Heliocentric QSC: The Most Surprising Weapon I've Used In A Long Time

Heliocentric comes in at a great time. The sandbox has shifted and we haven't seen a lightweight sidearm in a long time. Not only that, but with these types of perks. The QSC sits in a range that it can do well now with all the changes. The worst part is that it is a world drop. If you Heliocentric, I have what to look for on it. It has some PvE rolls, but mostly for PvP.
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[@CoolGuyGames]

This thing SLAPS LOL

[@jeremyb5080]

I had a lot of fun with restoration, radiant, and kill clip for ease of use. This thing is staying in my loadouts forever.

[@Elitenemesis14]

I got a moving target/kill clip. It slaps HARD

[@maisharona5861]

I got Heal Clip/Kill Clip; haven’t taken it off my syntho bonk Titan yet

[@adamowens5377]

Have you checked out the new stasis auto yet

[@marcmaiden7475]

Got Perpetual Motion and Incandescent on mine. Struggling to use anything else.

[@Mr_Smiffy]

To the 9 people who have gotten one of these to drop, we can all agree it sounds beautiful.

[@JaredWattier]

I have an incandescent demo one and I love it

[@pyr0lyZer]

Please don’t hate me…but I got the Perpetual/Kill Clip drop with Extended or Full Bore as barrel options. Handling MW was the only downside. But still happy that I got a good drop without a chase

[@xlightlessx7778]

Haven't used mine yet. I got Rangefinder and Precision Instrument though. Sounds good, but I have issues landing crits outside of Encore sidearms

[@Uchoobdood]

handling is the best MW in pvp! what u talkin about dood!@@pyr0lyZer

[@diontes1480]

​​​@@xlightlessx7778you need to spam it. Don't worry about about precision hits, it will come. You just need 2 or 3 MAXIMUM for a .67ttk, which will come very easy if you play your engagements right

[@fixer6236]

I have one with heal clip and kill clip and it's my favourite weapon this season. Truly beautiful sidearm. I feel like heal clip is a sleeper perk in pvp. Yes, it is only 30hp but it helps lowering the amount of hp you need to regen and allowing more aggressive play style.

[@EyySith]

yea heal clip pairs nicely with solar for that, allowing you to proc ember of benevolence without using any abilities

[@InsipidMoniker]

I got one to drop with Heal Clip/Incandescent and I love it in PVE.

[@wonkybomb1865]

Have the same roll and I really like it.

[@90001dizzy]

I need these rolls you guys have

[@route77productions]

It also heals nearby teammates, which is clutch in Trials.

[@sladevalen2120]

I want more sidearms like this to be in the kinetic slot. Especially rapid fires, which the only one is from root of nightmares.

[@denilsonthomas]

Get a raid group together

[@ayufever1978]

agreed. climbing over the raid wall is really hard for some of us. we need more accessible sources of certain weapon archetypes NOT locked behind the raid wall.

[@steiige]

@@ayufever1978ron is the easiest raid in the entire game lol. Man up and get in there.

[@KipVelcrono]

​@@steiigeits easy to you. I feel like people refuse to understand that.

[@steiige]

@@KipVelcrononah dog that shit is objectively easy only 2 mechanics and only 2 people have to do anything

[@matteeks8207]

Heal Clip/kill clip 🤌🏼

[@Icefall_Magister]

Only one I've had drop has that roll and I must agree

[@cyber8697]

Funny thing about this: In the final episode of the Massive Breakdowns podcast, they had Mercules on. And while talking about Lightweight Handcannons, and how weapons need to have appropriate stats for their activity (so a destination weapon like Waking Vigil isn't insane), Merc did bring up how sometimes they put out weapons in the World pool that have "really cracked" statlines, where he then cited Redback as an example. So then, they also asked him if there was any new Lightweight Sidearms on the way. And he revealed that he had built himself a Lightweight Sidearm, in a similar vein to Redback, for S22. And that it was his go-to weapon in PvP playtesting. ...I guess we now know which sidearm he was talking about.

[@mcfall03]

I feel like I have such a hard time getting these world drops but I love the way they look and the way they feel! Didn’t even know this one existed!

