Hegel and the Dialectic | James Lindsay & Michael O'Fallon | Changing Tides Ep. 3

[@Wingedmagician]

That nearly 4 hour podcast James did on Hegel was amazing. I never thought I’d be learning this much about this lol.

[@hubrisnaut]

I need to finish that.

[@Christian-vq8rd]

Is that found on Soundcloud?

[@chrisduncan3323]

Same boat. It’s fascinating as a public school teacher to sit through these utterly insane trainings and then learn what it’s really about as you experience it. The end of western civilization is far more interesting than I imagined. And it is the end. The millions of devotees are pouring out of public schools like mine.

[@Christian-vq8rd]

@@hubrisnaut 👍

[@bradp8168]

This one makes more sense to me. I should go back and listen to the long one again after this.

[@hopelessstrlstfan181]

Holy Cr@p, this guy really found his calling. Any one in military will tell you need to know your enemy in order to defeat your enemy. We need to learn this.

[@CCXRS7]

This is the best KZbin channel barely anyone seems to know about. Their content is so much better than their view count would suggest.

[@silentb2084]

My favorite channel! So glad another podcast is available. I love The Causes of Things and the Sovereign Nations conference speakers!

[@WhenDevilsDuel]

@@jimluebke3869 trust me it isn't. This channel is too easy to target, the smaller the better.

[@iainburgess4859]

Sun Tzu said "know your enemy and know yourself and in 100 battles you will have 100 victories".

[@differous01]

Critical Aufheben says: "You don't know yourself; your unconscious bias drives you to culturally appropriate Sun Tzu, racist. I win!"

[@issifris]

In Germany, ‘aufheben’ actually has three separate meanings dependent on the context: 1) The one James mentioned, which is to keep something (and to keep it well), like an old photograph or the other half of the cookie to eat it later 2) Aufheben as in ‘to pick something up’ 3) Aufheben as in ‘to lift a spell’, which is like returning something into its original or destined-to-be state

[@nicktrice3129]

Wow. That's kinda deep.

[@issifris]

@@nicktrice3129 especially the third meaning is pretty spot on

[@nicktrice3129]

@@issifris yes, especially.

[@saerain]

The alchemical redpill.

[@Fillosophah_king]

thankyou. i was googling that word. i was alos mispeling it. james vocabulary and undertanding of latin, language and its epistemology is really inspiring

[@Vintagevanessa99]

James is a gift to the world

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

It’s good to hear a mathematician explain philosophy. I am an engineer. My world view is pragmatism. I ask the CRT people, “So, we accept these theories. Does this make the schools better, bring back absent fathers, fill the world with POC engineers and Doctors?”

[@mtnbiker4480]

No. It's the famous retort to Stalin's "need to break eggs to make an omelet" saying. Where's the omelet??

[@ganjaericco]

@@mtnbiker4480 The omelette isn't fixing lives or society though, it's revolution.

[@mtnbiker4480]

@@ganjaericco The "omelet" is the utopian vision that is always just around the corner and never actually happens. The broken eggs are the revolution that puts the incompetent people in power.

[@aisthpaoitht]

This guy is no philosopher. He's a charlatan because he is pretending to philosophize, but all he's really doing is finding philosophy that meets his own premise of reality.

[@lexolexoh]

It probably does, yes!

[@newdiscourses]

:)

[@ColinTBlack]

Tremendous gratitude for your work! So far I've listened to near the halfway of the 3hr50min part 3X. Twice at normal speed & once at regular speed. That's my methodology for processing this. ;)

[@spoonsofdoom92]

James you killed this interview!

[@ColinTBlack]

I will be doing the same thing tonight & then in full on Sunday. Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis perhaps...

[@bradp8168]

What was wrong with the Fourier transform analogy? That makes total sense.

[@silentb2084]

Awwwwwwww yissssssss! My favorite dynamic duo.

[@povertime6381]

I should have watched this first before the epic long New Discourses on Hegel. This cleared it up for me.

[@fckyafeelingz4064]

I am so grateful that I had exposure to philosophy as a freshman in high school. If there is a silver lining to this scenario in which we find ourselves, the argument that a philosophy degree is useless is pretty much debunked. Philosophy in tandem with developing a character base in honor and integrity is the yellow-brick road to sanity. Bonus points for it being totally in one's control and NOT handed out from the government

[@johnfromtennessee2651]

@Michael Fox are you me?

