Hell Let Loose Gun Tier List After 2500 Hours of Gameplay (2024)

[@ByztinBadger]

The only redeeming feature of the grease gun is that every bullet seemingly has about a 20% chance of being headshot regardless of range.

[@wohl3r]

Yo wtf i've always felt this

[@Dallas_2250]

I feel like the random headshot rate got nerfed a bit a few patches ago. They still happen, but bullets sometimes felt like they were magnetized to helmets back then. Haha

[@I.AM.ON.MY.WAY.]

I’ve had way too many random headshots with the greasy boy, sometimes across fields

[@The_SmorgMan]

My best headshot to this day is 1 round from my mp40 at 198 yards. On Utah beach. Having a recon duel with my buddy. I was spotter. Found the guy, guessed the bullet drop and somehow landed the headshot.

[@luierdaneenpamper3877]

​@@The_SmorgMani hit a shot like that with the m1911, 178 yards/ meters in my case

[@nicholas7627]

I'd take the 98 over the m1 carbine any day.

[@lunitter355]

MP40 is A tier for sure

[@JadenSmithEyes]

It's wild to me how different our rankings would be on 80% of the guns. Just different inclinations for everyone. At least we can all agree Garand is easily #1

[@andruwjonez]

stg is the best, its much better than the garand in closer quarters

[@Slim-Thicc]

Garand front sight is to thick, D tier

[@jxyeee6525]

Bren gun is pretty good in medium to long range and if you can be on the move, the bipod provides the flexibility if you tryna shoot stable, I’d choose it over Lewis gun anytime.

[@JohnyX8881]

It's also the only MG that allows you to use sights while not deployed.

[@BasedStruggler]

​@@JohnyX8881Yeah but it's got the same mag cap as the STG44 but removes a good portion of your FOV

[@blacksanta7367]

The m1 carbine being put over the MP40 genuinely hurt my soul. Also, as someone who "mains" assault, specifically raider class, the grease gun deserves an automatic fucking F tier. I mean if you're comparing it to the other raider classes that have the PPSH, STG, and Bren gun, it literally does not even compare.

[@Dallas_2250]

I’m hoping they change the last loadout for the assault class for the American forces someday. Swapping the grease gun for the BAR would be great, but even swapping it for the Thompson would bring it a bit more in line with the other factions’ loadouts for that level.

[@Mr_The_Pooh]

Dont sleep on the M1 Carbine

[@blacksanta7367]

@@Dallas_2250 If the automatic rifleman class gets the STG on german side, and so does assault lvl 9, you'd assume that the assault class for americans would get the BAR instead of the grease gun lmao

[@crowz6898]

idk what you are talking about. the grease gun is my go to gun for the americans, i understand why on paper its the worst smg, but in practice the gun feels so good and in my opinion the only time you will be outclassed by the mp40 is in very close quarters (clearing a house or a trench). also its a headshot machine with non existent recoil and a very decent sight picture

[@blacksanta7367]

@@crowz6898 "The only time it will be outclassed is in close quarters" hmmm. Well the gun, and assault class, is kind of MADE for you to play in close quarters lmao. Its fire rate is so slow I can unironically shoot an m1 garand faster than the grease gun, and in comparison to the other raider classes, the grease gun is dogshit. STG is a 1 shot with faster fire rate, bren gun is a 1 shot, and the ppsh has an insane fire rate.

[@Neyko98]

KAR98 on D?! are you drunk buddy

[@rockyracoon7181]

Bro love your videos but I’m being 100% honest here you seem like your having a bit of a struggle on this video mainly the commentary. Still though keep it up man.

[@commandercrane1945]

Fair, I don’t do this often.

[@Assault671]

@@commandercrane1945 Respect to you for just sending it and making a video man! On a real side, do you write down bullet points on what you’re talking on, or write a script? Or are you winging it? Have you ever thought of having someone help you proofread/spice up your writing before you make a video? I’d love to help with that somehow!

[@commandercrane1945]

@@Assault671 It depends, I used a script for this one. Yeah I may take you up on that if I do another project like this.

