This isn't over. Do not relent or forget what happened because this is still Sony. Until everyone can dive again nothing has changed. Until its confirmed that countries that were locked out of purchasing the game can again it's not over. All Sony has done is said things on social media. Talk is cheap, action speak louder. My review will stay negative because I have no faith in Sony to not screw this up later when they try something else.
@yamivalkri3 ай бұрын
the playstation network account required tag is still up on the steam page , the may 2nd update page DOESN'T say its been removed simply that they are learning about player preference , NOTHING is changed except a REVIEW SCORE FOR THEIR UPCOMING INVESTORS CALL by people taking a twitter post as solid evidence, until the PSN required tag on the helldivers 2 page is removed and an update clearly stating it wont require PSN on steam im not changing my negative review im not falling for twitter crap that can be reneged on without consequence.
@hoteleight42173 ай бұрын
@@yamivalkri This is what annoys me the most. Nothing was done yet and everyone is acting like all is right in the world.
@yamivalkri3 ай бұрын
@@hoteleight4217 exactly why the hell is everyone going braindead and taking some talk on twitter as fact and not looking at the actual actions which judging by the updated info on the may2nd update which simply is a hold on the PSN requirement not a reversal to be a reversal they would have to both say its being reversed and remove the requirement from the steam page and put it in an update. not to mention work on reopening purchases for all those blocked countries none of which has occured
@danyelrod73 ай бұрын
PS5 gamer here, I was rooting for PC players from the beginning. We're stronger together, and I want so much more from Helldivers 2. In honor of our win, I bought the original Helldivers game to show support.
@dannydement3 ай бұрын
Sure
@pjmack1773 ай бұрын
I feel the same. I'm glad it's going in the right direction.
@zenuhell3 ай бұрын
Don't let up the pressure yet until all our brothers and sisters of 177 regions reach home before letting go of the reviews, we dive together or none at all
@pawel32413 ай бұрын
That was steam doing that. This will all revert back. The whole issue was the sign in that's fixed. So everything else will return. You think they won't allow 177 countries to buy after its no longer needed. Think bro.
@Kushking_Kraven3 ай бұрын
It's not removed only temporarily you have until June 4 by a admition by the dev of removing the requirement June 4 th is your last day without a PSN account where is the win@@pawel3241
@Kushking_Kraven3 ай бұрын
What did you win you have 30 extra days June 4th no account no helldiver's 2 where's the win they removed it from countries you think they want remove it from PC it's no negotiation Sony will require y'all sign in just giving y'all time to come to grips with the decision don't make a account you won't play June 4 th
@Tinytraveler3 ай бұрын
Some say it took 3 days for Sony to change their mind. Others say it was cause General Brasch didn't hear about it for 4
@RealBelisariusCawl3 ай бұрын
He was busy being used as an orbital strike on Hellmeyer.
@RobotsWithKnivesCartoons3 ай бұрын
When they update the availability in the regions they cut off from purchase then I will change my negative review. I have a bit of trust issues with large corporations, I need to see them act on their PR.
@skyblockjake3 ай бұрын
This right here!!! Exact same, I am waiting for it to be brought back to those regions. Or Sony can literally go back and say PSN is required again.
@milehigh99383 ай бұрын
At the very least, I like to see a developer respond to customer feedback.
@ReforgeGaming3 ай бұрын
they did very quickly, playstation thankfully backed them and the players and walked it back
@jamesthomas24103 ай бұрын
Pc saved the day thankfully big misstep by sony
@ReforgeGaming3 ай бұрын
agreed
@johnnyjets23433 ай бұрын
I would expect psn sign up requirements to be standard for all future titles at launch specifically with their live service games on PC.
@Spectacular_Insanity3 ай бұрын
"It was the f*ck-aroundest of times, it was the find-outest of times." ~Charles Dickens
@CV-lm7pv3 ай бұрын
The Helldivers community is writing a page in the history of gaming since day one. Let's really hope the content never stops, because this game is something truly special
@Zycoreination3 ай бұрын
I haven't even played helldivers and I have both steam and psn account, that being said I am very happy you guys fought this corporate move, it will strengthen consumer rights in the long run, small steps but this is definitely a massive win for players.
