Helldivers 2 - I Tested Everything in the NEW Truth Enforcers Warbond (on Super Helldive Difficulty)

[@vynnski]

Unflinching should have just been a standard heavy armor attribute.

[@the_takibo]

Interesting take.. And I love it, that would've been great

[@lordbeerus462]

They keep making armor that makes in-game mechanics that already feel bad, slightly better. I want armor with real substance

[@DustedTaint]

Agreed

[@shloopydoopersontheloreguy9069]

A lot of stuff should be basekit for certain things. For instance the ammo booster could easily be basekit for how often people take it. It's almost mandatory. Makes the booster meta stale.

[@blackreign673]

an even better take, the passive should've at least been functional.

[@WhisperedTo]

Stalkers in response to dead sprinting: *_"You will run. But you will die tired."_*

[@geonet3965]

Isn’t that from Ghost recon btw?

[@lukemehalick370]

Trust me, its been around since shit talking was invented. ​@geonet3965

[@WhisperedTo]

@geonet3965 I have no idea. I tried to Google it but found nothing with Ghost recon.

[@fenfrostpaws2000]

*Laughs in Experimental Infusion and medic light armor*

[@Brakka86]

I had thought a jetpack would be useful vs. hunters. Oh, the folly of my ways.. they too can jump. There is no escape! NONE!

[@ZetaCavaliere]

Vitality booster greatly reduces the dead sprint health drain

[@Im_the_guy_under_your_bed]

You can only equip one booster per mission

[@Azrael178]

Greatly is an understatement. I basically voids it. I'm pretty sure I sprinted half the map with it

[@abrahamalviarez5870]

oh thanks for the info!!

[@kurejiakuma]

Stim gun unlimited sprint? Lol

[@fenfrostpaws2000]

Get a squad member to run Experimental Infusion and you'll be Usain Bolt xD

[@skimrizzle9598]

i had hoped the flinch would stop me getting interrupted trying to heal

[@the_takibo]

Facts brother..

[@Flameshot_]

the passive is bugged and not working as of now

[@lordbeerus462]

It's one of the biggest reasons I die

[@TheCHEESEG]

The most annoying thing in the gamd

[@disco5005]

​@@Flameshot_ A tale old as time

[@nooby762]

tip: the stun ammo on the shotgun stuns through armor (you can stun chargers with it from the front)

[@the_takibo]

Really? That's sick

[@slayzet4293]

So its like shooting mini stun nade fragments?

[@nooby762]

@@slayzet4293 honestly im not too sure but it somehow stuns them when you shoot them in the face, maybe its bugged

[@slayzet4293]

@@nooby762 maybe stun shell pellets detonate with ems so it goes through armor just like stun and ems strike. I noticed those small pellets explode into tiny blue spheres adn they are very prone to ricochet on the ground

[@DocDictator]

@@nooby762 The fleshy orange parts from the chargers back and belly have armor 2 so the light pen stun pellets register damage, you need several pellets to connect to these orange bits to proc the stun effect and since the spread on the stun configuration is huge you must stand really close to the charger.

[@rictuserectus6686]

Having a dedicated firemode switch key would make the shotgun incredible

[@-moongorilla-]

Yeah, this is exactly my issue with it. Tried it last night and liked it mostly, but it's just too clunky to keep switching back and forth in a fight (also don't like that they have the ammo type selection where fire rate normally is, rather than on the left)

[@imsweetthanks7677]

I was using the autocannon with it on bugs and it was really annoying trying to switch the firemodes between the two weapons because they are different buttons

[@corsim5997]

also a dedicated change scope button too.

[@MrIcepick1337]

If you are playing on PC and have the hardware that supports macros, you could set this up with on button

[@Mister_RandomGuychannel]

Unlike stuff like smgs or rifles, shotguns dont needs zoom or lazers so they should make it so double tapping reload changes automatically

[@budge3281]

Game theory: This SMG is just a test to see how many people use it compared to other SMGs and ARs. Then AH can come out and say this is obviously where ARs should be at and buff them all to feel like the new SMG while slightly buffing it by giving it 30 rounds and taking away 1 mag.

