" a lot of days. When I did manage to return to school they wouldn't let me attend classes. Instead they sent me to In School Suspension where they expected me to work.. On assignments I didn't have because I skipped

[@dunhune]

When RT said he was going to sit there a moment after reading the note, my computer was in the process of a hard-crash. It sat there for about 4 minutes with complete silence until the blue windows screen popped up. The whole time I was thinking, "He's really commiting to this bit."

[@scottsmith3804]

This comment is my upvote so I don’t ruin the 666

[@leithmascari5053]

The fact that Jason gets his balloon, then decides it’s time to leave the mall entirely

[@annn2780]

David Cage's writing skills are beyond our understanding

[@ashleyjohansson230]

Jason deserves the biggest spanking imaginable.

[@arthropodqueen]

mission accomplished, now make your way to an exit

[@genericname2747]

The balloon was the one who made him. It was the main antagonist all along!!

[@cranberryrosebud]

@@genericname2747 It's the Pennywise balloon

[@kormagogthedestroyer]

That car stopped for Jason. The only way he could have died there is if Ethan slammed him headfirst into the pavement and then chucked him under the car

[@Rockman9830]

"This is for not getting me the world's #1 dad mug on father's day."

[@Saltience]

There’s literally no way the driver of the car didn’t see Jason doing a casual jog across the road with a balloon in his hands.

[@lordsloth2532]

Like maybe he takes a broken arm at worst from hitting the pavement. But Ethan absolutely took most of the blow

[@eraumavoz6344]

Ethan Suplexed Jason.

[@honeycomb937]

@@lordsloth2532 seriously! i just got to that part of the video, and really? jason died? skill issue on his part fr

[@jorcornel558]

The moment i realised this game was a masterpiece was when The Detective looks up at the overcast sky and says "huh, Heavy Rain". Iconic.

[@TotalyNotTony]

David Cage has done it again!

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

My favorite part was when the Origarmi Killer said "It's Origarmin' Time"

[@MechanicalShockwaveBow]

@@halfmettlealchemist8076 and then he heavy rained all over everyone.

[@dddevel8]

Roll credits

[@Joosher56]

JASON JASON JASON JASON JASON JASON JASON JASON JASON JASON JASON

[@K1ttyGam3r]

I love how Ethan just stopped doing CPR on his dying son and just started crying instead of waiting 10 more seconds

[@CWINDOWSsystem32]

Not to mention that unbelievably pathetic attempt at CPR. That was nowhere near the 1.5 compressions per second with enough force to break the ribs needed for CPR to do anything.

[@yikes2540]

@@CWINDOWSsystem32 def was not doing it to the beat of staying alive… pathetic

[@jungtothehuimang]

I'm telling you Ethan actually was a psychopath the whole time bc how did he manage to barrel roll his son into an oncoming car and the lose his other son in broad daylight??? He's a menace to his family.

[@joko2882]

Also, that CPR was worthless because Shaun didn't even have air in his lungs

[@swiftyoooo]

@@joko2882 isnt cpr focused on keeing blood pumping until they can get air in his lungs?

[@intothevoid1996]

Turning a forced sexual assault around to a "you go girl" girlpower moment when the character was introduced in a shower scene. Wow.

[@LordofFullmetal]

I agree the writing is really sexist, and David Cage probably is a creep - but to be fair, you don't HAVE to do the shower scene. I literally tested this because I had the same concerns. You can do the entire sequence without ever getting in the shower. That is a choice the PLAYER is making. In fact, all the nudity is like that except for Ethan's shower scene. Madison gets exactly as naked as YOU want her to. Even in the sexual assault scene - there's literally a trophy you can get for getting her through that scene without taking her clothes off. The game rewards you for NOT stripping her. This is fairly consistent to David Cage games, and it's honestly a step-up from some other games that literally just force this content on you. Because it is choice-based gameplay, it is entirely possible most of the time to skip the scenes involving nudity or SA. It shouldn't be there at all - but being able to choose whether you partake or not is a good first step.

[@vivil2533]

​@@LordofFullmetal what other games are you referring to? I've played hundreds of games and David cages games are the only games I can think of that have sexual assault scenes, and shower scenes.

[@StrawberryShorty]

@@vivil2533 They mentioned something in a similar comment about hating how most choice-based games involved getting a woman undressed as a result of your choices. Only one that comes to mind is Until Dawn, though.

[@TecTitan]

The camera zooms in on her ass so much it deserves it's own spot in the credits

[@PointsofData]

​@@LordofFullmetal I have watched a few people play this game, all of whom disliked that scene, and NONE of them knew it wasn't necessary to do the shower part. They ALL did it because they felt like they had to. You can't really give the game a golf clap if it's not clear the sexual choice isn't necessary.

[@lacerda6804]

I love How in every movie, whenever something tragic happens, the main character goes from living in Silicon Valley to living in Staten Island.

[@generalrubbish9513]

Being sad makes you poor, apparently.

[@lessevilnyarlathotep1595]

​@@generalrubbish9513if so, david cage doesnt know how poverty works lol. all the cabinets full to bursting with snacks, two bedroom house with a front yard AND backyard, there's a basketball hoop so presumably ethan actually Owns the house and isnt just renting. he just smacked a drab and dreary color pallette over a pretty nice middle class home

[@nont18411]

Then there is Better Call Saul, when Jimmy moved from his old apartment he used to live with Kim to an extravagant mansion and yet, that scene was supposed to show how bleak his life had become.

[@TheLeastOfficialOfBros]

I just assumed that the wife was the one with money since apparently Ethan just gets to draw magic pictures all day

[@spidey5558]

​@@nont18411I assume it's supposed to be that "it's lonely at the top" trope

[@foxdude7083]

the imagery of ethan grabbing jason before the car hits only to twist around and use jason as a meat shield is really funny to me

[@zapatron1939]

Gotta make sure he gets hit

[@cube_incinerator426]

He put too much spin on it

[@aqua2k210]

I gotcha kiddo OH shit its a car save me Jason!

[@bionicdragon5]

He cushioned Jason with his body, only to realize that the car is the deadliest weapon devised by man. Once a car sets its cold, soulless headlights on its target, even the slightest bump will instantly reduce that poor soul's bones to dust, regardless of physics.

[@catsquidcatoverlord9842]

@@bionicdragon5 Just imagining this as the first episode of attack on titan with his reaction just being the same as Hanes, the moment actually sees the car coming for him just shear panic and nopes out, but instead he does a spin to let his son take the hit.

[@uhohspaghettios3801]

"You know dad, what happened to Jason wasn't your fault" "Goodnight son" who the fuck wrote this shit lmfao

[@sonofpears4691]

In my opinion the worst part is that one of my pet writing peeves is when a dad refers to his son as “son” or a sibling refers to the pit sibling as “brother” or “sister”. My dad would never refer to me as “son” it’s always either my name or a nickname like “dude”, like no one refers to their children in conversation as “son” or “daughter” it’s just a lazy way of writers establishing the family relationship in the least interesting way possible.

[@Very-Uncorrect]

​​@@sonofpears4691This!! I've never seen a parent call their kid "son" or siblings call each other names like "little sis" or "big bro". I feel like the trope was popularised by people who don't have siblings and/or have a bad relationshipwith their parents and this is what they think good family relationships look like

[@massgunner4152]

​@@sonofpears4691me who my sister always calls me brother:

[@CanalDoRyu]

I wouldn't say Heavy Rain aged poorly because that would imply it was ever good to begin with

[@lpfan4491]

Not really. Something can be a pile of poop and then stink a lot more a month later. Heavy rain in particular aged poorly because equivalent experiences released since that manage to at least be decent, so it doesn't even have the novelty anymore.