[@4CETH4N]

So far i have only gotten one to drop, chambered, flared, heal clip, incandescent. It is pretty fun in pve when sidearm are usable

[@Cymirian]

Heal clip and incandescent?? You lucky 🤬

[@thierrydumbardon4943]

Where Can i loot this sidearm

[@Joseph__Leonard]

Can we all agree that lightweight frames are some of the best weapons in the game, especially SMGs and Sidearms!

[@chrispysonic21]

I've got incandescent and moving target on mine, with a range MW. It's nutty in pvp. Ppl don't expect to get mowed down by a sidearm anymore. I still use my sunset AA, but it makes me happy we have another lw sidearm. It's my fave archetype for sure ❤ glad to see you showing it some love CoolGuy

[@GrilledLeeks]

I don't know what it is, but I just love weapons with silencers in D2, especially sidearms. There's Buzzard, 18 Kelvins, Allied Demand, and others I'm not remembering the names of. I can't wait to maybe get a chance to use this one

[@ShaoShaoMienshao]

Buzzard is my favorite because the polygonal barrel and reflex sight keeps your vision clear. The barrel doesn't kick up and blind me as badly as other silenced sidearms do.

[@GrilledLeeks]

@@ShaoShaoMienshao Buzzard does feel fantastic

[@shadows_star]

It all started for me in D1 with Havoc Pigeon.

[@MultiracialLion]

I. LOVE. This gun. My roll is totally not worth remembering (something with surrounded), but I've been having a blast with it in the crucible. I've only had the one drop (just like Psi Hermetic), but it feels so smooth, like it was made just for me. Really hoping we get foundry focusing soon so that I can get myself a better roll, because this is definitely going to be part of my rotation all the time, just like Keening.

[@Vidmast3r]

This is one of those rare times I watched the video and checked my vault in hope and was genuinely shocked to find a stability masterworked Helio with Full Bore/chambered, Accurized, Perpetual Motion and Kill Clip. I have no idea when I even picked it up! I can’t believe my luck!!

[@dutch_asocialite]

I haven't watched Destiny content in years, but seeing this... well, I think I feel the craving coming back.

[@Oblivion9996]

I'd highly recommend waiting maybe a week or so and keeping an eye on the Bungie help Twitter if you do want to play the game again, due to dome DDosing the servers are currently barely functional

[@dutch_asocialite]

@@Oblivion9996 Oh no, I've never played the game and I don't really intend, I just used to watch Destiny videos a lot back in the day.

[@Oblivion9996]

@@dutch_asocialite fair enough, probably a good decision for your sanity

[@loganpringle8904]

DUDE. I thought I was going crazy. I was using this for bounties yesterday because I didn’t have a sidearm in the vault. LOVED it. Went crazy in gambit

[@PoobahParker]

Just got my first roll of this sidearm after getting slapped around in rumble by it. Feels so good!

[@GingerBeardMan977]

only had 1 to drop and i'm already settled on its roll. small bore, app mag, enlightened action, kill clip. its a deadly little thing and i love it

[@Shinobi_Cartel]

0:21 you had me at lightweight Solar sidearm

[@Pharthrax]

1:52 you captured footage of the only Heliocentric trade in the history of the universe! That’s crazy.

[@garrettviewegh9028]

I really love also Hermetic V, it’s origin perk, with slow and freeze, and with the Duskfield grenade, lays a deadly trap for enemies. Making ad clear, and relentless enemies like Thrall, easy to take care of.

[@nathancole5791]

I have one with Heal Clip / Incandescent that feels really good for PvE. Used it during contest Crota and was regularly the last one alive on most encounters.

[@puthenveetilnoel]

I've been a lightweight sidearm evangelist for a while. Back in the day, the only one I though could hang is the farewell since it rolled rangefinder. Redback is a solid option since it had inherently twice the range of the farewell. But with the zoom change, all of the lightweights became playable. As long as you're using it as a sidearm, the lightweights are king. Slightly slower ttk than the adaptive (.067 vs .6), but its more forgiving (important as a cqc spam weapon), lightweight frame (inherently fast handling, higher jumps, and sprint speed), and manageably fast rpm (i hate full auto on sidearms. tap firing at lightweight max rpm is possible). Even without solid perks, the lightweight frames are carrying a lot of the weight. That being said, the world drop weapon rate is killing me. I've had like 2 drop and I'm almost 100 in season rank. Give us a focus, or at minimum a rng skew towards the new stuff like coolguy suggests.