[@Akantorz]

They need to do much more than that, this gun has weird flaws that get in the way of it's design. Example: -They either make it like the Dominator, hard-htitting, slow to control but pretty accurate still OR -They make it handle like a dream but be useless outside of short range. Unfortunately they are trying to make it both and oh boy is it bad. The gun is ok, mostly only good for bugs, but when even the Constitution feels better for bots is pretty insane, but that's what horrible accuracy will do to you.

[@zen8504]

​@@Akantorznew SMG is good for bots... Outside of goddamn shield devastators, but those fuckas are annoying with any other non-explosive weapon anyways

[@Casey-J-Williams]

I’d want 35 rounds in the Reprimand, but who am I

[@venlil]

I think its fine where it is, you just have to be aggressive and have good control over your gun while on full auto which requires effort but is do able​ @Akantorz

[@Akantorz]

@@venlil The recoil control isn't the problem, the issue is the combination of that plus bad spread, Eravin shows the bullet spread in his video and it's pretty bad for a SMG.

[@mr.e7005]

One thing I did notice about the stun rounds on the halt is that they can stun chargers mid charge if you shoot them in the face/jaw area, really good to hold them down or stop them from ploughing you in a microsecond. Also on the bot front, it's super useful for making heavy devatators put their shield down for a bit.

[@eq2lornick]

The armor should have a secondary effect too imho. Maybe something like stand up 30% faster after falling. Whatever. Just something.

[@emeraldturtle5523]

I definitely think it should have had that too, something to help with crowd control in general not just flinching

[@GGBlaster]

The handling buff from peak physique would be really good too. Or, could add a resistance to ragdolling

[@emeraldturtle5523]

@GGBlaster honestly just having the armor be "heavier" in the sense that you don't get thrown as hard/ far from ragdolling would have been an excellent addition

[@chimbo7787]

I feel like they should add effects to helmets as well. Would add a lot more variety to loadouts.

[@eq2lornick]

@@chimbo7787 What I would like to see helmets have is some kind of enhancement slot and for players to be able to use an augment of their choice for that slot. That way players can wear whatever matches their outfit but still get a benefit of their choice. Best of both worlds.

[@DocDictator]

The health loss is mitigated to almost nothing when you also have the Health Boost

[@kenethernandez6246]

Yup

[@ItzSpritz]

But if you’re gonna stim anyways for extra sprint, you can run your health down, stim, and keep running almost for unlimited sprint

[@V3LKA]

my only issue would be getting shot at while sprinting away, which is why i bring jump pack all the time

[@ItzSpritz]

@ I definitely wouldn’t use it for automatons. For bugs though I would

[@Foxtail190]

Thing is, stims give stamina back.

[@ItzSpritz]

@ yeah but instead of just using it for stamina, you can run your health down, stim, get full stamina and full health back and run all the way until health is low again. You could run at least half the map using one stim I bet

[@Foxtail190]

@ with the vitality boost tip I heard before, probably

[@marcelwaddell6290]

My man delivering this in a concise comprehensive and palatable manner

[@CheeseCake_OP_Chronicles]

It's weird that they call it unflinching when you still flinch and get interrupted whenever you try to heal. I still feel if you're aiming a rocket and you get hit you will miss your shot. They should have drastically removed the flinching by 90% or removed it completely no questions asked. And I agree unflinching should be a base standard default effect on heavy armor same with explosion resistant

[@stuartdaly1132]

Because you get staggered when you’re hit, not flinched.

[@Exshooter101]

@@stuartdaly1132 what exactly is flinching then?

[@stuartdaly1132]

@ when you catch a laser shot from a bot, and it throws your aim off. Mostly will notice it when you’re shot by a heavy devastator or using the quasar cannon against a hulk bruiser

[@Exshooter101]

@@stuartdaly1132 but you said you get staggered when hit and not flinched, so when does flinching come into play vs staggering?

