It's just nice to see so much ways that are viable to play now
@panzer00Күн бұрын
@nicholasalexander6358 There always were multiple viable playstyles. The "community" is just dumb lmao.
@AWACS_SnowblindКүн бұрын
Bloons trained me for this. _Time to make Rogal Dorn proud._
@connertomaterhater6691Күн бұрын
Fortify that position
@ioerrorКүн бұрын
I was thinking of Perturabo instead
@kolbynope391130 минут бұрын
i NEED a way to heal turrets
@generalrendar7290Күн бұрын
This was so much fun to play! The toughest part was trying to find an open spot to place my turrets and not throw them on top of other's turrets. In the last fight, my turrets bounced off the mountain I wanted, and half of my turrets were wasted. Great loadout that uses volume of fire to make up for the turrets' main weaknesses.
@AnonEMous-ij8jpКүн бұрын
Not just for defense missions but the MG43 turret is lowkey so good. I use it on bugs because it's refresh is 81 seconds meaning that it's almost always up in times for a bug breach or as covering fire during objectives. Additionally it's great for disengaging for fights because the MG43 turrent wont just cover ur retreat but also serve as aggro against bugs. Additionally it's synergy with anti tank support weapons is amazing. Chargers will priotize turrets over you which means that you can easily take out the charger before u kill it but also the turret can cover you while you reload. Such an underated strategem
@iceicebabieКүн бұрын
It SLAPS. Pair it with auto or rocket and you're set. The low cooldown dude.... SO GOOD. People sleep on it so hard thinking it's weak. It's OP against everything that it can pen. Heavies and such? That's what the RR, Autocannon, ect. are for. Or.... The heavier turrets!! Spread the gospel lol
@sveng9933Күн бұрын
I have the Gatling Barrage, MG Turret, Guard dog and Quasar as my loadout, together with the Las7 Dagger, Crossbow and Thermite and the CM-21 Trench paramedic. The short cooldown of them both are great, they are nearly always available when i need them. I use the barrage on nests and breaches and put the MG beside the nest or behind the breach. I nearly need no supplies mostly just for stims and thermite. I use the LAS7 as my main, needs no ammo takes care of the small and medium stuff and also signals my team where to look.
@AnonEMous-ij8jpКүн бұрын
@@sveng9933 Thats actually a really interesting load out that I should try. I find that my typical loadout tends to be really similar except I kinda swap the primary and secondary. Instead of crossbow I take the pistol grenade launcher and the Sickle for a primary. Additionally instead of guard dog I take the jumppack for disengaging. But I defintely see the idea behind your loadout. I'll try it next time i play!
@sveng9933Күн бұрын
@@AnonEMous-ij8jp Great tell me how you like it. I tried multiple things. Used the breaker incendiary and grenade pistol for months. Tried supply backpack, jump pack. I often got overrun by hunters and scavengers, when I reload or the jump pack was in cooldown. Also the breaker is bad against stalkers, for the crossbow its just another bug. The bow is also faster to close these damn holes. Now I mostly die because of lack of situational awareness, to close to teammates air support, got flanked or use the bow in to close proximity.. Its really fun a bit like a DD in an RPG with CC and long range weapon. LAS7 and Quasar can shot over the map if necessary. Edit: I use the Ar23 guard dog because of the medium armor peneration.
@238356985 сағат бұрын
@@sveng9933ima have to try this 2morro. Thanks for the idea
@kashem425Күн бұрын
I’m surprised how little people use turrets. Deployment method is important as well. Tesla towers behind or adjacent to breach/drop sites but away from attacks. Sentry turrets deployed behind or 90 degrees to promote triangulation of fire and manipulate aggro. One person with this set up can keep all waves out of the first gate in tower defense map as high as level 8 (have t tried higher).
@quangtrinh7119Күн бұрын
i tried it, you can solo a bot drop at lv 10. You will need 1 stim to hold grounds with the HMGE though. This used to be my go to method against bot be4 the buffdiver patch.
@omni_0101Күн бұрын
I've been trying to become a Tesla expert. 2nd hardest problem to deal with is chargers but I have it mostly solved pairing EMS mortar and stun grenades. #1 hardest problem is my team not giving and Is and dropping orbitals and 500ks on my towers. But when it works, I've gotten up to 800+ kills and I can frequently solo nests and breaches.
