Hell Let Loose vs Post Scriptum [2020] | Direct Comparison

Direct visual and gameplay comparison of Hell Let Loose and Post Scriptum.
Both titles are played on the PC at the highest graphic settings, anti-aliasing set to recommended values and motion blur options disabled.
#HellLetLoose #PostScriptum #Comparison

[@celeroon89]

Hell let loose: damn this is a serious game Post Scriptum: PTSD kicks in directly

[@Zaefnyr]

seriously though, that game legit makes me stressed and i hate it lol

[@pilum3705]

Zaefnyr That’s why I play Logistics most of the time. You can either operate behind the front lines, build stuff and chat with you squadmates or, if you want more action at the moment, sneak around behind enemy lines and sabotage the enemy (I have even heard some people call the Logistics section the Special Forces).

[@Zaefnyr]

@@pilum3705 nah i wanna shoot stuff but tactical games just aren't for me man

[@sir313jonsson]

@@pilum3705 or you can play AT operate behind enemy lines in search for MVP's and armor and when you encounter players they'll often hesitate because you're so far behind enemy lines and they never expect it

[@DevoGaming93]

@@Zaefnyr Arma 3 still offers a good blend of tactical and plenty of shooting. In 2020.

[@Johnny-ue6hg]

After playing Hell Let Loose: "This is a great tactical shooter" After playing Post Scriptum: takes drag of cigarette "I've seen things no man ever should".

[@yan3066]

lol xD

[@supercooled]

Too bad it’s dead. No one was playing when I join.

[@Johnny-ue6hg]

@@supercooled In germany its very active

[@Nick930]

@@supercooled Been playing both games all week. They're both plenty active.

[@kingcole55]

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion?

[@avec-zam7301]

IMAGINE..... Both studio's work togetter to the perfect Post Let loose or a Hell Scriptum.....

[@Khabaal87]

IMAGINE... both games having destructible environments... like some way less "realistic" shooters managed to do...

[@codemy666]

@Tyler Hinson The only thing it has that's worth mentioning

[@CalebEade]

@Tyler Hinson BFV has a way bigger dev team and company backing them up.

[@Southernswag8283]

I have ALWAYS said this. I totally agree. If they put there minds and ideas together, we could see something like no other game has seen before🤟🏼

[@CalebEade]

@@Southernswag8283 I mean just look at the people starting games in Arma we can see what these things can turn into.

[@MrPooBTW]

alright, I've made my decision. I'm gonna play Heroes & Generals

[@ztrange1236]

Lol, broke gang!

[@MrSchuits]

Funny, cause I've been playing H&G daily...being a cheap bloke. Now I wanna get PS :_(

[@Blinkshinati]

Yeeeeeep

[@vincezockt127]

Ah a broke friend wlcome

[@lancervance8294]

Late response...but I went from playing H&G religiously once a day, to Post Scriptum in 2018. Glad I made the switch.

[@Alduizard]

Both are far better WWII games than Battlefield V, thats all that matters.

[@ninjalord1951]

Ja, du hast Recht

[@vukhuathuy2866]

low bar to past

[@Alduizard]

Vu Khuat Huy Very low

[@VV-nw3lz]

I have around 137 hours in Bf V and after 5 min in a Post Scriptum match I knew which one I would enjoy more.

[@Alduizard]

Josh Cook They are hell bent on destroying whatever few things were good about that game. DICE is incompetent.

[@cunneyes]

The fact that these two games even exist is a miracle to me as a WW2 game-fan. I hope the community continues to support these titles.

[@johnnieireland2057]

yeah

[@Dragoon_.]

Theres two more coming out as well. Enlisted which comes from the devs if War Thunder, and Battalion 1944. Both look visually pleasing but are both still pre-alpha

[@cunneyes]

@@Dragoon_. Days of War is coming out of Alpha but it's trash. Battalion 1944 was looking fairly solid most recently. I was invited to Enlisted. Played for one night and it felt sluggish. I hope it improves. I think it's trying to claim some of the Heroes n' Generals crowd, it has that feel to it.

[@superandreanintendo]

Yeah. 5-8 years ago all you would have was to hope for a ww2 battlefield or rely on free to plays like war thunder and shitty heroes and generals

[@Dat_Zupra_Dude]

You also have another WW2 game called Enlisted. It’s amazing how much support there is for WW2 games now. I knew Battlefield V was going to be a disaster soon as it was revealed, and I had nothing to fill that empty hole in my heart for that WW2 realistic gameplay till I saw Hell Let Loose and Post Scriptum. I’m glad there are developers who actually care and listen to their fan base. This is what every developer should practice in order to succeed and make actual profit. You make a game with love and attention to detail and listen to your fan’s criticism and reflect on what changes need to be made to improve the game.

[@DrRynsta]

Red Orchestra 2 will always hold a special place in my heart, but Post Scriptum is an honourable successor to the genre.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

Ryan indeed

[@buckplug2423]

Have you tried out Darkest Hour, a mod for Red Orchestra: Ostfront?

[@zj9189]

@@buckplug2423 people still play it? I used to play all the time years ago, had no idea it was still around

[@aaronhaley6476]

Loved RO2 but PS blows it away in every way imo.

[@buckplug2423]

@@zj9189 Yep. 1-2 servers online.

[@darkstock5103]

Hell let loose: Holy s**t this is realistic Post scriptum: Paranoia 100

[@petterderter6354]

Don’t say the Lords name in vein

[@darkstock5103]

@@petterderter6354 ?

[@Yeahimman32]

@@petterderter6354 you made no sense

[@gungriffen]

I describe them to friends as, Post Scriptum is Arma Light. Hell let Loose is Hardcore Battlefield.

[@jg2232]

thats... a pretty good comparision actually

[@LordCommissarDrac]

Post Scriptum is a much more hardcore experience than Arma. Not to mention unlike Arma, it doesn't take hours of bugfilled mess to get a multiplayer scenario to work. Shooting in Arma is also much easier, no suppression effect and recoil that's pretty low even on full auto means you can strike targets at far distances with no problem once you've zero'd in the distance. I've let my Arma 3 experience get replaced with Squad and Post Scriptum, they're just better games imo.

