Helldivers 2 Want us to Leave NEGATIVE Reviews... PSN Situation

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Stylosa

Stylosa

Күн бұрын

Helldivers 2 PSN Sony Steam account situation gets worse. However, Arrowhead and Helldivers 2 devs are fighting back. They want our help, Sony will only listen to negative review numbers and refund requests. This situation is developing. #helldivers2news #helldivers2update #helldivers2
0:00 100,000 Negative reviews in 24 hours for Helldivers 2
1:21 Devs are fighting back against Sony PSN Requirement
1:58 PSN requirement REMOVE for countries where PSN is not available?!
3:06 Sony caught chagning website description
3:45 Countries where people can't make PSN accounts
4:09 Devs want us to negatively review on steam and refund, to give them ammunition against Sony
6:00 Community Manager Says Sorry
6:22 Steam announcement came from Sony, not Arrowhead
6:57 The Helldivers MUST Fight BACK!
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@eloinpuga
@eloinpuga 20 күн бұрын
New major order: Push the Playstation front 55 medals
@jordydepp7440
@jordydepp7440 20 күн бұрын
Fuck... I'll do it for free.... FOR FREEDOM
@unknowndragon3736
@unknowndragon3736 20 күн бұрын
That’s a bit too low, 69 metals
@Informal_Jester
@Informal_Jester 20 күн бұрын
Nah make that 200 medals
@pkkiller_apathy4568
@pkkiller_apathy4568 20 күн бұрын
@@unknowndragon3736 Failure of the major orders means the death of thousands of helldivers from the 121 countries not supported on the PlayStation front.
@TheRealAnsontp
@TheRealAnsontp 20 күн бұрын
*NEW MAJOR ORDER:* Helldiver, grave tidings. Super Earth and Managed Democracy yet again faces another grave threat to our way of life. Sony Entertainment has formed their Bureaucracy against Managed Democracy. Their corporate demands have put Super Earth's stability to the brink. Put a stop to Sony's advances, return to Super Earth at once and recite your managed democratic right to protest against anti-consumerist and bureaucratic corruption. Each and every Super Destroyer above Super Earth will be a symbol of Freedom. And don't worry about the Bots or the Bugs, at least we know they can't think. These corporate dissidents do. *This message has been approved by the Ministry of Truth, and Ministry of Unity.
@ArmorStudioNYC
@ArmorStudioNYC 20 күн бұрын
You don't mess with a player base that killed 2 Billion Bugs in 12 hours.
@drunkenqueen3077
@drunkenqueen3077 20 күн бұрын
And also completing "Defend 10 planets" Major Order which is initially seen as an impossible task.
@ArmorStudioNYC
@ArmorStudioNYC 20 күн бұрын
@@drunkenqueen3077 The devs inadvertently, or purposefully were preparing us for a real life attack on democracy from Sony. I think we've responded wonderfully.
@Alexavian
@Alexavian 20 күн бұрын
The PC player base is less than 5% of the sales.
@rvval7497
@rvval7497 20 күн бұрын
@@Alexavian buddy u forgot to add extra zero in there
@jamjam-pd9oh
@jamjam-pd9oh 20 күн бұрын
@@drunkenqueen3077 sorry, but that one was adjusted that the planets get more easily defended by the game master. 'coz yes. that was really impossible. but they made a bit of tweaking.
@WEIRDxGRIM
@WEIRDxGRIM 20 күн бұрын
Some info about how to get a refund. Go to help steampowered and select Purchases. Then look at "I need help with a previous purchase or shipping." and pick Helldivers 2. Do NOT pick "I would like a refund", but select "I have a question about this purchase" Then just say what has happened like you now need a Sony account and you don't trust them with your data, they changed their ToS or something like that. Make sure to do this when the mandatory login has happend, so after May 30. (save this in notepad for later use)
@DrFrankenStain
@DrFrankenStain 20 күн бұрын
You can ask for a refund, if you're in a country with no PSN coverage, as you'll be effectively locked out of the product you've purchased by the publisher, without breaking any TOS.
@Man-xk9rz
@Man-xk9rz 20 күн бұрын
Don't plan on buying Helldivers 2 because this debacle but damn this is some good info.
@IrnMaiden304
@IrnMaiden304 20 күн бұрын
They wouldn't refund when you spent over two hours staring at a " Connecting to Server " screen .... They aren't going to give you a refund now, but the people in those regions that don't have PSN or aren't allowed to .... They have a better chance.
@Danso_3000
@Danso_3000 20 күн бұрын
​@@IrnMaiden304This is not true. Just spend like 2 seconds Googling it. Steam are making an exception and giving refunds for helldivers even if you're beyond the typical 2 hour limit
@andrewzotsenko
@andrewzotsenko 20 күн бұрын
In some countries like Ukraine you can create PSN account only having console
@Shadow211195
@Shadow211195 20 күн бұрын
A small addition. Sony released the announcement on Friday. As a lot of people (most probably outside of politics) are unaware: Fridays are always used for stories/news that they want to die off quickly. So Sony knew this was bs.
@angryzergling7832
@angryzergling7832 20 күн бұрын
Good point. Politicians have used that to announce the implementation of unpopular policies and the carrying out of unpopular actions since forever.
@thebaron9405
@thebaron9405 20 күн бұрын
The devs asking us to "show our displeasure" is crazy, they want us to leave negative reviews to get weight for their argument to Sony
@DMSBrian24
@DMSBrian24 20 күн бұрын
This, unironically based
@thebaron9405
@thebaron9405 20 күн бұрын
@@DMSBrian24 based arrowhead, "Review bomb the game so we can stick it to the man 🗿"
@deepakmohapatra7416
@deepakmohapatra7416 20 күн бұрын
i also think CM got an earful from higher ups.
@orthrusthetoad
@orthrusthetoad 20 күн бұрын
​@@deepakmohapatra7416 Pretty sure it was encouraged based on the discord conversation
@thebaron9405
@thebaron9405 20 күн бұрын
@@deepakmohapatra7416 oh yeah, they didn't fire him but he probably got a good ol' "WTF ARE YOU DOING, WE NEED THEM ON OUR SIDE"
@Ro_Ball
@Ro_Ball 20 күн бұрын
If Sony does give the "go ahead" and does block the game behind a PSN account, I sure hope that somebody from the Helldiver community will do another data breach on Sony's database just to prove a point.