[@imthescrubjay]

I got this thing on the first day of the season, I have like 1000 kills on it or something. I don’t even have a good roll. It’s so bad, but I am in love and I can’t stop using it. Granted, I am very much a lightweight sidearm enthusiast, but still the best when I was in a very long time. Like since anonymous autumn went away. . . My only problem with it is the same problem that I’ve had with pretty much every light weight, except for the Ikelos you can’t see. The recoil doesn’t settle before the rate of fire, and your gun model just covers everything up. And you can adjust to it, you can get used to it, it just takes a lot sometimes.

[@cyan5161]

If they made it so legendary world armor stopped dropping after you've obtained it in collections it would help a ton with the world drop pool issue imo. There's absolutely no need to keep getting legendary armor from world engrams with all the ways of getting high stat legendary armor that are in the game now, unless you're a brand new player of course.

[@kaj413]

Hello CG! Precision Instruments is a different Headseeker. 'Weapon hits increase precision damage'. Haven't messed around with it too much yet, but you may want to take a deeper look.

[@jdhenry1610]

This thing shines in PvE as well Id say. I have one with heal clip and adrenaline junkie and it’s very nice. Heal clip is great, just so nice for survivability. Sidearms are quite lethal in PvE and I personally believe are the most underrated weapon type in the game. Overall, I’d definitely keep an eye out for it

[@DredgenAsh]

This dropping with max range along with heal and kill clip had me more hyped than getting a raid exotic to drop

[@burton528hz]

Thank you for the heads up. I got a moving target kill clip roll that I stuck in the vault. I had no idea it was an anonymous autumn sibling. I deleted my AA 😢. Can't wait to try this now.

[@jeremyrotenberg8426]

A while back the gunsmith sold a sleeper God Roll of the seventh seraph sidearm, and I can confirm that this archetype slaps hard. Smallbore//accurized//zen moment//threat detector//range mw

[@GavinLIVE715]

It’s because of this gun I found out Enlightened Action and Precision Instrument existed. That dropped for me first day of the season. Honestly I wish I had kill clip with enlighten action now that I’ve seen it, but it’s a good gun either way. This thing melts people, but precision instrument is hard to stay on target with how that perk ends if you miss. Definitely want the Enlightened/KClip combo.

[@pelarinbacosiii448]

I always love your approach to producing content. Thanks for this! I've gotten 3 Heliocentric QSC drops so far that I've been itching to try out. I miss living in Chicago. Aloha, from upcountry Maui.

[@adrianbarboza3602]

I had no idea that gun even dropped

[@herbalT13]

Me either. I play destiny a lot and have never had this weapon drop. I'm a big side arm lover too. Would love to get my hands on this thing

[@jaredtherock5692]

PvP mains: This is pretty cool PvE mains: Totally, dude Lore mains: This weapon was made by Nadir, a foundry that created the Nemesis Star exotic in Destiny Rise of Iron, in which their Origin Trait must be a homage as it does the opposite of what Nemesis Star's exotic perk did. Well played, Bungie. Well played.

[@azura6648]

On the note of sidearns. The decoupling of range abd zook has killed hip fire grip on sidearms. Cpuld get around 23 metres with Boudica from the hip, now it only gors as far as the ADS. Effectively making it useless on sidearms.

[@celestialwoof6306]

My first drop was a heal clip frenzy and I absolutely Love it. PVE main to the end and this thing slaps. Even pulled it out during day one it just felt comfy with the extra damage.

[@itsfr0st_gg]

i got one with hammer-forged, accurized, pm, kill clip and a reload mw. never really liked sidearms much, decided to give it a try and it’s one of my mains now in crucible. love this thing on dawnblade with a hand cannon or pulse.

