P7S Guide - Pandaemonium Abyssos Savage Seventh Circle (Agdistis)

[@el_mitcholio]

Still blows my mind listening to someone I used to raid with absolutely blowing up. My dude, these guides are INCREDIBLE. You're doing such a great job for the community. Much love - Jake Mitchole.

[@stu5405]

Hopes to see P8S soon. Can't wait to see your guides.

[@KonbiniBento]

Single-handedly carrying this tier with all these guides. Super fast, concise, simple, and useful! Thank you!

[@Sylvr369]

In case you wanted to know, the "bulls" are from a side quest in Elpis. It's called an Io, and it was created by one of the researchers there in an attempt to make the ultimate apex predator. Long story short, he asks our WoL for advice on changes to make to it, and the final product ends up being a Behemoth. So basically, they're proto-behemoths.

[@DraconicCatgirl]

That side quest was great, the researcher just casually dropping that it gave it Charybdis and Meteor, as you stand there realizing what the fuck you just caused.

[@xuto2693]

LORE IN MY RAIDING VIDEO???????

[@GarnetDust24]

@@xuto2693 more likely than you think

[@debrucey]

Oh, he was saying "bull" 😂

[@PicoPhi]

lmao I was thinking that too. "It's an Io, you uncultured swine!"

[@DanniCupcake]

As a visual/kinesthetic learner, I really appreciate your guides. Always so easy to follow! Thank you.

[@scjar1231]

Thank you! Like your Animated Guides! Thanks for your Hard work!

[@Emexiv]

This timing is brilliant, just recently cleared P5 and 6 thanks to your amazing guides. Thank you for taking the time to make them so detailed, they’ve been a godsend in prog to understand all the mechanics so thank you so much!

[@GardrexArts]

My static is new, and we are clearing because of your guides. THANK YOU! I'm the shot caller for our group, so I've been spending a couple of hours per fight taking detailed + condensed notes to reference based on your videos. You are awesome!

[@DeeSanuts]

these guides have been a blessing this tier. appreciate the effort put into making these

[@loganmcclure6439]

ive been clearing in stride with the guides releasing so far, so glad for these

[@BriBreeBri]

Bless. I just finished 6 last night and was dying because no 7 this morning to glance over. Thank you so much for your guides! They've been a great help!!

[@haribovegasd6244]

Me too XD

[@chilledlikeice]

Thanks for the guide. I've really been struggling this raid tier with the color choices used for the debuffs due to color blindness so it's extremely helpful to be able to see the debuff icons ahead of time so I know what I should look for instead. Thank you!

[@goldbane]

your guides are so wonderful and have helped me and my static so much, thank you for everything you do!

[@Mimo7.7.7]

thank you hector very cool

[@diiiibaaaa]

thank you so much for making these visual guides, my static has always had issues learning mechanics but your videos have made it so much easier on us!!

[@mypurpletie]

Inviolate Purgation is so much easier to understand after watching this. Appreciate the guide 👍

[@collamus6901]

you release the next raid guide right as im on enrage of the last one! The timing couldnt have been more perfect!

[@helencrowther1565]

I think this is your prettiest guide yet!

[@vesperfromtheinternet5588]

pog strats as usual, but i also really love your animations for this one. the lil player circles actually do "hop" in the air when the platforms are created! it's so cute

[@widdlefish]

these guides make it so easy to learn the fight and how you explain things makes me be able to understand what is going on even if i need to look back i have a general idea of what to expect

[@ErikByrwa]

Great guide. Thanks for the high quality graphics and explination. Can't wait to give it a go this weekend.

[@krystalynnx]

Thanks!

[@zanido9073]

By far the best ff14 raid guides out there, amazing work my man. Too bad already did all my p7s prog yesterday! Oh well at least this should help for pf clear today!

[@Zen-Champ]

You broke down Harvest perfectly here, even enough to where my pea brain could grasp it on first watch. Excellent stuff

[@JagaimoLoco]

this guide dropped about the exact time that i cleared p6s in pf today by the graces of your cachexia vids. if ever there were a sign to press on...!