[@hopelessstrlstfan181]

So true, BUT it does beg the question of --> how is it that so many intelligent people have become effectively propagandized into agents of a destructive ideology thru the study of Hegelian and Neo-Hegelian philosophy? Don't underestimate our opponents. They are intelligent although misguided. They also are winning the cultural war/cold civil war at the moment. I suspect many will not like my answer to the question I presented, but I suggest that a guardian of objective moral standards has to be recognized by any society inorder for it to function. Yeah, I know that is in opposition to Classical Liberalism as understood by many 21st Century Americans. Maybe so, but I am not sure there is any alternative. How else can a society protect itself from an ideology such as Hegelian Philosophy and it's various iterations such as CRT which now has been embraced by 21st Century America's Left? IMHO, a good measure of the threat Hegel's lunacy presents to a society unprotected by a recognized guardian of objective moral standards would be that Hegel's ideas in the form of CRT are currently embraced and promoted by so many cultural institutions (MSM, DNC, Universities, Big Tech) despite the 100 million deaths it caused in the 20th Century after Hegelian thought was adopted in USSR, China, SE Asia. In the end, we may rid ourselves of CRT & related ideologies before the worst. On the other hand, none of the 20th Century societies which were lost to the Hegelian thought of their era (Marxism itself) had 1st allowed the left to obtain as much influenc e as it now has in the U.S., prior to the left's installation of the Totalitarian Government necessary to implement their ideas.

[@luftstanza]

So true! I have been reading enormous amounts of material trying to give myself an education in ideas since 2014 when I read Propaganda by Jacques Ellul.

[@5metoo]

But realize what James is discussing is called continental philosophy. Anglo-American philosophy is in the analytical philosophical tradition. The two have few if any similarities. Moreover, analytical philosophers are notoriously blind to continental philosophy. I assume the reason James studies it-or at least it's true for me- is not that I think it's valuable in and of itself (and just to be clear the analytical tradition has its own problems) but that the most dominant ideas today (postmodernism, Neo-Marxism, etc) are based upon continental philosophy. It can't be avoided. I think the most valuable thing is to study the history of philosophy, which is arguably-though not uncontroversially-a study of philosophy par excellence. And really I think that's what James is doing, though I don't know how he'd classify himself on this score.

[@nighttrain1236]

Having studied nonsense one becomes good at spotting nonsense :D

[@silentb2084]

I’ve been dying for a new video from you, Michael O’Fallon! There’s been a lot of new stuff from the inimitable Dr. Lindsay, and I just love the combo of your two brilliant voices. On a side note, Michael’s work/featured speakers/conference have been instrumental in helping me finally find the path of truth in God...the puzzle of WHY these ideas are so popular makes sense now, and I have a new understanding of what I’m supposed to be doing in this fight. My purpose is finally coming into focus as I begin my walk as a Christian. Thank you, Michael, for sharing voices like Voddie Baucham and Rod Martin, who have helped me connect with God for the first time. ♥️

[@smithb0134]

Oddly enough, it was Philosophy that pulled me away from God and it was Philosophy that brought me right back to God. Go figure.

[@silentb2084]

@@smithb0134 That’s so cool. I don’t have the highly-developed understanding of either Philosophy or God to offer a more sophisticated comment!

[@urbanothepopeofdeath]

I almost understood this talk. the 4 hour thing was a lot tougher but I can go back now and try to let more "stuff" sink in.

[@dcshel]

Wow. This was the quickest 49 minutes ever! Just finished up Voddie Baucham's Fault Lines book and this helps fill in some more data on the background and origins. Thank you for helping give us more tools of knowledge by which to battle this insidious cultural cancer

[@meinking22]

This is how philosophy was meant to be discussed...chill by the firepit on a beach.

[@stevegroff6829]

Never thought I'd finally grasp Hegel's dialectic. Funny that his ideas are almost impossible to understand precisely because he's putting into practice this interplay of contradictions within his work. The fundamental idea of synthesis, which forms the basis of his entire thought process, however, does have an underlying truth to it. Even when one idea or form destroys or supersedes another, it is always transformed in some way through that interaction because of the adaptations required to accomplish that. Absolutely revile Hegel, but one must appreciate that there's something of value in his work.