[@stuartdaly1132]

@ you get staggered from melee attacks, and flinched by most ranged attacks from bots

[@Puggle-bot]

I absolutely love this warbond so far. For me, the submachine gun is perfect - but I almost exclusively play with a squad, and let them pick the gimmick weapons allowing me to run automatics for cleanup and mowing small enemies down and/or cover them if they get overrun. The tenderizer was my personal fave for that, but with the medium pen of this weapon I think this'll take the cake easy. The plasma pistol is *just* out of reach atm, but I definitely want it. Am a huge fan of plasma weapons, I love each and every one of them - was so looking forward to the pistol and am so glad to hear that it's good! Love your videos btw!

[@Robert-fr9wl]

Why tf they didn't fix the TENDERIZER!!!??😢😢😢😢

[@periwinkle2486]

​@@Robert-fr9wlwhat needs to be fixed? it feels great

[@rudecomments9994]

All of the single perk armors should get the better recoil while crouching or prone perk. It's already there in the game code and it's the perfect blend of not too weak, not too strong.

[@sgtsaltstick2729]

Imo, they should have generalist and specialist armours. For example, armor with explosion resistance, has recoil dampening. Why not split it up and add more to it? Move the explosion resistance to the extra nade armour instead. Slap recoil dampening onto the viper armours. As for generalist armor, just have them trade perks for raw durability and speed.

[@Shway_Maximus]

Makes no sense that there is 1 light, 2 medium and 0 heavy variants for the new amor passive

[@DustedTaint]

I feel like it was a mistake maybe?

[@Shway_Maximus]

@@DustedTaint i think so too. I hope so

[@RivalFaust]

Cutting edge had the same problem

[@Shway_Maximus]

@@RivalFaust did they fix it?

[@kompatybilijny9348]

@@Shway_Maximus no

[@abrahamalviarez5870]

"there's not a heavy armor variation" oh believe me, that will come to the superstore in maybe a week, devs always release the new armor passive in new shop armors (those that u have to pay like 300 SC)

[@DeafEnder]

The super store armor is already available and its 400 sc for a medium armor. The other choice was a player card and a cape.

[@SomeScruffian]

The current Superstore armor is also very reminiscent of the Jin-roh black panzer armor. We got wolves among bots now.

[@szymonh8772]

Halt seems like a very nice shotgun but my all time favourite is still the cookout, the ability to stagter enemies, light them on fire AND have rounds reload makes it feel like a better breaker incendiary :)

[@water4826]

That whole fire warbond is actually so good now, the torcher is so good for bugs and clearing out hordes it’s not the greatest for the big threats but I always have a stratagem for them. Torcher and the cookout are amazing

[@juhumamamam3768]

crossbow is the way

[@disturbeddonut2151]

I really struggle with low fire rate primary weapons on terminids, I always find myself overwhelmed, any tips? I’m perfectly fine with things like the sickle and the breaker though. But I’ll never be able to enjoy the eruptor or the cookout like the rest of the community seems to, feels like I’m missing out haha

[@juhumamamam3768]

@@disturbeddonut2151 the Crossobow is singlehand. So you can run away and Whilst running Shoot behind you. No crosshair but you will get the feeling soon.

[@PRC533]

the halt is just a worse cookout, that's why.

[@Fying0strich]

3:13 Ironically when talking about the new Unflinching armor passive. The Diver gets flinched by a light shot that stops the Stim from being administered. Personally I dont really care about being aim punched. I care about my stims being administered or typing out a stratagem being canceled by light impacts. I'm not a drip diver, I'll probably never use the Unflinching armor in its release state. Just like Inflammable, Electrical Conduit, Democracy Protects, Servo-Assisted, or Advanced Filtration.

[@Bigkeg]

SA and DP are goated rn with limb and torso health being so shitty. Not to mention the 50/50 coin flip and throwing distance respectively being bloody handy.

[@obliviondio]

Cookout is one of the best against bugs. It stuns, deals a decent amount of damage, sets enemies on fire, has a large spread of fire to guarantee hits on shriekers while the fire kills them

[@unrelentingduress]

Thank you so much for not coping over the SMG. As much damage as it does I'm always in at least three to four situations where I wish I had something else.

