Applied Postmodernism: How "Idea Laundering" is Crippling American Universities

[@dougaduncan]

Many people in Portland love Dr. Peter Boghossian, and James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose, specifically because they have the wherewithal to stand up to the people who are rewriting history and what it means to be a human being. We are grateful for your work. Keep it up!

[@KevinJohnson-ws1nh]

Any time history is done, it is rewritten. All historical information is revisionist and it cannot be any other way.

[@kungfreddie]

@@KevinJohnson-ws1nh that's not true. If I write date x a tsunami occured in these countries. That's objective history.

[@KevinJohnson-ws1nh]

@@kungfreddie History answers why and how questions, and different historians would have varying explanations for why the tsunami was so destructive, or why it occurred, and the ways it affected humans. In answering those questions, people interpret the past, and those interpretations are constantly being revised. History is not the past, but its reconstruction by people in the present day.

[@kungfreddie]

@@KevinJohnson-ws1nh that's one way to write history.. but it's not the only one. And when I get to that level of as analysis no historian worth his salt would say x is 100% the reason. They will hypothesize that this might have been the reason, list the evidence that support it and some that might point against it and then come to a likely conclusion. That history have been used in the past for political reasons, and in the present by political ideologies, is not a reason to discount history as a science. You should discount bad historians, not the discipline itself.

[@kungfreddie]

@@KevinJohnson-ws1nh "and when I" = "and when u"

[@latinaalma1947]

I received my masters in77 and my PhD in 79 in psychology. Throughout my academic training EVERY question was examinable...there were NO blinders placed on me . There was VIGOROUS but friendly collegial.discussion on topics that now would be hot buttons. We would discuss these ideas at professors homes, receptions at the grad school or conferences in social settings as well as in classes...everyone was friendly even when there were fundamental disagreements. No one attacked you on any personal level, based on whiteness or gender, it was about the IDEAS. Some of my greatest learning was due to the grit of the sandpaper of dissent against my ideas and the evening concluded with a hug or handshake or a ride share. Ideas rose and fell on their own merits...scholarship and research the scientific method were IMPORTANT, no matter how it made a person FEEL.Debate was a mark of respect and deep trust. Now it is a blood sport. Disgusting how they have ruined a beautiful life of IDEAS... everything that was GOOD about being in higher education...it is like mourning a lost family or a lost country, there is nowhere to go for solace for this loss. It is a tragedy. I am unassailable...I am retired...no one can touch me financially , reputionally and I live in complete safety ABROAD . No one can GET to me to physically to attack me ...very very few have the level of protection I have. This is very very scary...THIS is where we are in academia? Insane. Yes it began in the 90s..in academia. Measurement of IQ was the first concept attacked in psychology. Heritability of IQ also of personality traits...hell, DIFFERENCES in personality traits by gender, just about EVERYTHING to do with human sexuality...ethology the study of animal behavior in the wild in efforts to trace the development of sex behaviors in mammals and especially the monkey and ape families. Questions such as just HOW MUCH of our learning is limited by environmental factors versus heritability, ethnic group, pre natal diet of the mother...ie evidence of severe malnutrition in European countries immediately post WWII, uterine exposure to high circulating cortisol levels pre birth, violence and abuse in the home producing high cortisol levels in early , middle, and late childhood, the very concepts and diagnoses of sociopathy and psychopathy...I could write page after page of avenues of research now VERY dangerous to an academic. Every academic and educated person now must defend themselves from attack by the woke mob. EVERYONE. It is like Maoist China...the cultural revolution. Sybil Francis PhD clinical psychologist professor

[@Marley-ii6ls]

You are an excellent writer. These people could use all the help they can get with their cause. If you could, and it sounds like you are well insulated from any direct attacks, you should consider fighting this insidious movement by putting on display, your beautiful perspective of how things used to be. To present to young academics what we once had and could possibly return to.

[@usafvet100]

Very well said indeed. Bravo. I'm intrigued by the role of high cortisol levels, I believe I will investigate this further.

[@ednakoob878]

I am 74 and l can't believe what my ears are hearing!!! I have great grand children this is scary!!!

[@alephnull7410]

It’s ok everyone should be confident that in time a new generation will uphold the good name of all the legitimate progress made during your time in the 20th century.

[@alephnull7410]

@The Bloody Doctor then what are the gloves made of that you wear when you operate on KZbin doc?

[@tonyromano6220]

Edna Koob lucky you.

[@aenimosislonginus5174]

Keep em that way! The world needs sane youth

[@keithfiredive]

I’m commenting on KZbin and I’m 74 too! Wink. Wink.

[@cord11ful]

I worked on a university campus in Australia as a 'note-taker' for students with disabilities. I'd have to sit in subjects from all schools/disciplines, and make notes for the student/s. This gave me a birds-eye view of the difference between disciplines and their underlying ideologies. By far the flakiest, most emotionally immature, narcissistic people were in the 'cultural studies' domain. I saw the creeping nature of the so called 'Social Justice' mindset, as a unit based on that ideology would be inserted into the curriculum of unrelated disciplines. I was heartened to see though that many students in unrelated disciplines voted with their feet and pulled out of those units that were being 'trojan horsed' into their degree. One unit (I forget the name of it now, but it was based on grievance studies nonsense) in the Nursing degree that I saw, started with a full class, but quickly had less and less students attending; they'd dropped it like a hot potato. Those students gladden my heart and give me hope. All is not lost. We forget that most people, even the young, can be wise to insane doctrines.

[@Dragon.Slayer.]

is that why they dropped the class though? I know when I was going to school, students would do "filler" classes which they would often times drop

[@frankvonfrauner]

I think you have a particularly valuable viewpoint, because you were sitting in on so many different subjects that you wouldn't have been able to get a strong grasp on the actual subjects, that made you more intune with the culture and the tone of the lectures. The more people realize that these ideas are fringe, racist (in the traditional sense of the word) and anti-intellectual, the more smart people will push back against them.

[@Dancestar1981]

I saw it more than 20 years ago

[@boobasile5935]

That's not encouraging thinking that our Healthcare system is going to be filled with people of that mindset. Especially if you happen to be straight white males.

[@pandakicker1]

As someone who is majoring in anthropology because of her deep love for archaeology, I can say that this makes me so frustrated. I have already dropped one anthropology class after a few sessions because the professor was clearly extremely biased towards this maddening ideology. I know I am going to have to fight to get that degree if this crap keeps up. This is why I am here learning all the ins and outs of their madness to be able to counteract them at every turn.

[@hubertinepankhurst1161]

These academics are brave enough to put their careers on the line to challenge a noxious, cult-like ideology. There are very few people who have this kind of integrity nowadays.

[@Aeimos]

“Academic inbreeding”, “idea laundering” There’s so many great terms here!

[@jittmet7766]

Agree! Love it!!

[@mau345]

Inbreeding is real. Whole essence of academia is that its a place of thinking experimental thought and to nerd the hell out on topics you love. Its originally a place for intellectual deviancy and just so happens some ideas became useful to society and so society thinks its the ultimate factory of producing elite citizens. But id like to argue that some people are just wired to be that way who are talented with creative experimental thought while others are not, mostly the common man. But of course, with enough social conditioning, the common man is shoved to this system which is dangerous because hyper experimentation meets a mind that is more wired and more comfortable with group think and they attach their belonging to conventional and cliched deviancy- so so odd. Now they proliferated in senior and administrative positions, and use disillusioned intellectual superiority to mask a creeping, corrupting and sinister form of uniformity through despotism and bullying. I dont mean to mean all but the scientific publishing industry is severely infected with this. My comment is so long sorry, being in academia for so long and the shit i had to tolerate 😤

[@jameseverett4976]

Call it "proving BS with BS".

[@keyboarddancers7751]

The profession of social work has been 190% wedded to many of the ideologies raised in this discussion. This is intensely important because social workers are making fundamental decisions about the lives of (invariably vulnerable) individuals and families every day!

[@Korschtal]

I see this to some extent, but most of the professionals I work with are a bit fed up of this stuff: we are there to help people, not ask if they are part of a fashionable group first. From what I've seen many of my colleagues just nod and smile and then ignore the more silly guidelines. To be fair this is in Germany where the rot hasn't spread anywhere like as much as in the Anglosphere...

[@meganbaker9116]

And yet social workers working in “child protection” uphold some of the worst racism and classism you’ll find in the U.S.: they refuse to prosecute abuse by white affluent people. I guess the social justice rhetoric enables them to sleep at night after taking children away from materially poor people simply for the “crime” of being poor.