[@Assault671]

@@commandercrane1945 Please do! I’m a irl vet with a passion for writing, speaking, and war history, and I play this game more than I’d like to admit! The prospect of a challenge, and helping out Commander Crane? How can I resist!

[@Julian-f1p]

​@@commandercrane1945bro you gotta loosen up a bit and not sound so robotic lol. Love your stuff tho

[@randallsavagegaming6638]

PPSH not being S tier is a snub. The thing is a headshot magnet, and I dread hearing it when I’m on the other team.

[@commandercrane1945]

True, I didn't think it matched with the S tiers because it really is not great for long ranges.

[@speedy8501]

@@commandercrane1945PPSH stick mag and drum mag has different stats

[@tomahawk8890]

​@@speedy8501 Really? Like, different damage stats? I'm going to guess the stick is the better variant.

[@JPWatershoes]

@@tomahawk8890depends on what you’re doing. Offensive mode in Kursk clearing trenches the drum slaps.

[@SeemsLogical]

I think the PPSH was ranked appropriately. It's not a bad gun, but none of the Russian maps favor it. Russian maps are notorious for being long range fighting. There's pockets of house fighting but not big enough to warrant it over a rifle. When they make an urban Soviet map I will reconsider it being ranked higher but putting it as average is appropriate.

[@STIPanda]

As soon as the MP40 landed in C tier I knew this video was going to be whack. MP40 can dump people at ridiculous ranges. Its at least an A tier

[@jacobolson6145]

S even

[@don4key935]

The only flaw this gun had Was the magazine so you couldn't prone well with it in ww2

[@corbensquirrel8245]

NO way the shotgun is that low. Outrageous

[@durgun8247]

It's a lot of fun to use but an SMG is better in most cases. If you're at the right distance from the enemy the pellets will spread out just enough that you can almost always get one shot kills even if your aim is sub par, but that doesn't happen much.

[@boone4531]

It's better than the m1 carbine lol

[@SoulStealer702]

No way is the BAR in the same realm as the MG42.

[@GFM_hanfDalf]

BAR should be in E Tier Like the Bren Gun

[@boone4531]

​@@GFM_hanfDalfboth are fine

[@charliecain6363]

M1 carbine being over the MP40 and Thompson is criminal

[@mikecalitri9894]

MG34 has much more controllable hip fire than the MG42. This would have been worthwhile to mention.

[@assortedlunatics4381]

I also sometimes use it to confuse the enemy as the mg34 is what is used in tanks

[@damizygzag259]

DP 27 should be able to aim without using bipod just like bren gun. It is even aroud 1kg ligher than bren

[@captin-crane3324]

I personally think the FG42 should be allowed to have its bipod for the classes it’s assigned too, even the scoped one. The BAR on the Machine gunner class should be the later model with carry handle and bipod. And I agree with the flamethrower. It should burn buildings and bunkers because that’s what it was used for. Cleaning out fortified positions. Pistols need a buff. The Walter P38 and PO8 need recoil nerfs because it’s a 9m (and pretty much the same thing) the negant revolver and Colt .45 auto need to be one shot kill to the chest at close range. Not sure about the Tokrev (Soviet semi auto pistol) Would love if they added the PPSH that had its rate of fire slowed to conserve ammunition though

[@indrahll]

2500 hours mostly seeding right?

[@LiterallyPluto]

FG42 automatic would be A tier for me if it had more magazines.

[@commandercrane1945]

Yes, its rank is mostly due to its low ammo. I almost always run out of ammo when using it.

[@aveator7723]

idk why that is the guns fault. I wouldnt put the fg42 over STG in the same class but a bipod, semi auto selector, and 4 more mags would be S tier.@@commandercrane1945

[@SeemsLogical]

I relegate it to "playing defense" for that reason. At least then you can have a spot to return to for ammo later.

[@TheGreyWolf94]

You kinda lost me a little on this when you put the M1 Carbine in B tier and the Kar98 and SMLE in D tier. Both are superior to the M1 Carbine, which is just weak - D or E tier at best!