@sepphoris8463
@sepphoris8463 19 күн бұрын
This would honestly be THE story of the year, if not for multiple years. Sony - and many other companies - would never be able to get away with trying this again.
@yassenwessam2162
@yassenwessam2162 19 күн бұрын
That would be HEAVILY appreciated
@skinless333x2
@skinless333x2 19 күн бұрын
So people that didn't do anything wrong suffer because ? Nah. If then go for the assholes at the top, leave people that didnt do anything out of it.
@Sphendrana
@Sphendrana 19 күн бұрын
I have a feeling about this. That Anon is working in the background as we speak. I can have hope that they will strike regardless, or threaten to strike if this is not fixed. A threat against Sony from Anon (again) would be probably enough to get them to cave. I doubt they want more bad PR from YET ANOTHER HACK. I'm never in any state of worry over my own personal data, I don't do shit online that can get me financially ruined or socially (I have no job, and no bank account, and thus no credit/debit cards to pull money from, I get games as gifts from friends and I use prepaid cards I buy with cash WHEN I pay for a game myself. I also never put my REAL address on a VIDEO GAME account, it's absolutely absurd that MS/Sony want to know your physical address. Bitch the only reason you NEED that is if you fully intend to send me a birthday card and a free game each year, otherwise I'm a Bad Moons Ork from Catachan, and my zip code is Purple, like my skin, which you'll nevah see comin'.
@Maximilian-Willert
@Maximilian-Willert 19 күн бұрын
@@skinless333x2 Depends on who would perform the breach. Just because they can access the data does not mean that hey need to misuse it just to prove a point. What would be your suggestion for "going for the a-holes at the top"? Ethical hacking is a thing and it is happening every single day...
@xXSjapXx
@xXSjapXx 20 күн бұрын
Just for Europe alone, it is consumer protection that will keep PSN from legally banning players who won't sign up for PSN to play a game they already paid for and have access to!!
@cupofjoe.88
@cupofjoe.88 19 күн бұрын
No, you'll just get a refund.
@khanch.6807
@khanch.6807 19 күн бұрын
​@@cupofjoe.88 No. They will get a lawsuit.
@Sphendrana
@Sphendrana 19 күн бұрын
@@cupofjoe.88 You from the EU? Pls confirm.
@donsly375
@donsly375 19 күн бұрын
@@Sphendrana are u from yurop brotha?
@Mowlsten
@Mowlsten 19 күн бұрын
@@cupofjoe.88Steam doesn´t get me a refund. Tried es two times...
@Tra1n
@Tra1n 20 күн бұрын
HELLDIVERS 2 Patch 1.000.302 Patch Notes: •Removed Chinese Divers •Removed Russian Divers •Removed African Divers •Removed Filipino Divers •Removed Eastern European Divers
@yassenwessam2162
@yassenwessam2162 20 күн бұрын
A typical patch that the automations would make 🤣
@Clancysway
@Clancysway 20 күн бұрын
​@@penguins0301You shouldn't be blocked from playing a game just because of the nation on your passport. I'm Ukrainian, and I hate that normal Russian gamers can't play this game anymore because of Sony's stupid rules.
@fkbradley319
@fkbradley319 20 күн бұрын
​@@Clancysway slute to you helldiver.
@T3koner
@T3koner 20 күн бұрын
I love gaming w the slav homies they go H A R D
@OriginalCatfish42
@OriginalCatfish42 20 күн бұрын
Funny how in every other game "we" hate being matched with those regions. But now we stand together.
@Muhammad-Jacobs699
@Muhammad-Jacobs699 20 күн бұрын
Imagine giving the helldivers community a major order and expect them not to smash new records within literally hours. If you're going to piss off one community, make sure it's not Helldivers one.
@Ug-lordetheunmovable
@Ug-lordetheunmovable 20 күн бұрын
Fr like the whole game is about rallying with your other hell divers to complete majors orders, like for all I know if AH made a major order to review bomb the game and spam Sony support everyone is gonna do it
@elifromwish
@elifromwish 20 күн бұрын
Hell yeah brother.
@Damaged7
@Damaged7 20 күн бұрын
Did they piss off a community? Did they really do that? Becuase all i've seen is grown adults throw tantrums.
@ogfawnii
@ogfawnii 20 күн бұрын
@@Damaged7 Name checks
@alekjanowski9847
@alekjanowski9847 20 күн бұрын
@@ogfawnii Yup! + PS Shill
@ladyrapture4170
@ladyrapture4170 20 күн бұрын
It brings a new true meaning to the phrase "no helldiver left behind"
@unnero1
@unnero1 19 күн бұрын
Some update: Even in PSN allowed countries, in some you can ONLY register an account from a PS4-5 console. One of the countries is Ukraine. So SONY is literally going "Well you are just too poor to play that PC game on PC, if you dont grab a PS5" in Ukraine. Which I'm sure will just go over super well.
@xuanqili184
@xuanqili184 20 күн бұрын
Helldivers is a game about taking down insurmountable odds together. And Sony just joined the battle.
@ncgrave4586
@ncgrave4586 20 күн бұрын
as an enemy front. FOR SUPER EARTH!!! and liber-tea too.
@CapitanoAraym
@CapitanoAraym 20 күн бұрын
... Sony made just the mistake to choose the wrong one
@jezza8558
@jezza8558 20 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@tomjue5128
@tomjue5128 20 күн бұрын
Sony was the illuminated all along
@karkatvantas978
@karkatvantas978 20 күн бұрын
And it will for sure be the losing side
@buglerplayz7497
@buglerplayz7497 20 күн бұрын
Sony: 🤡 Arrowhead: 🗿
@thebaron9405
@thebaron9405 20 күн бұрын
Arrowhead "tank the reviews helldivers so we can stick it to the man 🗿"
@IR-Fan
@IR-Fan 20 күн бұрын
nah both of them are clowns.