[@RobZombii]

That’s really a good comparison bruh.

[@Kosmomayn]

@@LordCommissarDrac Hence Arma light(?)

[@MorrisseyMuse]

@@LordCommissarDrac Arma is more like a tactical RTS than a shooter, Post Scriptum will NEVER be that hard-core lol

[@Ditch901]

Post Scriptums shooting mechanics and sound design is pure art.

[@notjasonlee]

seriously, hell let loose doesn't even come close.

[@mr.numbers5968]

Jesus Christ, the stuka is terrifying

[@goldenhide]

The high-velocity rounds flying overhead or ricocheting sound amazing. As do mortar/arty barrages.

[@gattosquad2241]

@@notjasonlee It was 100x better for me, PS i played for 2 weeks and felt only ever had one decent gunfight.

[@mr_confuse]

@@gattosquad2241 The sound design is way better for PS, but i dont know which onbe to buy because i like realism but dont know if i can get the hang of the game lol

[@radoslavradoslavov1964]

Imagine post scriptum with hell let loose's player numbers damn...

[@Tal469]

there is a reason why HLL has a bigger player base its just a more appealing game thats constantly updating and getting better while ps is dying if not basically dead already

[@radoslavradoslavov1964]

@@Tal469 just my personal opinion :)

[@dot6441]

@@Tal469 not dead at all. HLL is more popular because even a brain dead person can play it , you just run around, shoot things and repeat. In PS you have to actually use your brain and mic. Move around more carefully and need to plan your approaches to have fun. HLL just feels like a cheaper PS to me

[@Tal469]

@@dot6441 you just described all games in that catagory including ps of course you can just run around and get a kill or 2(most of the times none) die and repeat but using your "brain" and mic while planimg your movment and executing it carefully will lead to better results This type of mind set of yours and quite a bit of playes who play this genre of games is what drives away newer and more casual players which cause games like ps to slowly die or remain with a dedicated small player base

[@Tal469]

@@dot6441 and a 24h peak of less then a 1k is pretty dead for a game thats supposed to be a large scale ww2 simulator

[@96redprelude]

He needs to do this review again. HLL has gone through MANY updates. It sounds totally different now and looks a lot different too.

[@melviness4769]

in a good way or what?

[@Rondog.]

@@melviness4769 Definitely in a good way. Much more polished now.

[@OpDab]

Still post scriptum

[@96redprelude]

@@OpDab leemow

[@Coreymj91]

So has post scriptum i recently played both and post still kills it

[@Mister.Weatherbee]

Would also like to add that Post Scriptum seems to be intent on showing the less well known theatres of WWII. Like the battle of France in 1940.

[@azore1184]

Weatherbee LIKE BFV 🤣🤣

[@justarandomguy37]

Do you also see the Dutch Maps as a less well known theater?

[@elitegamer8351]

did u see lady soldiers?

[@BlitzFromBehind]

@@justarandomguy37 Operation Market Garden is unknown for too many. Everyone just associates 1944 Europe with the landings and the Army's push to Germany.

[@justarandomguy37]

@@BlitzFromBehind thanks i didn't know that.

[@NATESUCKSATGAMING]

This video is probably meant to help decide which one a person will like better. But the differences between them make me just want both. Hell let loose looks like the easier one to just have fun in. Post scriptum is the more lean forward in your seat and clench your booty game.

[@TheGreatThicc]

You can still have fun with lean in your seat games. I recall countless times me and my two close friends would absolutely meme around in Red Orchestra 2 while still being effective team members

[@glenchen5723]

You can have lots of fun in PS if you find the right guys to play with. You start acting like a bunch of idiots getting drunk off of Fanta in the canteens.

[@celeroon89]

"Lean fortward in your seat and clench your booty game"? Nah man, your playing it wrong. It's more like, lean forward in your seat and clench your whole body because ptsd kicked in and you are stressing out AF game :)

[@homfri111]

PS is for slow(ish) gaming, HLL you can kinda just jump into it and go and not feel too too bad about not communicating and stuff. PS is squad/project reality while HLL is 3/4 squad/PR 1/4 battlefield 2

[@OrangeJews1138]

In that case it's probably not smart to start the video with petty whining about Garand production labels or whatever

[@michaelgarcia3680]

I have been playing both quite a bit. I really enjoy them both immensely. Someone who loves history and WW2 will love both. The level of detail in PS is incredible, and sound is amazing. I lean towards HLL more so because of the level of teamwork I experience regularly although its easier. Its more streamlined to get people organized and on obj and into fun combat. In PS the options are plenty but with the 40 vs 40...... you have nobody to fight for meters....... in HLL I get into very diverse combat. I own both and still play both.........filling my red orchestra 2 void lol

[@ryan0150]

Dude some of the desperate defense moments where you’re barely holding them off is next level.

[@borgyboo]

This guys actually rating the writing on the back of a gun

[@Hedmanification]

He didnt rate it, he only compared the differences between the two. But the fact that the difference is notable is another matter.

[@ry4nmaster]

It's these little things that might affect the decision to buy

[@jackback790]

Just saying , if the one I have in real life didn’t have those markings I would be pretty upset hahahaha

[@zapdoshoes]

A whole entire comparison video covering multiple aspects in a fair way and you’re stuck on this !? 🤨😂😂 he’s not rating the writing lol he’s showing you the difference of both games and how much detail the gun models had.

[@azathoth8838]

Both games are labeled as Authentic and Historical experiences and something like incorrect writing on a back of a rifle is something someone would consider to be immersion breaking, unauthentic, and unhistorical

[@jeri_v2578]

The Post Scriptum Devs have also said on their discord that ALL the maps will be getting an overhaul when it comes to building interiors, so the emptiness is only temporary :)

[@reganwatt9110]

They've been saying that a while...

[@Norbliin]

​@@reganwatt9110 You know it's time consuming. To enter each building and set this all kinds of furniture

[@arturoroldan4839]

@@Norbliin Not really. Most buildings are copypaste, so you have only to edit the interior of one and change the other buildings. Easy.