@pkmtsar701st9Күн бұрын
I’m ironically, you just made TF2 engineer into Hell divers
@doglog5748Күн бұрын
God damn I miss the OF team fortress days. I loved the engineer play
@Airmarshal50centКүн бұрын
That went really well. I feel like there is some room for some support weapons. The great thing about autocannon and rocket turrets is that they will do incremental damage. So if you have something like the arc thrower or commando, it will tend to stagger chargers and potentially get it low enough that the autocannon or rocket damage will kill it much faster. Or they may have even damaged it enough before you bring your weapon around, the commando becomes a 1-shot weapon again. And stratagems like the eagle rockets or strafing run could supplement as well. Stalkers/hunters/pouncers seem like a bigger problem for turrets too, so I would take a primary or secondary that can clear those at close range well. Maybe stun grenades, which could help against chargers as well. Your guys picked a nice mix of turrets which I think helps. I don't know if everyone would need to bring a tesla tower, but one was really nice. Similarly the EMS mortar. That was fun to watch :)
@TheNightOwl11683Күн бұрын
The fact that you can find the AMR, Stalwarts, Machine Guns, Flamethrowers, Arc Throwers, Grenade Launchers, & the Laser Cannon on planet does make it tempting to not take a support weapon. Also, the Purifier full charge buff makes it feel like a support weapon at times.
@Airmarshal50centКүн бұрын
@@TheNightOwl11683 Scavenging is definitely an option. I think I would slightly prefer at least one person taking a support weapon for the reliability. Eats or Commandos could be called in on cooldown, distributed amongst folks and saved. Could probably have at least a couple arc throwers on folks even if just 1 person brings the stratagem. I'd take an MG43 over nothing, but I think there are a lot of optimal choices.
@iceicebabieКүн бұрын
@@Airmarshal50cent Hell, I just ask my teammates for theirs when the cooldown goes off if I can't find a good support weapon (usually the case). The extra turrets and air support make up for it, and once I have a good support weapon? it's like having 5 or 6 strat slots. Legit gamechanger. It's teamplay though, relies on teammates taking support weapons that are actually appropriate for the mission/planet (Example: Spear on a foggy map. Not great in my opinion. If it had thermal scope..... Oh god. That would be awesome. But it doesn't.)
@joshuadavis2175Күн бұрын
You know the game is in a good place when you die more to friendly fire
@zero11010Күн бұрын
The guard dog and rover are basically a sentry with nearly 100% up time. After the buffs the guard dog is MUCH more effective than the rover.
@TheNightOwl11683Күн бұрын
Yeah, I always used the Rover & never bothered with the regular Guard Dog. Now, it's the opposite. It's a huge relief when the Guard Dog can drop Devastators & Rocket Striders with ease.
@atlaslee8681Күн бұрын
Guard dog and AC turret essentially automates the game for you. Some people hate it, but sometimes I just want to chill and spread democracy without watching every single sightlines!
@zero11010Күн бұрын
@@atlaslee8681 run the machine gun sentry and guard dog. I run 10 bugs. Full clear. My kill count is usually double to triple the other people (700-1000). No need to farm breaches. Keep ammo in the pack by hitting points of interest. Drop the sentry on cooldown (placement matters). Very possible to ALSO use autocannon sentry. That’s basically 2-3 sentries almost at all times, to be clear, I don’t think the autocannon makes the build better. It’s just a change of pace and it also works.
@regenosisКүн бұрын
@@zero11010 regular machine gun sentry or gatling? I've tried guard dog (post patch) but I don't know, a lot of times it just doesn't seem to want to fire. Kinda just hovers and does nothing a lot of times.
@zero11010Күн бұрын
@ regular with the faster cooldown. That’s key. Keep trying. I’m level 150. I only do full clear on 10. I usually have 700-1000 kills and a low death count. I run solo on the map clearing objectives and nests while searching for super credits.
@WincredibleHulkКүн бұрын
Was recommended you by the salt diver podcast. First one of your kids popped up. So had to watch and subscribe. Impressive work lads.
@Legofan267623 сағат бұрын
"That rocket sentry saved me but killed me at the same time" it still saved you, it saved you by putting you out of your misery.
@romarikanuКүн бұрын
I quite often use an Engineer build and the biggest thing that helps is staggering the cooldowns of your turrets to have one for different situations. I also bring 3 turrets and a RR to instantly delete any heavies that try to damage my turrets, and gas grenades to confuse enemies. It’s so fun and effective!