@ghostlegacy5701
@ghostlegacy5701 20 күн бұрын
I really do think arrowhead can get saved by it’s own community if we just hit sony in the heart
@PerfectionHunter
@PerfectionHunter 20 күн бұрын
I've already gone back to DarkTide 40K, their latest update is awesome 😁
@thebaron9405
@thebaron9405 20 күн бұрын
@@ghostlegacy5701 the real Helldive difficulty
@etayeydelberg6213
@etayeydelberg6213 20 күн бұрын
Went from GOTY to “oh it has mixed rating, it’s probably not worth it”
@lovinescu
@lovinescu 20 күн бұрын
you mean "mostly negative" :(
@tubetorpedo
@tubetorpedo 20 күн бұрын
@@lovinescu Maybe it could helldive even further.
@MasterMemo
@MasterMemo 20 күн бұрын
Dang, seemed like a good game.
@strippymcroe6534
@strippymcroe6534 20 күн бұрын
@@MasterMemoit is a good game it’s just Sony doesn’t like success apparently
@evanpetelle5669
@evanpetelle5669 20 күн бұрын
@@tubetorpedohahahahah
@T3koner
@T3koner 20 күн бұрын
We served for democracy and this is how they treat us veterans
@stevenwebb3475
@stevenwebb3475 19 күн бұрын
Just like real life but without the health problems... well unless you count the Creekers.
@Ronfost89
@Ronfost89 20 күн бұрын
Funny how Spitz went from basically saying to the fans "get over it lol" to "we are against this" as soon as people called his bluff.
@maxt4410
@maxt4410 20 күн бұрын
I thought I was the only one to think this. Big L
@thegoldencpu5870
@thegoldencpu5870 20 күн бұрын
From what I’m aware, Spitz was also a problem in HD1. Acted equivalent to a Reddit moderator.
@Mozef
@Mozef 20 күн бұрын
Let's just say Spitz might have been blindsided with the whole Sony posting shit about the mandatory PSN and on top of that 1 or 2 days ago some gamerz were screeching non stop and asking for a refund because nerf.. i can imagine there was a mix up of the different complaints.
@guyeswanson7958
@guyeswanson7958 20 күн бұрын
Yeah this makes a lot of sense, arrowhead devs have been pretty solid for this release so it would be odd of them to endorse a system that locks out or restricts their player base. Telling people to get over nerfs makes sense, there’s a lot of entitled players and you can only maintain decency toward indecent people for so long.
@IronicHavoc
@IronicHavoc 20 күн бұрын
​@maxt4410 I think that's just his default response to any criticism.
@iaina3251
@iaina3251 20 күн бұрын
We should absolutely praise this level of transparency and honesty from a game developer.
@Tamachii12
@Tamachii12 20 күн бұрын
Unfortunately they are just puppets in the hands of Sony, thrash company i'm never bothering to buy any sony products ever.
@SilverGuard
@SilverGuard 20 күн бұрын
Exactly. ArrowHeads community managers are far more spicy than people are used too which causes drama a lot. but I find this sort of messaging to be kinda refreshing
@Silverfox607
@Silverfox607 20 күн бұрын
Arrowhead is by far the most consumer friendly dev I have seen in a WHILE, Im glad to see that they are rallying with their players rather than saying "It is what it is" and leaving it at that
@richardjohnson8991
@richardjohnson8991 20 күн бұрын
It's pretty ballsy to tell your community to tell your publisher to fuck themselves since you can't. I think spitz is a little bit hotheaded and too quick to reply to some things but this certainly looks better than it did yesterday. I think it's worth mentioning though that AH isn't entirely absolved of its responsibility for creating this mess. They signed the contract with Sony and surely this PSN account linking nonsense was in the contract
@Silverfox607
@Silverfox607 20 күн бұрын
@@richardjohnson8991 Hard agree, something also tells me that there might have been some shady NDAs and Strong Arming on Sony's side to keep that move on the down low, but hopefully this backlash will be strong enough to knock some sense into Sony. I doubt it, but I'm keeping cautious optimism because this community is probably one of the strongest I have seen in a while.
@SESHeraldOfTheStars
@SESHeraldOfTheStars 20 күн бұрын
I’m glad that the community has come together to fight this stupid new requirement.
@Hakiros54
@Hakiros54 20 күн бұрын
it literally take like few mins to setup, you have to do it only once and people are acting as if its the end of the world.
@pkkiller_apathy4568
@pkkiller_apathy4568 20 күн бұрын
It's funny this type of community that overwatch needed ironic.
@Toothbrushs
@Toothbrushs 20 күн бұрын
@@Hakiros54but us losing our private info is forever… you don’t realize how stupid you sound
@theasacoco
@theasacoco 20 күн бұрын
​@@Hakiros54It's been said multiple times, it's impossible to do that in a country where PSN is illegal, and others won't be able to play Helldivers 2.
@FireInNight27
@FireInNight27 20 күн бұрын
​​@@Hakiros54 not everyone can set it up. PSN is not available everywhere the game was sold. These people will be locked out of their account Before speaking, think
@bigmannn2443
@bigmannn2443 20 күн бұрын
I hope Sony realizes that if they don't backpedal on this decision then it will not lead to everyone giving in and make a psn account, it'll lead to one of the most successful games they've ever published to completely die in only 3 months.
@Sphendrana
@Sphendrana 19 күн бұрын
I'm on two fences here. On on fence, I hope the game dies anyways for the sake of sticking it to a Corpo Entity as big as Sony so that the others get to see the folly of these actions. On the other, I hope Sony crumbles to their knees begging us not to leave, and insisting that every account that is refunded be given the game for free, and 10k in Super Creds. Rockstar fucked up once and gave players too much money. They owned it and said "keep it, have fun, enjoy the game!" Sony is fucking up and not likely to be so generous, more than likely to just be like "you refunded? buy it again or don't, we never cared to begin with fucko"
@jimbokilo
@jimbokilo 20 күн бұрын
Remember that episode of the US office where Ryan got the Office to register all their phone sales as website sales... That is what Sony is doing here. They want to fraudulently register Steam players as PlayStation owners.