@oliviertang93683 ай бұрын
Still 2 problems here: 1. Cross-save/progress system. What AH and Sony gonna do? 2. Player in the regions that be PSN-locked still can’t play.
@RealBelisariusCawl3 ай бұрын
1: If you really want that, then you already need a PSN account so this hasn’t changed much for you. Those of us who don’t have PSN accounts … it doesn’t matter? 2: I’m pretty sure if they’re letting the status quo remain, then it’s just a short matter of time until those countries come back.
@oliviertang93683 ай бұрын
@@RealBelisariusCawl That’s why I’ll keep my negative review for myself and player in those region.
@RealBelisariusCawl3 ай бұрын
@@oliviertang9368 Perfectly reasonable. Here’s hoping that soon enough you can be satisfied enough to change your review. I think it’s coming.
@vanceg49013 ай бұрын
All this Helldivers 2 talk in the last few days got the game back on my radar, getting it on PC Steam for me little weakling laptop.
@bryangray14223 ай бұрын
As a PS5 user, I stopped playing. We Dive together. My point is, I've seen a lot of hate for PS5 Divers, and some of it is warranted, but know there are lots of us who supported PC players. We fought for this win together and it is an honer to fight for Democracy with ALL the Divers. SES Queen of Serenity
@GNCD20993 ай бұрын
Corpos like Snoy speak the language of money. Those metrics are money. They played chicken with the community and they blinked first.
@kalebdewitt67793 ай бұрын
One simple decision isnt enough to immediately revoke the bad reviews. If anything it should reflect the current state till everything been revoke especially since unless i miss an update the game is still removed from those country meaning they can go back any time and force the implementation
@wolfsaints3 ай бұрын
Actually, it was in the game before they disabled it And from what I’ve heard from people, I’ve talked to some of them could skip it and some of them couldn’t
@hadrielstriker3 ай бұрын
1 people 1 super earth For the 177 we must show our worth For us all to see victory Bringing them home must be our priority Untill they are home we must not rest Because fighting for whats right is what we do best If the 177 are not home i will not dive alone Helldivers one and all We dive together or not at all
@Bunnymorphosis3 ай бұрын
*kusoni* : you must create a psn account to play a pc game you already bought *half the globe* : am i a joke to you? *japan* : ok, let's do it *kusoni* : you must buy a playstation to create a psn account in japan *japan* : am i a joke to you?
@revmaillet3 ай бұрын
ukraine has to buy a ps4 or 5 to make an account also
@warchild16733 ай бұрын
Thhet are learning that console players can be rough. But pc players are a hole other beast.
@sub-fivessurvival3 ай бұрын
The War is not over, now we need to hold Arrowhead accountable and make them fire their community managers.
@firebat21203 ай бұрын
The only party we needs to be hold accountable is Sony. Arrowhead only develops the game. Sony sets rules on how it is released.
@paradoxxor77703 ай бұрын
Okay, pump the brakes friend ✋️ No need to cancel anyone & ruin their livelihood 🏠
@sub-fivessurvival3 ай бұрын
@paradoxxor7770 Ruin? They simply can't do their jobs nor portray a sense of professionalism.
@sub-fivessurvival3 ай бұрын
@firebat2120 Arrowhead knew this was coming and was not transparent about it. On top of that, their CMs did a horrible job.
@sage-on6jf3 ай бұрын
When playstation messes with the helldiver community: Helldiver community: (insert "bro, gotta lock-in" meme here)
@philipho1883 ай бұрын
All most gamers want is to play, everything else is BS...
@silver_subaru3 ай бұрын
I get why some people don't like it. but if they made it optional for a while and let there be cross progression between PC and PS5 so those users that want to can play in both places with the same character.
@MelroseMike3 ай бұрын
👏👏👏Great Vid! Sony/Arrowhead made the right decision and making the Worst decision.