@MonikerMonkeyКүн бұрын
I recently found a glorious combination in the AX/AR-23 "Guard Dog" + E/MG- 101 HMG Emplacement. With the recent buffs to the Guard Dog now being able to shoot Liberator Penetrator rounds [medium armor pen] it can now take care of: All types of devastators, Berserkers, and the little annoying guys that pew pew and shoot rockets. Pair this with the HMG emplacement and shield gen relay and suddenly, your only problems are tanks and turrets, BECAUSE THE HMG EMPLACMENT CAN DESTROY EVERYTHING ELSE. Don't have an HMG emplacement you can throw down? Take the freedom dispensing senator. It'll take care of everything an HMG emplacement can. Liberty damn it all I love Super Earth.
"anything that comes over this hill just gets deleted" proceeds to climb ANY hill in view of 16 Sentries that have upgrades allowing them to track the HELLDIVER better and gets deleted as a Stalker shows up and bros hug each other for safety.
@Ben_D.Күн бұрын
Brave dude goes in and punches bugs in the face while surrounded by four active turrets.
@owenbar505512 сағат бұрын
Also pro tip not mentioned: have all triplet digit 100+ divers on board to make any super helldive easy
@NadacalypseКүн бұрын
Another Tip. On bots take a shield generator relay with your sentry loudout. It will help keep you AND your sentries alive vs all the fire and rockets. It’s amazing.
@brandonjew1397Күн бұрын
Personally, i found that a 50/50 combo of offensive stratagems and turret strategems to be the most efficient combo. But i still need to rely on teammates for support weapons
@toryunaminosaki1022Күн бұрын
smoke is kinda mid on bugs, but it's kinda slept on for bots, it's really good for breaking los on rocket devastators and tanks. some bots will blind fire into the cloud, sometimes, but it's still great if you're pinned down and need to move
@nicholasalexander6358Күн бұрын
Tip for radar towers, there a fairly loud audio que when it lines up, so listen out for it as your're turning
@wobbegong4366Күн бұрын
Autocannon and rocket turrets are my go to vs the Automatons. I use the bots to destroy the bots.
@a_kumaКүн бұрын
With the entire team taking sentries, it would be better for one person from the team bring a Recoilless Rifle in their loadout. Once it's off cooldown he can also call it for the others as well. Immense value here over having just another turret as you can easily take down structures besides heavies.
@HattWareКүн бұрын
I bet adding an arc thrower into the mix would optimize the loadout even further, since one big weakness is Chargers breaking the sentries early. Have one guy on stun duty while the turrets do their thing.
@sweetautumnfox22 сағат бұрын
Turrets are awesome with distractions too, chuck them the other way you’re going and they’ll scream HERE I AM DIRTY BOTS COME GET ME
@TheJestersDoorКүн бұрын
Should have switched out the thermites for the stun grenades to stop those chargers from stomping your turrets!
@loganroderick4539Күн бұрын
Dude... as an experienced sentry engineer, you gotta use stuns grenades and engineer kit armor. Youll stop any charger coming for your sentries.
@Whocares1068Күн бұрын
Clasystethics calls this “Domain Expansion” hahahaha. Small variation with an Antitank support weapon. It’s dope as hell. Fun and just different. I’ve been doing this or a variation of this. I almost always have the most kills running 4’s. Love supporting my teammates by eliminating as much threat as possible.
@kentoscocos5238Күн бұрын
_Let them come, let them brawl, let them face the insurmountable might of Helldivers_ loadout
@claudeb3673Күн бұрын
By just getting 2 turrets out you now have 2 more guns shooting on enemies. The only balancing factor is their immobility
@pricefieldxКүн бұрын
something thats even better is have 2 with all sentries and 2 with all barrage and a mech it turns the game into a true battlefield
@theoneandonly1802Күн бұрын
Now that is a true power of Super Earth 😁. Question, is it possible to do all electric build. EMP, Arc, electric shotgun etc... Ohh Tesla of course lol.
@22rsx11 сағат бұрын
On bug missions I make all my friends take gatlings. It’s the best turret, as now it’s pretty easy to kill big things.
@xuanhiepluong4798Күн бұрын
glating and mg is already melt but mg for scan area, some crow control, luring heavy unit toward it glating for breach and drop ship, very power in hotel bug, stun hulk in place if thing go chaos, drop 1 , out ammo, drop another, make sure behind rock or high ground and remember alway prone when glating shooting, cause that turret is very dangerous, 1 enemy behind you and it shoot you both
@RaNikstarКүн бұрын
Tactical Tower ATTACK - strategy tactic from old times of RTS - just build your base on enemy base!
@omni_0101Күн бұрын
I just got 800 kills with a Tesla Sentry and EMS Mortar. All i need is teammates who respect the tower (rare) and to stick around and micro the chargers and titans with stun and quasar and the tower will sanitize a cauple breaches at a time.