[@On_The_Piss]

Der Kaiser Wilhelm II oh are you one of the developers? Besides I’d rather have better sounds than chairs inside buildings. HLL May have couches but it also has terrible SFX

[@29blazehead]

@@On_The_Piss If its similar to like how cod mapping was, you could put buildings into 'prefabs' which became a separate file and any map could use what was in that prefab. You could edit the prefab, and wherever the prefab was on another map, it would change too since it references same file. If a building is unique and its not a prefab, then they have to individually edit of course. All in all, it wouldnt take a huge amount of resources, but I guess they do not have a dedicated mapper or something, or he is busy with other things. It's sort of like that thing where its functional, but to take a couple hours to do it for every map seems like low on the priority list.

[@GrumpyGremlin.]

_* Starting the game *_ *Select difficulty level:* *→* War, war never changes. -(Hell Let Loose)- *→* Why are we here? Just to suffer? -(Post Scriptum)-

[@vincezockt127]

Post scriptum

[@a.k8185]

*memes*

[@joemariejames4757]

How'd you put dash on a word??

[@GrumpyGremlin.]

@@joemariejames4757 * Before and after the word to make bold: *Test* _ Before and after to make this thing I cant remember _Test_ - Before and after the word to make strike: -Test- You can also use them on full sentences to certain limit, long comments may need multiple times doing them.

[@joemariejames4757]

@@GrumpyGremlin. right -thank you-

[@roguewookiee7534]

3:16 God that shot was gorgeous

[@razbiton173]

you should make this video again, HLL has seriously improved last week

[@EttoreB93]

Post Scriptum: patient man's shooter Hell let Loose: the band of brothers game we all wanted I used to not like PS but I see they're going the right way, and detail is insane!

[@codwawgamerzz]

ah man, its funny you say that. I think that Post Scriptum is the band of brothers game we all wanted. Theres often way more player interaction in Post Scriptum, which leads to true comradery, shithousery and just a great place to make friends and watch those friends die. Your friends desperately screaming for a medic when downed, whilst you are calming them down, and laying down supressive fire so that the medic can get them up and healed. you honestly get the most awesome player interactions. Which i dont think i've ever seen in any other game.

[@itorca]

I just want another brothers in arms

[@codwawgamerzz]

@@itorca same dude. Can't wait for it to come out, because if you didn't know, it's been in development since 2017. It's rumoured to come out in 2021, but I guess we'll just have to wait for e3 2020.

[@itorca]

@@codwawgamerzz word is Baker is gonna die since red is paralyzed and leggets traumatic death at hill 113. I hope not

[@henrifortier8621]

HLL is really the band of brothers game we all wanted hands down.

[@CrossriderBankai23]

Post Scriptum is 100/10 But Hell Let Loose is better than BF5

[@arturoroldan4839]

Graphics and atention to detail is shit in comparison to HLL, its not even a fair comparison. The houses look like the generic ones of Arma 3.

[@truereaper4572]

@@arturoroldan4839 Did you even watch the video?

[@arturoroldan4839]

@@truereaper4572 Yes.

[@kokadosh8763]

Dude, I think alot of WW2 games are better than BF5 at this point. Tho I'm not implying that HLL is bad; I bought it and I'm enjoying the game.

[@arturoroldan4839]

@@kokadosh8763 Do you even consider BF1 WW1 and BFV WW2.

[@JonNo86]

Watching this 18 months later, it's absolutely unreal to see how far HLL has come. Pretty much all the negatives from this video for HLL have been addressed and reworked. New weapon sway, redone explosions, utility trucks, and more and more details with every update. Even looking forward to the next update with the Eastern Front and Soviet faction. What's happened to PS since this video? Absolutely nothing...it's pretty much a dead game.

[@96redprelude]

Agreed 100%. He should really do an updated side by side review. HLL is nothing like what is shown in this video.

[@pandan5837]

is HLL still worth to buy?

[@JonNo86]

@@pandan5837 Absolutely! As a matter of fact it just came out of early access and had it's official release last week. They just added the Soviet Faction and there's 2 new Eastern Front maps.

[@pandan5837]

@@JonNo86 nice, time to get out Enlisted and Rising Storm 2

[@okbro1543]

@@pandan5837 hell yea

[@jamescallahan7000]

I love that I live in a time that a gamer like me with an ultra-specific taste in games (WW2 hardcore tactical first person shooters) can pick and choose amongst top tier games like Hell Let Loose. I feel wealthy being able to fret over these details

[@JdCR_927]

HLL reminds me a lot about Rising storm 2 because it's not an arcade game and it's not a fully realistic game, so it kinda sits in that middle ground.

[@albanianantivirus6849]

@Sol Yens explain

[@Cjdididuahnwjric]

@Sol Yens You make claims and provide no actual argument. You call things unrealistic and don't explain at all. Shut up until you have something useful to contribute instead of your personal agenda, boy.

[@Cjdididuahnwjric]

@Sol Yens Someone did ask you to explain and that's what you wrote. Clarification was already given by you, and it clarified nothing.

[@jungletrouble8296]

Sol Yens the guys literally asked "explain". So what you should've done is: This and this is unrealistic, because soldiers in real-life experience this and that.

[@Cjdididuahnwjric]

@Sol Yens when you explain your position, you give actual reasons and evidence on why your position is right. All I hear out of you kid was opinion. Just admit your mistake jackwagon

[@case3270]

I bought post scriptum thinking “Oh pff... I can play this!” It’s fun and all but I’m not that smart so the learning curve is like trying to climb a mountain with a shovel

[@wwerocks335]

Case Sheep I have over 100 hours been playing the game in its darkest days sub 200 players a day. Just keep at it. Listen you’re sqaud leader and pick the riflemen role before you become any thing special. Keep at it bro this game is special

[@thecommoncold7355]

just keep going guy. you'll get the hang of it eventually

[@Muckylittleme]

Get in a decent friendly squad to show you the ropes and watch your back or at least stick with squads if solo and help out.