@yvan2563
@yvan2563 19 күн бұрын
And PSN accounts can pay a monthly fee to get a higher tier of services, so they basically want to show shareholders an artificially-inflated _potential_ revenue.
@Snapplemonkey
@Snapplemonkey 20 күн бұрын
I don't think this is about trying to get more PSN accounts for "potential costumers". It's more about being able to show the shareholders "hey look, more accounts are being registered! There's growth in our company" so they can get a big fat bonus.
@Hamppdur
@Hamppdur 20 күн бұрын
Yup, pretty much a “seeee, number go up” type situation.
@hengry2
@hengry2 20 күн бұрын
@@Hamppdur they're mmo players as well it seems LOL "big numbers go brrt"
@mr__southern1492
@mr__southern1492 20 күн бұрын
It's also to sell data which is incredibly lucrative. Not to mention the terabytes of data that people get with the data breaches every couple years. Worst security ever at Sony.
@darkheart5308
@darkheart5308 20 күн бұрын
I really hope this doesn’t kill the game because this is literally my favorite game ever
@darkflash6152
@darkflash6152 20 күн бұрын
My to
@ryanlink8699
@ryanlink8699 20 күн бұрын
Same. Right there with any armored core series personally. But fromsoft has always been incredible. This small team has done magic for helldivers.
@JookerSK
@JookerSK 20 күн бұрын
If you are on a PS5 it won´t affect you.. But honestly I would never give SONY any of my personal data. They had soo many data loss and hacking issues in the last 10 years it is crazy.
@zumzici1234
@zumzici1234 20 күн бұрын
It won't as long as the game remains good. It will hit Sony's reputation tho and will probably make Sony's shareholders raise some questions when they hear that PSN numbers are boosted artificially like this and a lot of those PSN accounts may be dead accounts that will never engage with the business and result in revenue.
@wolverine_7765
@wolverine_7765 20 күн бұрын
Honestly same and i just got it idc if I'm on Playstation this is still not right
@miguelcabreracastro6968
@miguelcabreracastro6968 20 күн бұрын
Was playing warframe some hours ago with a friend and he told me that some countries need a f-ing photo of you to do the PSN... WHAT?!
@williamlee8509
@williamlee8509 20 күн бұрын
THIS IS WHERE WE HOLD THEM DIVERS! We have to show that we won't be pushed around by corporate greed. Stand fast, stand together, for Arrowhead, for our fellow Helldivers, and for Democracy!
@violenceandpoetry
@violenceandpoetry 20 күн бұрын
Here's my major sticking point: if a steam account and PSN account are linked, and PSN suffers (another) data breach, is my Steam account compromised/vulnerable? Because if so, this makes PSN hacks more valuable.
@TheSpartan_777
@TheSpartan_777 20 күн бұрын
Yes it is.
@bugbug6342
@bugbug6342 20 күн бұрын
Kinda makes you wonder who has been 'hacking" psn almost religiously every year. Sounds like intentional data leaks with some track covering to me.
@TPixelAdventures
@TPixelAdventures 20 күн бұрын
TLDR: Yes. Linking accounts usually means there is API access between them. PSN getting hacked means your Steam account is also compromised.
@alekjanowski9847
@alekjanowski9847 20 күн бұрын
@@TPixelAdventures Ye - last time I've had anything to do with SONY "Security" I've lost over 2.5k zł over their account - no way in any hell!
@amiller112
@amiller112 20 күн бұрын
This is why I wont link my Steam to PSN. I wont be playing again until this is reversed, already uninstalled it.
@20ecupirate13
@20ecupirate13 20 күн бұрын
When Sty asked, "What is it with games I like and fumbles?" That hit home for me. I loved Evolve and they fumbled the monetization. I loved Battleborn and the game failed as a live service and so even the campaign was shut down when the servers were shut down. Overwatch lost what it meant to be a fun game and just caters to sweats. Now Helldivers is being tested :(
@Radicalbeast
@Radicalbeast 20 күн бұрын
evolve was so good, and it got gutted at luanch do to the way too many packaging plans of digital content that confused too many people.
@TPixelAdventures
@TPixelAdventures 20 күн бұрын
Past Me: "Oh man, Anthem is the game I've always wanted for the boys. We can fly around and do awesome mech-suit shit!" Current Me: "Oh man, Helldivers 2 is the perfect successor to the first game. They kept everything that made it good, but made it better!" I don't like being cursed. 😥
@piloctor15
@piloctor15 20 күн бұрын
I LOVED evolve!! They fumbled that so hard
@faessle4067
@faessle4067 20 күн бұрын
I feel that so much too. It hurts actually
@stryfer1989
@stryfer1989 20 күн бұрын
Sad truth is that any game that starts gaining a lot of traction is very likely to fall victim to big company greed.
@AmbroseBoaBowie
@AmbroseBoaBowie 20 күн бұрын
I have not seen a community this dedicated to a games since team fortress two. This gives me hope.
@angryzergling7832
@angryzergling7832 20 күн бұрын
Spitz changed her tune quick. The other day she was blasting people for complaining and said making a PSN network wasn't a big deal with a snarky "tbh" tacked on at the end. I wasn't a fan of that personally.
@LosLangkos
@LosLangkos 20 күн бұрын
Dont see any change or regret. AH/Spitz are high on their own farts reacting in this way int he first place. As high as Blizzard was when they asked their PC-Diablo-fanbase "dont you have a phone" (for diablo effin Immortal). Instead of adressing the "why" just make fun of your customer. I dont get how those people get LEAD-CM and can speak for a whole company...
@jimbokilo
@jimbokilo 20 күн бұрын
Same feminist attitude of every community, social media, workforce, HR etc manager.
@angryzergling7832
@angryzergling7832 20 күн бұрын
@@jimbokilo Yep. Outspoken woman with an inflated sense of self-importance, bad at communication, emotional AND zero marketable skills = community manager lately.
@Raven27120
@Raven27120 20 күн бұрын
I did think they “deeply apologise” in one of their messages, but a better apology would be nice.
@zach942
@zach942 20 күн бұрын
helldivers has us unifying against a common enemy all the time, this legal front is no different we must liberate helldivers brothers!