[@mikeno8192]

Social Work scarily one of the worst disciplines - absolutely riddled

[@BboyKeny]

So social work methods aren't based on rigorous economic, psychological and philosophical knowledge? Sounds like a potentially destructive endeavour for society then.

[@meganbaker9116]

Yet child “protection” services is one of the most racist and classist institutions in the country: child removal is enacted exclusively against low-income parents; upper-income abusers are left entirely alone to keep abusing. The rhetoric is 100% progressive, while the reality is 100% regressive.

[@DHolmquistDesigns]

It’s crazy this was 2yrs ago and is being displayed so clearly yet it’s gotten 1000x worse since then.

[@kevinvassar5075]

Hello from a couple more years in the future.......it continues to get worse.

[@JAGFamily10]

Hamas and Israel have taken advantage of this grievance overload and have used propaganda to indoctrinate people all around the world. To think a 19 year old college student of today knows the ins and out of this insanely complex conflict and to protest with such conviction blows me away.

[@cd0130]

It's now world wide. Only escape is outer space.

[@unclerukmer]

Yeah, none of this really made any difference.

[@self2point030]

the sound guy must have studied "Intersectional Sound and the Oppression of Marginalized Microphones"

[@chrisc7265]

the microphone acts as an erect male penis, aimed by patriarchal authorities at the mouths of young women. "Speak closer to the microphone", they order, with thinly veiled masturbatory innuendo. In this sense, the white male patriarchal concept of a "good recording" is clearly exposed as the institutional rape of the under privileged, a violent assertion of the hegemonic status quo.

[@willardaustria]

@@chrisc7265 LOL.Kudos, you managed to put in all the relevant talking points. Underrated comment!

[@hossskul544]

SeRGe if you don’t have something intellectual to say about this intellectual conversation STFU .

[@anthonywarren4207]

@@hossskul544 So, you are one of the 1/3 of human beings who does not have a sense of humour. You think you do, but you only laugh when others are laughing, and you never actually 'get' what's funny, do you?

[@briangriffin5359]

@@hossskul544 You sound like a real intellectual with your intellectual intellectuality.

[@samuelconway8961]

I like this woman, no victimhood, down to earth, smart, and a problem solver!!

[@sifridbassoon]

Helen is amazing! I love to listen to her speak.

[@RaphaelKaufmann]

Very smart and brave indeed.

[@keddw]

@@finchbevdale2069 Are you being ironic? If not, I feel sorry for you.

[@kevindevine5033]

Yep character and integrity are something ain't they

[@kevindevine5033]

@@finchbevdale2069 lol you had me going for a few I almost thought you were serious. Whew.

[@bibiburns3236]

"The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure" by Haidt, Jonathan; Lukianoff, Greg (2018)

[@01What10]

It's a great book! The authors break this while issue down and really dig deep into it. It's pretty scary stuff, and its only getting worse.

[@TheDisKit]

I am currently reading this and I have to say, everyone should read this. Especially now of all times.

[@Madeintexas80]

Thank you for letting us know. Hadn’t heard of it.

[@Dancestar1981]

Burner Fire it is it’s bad in Australia

[@zeenuf00]

Except that the intentions aren't good, which is a fact that so-called 'intelligent' neo-libs like Haidt can't seem to f***ing grasp.

[@MillieMe05]

I am grateful that there are people like you fighting this. It is ruining education. Why would anyone pay money to send their child to school for indoctrination. As an adult student I found it very frustrating to be forced to spit back, what I considered to be stupid ideas to pass a class

[@joemccarthywuzright7033]

I failed a course than validate its nonsense. other courses, I was very vocal. how could I take an exam on a chapter of a book that portrayed the UN as though it wasn't the worst crime syndicate on earth? I may have made the class laugh. there was no way I was going to validate lies. as of now, I'm 4 units from a degree that I'd be embarrassed to have. I was so naive entering college. all I learned from attending a UC is how America is being destroyed from the inside, funded by tax dollars. we are paying for the destruction of our country through our schools. the cult indoctrination is effective. students don't know what hit them. and parents lose the kid they sent to college and get an unemployable mentally ill bigoted social justice warrior full of hate and fear, effectively taught how not to learn and how not to think. college makes students less human. criminal. I wrote to the white house explaining why it's the president' s duty to defund UC's. any place that will hire me solely because I have a fancy piece of framed toilet paper from a Nazi indoctrination camp is not where I personally want to work.

[@MichaelYoder1961]

I was an adult student in the 80s an realized quickly that learning had nothing to do with me actually learning. I was just regurgitating what the Instructor wanted to hear. I passed an English essay with a total BS piece where I never read the book, but I knew the Prof was a perv so I made up crap about sex. Got an A+ - it's about "fitting a mold" not learning

[@MillieMe05]

@@MichaelYoder1961 Sad but true. Indoctrination not education

[@Cafeallday222]

That’s sad. I used to argue all sides in uni for fun… back when we were free to do so

[@MillieMe05]

@@Cafeallday222 Learning to argue all sides is what broadens your knowledge base and can make you reevaluate your own positions. You were taught correctly.

[@eval7952]

Where do we see this outside of academia? 99.9% of tv shows and movies, All Netflix content, all Disney content, Marvel...

[@ruburtoe1]

Cause it's in "academia". Many people still trust the authorities to be reputable and responsible

[@Bear-cm1vl]

It's one of the quirks of information. In years past, anything published in writing had been reviewed, vetted and was relatively reliable to accept as the best information at that time. Today, the fact that it is published says very little about it's accuracy, reliability or veracity and less about the reliability of any vetting that is in place.

[@Americansikkunt]

Sports and athletes, musicians, basically all of culture. It’s Cultural Marxism.

[@thespiritof76..]

Netflix works off of algorithms... If all your seeing on Netflix is content that strikes you offensive? Then that content has either been watched or searched for more frequently than content you like....... For instance, if my kids get get access to Netflix anytime they want, within a week all that Netflix will show is Disney cartoons.... of course you can have multiple viewer accounts...

[@Americansikkunt]

N L No. 100%. All of media is owned by 6 parent-corporations. Everything you see on the TV, or hear on the radio, has been filtered to exclude “harmful” information.

[@doctorich]

I legit feel bad for Helen. This lady just wanted to study the history of the religious writing of women, & she ended up tripping & falling into a swamp of Frankfurt School bullshit.

[@montrelouisebohon-harris7023]