@TavorathКүн бұрын
And thats why upgrading sentrys is the most expensive
@CowboyAquaticsКүн бұрын
I have found consistency with kill combos breaking 100 with ease and even reaching over 300 if I lead a breach to a heavy or mega nest that then leads into a breach partway through when using turrets vs when using barrage or eagle, simply because they are constantly locking on and continuing the chain rather than sometimes having to reload or wait for the strikes to hit which breaks the chain. And now that they fire at such long range I feel like I'm playing Democracy Defense.
@krevetka9744Күн бұрын
Next try 4 strafing runs, 4 cluster bombs, 4 gatling barrages and 4 orbital airbursts. The challenge is to have it all on cooldown at all times. If you have one stratagem sitting ready for longer than 30 seconds - you lose.
@JohnSheffield-zs3leКүн бұрын
Honestly this would be my stratagems
@KingEnvy984521 сағат бұрын
They should put a suit in the game with a perk that allows you to take a extra stratagem with you.
@big_gucci_scorpio328Күн бұрын
Anothwr cool thing about this loadout is that you don't have to go and pick up a backpack or support weapon when you die
@TheNightOwl11683Күн бұрын
Gatling Sentry is considered bad now because it's only AP2 whereas now the MG Sentry is AP3 with a much faster cooldown. It's pretty much pointless to take. The Guard Dog is more useful than the Gatling Sentry now.
@p3rranКүн бұрын
Might i suggest that at least two of you bring gas grenades as the gas will confuse the bugs, which will defeat a charger which is charging at you/turrets. Not gonna be effective against biles tho...
@KoalaTContent20 сағат бұрын
We tried this a few days ago, we called it *"All Green"*
@ioerrorКүн бұрын
I love the Gyattling sentry
@jotairpontesКүн бұрын
E N G I N E E R G A M I N G
@alveusdukech4301Күн бұрын
The BGM for this video should be TF2's More Gun
@theredbar-cross8515Күн бұрын
I've been going with a 3 sentry + RR loadout on both Bugs and Bots for the past week. I have gotten the highest kill count in all my games... and I barely even fire my primary.
@xcaptainmorgan9Күн бұрын
This was a blast same with the mech game
@JoinkerКүн бұрын
The new meta 🗣️🗣️🔥
@daiwang8111Күн бұрын
The problem with turret is that they're only good against bug, while the bots can easily destroy it from afar
@ShotGunner5609Күн бұрын
Then you need to work on positioning. Because bots take a while to start shooting an undetected enemy. A rocket sentry up high is picking off things at 100m and the autocannon at 75. Work some stun grenades into the mix, and get into a habit of initiating ambushes yourself so the turrets have an extra few seconds to work. Last night I had my RS up on a hill overlooking like 200° of target area. It supported one of my teammates moving solo through some smaller bases and against multiple waves of enemies. You just gotta get some of that agro off of them and they do amazing work man.
@phantom1051Күн бұрын
How do you do the shell yeets?
@ricardomonsalve7397Күн бұрын
Pick up the shell and switch weapons immediately
@AFKnaHSamaКүн бұрын
19:55 also MG turret has 1. Faster cooldown and 2. It has same armor penetration as Gatling Turret
@AFKnaHSamaКүн бұрын
21:44 1.st Mortar because it will deafeat enemys far beyond your sight also good If sandstorm 2.nd MG because fastest cooldown 1minute20seconds or so Not fully Upgraded 3rd. Rocket because. ROCKET OP and for heavys also good I wonder If Rocket/AutoCannon and Tesla could clear Out Bug Nest Alone 🤔 need to try it
@PlantMan5823Күн бұрын
Normally the enemy has 4 targets to chose from. Now they have 20 targets, any of which can kill.
@IBASteveКүн бұрын
THEY NEED TO BUFF THE EFFING SLUGGER ALREADY!
@96spazКүн бұрын
Smoke nades and smoke strikes r amazing against bots
@takenorikagiКүн бұрын
Me and my squad always go atleast 12 sentry on exterminate mission. Bile titan couldn't even stand up.
@DarthSentinel08116 сағат бұрын
We should get a flamethrower turret
@not2stupidguitarКүн бұрын
Bloons Tower defense 6 has entered the chat
@VloggingogginКүн бұрын
Loving all your videos but it feels criminal to watch you look at samples and run past them! Please just grab them for my sanity haha
@NoblesseOblige-ln5mhКүн бұрын
They will be even more effective if they stops bouncing off the surface 😡