@bapbarnes
@bapbarnes 20 күн бұрын
Then why aren't you uniting against arrowhead and their childish antics? Sounds like a witch hunt to me.
@will.roman-ros
@will.roman-ros 20 күн бұрын
​@@bapbarnesyou mean the devs who brought us an original mish-mash of some of our most beloved franchises?
@bapbarnes
@bapbarnes 20 күн бұрын
@@will.roman-ros which wouldn't even be produced and you wouldn't be able to play if not for sony 😂
@copyright-hv6en
@copyright-hv6en 20 күн бұрын
​@bapbarnes yeah, this is strictly sonys fault. Arrowhead had no say for the dsn stuff, so in turn were standing agenst sony
@bapbarnes
@bapbarnes 20 күн бұрын
@@copyright-hv6en then ah should have picked a different company to sign up with, and negotiated their contract to not include it. They've been aware of this fact for much longer than you think, and to hold Sony responsible to something they agreed with much earlier on, is a witch hunt spurned by arrowhead studios. So sorry you don't understand that fact
@Spiceodog
@Spiceodog 20 күн бұрын
If Sony was smart , they’d realize that the best way to get psn’s is to entice us with a reward for doing so. Call it a B class citizenship form , and helldivers that link there account get an exclusive fish bowl or hamster cage in their destroyer . Or maybe just super credits or something.
@MattyJ55046
@MattyJ55046 20 күн бұрын
This is the way
@Dead_Weight21
@Dead_Weight21 20 күн бұрын
Yeah. Could have just incentivized players with things like super credits, exclusive armour, or even minor things like what you mentioned. Shame
@bushturkey798
@bushturkey798 20 күн бұрын
That requires give, Sony just want to take.
@dwarfdigger135
@dwarfdigger135 20 күн бұрын
Consumerism at its finest
@ngVAT579
@ngVAT579 20 күн бұрын
DAM IT! YOU HAD ME AT LIBERTY HAMPSTER!
@Direkt_Xero_Gaming
@Direkt_Xero_Gaming 19 күн бұрын
Spitz responses before doesn’t put a good image for helldivers 2 community managers, their initial response was just very unprofessional and not understanding at all, they need to put their emotions in check and be level headed, if they can’t do something like that then, either fire them or change their role in the department.
@F2P-PVEGacha
@F2P-PVEGacha 19 күн бұрын
@Direkt_Xero_Gaming i 100% Agree, there was no excuse for the way they acted, they know what they’ve signed up for with being community managers, they should act like it. Being hostile and not understanding will not solve anything.
@_OtakunGamer_
@_OtakunGamer_ 19 күн бұрын
@Direkt_Xero_Gaming i hate how there isn’t any consequences given for Spitz previous action, If you cut people slack they’ll never learn, when they apologize, it isn’t for what they had done but because they got caught.
@iGameOnEveryPlatform
@iGameOnEveryPlatform 19 күн бұрын
@Direkt_Xero_Gaming Since there are no consequences for their actions, they’ll just keep on treating us players like children and ignore a lot of the actual valid issues and problems when we are conferring with some of these community managers.
@iGameOnEveryPlatform
@iGameOnEveryPlatform 19 күн бұрын
@@_OtakunGamer_ ​​⁠ i think Spitz doesn’t clearly understand the gravity of the situation at all, that there are a lot of countries that can’t make a PSN account legally, and even if they use a VPN they’ll get banned, just look at Asmongold previous stream, he shows in his stream how other countries who can’t make an account use a VPN and sony just straight up banned them. Even stylosa have said this on his previous video that you’ll get banned for using a VPN and using fake credentials or have untrue details on it.
@_OtakunGamer_
@_OtakunGamer_ 19 күн бұрын
Also why is it that when a normal employee does what Spitz did to their consumers, players or customers they get automatically fired or their role is demoted, but when a community manager does it it’s just a slap on the wrist or ignored?
@AbeliDaBee
@AbeliDaBee 20 күн бұрын
It's really a shame. I intended on buying Helldivers 2 next time it had a sale. I'm gonna go back to my funny dwarf game.
@Andyisgodcky
@Andyisgodcky 20 күн бұрын
This is what Spitz was trying to tell us yesterday but given he had likely been getting harrassed all morning, he failed to word it correctly. The message IS the same if you think about it: Sony won't read the HD2 discord, they'll only react to refunds and negative reviews.
@jaytom6710
@jaytom6710 20 күн бұрын
Spitz should be fired he's an asshole and needs to not attack players
@unbiasedrelic5287
@unbiasedrelic5287 20 күн бұрын
@@jaytom6710 I think he was trying to get us to refund the game by being an asshole
@linusgustafsson2629
@linusgustafsson2629 20 күн бұрын
@@unbiasedrelic5287 I doubt anyone would ever do that. Being an asshole is just natural behavior by assholes.
@futuretrunks9257
@futuretrunks9257 20 күн бұрын
⁠@@jaytom6710Are you serious? Do you prefer a corporate bot to message us instead? Stop being so emotional, Spitz is the most open community communicator I’ve ever seen for gaming, your just soft as shit
@unbiasedrelic5287
@unbiasedrelic5287 20 күн бұрын
@@linusgustafsson2629 true though since his massive change in Behavior from yesterday to today that I thought that might be the case but then again they were talking to him about that
@TheForever206
@TheForever206 20 күн бұрын
The game had around 99000 negative reviews when I checked last night.
@corwinclark3267
@corwinclark3267 20 күн бұрын
140k now
@BrianHopson
@BrianHopson 20 күн бұрын
​@@corwinclark3267 Damn, I'm going to leave a negative when I'm done with work.
@corwinclark3267
@corwinclark3267 20 күн бұрын
@@BrianHopson it is the current major order after all...
@Daki25
@Daki25 20 күн бұрын
​@@BrianHopsonSame.
@kaptaink1235
@kaptaink1235 20 күн бұрын
@@corwinclark3267for real?
@AverageAnimeEnjoyer1
@AverageAnimeEnjoyer1 20 күн бұрын
Wouldnt Changing your ToS in the middle of something like this to fit what you need be breaking a law?