I do too and these socialist Democrats and cultural Marxist who are the postmodernists do everything they can to exploit minorities and especially the black vote. They started getting the Democrat votes in 1930 or 1932 when socialist Franklin Roosevelt got elected the presidential office and he so happened to run on the Democratic ticket but he was really a socialist. Any other things he got elected four terms and he died right after getting reelected the fourth and I'm glad. And that's for sure he wanted to take over the whole government and practice Supreme Court etc etc and he wanted to federalize everything centrally within the federal government and that is the complete opposite of our constitution. We shouldn't have the FBI and the idea is okay and the veterans administration is okay. I was just the FDIC is definitely necessary with Federal regulations of the banks because we've seen housing prices when they don't regulate well. The housing crisis in 2008 and 2009 was really President Clinton's fault. It wasn't Bush and it wasn't Obama because they really unaware of the change Clinton made. Front of all of you on the same thing is when it happens on somebody else's watch and they didn't have anything to do with it and they're getting the heat for paying Banks so they don't go under so that the United States and the people don't go through another Great depression. Most people don't understand how economics and banking works. Joe Biden was the one that told Trudeau to cut down hard on those truckers and take their trucks away from them or licenses etc etc so he could get them out of the way. Three lines are being drawn inside what he did that and got away with it he continued to centralize and order things like a dictator. There are some mentally ill people that are just totally wacko in Canada. They just worship him. There was this lady that posted a tick tock video and it was absolutely I saw it on KZbin. She's nuts and she works in HR. She was on there with her big evil eyes talking about how if people were looking for a job, you better watch what they put on their social media because she worked in HR. People like her were watching them and knew what they said and what they thought politically etc etc and if they needed a job they wouldn't get one. Sick but her face and eyes looked insane. Woman needs mental health because she had evil eyes and she was rolling them around from underneath and they were so huge and it looked so creepy. I like a two political party system or more, but I pray what the socialist Marxist post-modernists have done over the past 7 years and it's worth over the past 2 years because George Soros funded judges it elected in the office and then they can legislate how they want from the bench.. that's not the way you legislate anything from being a district attorney or judge.. the far left doesn't see it that way and they're just fascist as crap. I started seeing the similarity in the early Nazi party from the late 20s and early 30s and before Hitler became Chancellor in right before he even became the fuhrer. When I started noticing it big time was after Donald Trump got into office and black lives matter and keeping all these groups started just destroying cities and none of their representatives were governor said anything at all about it. They dismissed it and didn't even mention it much less tell them to stop it. Came back they wanted to defund the police and they did just that. The most atrocious thing is that these individuals are young and impressionable and these politicians and the media social media is turning them in too little sociopaths and big sociopaths. Two high school girls took off their clothes in Joel osteen's Church in Houston Sunday. They're crazy and totally inappropriate and about obviously their parents don't discipline them or didn't. It is so sad and heartbreaking and I've been wishing our country could go back to the Democrat party who were the votor base in the 1960s and seventies. The thing is that those people really don't exist anymore because around 1970 to 1980 and 90 the South started switching from being racist conservative Democrats to being non-racist conservative Republicans... It's weird how it did it but it started occurring with the election of Richard Nixon in 1968 & Ronald Reagan in 1980. Continued into 1993 with newt Gingrich being the speaker of the house for at least 6 years during Clinton's administration. They work together really well despite Clinton being is establishment Democrat. Gingrich was a republican Speaker of the House. They work together and the one thing that President Clinton did that was awesome in the 1990s is he got that Federal deficit paid off and it actually had a surplus this George Bush spent going to war. He had to because of 9/11. He didn't have to go and be that right. At the same time starting around the late '60s early 70s businesses up in Michigan Wisconsin Minnesota and New York realized they could buy property in the South and it would be so much cheaper plus cheaper taxes and cheaper cost of living and actually own a car (too expensive to even buy insurance up north & a car is expensive) Bill Clinton was the last Democrat President we had even though his wife had some socialist ideas like universal health Care. I don't like it because we have Medicaid for poor people. Nobody should have to pay to cover other people's health insurance because of other reasons when it's cheaper for them to just get their own dental or healthcare policy themselves. I have a great dental policy with Delta dental and it's better than what I've had with employers and I pay $15 a month. I have to pay so much after I have two crowns and they'll only cover 50% of crowns and 50% of bridges.. healthy people can get cheap insurance for about $50 a month and it's about the same as it's private and personal and the government doesn't have your business!! Additionally it doesn't result in other individuals having health insurance increase two or three times more per month. Notice that right after Obama passed it. I'm just so tired of it. Like those purchases I'll take the Democrats that became Democrats who were former Republicans in the north over the Democrats we have now any day.Democrats back in the 1980s and 1970s and even 1990s were better than this. The politicians were still sleazy but not as bad but the boaters were not nearly this bad.

[@sweynforkbeard8857]

All of which she helped create, but now understands that it was never about "safety", but about ideological conformity and control. Leftists are like cockroaches, they only destroy, and can never create anything better. There was never any thought given to where destroying the old value systems would lead us to. You now have man hating feminists, women hating MGTOW men, a total degeneration of the institution of marriage due to no fault divorces, women murdering their unborn children. Men no longer want to get married because the divorce laws so favor women breaking the marriage contract on any grounds that it economically favors them to do so. Why would a man want to get married? Women have been taught that having children is some sort of slavery to old fashioned, out dated values, but insted should look to economic empowerment. What you are seeing is the total collapse of this society, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it. Demographics is your future, and the functional cultures will totally dominate. No functional children, no future.

[@cabel000]

Yes, they talk about postmodernism, but i heard a lot of critical theory as well. It is odd how these two ideologies have melded together. A past generation of people disproved it. But instead staying in the rubbish bin, the next generation grabbed it out of the trash and repackaged it as a new idea. Now it has to be fought all over again

[@davekohlenberg8902]

She has the world at her feet. She doesn't have to study in her city of choice; she can choose, on line in fact, Liverpool England for example. She has set her limitations and accepted them as fact. No feeling sorry for that.

[@ianstambaugh6158]

@@davekohlenberg8902 🙄

[@e4cpltom]

I am a former High School teacher, and I say here what I have been telling parents for years. If you want your children to learn and become a well adapted and productive individual in life, get them OUT of the public school system !!!! It is worse at the university level, but it is also very strongly taught to kids as young as middle school.

[@e4cpltom]

@RyuBlade Yes and no. Private schools can be VERY ideologically driven, that is a feature about private schools that has always been a selling point for them. Be it political or religious, a private school can teach in a manner that the parent finds agreeable. This means people who are looking at private schools need to be careful and methodical in their choice.

[@matthewharris8819]

Or maybe you just sucked at your job and got forced out and now you are bitter.

[@matthewharris8819]

@jon scott Your mother.

[@meganbaker9116]

There are a thousand reasons to flee the public school system. At least college professors are well-educated and interesting people...

[@indfnt5590]

Bruh stfu. Your statement insinuates anyone from the public school system cannot grow up to be respectable people. You guys keep pushing these bs dog whistles for “keep your kids from all these* “people.” 💀

[@benegmond6584]

This man is literally part of the people who are secretly saving the world by documenting it so clearly and getting a full grasp on it, being able to parrot their own words, show how it makes no sense and it's all gibberish racism. Thank you for your hard work, I wish I could help but I'm no where close to understanding this to the extend how I see your team has displayed it to us.

[@geepers9513]

I can’t believe they were sounding the alarm at this level of detail TWO YEARS AGO

[@TradBarbie]

I've been doing it for a decade. I'm a "conspiracy theorist" according to my low IQ college Jr daughter. She was very intelligent as a child, but school will get that pesky rationality right out the door.

[@gloriasangermano3687]

The level of harassment and persecurion these people have to endure is awful

[@roninkraut6873]

They haven’t endured nearly as much as knowledge and progress has because of what they are speaking against

[@mandelbro777]

Marxism is a system of ideological oppression against the human mind which then has the temerity to claim a virtuous intent to 'free humanity' from whatever bogeyman [strawman] argument can plausibly carry the cause.

[@nihilistcentraluk442]

Mao's Cultural Revolution where those guilty of thought crimes were made to ensure hours of people surrounding them shouting and screaming hostility towards until they break

[@joemccarthywuzright7033]

I call it terrorism. and I'm convinced that student government is a terrorist organization.

[@dawsonjgyou]

It is so important that this gets out, it's disappointing that the audience is so small, - let's hope it gets millions of vews.

[@TheFiddle101]

It's doing well so far but yes, let's hope it build up even more.

[@CarbideShrapnel]

I just found it today 300k so far. Tiny for its information. (Coincidence?) I had to scroll through Peter's page definitely not in recommended

[@sylviarogier1]

Helen expresses herself so clearly and intelligently.

[@zoltanrudolf]

She’s always nervous in front of an audience but she’s by nature very brave.

[@toddthorpe1]

I am in the process of looking up some of her other material. This is the fist time I have heard her speak and she is brilliant

[@katedunning9467]

Every time I listen to them, I want to homeschool my kids.

[@coweatsman]

Maybe to K12 but beyond to college or university, just about no one can do that.

[@coweatsman]

An education to only high school makes one qualified for homelessness and low paid causal jobs. To have better opportunities a student will have to go say "uncle" to the monocultural bullies of campus. Want freedom, buy your own tent and set up in a city park.

[@mykillmielia5640]

do it! and don't send them to college.

[@harrymills2770]

Sending kids to the public schools is child abuse in the current era, in my humble opinion.

[@kungfreddie]

@@coweatsman BS! Give your kid a computer, make him learn to code and he will get a high paying job without a single day in college.

[@onusgumboot5565]

"if you don't understand how it works, this just looks mad." But if you dig deeper into it, it is clearly totally batshit crazy

[@burleybater]

Yeah, wonderful stuff for social cohesion.

[@mandelbro777]

> But if you dig deeper into it, it is clearly totally batshit crazy Don't confuse evil with insanity. There's a dark wisdom to all of this. Most psychopaths and sociopaths aren't crazy, but highly intelligent manipulators.

[@onusgumboot5565]

@@mandelbro777 but you can be both highly intelligent, and completely batshit crazy.

[@zeenuf00]

@@mandelbro777 it's all evil

[@albeit1]

Our gut reactions are right on target. And like our natural aversion to a decaying human body, it’s not socially constructed.

[@kickpunch37]

Thank you to the three of you for standing up to the modern crazies in academia. I'm speechless listening to this.

[@silverfish8059]

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[@production2353]

The sad part is Helen still thinks you can reason with these people. James and Peter have long realized that's not possible.

[@anonony9081]

The guy who is famous for convincing over 100 kkk members to leave the Klan was unable to get them to even start a discussion with him. They just screamed in his face

[@BboyKeny]

@Nancy Hollo By getting to know them becoming friends. The klan members eventually couldn't find consistency to their ideology and the fact of the existence of their black friend which is nothing like the ideology described

[@jameseverett4976]

I like how they use so many tools invented by "straight white men" to overturn the legitimacy of "their" truth.