[@alvaroquinterosaguilera2822]

this warbond is fire ! hope we get more like this next year

[@yaboycookie]

10:08 I feel attacked for reloading between each shot.

[@rohesilmnelohe]

For spewers, i prefer the GP. Since they usually bunch up: a single grenade to the sack detonates all nursing spewers, 2 takes out the bile spewers. It also one-taps striders in a pinch. I usually ran DCS /GP / Spear combo for bots, but right now I am loving the full auto diligence (AKA the new "SMG")

[@ManuR-l4m]

Arrowhead: "Want a Shotgun? How about another Shotgun? Do you like Shotguns, cause here is one? Shotguns are cool. Get a Shotgun today!"

[@MidLoafCrisis]

"Sir, this is the Hammock district"

[@LittleMissLuna232]

i *need* a marksman crossbow, we've had enough shotguns

[@raidman3733]

I'm just sad we didn't get a toxic sludge thrower. Fuck gas, I wanna be a "Captain Planet" villain and kill the enemy with the caustic run-off from the Super Lithium mines used to produce my Space Phone.

[@LittleMissLuna232]

or maybe programmable ammo for the crossbow already have where you switch between normal and explosive bolts

[@shoulderpyro]

@@raidman3733 Got a better one. The ability to ignite the gas for a bigger explosion, DRG style. It'd make such a good synergy between Pyro and Gas builds

[@invertedv12powerhouse77]

the new shotgun is literally the perfect primary for machine gun/heavy machine gun mains. the stun potential is huge. not for helping with reloading, but rather for stopping stalkers and heavy devastators and hulks. for hulks i can already see dealing with scorcher hulks and getting easy headshots with the heavy mg. but i would prefer the new smg for bugs, and would pair amazing as a recoiless rifle carrier in lvl 9-10. still good for mg carriers too. the new shotgun however for bots looks like the new king. i love it. these weapons actually add alot of fun factor trying new loadouts for me

[@DeafEnder]

Doesnt stun hulks just ricochets even to the head

[@Ibra-fx1dy]

Id love more support weapons, using the same ones again and again gets boring

[@invertedv12powerhouse77]

@Ibra-fx1dy i agree we could be due for some new weapons. Ive been an mg43 and heavy main from the start before the buffs (well the heavy mg after its first buff). Still waiting on backpack belt fed minigun

[@PRC533]

Just use the cookout, it does everything the halt does but also clears chaff.

[@olegyurchenko4127]

About assault rifles. Automatons(Light Pen): Almost useless, unless you have med/heavy pen support weapon and/or secondary weapon. Without it any striders is huge pain in the ass. Automatons(Medium Pen): Nice but high recoil ruins them, also they consume large amount of ammo. B-1 backpack is required. Bugs(Light Pen): Must be used with backpack due to high ammo consumption(shit ton of bugs), though it isn't bad for Quasar users. Can't effectively kill hordes of bugs, also struggling with Hive Guards, Alpha Commanders and Bile Spewers. First due to them having Medium armor, others just take too long to kill them. Bugs(Med Pen): Same as for Light Pen. Can't as well kill hordes of bugs; Alpha Commanders with Bile Spewers take too many shots to take down. Recoil still an issue. Summary: Assault rifles generally worse weapon choice because player can't really assault enemies with them and has numerous disadvantages while fighting enemies.

[@Mr-Hakim]

I would argue light pen works better on bots than bugs, since most Automatons can be headshotted.

[@Slowhatch23]

@@Mr-Hakim agreed. I almost exclusively take assault rifles vs bots to headshot enemies

[@olegyurchenko4127]

@@Mr-Hakim Yes, but there is only one bug type and one subtype with medium armor. Of course if we exclude chargers and further which are somewhat equal to Hulks and further. Yes, most of automatons aren't that big of an issue with light pen. However all striders will make you pay for that. Even one strider becomes quite dangerous, not mentioning if it is with other bots or there multiple of them with other bots..