[@proko8gaming671]

I play almost every night usually as a SL. and am pretty good at teaching, HMU on steam if you want to be learned lol. Same name without "gaming"

[@1111Tactical]

Try Squad, it's basically this game but Modern, as in Post Scriptum started as a mod for Squad and its mod team is now a sister company. The fact everyone gets at least an assault rifle and many more kits get magnified scopes flattens the learning curve a little bit.

[@RobZombii]

Honestly it’s just down to personal preference. I WILL say that PS has the 1-up in most of the comparable categories... except for actual amounts of combat. That, to me, goes to HLL. You get in way more firefights in HLL, it’s easier to get into and the battles are outright more vicious because of it. HLL: Hardcore Battlefield PS: PTSD simulator

[@DeosPraetorian]

I'm excited to see how they did Utah Beach in PS

[@raptorz139]

HLL is a realistic, hardcore battlefield without a annoying community and seriousness, as well as control chaos, it’s very different from battlefield but comparing it to battlefield isn’t a long shot

[@mbjedigorilla3021]

Sometimes I just find myself watching most of a game in Post Scriptum as a spectator just watching the battle play out. Its phenomenal.

[@pepperpeppington6267]

Hell Let Loose will be getting an animation overhaul (which will add free look) and new sound engine in the near future. Hell Let Loose has the potential to be a great game in the coming year. I enjoy both games

[@pepperpeppington6267]

@@On_The_Piss Guess because the current sound engine and animations are just placeholders until finished it

[@imperialspence5106]

Do you know if they plan on adding any more factions/theaters in the future?

[@caif4]

@@imperialspence5106 dont quote me on it but I believe they said they're are interested in doing other theaters later. One of the devs really likes the pacific theater and tbh it's that reason I even got into the game. Since I also love the pacific theater.

[@shadowtornado7778]

@@caif4 The eastern front and pacific was on their kickstarter and the devs seem to love the pacific so I think after more fixes they'll start working on new factions and theaters

[@xikungao2376]

@Sol Yens a lot of people seem to think that the insane sway of your gun during full auto fire in games like Squad, PS, Insurgency is actually realistic. My personal experience tells me that unless you are holding the gun incorrectly, your gun should not bounce that wildly like these games. Not saying there is no recoil, but the sway honestly feels very exaggerated in a lot of these games.

[@MaxskiSynths]

Hell Let Loose is one of those games that looks amazing and shit at the same time

[@flxdrv5020]

the tree looks pretty from far away

[@Mr_Fancypants]

@@flxdrv5020 kinda like your face

[@flxdrv5020]

@@Mr_Fancypants yo dude don't talk like that of OSS 117

[@Mr_Fancypants]

@@flxdrv5020 ok.

[@nicholasmartins4316]

Post Scriptum too.

[@GODSPEEDseven]

Thank you for your time in making this video.. there are a few things though I really disagree with. I just want to clarify, I am not saying either game is better than another.. just things I would like to point out that are misconceptions. Post Scriptums way of making your gun swing when you move it... that is very fake and reflects a lack of understanding in firearms use. Anyone who has held a firearm/replica.. when you are shouldered and you correct or move your point of aim, your weapon doesn't pivot on itself.. meaning the front sight won't sway sideways faster or slower to match the rear sight. Your arm/elbow and and torso will become the pivot point to actually keep your aim centered. Anyone can actually test this for themselves, take any long object (if you don't have a firearm or replica) and put it tightly to your shoulder and swing yourself around.. notice how the front doesn't feel like it's either swinging faster or slower? Another really flawed misconception about firearms; the way they handle in Post Scriptum.. specifically in fully automatic firing modes.. make the game feel and look as if you've just given a massively recoiling fully automatic battle rifle in automatic firing mode to a person who has never handled a firearm. The misconception that recoil is ALWAYS felt as an upwards motion is staggeringly false especially given you are playing the role of a soldier who has gone through training with the used firearms. It just doesn't ALWAYS make sense. There are cases where it does make a little bit more sense, like if you were to hip fire a BAR you would probably have alot of trouble staying on target. As an example of how inaccurate automatic fire is in Post Scriptum... just go on youtube and look up videos of a Thompson M1A1 being fired in fully automatic... that weapon was extremely heavy for it's "classification" and is relatively easy to control. Again... you are playing the role of a soldier who is relatively young and fit and who was trained with the firearm being used. This should NOT be a simulation of your grandma (who, I take it, might have never touched a firearm) taking her first full auto antics. I really believe they exaggerate the concepts of recoil to give the firearms a "meaty" feel. Please keep in mind that many firearms used in WWII we're Steel and Wood (and overbuilt).. they we're so heavy compared to modern firearms that recoil was way less of an issue. As an example of how some games will portray a PPSH and give it immense muzzle rise... really fake stuff. I won't even go on about the mention of the Thompsons accuracy. It's a pistol caliber smg made for room clearing and really close urban engagements.. should NOT be extremely accurate. Anyways, sorry if I sound like I am bashing your video.. I am not. I enjoyed it!

[@jasonblum7499]

We owned a range for many years, so I shot pretty much every day of my life after the age of 3, up until we sold it and moved, many years later. I would agree.

[@Centurion101B3C]

Hm, anyone who has trained marksmen and machinegun teams in actual field conditions (as opposed to range-shooting practice as discussed in your post) will know that the combat-overcompensation when shifting targets is a real and serious thing (much as depicted in PS, I might add.). Also, it is an instinctive thing that after having fired and shifting aim, a gunner automatically widens and checks his/her view, often leading the weapon-aim with it.

[@matthewellis9394]

@@Centurion101B3C ummmm naw lol first off no real machine gunner in a machine gun squad keeps the gun in their shoulder and sighted in while repositioning the crew served weapon to even experience this and for the smaller weapons like an M1 grand the OP is correct you don’t see the front or rear sight moving ahead or behind the other like PS has it done. It’s a cool addition to add to a game to ensure you can’t whip around no scoping etc but it’s not realistic

[@georgewashington132]

One thing I have to say is about the Thompson, and yes I do agree the recoil is a little bit over the top, I fired the M1A1 many times and I can assure you that it doesn't move at all really, but what I will say is that 45 ACP is more accurate than you think, you could hit targets with automatic bursts at up to 200 yards reliably.