[@dymytryruban4324]

@Nancy Hollo 100 members of KKK.

[@jimwerther]

@@anonony9081 Who?

[@harrymills2770]

Helen Pluckrose articulates this better than anyone.

[@caps_lock_]

As a gay man of colour this is really really interesting and making me reevaluate my political position and values

[@Joebethere7]

College used to be a place where students were exposed to all ideas. The coddling of students intellectually just postpones the rude awakening they receive when they enter the world

[@DrCruel]

Students are not being coddled. The Left fascists are utterly ruthless with students who dare disobey or criticize them. Instead, students are being indoctrinated into the Left fascist ideology - and are informed, in no uncertain terms, of what is to happen to them if they refuse to join. This is a process of turning them into common foot soldiers in the coming socialist war aimed at taking over their country.

[@hollywoodartchick9740]

Does it, tho? Even as we speak, there are seminars for Boomer and Xer managers on "how to work with Gen Z," including all the pronoun stuff, making sure their work is always rewarding and interesting, never criticizing them, being "inclusive" in all of your communications, etc. The cart is chasing the horse, and the horse is just shrugging and saying, "Well, don't want to be called a Racist on Tik-Tok...."

[@mattcorregan4760]

Unfortunately not, because they are the next generation in the workplace and they are bringing that ideology with them and infecting the larger society.

[@DrCruel]

This only works if they can make their employers a profit. Some Gen Z'ers will simply become unemployable and will turn to "activist looting" and the entitlements industry for survival.

[@env0x]

@@hollywoodartchick9740 as a millennial, i'm just glad we aren't the lamest generation anymore.

[@terriconti]

I know I'm a little late to the party, but I just want to say THANK YOU to everyone responsible for this event and making it available here. Coming across this video today was a tremendous relief: to hear highly intelligent wise people articulate a strong response to this madness.... it's a balm to my soul & gives me hope.

[@88_TROUBLE_88]

Yeah, one of the most effective tactics the woke mafia have used is to portray anyone displaying any type of pushback or questioning of the narrative as being under-educated (or absolutely uneducated) hick, white trash, trailer park residents and other members of knee-oh not-sea party.. They put anyone in that box that dares to stray from the status quo and they are very effective with this strategy since it requires no evidence to make someone who is otherwise merely a nuanced thinker to appear as a goose stepping ess ess storm trooper.. I wish I could say that is an example of superlative but it's really that bad now that they've got all the right people in the right places to keep their ideas and messages flowing while effectively censoring any ideas outside of the narrative.. It's madness but it's carefully orchestrated and it took several decades to create an environment ripe for the embedded operatives to unleash this establishmentarianist yoke that incarcerates the misled minds of the most naive and immature while convincing the same victims that they're the protagonist or heros of our society. It's downright maddening yet you have to respect the commitment and tenacity to execute such a subterfuge upon the culture.. The ruse is so bizarre that it has to be considered as an example of genius level gambit due to the sheer effectiveness alone in spite of the pure absurdity of it all, right?? They've actually convinced normal people to loathe themselves over inherent qualities or traits that they have no control or choice over such as skin or gender..

[@ard1805]

Imagine being a grown woman with the privilege and wealth to go to school at a college or university and coming out thinking you’re a second class citizen oppressed by the same society giving you those opportunities.

[@alexanderx3554]

It's not just women, men too.

[@zeenuf00]

@@alexanderx3554 it's mostly women

[@ruburtoe1]

Because it's an ideology of grievances and despair, not gratitude and hope. There's nothing redeeming in the thought process. It's all about destroy the bad, disregard the good as a given/default.

[@matthewharris8819]

Imagine not understanding that just because white males were forced to allow women to study at universities that it doesnt mean that they don't still attempt to oppress them.

[@billsimms2511]

@@matthewharris8819 lol universities pander to women and minorities right now. Don’t even try to pretend they aren’t

[@kdub3288]

I know this video is 2 years old but while watching I just got a news notification that Amazon declines to promote the book “What is a Woman”. How ironic and just absolutely insane. I’m genuinely afraid for the future of this country.

[@juliafox52]

My husband was written up for not teaching social justice in his physics class. He was eventually fired because they found out that he did not vote Democrat. (We're Libertarian.) He now teaches in China.

[@richardgunn7553]

Can you tell us where he taught?

[@juliafox52]

@@richardgunn7553 St Louis Public Schools

[@deniseg-hill1730]

That is nuts. Even in Germany they don't do that and they are desperately short of teachers here. My sister's stepdaughter and her husband (English) have got jobs in Germany well paid and she only teaches geography and they dont speak german but they are learning it. This is in an international School. They were teaching in an international School in Rumania before. Maybe your husband should enquire about International Schools in Europe. I'm sure he would be most welcome and its well paid plus easy access to lots of countries.

[@juliafox52]

@Max Raider The sad irony is that my husband escaped from the Soviet Union, but cannot manage to escape communism.

[@juliafox52]

@@deniseg-hill1730 Thank you. Funny that I was not notified of your comment. Do your relatives have EU passports? (What will happen after Brexit?) My husband looked into teaching in Western Europe, but at the time they were only hiring EU passport holders. It may be more dependent upon the schools. We'll have to look again! Also, I heard teachers (and nurses and doctors) were leaving their positions in droves because of the treatment they were being given by the migrants. Is this true? Have your relatives experienced any of this?

[@jsedmonds256]

Thank you Helen, James, and Peter!

[@brittneyzarwel6242]

And less than a year later (7/4/2020) this is going mainstream... What do we do now??

[@jdlc903]

Helen Pluckrose Is great. She's really good at breaking things down.

[@michaelhiggins2562]

Those who believe in social injustice are incapable of engaging in even the "conversations" that are necessary to solve the problems they believe need solving. How does that work for a rational future in the Academy?

[@TheGuinever]

Those who believe in social injustice? Or those who believe in countering social injustice?

[@jameseverett4976]

@@TheGuinever Social "injustice" is someone doing something better than me, or having something I don't have, THEREFORE some kind of injustice must have been committed, and they need to give me their stuff, to compensate me. It's basically a spoiled rotten childish tantrum on steroids, but somehow getting the approval of law enforcement.

[@hyacinna]

​@@TheGuinever those who believe in countering social justice can have a discussion, it's just that the ideological framework of postmodernism shouldn't mediate the discussion of sciences, or else they and everyone else who doesn't navigate through it literally cannot counter arguments

[@koobea4859]

The mention of the knitting community is absolutely on the nose! I was part of the group and bought lots of patterns and learned so much about the craft, all of the sudden, everything blew up. I had never seen any pro-Trump patterns but you would have thought someone was selling knitted swastikas. We were told no pro Trumo artwork or dialogue would be allowed, ever. I’m no fan of his but I’m not going to drop a row of stitches because someone wants a maga beanie! Last time on the site, I found a yarn merchant who said knitting was too much of a “white lady” craft and he wanted to make it more inclusive. Condescending fool! Red heart yarn is 3.95 and a pack of needles is less than a Starbucks coffee or a lipstick or a pack of ciggies. The yarn merchant was also white, btw.

[@koobea4859]

@RyuBlade Yes, I am! As the saying goes "Knitting is cheaper than therapy and you end up with a hat."

[@lisamoag6548]

I like to work with yarn and make personal gifts for my loved ones and to donate at church. Our group is share a yarn.

[@helendancelot]

Not gonna drop a row of stitches 😂

[@AlienPsyTing1]

Lol I’m a bloke and at primary school I learned to knit, it’s actually great fun but that aside Koo knitting provides you a great chance to write and publish a post modernist paper like er…… Knit One, Pearl One - How knitting empowers the patriarchy… thank goodness they don’t let post modernists design aircraft

[@billsmith8825]

It's always the rich white liberals who are pushing this crap.

[@bglynch3176]

Years ago, I read about an entertainer hired to speak at a physicians convention. He just cobbled a bunch of big words together and got a standing ovation.

[@porchstringmusic]

When I enrolled in graduate school to study musicology at UW-Madison in 1994 I was first introduced to postmodern theory. I just wanted to study Medieval and Renaissance music…and found myself thinking I had landed in the twilight zone. I tried for 3 semesters to endure it and could stand no more so I dropped out. I thought I had heard the last of it, leaving it in the ivory tower. Now it has infected education at all levels as well as society at large and I feel like I am experiencing PTSD on a daily basis…

[@SvenErik_Lindstrom3]

I've lately been watching many videos featuring Lindsay, Boghossian and Pluckrose and I think this is the best. Thank you for your work and inspiration!