[@TOjJeto]

Bless you for spreading that War harvest strat, I did it with my group some days ago and it's so much more simple then all the others.

[@manbeard8678]

do you really not die even with pink tether?

[@TOjJeto]

@@manbeard8678 It's spooky, but no it's not absolute kill dmg. You might die if there's no mitigation, but if there are some (like AST neutral, WHM wings, shields, dps self mitigation) then it's easily survivable.

[@yonahanjooni]

once again another day saved by hector visual guides

[@baldizzy]

Just finished P6S last night, and this drops? You've got one clear on me Hector, thank you very much!

[@dunkmcsnicker8776]

Doing this fight currently with my group, these guides are a godsend, i do wish p6s enrage was her just destroying the arena and we plummet to our deaths

[@JudgeAnnibal]

An easy way to recognize the bird/tower safespots if you're in PF: tower safe spot is always on the 3 vertical lines on the floor on your tower, while the bird bait is always on base (where there's a gap in the motif) of the big flowery/moth decoration on the floor adjacent to the tower opposite your bird.

[@anabelkay]

i think there's a mistake in the guide for famine's harvest, but it's 2am and i might just be confused after smashing my head against this fight for several hours - in the snapshot at 23:27 where all the mechanics of famine's harvest are going off, it appears that the minotaur conal cleaves are originating from each player who has the tether, rather than the minotaurs themselves towards the tethered players. i think that's a key distinction (especially in the guide, visually) because, for example, the minotaur next to R2, which is cleaving towards M1 is actually pointing its cleave a few more degrees clockwise than depicted (since the point of origin is the minotaur, not R2). this can kill M2, who is likely going to get clipped by the edge of that cleave and take double the cleave damage. just wanted to let you know as that tripped me up a bit in figuring out why some people were dying during famine despite stretching their tethers out and seemingly being in the correct positions per your guide. as always, amazing work with the video, thank you for explaining everything SO clearly and getting us these videos at lightning speed, you are the best!

[@anabelkay]

*the minotaur next to R2, which is cleaving towards M1 is actually pointing its cleave a few more degrees COUNTER-clockwise than depicted (since the point of origin is the minotaur, not R2). apologies, exhausted raider brainrot

[@jen_esse]

^^

[@johnsnow1749]

Just got P6S down and here you come to save my week.

[@bacondoublecheeseburgerxl8573]

Just got to p7s and was waiting on you making a guide xD thank you!

[@ctrlsoul]

It’s worth noting that the aoe in purg is HUGE, healers don’t forget to top off everyone while moving to other platform doing sleepo movement

[@Lil_Hard_Dad]

Great guide, huge help. The Fruit 5 method isn't 100% foolproof, since you don't always get exactly 1 tower in every quadrant. We solve this by priority where clockwise from 12, NE quadrant takes the first tower, SE quadrant takes the 2nd, etc.

[@Aethytub]

Thank you for the guide, Hector :D

[@sparton1172000]

In the middle of progging and this drops. pog

[@muddledwhitemage]

Awesome guide, terrified to try this as a healer but it'll be fun!

[@VioletShinobi]

You can just as easily do War's harvest by stretching the mino's tethers away and have the birds on the other platform.

[@XIVthFunyarinpa]

I've been stuck in harvest hell for what feels like eternity, bless yah

[@Wolfer02]

A little tip of something I noticed, and at this point I think is always true, but Famine's Harvest's 2fruit platform seems to always be one of the north ones. I tend to go to the north bridge and pick a platform to stare at (NW), then go to either it or NE depending on what I see.

[@Lin117]

Yessssss I was waiting for this

[@Inhaledcorn]

So, the three harvest mechanics are named after 3 of the "4" horsemen of the apocalypse. (Famine, War, Conquest, Death, though Conquest has been dropped in recent times for Pestilence).

[@custardpup6385]

Hector you beautiful bastard youre hard carrying me through this tier

[@JuliTheBee]

Man your guides are life safers for me

[@frbny88]

Just cleared 6 earlier, this came in clutch!