@thomasp506
@thomasp506 20 күн бұрын
They actually said you needed a PSN account from the the beginning, it just wasn't being enforced until now. It's still a pain, but they haven't actually changed anything about the agreement.
@GoGicz
@GoGicz 20 күн бұрын
@@thomasp506 well they did change the EULA from nothing about having to link anything ever at all to "some games require you to link" not to mention in the steam front itself it says two conflicting things because it was required but then "supports linking" like that implies you don't rquire linking of anything and of course lastly they never really said it black on white, rather they were very silent about it so people buy the game and then can't refund after the 2 hours.
@thomasp506
@thomasp506 20 күн бұрын
@@GoGicz That was the FAQ they changed
@GoGicz
@GoGicz 20 күн бұрын
@@thomasp506 not the FAQ but straight EULA, some madlad actually read through all of that.
@bewawolf19
@bewawolf19 19 күн бұрын
@@thomasp506 A FAQ on a website hosted by them with it being written on it being official isn't something you can just disregard either. Official statements made by representatives of the corporations are official statements.
@StuckTrippin
@StuckTrippin 20 күн бұрын
I dont agree that arrowhead is just without blame here. They knew when they shut off the account linking 36 hours after release, that it would be turned back on at some point. Not once did they ever mention it in 4 months.
@simpleman3044
@simpleman3044 19 күн бұрын
Well it was optional as all games with psn. But Sony tried to make it mandatory on the fly which is the problem.
@dessertlimbo
@dessertlimbo 19 күн бұрын
it literally said its not mandatory and was used as a way for someone to save their progress across pc and console and now they're forcing them to make it mandatory? Arrowheads hands are bound by contract unless sony decides to undo ot they cant do anything until then
@SimianBastard
@SimianBastard 19 күн бұрын
The CEO agrees with you "I do have a part to play. I am not blameless in all of this - it was my decision to disable account linking at launch so that players could play the game. I did not ensure players were aware of the requirement and we didn't talk about it enough."
@StuckTrippin
@StuckTrippin 19 күн бұрын
@@dessertlimbo this aged hilariously, CEO admits today it was always supposed to be psn mandatory. Told ya
@StuckTrippin
@StuckTrippin 19 күн бұрын
@@simpleman3044 what's optional is a psn to play the game. You can play other pc games without psn. But to use a multiplayer only game on psn services, you need a psn. They didn't just change things, as admitted by the CEO today
@Vadim_Ibragimov
@Vadim_Ibragimov 20 күн бұрын
Thank you for not closing your eyes to this problem and supporting us, players from "wrong" countries. Helldivers 2 community is actually the best part of this game
@thedarksideofgaming8834
@thedarksideofgaming8834 20 күн бұрын
If this guy is leaving, I’m leaving too! All Divers or None!
@9unslin9er
@9unslin9er 20 күн бұрын
We've got your back.
@angryzergling7832
@angryzergling7832 20 күн бұрын
You may be from the wrong country, but you're still a citizen of Super Earth! And I stand by my fellow citizens.
@tired8788
@tired8788 19 күн бұрын
/Helldiver hug
@isaacwellborn
@isaacwellborn 19 күн бұрын
When you don't get kicked for no reason, I agree!
@Daki25
@Daki25 20 күн бұрын
Sony's biggest mistake was taking an army of organised space soldiers for obedient cattle. Let's hope the message gets through.
@Luckmann
@Luckmann 20 күн бұрын
Given that the same "army of space soldiers" happily accepted rootkit spyware DRM that only existed to protect a corporate monetization model, the assumption that they are obedient cattle that clap on command is a pretty solid one, honestly.
@Subpar1O1
@Subpar1O1 20 күн бұрын
We ARE obedient cattle, but only for SUPER EAAARTH!!!
@Tenchua917
@Tenchua917 20 күн бұрын
Its like taking away the freedom from helldivers, thats not how we do things around these parts
@masters4good
@masters4good 20 күн бұрын
We all need to send them a massage... Democracy is a will of the people and it's not for mandatory requirements
@avroarchitect1793
@avroarchitect1793 20 күн бұрын
Self organized freedom spreading soldiers
@tatepatrick3095
@tatepatrick3095 19 күн бұрын
It’s nice to see that there’s some actual people in corporations who are trying to do the right thing
@onatgz
@onatgz 20 күн бұрын
while security concerns and psn not being available world wide are huge and valid points, it's not even about that. you can't change the rules after the purchase. that's not how trading works. never has been. we've agreed upon this as a species thousands of years ago.
@Sphendrana
@Sphendrana 19 күн бұрын
Legit isn't even about security. This is Sony wanting to artificially boost their numbers to show shareholders "hey, we grew, give us money!"
@jilliandarr412
@jilliandarr412 20 күн бұрын
I actually went to finally buy the game today after my paycheck and saw all the reviews on steam about the psn update and decided to wait. Talk about a sad let down.
@NYKIKE
@NYKIKE 20 күн бұрын
Leave a review on the game as a customer that was pushed away
@franciscoriccio51
@franciscoriccio51 20 күн бұрын
Leave an review and then request a refund
@vipertoxic8593
@vipertoxic8593 20 күн бұрын
While it sucks imagine spending money that you will never see again so i guess still a bit better
@oopomopoo
@oopomopoo 20 күн бұрын
Entirely up to you but it is a hecking fun game. I'm taking a break till Sony chooses correct but just want to add that the fun factor is still 20/10
@LCInfantry
@LCInfantry 20 күн бұрын
Just create an account really quick and instal the game. Greatness awaits! Ignore the drama lol, life is too short
@johniron7269
@johniron7269 20 күн бұрын
One way to fix IT: 1. apologize 2. Make IT optional 3. Give Players who want to sign Up a juciy reward Like 1000-2000 Supercredits
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 20 күн бұрын
This. Sign if u want cross play.
@YipeekayHarasho
@YipeekayHarasho 20 күн бұрын
Super Credits seriously? U might as well give them a cloak printed with a PS logo😂
@Yaboivit
@Yaboivit 20 күн бұрын
Apologize and remove that shit. They already fucked up and hurt the game and community. It is irreversable.