[@kono5933]

I actually think the thing about slaves learning more than their masters and eventually surpassing them due to that is correct. Going from that idea to everything else james has shown is absolute insanity and dangerous

[@fitamerican5051]

This is something I will share with people who are new to understanding what is happening. This is excellent 👌👏🏼👍.

[@aetiussecularus8891]

Whenever they pull out their “phobia-ist” attacks, I just simply say either of the 3 That is a slur not an argument (white privilege, white fragility) Or What you assert arbitrarily, I dismiss arbitrarily. (Woke accusations, systemic oppression) Or It isn’t phobia, it is disgust, your arbitrary assertion of phobia is just a confession through projection that deep down you are fearful to come to terms with your disgusting behavior (irrational homophobia, transphobia, islamophobia) Puts them on the defensive as you lay out the truth. Since they cannot demonstrate their point they are powerless. Tactic has never let me down The key thing is to just get the woke on the defensive. They are all offense and no defense. Mercilessly seek definitions, they cannot provide them; they have never really faced real resistance so they aren’t used to articulating their ideas outside of slogans. Once you do that you win every time.

[@raeliera]

the disgust response piece is priceless

[@josedubois2295]

I love how peaceful this scene is even though the storm at the end seems foreboding.

[@Mart-Bro]

Even though Hegel has been taken and developed into Wokism, it's still the case that Hegel is one of the greatest philsophers of all time, and a lot of his work is still super valuable nowadays for non-woke thinkers and philosophy. I hate Wokism, but I love Hegel's metaphysics, and no serious philsophers disregard it. Hegel's work has been super important for me and my own philsophical work and i dont intend to let the woke religion just claim him as their own. He certainly wouldn't be a fan of wokism

[@Dude0000]

I feel somewhat similar about postmodernism.

[@bbreznen]

Fantastic stuff James! Great to hear you discovered Eric Voeglin. He was one of the first to recognize the religious nature of modern ideologies. Very underappreciated philosopher.

[@bunangst8415]

Equality is thesis (Bait), Equity is the antithesis, (Switch), and cultural strife is the synthesis that acts as a mechanism of controlling the populace. The establishment know this as tactical propaganda subversion formula.

[@danielmitchell181]

Most excellent. By the end of the video the sky is no longer blue. The traditional definition of “justice” includes both commutative and distributive. I’ve thought of “social justice “ as a type of distributive.

[@aisthpaoitht]

What is the sky? The sky is a fiction, an invented concept, a social construct. Reality is constructed. There is no truth in our world other than what we create. This is what Lindsay and the right does not address and it's why they always lose. It is why they are conservative and not progressive. They cling to tradition without being able to articulate why.

[@terrytibbs1852]

Thank the lord for Dr James Lindsay - all is not lost

[@HugoJL]

As the Eschaton approaches, the pace of negation intensifies. And so does the pace of James Lindsay to call it for what it is: a manipulation.

[@5metoo]

Awesome discussion. Simply awesome.

[@valthirteen]

I am finding these discussion hugely helpful in my still growing understanding what dynamics are involved in dealing with these concepts. Thank you both.

[@robertholmes12]

That was the most excellent cinematography I've ever seen on YT. The aesthetics of changing tides.

[@ihibthegreat5343]

seems like smelting the ore not to get gold, but just to prove how good you are at smelting. In the end you start incentivizing the smelting itself and not the getting of the gold. And after 2 centuries of dialectic about smelting, you might even forget that gold was the point.

[@DavidLaChanceJr]

The trinity analogy is brilliant. The new woke is the Hegelian Pentecost (spirit) with a great commission to preach repentance without forgiveness of sins and to make disciples of all nations.

[@jamesleblanc7437]

The dialectical process slowly “drains the colour” out of life, as the video goes from colour to B&W. Very meta-physical, guys.

[@jesuschristislord77733]

Dialectic process increases confusion of natural law principles and out that all evil emerges.

[@jamesleblanc7437]

@@jesuschristislord77733 the emerging utopia, the alchemical destruction to reveal the gold is akin to opening Pandora’s box...Interesting...