[@GODSPEEDseven]

@@georgewashington132 Yeah, the same misconception as shotguns get in video games.

[@returnofbeaux]

This is an excellent presentation. I'm very pleased with your technical detail on the texture/model design and the ballistic system. You have stoked my already brooding interest in Post Scriptum, but your exposition of incisive journalism has also enhanced my interest in your work here. That enforced depth-of-field workaround was a bit of a pity.

[@ashraarrafi5810]

3:11 The sun fire a light beam. Remember me to death star.

[@Nick930]

reminds me of starkiller base when it blows up all the planets

[@definitelynotadam]

Both games are a good options if you want to scratch your WW2 itch and if you found Battlefield V a disappointing mess.

[@ninjalord1951]

bfv is very funny and a great game to spend time alone or with friends, but it is not realistic or immersive, it does not compare with HELL or PS

[@scottland8698]

Yeah, I tried to stick it out with BFV, but after the TTK changes and glitch’s and bugs that have been there since launch I just gave up on and bought modern warfare when it went on sale

[@yourarseismine1016]

@@ninjalord1951 It doesn't replicate ww2 whatsoever, just trash.

[@ninjalord1951]

@@yourarseismine1016 I never said that, I just say it's funny, what is true, so stop saying bullshits pls

[@yourarseismine1016]

@@ninjalord1951 What is say is true aswell it isn't bullshit you twat, you have a strange way of calling trash funny but whatever, not my problem.

[@aaaaaa-nl9ut]

Who is here after hearing that battlefield 5 died?

[@saiyajinog7424]

yup, looking for a "new", better, more authentic WW2 experience ;)

[@aaaaaa-nl9ut]

@@saiyajinog7424 Pretty sure Enlisted is the one to go, but it's not released yet

[@saiyajinog7424]

@@aaaaaa-nl9ut It does look promising as well. We'll se how it turns out.

[@evill01]

@@Borealislights battlefield v died from the trailer

[@chickenmanman1015]

thats funny cause i always get full games

[@arsenic3714]

This video was 2 years ago and I’ve been playing hell let loose and it’s definitely improved.

[@5net_5net]

I have seen more old men in PS than HLL ...personally, I feel PS age average is 30 yo ... HLL is around 17.

[@Jan_372]

On the German public servers there are like 50% saxons XD

[@SteelBollocks]

as a 30+ yo gamer. Yeah. we all got tired of "traditional shooter mechanics" a decade ago.

[@framerate3003]

As a 17 year old, ps is way better for me :D Edit: on a side note, I find way more children playing post scriptum after playing both. Post scriptum's playerbase feels more like 16-25 year olds and the older players tend to have played the game since a long time ago. Damn, this game really is progressing like the war innit?

[@codwawgamerzz]

@@framerate3003 thats the funny thing. The game is definitely being invaded by a younger audience, but its always the older and more experienced Post Scriptum players who take up the squad leader role, which makes for an even more authentic experience. The veterans who lead and give advice, and the young infrantry men who follow the orders blindly, waiting for their chance to become a hero.

[@henrifortier8621]

wtf 17 lool you're drunk

[@DesmoLocke]

Fantastic comparison! Well done. And thanks for playing on The Playground Post Scriptum server!

[@garrettmoore25]

That moment and post scriptum when your PTSD kicks in when I tank shell literally flies right in front of your face and you think if this is anything what Grandpa went through may God have mercy on his soul

[@1989johno]

4:33 sprint while prone... I wanna see this done!

[@zapdoshoes]

You basically just crawl really fast haha

[@SayakMajumder]

2:04, is Hell let Loose's screenshot correct/ appropriate? Sound: Post Scriptum is better

[@Nick930]

I wondered the same thing. With that clip i went into the settings multiple times and kept trying to reset the textures.. but that's just what it looks like at the highest settings. Tree textures just look like garbage now.. that.. or the settings menu is completely broken

[@spudnic5849]

@@Nick930 I think your graphics are bugged. Mine looks nothing like that lol!

[@imadewerlianta1365]

have both.. but Post Scriptum all the way..

[@themightychickadee4231]

I Made Werlianta had HLL, returned it and bought Post Scriptum

[@karlhans6678]

Why is PS better?

[@imadewerlianta1365]

@@karlhans6678 just play it for yourself.. you'll get it

[@karlhans6678]

@@imadewerlianta1365 im asking cause i want to choose which one to buy.

[@DeuZerre]

@@karlhans6678 it's all in the experience. Want to feel like in a battlefield (not the game)? Play PS. Positioning and flanking is more important, firefights are more visceral, dying is a problem. Tznk warfare is more interesting. Wanto to always be in the thick of it with no downtime? Play hll. Communication is important in both for differenet reasons. In hll you can lose because some key roles are badly played (support/squad lead basically), in PS it's often easier to save the game with key actions.

[@denizsemiz7662]

Why all the Hell Let Loose footage from older versions? I mean lot change by that time.

[@indydenys]

I have recently bought the game and was thinking the same!

[@spookyseafood7682]

Well because the video was made a while ago

[@zombiextraction]

I was a bit torn between the two but then when I heard the sound comparison there was just no doubt that Post Scriptum nailed it

[@CaptainAwesome-mz6mt]

The sound design in Post Scriptum not only sounds realistic but meaty as well

[@GalacticAstroparticles]

12:30 - The Thompson in 'Hell Let Loose' sounds just like the Browning in 'Post Scriptum'.

[@Oversaints]

LOL

[@lukevangeuns798]

i actually thought the same haha

[@FireFly7961]

Thanks for the video! I'm writing paper to college about WW2 games and I needed some in-depth look (haven't played games myself due to ancient PC). Good stuff.

[@cheesyman1]

PS does have a year on HLH. I'm sure the latter will catch up in animations and lighting etc. HLH also currently has double the active player base so something is working right.