@momcatapult2362
@momcatapult2362 20 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing psn cosmetic or somthing for people who want or already have a psn fully optional
@RaySolus
@RaySolus 20 күн бұрын
The first 2 yes the super credits nah I don't want their pity fake currency this isn't some gacha game and make them think "oh just give them some bs credits and they will stay quite" as a precedent
@fian9
@fian9 20 күн бұрын
I love how they could have just been like connect your PSN account and get a free armor set and medals.
@emeraldbonsai
@emeraldbonsai 19 күн бұрын
Yeah if they gave like 200 free medals and 100 normal samples and 50 medium samples i wouldve done it in a heart beat
@djdog-12hill98
@djdog-12hill98 20 күн бұрын
PSN is nuking their own fan base. They are literally fumbling the ball on two very popular games. The lies and false advertising needs to stop Sony needs to be held accountable. Console platform is going to be destroyed due to poor management
@user-if4zv5nj5m
@user-if4zv5nj5m 19 күн бұрын
I can't imagine how the hell decisions are made in sony. I work in a big Russian IT corpo. If someone here would've done something like that, he would've been punished and the changes reverted in a day or two. How the hell can somebody inside sony still push towards this change pretending there's nothing happening
@Grom76300
@Grom76300 20 күн бұрын
We thought the third front would be the Illuminates, but it's Sony instead and we didn't need for a major order to coordinate a response >: (
@Basthor_1
@Basthor_1 20 күн бұрын
and the security excuse is pure bullshit, this is to increase numbers to show at the next shareholders meeting, look at all the new PSN users, how disgusting these people are.
@OrgusDin
@OrgusDin 20 күн бұрын
People is honestly a really strong word.
@tubetorpedo
@tubetorpedo 20 күн бұрын
Especially talking about security and Sony in same sentence, unless the sentence is "Sony's security is crap".
@giannihenk
@giannihenk 20 күн бұрын
I was planning on buying the game this weekend because I got my salary today, then I saw the RED recent negative reviews, and decided not to buy it yet. guess I´m doing my part. I don´t even have a psn account. didn´t know what that was untill just half an hour ago. hell I don´t even have a play station
@silasstryder
@silasstryder 19 күн бұрын
They reversed their decision! You won't have to create a PSN account now! Major order completed everyone! Great work!!
@Cameron.ae08
@Cameron.ae08 20 күн бұрын
It’s 100% to fatten the pockets of the 1%. They get to talk about the “boom of new PSN accounts this quarter, great work team! Millions for us and fuck the fans ammirirght or ammirright?”
@kesamek8537
@kesamek8537 20 күн бұрын
Actually it's to use all your Steam data to feed Sony AI.
@Gee-bg2rv
@Gee-bg2rv 20 күн бұрын
@@kesamek8537probably for both things
@alekjanowski9847
@alekjanowski9847 20 күн бұрын
@@kesamek8537 Which gets breached fuckin yearly! Wonderful :D
@LCInfantry
@LCInfantry 20 күн бұрын
All haul Sony! All hail Sony!
@pffboahkeineahnung
@pffboahkeineahnung 20 күн бұрын
and maaaaaaybe they wanted to push their ps+ and so on...also data sells are great for companies
@ceballos-exe
@ceballos-exe 20 күн бұрын
We were trained to fight as a community and god damn it, we will make good use of that training on every front
@browhatwhere
@browhatwhere 19 күн бұрын
i like that, stay diving helldiver!
@ottovonbismarck7094
@ottovonbismarck7094 20 күн бұрын
Spitz is uniquely thrown more shit because he’s a god awful CM, it amazes me that after he deleted the HD1 discord he’s still employed, he just keeps shit stiring
@IsmaelHernandez-wg8tl
@IsmaelHernandez-wg8tl 20 күн бұрын
That community manager not being immediately fired is a good sign of the future.
@Razalghul777
@Razalghul777 19 күн бұрын
He’s probably a gay,lesbian or black diversity hire that they need to tip toe around
@AWARHERO
@AWARHERO 20 күн бұрын
Level 78 over 300+ hours. Asked for a refund this morning! FOR LIBERTY from SONY! Next Major Order: Defend AH office from Sony's Automatons.
@BrutalButtSlap
@BrutalButtSlap 20 күн бұрын
if u get it pls paste to me your request and how you did it, I was off for the last Warbond (bougth and unlocked most of it) life and all that, now when I come back this is REQUIRED, fck me and was planing on farming for next warbond. I amost 90 with 300h also :(
@Damaged7
@Damaged7 20 күн бұрын
Imagine being so entield that after using a service for 300+ hours you demand a refund because you don't understand basic facts of a situation.. I'm sure your parents must be proud.
@MajorGeneralWoff
@MajorGeneralWoff 20 күн бұрын
@@Damaged7 How that bootlicking taste?
@Capt.Crack420
@Capt.Crack420 20 күн бұрын
Found the Sony automoton​@@Damaged7
@vipertoxic8593
@vipertoxic8593 20 күн бұрын
@@MajorGeneralWoffim sure it tastes discusting but they have thyer head so far up sony asses that yeah they cant tell puke and shit apart
@hsujonathan5221
@hsujonathan5221 20 күн бұрын
They could have just given out cool in-game stuff for signing up PSN as a promotion, but sweet liberty noooo~~. all they want is to please their shareholders with the active PSN counts in the quarterly financial report.
@nonosetradome
@nonosetradome 20 күн бұрын
They've lost over 100,000 at this point, and that's just the game itself. A lot of people who play on playstation are not gonna be on playstation for much longer. I'm switching to PC a lot sooner now
@PaulK-ep4ng
@PaulK-ep4ng 20 күн бұрын
So you'll link for a reward but wont because it don't benefit you? 😂😂😂😂
@alekjanowski9847
@alekjanowski9847 20 күн бұрын
@@nonosetradome Welcome to the team brotha! If you want there are good games here + older games + F2P games etc. etc. ;)
@nonosetradome
@nonosetradome 20 күн бұрын
@alekjanowski9847 ayy! Plus mods and all the extra VR games. Only problem is money, selling the ps should help lol
@Alex996FR
@Alex996FR 20 күн бұрын
I would have 100% created a PSN account for a free something ... Forcing people to do whatever they want like they are doing now is unacceptable in so many ways. Moreover, it is most likely illegal, but hey, it's a videogame, who gonna fight SONY ? 🙃 I'm so fed up of those shitty moves
@Bipolar_Expedition
@Bipolar_Expedition 19 күн бұрын
Sony caved and reversed the requirement... According to their Twitter account.
