Heirloom vs. Hybrid Seeds - Which is Better?

[@VastCNC]

I appreciate you guys putting in the work to make sure you're sourcing and distributing quality seeds, and taking such care with coatings and genetics. I think the Hoss seeders may be due for tool of the week. Maybe even seed sizing, drilling blank plates, and all the fun stuff you can do with your seeders.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

As spring approaches, that will definitely need to be a show we do. Thanks for watching!

[@CaneCreekMusic1]

I’m with Travis. That butter crunch is hard to beat! I like to sauté beats and radishes together with some chicken breast and put it all in my salad.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Now that sounds tasty!

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

We really look forward to using the seed collection on our homestead.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

We look forward too seeing your excitement from growing some of these hybrid tomatoes. We think you will be impressed!

[@AJ4realJesus]

I grew the brandy wine last year in eastern and they produced very good. In fact most of my tomatoes heirloom and hybrid done great. Got very little disease towards the end of the season and that was mostly on hybrids.

[@sheilafade2016]

Love the butter crunch

[@michaeljohnson3976]

Love your opinion on organic seed. I was always suspect about these seeds.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

We try to keep it real.

[@shelleykienel2454]

Thank you for this show. Oh my gosh, I learned so much.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Thanks for watching Shelley!

[@hollynelson543]

Subscribed. Love your channel.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Welcome and thanks

[@cajungardener6044]

My first time to catch your show! Very good information on the seeds. How long have you been doing the show?

[@gardeningwithhoss]

This was our 37th episode, so going on over half a year. Thanks for watching!

[@californiagirl2095]

🌻First off, thank you for the reply to a comment I had made on a prior video, which questioned, why do we have to keep inventing new breeds of fruits, veg, etc, well again, thank you two for all the work that you do, I then came across this video, I did not know the terminology and what the differences are between an Heirloom seed vs a Hybrid, and my intial fear of all the GMO'S. This video was very informative and I can honestly say, that I would definitely order seeds from your company. I feel this video allowed me to see that the Hoss co. is definitely moving us, those that have a knee jerk reaction from all the saturation of all the sites that one will find selling a variety of seeds which can be overwhelming, to feel like, here is a place I can trust to purchase my seeds! When you show examples of the vegetables and leafy greens from your own garden that look so delicious, I'm sold😊. 🌻

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Glad you enjoyed our explanation. You can always give us a call or send us an email if you have any questions about seeds or tools.

[@lourenslouw7735]

Tanx for your info I agree 100% with you . I like planting with heirloom seeds its the best in my mind.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Thanks for watching!

[@LetTheWritersWrite]

That was one mighty crunch into the mic lol

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Good stuff!

[@Tara-sf7uu]

I have a question for you gentlemen: How does one keep homegrown carrots crisp after picking? Currently I remove the foilage in the garden as I pick, and I shake off all the dirt I can. Then I put them in the crisper drawer of my fridge. They seem floppy and wilty by the next morning. Any advice?(I spose I should confess that I am not out there picking at the break of dawn.Not sure it matters but I tend to wait til late evening to pick when the heat subsides)

[@gardeningwithhoss]

We wash ours, let them dry, then put them in a plastic bag similar to those used in the produce section at the grocery store. If we leave the tops on, we leave the bag open ended. If we have the tops removed, we'll tie the bag and poke a few holes in the bag for ventilation. We can usually get them to store 2-3 weeks in the fridge this way.

[@Bukbedowds]

Radishes can also be boiled, added to a roast, or roasted in the oven. 😋

[@alph8654]

I like both the butterhead and the romaine. I think i like the butterhead best. This year i grew a butterhead i got from Jonny's called Mirlo that m wife and i both liked real well. They did pretty good in the heat also.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

The butterhead has an excellent flavor and texture. The romaine is nice because it's cleaner with the upright growing habit.

[@alph8654]

@@gardeningwithhoss I agree with your assessment.

[@hhfarms5132]

USDA defines an Heirloom seed as a seed that has breed true to variety for a minimum of 50 years this now includes some hybridized seeds

[@gardeningwithhoss]

As times passes, yes it does.

[@ginsederp]

Hybrids (f1) by definition, does not breed true. A hybrid that has been stabilized for 50 years (f50+) is by definition no longer a hybrid for 50 years. Hybrids can never become heirlooms.