[@TSGN_Leviathan]

Hey CoolGuy, have you noticed the following? Since season of the deep started, all legendary trace rifles and also coldheart acquired a very obstructive muzzle flash. I have used your review of path of least resistance as evidence but still nothing from Bungie. Watch the gameplay in that video then fire that gun today. Same for all other legendary ones and coldheart. It’s so intrusive and it’s actually giving people I spoke to on Reddit headaches which is why they have had to chuck them in the vault.

[@CoolGuyGames]

I will look into it too and if so let's get it on radar 💪

[@TSGN_Leviathan]

@@CoolGuyGames thank you, not just a cool guy but a legend as well!

[@kevinbutler7619]

I finally had one drop today while getting Wishender, and it's a pretty good roll imo. HFR or small bore, accurized rounds,enlightening action, kill clip, and RL MW. This sidearm is amazing. I used it in trials and got most of my kills with it.

[@dutch_asociaIite]

Suppressed pistols have no equal.

[@Mugiwara2k]

Just FYI, Bungie confirmed on Reddit that they plan to bring back focusing for foundry and world drop weapons next season. Hopefully that should make getting weapons like this one just easier come next season.

[@BasicallyBreezy]

Just got this sidearm to drop for the first time. Got hammerforged appended mag perpetual killclip and a stability MW. I’m loving this lil guy

[@williamvictor3539]

I got one of these for the first time the other day. Dropped with Kill clip and enlightened action and a range masterwork! Very excited to try it out if the game ever becomes stable enough to play.

[@calebcreates3350]

Mercules tweeted about Redback several months ago, and I discovered I had the same exact roll. It's been one of my all-time favorite Crucible weapons. So I'm keeping my eye on this one should I get a good roll to drop!

[@ip_freely]

I have this with Precision Instrument - it wrecks! I get way more critical hits than you would think possible - the hit registration has magic sauce.

[@zhalosupercell9518]

I have a red back with small bore, steady rounds, killing wind, opening shot and range masterwork. And man does this thing rip, for some reason it out stats every other lightweight sidearm and it comes with the veist origin trait which is a godsend.

[@minimelegend]

Haven't used it in PvP but I got a heal clip, incandescent roll and found it in my vault and took it in for crota raid. Great little sidearm!

[@AtlRopeGuy]

😂😂😂 I love the MIB thumbnail!! Thank you Coolguy!

[@kenrocker7427]

He’s clip precision instrument is godly in trials. Also incandescent heal clip has clutched up for me many many times. I’ve crutches this weapon since trials got checkmate rules and it’s carried me to the lighthouse ever since!

[@connorgoonman9500]

The heal kill combo has helped mitigate my reservations about kill clip. I frequently don’t have enough health after a gunfight to make kill clip viable. So it helped me out a shocking amount.

[@OFLBRAVEFIGHTER]

I was fortunate enough to get one with Demo and Incan for PvE. Can't wait for sidearm mods again.

[@ilikaplayhopscotch]

Can't wait to get it in three seasons. Wooo Also the thumbnail was great, well done.

[@Xander--gd5lb]

It’s a great gun. I managed to get Extended Barrel, Flared Mag, Perp Motion, Kill Clip, Range MW. It 100% performs. When they give us foundry focusing next season, I’m going after a Heal Clip + Incandescent/Frenzy roll for PvE. Shred adds at mid-tier activities with a health sustain perk.

[@danielurena844]

I've always loved LW sidearms even before the range normalization, I love them as secondary weapons, but damn it is hard to get them, we definitely need a craftable LW sidearm

[@jrockz133t]

I don't know what's worse. This era of world drops or the Edge Transit era. A this point, make dedicated farms. Have a lost sector have a high chance to get 3 different world drop legendaries, with a guaranteed drop in legend, and double or triple in master lost sectors. If there was a farm, I'd play that activity to get guns like THIS

[@nextdownfall]

LMAO 9 of us. Dude, I play this game quite a bit (that's an understatement :)) and I didn't even recognize the sidearm :( The world drops are crazy rare.