[@MerchantEarth57]

I just finshed P6S today, great timing ^^

[@epicserpents7586]

thank u for the guides babe

[@dozingdu5k]

your guides rule man. thank you

[@lebanc571]

I've been waiting for this..

[@corkedfever]

Hector, you're such a bro making this shit easy now. Thanks!

[@tamermaher6387]

Mah boy Hector carrying this tier.

[@llamapi3]

Get this man more subs.

[@chrisropherboulay]

This is so awesome 😎

[@pendrion]

There is an easier strat for the War Harvest. The general gist of it is, just go opposite of what is tethered to you. So if it's on a plattform you would make your way to the opposing bridge and if it's on a bridge you'd go to the opposing plattform.

[@curiouserthing]

yep this is a great strat and seems easy in PF -- the big caveat is that the N-S minotaur player should be careful to *bisect* the adjacent yak and bird players since the cleave comes close to both of them (i.e. usually that player should rotate their minotaur tether a *little bit* CCW, but not much) alternatively, if the NW bird player is aware that they're the NW bird player, they can simply choose to stay on the NW platform and point outward -- but this isn't necessary

[@HectorHectorson]

Interesting. Where do the 4 bull/yak tethers go in this strat?

[@Febz]

@@HectorHectorson Two on the opposite bridge and one on each circle next to the bridge

[@UtogiMaps]

Specifically the Death and War strats shown in that link are 10/10 for braindead static PF assignment

[@marais9243]

This is the much better war strat. Minotaur tethers get stretched out too.

[@cryptomango4787]

I started late this tier and thanks to your guides I was able to Clear P5s and P6s with in my first week let’s see if I can make p7s in the same week !

[@pasteldreams5413]

This fight is so much easier than p6s it feels like a literal cakewalk in comparison. Tysm for the guide!

[@celcius_87]

Excellent guide thank you. I like the 2nd easier strat.

[@Aitherea]

Another great guide \o/

[@IcyBleuie]

based death harvest

[@MistaHoward]

Your guides are great, much better than any other youtube guide and the only ones I prefer over just looking at toolboxes. However i regretfully have to tell you that I can't unhear you sounding exactly like a mix of Ben Shapiro and Howard Hamlin.

[@aaronjoye649]

Hector I hope you're currently working on P8S guide! There are resources out there but yours have been really good this tier. Thanks for the efforts and help!!!

[@Breadumi]

There is a static position (everyone always stands in the same spot relative to the yak) Death's Harvest that uses up the two tank invulns but is extremely simple to execute. I'd recommend doing that one instead since tank invulns on the busters in this fight aren't really that useful thanks to the bleeds.

[@Laucher-]

is it 100% consistent? if so where can i find this start?

[@Breadumi]

@@Laucher- I did on my pug clear successfully every single time, the positioning isn't precise at all. You'd have to Google it since I don't think YT allows links in comments

[@burnersforhim]

yo 😂 sleepo is CRAZY! this game has the greatest raiders ever

[@TheSlickmicks]

that line in the video made me think my monitor was broken

[@Meitricide]

For war's harvest, you can just have minotaurs aimed at the birds. The bull on the bridge opposite the bird, that player runs across to behind the bird, the bird player for that one runs onto the bridge behind the minotaur. The other bull on the bridge, again aim it at the bird and that bird player goes to the opposite side, which will be the empty bridge. Yak players shoot out in intercardinals, with H2 in this case pointing it directly at the bull with nobody behind it. Or, really they could just scoot in a bit more. Either way, mech resolved.

[@DrakeWurrum]

I find it easiest to figure out the spread/stack debuffs by just looking exclusively at my debuffs. If I have spread 1, then I know I'm stack 2. Spread 2 means I'll stack first.

[@msoltyspl]

Hmm, YT is momentarily killing any reply with any semblance of a link to strats / pictures. Great guide, though for war's harvest there is an easy fully symmetric setup - although I'm not sure if it works in practice (had no chance to try it yet).

[@ugottalongway2go]

haha oh no this means i have to go in and do p7s now lmfao just as i thought i was done for now :') cheers mate

[@Dualwieldingbucklers]

I should be picking up my clear sometime today or tomorrow, can't wait!