[@davidvick8253]

Does anyone have any thoughts on grafting a disease resistant hybrid tomato to a heirloom tomato to get the best of both worlds? I have never done this but want to try! Any response would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Grafted tomatoes have became increasingly popular lately, but it seems like most of the grafting is done for greenhouse varieties. Let us know if you try it and it works.

[@davidvick8253]

@@gardeningwithhoss thanks for your response. I am going to practice grafting now so when planting time comes around I will be ready. I will purchase your hybrid seeds to my heirloom and get back to you. thanks again great show.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Sounds good. We look forward to hearing the results. Thanks for watching!

[@Trivit30]

What kinda coat is that Trav? I wanna get one... L.L.Bean?

[@gardeningwithhoss]

That one is a Patagonia, but I have an LL Bean one as well that I really like.

[@Trivit30]

@@gardeningwithhoss didn't mean to get off subject ... it just stuck out... looks warm too

[@gardeningwithhoss]

No worries. Definitely needed it this week!

[@Trivit30]

@@gardeningwithhoss wish it would stop precipitating, reminds me of last year

[@meatstick6969]

For a person that wanted to save seeds for hard times and still grow enough food to can or freeze plus give out to neighbors in regular times would using your hybrids in your regular garden and use heirloom for maybe something like growing in containers,small raised beds or in smaller amounts in general? I know this is probably confusing lol. I will be buying my seeds from y'all this year. What's the best way to buy your seeds?

[@gardeningwithhoss]

For some crops, heirlooms may be very productive and work well. For others that are more susceptible to diseases (like tomatoes or cucurbits), hybrids may be the only way to ensure you make enough food to preserve. You can see all of our seeds here: hosstools.com/premium-garden-seeds/

[@davidvick8253]

I agree with your assessment of hybrid seeds. They do cost a little more money upfront but I think it's worth it. I still grow some heirlooms but harvests can be disappointing and diseases are almost guaranteed.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

The increased productivity is almost always worth it, especially if you're planning preserving the harvest.

[@davidvick8253]

Hey does any have any thoughts on grafting tomatoes. I think I may want to try to graft a hybrid disease resistant tomatoes to a heirlooms tomato but I have never done this and am not sure if it's worth the effort. Any replies would be greatly appreciated!!

[@waynebusse6376]

@@davidvick8253 Tomato root stock for grafting is from wild tomatoes from south america. Hybrid tomatoes are resistant to root born fusarium and other diseases that attack foliage. Wild root stock is completely immune to fusarium and the root system is more vigorous. This doesn't transfer to the foliage and it is still prone to disease.

[@christopher8943]

Can you make a hybrid heirloom cross? Like your Bella Rosa x pink brandywine? For more yields of tasty heirlooms?? If so I would love some of those plants or seeds.. Is that even possible?

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Cool idea!

[@joelhenderson3951]

Onions have been hybernized send an back in the 20s and 30s in Texas and New Mexico. Try the park whopper cr it will make many many tomatoes with great taste it is a hybrid! Monsanto is keeping those studies crushed!

[@gardeningwithhoss]

That's the issue with much of the research. It is funded by the same companies who want you to believe that there is nothing wrong with their practices.

[@shakengrain1942]

Blast from the past --- my grandparents grew/favorited Park's Whopper Tomatoes. Haven't heard that name in many years.

[@yetithruhiker9230]

Thank you.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Thanks for watching!

[@giftsfromthehive4594]

I am going to try growing "regionally adapted" seed this year- wondering if seeds changed by natural selection or artificial selection? (I am thinking artificial selection, but not sure if I am correctly following this conversation!) I am attempting to grow seed from plants normally grown in a warmer climate that have supposedly adapted to shorter growing seasons and colder climate- thank you...great show!

[@gardeningwithhoss]

If it involves the touching of human hands, it is technically considered artificial selection. But working towards variety that perform better in your climate is a great idea.

[@alph8654]

I appreciate your info on the treated seeds and the Neonicotinoids. I hardly ever use a treated seeds but did plant some long neck pumpkins this year that had been treated. I do not know what it was treated with. Travis mentioned how the neonicotinoids also harm the bees. Could you please explain that in a little more detail. Thanks !!!!!

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Neonicotinoids are systemic pesticides. This means they get inside the plant and the pest gets killed when they eat the plant. This also affects bees when they get pollen.

