Hegel's Alchemy of Science | James Lindsay & Michael O'Fallon | Changing Tides, Ep. 7

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Sovereign Nations

Sovereign Nations

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@NomenNescio99
@NomenNescio99 3 жыл бұрын
Finally the fire pit is lit, oh how I've been waiting for this! Lindsay is always a joy to listen to.
@shredmetalshred7395
@shredmetalshred7395 3 жыл бұрын
is symbolic, when speaking about alchemy
@Zxuma
@Zxuma 3 жыл бұрын
And hammer.
@Arassar
@Arassar 3 жыл бұрын
And this is why whenever we hear them talking about "the science," we have to listen very carefully to what they're saying. Very often they are talking about things which are not science or even science-adjacent, but sound "sciencey" and serve their means. And we can't fight against it because, of course, that means we are "science deniers," and we are completely shut down when we have an actual argument to refute their stupid crap.
@silentb2084
@silentb2084 3 жыл бұрын
I always think of it as The Science (TM). Edit: They want to cite The Science (TM), not the scientists…because scientists are individuals with different hypotheses and conclusions that don’t always align with the predetermined outcomes of The Science (TM).
@comesahorseman
@comesahorseman 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@josedubois2295
@josedubois2295 3 жыл бұрын
I like how it ends in a fire pit with a beautiful fire. Burned and destroyed like everything Hegelian always ends up.
@spookypen
@spookypen 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@daheikkinen
@daheikkinen 3 жыл бұрын
The dialectic of s’mores
@zoltanrudolf
@zoltanrudolf 3 жыл бұрын
Michael is absolutely in awe of James. Just like rest of us.
@EmperorsNewWardrobe
@EmperorsNewWardrobe 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to James on these topics feels like listening to a great storyteller who happens to have the same effect as a great teacher, if you see what I mean
@intheweeds232
@intheweeds232 3 жыл бұрын
this series has been so riveting!! im sad this is the last of the series, and fervently hope you will reconvene. health and blessings to you all, fine gentlemen!
@kamasdancer2615
@kamasdancer2615 3 жыл бұрын
All I can say is: WOW, what rich quality content sustained in this amazing 7-part series. I'll add: read Hick's "Explaining Postmodernism" and also read "Cynical Theories" which was co-authored by James Lindsay with Helen Pluckrose. I have studied both books and those works live up to the promise of intellectual quality that these two scholars display quite enjoyably in this live video series.
@leedufour
@leedufour 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks James and Michael!
@stevecamp7527
@stevecamp7527 Ай бұрын
Brilliant discussion! Essential knowledge in being better equipped to answer today’s trajectory of decaying values, morals and ethics.
@heatherjaeggli4719
@heatherjaeggli4719 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, when the left says "trust the science," they definitely mean trust our talking head "experts." After this episode, I'm going to start calling that "science" philisophical alchemy. It isn't really science at all. (I'm tired of the left changing the definitions of everything.) Appreciate the alchemy analogy, James!
@grippercrapper
@grippercrapper 3 жыл бұрын
@@eliakimbenishchayil - Whether Hegel is a leftist or not is irrelevant to the point made by the original commenter. It also doesn’t matter if Marx had other influences. So long as Marx and leftists have been influenced by Hegel, I think the original comment can stand.
@NomenNescio99
@NomenNescio99 3 жыл бұрын
This episode was a little short.
@Ebsonic
@Ebsonic 3 жыл бұрын
Love this discussion. G-d bless you lot
@rodrigoserafim8834
@rodrigoserafim8834 3 жыл бұрын
If you think science as a hammer is bad, just wait until it becomes a sickle.
@RandomAussieGuy87
@RandomAussieGuy87 3 жыл бұрын
Great series.
@troyrahnedir
@troyrahnedir 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys! Compelling use of chiaroscuro!
@kevinmcgraw2362
@kevinmcgraw2362 3 жыл бұрын
We are trying to preserve something … trying to conserve our way of life. Much more difficult than what the opposition is doing - essentially bringing about fundamental change by demolition. They want to level to the ground the house we both live in, because the roof leaks, without ever considering where we’re going to live during it’s so-called reconstruction. Build back better indeed!
@RAndrewKReed
@RAndrewKReed 3 жыл бұрын
Analysis takes things apart and assesses their interrelation in a system...Synthesis seeks to take things as a whole. Why not have an approach that chooses when to best employ one or the other? We could call it common sense
@georginawhitby1320
@georginawhitby1320 3 жыл бұрын
That's true, be t it's not what Hegel is talking about. Hegel is selling something much closer to certain kinds of kaballistic formula where the man-as- god power hierarchies and power tactics sit above and invert all prior knowledge and systems of truth.
@RAndrewKReed
@RAndrewKReed 3 жыл бұрын
@@georginawhitby1320 Agreed...Hegel and Hegelians have fetishized the magical triad of thesis-antithesis-synthesis...I purposely juxtapose synthesis to analysis to rescue the concept from this unjustified mystification. After all, providing a nice synthesis of complex matters can be very useful.👍🏻
@comesahorseman
@comesahorseman 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! 👍😄
@newdiscourses
@newdiscourses 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@ThomsonBR42
@ThomsonBR42 2 жыл бұрын
It's great to see a liberals conception of Hegel's legacy. Realy puts it into persepctive.
@chuckcribbs3398
@chuckcribbs3398 3 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to see how this is affecting the Church.
@shredmetalshred7395
@shredmetalshred7395 3 жыл бұрын
"Hegel and the Hermetic Tradition" - it's a book. read it.
@tomchidwick
@tomchidwick 11 ай бұрын
The like counter is stuck on 666. That's weird.
@MrRonmcneely
@MrRonmcneely 3 жыл бұрын
Schopenhauer was right: Hegel was a monument to German stupidity
@briannichols3412
@briannichols3412 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it will work this time....lol
@crutherfordmusic
@crutherfordmusic Жыл бұрын
Jesus died for our sins according to the scriptures, was buried, and rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Proverbs 1 (KJV) 7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
@newrenaissance
@newrenaissance 3 жыл бұрын
COMFY
@Dan__S
@Dan__S 2 жыл бұрын
Always remember that Heigls dialect is a logical fallacy.
@miophx8283
@miophx8283 2 жыл бұрын
I came looking for this and I think you creative idea of a fireside chat makes for poor production visuals. Stick to a studio! This is silly.
@kristopherthomas7166
@kristopherthomas7166 3 жыл бұрын
It’s videos like this that convince me that James Lindsay is ignorant on purpose. He seems to understand the problem or issue and then denies it or disregards it because….reasons that he also denies and disregards.
@ChristinaChrisR
@ChristinaChrisR 3 жыл бұрын
How do you mean, can you explain further?
@debblouin
@debblouin 3 жыл бұрын
Let me guess-you’re a Hegelian.
@ChristinaChrisR
@ChristinaChrisR 3 жыл бұрын
@kristopher thomas just want to say, my question was genuine. (My questions always are, but I’m aware that that’s often not the case when people talk, especially on social media.) If you wanna elaborate more on your comment, I’d appreciate it very much. I haven’t read Hegel myself. Yet. And, when I yesterday, just as an example, was trying to find out what Hegels dialectics really was…every person/video had a different take. And in the comments section under each of the videos, there were people saying “you got this all wrong, you don’t know what you’re talking about”. James is a great, GREAT storyteller. And I’ve learned a lot listening to him - that however does not mean that I think everything he says is the truth, and I wanna know more. Thanks.
@briannichols3412
@briannichols3412 2 жыл бұрын
A system of science with no science.....
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