[@CanalDoRyu]

Fair enough, I was thinking more about how the story and writing in HR were always subpar, so it had little substance besides the novelty of the whole "interactive movie" format

[@youtube-kit9450]

@@lpfan4491 Have to agree. Imo I don't think anyone who was dazzled by this novelty and how it told a story was a fucking moron, people can be blinded by new bling. Imo, the question is more if they are willing to change their initial stance to evaluate the game later that shows whether they're "morons" or not (and imo you're not really a moron just because you have a taste in video games that imo are just bad, "artistique" bs)

[@kennedykilla9344]

Heavy Rain is a masterpiece change my mind

[@synbioshoshone745]

@@kennedykilla9344lol

[@MLGHazrad]

Interesting fact about this game, they never explained why Ethan has these random blackouts that happen for no reason and stopped happening. Apparently, when Jason died, Ethan made a spiritual bond with a serial killer. Everytime this killer goes on committing murders, Ethan would go to the memories of said killer and see the latest victim. He then wake up to the place of significance of the killer, holding an Origami in one hand. Seriously look up supernatural cut content of Heavy rain.

[@IamaPERSON]

That’s so weird. Could you imagine if something like that happened IRL?

[@Coco-hq6ns]

…..why? Why is that the lore?

[@arciks11]

​@@Coco-hq6ns Because David Cage's previous game Indigo Prophecy goes in even dumber directions. For Heavy Rain it almost feels like someone reined him in some.

[@hundred2949]

That's explains him and others thinking he's the killer more but still why

[@XXXTENTAClON227]

I don’t think it’s “apparent” because there is footage for it lol

[@AkashWShah]

There's something profoundly hilarious about watching the AIs in the background walk into each other and struggle to pathfind while Ethan's wife is sobbing over her dead child.

[@mayosmayo4738]

Yeah, I also don’t understand how you receive an impact from a car on your back and not die but your son in your arms does.

[@slice6298]

@@mayosmayo4738 he used the child to break his fall

[@spidey5558]

@@mayosmayo4738 And even then, the car stopped

[@zwalker2000]

timestamp lol?

[@AkashWShah]

@@zwalker2000 26:17

[@salticus]

I love how as soon as Ethan turns his back on his son, he actively searches for the exit of the shopping centre and begins to run into traffic.

[@LordofFullmetal]

I know. Though honestly, some kids are just runners. Some kids do that - they will just sprint off for no reason. It's like, before they reach a certain age (which in fairness Jason should be above - but also he was written to be younger), kids are literally actively TRYING to unalive themselves. So much of your life revolves around stopping them, because if you leave them alone for two minutes they'll be doing something that could unalive them. And then at some point they just stop trying to unalive themselves.

[@Soroboruo]

Given what we see of Ethan's ""parenting"" skills throughout, can we really blame him?

[@John.McMillan]

​@@LordofFullmetalBeing so young they remember when it was like waiting at the title screen before starting this shit game so subconsciously try to hit the back button before they forget after a few years.

[@cameronica]

yeah, kid is clearly suicidal. can you blame him?

[@mushu_beardie2556]

Is this Heavy Rain or Who's Your Daddy?

[@lurkingmoth]

Something i just realized (after dozens of watches) is that in the tutorial, Ethan draws his perspective guide in *one* point perspective, with the vanishing point in the middle... But when he draws the building over that, it's in*two* point perspective, where the vanishing points are on either side. It's like foreshadowing for how this entire game doesn't know what it's doing beyond the very first step.

[@anerim6395]

david cage has done it again!!

[@samundef3500]

Fun fact if you haven’t seen it, there’s an infamous glitch in one of the final scenes. If you hold L2 and call “Shaun” at a certain point, you have access to the prompt to do the Shaun yell over and over again for the rest of the scene. Genuinely one of the funniest glitches out there. It’s usually referred to as “press x to Shaun” if you want to see it for yourself.

[@caseys2cold]

A classic

[@liaspooked4980]

i have come back to this video just to thank this comment. Its been a while since I ve laughed as hard as I did watching the "press x to Shaun" video. Its so good. Thank you for enlightening me !

[@samundef3500]

@@liaspooked4980 So glad to hear it! It’s still one of my favorite glitches in any game to this day.

[@MajiggerRose]

I have not laughed this hard in a while. Thank you.

[@idontwantahandlethough]

Oh my god my stomach hurts from laughing so hard! Thanks friend, I needed that :)

[@rascally_fiend]

fun fact! in the portion of the game when you're locked in the car underwater with lauren, even if you fail EVERY SINGLE qte and wait out the timer, scott STILL LIVES, because this games entire gimmick (that any character can die any time) is completely made up for publicity. :) david cage your vision knows no bounds 10/10

[@JacktheRah]

Yeah that bothered me even as a teenager when the game came out. It didn't feel real enough. And now from an adult's and writer's perspective I can say: DAVID CAGE YOU ARE A TERRIBLE AND LAZY WRITER, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T TOUCH A COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER EVER AGAIN!

[@emblemblade9245]

God I can’t wait for Star Wars Eclipse lmao

[@therealevilmudbug]

@@JacktheRah can he touch a pen and a piece of paper?

[@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas]

@@therealevilmudbug and a sharp mind, to give back correct change? Do you guys know what the square root of 1087 is?

[@therealevilmudbug]

@@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas what?

[@avynlie]

My favorite part of this entire masterpiece is how wildly different every character pronounces 'origami.' It reminds me of the prengan pregnant video

[@MilesCantRun]

it's pronounced "preganinant" smh

[@Amayawolf_01]

Ikr, they keep saying it so weirdly lmao

[@hellyeah6432]

Some of my favorites: Origarmi Oh-ree-gæ-mi (with the /a/ sound in "cat") Origami (with a stress pattern like polygamy)

[@hajde8128]

Literally none of the actors in this game are native English speakers lmao

[@jrojassengard2586]

Ogirami

[@daveymatt1969]

I fell asleep while ethan started playing basketball and left shaun upstairs and when i woke up shaun had been kidnapped and so rather than going back and rewatching i’m continuing with my own head canon that shaun was stolen because ethan left him to play basketball in the rain.

[@daymuntaku6590]

makes just as much sense

[@RuinedSilver]

"he has origami, he MUST be the origami killer" The previous victims whos kids died and were left a piece of origami- "Well shit they're onto me too".

[@InquisitorThomas]

David Cage: Have you seen my favorite anime: Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex?

[@Nekrumorfiini1]

600 likes btw.

[@therealevilmudbug]

@@Nekrumorfiini1 what about it? Everyone can see that. No need to point that out.

[@Nekrumorfiini1]

@@therealevilmudbug You said it.

[@janbosch5951]

Would this origami gimmick not be abused by anyone else by the way? Anyone who wants to murder anyone in this universe can just learn a basic origami and put it near the victim and the police will pin it on the origami killer. Why the hell would you want to have such a gimmick in the first place? Is being a well-known murderer really benificial to your end goal?

[@cthulhubecausewhynot1182]

The only way to automatically make a game 75% worse is by adding the phrase, “Directed by David Cage” to it.

[@nonymouswisp8176]

What about adding turret sections longer than one minute

[@floppydisksareop]

@@nonymouswisp8176 Close, but that's still a couple minutes that suck at most. With David Cage on the other hand...

[@emblemblade9245]

David Cage game with turret segments

[@nonymouswisp8176]

@@emblemblade9245 oh no

[@nashvontookus7451]

What about being by Todd Howard?

[@whereamigoing777]

Ethan cutting off his finger and doing everything to make it worse is one of the most unintentionally funny moments in a video game.

[@coca-clown]

what seals the deal for me is the reveal that what he needed was underneath the desk the whole time with a visually obvious crack in the floor

[@krim5018]

i know voice acting is hard, but the voice acting for this game really sounds like the acting in some homemade amazon movie

[@Soroboruo]

To be fair, voice acting does depend on direction (I've heard some very bad performances from VAs in between very good ones) and the direction in this game does seem a bit uh...... vague, shall we say.

