Heel Toe Technique with Speed Cobra

Coz of terrible Back Pain I suffered,
I changed to Heel Toe user and stop using Swivel.
the differences between these two techniques
for me I think, Heel Toe save your energy..
I am firstly Swivel Guy, you will know if
you watch my old 2019 videos in my Channel.
At first, Heel Toe is difficult to understand how to do Double Strokes.
Be patient, start from 170 BPM ( 85 BPM 32th notes )
Even I cannot understand until 2019 (
suffering terrible back pain and can't Swivel no more )
So be patient and find the way yourself " how to do Double Strokes ".
There are several motions how to do Heel Toe
I learned this Hee Toe technique from the videos of Francesco Paoli, Thomas Cremier and Jayson Wydau.
Thanks to them for their useful videos.

[@brandonbaker7972]

Sounding like you have some tap shoes on! Awesome!

[@michaelcm9283]

thanks

[@balrogDCLXVI]

Sounds really great, but this is the drawback of heel-toe: it depends like 50% on the tightness of the drum head. I have only practice pads and they don't have this crazy rebound, so it is way more difficult to achieve high speeds on them

[@morbidmanmusic]

yeah, and no volume, or dynamics really. Good for one thing only. Plus all the muffling.. yuck. But still better than triggers.

[@michaelcm9283]

yeah. Heel Toe Depend on tightness of Skin, coz it needs powerful second strokes for long Double Bass Bars. but you can practice Heel Toe on washing foam practice pad, at night I always practice like that for 90% silence practicing ( Marthyn Joaovic uploaded a video about practicing on Washing Foam Bass Drum Practice pad )

[@Lupine.]

Yeah, it offers no opportunity to mix-in natural mic'ing to combine with trigger samples.

[@Killenmachine05]

@@michaelcm9283 this is honestly also a huge part of where triggering comes into play, tune your batter heads for the tension you need, then use a kick sample to get the sound you want.

[@midinerd]

Just depends on how you move your feet. This 'heel toe" method in this video looks more like pressure-bouncing, or drags. I'd have to see it start at like 80bpm 16th notes and work it's way up. I do heeltoe with a full -actual- heel stomp and toe roll-off and it's pretty damn loud, because the beaters are heavy as well (tama iron cobra). I could use lighter beaters, adjust the beater angle some, and get everything all close in - tighten the fuck out of hte bassdrum head, and then pressure-bounce the beater twice, but then (like in this thread describes) you have to use a trigger. if I were truly just going to do drags & trigger stuff, I'd use one of those huge alesis mesh-head elec bassdrums cuz that's like throwing a bowling ball into a trampoline

[@cpt.drucifer4866]

Ahh yes. The old quarter trick. Max attacks. Cool video.

[@adamkirchoff5714]

Absolutely fantastic!!!

[@michaelcm9283]

thanks

[@haristola84]

Alhamdulillah, ada kemanisan dc2 cip. Mantiaeppp 👍

[@enemyofmyenemy6713]

i'm still trippin on the Beautiful pillows using in the kicks. " mom's yelling... where's the damn couch pillows..?"

[@johnmcaulay5938]

Nice

[@brendanmcgowan8841]

This is the best video I have seen on heel-toe. Nice job teaching and playing! 👍 I know a lot of double-kick drummers are using longboard pedals now, but they are a bit hard to get used to for me. Pedal thoughts?

[@michaelcm9283]

nope. you can do Swivel or Heel Toe with Short Boart Pedals. I seen a lot of guys doing fast double Strokes with Short Board Pedals ( Axis Shortboard, Pearl Shortboard or whatever $50, $100 Double pedal ) you only need to do suitable pedal setting and daily practice routime to catch your goal.

[@BLASTBEATOLOGY]

NICE

[@channelthegetdown8495]

I too suffered from massive back pain on a fixed drum throne. Gotta get gas shock drum throne. You spend three days on fixed drum stool and you can hardly walk when it's over. Get a "Roc-n-Soc" , they ain't cheap but it'll save you tons of trouble. Smooth playing bruh🤙

[@MrFchank]

Been using a Roc-n-Soc motion throne for about 20 years and it's fantastic !