[@eggs904]

lost me when he put the mp40 in C tier, besides the guns in S tier, the only gun I would use above it would be mg42 which is situational so I'll probably pick mp40 most of the time

[@AGC479]

Putting the M1 Garand at the top of the S-Tier, I see you're a man of culture.

[@jackncoke8527]

It’s only real downside imo is the B-17 wingspan sized front sight post

[@ihavenoidea2735]

Lmfao, so fuckin true ​@@jackncoke8527

[@boone4531]

​@@jackncoke8527i always found those sights easier to use than any other rifle

[@blem5376]

No

[@BasedStruggler]

The FG42 not having a bipod pretty much ensured it goes unused. Its horrible at long ranges and its definitely worse at short ranges compared to the STG44 and the MP40. A bipod would have been its only redeeming quality.

[@JackChurchill101]

The trench gun - shotgun - is far better than E tier. With one shot instant kill at close range, you don't need more than five shots, as you've already killed everyone before reloading. It's useless at long range, but that's fine. For urban and trenches, it's a B tier.

[@kevinmichael9384]

Pretty much agree with the list but for me personally the mp40 is s tier. Im effective with it 150 to 200 meters, at that range i just aim at the enemies feet.

[@NEWY78]

NO WAY YOU PUT THE KAR98K INTO D TIER GOD DAM YOU MUST SUCK AT THE KAR98 TO PUT IT THERE if I made this I agree with basically all of it BUT I'd put the Kar98 in a bare minimum of an B tier but most likely an A tier

[@nebolouses]

i stopped watching at 1:50, M1 Carbine above MP40 and Thompson :D hahaha also die total Overwie at 11 Minutes is so random

[@__chevytrucks__]

The Bren is better than the Lewis gun because in a defensive position, it has better FOV because your irons don’t obscure wtf you’re shooting at. Furthermore, Automatic Rifleman can also use the Bren gun and it is essentially a better BAR. Quick kills, deployable for 2 classes, has 10 more rounds per magazine than the BAR, and faster fire rate than the STG.

[@SeemsLogical]

The Bren occluding the whole right side of your vision is what everyone hates. It's hard to react to an enemy when you don't know he is there because he was hidden by your own gun magazine. I suppose you can just make sure you always got a wall on your right side but no other machine gun needs that accomodation. The Lewis gun isn't great but it's at least on par with the other machine guns.

[@blem5376]

He’s got an American bais

[@Litterbugtaylor]

2500 hours, does not know the lewis and dp 27 have the exact same mag size

[@Dismal626]

dude ive been playing on the same server with you for a while now and I just realized I'm subscribed to you haha. I go by dizmul if you remember me in game

[@commandercrane1945]

I remember seeing you. I'll keep an eye out.

[@sonsofmothers]

I used to be an M1 Carbine hater, now im a die hard user. It can pop headshots from miles away, and its excellent in close quarters with its fast rate of fire, 1-2 shot kill, and no recoil. Body shots from distance are the only time it feels terrible, which can happen a lot unfortunately

[@techienate]

M1 carbine is the absolute worst primary gun in the game, imo.

[@kalilmeireles392]

Dude you deserve more subs

[@commandercrane1945]

Thank you

[@RenerDeCastro]

Tbh the Bren Gun is better than you think it is, on account of being able to ADS while standing instead of being exclusive to being deployed. I'd give it a C tier because no other MG with a bipod can do that without being deployed first.

[@commandercrane1945]

I've just been shot too many times because the magazine was blocking my vision. I'm sure it's alright at long distances and deployed on like el alamein.

[@N.Eismann]

I have to say, holeheartedly disagree. The M1 Carbine e.g. is inferior to the Thompson and Mp40 in almost any regard imo. All three have poor muzzle velocity, damage output is roughly on par, versatility is muuch higher on the SMGs, one tapping is as easy with the Mp40 as the M1. The unscoped FG42 is easily better and more versatile the M1, as well as the choices for MG placement are weird. I think a longer format would have helped you to make your placements more understandable

[@commandercrane1945]

If you get a handful of HLL vets together to make a tier list, it would be all over the place. I think the ones most people agree with are the top and bottom, everything in the middle is more of, opinions.