[@R82067]

Still in p6s clearing but at least I can watch the guide

[@TrueHunter999]

5:32 how about the safe spot on the NW of the platform? 🤔

[@patrickkershaw4885]

I would suggest a different way for Wars Harvest that allows the tethers to stretch. Start on the Yak platform (and assume south) and check your tether, if you are tethered to the minotaur on the north walkway move to the south of the Yak platform. If you are tethered to the Yak go to the NE, NW, W and E of the platform NW(MT/M1), NE(OT/M2), W(H1/R1), E(H2/R2) these should be safe as the cleave isn't that wide. If you are tethered to the Minotaur on the adjacent walkway move down the empty walkway to the platform with the bird to stretch your tether. If you are tethered to the bird go down the walkway with the minotaur to bait your birds on that platform.

[@XIVthFunyarinpa]

NO MORE HARVEST STRATS

[@walnutware]

21:00 um hector i acrually prefer sleepo purg and i thought it was kind of interesting where someone in aether party finder (lyle freerider, catuar) decided to put up ILLEGAL: markers.

[@PurplestLink]

I would recommend at least showing the stretch tether strat for war in a follow up, where everyone just goes to the absolute max distance and lightning tethers spread on the far bridge and the edge of the platforms on either side

[@haleyrenfro334]

Hector coming in clutch! ♡

[@matthewto7406]

In Meteor DC, for the stack/spread strat...the norm seems to be have the stack placed in front of the bridges, and the rest adjust accordingly. I hate this strat

[@irogt]

I like the original purg strat but 1, I'm not a healer and more importantly 2, I raid in PF. I have to mitigate risks and sleepo strat does that.

[@TS-mk3jh]

Would you be willing to do a JP Harvest pocket guide? The Party Finder seems to prefer that strat and the diagrams do not explain themselves well.

[@jojoandreou6794]

sleepo for sure!

[@stu5405]

Very great and wonderful guide as always. May I ask what's your thought on Tanks Invul Death's Harvest strat? I did it with JP PF and it works very well. (and braindead)

[@HectorHectorson]

I haven't had a chance to try that strat yet. Given how much tank damage there is throughout the fight, I'm hesitant to give up the easier tankbusters to make DH easier, but the idea of fixed positions is definitely a winner.

[@stu5405]

@@HectorHectorson I have some experience in JP PF using the DH strat as you describe, the most problem I met is the position is not fixed. For example in the video the NW platform , MT OT H2 is on the North side of platform, and the NE platform, you need 2 DPS to the south side. The PF using this strat sometimes emphasis that it's "bird relative spread" but ppl sometimes just go the the same spot and clip each other. (Just in my PF experience, I only did 5 PF for this strat so maybe it's not very objective. And the DPS check is tight in week 1 for PF and if you mess up in the DH it feels like wasting 9 mins, very frustrating ;w;)

[@tjevans2003]

Our group feels like there has to be a better strat for War's Harvest that lets you break the minotaur tether. I wonder what the devs intended strat was...

[@AdiosSalvi]

Will you be updating War's Harvest strat there's 2 variations also no?

[@OstrichManx]

Hi Hector, have you considered sharing any of the assets you use? I make diagrams to quickly refence for my raid and it would be very helpful to use some the assets you use in your videos (for example, the different fruits.) Thanks!

[@xuto2693]

Me, a WHM/SGE main in the first 90 seconds: My brother in christ, I don't have enough buttons for this.

[@darkcryogenix]

What about the Fixed Death's Harvest (tank invuln) strat?

[@gogogo123454321]

War's Harvest All Far strat is a lot easier, do you plan on making a video about it?

[@ridleyroid9060]

I'm still on p5s, but can't hurt to study up. People seem to kill p6s quickly.

[@phandor]

Really nice guides Hector. I like the animated style you do. Just one thing, war`s harvest can spawn the minotaurs both next to the bull, so your rule to start there and both birds go to the other platform won`t be consistent there but it should resolve easily as well. I actually like the strat with both birds going to the opposite bridge, bc its easy to remember and you dont need to preposition. Same goes for the bull tethers. Only the Mino tethers need to go to different platforms but with birds on the bridges it`s much space. Keep up the really nice work with those guides!