[@krim5018]

@@Soroboruo fair point lmfao i wouldnt doubt they were given scripts that didnt have any cues for emotion

[@Paladriel]

@@krim5018 most of the voice actors didn't even understand english at all

[@Level1Hera]

I had assumed they were all non English speakers! 😮

[@Very-Uncorrect]

​@@Level1HeraApparently a lot of the VAs were French and were just told how to pronounce the words, it sounds so weird because they have no clue what they're saying

[@lucatdcat8720]

If the game DOESN'T start with a man's ass in your face, toss it and leave a 1 star review.

[@soupy55]

Amen

[@wtrflsh]

What is your opinion on subtle but clearly noticeable bulges

[@dumpingstirs1143]

@@wtrflsh three stars

[@deepdays9068]

@@dumpingstirs1143 what about no subtlety in the bulge?

[@makuru_dd3662]

@@deepdays9068 hey i recognize that bulge!

[@TsunamiAM]

the car driving around the block every single minute of the day is obviously the drift king, EVERYTHING IS A METAPHOR!-

[@WobblyFNAF]

David Cage has done it again

[@notjimpickens7928]

David cage and RT went to college together 💀

[@MilesCantRun]

@@notjimpickens7928 I mean... RT *was* an Engish major...

[@PointsofData]

​@MilesCantRun if they went to the same college and got the same education I'm scared of what RT could write

[@SugarbirdyOvO]

@@MilesCantRun Bold of you to assume that David Cage has any degree in writing at all

[@gothcsm]

It’s so hilarious to me that Jason somehow DIED from that “car accident” 💀 Ethan took most -if not all- of the blow, and Jason STILL found a way to die.

[@JackedThor-so]

I mean, we're talking about a kid who is directly told "don't go anywhere," only to somehow teleport outside the mall, and runs into ongoing traffic if his name is called. The kid's head is so empty I'd imagine the featheriest of bumps against the pavement would cause it to cave in like cheap porcelain.

[@amberbaum4079]

@@JackedThor-so I honestly thought that they have the gall to explain his behavior away with the kid having some kind of disability combo or something. He is 10. He just keeps walking around with his head empty and full on blinkers over his eyes. He is way too responsive and high-functioning in previous scenes so that excuse can't be used either. The writer just uses kids as a plot device. This kid is unrealistic and braindead.

[@exotic1405]

Deserved tbh

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

​@@exotic1405 please tell me you're joking

[@exotic1405]

@@fukkthisnewupdate8882 little shit had it coming, literally

[@ice-choco-Icecream]

The most unrealistic bit of all of this is how Shaun never died from hypothermia, but hey, that's on the rain

[@penginlord9396]

It's heavy rain, not cold rain

[@anerrorhasoccurred8727]

@@penginlord9396 heavy rain is basically like a watery blanket against the cold, it’s just science.

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

​@@anerrorhasoccurred8727 I know you're probably joking, but I just need to make sure

[@willson1908]

@@fukkthisnewupdate8882 its true, look up the Yomo-Futanari effect

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

@@willson1908 Really? Huh, the more you know

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

This game has ruined the names "Jason" and "Shaun" for me forever, 10/10

[@eliaspanayi3465]

Jason. Jason. Jason. Jason. Jason. Jason. Jason. Jason. Jason.

[@SmoothTurtle840]

Fallout 4 was really just a spiritual successor to Heavy Rain when you think about it.

[@nekovanguard9553]

When i played the (infamous) part of the game where you could spam "press X to shaun", my cat whose name is shaun keeps meowing because he thought someone keeps calling him lmao

[@Coco-hq6ns]

Mood

[@thatonedude6949]

Dont forget to press X to "Jason" our "Shaun"

[@TheValiantBob]

If you actually check the timeline of events that Ethan Mars was in a COMA when the Origami Killings first started. The fact that this is Never Addressed by any character ever as why Ethan has the perfect alibi is Infuriating. David Cage, you've done it again.

[@vetreas366]

You guys need to understand that IT WAS A DIFFERENT PERSONALITY DOING IT! So Ethan was in a coma but the other personality was not so whenever he switched out, the other personality would get up and do his business, kill a kid or two, then return to the hospital bed and fall back into a coma. David Cage has achieved perfect emotional storytelling to the point where reason doesn't even factor into it! Truly, he has done it again!

[@TirOrah]

Good god, every comment just makes the game even worse... Good job, police. ... Wait, then how come his WIFE accused him?! She knows better than anyone else when he was in a coma! Ahh my head.

[@PixelHeroViish]

@@vetreas366 So when Ethan blacks out he goes through a painful morphing process to transform into Scott Shelby, do his segments and transform back until their bodies separate near the end? I see now 🤔

[@coreylemon]

This is because originally the game was supposed to have the incredibly asinine plot point of Ethan being "psychically/spiritually linked" to the Origami Killer after the accident. He really *was* supposed to have been unconsciously moving, even during his coma, that's why he has blackouts in his story.

[@thephony1651]

Bravo David

[@babeysheep]

All of the characters feel so weird and emotionless and unrealistic, but the old lady (can't remember her name sorry) felt really real actually. From the 'they always forget my pills' to the retelling the silliest little stories very fondly to repeating things and not noticing. She was like, the only character this whole video that I actually cared about more than just 'this character is a protagonist and so I must like them'. Maybe I'm biased though, my grandmother was briefly put into a nursing home recently and that scene & dialogue kinda felt very similar to talking to her there.

[@denjidenji9162]

It's not just you! I also really enjoyed that part. Another thing that adds to it is that the voice actor doesn't sound like they're bored

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

honestly i think whoever voiced her helps, she rlly reminds me of my grandma lol

[@steelfox1448]

I totally agree, my grandmother had really bad dementia and that's what it felt like, she couldn't remember names, but knew who was who. She left a month ago.

[@LockandKeyHyena]

this!!! really reminded me of my nan who has alzheimers

[@Isosyth]

$10 says an intern wrote that. You can always assume any bright spot in a Cage game is the part where he wasn't involved.

[@queenkajinakinoshita7395]

Can we please give a nominee to the kid at 1:21:49 I broke into tears of laughter when he was not screaming or panicking but softly saying "Help...help..help.. My foot is stuck."

[@generallyunimportant]

i have fallen and i can't get up

[@aspwned]

i don't wanna be all "erm actually", but drowning is actually silent. the kid being able to say that quietly while struggling to keep himself afloat with that much water pressure is pretty unrealistic, to be honest. it's dangerous the way movies and tv portray drowning as this big, loud thing when it really isn't. that's why so many people (especially kids) drown with people around them/not too far away, they think everything is fine. take this less as me trying to correct you for no reason and more that i think it's a very important thing for people to know.

[@katzenhai8289]

@@aspwned true. i almost drowned in the shallows of a super busy lake as a kid bcs the sand underneath me shifted, and i was gone way too quick to shout or even splash. One of the reasons I always get nervous when I see parents that let their kids freeroam around water.

[@cyanhacker]

Hey! A man has fallen into the river in the lego city!

[@colonelduck6211]

@@aspwned I almost drowned in a swimming pool once with a lifegaurd right next to me. I guess he couldn't tell I was drowning, but lucky some guy noticed and dragged over to the side of the pool. I could barely say "help" and I was using my arms mostly to try and keep me afloat/swim to the surface. I honestly never really thought much about it until now, great piece of advice for people to look out for though.

[@Manawolfman]

Honestly, I feel like this game loses people so fast with just how much of a idiot Jason is at the start and also the fact that real world logic would suggest the kidnapped kids would be dead from hypothermia long before the water rises enough to drown them.