[@saamkapadia]

Shaun McMahon also PS had a huuuuge headstart cuz its based of squad. So the PS devs havent had to do nearly as much developing as the HLL team.

[@MrNomadic76]

I've been a long time ARMA player and Project Reality (BF2 Mod) player before that and one thing I will say about player base is that it isn't always more is better. Back in the early days of Arma2 you'd find yourself playing with a much more mature group, often RL military personnel and it was a very engaging experience. Then the DayZ mod hit and brought in a younger crowd to the main game, more akin to COD and the like and things went downhill, a lot more selfish, lone wolf players and I found myself having to stick to closed groups to get that original feel. In my opinion, Hell Let Loose is comparable to Arma2 post Dayz and Post Scriptum is closer to that original experience and as a result I'm happy to stick with the 'less is more' title in terms of playerbase. I think eventually Post Scriptum will expand as a game well beyond a release of Hell Let Loose 2. We'll have to see.

[@DeosPraetorian]

Hell let loose is also more casual

[@RhodokTribesman]

Battlefield 5 has a much higher player base than either, but that doesn't mean it's the best choice if you're looking for an authentic experience

[@cheesyman1]

@@RhodokTribesman Battlefield 5 wasn't included in this comparison.

[@foguhftyuhgiggg8178]

I'm just happy hes uploaded

[@Grobskiii]

Ease of play= hell let loose Realism= post scriptum Overall my opinion? Post scriptum

[@Grobskiii]

@European Awakening I do own the game with about 150 hours of playtime...

[@petroleum_u]

European Awakening Hell Let Loose is also far more publicized than Post Scriptum, bringing more casual players from BFV who may not expect such a shift. Post Scriptum gets plenty of 'game hard' discussions as well.

[@ludovikowan]

Easy to play? I play 20 match and i never kill anyone. I play a lot rising storm, but damn hell let loose is impossibile to play

[@Xiox321]

It'd be interesting to see a comparison of how they compare now. HLL has had quite a few updates and improved visuals since this was made.

[@maybecoffee7386]

Post Scriptum in my experience has great gameplay that will surely give PTSD to any player after hearing the Sound design

[@tigransafaryan6619]

Seems like Post scriptum is made by far more experienced and skilled team.

[@mungojones7261]

Yeah it's the same people that made squad

[@epiczechachi8328]

@@mungojones7261 really?! They made Squad?!

[@Khan--nr4lw]

No

[@revivedcorpseofrasputin4337]

Well it certainly helped that Post Scriptum was tied to Squad's development for a while.

[@acetech8642]

Why do ppl compare the games together when HLL has 100 players and Ps don't?

[@towarzyszbeagle6866]

The sound in PS is mind blowingly good.

[@borisgrishenko652]

the post scriptum armour overhaul has released, i'd be interested to see how that effects the next follow up video, also the recall point in post scriptum can also be put up with a squadlead and 2 squadmates as well as just the radioman

[@tobytoxd]

Nice comparison! Thank you very much!

[@warp65]

As an more mature ww2 sim player, I used to watch the intro to Panzer Elite many years ago and think, one day I might just be able to control one of those soldiers running across the moniter. The future is here, both games look great but I enjoy PS for the tactical component and the thrill of a well executed attack with your section.

[@alainsoral7489]

HLL is way more fun and immersive, graphically better and well optimized. Gameplay on HLL is pretty nice and it allows you to play many different battles. Mapping on HLL is pretty well done. Post-Scriptum is less optimized, more based for long and full strategic fights. Sounds are pretty amazing same for effects. Both games are good but I prefer playing on HLL.

[@noswad86]

what? HLL is not graphically better at all and is much less immersive, it has an arcade feel to it

[@noswad86]

post scriptum is better FACT

[@shealton_3919]

Post scriptun definatly gives you more memories like that time you bayonett charged a while squad and died gloriesly or that time your friend got blown up by a tank

[@jasojasoski6988]

The new update 7 in hll fixed the animations, textures, gun ballistics, sounds and more.

[@Westball]

You should revisit these in another 2 years when they are out of Early Access

[@narce160th]

Paul Westphal PS is already out of early access

[@ArcturusOTE]

@@narce160th So already stable release?

[@narce160th]

@@ArcturusOTE PS is pretty much a reskin of squad.. HLL is built from scratch PS was out of early access mid last year i think or earlier

[@brannonmeador1792]

Narce6 SOR - Australian ArmA ps is not a reskin, they use the same engine that’s it

[@JacobN-hg8tv]

So wait, lemme just get this right, hes comparing a fully-released game to an early-access one? Makes quite a bit of sense that PS was seen as better if HLL isnt done yet

[@BabaGamerGuy]

"Never Miss Nick's Videos...." I HAVE SPOKEN!

[@VV-nw3lz]

This is the way.

[@Thedrizzlestick495]

Haha the mandalorian just started watching it yesterday

[@BabaGamerGuy]

@@Thedrizzlestick495 it is an awesome show...

[@user-hl6tq7cw7e]

Could you please make a new comparison 2 years later? HLL changed quite significantly, especially VFX design.

[@Sevo-]

the animation update for HLL is going to be absolutely wild its about all I've been waiting for!

[@adorimable9690]

i love driving tanks in post scriptum, its so great having a commander yell directly in my ear that the tiger i see in front of us is shooting us

[@NZobservatory]

The fun we had playing Project Reality: WW2... I can't wait for the official release of that game.

[@Topmargintrades]

Glad i watched this before deciding ! well said ! Much Much needed to hear !

[@kanzy1]

Post Scriptum seems like a spiritual successor to one of my favorite WWII games. WWII online: Battleground Europe

[@davidreichler477]

PS is 100% inspired by ww2 online. That said, PS is the game many of us have wanted since ww2online released in 1999. Now, if only PS had an ETO mode (european theater of operations) Like ww2online.

[@David-hm4pe]

Amen

[@leonzakharyan9220]

Day of Defeat: Source - Grandfather; Post Scriptum - Father; Hell let Loose - Son.

[@tapesidea]

You Forgot Great Grandfather Red Orchestra!