[@alph8654]

@@gardeningwithhoss Thanks - that is valuable information.

[@Big_Guwop713]

my main issue hybrids are many dont talk about how the molecule structure is altered/incomplete ie carrots yarrow root and wild carrot cross bred. yeah you have a carrot at the end of the day but its incomplete molecule structure which means all it breaks down to is a starch & starch break down to mucus in the body & add that mucus buildup 30, 40-50yrs of consuming it that turns into cancer. There's a lot more detail to this obviously but my goal isn't to show you how smart I am just share from my research and exp. just something to think about. Keep it up brothers love the tools

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Thanks for that perspective!

[@WILLITGROW]

hi travis love your stuff... now you also got me confused!! so if you sell hybrid seeds that means they are always F2 is that right?

[@gardeningwithhoss]

The hybrid seeds we sell are F1. If you harvested the seeds from these F1 crops, those would be F2. F2 seeds will not be true to variety.

[@countryfrau8328]

And roast them. I just throw in some radishes if I do any kind of roasting of other vegetables such as potatoes and carrots. I'm sure others also grill them or something but I've never tried it. That is GORGEOUS lettuce. I let some lettuces go to seed every year in my garden and it ensures I have no-effort lettuce popping up here and there every year.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Volunteer lettuce for years to come!

[@countryfrau8328]

I know you guys are really busy and no reply is expected but I just want to tell you how happy I am to have found you on youtube and to watch your shows. It is like being in the room with friends who are funny and friendly but who respect each other and know a LOT. I have one of your wheel hoes and it is surprising how easy it is to use. I did till when establishing the garden but from then on the wheel hoe has been sufficient. And I do use one of those stirrup hoes already and they are fantastic for getting in where the wheel hoe doesn't fit. So please keep on. It sounds like you are really expanding the products into other areas and I wish you guys the best. I'll be checking you out for ordering. Thanks again and good luck to you in your all of your business ventures! @@gardeningwithhoss

[@AJ4realJesus]

Organic foods have gotten to be grown from a garden that has not had anything grown on it for 7 years. Even the manure is from grass fed cows. Seed collected has got to come from farms that haven’t had contamination from pesticides . Just a little info. Is this what y’all understand as well?

[@swamppappy7745]

yep...wilt resistant is a safer bet. The hybrids have gotten better tasting than ten years ago.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

We couldn't tell a difference in taste this past year. If blindfolded, most people probably couldn't either.

[@tommathews3964]

Great show tonight! Lot of meat on the bone in this episode! Thanks for these great shows!! Darwin popularized the term "natural selection" and his simple distinction (although the entire study is quite complicated and detailed) was that natural selection was "not intentional" and artificial selection is "intentional." He went on to talk about "not touched by the hands of man" etc. One great example that everyone can relate to is in the animal kingdom. The weak or sickly elk calf that the wolf pack cuts out of the herd and feeds upon is eliminated from the herd. That animal never has a chance to reproduce, the herd is made stronger and perpetuation of a stronger breeding stock is ensured. Man had nothing to do with this and the result (stronger herd) was "not intentional." It's one of the major ways the predatory animal kingdom feeds itself. Will the wolves take out a healthy calf, sure they will, if given the chance, but they will go for the easy kill first. "Survival of the fittest" it's part of the plan. Good explanation of the hybrid/heirloom deal that causes so much confusion. Many confuse hybrids and GMOs and will deny themselves the benefits of growing some of the wonderful hybrid vegetables because of a GMO phobia. Please saute' Greg some vegetables, the man is hungry!

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Great explanation Tom. We'll see about getting Greg some groceries.

[@Kimberdad]

I try to explain to my "misinformed" friends that say "I don't want to eat GMO corn that has a BT gene" that chances are if it doesn't have the BT gene IN it; it has had MULTIPLE applications of a BT spray (or something much stronger) applied to it.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

Right. And B.t. is pretty harmless. It's OMRI certified for organic use.

[@meatstick6969]

I don't see how a human selecting the best seed by natural methods can be considered artificial. Humans are a part,of nature too and unless they're using unnatural methods I don't see how they can call it artificial.Im glad I stumbled upon you guys though. I'm learning things I didn't know.

[@gardeningwithhoss]

It's really just a technicality to distinguish human interactions vs. non-human ones.

[@KentsWatching]

These guys are a scream to listen to . Makes gardening manly ! Yeah !