[@alexanderglex4600]

Or that the kid could keep floating that long without dying of exhaustion

[@notjimpickens7928]

@@alexanderglex4600 or dehydration since rain water would likely make him have diarrhea after the first few hours of being locked up with no food or bottled water, Jason truly is built different

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

apparently jason was meant to be younger (hes 10 in game so maybe he was meant to be like 5-6??) but higher ups were uncomfortable with a game starting with the death of a VERY young child, so essentially jason is acting like a fucking infant and they never changed how he dies

[@SiraSingsSongs]

@@notjimpickens7928 the dehydration and diarrhea empties the kids out so they're like a buoy

[@Ro321chile]

Honestly I thought that Jason was under mind control or some weird magical shit and that the game would go to that direction, a human vs a superhuman or something like that

[@purplehaze2358]

Considering the bird was completely fine just a few minutes before it died, I suspect there’s more credence to its death being the fault of the kid than the father thinks. I’ve heard of foul play, but that kid committed fowl play.

[@theadministrator.6632]

Hello doctor bright.

[@kalodawg8297]

Ethan actually saved countless innocent people when he twisted/crushed Jason by stopping a future serial killer

[@null8384]

Good to know that the Doctor Jack Bright is also an rt game fan

[@Eingefallen]

May I remind you, per foundation protocol, you are not allowed to hand out free birds to civilians.

[@theadministrator.6632]

@@Eingefallen overruled as of now doctor bright is aloud to give birds to people of interest.

[@purpturt8398]

Ethan at the end like "We're going to stay together all the time :)" with his son like did his wife not have half custody or did she fail a qte and fall off a cliff

[@rjfrost7090]

She forgot Ethan was in a coma when the killings started and got Blake on his ass for the rest of the game. She loses parenting privileges for doing that.

[@youtube-kit9450]

@@rjfrost7090 On the other hand, Ethan literally managed to lose both of their sons into extremely hazardous situations by complete negligience months apart in the same way and clearly showed he isn't fit to look after a 10 year old. CPS should just take the kid away.

[@wildfire9280]

@@youtube-kit9450 that’s not even mentioning how stupid this villain was

[@ninjacat230]

David cage forgot about her

[@platonicallyinpain6501]

Press X to win custody battle

[@eyesoftomorrow6647]

I feel like the concept of killing someone by drowning them in rain water is both terrifying and highly impractical. It relies entirely on the weather and does he feed them and give them water to keep them alive while they are down in the pits? What if they die of starvation beforehand due to the weather taking a long time? what if they drink the water? Does he let them out to go to the bathroom so they don't die of an infection from swimming in poop and piss water? its super impractical and leaves a lot of questions

[@kaiserhundkek2531]

Its rather effective in england rainfall is constant there

[@robertbarrass9176]

@Kaiserhund & Kek As a Brit, can confirm. Almost every year a village in the middle of bumb-fuck nowhere has a riverbank break and is flooded.

[@IDontReallyWantAYoutubeHandle]

Even if it rained constantly there'd be other factors to worry about. What about hypothermia? It can affect you faster than you think, and Shaun is also only a child. Hell, even at 34:28 you can hear him complaining that it's cold. You'd seriously have to be one of the unluckiest people on the planet to somehow survive every little contingency just to die via this guy's intended murder method

[@Pigmedog]

"conceptually terrifying and extremely impractical" is just david cages entire writing style

[@juliamaria3807]

@@IDontReallyWantAKZbinHandle yeah, like, they say 3 hours without shelter for a reason. bro would have died within a day.

[@criptastical]

I can't believe how bad this game is for how acclaimed it was at the time. Some observations after watching the whole thing: - The kid definitely killed the bird - Ethan probably killed Jason from how hard he grabbed him - David Cage has no idea how humans work - The idea that Ethan and Madison can have sex while Shaun is drowning is incredible - Lauren did nothing wrong, she just trusted the wrong people - Fridges are indestructible - Everyone in this game needs a lot of therapy - Dan probably needs therapy after playing this

[@BenCarsonPinkie]

Fun fact with the whole Ethan and Madison thing. In one of the possible endings, if you fail to save Shaun, it ends with Ethan mourning at his grave with Madison. At which point Madison says "let's make another". I cannot believe they actually put that in the game.

[@aquatazer]

@@BenCarsonPinkie there is no way, I actually don’t believe you because of how terrible that writing is.

[@hannahgeraghty4201]

@@BenCarsonPinkie I didn't believe you so I had to look it up and oh my god its true. It's true and followed SWIFTLY by Ethan shooting himself. Good gravy.

[@bobtheball5384]

@@BenCarsonPinkie Holy shit that's so fucking atrocious it's hilarious. What the fuck

[@boredomisinfinity5642]

​@@hannahgeraghty4201 The correct answer to someone hitting you with "Let's make another."

[@opinionpaladin6007]

I like the implications that the wife had all the money. As soon as they get divorced he isn't in his million dollar mansion.

[@somanyfruitsmango9021]

Hmm... Ethan got none of the money, but he maintained custody of their surviving child. I ain't saying she's a gold digger, but...

[@danielshore1457]

tbf I think its notioned to its moreso he stopped working after his son died rather than alimony payment

[@Shiruvi]

tbf he was in a severe car accident and then in a coma for six months, that's gonna be expensive in the US depending on where they live and how extensive his injuries were - i'm seeing estimates of $600 to $4000 PER DAY of being comatose on google. probably drained all their savings even with insurance so it wouldn't surprise me if they sold the house.

[@vetreas366]

@@Shiruvi Should've sold the kid instead. Yeah, yeah "unethical" this and "child trafficking" that but if you think about it all he got for having kids was trouble, misery and a missing finger segment. Cool house pays for itself!

[@Shiruvi]

@@vetreas366 nobody's paying that kind of money for a sadsack like shaun.

[@Thayne1]

Never forget how David Cage had the balls to have you start Indigo Prophecy by selecting "new film" and not "new game"

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

At least Indigo prophecy was enjoyably bad. A much more accurate video game adaptation of the room

[@Citrusautomaton]

The ending to that game is fucking INSANE. Literally the craziest shit i’ve ever seen in a video game.

[@Thayne1]

@@Citrusautomaton I think more games should end with a giant Dragon Balls battle

[@joaoassumpcao3347]

@@fukkthisnewupdate8882 The best part about that game is that the batshit insane stuff comes out of NOWHERE. It was basically a weird game with some strange dream-like sequences until the protag does a fucking backflip off the wall to evade the police, and after that it just keeps getting more ridiculous.

[@noodlelynoodle.]

@@Thayne1 I have never heard about this game before and that's the single best marketing for any game, like I'm assuming you mean like fighting a set of balls on a dragon and not just like a dbz fight, I gotta see this shit if that's the case lmfao

[@Crowmind.]

The only time this game actually managed to pull an emotion out of me was when the fish tank was broken. I immediately responded with "the fish!" When it happened.

[@raikkappa23]

That and the bird!

[@cyanhacker]

But developers ALWAYS have no emotion toward fish, although adding them to every tank

[@lovisaandersson4079]

RT getting jumpscared by Scott constantly and going on a tangent about how there's just a vibe of something wrong about him is the funniest thing to me, not to mention RT being suspicious over Shelby knowing that Shauns kidnapped

[@therealevilmudbug]

It's almost like he already knew that Scott was the imposter

[@Nayr50]

Everytime he mentioned Scott giving bad vibes or making that connection i was like "Did he figure it out?"

[@alexscholz3438]

@Booper Dooper Not to mention the whole typewriter thing that went on. "Looks like the origami killer uses a typewriter" And then it immediately pans to a typewriter, like bruh

[@styfen]

Do you really want to know how the sausage is made on this one? Or would you prefer to keep enjoying the mystery?