[@2boredfortv]

@@tapesidea That's Great Grandpa Satan

[@tapesidea]

@@2boredfortv he made great game!

[@2boredfortv]

@@tapesidea That he did!

[@DerZombie7891]

Red Orchestra 2

[@luger700]

If you can get both, do it. Both games have incredibly passionate developers that deserve the support.

[@reposter6434]

Thank you for this video! Ii wasn't sure on which game to get and now I've got a general idea for which game I want to get

[@darlingimscared]

Try both game's first, despite not technically being more graphically detailed on paper you may find hell let loose looks better. After playing hell let loose for a few month's everyone said get post scriptum 'the better game'. Playing post I genuinely thought I had the graphics turned to low when I saw they were maxed I was shocked. It's audio in post is definitely far, far better but I'd describe the graphics in hell let loose as *curated* everything when you look at it closely may be worse than post but the impression the whole experience of the graphics, the scenic blends of house interiors and static haze of lighting albeit stylistic paints a heavier picture I enjoy alot more than post. Post Scrimptum looks clean, more detailed on inspection but that detail doesn't add up to a better looking game.

[@dragon0fly749]

Great description

[@struggles9564]

also, PS maps are waaaay bigger than hll so you know. they got to balance stuff or everyone playing it needs a 4000$ pc

[@Sunygamer05]

You wrote a great description there, just please, don't refer to it as post.

[@darlingimscared]

@@struggles9564 not sure what you mean by needing a 4k PC, I'm running it on 2080 super graphics and r3900x if that helps. I think it's a good point regards to scale post has very large maps

[@darlingimscared]

@@Sunygamer05 I appear to have unearthed a tragic postal accident from your childhood, for that I'm sorry Sir.

[@paytonelliott8613]

To me, the sound designs for both games are good on their own. Post Scriptum's sounds are more realistic and ear-rattling, while Hell Let Loose's sounds have more bass and compliment fast-paced action. I feel like these parallels are also present within other aspects of both of the games' designs. Post Scriptum is more hardcore and immersive, while Hell Let Loose is more about extended firefights and bombastic action. I love them both.

[@flappypancake85]

Did you guys know that Day of Defeat: Source still has 24 hour peaks of 1,000 players?

[@vosegus8836]

Dod s is a solid game.

[@flappypancake85]

Vosegus 88 true that

[@cfnovak1]

So many hours spent playing that game. I wish they could Make a Day of Defeat using the Global Offensive engine that counterstrike currently uses.. id be gaming on that every day.. simple and sweet

[@zacht9447]

The Ping is actually Extremely hard to hear IRL just an FYI like you can't hear them until they hit the ground the initial ejection is almost inaudible

[@rachaeldangelo1337]

I like how both games don't have hit markers whenever you land a shot on a enemy player. You just gotta hope your aim was good and true and that the next shot is gonna be the kill shot

[@arko612]

The bolt of the M1 in HLL doesn't even seem to move back far enough to rechamber a new round. On the other hand, the ejected casings from the M1 in PS seem to tumble in the air a bit too much. A minor but mildly infuriating observation.

[@N0I5EMAK3R]

I didn't notice that at first. The training map tends to have some strange bugs so I'd chalk that up to that, I never noticed that in-game.

[@alelokox88]

It looks like it's the animation key mirrored, so it's the same animation twice each time making it look weird. Probably a big tbh

[@joaqstarr]

shut up you have a doge pfp

[@arko612]

@@joaqstarr ah frick. Sorry my opinion is definitely trash. Edit: Not anymore

[@FSCB2013]

If this infuriates you, then life is going to be hard, champ.

[@chikenxlegend1833]

Games need faster, more violent explosions that make u feel like u've been slapped in the chest, not pretty fireballs, in general

[@Aqueox]

I actually really enjoy the blastcore mod for Arma 3 just for that. When artillery hits, it's a sudden BMMF and you see a plume of dirt just shoot out of the ground at lightspeed, then it dissipates. It's just a sudden HERE I AM kind of effect. Most games explosions look like they kind of "ramp up" in intensity.

[@chikenxlegend1833]

@@Aqueox Right, theyre cool but not shocking and scary, more hollywoodish

[@SigmundJaehn]

Would love to get an idea of the community for each game - numbers, friendliness, noob tolerance.

[@TheDefeaterr]

Only problem I had with Post Scriptum I had was how hard it was to find a game on Australian servers, even during the recent free weekend that happened, which brought an influx of new players. I can usually compensate when playing on a foreign server at 200+ ping in FPS games (although not ideal, obviously) but in tactical shooters where TTK is so much less forgiving, it becomes really frustrating.

[@roflstomps324]

That's me getting Post just off the sound difference...

[@danielrobertson2154]

yeah idk what CoD game HLL ripped those crap gun sounds from but PS is where it's at as far as i'm concerned

[@zapdoshoes]

Agreed but I did like the explosion sound from hell better

[@broski4039]

HLL is still in early access and they have already fixed a lot of the issues shown in this video.

[@dernbuy]

I get stuck to trees alot and have to respawn to get back in the fight but my main issue is the amount of cheating going on. I do enjoy playing but im sorry I didn't go post scriptum

[@EyyMunchian]

@@dernbuy Cheating in HLL? there aren't that many hackers on HLL

[@JustSkram]

Great news, HLL is coming out of EA and still has a ton of issues.

[@utterube]

@@EyyMunchian Your crazy, playing anywhere that doesn't have active admins is pure cancer. Play on that one France map and they just sit in a tank and shoot you through the bushes from their line. They can shoot through multiple buildings and cover like it isn't there. They like to run around full sprint using the automatics with zero recoil and aimlock you before they have fully exited the sprint animation. People can argue the bush and grass render bs, but if you are a medic or squad lead and lay down smoke, it is pretty obvious when someone is consistently wasting your team with headshots like the smoke isn't there. It is a noticeable difference between gameplay in a server with active admins and the moment someone turns on cheats it is night and day. Some of the best squads on their best day will have a team score of 1200. When you see someone who is level 1-15 with a solo combat score of 300-400+ every single match they're likely not legit. And that's when they are being blatant. The maps are large enough that most people wont know them well enough to get ridiculous scores like that in the first 15 character levels not to mention learning the recoil, bullet drop and leads. HLL is awesome, but don't try to say it doesn't have any hackers. It's like any fps game these days and in unmanaged servers it is just as riddled as every other shooter. The worst are the server operators/admins who use cheats themselves trying to play soldier. Luckily the server list allows you to favorite and filter out the shitter servers and you can consistently have awesome experiences.