@MelroseMike3 ай бұрын
After…. not and…
@duross1013 ай бұрын
I don't really understand why we can't all unite console players and PC players. If you think technical about it we're all using the same equipment just different operating systems. Can we not just agree that scumbag corporation should just sit back and let the developers make awesome games?
@wolfsaints3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree. They messed up by allowing it in those regions and they should’ve changed the FAQ before the game launched I feel like the mess up with the game being in the regions or PSN isn’t available was had something to do with all the previous PlayStation games on pc being sold there since they they don’t have the psn linking requirement
@luketaylor64033 ай бұрын
I think it should stay optional unless they put cross progression and store game saves on their servers to play where you left off on ps5 but if it doesn’t have that then it should be optional that how I feel or make it optional to link for cross progression other than that linking to me is not necessary
@follumramp13 ай бұрын
this is a big day not only to HELLDIVERS b to games overall this shows we can stop the big money hungry game company's and publishers
@justwait98223 ай бұрын
Money hungry? This was a misstep by sony but it makes sense for them to require psn signin for their games on steam. It's costs the consumers nothing other than a few minutes and allows sony to show investors growth in Mau. Ms does this and reports steam users, ps users etc as part of their mau. You need a linked ms account on ps to crossplay minecraft. EA also does this, wb does this with some of their games etc. The issue was that it wasn't enforced at launch and some countries don't have access to psn.
@follumramp13 ай бұрын
@@justwait9822 hehe there is so many games charging you f all kind of stuff is helldivers can win this we can force them to give up odder bad stuff as gamers
@stewarde173 ай бұрын
I think they just need fix the 177 country not being able to access not the requirements to link account.
@pizzaisyourlife3 ай бұрын
That was Steam.
@Strykerx313 ай бұрын
11:45 Wait how is THAT a Arrowhead or Sony problem, thats just Valve needing to redo that entire Game info Innerface.
@PB-gk1vh3 ай бұрын
Sony and Arrowhead have a responsibility to make sure everything is correct on Steam. Also that it was available only in PSN allowed countries if that was going to be a hard requirement. Which they knew about 6 months before launch.
@Strykerx313 ай бұрын
@@PB-gk1vh it was correct on Steam.
@ReforgeGaming3 ай бұрын
arrowhead disabled the PSN requirement
@Strykerx313 ай бұрын
@@ReforgeGaming But the requirement was still on the Game info.
@Nammjahtan3 ай бұрын
I agree the argument of "the store clearly says it" is not good enough because what the store says is in fact NOT clear. This game became a massive hit really quickly and quite a lot of people when they buy a game like this they don't read every minute detail. They have seen its success and popularity and they decide they want in. Also the store page does not even say you need a psn account in order to PLAY the game. The wording is bad because it is unclear. You could easily have assumed due to the wording that you need a psn account in order to link your psn account to your steam account. Which OBVIOUSLY... yeah you would. I've also heard about a in-game splash screen that has this information on it. My only pushback to that is the splash screen is extremely easy to NEVER see because I have never seen it after 189 hrs played. If the unclear store page and a single in-game screen you can easily miss are the only places to see this info then it was not communicated properly. In my own case I never even looked at the store page until all of this because a friend gifted me the game.
@adrazz_gaming3 ай бұрын
The problem is not the fact that the psn account will be required to play. The real problem is that psn is not available everywhere. Microsoft and google are worldwide. You can create those accounts for any country, compared to sony which is available in only 69 countries.
@nomad47793 ай бұрын
Well, this is gonna be my last PlayStation for sure doesn’t make any sense for me having to pay yearly for playing online
@electrobob9923 ай бұрын
They will probably bring the mandate back again after some time. So don't stop mentioning it. Feel free to make the reviews positive again, just keep mentioning being against PSN linking. They really should just give exclusive benefits to linking, but kept optional.