[@morbidmanmusic]

your back is now bouncing. Not always better. And the air canister dies. I use to sell those.

[@MD-zo7cl]

SPRINGS MAXED OUT.👍

[@elgardatxodrumsingravito6400]

Its good🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@Forestduck1]

Nice man! very clean! ( you sure have a lot of dampening stuffed into those kick drums 🙂)

[@michaelcm9283]

sure. coz i like sound of these fully stuffed Bass Drums.

[@electricbassist8009]

0:29 i love this fatboy engine sound 😆

[@Glurbschnurb]

So damn clean! Thanks for saving me from buying a dyna-sync, it looks like my speed cobras can do heel toe like a beast. But, that means that the issue isn't the gear, but.... practice? :/ Subscribed.

[@michaelcm9283]

yes. you can do Heel Toe with Speed Cobra. you only need to do suitable Pedal setting for Heel Toe . if you want to test some Drive ( Like as Belt Drive, Strap Drive ) I uploaded another Video in which I make 0.01 dollar Sand Paper Drive 🙂

[@michaelcm9283]

if you feel Your Tama Pedal is bad, Change new Ball Bearings and Springs rather than buying new ones. I never changed New Ball Bearings coz my Country Buma have no Good Brand Bearings. I cannot buy new bearings. if you wanna change it is easy to buy in your country. I think. the model is 608Z

[@Glurbschnurb]

@@michaelcm9283 I don't think it is bad, in fact I love it. I just need to practice my heel toe more :) So many on the internet claim you need direct drive for blazing fast speeds.

[@michaelcm9283]

@@Glurbschnurb no. double chain pedal is more powerful for Second Strokes rather than Direct Drive, Belt/Strap Drive. ( Heel Toe uses second strokes ) but it take more energy from Drummer try your best. You can do any other Techniques on these beasts Tama Pedals. for me I think Tama is the best Suitable Pedal Brand. it price is half than Axis, Trick, CzarcieKopyto btw if u interested, I will tell you my Pedal Settings for Heel Toe.

[@xworks7]

@@michaelcm9283 I'm trying to upgrade my drumming, can you make a video with your Speed Cobra Settings and giving some tips for this technique? I'm a ankle kinda swivel guy, but above 220bpm my back hurts, probably the same happened to you... Thanks man, awesome video!

[@dawidtrepkowski642]

Chain drive is more powerfull but demands more control at upstroke to prevent bouncing.

[@user-ur4kv1yh7q]

ヤバい！I want to be able to do it quickly！！

[@michaelcm9283]

To practice at least 6 month or 1 year...to can play 260 BPM... I think

[@fernandoparedes648]

Omg thats lit

[@nergal2741]

what videos of Francesco Paoli about Heel Toe technique are you talking about in particular? If you have a link, would be nice, thx

[@michaelcm9283]

Especially Drum Cam of The Violation.. There is footcam including in it. I Learned the motions of leg while doing Heel Toe in almost every his videos on youtube. And He is the Teacher of DrumsTechniqueAcedamy. ... If you wanna learn, should join this great drum website. bro

[@joelarapasaavedra7615]

Hey gran ejecución del doble pedal Que distancia tiene el mazo del parche??

[@michaelcm9283]

wait. i tell you soon

[@michaelcm9283]

center of beater to bass drum head is 7 inches

[@humbertomendoza4865]

Amazing broooo, do you have a main excercise to control or develope this technique?

[@michaelcm9283]

Yeah I practiced 2 hours daily for this. If you want to get, I will upload a video about practice routime

[@michaelcm9283]

Start from 180 bpm I practiced 180 bpm 1 week long. Then jump to 182, 184 etc. How to practice Firstly I try Heel Toe 1 bar long at selected BPM Then 2 bars, then 4,8,16,32 bars etc. .. Your pedal setting must be ( almost maximum spring tension ) Footboard must be high than normal These two are essential And you need to sit higher.