[@coolpizzacook]

@Booper Dooper I genuinely don't think Shelby knowing about Shaun is that big of a deal because it's a David Cage game. There's a scene in the police station where a bunch of journalists were basically assuming the Origami Killer already caught Shaun or something like that. Him knowing about that is probably the least suspicious thing he has.

[@grandchickenlord]

There are so many scenes of Madison being assaulted by creepy men in this game that I actually forgot about the Paco one. It’s like almost all she does. Happens a lot to The main character in Beyond Two Souls too. David Cage everybody.

[@vetreas366]

It's funny that the times it happens in the plot was not enough so Cage had to add a special dream sequence to assault her again and she gets to potentially be murdered by another creepy a-hole in the DLC as well! Her being a magnet for creepy weirdoes does explain how she potentially gets together with Ethan, I guess...

[@vriska9001]

@Booper Dooper wait what the fuck

[@shincci]

I mean, the guy is an ahole. Literally said all the women in his games are wh*res.

[@weirdcreature9928]

And it's shot in such a creepy weird male-gazey way it makes me so uncomfortable

[@EatyourWafflesplease]

or inviting creepy men to assault her, which is even worse. the whole time she was just revealing where she lived and where she was staying and why and everything to a man she had just met who was asking her tons of questions freaked me out SO much, david cage clearly has no idea how to write women

[@mouthhouse8139]

I played the demo for this game at a friends house while really high and I struggled to climb up that muddy hill at 18:00 while my friend kept trying to convince me this was the future of games.

[@quantumblur_3145]

Symbolic

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

metaphor society something something?

[@waffleauflauf4213]

@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 It's a metaphor, just like syphilis ✊🏻😔 /s edit: i meant sisyphus

[@AJX-2]

​@@waffleauflauf4213 one must imagine syphilis happy

[@sonofpears4691]

It’s obviously designed to be an allusion to the Ancient Greek myth of Sisyphus. Dammit David Cage you’ve done it again

[@Dreigonix]

Side note: during the stupid finger-cutting scene, it REALLY looked like he was gonna fall on the hot metal rod after pouring alcohol into his open wound, and that would’ve been hilarious. The scene is dumb enough already that they might as well have just gone full slapstick and had him sit on the rod, then jump up and start running around screaming with his butt on fire like a cartoon.

[@torylva]

Here's a fun fact! All the criminal shit Ethan does while trying to save his son? Yeah, all of that is punishable. For instance, commiting a murder because you were forced into it under duress (Such as loved one being threatened) is still considered murder, though most would also consider there being mitigating circumstances. So yes, at the end of this? Ethan would probably face several years in prison.

[@vetreas366]

I'm unconvinced Ethan isn't just committed to an asylum at the end and he's just imagining that happy end. I imagine the scene fading out to reveal that he's being led to the common area of a mental ward when entering that spacious house he couldn't possibly afford and that when he's running around playing with imaginary!Shaun he's just being chased by other mental patients in the place to establish the pecking order. That would be a twist I could get behind.

[@emblemblade9245]

Vetreas oh god that’d be creepy

[@FixedKarma]

I don't know american law all well in regards to criminal charges, but here in Canada any crime done under duress is passed onto whoever made you do it.

[@malcomchase9777]

He didn't murder the guy on RT's playthrough, though. Yeah, it's still assault, and he did drive into traffic, but as far as we can tell, there was no actual murder.

[@frightfulpath562]

@@vetreas366 That's the end of my story. They say i went completely off the rails, and that I'm not responsible for my actions... I'll never know what happened to my son at that construction site on that rainy night. Because in the eyes of the world... I'm just David Cage's lunatic

[@kanakanaka]

"you know dad, what happened to Jason wasn't your fault." ...Shaun you're 10. And that's not considering the fact that came outta nowhere

[@EatyourWafflesplease]

that scene made me cackle

[@gaspardp7314]

"Father, are your Id and Superego clashing because you have mixed feelings of guilt and anger about a traumatic event you cannot change anything about?"

[@katherinesmallbean3594]

"you know dad, I'm here to inquire about your car's extended warranty."

[@rjfrost7090]

Shaun proving he's a better shrink than Ethan's actual shrink who told him that he should be happy to still be alive even though one of his kids are dead. And forgot to tell Blake and Jayden that Ethan was in a coma for 6 months when the Origami Killings started.

[@matthewscheifer1169]

He's just repeating what his dad said to him about the bird.

[@HeyMrSteve]

It's so funny to me that Dan figured out the killer just by being uncomfortable with his face close up

[@Tauking1970]

The worst bit about the nude shower scene for me is that the nude model was made without the actors consent. So it's weird and pointless and also super creepy. Also god this game is so subtly racist in its stereotyping

[@catherineperry5099]

Subtly? Honey David Cage doesn't do Subtle.

[@PoppySis]

didnt that literally also happen with elliot page in beyond two souls??? jesus christ what a cage moment

[@BigBoiTurboslav]

You're saying it as if having a nude model made of you without consent is a bad thing

[@kennedykilla9344]

How the fuck is heavy rain racist?!

[@lessevilnyarlathotep1595]

​​@@kennedykilla9344??? presumably, you saw and heard jackson "mad jack" neville right? and paco? the walking, talking "skeevy sexist latino drug lord" caricature? like, cmon dude

[@ShiggityOnTheRocks]

When this game came out, I had a rabbit named Jason who knew his name, and that mall scene would drive him absolutely wild.

[@angellane1848]

adorable

[@fueselwe]

@@angellane1848 Not adorable rabbits can die from stress

[@angellane1848]

@@fueselwe i assume they mean wild in a good way. binkying and zoomies and such

[@fueselwe]

@@angellane1848 I hope so

[@robbyraystewart6978]

@@fueselwe You should try shutting up more often

[@Crabstar729]

nothing like 「immensely sized torrential downpour」 to put the interactive drama experience in the air

[@em__1]

Those brackets just made me think of Weather Report as a serial killer

[@weeb_dweeb]

Those brackets just made me think of spamton g spamton

[@cthulhubecausewhynot1182]

Catch The Rainbow looking MF

[@Hiraeth-0X]

Oh god

[@rozu7772]

@@Hiraeth-0X Oh no.

[@mariomaker69420]

he says “ethan does not scare me, it’s just scott for some reason” like scott isn’t the one who is particularly zoomed in and facing the 4th wall directly

[@jackhazardous4008]

I like how the medical issues only come up to stop the player from doing well in action scenes

[@generalrubbish9513]

Funny, it's almost like they're a very hamfisted plot device meant to negate the player's actions and force a pre-determined outcome so that David Cage can pretend he wrote a branching narrative even though he didn't.

[@leomorris7573]

jason survived the car collision, it was the force of ethan grabbing him that caused his fragile pathetic neck to snap in twine

[@honkstheclown8631]

ethan realised he wasn't dead yet and threw him in front of a different car

[@makeda6530]

100% the body slam of 3x his weight rushing his tiny frame into the pavement. What a manlet.

[@lionel2405]

*twain

[@666Shinedown]

He wasn't trying to save Jason, he wanted to make sure the lil shit was dead.

[@nerdychocobo]

I absolutely adore the way you phrased this. stupid kid made a big mistake having such a fragile neck smh

[@thatsufferingguy1058]

RT said he would prefer playing Minecraft Story Mode over this. We're in for a ride boys

[@alexandery9436]

After watching it I think that Minecraft story mode might actually have better writing

[@usonohoshi6165]

@@alexandery9436 Not really. Like what Dan said, it was consistently bad. This one has a few good stuff so the bad parts just really hit you.

[@thegrapethief5514]

@@usonohoshi6165 it’s like MGS2 and 5. There’s a handful of good points throughout it that make the generally awful writing look way worse. Except, in Cage’s case, the highs aren’t as high and the lows go even lower.