[@oli_steinn]

True, but i dont understand why recoil is an issue. To me high ap = more gunpowder = more recoil, i f.e. dont appreciate that the lib pen deals less damage than lib base since it must have either a faster or heavier projectile. I use lib pen on burst because of the recoil. I think ap3 ar's should do more damage, but smaller mags (larger brass) and a lot of recoil. Burst should be standard for accuracy, as with faster, higher ap bullets, 2-3 shots should be plenty to shred an automaton head or joint.

[@olegyurchenko4127]

@@Slowhatch23 Did you tried 7-10 diffs? For these diffuculties you very preferably need somethng strong against many Hulks, Tanks, etc. If not , then you already have weapon against smaller bots and destroying them in mass quantities is your contribution in the team.

[@zero11010]

Dead sprint - Vitality booster practically negates the damage from dead sprint. So, the stim pistol will readily heal through it for infinite sprint.

[@Khaerikos]

I think the problem with assault rifles and automatic weapons in general in this game is the fact that our supplies are often so limited, and assault weapons are so greedy when it comes to ammo consumption (thanks to their damage being distributed more slowly through more rounds down range, instead of each bullet dealing decent damage.) that they've become super impractical to bring, in pretty much any instance. Why bother bringing a weapon that fires more - but weaker rounds - when you can bring a harder hitting weapon that just requires you to be more conservative with your aim, and supplement that with a sentry.

[@frothyxd7784]

This has also been my issue with auto weapons. Tried the scorcher out recently and loved it, but I was needing ammo soooo often. Compare that to the xbow or purifier where you find an odd poi with an ammo box every 5 minutes and you're good.

[@GGBlaster]

Assault rifles… you’re probably onto something there. What AH could do is give ARs higher total ammo capacity - more and bigger mags. They can be somewhat mid-tier in other categories, but as long as they can last longer than other weapons, they could become more relevant.

[@Tabonius-917]

Ars should have higher damage than the senator following real world premises but if not at least give them 15 added damage to everyone one of them with higher armor pen on average having say medium with adjudicator getting heavy and the pen lib getting heavy thus making every ar absolutely peak

[@GGBlaster]

@ yeah, real world premises would probably not work as nicely, as it leaves most secondaries as redundant, if not useless. What it’ll ultimately come down to is AH asking itself what general identity they want ARs to have, if there’s an unexplored/unfulfilled niche, and why a player would choose an AR over some other weapon. I suggest ammo capacity because the lighter ARs struggle to compete with the Sickle’s infinite ammo. So some damage buffs could be in order, but ammo would also be useful, as 5 100-round mags, for example, would be functionally equivalent to infinite ammo, given typical supply drop rates and ammo pickup spawn frequency.

[@nemarsde]

Exactly. More dakka!

[@earthnugget7881]

The fact AH has said the liberator is their standard for what a weapon should be like is worrying to me because the liberator is pretty awful especially on higher difficulties.

[@Flameshot_]

I know your a solo player in all but the passive is better when paired with vitality booster, like you are able to sprint 3 times as long I would say, its a lot better

[@kenethernandez6246]

Man this warbond SLAPS. They definitely cook with this one 🔥.

[@jangokv3747]

thank you for reviewing the warbond for us! :)

[@Pers0n97]

The new booster is nice, but the devs really, REALLY need to make sure the UI will clearly tell you what's going on by having the booster icon visible over your stamina bar.

[@DeadlyNightshadeZ]

For the Halt, I stay on flechette rounds until I encounter a heavy. I switch to stun rounds to stun the heavy, then throw a thermite, then one more stun shot to keep it there. Two blasts to the face of a charger stops it mid charge, even through the armour. Having him hold still so I can land a perfect thermite on its face and then keeping him there while I run away. Making hulks and devastators stop shooting is also fantastic, and completely shutting down stalkers is great too. I only wish it was easier to swap ammo types, because having to hold the reload button for a whole second to swap ammo is really clunky.