@InterstellarKev3 ай бұрын
Thank you for standing up to Sony on this. I know you have a bias towards Sony but good to see even Bias cannot supersede what was objectively, a stupid decision. Sad to see the usual suspects on twitter seeing this as PC players being ungrateful or not for "their community"
@pensive85523 ай бұрын
Are the 120+ countries back?
@RedTurtle043 ай бұрын
Now I can't link my playstation account to play with my ps friends (I'm playing in pc)
@LinedanceChristchurch3 ай бұрын
Gamers are the worst. I am sick of hearing PC players talk about how Sony should do more with PC, better ports, day one Multiplatform launch, cross play, cross save, cross buy, cross platform multiplayer and trophy support… finally Sony manage a day 1 PC/PS launch (but without the inevitable PSN sign in necessary for most of the former benefits to be a reality, due to a technical issue) and now PC players want their money back!
@Kei_Kron3 ай бұрын
If this is so stupid choice to do then make Sony pay so much more. I am sorry to say but the game shouldnt recover in the slightest. If it does then i feel like sony will just do this again with another game. We have been given an inch, lets take the mile.
@xareus3 ай бұрын
Thats what i mean
@ReforgeGaming3 ай бұрын
whats that?
@barryfleming30143 ай бұрын
They already fixed it, we already won. You couldn't just make a new video. Why do you wait till every other helldiver youtuber has already made this video and roll back to talk about something that is already over.
@Blakkrazor693 ай бұрын
Sony-ponies and their "just go do it, it only takes 2 minutes"...we have not forgotten your Treason.
@countquackula85393 ай бұрын
Apparently, Xbots already forgot about Microsoft's treason to the fanbase. 😂
@GNCD20993 ай бұрын
People saying those things are completely missing the point. Surface-level thinking.
@FreaKzero3 ай бұрын
FOR DEMOCRACY! Still - We divers should fight for the approx. 120 Countries which are now excluded :( Because: We dive together or we dont dive Sad that Consoleplayers (... we see that everywhere) - are even pro Sony on that cases
@revmaillet3 ай бұрын
not all console players are being undemocratic. There were many that were fighting along side the pc gamers.
@FreaKzero3 ай бұрын
@@revmaillet i know but sadly as we see on socialmedia - there are too many console peasants who want to bootlick their favourite corporation They are even "salty" about the fact that we PC gamers fought for Democracy!
@FreaKzero3 ай бұрын
@@revmaillet more and more videos and posts on socialmedia come up that we PC gamers would be "Drama Queens" - just search for it. That was always the case - i laugh in "i just pay for my internet connection for multiplayer games" Will never understand that "loyality" from this weird people what that corporations belong.
@jurassictyrantkingYT3 ай бұрын
I have to say that PC players are saving the game now if it wasn't for the PC players Sony would not how to change their minds if PC players had spoken out and a huge chunk of the player base would be completely gone. Considering that only 69 countries have PSN as for everyone outside of that range of countries that would have been a disaster for those players. Helldivers 2 would be dead, which should Sony's Answer to Call of Duty. The Customer is always right.
@pensive85523 ай бұрын
The power drunk jerk CMs and mods need to be actioned (demoted, power removed, fired, put on final warning, etc.) They don't get the review back until then.
@The_Cold_Slither3 ай бұрын
I for one will be sure to have cross play turned off.
@manwithoutmercy3 ай бұрын
Why lmao
@Blakangus3603 ай бұрын
Most likely, they back tracked because they upcoming game Ghost of Tsushima
@MrMultiPlatform3 ай бұрын
PC Karens whined enough
@k33nan6963 ай бұрын
Yiikes
@ReforgeGaming3 ай бұрын
indeed
@GNCD20993 ай бұрын
If other publishers are doing it, why is it a problem when Snoy does it? That's the point. We've been eating shit for a long time and we refuse to eat more of it.
@dannydement3 ай бұрын
Then I best see the same pressure on them to remove this requirement or that rings very, very hollow.
@ReforgeGaming3 ай бұрын
it took 3 months to turn on, that's why
@GNCD20993 ай бұрын
@@ReforgeGaming Which proved that it was not needed and it doesn't really add anything. It's akin to bloatware and PC players really don't like that.