[@jesuschristislord77733]

@@jamesleblanc7437 interesting is one word for it. Krishna calls it something else in the Bhagavad-Gita. "Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the world."

[@leedufour]

Thanks James and Michael!

[@fireofhislove3395]

When you're mocked for your ideas, it is an attempt to intimidate. The truth is worth giving everything.

[@janethorsman194]

This was so helpful after the 3+ hour talk on New Discourses. Thank you, thank you, thank you for all you’re doing.

[@scottmckenna9164]

O'fallon created a subtle intro for Lindsey to run with, sweet, masterful!

[@mattarseneault]

This is spot on.. 10/10.. Thanks, gentlemen.

[@Jinkaza1882]

For Aufheben- think of it like a sea shell. We are the current resident of our sea shell (society/country) but another animal wants it. This animal is smaller in size, but voracious. Bit by bit, it takes a bite. It irritates at first, but as the wounds increase in number, and are not allowed to heal, We shift in the shell. We claw at the creature, but it is too small, too fast for us to catch. The pestering comes to point were We cannot stand it, and We free ourselves from the shell. Now exposed out on the reef, we are vulnerable, lost as we have been made homeless. Subject now to the elements. As we crawl, we see other shells like ours, but as we approach it to lay claim, another swarm of the little creatures bar the way. The sound of thousands of tiny mouths full of tiny teeth grinding bar Us, and we remain without harbourage. The shell remains, but with new tenants.

[@Rhygenix]

Nice analogy

[@SomboonCM]

So good to see the brilliant Dr. Lindsay getting so much screen time lately.

[@piushalg8175]

The verb "aufheben" has very different meanings in German: yes it can mean "to keep or to preserve (something)"; in the particip form "aufgehoben" it means to feel save and comfortable in a local, social or an religious/ideological setting. But it also can mean "to lift (something) up from the ground". And very importantly it can mean to bring something to an end ( for instance an event like a banquet or a curfew or a state of emergency) or to abolish it. For instance to abolish a law (ein Gesetz aufheben) or a directive to invalidate them.

[@Dude0000]

German is a very strange language, on one hand very harsh, on the other very nuanced and subtle. No wonder the language has produced so many great thinkers.

[@RUfrikkinkiddinME]

1830s Prussia might well have been the pinnacle of humanity.

[@tuskinradar8688]

Not even sure i agree, but obligatory *Based* anyways.

[@room2growrose623]

Fascinating and so insightful 🙏🏽

[@minuteslater86]

The german words are actually very well explained. Greetings from a german.

[@edwoodsr]

I don't understand how a societal synthesis can be attained without identifying the uniqueness of each individual within the society.

[@Angel-cu5mf]

beautiful production, too

[@TerryMurrayTalks]

I was half expecting Bobby Goldsboro's - Summer The First Time to start up when I began to listen to this. Excellent conversation on the origins of PM madness.

[@huieburn]

Protect James at all cost

[@Kelly-wj7xd]

It looks idyllic where you are, and the sound of the water in the background is beautiful,

[@Dude0000]

Looks like the Hamptons to me.

[@NomenNescio99]

The more I learn about CT, pomo and the new far left in general the more evil I find them to be. And I don't take lightly on the word evil.

[@martinzarathustra8604]

NO worries, I find those on the right evil as well. And I don't take lightly on the word evil. See? Tribalism is easy.

[@NomenNescio99]

@@martinzarathustra8604 The far right, such as Richard Spencer is also evil - and much for the same reason as CRT is evil - they apply racial essentialism as the primary group identity to judge people by and disregard the individual. And this is known and widely understood since forever. This isn't tribalism, this is common sense.

[@martinzarathustra8604]

@@NomenNescio99 Do you consider Trump and his tribe part of this "right"?

[@M11969]

That whole the sky is blue, except at night example is what my dad would call being contrary for the sake of contrainess.

[@willosee]

Stunning.

[@researchsiempre]

Where's this beach at?

[@JAMESKOURTIDES]

Hegel's Dialectic is a bastardization of the Christian Trinity. In the latter, the Son (antithesis) is not a negation of the Father (thesis) but an affirmation. The Son is a finite expression of the infinite. Interestingly Hegel had a son, whom he greatly resented because he impeded his career aspirations. Looking at the life and the quality of the relationships of these old philosophers is quite interesting and informing of the nature of their ideas.