[@roywall8169]

This should make any parent think twice before sending a child to college.

[@samueldelaney385]

These three researchers were only recently discovered by me while listening to a recent (July 2020) Joe Rogan podcast. The work they are doing is valuable and vital to countering the toxic Marxist ideology infesting Western thought.

[@nihilistcentraluk442]

This video pulls together the evidence very effectively. The universities need to be completely nationalised ,brought under control of democratic governments and purged of extremists.They have rotted from the inside but I wonder whether it is the almost unconstrained growth of higher education which is also key

[@matthewharris8819]

Postmodernism is not Marxism. Like,at all.

[@therainman7777]

@@matthewharris8819 Postmodernism doesn’t need to _be_ Marxism for what he said to be valid. The wokeness that we see today taking over our institutions has a hell of a lot in common with Marxism and in many areas explicitly cites it; at the same time it also evolved from a set of theories that either drew upon or were birthed directly out of postmodernism. So wokeness has strong connections to both Marxism and postmodernism- it is Marxist in many of its desired goals, and postmodern in the ways of thinking that enable it, such as the nonexistence of objective truth and the basis of all “knowledge” in systems of power and oppression.

[@matthewharris8819]

@@therainman7777 Actually, it really does. Postmodernism and Marxism aren't just not the same thing. They are completely opposite things. One is based in materialist principles, one in what Marx would call metaphysics. And they don't want the same thing. Marxism seeks to eliminate all distinction but class distinction. While "wokeness"(whatever the far right decides that means this week) seems to want to create more distinction. Claiming postmodernism and Marxism are even remotely related or are even aiming at the same objectives is to be woefully ignorant of both. But that makes sense. You aren't actually supposed to understand it, just virtue signal the correct buzzwords on social media.

[@therainman7777]

@@matthewharris8819 Did you not understand what I said? Can you maybe read it one more time? I didn’t say they were the same thing, or that they shared objectives. I didn’t say that _at all._ So I’m not sure who you’re arguing with. What I said was that _wokeness_ draws on both. You see the difference between saying “A and B are related” and saying “C draws some elements from A and some elements from B”- right? Take a breath and read before you respond. And if you’re referring to me, with the comment about not understanding and just wanting to virtue signal in social media- I don’t believe in any of this nonsense, I don’t advocate for it and am strongly opposed to it. I was simply clarifying where you were wrong.

[@raybarry4307]

I worked at Columbia University for just over 10 years and was fired for not apologizing to a student for telling her to keep an open mind.

[@purpleflame334]

Thank you so much for your work! Amazing interview with courageous people! I grew up in USSR and familiar with brainwashing preventing the freedom of speech and most dangerously the freedom of thought from the cruddle...really appreciate what you are doing!

[@raymondfrye5017]

Cradle?

[@patbymak8895]

Thank you for showing me my ignorance. It's a relief to know that, as I am, there are other people, without knowledge and poor critically thinking skills.. Thank you,-. This has been VERY helpful.

[@ahmedaldarwish9102]

I wanted to do my PhD in applied linguistics in an American university. Having listened to what happened to Bret Weinstein and others, now I'm glad I'm doing it in my country. I'd rather deal with the crazies in my own universities than those woke blokes. Seriously, what's happening to Western universities? They're becoming more about social justice activism and less about learning.

[@SkepticalTeacher]

They are no longer exclusive in the sense of excluding the majority of people based on intellect, so the thick ones are the ones that latch onto this nonsense because they're too stupid to do anything else. Aaaaaaaaargh!

[@khanaliqasim1757]

@Daniel R Phillips I see you're a man of culture

[@DarkAngel2512]

Boghessian just opened up his own university with some colleagues. Worth looking into if you're still interested in studying

[@justicewokeisutterbs8641]

@@DarkAngel2512 That is exciting news. Where is it?

[@DrCruel]

What's been happening to US universities is a process that is at least half a century old, and which really dates back to a century ago. Simply put, Left fascists have been taking them over, getting rid of old professors and putting their own people in, first in all the social sciences and then everywhere else. I watched them do it for decades.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

0:05 Ah, no wonder I've always liked and respected Helen Pluckrose -- I also have a keen interest in studying Mediaeval history and writing. So _of course_ I don't expect to find 14th century writings by women of my dominant ethnicity (my ancestors of that era had no written language) AND, *_that never mattered_* because we humans have more in common than races differ.

[@zoompt-lm5xw]

No matter the color, every Comicsgater is of my race :). We both watch many of the same things here on YT. Stay safe

[@burleybater]

What a cute concept - laundering dirty ideas, just like dirty money. Love it to bits. That was the fun bit. It ain't funny, folks. At the 33-minute mark, when the three speakers begin to describe the attacks on them (um, might this not be just a wee bit of oppression here? - just asking.) When I was young and hungry in my college days, I studied every single goddamned thing I could get my hands on, about Mao's, Stalin's and Pol Pot's regimes, with a casual side stroll into Armenia in WW1. (Rwanda hadn't happened yet.) And what I learned then and there was something that didn't turn me into Iron Man....no. It just turned me awake, aware, alive alert, and ever watchful. Which the more I think about it, is the opposite of woke. And why? Because the woke kids don't study what I did. They don't have to. They don't have to because it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because they believe themselves to be immune to those things, but far, far more fascinatingly - more supreme. Which is what makes them convinced they're on the "right side" of history. History that they don't know because they never studied and haven't learned. To them a supremist is someone who challenges them, rebukes them, for even thinking about practicing freedom of thought. Which is the BIG BANG of human freedom. (Which may scare the livin' crap out of them.) And that just fascinates the living hell out of me. That they have been taught to do this. On our tax dollars.

[@TheSwissChalet]

It stems from their own self-loathing. They hate themselves so much that they have to come up with some delusion to make themselves to be social justice warriors. Otherwise, they are just ordinary losers.

[@tc7500]

I congratulate these people to have the courage and I’m glad that someone besides me is trying to push back against all these nonsense and lies!

[@virvisquevir3320]

"Questioning accusations is racist."

[@burleybater]

or misogynistic, or phobic, or fascist, or supremist...

[@highlightning6693]

If, by The Lord's mercy and power, we survive this demonic onslaught in the west we can *never* ever forget this and let our guard down again.

[@beatrizfernandes1506]

well...people are bound to forget history, or parts of it. This isn't very different to the rise of fascism and communism in Europe during the early 20th century.

[@susanwangerman1232]

Do you think we will ? survive, that is.

[@mau345]

@@susanwangerman1232 youll survive, when your problems become putting food on the table again, these problems will drift unknowingly and get back on focus

[@CarbideShrapnel]

I wouldn't say forget more than do everything we can not to let them rewrite it and make freedom of thought a thing of only legend. You are 100 percent correct on its origin (satanism) much love there are a lot of us who see this danger and try to help those around us in our lives see this as well. It's not something that can be ignored or tolerated its going to take force and power to overcome it.

[@mosiahbarnasha8782]

This thing is by far bigger than fascism. It's a gigantic demonic monster that is feeding on the very democracy organizing our lives, as on a dead body. It originates from the global capitalism. The worst in this is that it cannot be vanquished by peace-meal solutions such as the one initiated by the honorable panel in this videos. We need a new intellectual holistic alternative to capitalism, other than communism -- an alternative that would generate a new political consciousness out of all of us, and then drive us to a momentous revolution at national and global levels.

[@elizabethhanson762]

Thank you for posting this. It's amazing what is happening! I appreciate knowing about this.

[@rickynorvell8870]

I give them praise because these fine people are modern-day heroes!

[@Sensorama2000]

Seems like this to me : Teachers / universities prevent kids from growing up and growing strong. Like the ever ruling mother making sure that their children never become independant of her ! These weak kids can´t cope with reality so they try to make everyone else less competent as well. They then scream for more ( authoritarian ) government to save them from growing up and having to change. They fear that they will be on the bottom end of society ( even with a degree in lesbian dance therapy... ) This fear is a primeval fear that is felt, it is subconcious.

[@alexanderx3554]

I thought it was theory not therapy

[@fromthesouthofafrica6815]

Asking for evidence is racism. A brilliant example of a Kafka trap. I don't know if I should laugh or cry😂😭.