@gobstomperbow35173 ай бұрын
I understand having some exclusive content to drive people to want to buy your product. But with how explosive helldivers was. Making it a ps5 exclusive and demanding psn hookup was stupid. If i was sony watching helldivers explode like it did on steam i would have dropped the psn mandate(knowing that psn cant reach everyone on pc like steam) and i would start talks with Microsoft to tap into the obvious Xbox ODST community. As a PC gamer that started put on Xbox i would buy helldivers again for my xbox and i could convince my friends on xbox to get a $40 game vs failing to convince any of them to get a pc.
@jameswulfgang1543 ай бұрын
This says the May 6th - May 30th deadline will be discarded, which was meant for New players in the original post by Sony. What of the June 4th account link deadline for existing players? Is that being discarded as well? I dont believe so, if not, i think we're gonna be in the same boat in a month. Finally, what are the odds Sony fixes the previously "unavailable in your country" players to be able to buy the game again? Seems like a huge waste to deny access to all those regions despite them previously being able to play it. Big fumbles all around on this one. Such a shame really. Helldivers 2 was shaping up to be one of the best live service game in 2024.
@tgrim20343 ай бұрын
This was blown WAY out of proportion
@Mr_Putts3 ай бұрын
Disagree. Compulsion should never be on the table for crap like this. If companies want compliance do it with a reward, not a locked door.
@ReforgeGaming3 ай бұрын
and yet, consumers speak and companies have to respond, it is how it is supposed to work
@ClassicXander3 ай бұрын
Players in over 120 countries that have purchased the game would no longer be able to play, with PSN being restricted in their country. Got Sony to listen and realize what they did.
@FreaKzero3 ай бұрын
i smell a console peasant
@Originalzzzz3 ай бұрын
this is bull, GET IT ON XBOX
@davidsimire25533 ай бұрын
My only problem was the hypocrisy of PC players.
@ZippyNarwhal3 ай бұрын
You have no grasp of what was happening if you think that lmao
@leafstormblaze94493 ай бұрын
Hypocrisy cause of a 177 countries who bought the game couldn't play?
@pizzaisyourlife3 ай бұрын
Bruh, dude. The problem was that not all countries allow users to create a PSN! Which literally meant the game would become unplayable for them! What about it do you not get?!?
@MegasXaos3 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? Accounts? I can assure you, I don't have an xbox account, a psn account, a ubisoft account, an epicspyware account, or any other account linked to my Steam account. Just because you like taking corporate dick up the ass being a sony pony, doesn't mean the rest of us do.
@jurassictyrantkingYT3 ай бұрын
PSN is only available in 69 countries everyone else outside of these countries would have been locked Out Of Helldivers 2. Sony's own actions would have killed the game and killed Sony's Trust with the PC players. Not surprised that fanboys are still good corporate shills of Sony.
@RodanSmith3 ай бұрын
It is clear Sony needs to be more hands on their policy, they funded and supported this studio for 8 years, i was shocked to see AH throw their own publisher under the bus with precision and ignonimity. This is not a win for players imo (majority of whom had no issues playing the game nor registering for PSN even unsupported countries). this is a victory for a very small minority with large followings on places like reddit and discord. Linking your account is not a hassle, PlayStation games had to link a Microsoft account to play seas of thieves. Even Minecraft, years after the game had been out without the requirement. 117 countries being delisted seems more like a steam to prevent the rampant refunds. All in all, a storm in a tea cup that got out of control, thanks to the fanning of the flames by AH and its woefully inexperienced CM team as well as content creators looking to get some engagement.
@PB-gk1vh3 ай бұрын
How do you propose players in countries who did not have access to PSN deal with it? Don't poo poo this win against a big corporation like Sony. They made this problem and to their credit appear to have corrected it.
@dust9213 ай бұрын
im still not coming back till they up the lvl cap & add a jump . BUT im vary happy with the fans for standing up for freedom🪖🗽