[@ps1hagridoufofcharacter]

@@alexandery9436 yeah, it's at least a little bit fun

[@RandomTomatoSoup]

@@thegrapethief5514 Calling MGS2's writing awful is the most insane opinion I've ever seen

[@stoptfg295]

My theory on the bird: nonstick coating on cookware releases a substance when heated that is very toxic to birds. She had just finished cooking lunch. If she was using a teflon coated pan to heat something up she might've been the one to kill the bird.

[@raikkappa23]

Yep, probably. Birds are the best, but you gotta be careful. Clearly nothing in that vein here!

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

I'm pretty sure you put more thought into this than David cage did

[@twat3789]

I love that so many of the comments here are trying to work out the mystery of what happened to the bird, putting more effort into finding plausible solutions than David Cage did into literally any part of this game

[@Cobalt360Degrees]

The most hilarious thing about looking back on this game is that, *apparently,* during a focus group test of this game, literally none of the seventy people they got could guess the killer before the ending. What I wanna know is how they managed to pick an entire group of mental flatliners to get a result like that. As RT mentions with Scott knowing things when he shouldn't, it's not exactly subtle who is the most likely suspect.

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

It's probably because if you think about it and look at the timeline, for Scott to be the killer the game would have to straight up lie to you

[@maybenat]

Look, I blamed the weird things on bad writing. I wouldn't guess it was Scott, but that was such a shitty plot twist lmao

[@peytonmac1131]

It didn't really make sense of Scott to be the killer, too many plot holes had to line up for that to be the case. I assumed it was a red herring to make us think it could be him, so the game could reveal who the real killer was. Only that didn't happen.

[@arian41148]

i just finished the game and i also had no idea it was him. it just doesn't make sense for it to be him.

[@asackboyplush6508]

​@@fukkthisnewupdate8882oh wait, it does

[@boiyado6717]

What the hell is that voice filter when you read notes in this game? Instead of sounding like it’s in the characters mind, it just sounds like they suddenly become a robot…wait a second, I get it now! It was all just foreshadowing for Detroit Become Human! David Cage, you’ve done it again.

[@TheREALHugo4]

Who cares. Detroit Become Human is a masterpiece anyways so get lost.

[@Jirachi_OFFICIAL]

💀

[@Hawk_of_Battle]

No see, it's because, inside, *we're all robots.* Metaphor!

[@therealevilmudbug]

That's how Shaun went to Detroit and became human

[@TirOrah]

No no no, it's because David Cage can't write human beings, only robots. That's why everyone is so stiff and bored in this game, obviously. He sure did it again!

[@SaraRyderN7]

How did this game WIN an award for the story and writing? Was there truly nothing else released in 2011?

[@katherinesmallbean3594]

Heavy Rain is actually from 2010, so it beat God of War 3, Bioshock 2, Red Dead Redemption, and Fallout: New Vegas to name a few 😭

[@mischievousbravery2792]

@@katherinesmallbean3594p

[@JackedThor-so]

@@katherinesmallbean3594 There is no God.

[@Satherian]

@@katherinesmallbean3594 FO:NV losing to this is just a beautiful example of award shows

[@theflickchick9850]

​@@katherinesmallbean3594 I know hardly anything about Bioshock but I know enough that it is definitely better from this.

[@whyiwakeup6460]

“It’s interesting how this was written with an old typewriter, I’m sure that’s really rare for someone to use right now.” **Typewriter LITERALLY IN FRAME**

[@DunlopPride]

David Cage gets to join the prolific pantheon of male writers/directors that force their fetishes into their work with his "short haired woman has to escape a torture/assault scenario" trope

[@googleoogle]

SERIOUSLY!!! I thought i was watching detroit become human for a second because the exact same scene happens with the exact same looking female character. even the struggling to escape while the torturer is distracted by something. this guy has three characters and one story to tell and he keeps getting millions of dollars to retell it

[@natuchna2416]

Oh god... Kara from Detroit tho

[@FrankMontes24]

The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo…

[@henryapplebottom7231]

WHAT! Never.

[@PoppySis]

the fact that the entire PAID DLC chapter for this game is just a scene of madison getting abused and tortured and has effectively no relation to the main plot is very hmmMMmmmmmmmm,

[@inf3ct3dnoname58]

It always makes me laugh when I see someone get pistol whipped in media as a way to spare them. My uncle got pistol whipped in a gas station robbery which caused permanent damage in his brain and led to his death. Pistol whipping somebody is never a good idea.

[@ps1hagridoufofcharacter]

thanks for the info, i had no idea. i'll be on the lookout for pistol-whippings. also, sorry about your uncle, i hope youre doing well.

[@stoopidapples1596]

This is why we can never implement gun control, if we do then everyone will just pistol whip each other!!

[@TirOrah]

I'm sorry that happened to your uncle. That really sucks. Media has a problem with playing off certain injuries or impacts as totes not that bad. I actually didn't know about the pistol whipping, but I DO know that if you get shot/otherwise punctured in the shoulder, it's likely you'll be bleeding out real soon (unless you got somewhat lucky with the wound placement). Yet in many films (and also games, thanks Heavy Rain) it's played off as not a big deal at all. Oh, and Ethan probably should've died from a finger infection or something...

[@bionicdragon5]

It gets me how people who make media like this don't realize that caving in someone's skull with a pistol grip is still just as deadly as shooting them, just because there isn't a loud noise to go along with it.

[@TirOrah]

@@debesys6306 Yeah, exactly. Fictional people get punched in the head and walk away totally fine so many times... Not every story needs to be realistic in that way, but still.

[@aeonixhope8383]

Still confused on how Dan fumbled with the 'Yes' and 'No' options when giving Shaun dinner.

[@ruairicorrigan3582]

He's an English major

[@SkyP9812]

@@ruairicorrigan3582 that explains it

[@bobbieplayzzz8972]

@@ruairicorrigan3582 Oh so not an American Minor

[@LazoGT]

dyslexia

[@annn2780]

and also the option to accept the drink from the deranged doctor

[@alanahschmitz5552]

The one credit I will give to this game's writing, at around 35:00 they're discussing how serial killers usually begin near their home and slowly work outward. This is very often true and Detective Kim Rossmo even developed an algorithm to track such a thing. It's a neat little bit of true crime that they actually did their homework on.

[@vsptylore3639]

So, because Ethan tried to protect his son from dying by being willing to sacrifice himself for him, Scott decided to test if Ethan would be willing to sacrifice himself to save his son from dying?

[@thisisausername9356]

Rtgame predicting the twist of every story is something that never gets old

[@rey9746]

26:58

[@YeetwithSwag]

@@rey9746 when I first played the game way back when I felt the same way, personally felt like they made it too obvious by the time you’ve seen all the characters who it is but maybe it’s just me

[@shayce4477]

He IS an english major after all

[@cagethelonewolf]

It's barely even a twist. The whole point of playing as the cop is to throw you off the trail.

[@theflickchick9850]

​@@shayce4477 Honestly, as an English major, I sorta understand the gift/curse.

[@torylva]

Why the fuck is everyone in this game so absolutely chill with people saying "No, no hospital!" Then again, this is in USA... Instead of people suspecting them of being criminals, they might just assume they can't afford the hundred thousand dollar care.

[@timtams_6]

yeah that was my thought as well. imagine trying to commit suicide because you're broke, someone saving you and sending you to the hospital, then getting the bill for that hospital trip.

[@strikerblitz2164]

Thats actually probably the most realistic part of the game.

[@JohnBrown-tw2qi]

@@strikerblitz2164 nah, the most realistic part was when that douchey cop purposefully antagonized a mentally ill drug addict to get a false confession out of him and possibly an excuse to beat/shoot him to death.