[@rosalielines1801]

I was shocked to find widespread reports at my alma mater, traditionally a conservative/classical educational institution, Brigham Young University. Even there, educators/deans have been found fitting students with this horrifying lens of societal distortion as a prescription for today’s social ills. This lens actually causes more of the problem of class striation and spectrum of victimhood and hierarchy of the oppressed. This lens is a desperate argument to justify the reverse discrimination to “cushion” minorities of any kind and assert “justice” due to being born with certain characteristics they should be ashamed of or proud of, depending on the convenient narrative of the day to force the redistribution of the benefits or privileges over others they perceive are not as “worthy”. These currencies of today (money, status, power & privilege) are deemed as so imbalanced that someone should do something about it. They insist we are needing self-appointed moral superiors to adjust the shares in benefits for “equity” to return to balance. They push the division into tribes which these moral volunteers wield supreme power above reproach/criticism and can feel superior to rectify injustice on a very capricious rubric. Dangerous and disheartening how pervasive it is across the world’s institutions.

[@lesliepage3886]

If that’s happening at the Y then I can’t imagine what is happening at the U.

[@susanastephens7156]

Thank goodness people are finally speaking up against the madness !!!!!!!

[@davidighernandez]

I´ve been following these videos, however they leave something not covered, and that is that universities, specially in developing countries have a huge impact on policy making, and these ideas are permeating public policy...

[@Soulseeologia]

Absolutely. Once you understand that the Jesuits controls higher education from stem to stern as they do politics, you will know why they have been expelled from over 180 countries throughout history and what needs to be done again. Shame academia is filled with such spineless, selfish criminals that are too afraid to stand up to this real power.

[@zoompt-lm5xw]

@@BonRain8734 Really? Even in India? Have you noticed one curious thing: there's no SJWism in China. Yet they seem very happy to support it in countries that are their competition...

[@burleybater]

@@BonRain8734 Well yeah, except that India has something north of a billion people (outside a very stretched number of elitists) who are quite capable of taking down just about anything they don't like, if they're pissed off enough.

[@burleybater]

@@zoompt-lm5xw SJW would never fly in the Magic Kingdom. The politburo in Beijing will never forget that the last gang of SJWs brought in the new regime right after they got done with their long march. The lid has to be kept tightly locked down on that. They did it once, they can do it again.

[@Anton-sz3sr]

@@BonRain8734 Really, how so? I would have assumed that because there's the lack of women's rights and problems that still exist from the caste system that leftist academia might actually be helpful in developing countries that haven't seen the same social progress as the west.

[@endigosun]

Finally... a breath of fresh “sanity”

[@zootsoot2006]

If you read their book 'Cynical Theories', it's clear the West is going through a major revolution in thought. The old ideas of reason, evidence, the scientific method, individual rights, property rights, all those Enlightenment ideals are being overthrown. It's the biggest shift in Western societies in the past 300 hundred years. Seems like these three are the only ones who really have a grasp about what's going on, everyone else is just sleep-walking into this revolution, resting on the laurels of their old liberal ideas of tolerance and kindness, not knowing they're walking into a black hole of insanity.

[@gregnixon1435]

Interesting about Freire's *Pedagogy of the Oppressed*. When I was in curriculum grad school, I tried to point out that the original was aimed at the submissive mindset of the poverty class in Brazil. It was not directed at gender, race, gender, or sexual preference issues, which is the way it was interpreted here.

[@luizmatte4345]

Well, it is being interpreted that way in Brazil now too... Destroyed all levels of our educational system, the same is going to happen anywhere that hack is taken seriously.

[@L4SERB0Y]

Well done for highlighting this ideological insanity. Whist the madness is inherently unstable and WILL destroy itself we have to stand up and ensure it doesn't destroy our society in the process.

[@LunaticReason]

The comment about punching up and punching down reminded me of Chappelle's experience with his friend Daphne, a white trans women who used those words to defend him. What he also talked about was how he enjoyed his conversation about her and wanting to ask questions and get to the bottom of what he didn't understand about the trans community. He makes a joke about his own ignorance and the crowd laughs, she looks sternly at him says that she doesn't need him to understand her but I need you to believe that she is going through things. That she was having a human experience. He was looking for objective truth whereas she wanted him to understand her lived experience. He looks at her and says he believes because he empathizes. I think that says a lot about how protective people subjective/lived experiences are. Often people become defensive of what is questioned and criticized about their identity, beliefs etc. To the point of hostility and this inability to take criticism that allows us to see outside of ourselves. Plato's cave. Here we have two people sharing their experiences through humor. Humor being how we experience criticism in a more palatable manner. Their experiences may be completely different and separate them but its our humanity that brings us together. Anyways thought I share my thoughts on that since this special people thought Chappelle is transphobic and I think that was further from the truth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH2uYmmMe6qAl68&ab_channel=ControversyRadio

[@13e11even11]

I graduated in 82 and started as a professor at that time and was done with academia by 1990, after finding it ridiculous to consider continuing.

[@harrymills2770]

Most liberals I talk to have never heard of Evergreen.

[@thenrepeat9124]

Not surprised. It was a major event that MSM sidestepped. Ironic that socialist movements are powered by $ and that free speech is under assault by a sector abusing free speech.

[@portapotty69]

If it's not in a TV show, liberals won't hear about it. They're in a media-worship cult.

[@squatch545]

@@thenrepeat9124 Are you fucking kidding? Evergreen was all over the MSM, and Bret Weinstein became an MSM media darling.

[@mmille10]

I made some lefties aware of it, but I didn't see them react to it at all. One reacted negatively to Dawkins being deplatformed by an atheist group, but when I told him about Evergreen, I heard nothing from him about it. I told him about it about 3 times. Nothing. My guess is a) he didn't hear about it from what he regarded as a reliable news source, and b) Evergreen is not a major university. In fact, before it erupted in 2017, I hadn't heard of it, either. My friend might've thought I was talking about a community college somewhere. The thing with me is I'd been hearing about this sort of stuff ever since Lawrence Summers stepped down from Harvard in 2006. Incidentally, I've talked with lefties about that, even. It seems like it's news to them, and they act like, "Why would I care?" They seem completely oblivious to the implications. For me, Evergreen was a canary in the coal mine about upping the ante for the far Left. It was a test case of what they could pull off, and get away with it. I have a sense that I know how these people operate (though, maybe I'm wrong). They share with each other about what's worked to advance their agenda. What appears to work one place, they try to replicate someplace else. Since Evergreen, I've fully expected to see the same thing tried at a larger university, because absolutely nothing's been done about Evergreen, and the Left, broadly speaking, takes a "don't know, don't care" attitude toward it, which tells the far Left that they have carte blanche to do this again, if they can intimidate their academic opponents into not looking at their activities, and raising a voice against it, get the permission of the administration, and can rope in enough students to become their cannon fodder.

[@squatch545]

@@mmille10 Just curious, what kind of tin foil are you using?

[@petjobedet4650]

This is a really good discussion and explains a lot about how epistemology is the central basis of contention. As such idea laundering makes a subjective truth claim and finds minimal support for it, and published it in small department journals. As soon as its cited it’s taken as legitimate scholarship.

[@treasuresnpain3567]

I tried 2 leave an educated comment with no vulgarity, threats, or profanity and of course it gets shadow banned. But if I say the most terrible lies and threats about the people who don't control the internet they let it stay. How is no one doing anything about this when the evidence is so EZ2 produce???

[@anthonywarren4207]

I was at a public event yesterday, a premier of a movie called "Over the Barrel," a film about American influence on the pipeline industry in Canada. At the Q & A, a questioner opined that the science around climate change was not settled. I was shocked at the high-pitched screeching of about 1/3 of the audience. So indoctrinated where they, that they could not imagine they could be wrong about anything to do with climate. I made a comment that the risk and impact of oil spills was vastly exaggerated, citing that there has been no peer reviewed articles published since 1999 reporting on long-term effects to the environment after the Exxon Valdez spill. The young people in the crowd went nuts. I laughed at how immune they were to reason of any sort. After, a young man approached me to tell me that Canada had the highest per capita carbon 'pollution' of anyone on the planet. I said, that total Canadian emissions were still less than 1.5% of world emissions. I then told him that the average temperature in Canada, which has been essentially unchanged for the entire history of temperature recording in Canada was -5 C, and that Canada has 1/2 the population density of Russia. So it should be obvious that we would have high per capita CO2, especially since we are a first world country. He told me I was stupid. I said that perhaps I was, but at least I had the truth to back up my claim. He said that truth doesn't matter, that all that matters was action. We are screwed unless we retake the education system and launch these stupid postmodern ideas into oblivion. It's time that classical epistemology be taught in high-school. If you home school, teach your kids how to think critically and understand what knowledge is.

[@ThePolo77j]

If that young man is seeking action, I have bolt, lever, and pump .. he can choose

[@anthonywarren4207]

@@ThePolo77j Too noisy. I forgot to tell you that my 6-4 body guard was with me, he makes Duane Johnson look like a fairy god(insert preferred pronoun here).