[@sudo_-569]

4:33 bots said: cmon do something 😂

[@russian_knight]

I love the hulk shotgun so much. Not only does it sound and look incredible, but it's got a lot of utility as well. I hope Arrowhead experiments with more weapons like this in the future

[@monocyte2210]

bro your accuracy when making these shots is next level

[@WhoAreYouQu3stionMark]

Been using the halt and it's now my favorite shotgun to use against bugs. It's medium penetration comes in handy against hive guards and bile spewers and the shotgun feels fast and every shot it fires feels very powerful

[@Axxikon]

I've been hoping for black-and-red themed stuff for a while and I couldn't be happier, I've yet to try the weapons myself but I'm super ecstatic about the paintjobs and the theme of the whole thing.

[@coredefect6134]

1:10 lies, im ALWAYS running without stamina

[@_Cyph3r_.]

the new smg as well as the assault rifles give me something the "Meta" weapons can't give me, and that is the vibe. No matter what game, I always preferred the more down-to-earth weapons to the over-the-top plasma/laser weapons.

[@KauffmanJohn]

bit late to the party but the vitality booster works really well with dead sprint. it extends the duration of it from about 25 seconds to over 2 minutes. with the stamina booster, vitality, enhanced stims and dead sprint you can literally never stop running, which is pretty fun and great on blitz missions.

[@zeph_os]

The shotgun can actually stun chargers. It's very picky about placement but I've been able to stun chargers and make sticking thermite grenades trivial. Not to mention those annoying spewers are far more tolerable, even if you need a more powerful weapon, not getting puked on from every direction makes it my favorite all-purpose shotgun

[@IAmNumber4000]

Unflinching armor really should have recoil reduction added

[@ethanwilliams4918]

I have just got back into playing Helldivers a few days ago having uninstalled it months ago (just after the viper commando warbond). This is SO refreshing to see, multiple extremely viable options on one warbond as opposed to the utter garbage (like tenderizer on release).

[@matthewquinn7991]

Arrowhead coming out with Another absolute banger, can't wait to get my hands on these new armor sets

[@GregAndrews03]

Considering the superstore was full today with an extra player card and Cape. I would assume when the superstore resets, that's when we're getting the heavy armor they just couldn't put it all out there at once like they normally do.

[@phdbot4483]

After running the Plasma Pistol as the Bulwark and Heavy in Space Marine 2, it made me want to get the Plasma Pistol for my Helldiver, glad to know that it's a pretty strong secondary weapon, the Halt Shotgun and Reprimand SMG also look like fun.

[@ElricD19]

Don't worry about the relevance of weapons. It's all about playstyle. I've never once listened to anyone who's said "this weapon is better or the best" I play what I enjoy, and I do very well with them.

[@rayzevalorant1944]

Finally someone tests the weapons on hard difficulty

[@ChrisParrishOutdoors]

The superstore armor options that dropped with the warbond have the passive and their drip is amazing. I ended up using my super credits on them instead.

[@LutherLee]

Reprimend is crazy good for taking out Jammer Towers. Literally kills everything in its path when up close

[@geovanneteixeira100]

Im quite happy to try this new shotgun, i actually learned how to use the punisher, now this shotgun is like the punisher and sludger fused.

[@jamesmee5212]

Appreciate the effort being put into these man, dont think we don't notice lol keep up the good work brother💪

[@RubberToeYT]

Great summary, might try to get the smg tbf

[@JayCreative7]

Yea the Gun is very strong. All you need is a Supply Pack & you’re good to go. 👍🏾

[@fiesesalien]

I am quite happy. Especially with the style of the armor. Now I can be a truth speaking commander without a thought and bring managed democracy to the universe! And I do like the weapons, they are rear-end load of fun and overall, this is one of the best day 1 warbonds so far for me. Stay crunchy.

[@snubhero2810]

I think weapons being objectively better than others doesn’t matter too much as long as they’re all good weapons.

[@AtlantaAndroid]

I think the Fortified or whichever reduces the explosive damage you take, is S+ tier on bots.

[@jamestillman5247]

Yes but does it have same level of Drip doh?