[@trolly1834]

Are you sure it's even possible for both minotaurs to spawn next to the bull? I've checked over 40 different POVs, and none of them had the pattern you described on war's harvest.

[@testtester6631]

For purgation brainded strat, I started p7s PF prog today, we did it exactly like that except stack was middle, we used markers for the spread pos, and mid was the stack, it's the same thing, it doesn't matter where the spread is, it can be on "m1"/"m2"/"r1"/"r2", its all the same. What's important is to decide a fixed spot. We used mid because it's way more easier to say "spread on markers" stack mid in between them. Don't ask me how I got the markers, found em in a group before and saved them. basically they show the "m1"/"m2"/"r1"/"r2" things. Good for birds safespots too, especially the tight ones inbetween. But they helped a lot, we went from pepega troll to 90% consistency on purgation, got practice on harvests, and 5% enrage wipe twice, didn't clear, but we were not perfect on harvests, and dps was on limit, gear limitation and some skill too. and last 3 harvests were just random fest, sometimes we got em right sometimes not. But ff6 went from 0% consistency to almost 100%. Those markers and stack in middle strat is bis.

[@raishinshah]

26:00 That's a lie. Even with shields and own mitigation skills, range and mages still gets 1 hit KO'ed by mino. I hate this phase the most

[@andonemaniac8220]

Why some people pick inu over far war baffles me

[@SyncOnari]

I wish you covered sleepo first because most people will see the first strat and just jump right in trying to practice it. Very good guide, however! I'm down to 23% within one lockout!

[@StratoJunon]

I was so confused as to what "bowl" was referring to.

[@HectorHectorson]

Apologies for my awful midwestern accent! XD

[@mattle10048]

I remember when doing the old Purgation strat I kept thinking there's no way a 3rd floor savage mechanic should be this hard and this punishing. It kind of makes me think the sleepo strat is actually what was intended. It was very satisfying pulling it off in PF however but it'll be nice to use sleepo for reclears instead

[@mattle10048]

also wow I really like your war's harvest strategy, might be the best one I've seen yet

[@aliasonarcotics]

you kind of just ignore the third platform with sleepo, i don't think that's intentional

[@zealous404]

When is the final tankbuster combo for this fight

[@HectorHectorson]

It’s the tankbuster just before the birds and towers mechanic. From that point on, tanks can just use their cooldowns to mitigate autos or support the party.

[@zealous404]

@@HectorHectorson Thank you!

[@KaiSenko]

Hot of the press, god bless

[@miascora8121]

Hey, im rlly a bit confused about the sleep strtat in this guide :x shouldnt be one of the healers at the edge at 20:07 (cuz healers has 2nd stackmarker) ?

[@HectorHectorson]

The healers (and MT) are just underneath the OT. All tanks and healers are stacked together at that point. Sorry for not making that clear!

[@miascora8121]

ahh ok everything makes more sense now :D thanks for this really nice guide again, they are allways so helpfull

[@10pcWings]

Whatever happened to calling the circular AoEs "splash". Everyone calls them "cleaves" now.

[@nanonyme5944]

I'm slightly confused about Inviolate Purgation, what are the positives for the first strat ? the second just seems better on all aspects, so why would a group chose the first one ? Is the second one a bit more reliant on perfect positionning / team coordination, with more room for mistakes for the first one ?

[@HectorHectorson]

The second strat has very slightly tighter spread positions, but is easier to heal and much easier to know where to go. 100% only use the second strat now. I only show the first one in case someone gets a stubborn PF group unwilling to move away from the day 1 strat.

[@nanonyme5944]

@@HectorHectorson Alright, thanks for your answer (and for the guide :D)

[@ShadowLightIze]

Why is War's Harvest done like this? Can't you just aim each individual mechanic outwards and not have to do any thinking? You'd probably get better uptime that way too - seems like R1 and M1 can get out of melee at the moment. If they all aim outwards, R1 can cheat around to the right side and stay in melee while M1, M2, and R2 all stay inside the boss' hitbox.