[@anthonywarren4207]

Max Raider it’s rooted in postmodernism, a philosophy created by a group of Vichy French Marxist defeatists. It is about as on its face stupid idea ever given universal attention by academics in what was once the humanities.

[@matthewgnevs7303]

What you just said and in the format was absolutely wonderful 👏👏 and the scary thing is, I don't believe most people would be even willing to read it's all the way through. I'm a Young Man of 27 years old lol i know not that young. But I found myself to be more intelligent than most of the students that attend University, although I know lots of my grammar lack it, but what I mean is more of a philosophy understanding of Truth between right and wrong. Do you have any channels that you may be willing to link in a response that you find helpful or knowledgeable?

[@alexanderx3554]

@@ThePolo77j ahh, but only the gooberment, (not the police, defund, defund defund) should have GuNs.

[@DanM-ys5pz]

I remember this nonsense bubbling up even back when I was a Physics undergrad at Illinois in the early 90's. It already seemed pretty nutty and toxic at the time. I can only imagine what it's metastasized into now. Seems like it's everywhere.

[@silverfish8059]

Even more prevalent in the fine arts subjects in the 90s. Thought it was a ridiculous side show, back then, never could have predicted this extreme direction, in my lifetime….

[@DarkAngel2512]

If it wasnt for social media it would have stayed confined in the walls of universities.

[@raymondfrye5017]

It is funny you should use the term:"metastisized",as if iy were a cancer

[@DrCruel]

_"...Their evil has spread to every city. Two or three years ago it was just another snake cult, now... they're everywhere. It is said that they are deceivers... they murder people in the night... "_

[@larrydaniels6532]

If you stop for a minute and think of the great change in our society that has occurred since the 90's. Two things stand out: social media and Fox News. Just over 25 years for Fox News to have done more damage than any other organization in the USA. Social media is a very close second, although they are a newer blight. '

[@shanetoumey2835]

Rand was pointing out this growing problem in universities decades ago. It’s nice to see some more people finally taking it seriously.

[@DP-cd5wr]

Helen is absolutely brilliant. Would love a discussion between her and Jordan Peterson.

[@user-ju6zx3rm8d]

They are all brilliant.

[@erporcoiddio9650]

I think they all had already one with Peterson.

[@DP-cd5wr]

@@erporcoiddio9650 Yeah seen it bow. Really good!

[@DP-cd5wr]

@@user-ju6zx3rm8d indeed!! I'm just being biased as I live in the UK.

[@user-ju6zx3rm8d]

@@DP-cd5wr at least you realize it :)

[@gsullivan3262]

a crucial discussion shedding light on how absurdities gain traction; the "academic/industrial" complex anyone!

[@kimberlyleal9820]

I am a conservative and supportive of what you are doing. We have to come together to fight this insane ideology.

[@lesliepage3886]

Start with the local school board

[@MelissaKnoxwriter]

Thank you all, Helen Pluckrose, Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay, for your vast and calm common sense!

[@TheMediaMakerYT]

This is probably the most important topic of our generation.

[@pandakicker1]

I dropped an anthropology class because it was extremely clear from the first session that the professor was extremely biased by this ideology and was going to look at everything in the class through that lens.

[@lesliepage3886]

I should have dropped my women’s studies class in 1993. I was only 18 but I knew at the time that the experiences of oppression never happened to me because I knew knowledge was power and I could accomplish what I wanted if I studied hard and prepared more than others. It was just a weird class where I never agreed with anyone but didn’t speak up either other that to tell the teachers that I thought they’d give me a bad grade. And they did. Even though I participated like everyone else, my assignments weren’t dripping with victim hood like everyone else’s, so they gave me a B. Even at 18, I went and confronted them about it. It didn’t change their mind, but I spoke my peace.

[@nitrodubz14]

The irony of this being held in a Jewish community center is priceless.

[@gspurlock1118]

New Discourses with James Lindsay is the best single source. His "Subs Only" videos are amazing.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

I wondered what Paul Hogan got up to in his retirement. Nice to see he's not just tranquillising himself on a golf course, but that he's up front to the left listening to a panel of professors and cultural commentators in Colorado. Good on ya cobber! ;) On a serious note, this was a fantastic discussion panel and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you so much for uploading.

[@suziecreamcheese211]

Is this supposed to be funny?

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

@@suziecreamcheese211 Strewth mate! Someone makes a fun, light-hearted observation that someone highly unlikely kind of resembles an Australian actor who's all but disappeared from the limelight and you immediately turn the sunny sky unnecessarily overcast. What's wrong Suzie? A trouble shared is a trouble halved. Can I help? ;)

[@vickielawson3114]

Suzie lost her cream cheese.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

@@vickielawson3114 Ha! I too would be cross if I opened the fridge to an almost empty tub of Philly. When the craving is strong and the the cupboards are bare-- it's no laughing matter. The small things in life going wrong can turn ogres into any of us because we rely on small pleasures. If the bigger things are also challenging us then terrible things can happen like being rude and weird to strangers online. Good on ya for having a laugh and spreading good cheer Vickie, and here's to Suzie's week getting better. :D It's important to note what kind of video we all watched together: neither you or I are average morons if we are drawn to videos like this and meet later in the comment section. If someone's looking for mean and rude morons online I'll gladly direct them to the applicable genre of videos/comment sections to hunt for. ;D

[@gratefulapostate3123]

Even a four year old child understands the absurdity of social equity. Try giving one child broccoli, and another child cake, and then explain that the reason that they have to eat broccoli, while the other child gets cake, is that their great grandparents ate cake while the other child's great grandparents were forced to eat broccoli, and see if they think that's fair.

[@mugushi54]

It feels good to be 'post woke' now. Thank you.

[@squatch545]

There was never any 'woke'., so how can we be 'post woke'?

[@hegemonycricket9549]

I heard a new word today: woketard. Crass, but fitting for some.

[@squatch545]

@@hegemonycricket9549 So your slurs and name-calling have moved on from SJW to woketard now?

[@hellucination9905]

@@squatch545 Yes! "And that is a good thing!"

[@proudatheist2042]

@@squatch545 wrong. When the trans movement is predicted on men pretending to be women give up their women's dedicated spaces and the right to be called "women," that's woke.

[@iSoldat]

Insanity has become mainstream. Postmodern academia needs to be institutionalized. They need to be barred from teaching, contact with anyone under 25 and from publishing anything.

[@grayforester]

Let us know when you get the power of decree.

[@suziecreamcheese211]

It’s not insanity it’s planned.

[@MrMirville]

@@suziecreamcheese211 It’s planned and it consists in witchcraft techniques mastered by far more conscious practitioners than you imagine. Most feminists who use feminism to destroy males are really witches developing powers and casting real spells to convert vital energy into money.

[@markymark8]

Censorship is not the solution, otherwise you are on the exact same level as them.

[@EM-bp5zv]

The most telling statement: I am independent I am free from the stifling university culture norms.

[@hovercraft-x9j]

Well done Helen, James and Peter!

[@Noname11364]

The lady in black is very intelligent and well spoken. She breaks this down effortlessly.

[@timeweston]

I think there is a disconnect between those who think about 'individuals' and those who think about 'self'

[@TheSwissChalet]

true. because there is a definite difference.

[@Wickwok]

Im responsable for 41 people in my organization. We are growing fast and hiring as many talented people as we can. With that said I gotta say I look at applicants with degrees in the social sciences as a detractor from their potential. That doesn’t mean I won’t hire them. In my experience they are not coachable. They’re so focused on changing the world they have failed to grow as people and their attitudes can be downright terrible. The universities are doing then a big disservice. Not every person but I have seen the trend.

[@crescendo5594]

You can easily vet the craziness with a few simple questions: 1) How do you feel you would positively impact the culture of our company? 2) Where do you see yourself in ten years? Perhaps only the first question would be necessary. In my opinion good applicants would discuss team effort, individual work ethic, and good communication. An activist would discuss fostering an inclusive and diverse environment, which sounds great on the surface, but those words don’t mean to them what the dictionary definition describes. As for the second question, a rational person would describe a better version of themselves, and an activist would describe a better version of society.

[@pavelrinn5714]

Love this. Finally someone is able to push back to stupidity...

[@coweatsman]

I can see lots of empty chairs. The room should be packed out. Seems like so little interest in addressing these issues. Like frogs ina bottle of slowly warming water not wanting to jump out as the water becomes too hot.

[@the81kid]

Why would people be interested in this? Anyone from the internet generation would avoid this as it would hurt their upvotes. Older people don't know it exists.

[@grayforester]

The movement needs more persuasive advocates than these young people. They are not persuasive.