[@durgun8247]

@@commandercrane1945 I think a lot the difference in opinions comes from how the guns interact with a persons skill set. If you tend to panic when an enemy randomly shows up at close range you'd likely be better off with an SMG than a semi auto.

[@commandercrane1945]

@@durgun8247 When I first started playing the game, I preferred the SMGs because they are more generous if you miss.

[@coltonchristie8268]

Not a shred of emotion in the voice

[@Tovalokodonc]

Spot on tier list, except for the M1 carbine. That one belongs in F or D.

[@danielkobak4003]

Bro talks like a robot

[@cliffbowls]

Rate of fire isn’t everything with MGs, sometimes I take the 34 over the 42 because it doesn’t attract as much attention.

[@Arc4de-w2z]

literal bullshit

[@Kevin-rz8vx]

Based on your own preferences you can forgive some weapon stats so the list changes a lot. For me the MP40 is A tier since the sight is easy for me to use and keep shots on target thanks to the slower ROF. Greasegun is F tier because the sight is so poor i rarely land any shots. I'd put the BAR at S tier for the same reason as the MP40 but with the benefit of 1 hit kills.

[@jacobolson6145]

I only have a thousand hours but in my opinion the mp40 is a or s tier that thing head shots at 250-300 meters for me regularly and is just so versatile. Like I said it can take people out long range or up close. Lay down suppressive fire or be selective and accurate. It’s one of the best in my opinion.

[@tntfreddan3138]

For those who put the Kar98 low on their lists, I have just one thing to say. Git gud. I get frequent 10+ kill streaks and have no problem getting 50+ kills in a game with it.

[@Sanches00001]

Well in my opinion this tier list is pointless, since (as you also mentioned in the end of the video) it all depends on a class and situation that you plan to encounter. Maybe its better to have only 3 tiers in that case: Great (M1 Garand, Gewehr/SVT, MP 40, Thompson, MG42 etc), Mediocre (M1A1, Grease Gun etc.) and Trash (almost all British weapons and so on)

[@DayOfTheRope]

Ppsh isnt useless long range.u just cant shoot far. Bullet doesent travel the same as way in cod 😊 - 3000 hours of cs2, 1.3k hours hll😊

[@Duharharhar]

You're not considering the Bren for automatic rifleman. The bipod lets it take accurate 2 round bursts from insane ranges, 2 shot kill at like 300m.

[@DanISmyMan]

I don’t even enjoy playing the British but the rifle NO.4 and Bren are by far my favourites.

[@ryuhanja3415]

Ngl mg-42 needs a nerf it should over heat and not have 250 rounds, pistol medic is the best thing ever, I do better than with m1 carbine where I am constantly out of ammo (for Americans) also #gewher43sniper

[@robkewley]

Flamethrower can be great when attacking in offensive

[@jackhamey659]

colt 45 does more dammage than the carbine how are all pistols ranked the same major cop out

[@Sunfade38]

I'm nearing 1000 hours on HLL, if I had to make a tier list, and put it in order, it would go like this: S tier: Kar98k, M1 Garand, STG-44, SVT-40, Gewehr 43, Thompson SMG. A tier: MP40, PPSH-41, Hand Grenades, Mosin Nagant M91/30, MG42. B tier: FG42(unscoped), MG34, Lee Enfield No1 Mk3, Mosin Nagant m38, Kar98k (scoped). C tier: FG42 (scoped), Lee Enfield No4 Mk1, BAR, M3 Grease gun, Sten. D tier: Shotgun, M1 Carbine, Browning 1919, Bren, Lewis, Springfield 1903. E tier: Molotov Cocktails, DP28, Mosin Nagant M91, flamethrower F tier: Sidearms

[@commandercrane1945]

You think the Kar98 is the best weapon? That’s an extreme outlier.

[@Sunfade38]

​@@commandercrane1945 Pure bias on my end. Likely my most used weapon.