[@kenethernandez6246]

​@@jamestillman5247Exactly

[@Ben-fk9ey]

I feel like balancing assault rifles is very tricky as they're so multi purpose that they can easily become over tuned. Also it doesn't help that they added so many without much distinctions between them, making it difficult to make them all feel unique. Just spitballing but changing one to be a two round burst with an insane rate of fire like the AN-94 and allowing the liberator carbine to be used with a shield would add some uniqueness.

[@timoak]

"If you're a mega nerd you can spam reload" Literally the main reason I run slugger exclusively.

[@chargeit7897]

The dead I have found saves me when I can’t stop running, I’m out of stamina, and I’m outta stims. It’s pretty good! I can bring it and I don’t feel like I’ve lost a big booster for something niche.

[@kamasherek]

good day everyone

[@the_takibo]

Hello brother

[@alabamapilot244]

So far I only have the blackout accessories. 100% worth it.

[@salamaneinglorion5956]

Unflinching didn't seem to do anything when I was playing with it (wearing the bloodhound medium armor). What loadouts did you test with? Great video!

[@lucajohnen6719]

There is one reason why the Reprimand is the best weapon in the game: It has the HK Love Slap. Its a Space MP5

[@monoclesquid9667]

As an Adjudicator main, the SMG is just everything I love about it but better. I wish I could enjoy unflinching more, but I already run gas nades and +2 nades so getting accurately shot at is a rarity.

[@projectarduino2295]

The smg just feels nice to use. That’s good enough for me.

[@CerpinTxt87]

SMG feels pretty good to me. So of course the subreddit is up in arms about it

[@kashjw8390]

Imagine the knight smg with medium pen. Low damage but high ROF relatively controllable and able to take out striders and devastators. Also would make sense because the p90 can penetrate some armor

[@HudsonAktau]

That was scary AF when i didn't see warbond yet but someone from the squad used this killing booster 😐 Damn it! I just couldn't understand wtf is killing me! 😆

[@MrSarcasticGaming]

Id love for them to add an armor stat raising booster then you can pair it with this armor for a real tough combo. They are criminal for not adding a heavy armor variant, feels weird robbing the clear best pair of this passive

[@anasepho]

I think the SMG may be a good backup choice for AMR users. Having a solid all-round high damage option is an ok choice. It's hard to argue that much past it, especially not as the "optimal choice" when the crossbow can destroy fabricators and bug holes but at least it's AN argument to make for it

[@YellowwFellow]

The stun ammo for the Halt is what the Pummeler used to be pre nerf against chargers. You don't even need stun nades with this CC

[@Smok3yy694]

Blitzer will still outperform vs stalkers and be versatile enough to counter hunters and other bugs as it stuns too and comes with a base Medium Pen. I’d need the new shotty to come with medium pen standard.

[@Exitium93]

My idea for buffing assault rifles is increasing their bullet penetration so they damages 2 enemies per bullet. The one you're shooting and the one behind him. (All this is based on the type of armor penetration the gun already has).This would increase their crowd control ability and you could also buff marksmanship rifle like this except they hit more enemies 3-4.

[@barrywise7185]

The SMG looks *very* similar to the German StG 44 assault rifle from WW2. Fitting for the theme of the warbond I guess.

[@lancehaderlie9587]

I'm so excited about the skill expression possible with the new shotgun. Hot switching between round types and making sure to keep both types reloaded is going to be so engaging and fun. Here's hoping they tweak the armors and maybe add a heavy armor with the flinch passive some time soon.

[@CP-zu5pi]

Why would you even be switching ammo when it 2 shots all mid enemies lol the "skill" in this game has been reduced to pick mid pen weapon, win. That's what the vocal minority demanded.

[@Dudedragon69]

@@CP-zu5pino one cares loser

[@racmanov]

Finnaly someone tzhat is not toxic positive about this warbond. Imo it is undercooked af. Smg is average at best and shotgun is great idea but there are still a lot of options i would rather play with. Pistol is also ok but i mean verdict has way more ammo... Another warbond that will be buffed to relevancy later

[@Echo_0261]

I feel like standard automatics are still fun, especially when you get bored of using different loadouts and just want to start unloading on your enemies

[@themissingpeace7956]

Things I liked: -red and black liveries for dropship and pod -red and black cape that goes with my fluffy mod -red sith trooper armor because I like the color -red title emblem, didn't like the title itself I really couldn't care less about the rest of the warbond.