[@pikeysrock]

I seriously just said out loud "wholly fuk!" when you started going nutty. Do you think you could please do another video just using the one 910 kick pedal? I bought the 910 single for just one kick and cannot buy double bass, so this would be greatly appreciated. 👍

[@michaelcm9283]

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[@michaelcm9283]

I am using HeelToe. Do you mean to play with Single Pedal?

[@pikeysrock]

@@michaelcm9283 Yes, just a single pedal. That would be awesome!

[@michaelcm9283]

Ah. .you will hear. ..the Sound RR.. RR.. or LL.. LL. ...from using single . Coz I am using Heel Toe Doubles Strokes.

[@t.j.hernan4258]

Well damn

[@Equinox601]

He has a pretty extreme angle of the beater to the cam. I wonder how that affects it?

[@michaelcm9283]

More power for second Strokes

[@manosliapakisthestormrider8099]

Amazing sounds how you make this sound?

[@michaelcm9283]

nothing special. tuned the batter head Almost Tightest ( 10/10 ) tuned the reso head lesser tightest ( 8/10 ) and fully muffled. coz I like the tightest responses of Bass Drum.

[@sasibigboi9257]

@@michaelcm9283 Do you even need the reso head at that point pf muffling?

[@michaelcm9283]

@@sasibigboi9257 yes..i do need. even filling a lot of blanket, using reso head and using not is a little different. using reso head make tightier sound

[@Kadaso]

Those two last pedal kicks😅

[@SamiK1989]

Is your bassdrum head tight or loose?

[@michaelcm9283]

almost tightiest

[@DaddyDaveTV]

Can I do it for a cheap price double pedal for heel toe technique?

[@michaelcm9283]

sure. you can do it on any pedal.

[@DaddyDaveTV]

@@michaelcm9283 thanks. You're awesome! :)

[@michaelcm9283]

thanks. you need to do Heel Toe Settings. 1- Maximum Spring Tension 2- Place Footboard High ( but make not to touch with Drum Beater Holder / Drum Shaft ) 3- Sit High ( Make Your Drum Throne High ) 4- place Your Beater High 5 - Your Drum Beater Rod ( must be 55 degree and higher for more power punch coz Heel Toe use second strokes ) 6- Your Bass Head ( all two heads ) should be tighier than ( for quick responses ) believe me ( you can practice any technique on any pedal ) you only need to do suitable Pedal settings for the technique you choose

[@rskat501]

You using direct drive?

[@michaelcm9283]

nope. Chain Drive. oldest model of SC.

[@MrVladalv]

Is it the HP910LWN?

[@michaelcm9283]

hp910LSW

[@barrettwittkamp6166]

Headaches!!!!

[@lemon7878]

У меня там СПИД кобра 310

[@michaelcm9283]

910

[@MrE1981]

Very light, muddled taps.

[@michaelcm9283]

thanks

[@dannysanchez9919]

Whats with all that stuff inside ur bass drums? Your killing the sound

[@michaelcm9283]

Maximum Tightest skins with 1 big Blanket, 1 Big Pillow and 1 small pillow

[@dannysanchez9919]

@@michaelcm9283 ooooooohh

[@mikeroden6631]

The drum heads are way way too tight. Doesn't sound like drums.

[@danielday7699]

Nope.

[@mikeroden6631]

The drum heads don't even give, they should move back and forth when you kick the bass drum. Way too tight.

[@kalebwhite5886]

Well if they are playing extreme metal triggers will be used

[@dankirby5287]

That was probably the worst minute I’ve ever wasted

[@mikeroden6631]

It doesn't even sound like bass drums, it sounds like valves tapping in a motor, sounds terrible.

[@michaelcm9283]

yes. but i like the tightness of skin so i tuned it MAXIMUM