[@Souljacker7]

Shotgun is great. The range in which you can headshot is pretty good

[@blem5376]

Completely disagree, been better than bar, Lee Enfield being best bolt action and garand is worst semi auto, some American Bais here

[@blem5376]

All snipers have different zooms American sniper is worst with 2x zoom but your Bais is too high to say that

[@mrextremophile]

Flamethrower was such a grind (for me, as I’m bad) to unlock, but then so bad 😢

[@nighteripper4354]

It’s more bragging rights and a bit of trolling than anything else, although I have racked up 30 + kills and multiple Garry takedowns with it, it’s more for a bit of fun

[@pete_5225]

MP40 is by far THE SMG of the game. So much superior to the rest of them.

[@BlueOrion-dc9yk]

The M1911 is actually pretty usable, youd notice it mostly in sniper class

[@wohl3r]

I get the flamethrower is.mainly used for fun, but I always use it to push and destroy garrisons. Yes, it destroys garrisons just like a antitank and thats why Id put it E

[@commandercrane1945]

It's actually the best weapon for hunting down garrisons in the backline, because you can destroy them instantly. The problem is getting there though.

[@jacksonshaw5235]

craziest list ive ever seen tbh

[@jjjonathan8774]

Good Tier List! I would only switch the G43 and the M1 Garand. I prefer the sights, and it has more ammo, and no ping which shows the enemy that I‘m out of ammo

[@Lidrien]

Loved this Learned a lot actually. Basically every “did you know” I did not know

[@alexvisser5913]

M1 carbine is absolutely trash BAR absolutely overrated since u run dry to quick

[@itsmrbigsmoke862]

Some of the item placements on this list are criminal. Like the garand being higher than the gewehr and the grease gun being anywhere higher than f tier

[@loganseriani3910]

As soon as he put the mp-40 in C tier this video lost credibility for me.

[@Moralez1016]

I feel like you have 80h of game experience max after watching this video. Can't agree with that mostly. LeeEnfield is actually amazing rifhle after changes. SMLE is best bolt action weapon without scope. Vikers is also amazing. Pure sniper rifle, it hits almost same place at +400m distances. MG34 is also good MG. Should be higher. Shotgun is actually killer at short distances, same like M1CARABINE. Just different is, shotgun gives way more fun, than carabine. This 2" loosing its dmg after 80m. You need mostly hit 3 times to kill enemy. And you cant burst like SMGs. Sniper Kar is B weapon. Amazing in use at distance. Great dmg. Main Kar also tbh. BAR sucks. I know that is good weapon when you dont sprey. But it is kinda MG, right? Spreying with BAR just don't work xD. And hey... It should have M1 garand damage minimum. It don't have it. This gun have no advantages. Team 17 must give it tripod and buff dmg. My opinion 🤷 Bren - higher, FG42 is C weapon. Even B i could say. I naver had problems with using it. Gun also have amazing scope. So clean, and easy in use. Grees Gun M3, higher. Mosin higher, Sten MKV - also good weapon. Even better then USA Thompson (in game).

[@commandercrane1945]

@@Moralez1016 2700+ hours Everything in the middle is debatable, but most people will agree with the top and bottom choices.

[@ibelieveyourlies1984]

If you get good at hipfiring sniper riffles they are S class for sure.

[@ericreinking2620]

This is such a bad list lol- M1 above the MP40 which is obvious S tier

[@trollheim99]

so we’ve all hit the exact same shot with the sten gun i stg i hit that clip a week ago

[@Roiniki]

MG42 my beloved, it needs a tier above S

[@Gage-yu9ch]

Respect for putting the M1 Garand in S-tier. It's by far the most versatile weapon in the game. I usually try to join the American side just to use it.

[@Robert53area]

The m1 carbine out classing the shotgun? You take that back, i am getting single shot kills with the shotgun at 200 meters you cant do that with the carbine. There is absolutely a reason to use the mg34 over the 42. The 42 is great for medium range suppression and urban fights. But the 34 has a far better rounds on target and recoil.