[@davidkyo1985]

Nietzsche said most philosophers get into the "business" to validate their own pathologies. The more I learn about them, the more I feel he may have had a point.

[@criticalgeek9187]

There's something so funny about saying you want to look at his life and then just say something blatantly wrong. Don't expect you to read a biography, but maybe, idk, just google something.

[@JAMESKOURTIDES]

@@criticalgeek9187 what are you refuting? That Hegel had kids, or that Hegel had an illegitimate son? Both claims are true

[@criticalgeek9187]

​@@JAMESKOURTIDES Haha bud that's not what you said. "Interestingly Hegel had *a* son, whom he greatly resented because he impeded his career aspirations (???)." You didn't give a name, you clearly weren't sure if he had any more sons, mentioned nothing of illegitemacy, and I don't know where the hell you get the silly claim from. That's 'interesting', soemhow?

[@JAMESKOURTIDES]

@@criticalgeek9187 I got it from E. Michael Jones book "Logos Rising". I can look up his reference in the book and share it with you, if you're truly interested and not just trolling?

[@zachlong5427]

Just some notes, cause I do this whenever James talks: -What's really weird is that Hegel's view cannot stand paradox--things which contradict themselves. It is like that the 3-thesis model implicitly excludes paradoxes (which is sad, becasue they are fun). -Even stranger, it seems like Hegel's system can't stand opposites or compliments, for he tries to smash them together into ONE new thing (rather than let teh opposites be). -Hegel is the great sorcerer of German Idealism and is utter in his writing and use of writing. -Overall, Hegel's view can be applied to abstract philosophy but is god-awful if integrated into daily action. (On the other hand, I do hold the medieval view that a philosopher's job is to find the good life, and then live it. Hegel does not strike me as that because he's off in his philosophy playground too much.) -22:20 "How do you find where people are happy, and then ruin it." That hit me hard when I was listening to James's history of Marcuse, and it hits me hard now. Marx attacks your property, Marcuse and ilk attack your spirit. -28:00 Hegel and others being a smartass to prove a philosophical point--and another 'miss forest for the trees'. To destabilize certainty by deliberately missing the point. It is being willfully stupid to upset a person or idea. -36:00 I remember in another podcast James compared Hegel's views to the IRL philosophy of alchemy, and here Hegel is making a bastardized Christianity in order to get away from Christianity. -In regards to Hegel's whole model to test ideas by bringing them up against their contradictions: I thought there were methods of doing that before hand? Like the old Roman 'reductio ad absurdum', to take an idea to its most extreme/absurd conclusion.

[@jonaswunderkind4580]

Thank you for saving our civilization one video at a time.

[@betty8173]

I so much appreciate these talks, this teaching. But whenever anyone tries to discuss justice, I want to stop them (James) and have them define justice, as he said, what is fair...according to whom?? If he says according to the prevailing times and laws, is he not giving into the hegelian spiral??? (Correct answer:God) Looking forward to studying more, as my duties have lessened, but each learning brings many more questions, may God provide the wisdom to my search if this is the way I should go...God bless you both

[@notmyrealpseudonym6702]

Well then essentially you move to 'which god?' 'have you studied them all?' 'What's your comparative analysis?' Etc etc. Sticking to tangibles like societies and people and rules like laws is more interpersonal and able to be mutually observed than a transpersonal or intrapersonal 'god'. Same way physicists can debate without having either a grand unified theory (omni) or knowing what happened at the big bang (origin) or prior to big bang. Please note - not saying that you shouldn't live by that axiomatic belief if you can make it work for you, great to hear. Am saying a 'if people believed what I believed they would act as I act' axiom to a conversation can be uttered by either side of the conversation and not forward the conversation. Isn't a question of faith so much as a process of doubt. Hope you are well wherever you are.

[@0risenloudly]

This is great. I had no idea Andy Richter had a philosophy talk show

[@thespiritofhegel3487]

I didn't know Harry Secombe was still alive. He was good in 'Doctor in Love'

[@jamespeterson8482]

Also, the daylight example is hilarious because Hegel uses basically that exact scenario to argue why “universals” exist. He would have said you proved my point: “the truth of sense certianity is that universals are real And they change.” If you want to attack him, you have to attack his notional thinking! Aka the enlightenment. The enlightenments entire corpus is refuting Hegel-locke, Hume, russel And so on. Like you should Have said: “the sky is just a word and it is not reality.” And not” oh, I just meant during the day.” The Post modernists are trying to show you that words are real and change! That’s the thing.