[@bronzieblue63]

Dead Sprint just feels like something that doesn't really have a place in HD2, not while Stamina booster already exists. If it gave a flat increase to movement speed overall (not something absurd like going from heavy to medium speed, or medium to light, but maybe just like a half step faster overall, like the mid point between heavy and medium and then medium and light) and ALSO allowed you to continue sprinting while having depleted stamina that'd be solid and a worthy pick, but when we already have Stamina booster it feels like it's redundant in a worse way. Not to mention, your health decays STUPID FAST if you're using Dead Sprint, like walking through razorwire doesn't hurt you as much as this. Because looking at it more critically, Stamina booster gives you higher stamina reserves and also makes you regen stamina faster with no potentially negative repercussions like DS has To get mileage out of Dead Sprint, you HAVE to deplete all of your stamina for it to do anything, and even then, if you deplete your stamina mid-run, how annoying will it be for people to out of nowhere to start taking ticks of damage as they're running and suddenly being onetapped by a lucky shot? Because now they NEED to pay attention to their stamina and not overextend, otherwise they'll accidentally punish themselves for overextending themselves and proccing Dead Sprint. Dead Sprint is the only booster than can affect the player's health breakpoints negatively. This is an impressively poorly thought out booster.

[@Partiallyinteresting410]

The SMG should’ve been classified as an AR, also it might want to have an increase to it’s weaknesses because it’s a pretty much pure upgrade over adjudicator ARs, especially on bugs are very versatile, capable of long range but also good for close range DPS, unfortunately, the bugs don’t require any more range than any shotgun and the bots don’t require any less range than scorcher, so ARs lose power in the role you want by playing a role you don’t need, maybe the way to make ARs good is to reduce shotgun range and to make semi-auto rifles harder to aim and use up close.

[@johnqwaser74]

I think the Dead Sprint booster can be nearly as deadly as the combustive drop pod booster.

[@gVert404]

I think the reason most ARs feel kinda pointless right now is that they haven’t added the Illuminate yet.

[@Kittonwy]

Unflinching legend

[@El_Presidente_5337]

I just looked at my drip, the last emote and decided that this will be my next warbond. And I am just 35 super credits short :)

[@skurtlil9824]

As a stim pistol enjoyer I think I will like the booster to give my team stamina and more time to run

[@Winston-i9j]

8:09 fun fact Halt means Stop so its the stopper shotgun

[@Legendary_Honey]

I think the SMG is relevant simply because it's fun, and that's all that anyone has really been asking for.

[@rayray9865]

The reason I will be using dead sorting is because I’m a search diver it will give an extra option to zoom through the maps while avoiding enemies to get my precious samples.

[@manray005]

I really like the feeling of the smg. Are there better weapons? Yeah probably but I like this one. Feels good to use

[@solidus1995]

Still think the best armor passive is be able to throw items and strats further. If you can get direct hits with your air support or orbitals then most engagements shouldn't require a major fight. If you're sweeping a base I suggest using cover.. flinching is annoying but using cover and the right weapons should mitigate a need for it even with bots. In my opinion. Then again I'm also running dead sprint particularly because I like being able to trade 10% health to get out of an ambush.

[@YellowwFellow]

We needed a faster reload speed booster for all primaries but arrowhead would think that's too op game breaking

[@MidLoafCrisis]

'Dead Sprint' is to Helldivers what The Substance was to Demi Moore in the movie of the same name

[@TheSpiritus0]

In order for assault rifles to become relevant again they would have had to commit to the idea of high damage fall off for smgs. That way assault rifles could actually fill the nice they're supposed to. Powerful mid-long range weapons. That's kind of how it already is to be fair but with weapons like the liberator carbine which is a glorified SMG its hard to actually figure out what it needs to be.

[@JamesBond-wh3cu]

The anti-flinch should've been a booster...

[@lemonzest8650]

aiming down sights with the smg helps a ton with recoil