[@the81kid]

@@grayforester "Persuasive" The problem with this is that corporations are the most persuasive people of all. Propaganda and marketing is very persuasive. It's an arms race, and you can't win an arms race against international corporations.

[@grayforester]

@@the81kid Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is persuasive. Match that, conservative youth. I think you can't.

[@blankblankpog]

Strong men creates good times Good times creates weak men Weak men creates hard times Hard times creates Strong men

[@khanaliqasim1757]

This is an oversimplification

[@therainman7777]

@@khanaliqasim1757 Yes, something that fits in four lines is bound to be a simplification when discussing something as complex as human civilization. That said, the essential idea it represents is well-supported by historical evidence.

[@JezaLoki]

Of all these brilliant speakers, Helen illustrates the point better than anyone.

[@CaptainSlapaDome]

It's not so much protecting the students from ideas, but protecting the proponents of bad ideas, and the bad ideas themselves, from scrutiny.

[@midwestfdwatch]

Watching 2 years after posting. Has it gotten worse? DEFINITELY and SADLY!

[@AcmeRacing]

I'm the same age as Boghossian, and in the fall of 1984 I got to college and I was greeted by non-stop bitching about Reagan. My favorite sport was asking my fellow students for examples of what he'd done that upset them. Not one gave me a concrete example.

[@anonymike8280]

Reagan was hated because he represented pushback against them. G.W. Bush (43) was hated for the same reason and so is Trump today. Reagan and Trump are hated in especially vivid ways because they have especially vivid personalities and have or had the capability of drawing people to their side.

[@tdb517]

Reagan deregulated the economy which indirectly caused the 2008 crisis

[@AcmeRacing]

@@tdb517 Please elaborate on that. Which Reagan-era policies led to the 2008 crisis? I'd pin the 1989-1990 recession and the Savings and Loan crisis on Reagan and George H.W. Bush. The collapse of 2008 came after 8 years of Bill Clinton and late in George W. Bush's second term; how is it Reagan's fault? I blame a lot of it on the .com bubble crashing the stock market, and higher energy costs due to continued war in the middle east.

[@tdb517]

@@AcmeRacing The deregulation allowed for speculators to buy and sell toxic subprimes, which wouldn't have been allowed before. It took more than 20 years to spread enough of these to make the whole economy dangerously unstable. A lot of the investors trying to suddenly sell those without any possibility to "detoxify" them created a panic that lead to the crisis. This isn't the only factor of course but it played a major role. These decisions were first taken under Reagan by Alan Greenspan (which was himself greatly influenced by Ayn Rand) and he pursued those policies later on.

[@AcmeRacing]

@@tdb517 HUD secretary Barney Frank pushed the banks to lend to unqualified borrowers. The push to write sub-prime mortgages was started under Clinton, and not fixed under George W. Bush. www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/12/hey-barney-frank-the-government-did-cause-the-housing-crisis/249903/

[@mikec6733]

Really admire these people. They're trying to forge a middle ground in an area that is fraught with severe emotional side taking. (to enable dialogue and real problem solving)

[@thirdpowerful1]

Andrea Dworkin was an early proponent of applying the "dismantling and reassembling" techniques of postmodern literary criticism (commonly referred to as "unpacking" these days) not only to works of poetry and fiction - but to real-world scientific inquiry as well. Human secual behavior, political theory, cultural development, religious tradition -- Dworkin examined all of these phenomena through her own narrow, English Department lens -- and then simply DECLARED her conclusions to be correct. Why? Well....just .because they WERE. They were HER truth, and was apparently good enough for her, most of the time. In fact, She was pretty forthcoming about the many shortcomings inherent in methods, and never seemed to have much of a problem admitting her utter lack of (and indeed, contempt for) supportive original research or citation to empirical proof. But see, the thing is: real-wotld social sciences don't work the same way literary criticism does. In the realms psychology, sociology, anthropology, political science, etc., there are RIGHT AND WRONG answers occasionally, which are susceptible to proof or refutation via tangible, observable, repeatable, peer-vetted evidence. The unmoored, free-form nature of contemporary literary critique -- useful though it may be to English professors and novelists -- is nevertheless woefully unsuited to any kind of scientific inquiry. AND YET,, heAndrea Dworkin was an early proponent of applying the "dismantling and reassembling" techniques of postmodern literary criticism (commonly referred to as "unpacking" these days) not only to works of poetry and fiction - but to real-world scientific inquiry as well. Human sexual behavior, political theory, cultural development, religious tradition -- Dworkin examined all of them through a narrow little English Department lens -- and then simply DECLARED yhe conclusions she drew to be correct. Why? Well....just .because they WERE. Her ideas were HER TRUTH, was apparently this was good enough for her, most of the time. In fact, She was pretty forthcoming about the many shortcomings inherent in methods, and never seemed to have much of a problem admitting her utter lack of (and indeed, contempt for) supportive original research or citation to empirical proof. But see, the thing is: real-wotld social sciences don't work the same way literary criticism does. In the realms psychology, sociology, anthropology, political science, etc., there are RIGHT AND WRONG answers occasionally, which are susceptible to proof or refutation via tangible, observable, repeatable, peer-vetted evidence. Thus, the unmoored and free-form nature of contemporary literary critique -- useful though it may be to English professors playwrights, novelists -- is wholly unsuited to any type of sAndrea Dworkin was an early proponent of applying the "dismantling and reassembling" techniques of postmodern literary criticism (commonly referred to as "unpacking" these days) not only to works of poetry and fiction - but to real-world scientific inquiry as well. Human secual behavior, political theory, cultural development, religious tradition -- Dworkin examined all of these phenomena through her own narrow, English Department lens -- and then simply DECLARED her conclusions to be correct. Why? Well....just .because they WERE. They were HER truth, and was apparently good enough for her, most of the time. In fact, She was pretty forthcoming about the many shortcomings inherent in methods, and never seemed to have much of a problem admitting her utter lack of (and indeed, contempt for) supportive original research or citation to empirical proof. But see, the thing is: real-wotld social sciences don't work the same way literary criticism does. In the realms psychology, sociology, anthropology, political science, etc., there are RIGHT AND WRONG answers occasionally, which are susceptible to proof or refutation via tangible, observable, repeatable, peer-vetted evidence. The unmoored, free-form nature of contemporary literary critique -- useful though it may be to English professors and novelists -- is nevertheless woefully unsuited to any kind of hard scientific inquiry. AND YET it's Dworkin's approach that eventually prevailed and now holds so much sway. ....God help us all.

[@geangarcia2673]

I am late to the conversation, but after graduating with my BA in English and having a woke foray into the graduate humanities program, I am here now! We liberals absolutely need to start pushing back on this ideology and preserve liberal education and free speech in America!

[@ATTACKaMAC]

"The word 'racism' is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything - and demanding evidence makes you a 'racist.' " -- Thomas Sowell -- a Black American economist, social theorist, and senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution

[@vickielawson3114]

I love Thomas Sowell. I hope more and more people get familiar with his work because it’s very important stuff.

[@hanichay1163]

The prof of my political science class invited his students to make a case if they didn’t think the grade on their paper was fair. When I did that he lowered my existing grade!!! From B to B-! Hilarious. Then he posted that it was wrong of me to warn my fellow students about it!

[@nomdeguerre8926]

Never have we seen a more blatant example of people who have arguably been historically oppressed, fervently yearning to become the oppressors, because were that not the case they would be content with the dismantling of elitism and elitist institutions -- which to a great extent is precisely where this madness originates.

[@TomGlm117]

My heroes! You three are the academy’s last hope. God speed (even if he doesn’t exist).

[@masada2828]

But He does!

[@d.s.2741]

"Research justice" (09:30); I'm concerned about the implications of that being introduced into public school programs in natural and physical sciences - it sounds like the curricula are compromised as is...

[@donvee2000]

My nephews school a couple years ago in 4th or 5th grade had an exercise that had all the white kids sit at the back of the class,and kids of color sit in the front, so the kids could learn what it felt like to be second class...lol I was like what are we f**king living in the 50s? My sister kept my nephew home that day. So did most of the other parents. Kids at that age are to young for that shit.... but they know that so thats why they do it. Lets lay a guilt trip on them while they're still nice and young. If I had a kid If I could I'd home school them for sure👍

[@Dancestar1981]

donvee2000 they don’t need that. I’ve seen so many intelligent people sucked in to the woke agenda and become white apologists when they have nothing to apologise for simply because they’ve been fooled by the left when they were at their most vulnerable. Also they have been threatened by them in their life so to maintain their jobs they become a mouthpiece for the very toxic ideologies they would have originally fought against