[@Justin-ShalaJC]

Simply amazing

[@Fillosophah_king]

can we get a golf clap for James' vocabulary. and with such ease dropping terms like eschaton and teliogogy and many more. we all know people who use big words only to try sound smart...the name for those people is "sesquipedalian" rather unironically..haha. but james, more so, just lands the perfect word everytime

[@vitoroliveirajorge368]

Hegel never talked of thesis, antithesis and synthesis. Please read for instance this specialist of Hegel, among many: Terry Pinkard, "Hegel: a Biography". Cambridge University Press, 2000.

[@shacharias]

Lindsay should simply read Hegel.

[@Angel-cu5mf]

brilliant

[@sagandalya108]

Capricorn - conversatism aquarius liberalism pisces - idealism aries - capitalism taurus - postmodernism gemini - socialism cancer - communism

[@moodrahkamite818]

The connection to W.E.B. sent me down a rabbit hole.

[@friendoftheshow8117]

Read Sublime Object of Ideology, people. It’s on audio, too

[@jasondinorma4115]

Tyvm

[@greenkestrel]

There was a philosopher writing in Arabic who promulgated a group feeling he called "asabiya?" I learned about him at a liberal college that was already manifesting critical theory. So I presume they're also drawing from that and attempting to create asabiya in the cultural revolution.

[@greenkestrel]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asabiyyah

[@markturneymusic8294]

So the Marx thread was young Hegels. Did Hegels' other thread then influence the Thule Society/eventual Third Reich using the alchemal and metaphysical vein?

[@tuskinradar8688]

I saw at the very least from commenters on James' Hegel vid that Giovanni Gentile references Hegel in his work, and combining that w Hegels apparent German Supremacist, and State Deifying worldview, I find it incredibly hard to believe he wouldn't have influenced the Third Reich.

[@michaelmcclure3383]

@@tuskinradar8688 I think he also mentioned that Hegel had a big influence on Heidegger.

[@earofheaven1125]

You guys!! Legends! 🥰😇🤗

[@bryanjacobs1423]

Love the discussion, don't love the grayscale effect

[@SovereignNations]

"Join Michael O’Fallon, of Sovereign Nations, and James Lindsay, of New Discourses, for an in-depth discussion of how the Hegelian dialectical process and metaphysics work and slowly drain the color out of life in Western Civilization. "

[@bryanjacobs1423]

@@SovereignNations Fair enough

[@stuarthicks2696]

My English translated copy of Capital says I stood him up right.

[@RAndrewKReed]

Thesis: bullet between the eyes....Antithesis: kerflop. Synthesis: crickets...

[@MyManinHavanna]

Excellent!

[@thematrixdll]

Two questions: 1. Who came up with the gradual "fade to gray" effect? It has an inherently negative tone to it, indicating that something fades into nothingness / joins the past or, at a most charitable interpretation, becomes part of history. 2. If you must go artsy on the editing, why not reverse the effect and start the vid with gray colors then gradually saturate it to full color? (making the interview look, as well as sound, thematically reinforcing - by the end it offers a solution and it's like a sunrise for people who are struggling to find the right tools for weeding out the fun police around them)

[@lemonborn]

WHY DOES EVERYTHING BAD COME OUT OF GERMANY OR CYNA?

[@Acek-ok9dp]

James Lindsay's theology is more straight and robust than those of most "Evangelicals".

[@friendoftheshow8117]

**cough** Hegel **cough**

[@c.g3728]

It is fascinating to watch Lindsey unveil the mechanics of the devil.

[@bradp8168]

Yoooo clip this description of Aufheben

[@paulishism]

Keeping while taking apart sounds like scrapping. When you scrap a car you take it apart with the intention of keeping some of it to use it later.

[@robertdages5392]

Very helpful

[@locutorest]

Is the Hegelian term you are discussing aufhebung or aufhaben?