[@BlueOrion-dc9yk]

200 meters is a reach it can do headshots kills till about 150 if you get a good spread

[@jamesbennett5189]

Probably unpopular BUT SVT40 and the .303 british are my favorites.

[@commandercrane1945]

@@jamesbennett5189 I have some hit registration or perhaps problems with the sights for the SVT, but otherwise it is good. Seems harder to get long range shots than the m1 garand or gewehr.

[@skydestroyer219]

give my boy kar98K S tier, why?best sight, best range, best damage, best accuracy and yes maybe it isn't best at close range but biggest part of pvp is ong range where kar98k does its best

[@matro2]

It may not have the highest ROF or clip count, but when you hit, you kill.

[@_THUMPR_]

MP40 in C tier, OK well you had good intentions lol

[@swearnetgaming7166]

You forgot the 50 cal on the allied halftrack

[@loganmorton9304]

The BAR is a browning. Browning automatic rifle.

[@SABER-GAS]

not bad

[@ezekielmartin4364]

Great video! Thanks for the insight and gameplay.

[@commandercrane1945]

Thank you.

[@Mexican00b]

the trench gun - e tier thats it, he needs to git gud

[@LiterallyPluto]

Flamethrower is S tier becuase of the screams

[@Joseph-mw2rl]

Imagine being in 1940s and you see your country's service rifle being F tier😞

[@commandercrane1945]

Lmao. I have seen that gun perform well in other games though.

[@carbIce69]

Grease gun is S tier

[@commandercrane1945]

I think that opinion is an outlier lol, but I respect it.

[@timmarkowicz779]

I agree! That weapon is super accurate and controllable.

[@carbIce69]

@@commandercrane1945 you see a pissed of Mendez with a radio on his back and grease gun in his hands; you better watch out!

[@boone4531]

B tier at least

[@useruser6240]

Legendary kar98 D? Okay goodbye!

[@LisaWoods-x8i]

White Brenda Hall Michelle Young Helen

[@streifffaro6227]

M1 Carbine over Mp40 ????

[@nicojio6895]

Thompson under the m1 carbine… 😅

[@boone4531]

All smgs are pretty much b tier or higher for me

[@JerseyRails104]

I always fuck shit up with the Bren

[@JarkMohnson]

The Mark III with the double clip and those beautiful open iron sights is an A tier as far as bolt action goes. Best bolt action in the game for me perosnally. And disagree with the FG42 sniper role not being good for close range. Thing can squad wipe at close range and is easily an S tier at medium to close rnage in the right hands. Its interesting to see peoples differening opinions on the gun ranks though!

[@okafisher9490]

Great idea for a tier list. Can you do another tier list for best loadouts per role? Thanks.

[@commandercrane1945]

I was actually thinking about making a tier list for ranking every class. I’ll think about that too.

[@okafisher9490]

@@commandercrane1945 thanks mate!! Keep up the good work🫡

[@Nordy941]

MG 34 is better in most situations imo

[@bonkiozz]

the Mosin is so satisfying to use

[@up_dogF1]

that transition at 2:56

[@PedroRodrigues-uo2dp]

Shovel simply the best. 👌👌

[@Robp-j1b]

STG is top of my list

[@Ahartic]

MP40 is A lowest 🤣🤦🏼‍♂️

[@johnbooth6916]

Holy fuck finally one of these lists I 100% agree with. M1 garand is king.

[@commandercrane1945]

Glad ya like it. Seems to get mixed feelings which makes sense xD

[@johnbooth6916]

When those mixed feelings folks have 2,000+ hours worth of reps on that game I’ll listen

[@generalmeyer315]

What about the shovel!!!

[@ryleyleseberg7422]

2 mins in and I"m fuming

[@stevadelija]

I prefer the mg34 over the 42

[@nicke5325]

The M1919 is definitely A tier. It makes up for all the things the MG42 lacks (accuracy and controllability).

[@kamata93]

MG-34 slow rate of fire 😮 PS: Mosin Nagant fast rate of fire….Glad to see realism in this game.