[@TimothyMark7]

healing clip with kill clip on this is like perfection and slap on the full auto mod for the perfect jack of all trades sidearm

[@d1000nuts]

Just realized I have one in my vault with Corkscrew, Accurized rounds, range MW, moving target and kill clip. I’ve been meaning to test it out, guess I finally will.

[@VoidUnderTheSun]

I feel like the weighting should be largely equal BUT: Let the Gunsmith take up a bit of this old roll. Give us a better way to earn Gunsmith reputation and allow that rank up package to be traded for a pool of foundry weapons, any world Omolons, any world Häkkes, etc. Hell, if that's too much what about a weekly selection: this week you get Häkke heavies, SUROS specials, and any foundry's Autorifles. Rank up (quicker) -> get a Gunsmith engram -> cash it in for one of these pools.

[@adamstaples9158]

The new world weapons are so cool. I’ve only dropped one of these, but it had heal clip and kill clip and I was so pumped.

[@Finite0000]

I have one with rangefinder and pinpoint. I can't check my stats because of bungie maintenance but I recall them being really good. I use it in PvP often because all the perks just add together for a lot of accuracy.

[@reacher69330]

Damn im glad i kept the enlightened action/kill clip roll w/ range MW that dropped for me the other day. Trying it out asap

[@McMackster]

My Helio is the exact same roll but with Moving Target and Precision instrument and can 4 tap Precision without having to reload. It's insane how underrated this sidearm is.

[@Neo_X90X]

This was my og sidearm before anything else came around years later. Damn it's good to back buuuuuuut aggressive frames are my favorites now and with a dmg boost, they just mow down anyone with a burst or two.

[@JeffreyMcLain]

Noisy cricket! I lol'd - excellent reference

[@TheFawse]

I managed to get one with Smallbore/Fluted, Extended Mag, MT, KC, Range MW. Haven’t tried it yet since I haven’t been playing a ton, but I’m sure it’s very good. After looking at it on Foundry I don’t think I’d change a single perk on it, though the third perk doesn’t seem to have any obvious choices anyway. HC, MT, PM, and Demo all seem like solid choices

[@RR0CKYY]

Im one of the 9 that got it! I have an enlightened action precision instrument roll, i like how with those 2 perks and the origin trait, it basically says shoot this gun, and it gets better!

[@patriot459]

The noisy cricket is the best way to describe these little side arms. I don’t know if the iron banner side arm is the same archetype but I feel like John wick out there with the suppressed pistol and these things are little buzz saws! To bad it’s a world drop so I’ll probably never get a good roll.

[@wumbology72]

this gun makes me so happy, i loved the spoiler alert but the perks were pretty shit. this thing not only has the suppressor for aesthetics, but also good perks.

[@ThaAlecman]

Glad a permanent foundry focus is coming soon to combat the world loot pool

[@SavvyMon4]

Got a demo + incandescent, tactical mag, corkscrew rifling and a range masterwork. Love it in Pve

[@luckybuizel15]

I got moving target incandescent day one from my first engram this season. havent been able to put it down for long at a time since if I can fight up close. absolute monster this thing!

[@wonkybomb1865]

The roll I have with heal clip has been really good. Getting a kill then reloading and getting that chunk of healing saves your bacon more often than I thought it would.

[@colts1118]

This is sooo good. I’ve been singing it’s praises for the last few weeks

[@the_real_ick]

I guess I might be one of the nine. Extended or Hammer Forged Rifling, Accurized Rounds or Tactical Mag, Perpetual Motion and Incandescent (missed it by that much...) with a Range masterwork. Using Extended Barrel, it's 100 recoil and hits a range of 61 with the masterwork. Impressive little pea shooter.

[@garrettviewegh9028]

With the Banshee update including Foundry weapon focusing, I hope Bungie adds Tex Mechanica, Nadir, Daito, and Crux/Lomar, to Banshee too. And new and old Black Armory weapons and armor to Ada-1 respectively. Imagine going to Ada-1 for a god roll, or red border, BA weapon? It’d give more incentive to visit her besides shaders and armor.

[@pneuma9272]

D2 team is on record saying world drop focussing is coming next season.