[@bionicdragon5]

I mean, I'm working class, and that's pretty accurate.

[@hachi8284]

because david cage can’t be fucked putting branching pathways in his choose-your-own adventure games. they boil down to exploitative B movies with the illusion of choice, what a visionary.

[@FailcopterWes]

"In society you can't just mute the background sounds" Really a missed opportunity. I hope it gets added in Society 2.

[@Very-Uncorrect]

Every misphonic person's dream

[@kannahvivien7525]

I was disappointed the first time I saw this game that Scott's asthma was highlighted in his first two scenes and then simply ceased to exist. It had felt like it was being set up to be more of an obstacle.

[@lilchaos9212]

Yeah you'd think it would come back at the end when he's chasing Jayden or during a fight scene. It would make sense, and could've then called back to Kramer with Jayden maybe getting the option to give Scott his inhaler or let him die. That would make far more sense than Scott just falling and asking Jayden to save him.

[@Very-Uncorrect]

​@@lilchaos9212that would've been so much better!

[@paprikahoernchen]

This game has so many awful points to it.. But one that annoys me so much that madison is only there to get naked or to get assaulted

[@PointsofData]

If there's a fair skinned female with short brown hair that's basically her entire point in the story. That and emotional support for the lead male.

[@jimmylittle9393]

Ikr cos that never happens irl...oh wait...

[@paprikahoernchen]

@@jimmylittle9393 Just because it happens irl you dont need to make that their entire point in the story. I mean.. theres more to women than being victims.

[@lancearnedo7837]

​@@jimmylittle9393my guy there's obviously a difference between something realistic happening in a story and it being actually important, like just imagine if there was a comic relief character in the game who kept getting kicked in the balls and he never contributed to he plot in any substantial way, that's something that happens in real life but completely pointless to include in the story

[@fandyus4125]

Sure she is an empty character, but you can't say that doesn't go for almost everyone in this game.

[@damocles7406]

RT's instincts letting him instantly peg the real killer is fucking hilarious.

[@EatyourWafflesplease]

he did WHAT to the killer??? 😳😳😳

[@ariannasilva4462]

When did he predict the killer? I watched this in segments over days so my memory of this is fuzzy.

[@damocles7406]

@@ariannasilva4462 Every time the killer's face popped on screen in the loading segments RT mentioned he was scared and there was just something creepy about the guy.

[@ariannasilva4462]

@@damocles7406 Oh you mean that. I forgot too RT points out it's weird he knew Shaun was kidnapped right away.

[@ReiAnikaAyanami]

@@EatyourWafflesplease lmao my exact thoughts

[@JackedThor-so]

This looks like a game adaptation of the room. The weird nonsensical dialogue, the stuff inhuman movements of literally everyone, and general "wait what?-ness" of the whole thing. I sat there, baffled, at the birthday party plate scene. "Be careful with the plates." "Ok." *Sets plates down the way anyone would "I told you to be careful!" ??? How is... you know... placing them on the table indicative of not being careful or a threat to them breaking? God, say what you want about the studio that makes those Until Dawn (Dark Pictures?) Games, they look and feel a billion times better than this.

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

The chick that Scott talks to even looks like Tommy Wiseau

[@anerrorhasoccurred8727]

David Cage just doesn’t seem to like women tbh 💀

[@cajjij2]

Another fun fact I've seen no one mention besides the cut paranormal stuff Originally, it was gonna be, depending on your actions throughout the game, the killer would be 1 of the 4 protagonists. However, it seems this was cut super early, which is why Shelby has the scene of him finding the dead shop owner and being confused as fuck as to when he died, even though the ending sequence shows HE was the one who did it. Likely these two scenes would've been in different routes, and not in the same mostly linear one.

[@moosenman]

That would have been interesting but I think a bit hard considering branching routes might mix up scenes and stitching it together would be a bit weird.

[@boat378]

Still baffled Jason died from that. Like Ethan's back was to the car and everything, basically a blast shield surrounding Jason. Still not as powerful as the fridge though.

[@zipdakill]

Not only that, that car definitely stopped short of them before it ever got a chance to hit them or run them over. There was no way they were even touched by that thing

[@fataliecatalie899]

Yeah no Ethan crushed Jason when he tackled him

[@flowersandcheesecake1710]

@@zipdakill And I wasn’t even going that fast to kill somebody even a child would live

[@coffinmyface4237]

@@fataliecatalie899 that doesn't kill people with modern medicine and a ems response time like that

[@youtube-kit9450]

Ethan's college football days took over and he just punted the kid's head into the pavement. Only way I also can see the origami killer interpreting a father literally jumping in between the car and the son, literally giving his own body as a meatshield to try to make the kid survive against a ton of steel and death as somehow insufficient.

[@GameJade]

The true crime is the way all the people pronounce origami wrong

[@Aaron_Stever]

Origarmi

[@zipdakill]

OrigAme

[@DavidJCobb]

origammy

[@thephony1651]

Oregano

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

oreygamy

[@succubunnie]

I love how Ethan takes the full impact of that car and gets a 6 month coma/concussion combo but Jason is the one that dies. Grace could’ve cared less about Ethan in that moment 😂

[@pokegurl123456]

The way that woman are portrayed in this game lowkey creeps me out... Is it just me?

[@FreckledGoddess]

That's David Cage for you, a slimey pos.

[@mittarikinz]

It's not just you, David Cage is just generally a creep

[@mittarikinz]

@@_stillborn They're written in a specifically misogynistic type of badly David Cage said it himself

[@MsZsc]

@trakina i don't think it's impossible, besides david cage is another special kind of being to say he represents all men somehow

[@tubthungusbychumbungus]

No its david cage

[@noraisthor]

David cage when a game doesn’t have at least 10 sex scenes: 😨😨😨😨

[@blazerheata6479]

David cage when there's no strip club in games: 🤢🤢🤢🤢

[@honkstheclown8631]

David Cage when a female character goes unassaulted 😵😵😵😵

[@sonofpears4691]

The police suspecting Ethan as being the origami killer makes so little sense that it honestly makes my brain hurt. The main evidence they found is that he has an origami figure however surely the police already know that every victim is given an origami figure so why is there first response that obviously it is because he is the killer and not because he is a known victim and all victims have origami. Another question is why the fuck do they think he would kidnap his own son if he wanted to kill his own son surely he would’ve done that first.

[@youtube-kit9450]

They could've very easily made it that Scott was the driver that killed Jason. He was a prolific serial killer. Then, just on a normal day, he accidentally drives over the braindead son of some rando. He went into shock over driving over a child by accident. He starts blaming the father who's in a coma. He starts planning all the insane stuff for the father because in his deranged mind, it was the father's fault the child died, not his. With all the planning, he doesn''t kill anymore since his obsession is in a coma and all that. Boom, you get why Scott would be so elaborate and insanely committed to punishing Ethan, why the killer exactly didn't hit during Ethan's coma, and makes it at least feasible that Ethan was the killer, got knocked out, then in desperation did some stupid shit with his child to cover his tracks as a "victim". Not gonna say this is smart (in fact it's still contrived and dumb), but at least the premise would at least kinda work.

[@sonofpears4691]

@@youtube-kit9450 the only problem is that it removes his alibi but their is still no evidence to support ethan being the killer and it would still make no sense for them to think Ethan was the killer. It would make sense if ethan decided not to go to the cops like maybe he saw the letter earlier and through a combination of not wanting to get held up in a police station and wanting to prove that he was a good father, he doesn’t tell the police. Then the police discover that Shaun has gone missing and begin to suspect Ethan as the killer because they think thats the reason he didn’t report his kid as missing because he didn’t want the police to potentially find out.