[@brandonrite8642]

aufheben

[@droyal18able]

That also makes sence in the case of the accelerationists. Doing the same thing from the right side.

[@bertrandkurtrussell2873]

The Heroes version however is "save the cheerleader, save the world"

[@sheedy9]

Stallin wasn't a Marxist. He was a power monster.

[@BasFolmer]

How do we aufheben wokeism?

[@davidkyo1985]

@@antoinedoinel153 That won't work, because wokeness is deliberately constructed in a way its adherents operate with doublethink (as well as other forms of mental gymnastics). Its logic does not have to be internally sound, because it explicitly does not use reason. It uses "lived experience" and a totem pole of oppression that sets up a class structure.

[@joeneighbor]

@@davidkyo1985 Really solid Dávid. Mind making your own video on the subject?

[@Gloomshadow100]

destroy the legitimacy of the institutions they control then apply direct pressure on thier individuals

[@jeffg7478]

@@Gloomshadow100 they appear to be destroying the legitimacy of their institutions on their own. A critical mass of people who recognize that need to come to be, once that happens the woke should be shut down. I have no idea if it will happen before it has a chance to unleash great suffering though.

[@Rhygenix]

@@davidkyo1985 The aufhaben to lived experience is the scientific method. They state that one's lived experience does not overwhelm the other's. And lived experience just simply means experience. There is nothing special about lived experience at all. It goes both ways and are therefore equal for each subject. Lived experience is subjective experience. The Scientific method is the aufhaben. It is the recognition and mitigation of subjectivity. The best available knowledge one can have of the physical world.

[@AstroSquid]

Hegalism sounds like spirituality or taoism, where the individual's consciousness repeats it's problems, they keep looping around, until the problem in solved the he moves forward to the next problem. This applies to individual consciousnes and self awarenes, seems Hegal applied it to society.

[@johnsmith-sn3yz]

Something hit me while watching this isnt memetics or "meme magic" the opposite of aufhaben. I mean if aufhaben deconstructs and memes connect and reinforce ideas then they are opposites. Maybe thats why the left cant meme...

[@vintagekory]

Math people totally get that, finally making it clear.

[@MonteGibson2113]

Perhaps another applicable metaphor is the death of Jesus = the eschatological death of the state following the fulfillment of its purpose. Both Jesus and the state then transcend their former existence and the spirit remains.

[@AstroSquid]

What makes dialectic different from scientific method?

[@silviusarxive5236]

To keep old photos Alte Photos aufheben To abolish a law Ein Gesetz aufheben

[@prince3475]

I'm a Saint James of rationality fanboi!!!11

[@bentray1908]

James? Please build us the tools and we will deploy them

[@joeneighbor]

Yes, in layman's terms it would be nice. It *really* is hard to tell people they are in some sort of cult. In particular when a cult typically has counter programming in place. They program one (through "teaching", repetitions, and group reinforcement ) such that "those are evil people trying to shut us down, don't listen to them", "they are liars", etc. Firmly establish the "us" (the real good, the chosen, the enlightened ones), vs "them" (the ignorant, unenlightened, the devil, the ones trying to take your rights/life/region away, etc). IMHO it's a science, but not that complicated. It's human nature, and the limitations of and the shortcuts our mammalian brains take. The trick is to get them to look at where they are, that they are being fooled, and as James says: "..that it's okay..". Need to come up with precise talking points, put in our own words, to breakdown the programming from within.

[@bfranciscop]

@@joeneighbor It's especially hard because, again Aufheben. They think _we_ are the ones who are in a cult.

[@leonpope861]

It all idolatry, It all Egoistic Hedonism, Id Centered attitude, behaviour, and communication. 👁👁 👁👁 👂👂👂👂

[@unixrebel]

thanks Germany

[@bradp8168]

White balance looking like a CNN mugshot LOL

[@forthegospel21]

@Sovereign Nations : I guess your not speaking German although James used some German words, but could you help out with how all of this is related to the German "Genderstern"?

[@therepubliclk]

Lindsay exposes the modern pseudo-left so brilliantly. Illuminating!

[@5E4N3R]

How many Vice articles are just trying to point out alleged contradictions?

[@fawzialnazer2465]

Schopenhauer hated everything

[@kaesknacker2738]

Ein gesetz aufheben = to lift a law.