[@EyyMunchian]

@@utterube You must be trash at the game then. And just pure lying. Tanks cannot shoot through buildings. I average a 300-400 combat score too... Most people you think are hacking are simply just not. You're literally just bad at the game and don't know how to play well. I've met only 1 cheater in hell and I have hundreds of hours of gameplay. Learn the mechanics. It's more of an arcade style to learn the physics of things. They might see ur helmet but you cant see them. Some bushes you can shoot through (obviously?). Just learn the game mechanics and quit treating hell like scriptum. If you play the game for even just 100 hours, you should get accustomed to the maps. Sounds like your just complaining and refusing to learn and adapt. I'm not saying 1 is better than the other because they have obvious main focus differences, but your "issues" are avoidable or false.

[@Isoquant]

Holy crap I’ve been slacking in my gaming. I need post scriptum in my life yesterday!

[@itisriley]

would be great to see this comparison annually while the games are both being actively updated

[@yeeterleppoelelep4438]

I have both but Post Scriptum is way more fun, more content, more vehicles. I always just enjoy ps more even when I’m playing by myself

[@wafflecougar-online]

Post scriptum is so fun and the community is great.

[@werwerwerwrwerwerwr8436]

Even the background music worth to see the whole video :'DD

[@DjBasstorm]

Amazing work man! They still reloading the m1 garand in a dangerous way, cause their thumbs could get stuck doing it that way hehehe

[@picklucas]

If you’re wondering which to get : In my opinion, while these games do have the somewhat of the same layout (time setting, genre, etc.), both games are very different. Post Scriptum is more of a tactical shooter than HLL is. TL;DR: if you want to have an intense tactical WW2 shooter, get Post Scriptum. If you want more of an arcade-feeling game (though still tactical), get HLL. They’re both amazing games and deserve your attention. Have fun!

[@chickon636]

All of a sudden post Scriptum looks more like squad

[@AHPcameron]

@Nick930 You’ll have to do another video of this comparison after HLL fully releases, as it’s still now in its early preview stage....

[@avveb9644]

sounds like post scriptum is recored outside and the sound from hell let loose are from a indoors range

[@willthrill901]

Went from HLL to PS. Really enjoying PS

[@spencerc7819]

Great video but I have to admit the Sound Design portion did not do Post Scriptum any justice. Hands down one of the best parts of PS and Squad is the incredible sound design for suppressive incoming small arms fire, distant combat, fire support (artillery, mortars, and aircraft strafing/bombing runs), and vehicles like tanks. Post Scriptum will blow your mind the first time you get into a heavy firefight that features fire support and tanks while wearing a headset.

[@naufaldaffa194]

Especially Post Scriptum, here we will be shown their respective roles in more detail and depth. Like sending artillery or aircraft attacks, the infantry will ask the radio officer who is then forwarded to the team leader. So the leader should decide that.

[@naufaldaffa194]

Because a lot of war games are based on history but prioritize effectiveness and ease of play, this can be seen in the Battlefield series. In Post Scriptum (because I always look for references in this game) we can live up to each other's roles, such as team leaders, radio officers, tank crews and artillery, medical, and others.

[@biboKralle]

Graphics (especially lighting) has been improved drastically in PS since this video! Can you redo a comparison?

[@mormorknepper6776]

After playing Post Scriptum for a week i will 100p say that it is the best war game ever!

[@MrBigDaddyGG]

I bought both, play both and love both. Post scriptum is more sim, HLL is more arcade. Also PS is more finished with way more content like maps, guns, vehicles and stuff. HLL is still very young game and i have a feeling that in a year it will be awesome if they do bullet physics right and better role/node/supplies gameplay. Also needs more optimisation. It also needs vehicles badly. The downsides of BOTH games right now is terrible server issues, like loosing connection to host, timeouts, insane queues with more than 20 people waiting, random disconnects, anti cheat errors and disconnects and so on. Also new maps on HLL stutter, needs way more optimisation. Same with PS new maps. Also PS just randomly crashes with unreal bug report window pop up. Also forget abaut playing sniper in HLL if you dont have NASA PC so you can load first into the game and take the spot. Just my opinion and my thoughts. Hope it helps.

[@ninjalord1951]

Of mine point of view the roles of the players are better in HLL

[@acetech8642]

Plus HLL has 100 player servers and PS don't.

[@On_The_Piss]

Ace Tech what’s the point in 100 people if no one is talking to each other? I’ll still take PS. There may be less people but it’s more about team play and communication. HLL is just another run and gunner.

[@acetech8642]

@@On_The_Piss I'm playing right now and we are talking. Stop spreading misinformation........ You can't compare this game to PS as they are not the same. Ps is only 80 [player per server and HLL is 100 player per server. it's like comparing Battlefront 2 tyo Planetside. The main reason I bought HLL is for the 10-0 players. I left Ps as it was too small for me as I played Battlefield 2 FH2 a lot. and that was 100 players per server. I can't downgrade anymore.

[@ninjalord1951]

@@On_The_Piss are u kidding, right? Communication in HLL is more important than in PS, if you don't talk with your team or squad leaders don't organize with the commander, it's almost a sure defeat, it's obvious thatv you've never played hll

[@daliilars3350]

It's a shame nobody ever compares motion blur quality. First time I saw the Battlefield 3 trailer it was a mazing experience. Looked so cinematic.

[@lt.ancenagon8353]

Actually. Post Scriptum`s squad Spawnpoints can also be placed if Squadlead has 2 other Squad members in 8 meters radius from him.. or he just uses any Radio(-men) available to place, or refresh, the rally points! :)