[@youtube-kit9450]

@@sonofpears4691 As I said, "it's still contrived and dumb", but at least the police just look desperate by clinging at "hey the killer only was active when he wasn't in a coma" instead of looking like complete morons. Nothing can fix the writing, but small changes can at least make small improvements.

[@cosmicburger7706]

Probably cause he annihilated his son

[@claralima1967]

It's like they forget anyone with paper and fingers can make an origami

[@John.McMillan]

The fact that the people in this game sound more robotic than the actual robots in Detroit: Become Human is genuinely impressive.

[@sethgleason3471]

It’s amazing that by having none of the characters call the police or an ambulance, they were doing brilliant commentary on the broken medical and criminal justice systems in the US

[@thoopsy]

When the lady at the end was like "if we all go out with our hands up, they can't shoot us then!" it was like girl. Where have you been.

[@spidey5558]

​@@thoopsyEspecially when she said, "They'll shoot you dead before you can say anything," _literal seconds ago_

[@SoapyTurtles]

I have yet to watch a gameplay of this where someone doesn't spam the "JASON!" button. Like EVERYONE does it and it gets me every. single. time. Like I know it's meant to be a serious moment and I know what's about to happen, but the complete lack of urgency or enthusiasm Ethan's (honestly, everyone's) voice actor has in that moment is hysterical. lmao

[@CeHee123]

It's hard to do emotional delivery when a French actor is trying his best just to not let their accent slip. They should have just gotten English-speaking actors for the dub instead of re-using the French ones.

[@smallandstressed2364]

I think it’s just human nature to spam any button

[@ohnonotthemagain7088]

@@CeHee123 honestly, who gives a shit if they kept using their accents anyway? this game has much bigger problems than an American city having an unexpectedly high French population.

[@TheMasterUnity]

@@ohnonotthemagain7088 I mean if it was set in New Orleans it'd make sense

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

also ethans va (pascal langdale) is british having to do an american accent, i dont think he ever slips but it definitely makes his speech sound more unnatural. combine that with the shitty writing and its a double whammy

[@ochahap]

has david cage ever actually seen humans interact lmao

[@NihilistCoomerLord]

I doubt he’s ever met a woman in his life.

[@notjimpickens7928]

@@NihilistCoomerLord he has, but he's apparently groped and treated them like garbage according to many people who came out last year about him.

[@spidey5558]

​@@notjimpickens7928 why am I not surprised

[@notjimpickens7928]

@@spidey5558 because david "all women in my games are WH*RES" cage is driven by lust and ego, ive never seen him not indulge in his gross sexual abuse fantasies that he seems to think, are artistic and not a clear fetish.

[@cgkase6210]

He has. He got mad at them for doing bits and improv together. Just listen to Brian talking about his work with Clancy for Detroit

[@maxhowlett9661]

My favourite fact about this game is that David Cage initially had a supernatural element with some kind if psychic connection between ethan and the origami killer (possibly similar to Beyond 2 Souls gimmick). However, in order to make the game more 'grounded' and 'realistic', David Cage cut it entirely very last minute. This is why there is so much that makes zero sense and goes completely unexplained in the final game. Specifically Ethans 'blackouts' where he finds himself on the corner of the street where the origami killer was born with a piece of origami in his hand. In the final game, it makes zero sense meaning the whole "Ethan=Killer" thing becomes maybe the worst and most confusing red herring of all time.

[@faitharnett8177]

*finds out there’s an optional sex scene in the game* RT: “I’m sure there’s a metaphor in there somewhere.”

[@catherineperry5099]

And a metaphor in her... I'll see myself out

[@myfirsttea]

I mean if your son just walks away even with you specifically telling him not to go anywhere while you guys are in a crowded place. Then it's probably that child's fate for his life to end right then and there.

[@TheRealRusDaddy]

Some times it seems like that like the kid is physically incapable of listening or willfully ignores being told and is shocked when they die anyway

[@TF2CrunchyFrog]

Not only that -- first "Jason" wandered away into the shopping mall even while his dad was still telling him not stay... then wanders outside and crosses the street for no reason... and then "Jason" just blindly walked out into traffic, not looking left or right, not even running, just walking into the path of a car without even looking at it. The kid is, what, ten? Twelve? Not two years old! He clearly wasnt deaf, so... yeah, too dumb to live syndrome.

[@deedeedan8681]

Especially if his dumbass walks across a street and then decides to run back across that street into oncoming traffic

[@randomlyrapid8996]

I think the thing is Ethan could've literally just walked over and grabbed him and then pay for the balloons

[@TirOrah]

@@randomlyrapid8996 Hold up buddy, are you saying we should put common sense in Cage's magnum opus?! Heresy!

[@jackdog06]

Why do so many of the characters in this game experience massive medical emergencies on a regular basis?! Character 1: Unexplained blackouts Character 2: Severe and debilitating asthma which is referenced exactly once Character 3: Massive drug dependency NPC: Sudden (previously unmentioned) heart failure

[@EatyourWafflesplease]

not to mention all the various types of injuries they sustain

[@coolpizzacook]

Hey, you have to give David Cage credit. He mentioned asthma TWICE! One was just him buying an inhaler but hey

[@jackdog06]

@@coolpizzacook Oh man, my fault. David Cage, you've done it again!

[@hotscottrulz]

Don’t forget Character 4: Insomnia with a weirdly specific exception.

[@anerrorhasoccurred8727]

[tw for self harm] Not to mention Character 5 fatally wounding herself and losing a LOT of blood in the process, but we’re supposed to believe she was immediately fine again 💀

[@Nightmare-pj4fg]

1:02:30 Rain is water. The game is Heavy Rain. Thus Heavy Water. The human body is mostly water. You weren’t Heavy enough water for the game. Therefore to prepare for its tasks, you needed to drink some water.

[@Lune0101]

had to pause the video to comment, i really appreciate the warning at 38:29 . i have struggled with self-harm a lot in the past, it can be so triggering to see things like that while going through it yourself. thanks for looking after everyone rt! (and if anyone reading this is having a hard time, you got this! i believe in you, things will get better. thanks for being here

[@MsZsc]

dont play the ending of beyond two souls then

[@theflickchick9850]

RT is great for warnings. I wish there was one for Jason's death bc as stupid as it is, it did f me up for a day. But you can't cover all the bases so I'm not really upset.

[@binbows2258]

@@theflickchick9850 a whole day?? really???

[@xxferalfreakxx]

@@binbows2258 I mean, they watched a child get crushed by a car. A fictional child, but still a child nonetheless. Perfectly understandable to be horrified by it

[@KOTEBANAROT]

shouldve been building up immunity by watching videos of irl children dying like i have smh

[@alienjesus796]

I love how the woman with insomnia decides to incriminate herself for no reason, by helping a man she barely knows and is clearly involves in some dangerous business (she suspects is the MAFIA) escape

[@christopherjohn7442]

Through her conversation if Ethan discovers her notebook it’s implies she knew who he was the whole time so it’s more like she was desperately stupid for a story

[@abyschaaf6985]

i hate that Jaydens "good ending" implies he's suffering brain damage from the ARI its really weird that even the player makes all the right choices he still has such an ominous ending

[@cyberneticsquid]

Yeah, I was so confused about that. Was it meant to be a sequel hook or something?

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

@@cyberneticsquid the game was actually meant to have follow up dlcs, but only one was ever released

[@arrontheprotogen9276]

@@iwakeupandboomimarat any info on the dlc??

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

@@arrontheprotogen9276 if u wanna look into it/play the released dlc its called the taxidermist, i think like it focuses on madison tho idk if the ar thing comes up

[@arrontheprotogen9276]

@@iwakeupandboomimarat oh okay, thx for the context

[@Brione30]

50:21 While this man is pretending to confess to murdering several children, a freaking Wallace and Gromit movie is playing in the background