[@diontes1480]

Never sleep on Precision Instrument on this. It is a natural .67ttk with 4 head 1 body. Instrument brings it to 3/2 on high resil, 2/3 on low. Its Target Lock for headshot junkies. This makes me hope they reintroduce Spoiler Alert with Precision Instrument and make it Nadir. The stars cannot align enough since we are getting into endgame of the Light/Dark saga

[@themortreport]

The drop rates of the world weapons drive me crazy. I'm +19 on the season, I have a fractured foot, so been playing a ton, and I have gotten ONE of these. I usually reset all venders on 3 characters every week. I can't tell you how many times I went to collect everything and get something like two Typhons and a Palmyra. Hell they are from S16, launch of the god damn Witch Queen!!

[@Moonblade64]

I got this first week of the season. Healclip Precision is my go too. It literally hard carried through day 1 crota. Perfct weapon for close range and so many bonuses without losing on anything important

[@theoutlaw6044]

I have a Heal+Kill Clip roll with tac mag, Hammerforged and Range MW, really want to try it out in Crucible but just haven't gotten around to it especially with how these past couple days have been

[@kyreek2101]

I got a heal clip/kill clip roll and almost dismantled immediately before I waited for a review 😅 so happy I did.

[@DiddyCanFly]

I have a near perfect roll and can confirm that this is nutty.

[@Akwardave]

No heliocentric yet, but ive got a ~4/5 Redback from the world pool! Its 47 Range, 60 base Stability, AND Perpetual Motion on top of that. Thing's a dream to shoot! Lightweights have always been a favorite, but they need a good roll. i wish there were more out there

[@Sliq_tv]

Heal clip also heals your teammates so you can activate Ember of Benevolence with it as well as Noble Deeds

[@aaronpiper5150]

Frankly as a serious grinder for weapons I like the low world drop. Makes some things show up that you don’t see every day. It gets old to see metah EVERY match.

[@chip7522]

It’s nice to have a lightweight in the energy slot. I have grenade solar builds for all 3 characters and I got a Small bore, Accurized, Enlighted action, adrenaline junkie that is amazing. Lots of good perks.

[@naiveveg8447]

I really want spoiler alert to come back. High impact reserves on lightweight sidearms have a huge damage buff near the end of the mag.

[@joemarshall4254]

Been waiting 10 seasons for this!

[@SAMLEE-dd6rq]

Rangefinder + Precision Instrument feels so nice.

[@jeffreyadams9506]

Been saving every role waiting for your video to tell me what to keep!

[@jagan9235]

I want seraph sidearm to be good so bad, it looks so good

[@somethinstubby5928]

I have been waiting for this video since the very first one dropped for me THANK YOU CG😁

[@ashleejones586]

I’ll keep sayin’ it….sidearms are underrated in this game. The amount of times I’ve gone off with Drang or Cryothesia is probably more than any weapon for me

[@QIDOM]

I’ve got a low range heal clip/kill clip roll and I used it in place of a shotgun as backup during the last iron banner and it was putting in work.

[@swarlly]

I love sidearms in PvP but SMG still need to be reigned in even more. They should be 21M max range that way it doesn't feel like you're handicapping yourself when you use a sidearm.

[@CrunchyMaggots]

I've been waiting for a lightweight sidearm for a LONG while. Takes me back to Zeal Vector every time I use one. Obviously nothing hits like that used to, but it feels great to rip with a spam sidearm again.

[@someperson5001]

Heal+Kill clip is PVP amazing. Heal clip + incandescent is so PVE good I completed the GM Nightfall this week with it. It’s too good not to have.

[@not_parker]

I literally did not know this gun existed until I watched this. I really wish banshee could focus world/foundry drops

[@Fier07112]

I got quite a few drops of this. One with kill clip and heal clip, stability MW accurized. One with heal clip and incandescent, range MW appended. Enlightened kill clip (shitty left column and MW) and a few others sitting in my vault. I run the heal clip kill clip and enlightened kill clip in pvp

[@Based_Shogun]

I've always liked the lightweight sidearms in general. I got a decent PVP one of these with corkscrew, accurized, moving target, KC, stability