@DublinOdinson
@DublinOdinson 20 күн бұрын
On a Saturday afternoon steam charts show only 87k players. It is the first time there as been less than 100k since Helldivers 2 launched with a all time peak of 458k players.
@shieldphaser
@shieldphaser 20 күн бұрын
They could've just left it alone and been happy with a good chunk of the PC playerbase linking it voluntarily. Instead we have this, which will all but ensure that anyone who does it voluntarily will be ridiculed for it.
@kurogane2x
@kurogane2x 20 күн бұрын
They could have literally just introduced a good fucking reward for the PC playerbase to link a PSN account, but sadly business bros are literal greed incarnate
@xXAkitokunXx
@xXAkitokunXx 20 күн бұрын
Could’ve done if you link you get something if not then leave it
@TygerTyger911
@TygerTyger911 20 күн бұрын
Why would anyone who willingly did it be subject to ridicule? What if it was an inconsequential requirement for them? What if they already own a PS5 and so it's not a big deal to them?
@doxorn
@doxorn 20 күн бұрын
Imagine if you'd get just 100 Super Credit for linking your Steam account to your PSN account. There would be a lot of players who would link it willingly without any drama and while keeping the positive reviews.
@Rafael_Fuchs
@Rafael_Fuchs 20 күн бұрын
@@TygerTyger911 Because the idea is now tainted. It's no different than relationships. Forcing something onto someone, then backpedaling, and offering to pay them to do it, does not make people feel better. Quite the opposite. It's insult to injury.
@OneBiasedOpinion
@OneBiasedOpinion 20 күн бұрын
Sony has a literal golden egg-laying goose of a game, and they're trying to cut it open in hopes of getting all the eggs at once. Never, EVER let greed run your business. This is what happens otherwise.
@Venalii1
@Venalii1 20 күн бұрын
8:00 you hit the nail right on the head, and that’s where companies go wrong. Greed has become the enemy of so many art forms, when something is shown to be doing well, that’s just not enough for publishers. They need to make MORE money from it, find ways to advertise other games for more money. It’s why studios are so afraid to take risks and make creative games. We helldivers need to take a stand here and say no, we aren’t going to allow this greed to continue and ruin one of the best games of the decade.
@jackbruno4748
@jackbruno4748 20 күн бұрын
If Sony makes it optional and just remove crossplay for people that don't link PSN accounts. I'll be fine. The way they are being slimy with swapping their wording on their site really took the cake for me.
@korebeast973
@korebeast973 20 күн бұрын
It's not just about living in a place that doesn't have legal PSN access. But it's about how for the last 18 years, since it's construction, PSN has had a major leak of all info every 18 months. Every year and a half PSN gives away credit card, name, password, registry, gameplay, hours, every single data breach leaks these things. Every year and a half.
@yassenwessam2162
@yassenwessam2162 20 күн бұрын
The higher ups don't care . All that they care about is how to monetize their content by using ways that increase the risk of someone getting hacked and instead of finding the way to solve it they make sure that you can't do anything about it by using the agreement on their questionable terms of service .
@Brikiboi69
@Brikiboi69 20 күн бұрын
True
@Morbak546
@Morbak546 20 күн бұрын
I think we could tank those stats even further by not playing at all. Not until the problem is resolved
@ncgrave4586
@ncgrave4586 20 күн бұрын
at this point in time, barely 95,000 are playing on a SATURDAY. yeah, there are people boycotting this change. it sucks for AH but this should help the effort. PS players probably aren't gonna help because they have already been wrapped into it but who knows? this community is pretty strong.
@MIAPhilly
@MIAPhilly 20 күн бұрын
Not playing and not buying it is the ULTIMATE statement. Nothing moves a company like profit loss. PS5 players have no dog in the fight and will/ should continue to play.
@TPixelAdventures
@TPixelAdventures 20 күн бұрын
We're currently looking at a drop of ~100k players during peak hours. It's quite a significant movement on the needle that Sony cannot possibly ignore.
@RoyGeebins
@RoyGeebins 20 күн бұрын
@@MIAPhilly unless they care and want to contribute. I have nothing against them at all if they keep playing and ignore all this bs bc it isn't on them at all. But saying they should/shouldn't do anything is stupid. If they want to push back with us then why shouldn't they?
@LitlBlackDragonNinja
@LitlBlackDragonNinja 20 күн бұрын
I have just logged on to change armor but have not started a single mission since yesterday. If enough people do it, Sony will have to back away from this decision. The alternative is to risk alienating a lot of the players.
@marvin7383
@marvin7383 20 күн бұрын
Now we'll show you the indomitable spirit of the Helldivers, Sony.
@rabidbadger5260
@rabidbadger5260 20 күн бұрын
Great vid, I could feel the passion from you. However, I'm still sceptical about Arrowhead. They did make the deal with Sony and while we won't get to see the contract they signed, it's very likely they knew this may be coming down the line. And Spitz's treatment of fans was disgusting.
@moisesmunguiafalloutmoises112
@moisesmunguiafalloutmoises112 20 күн бұрын
As commander of the SES Founding Father of Liberty, I have given my resignation as I do wish to spend time with my family in the civilian life and for my friend. If my friend is going down, so will I. I am very thankful for my service and doing my part for Super Earth, But I think it's about time I receive an honorable discharge. Long live Super Earth.
@MrXTREME232
@MrXTREME232 20 күн бұрын
My Super Destroyer, SES Flame of Selfless Service will be decommissioned until this undemocratic requirement is removed. I will be spending more time in my civilian life due to this.
@vipertoxic8593
@vipertoxic8593 20 күн бұрын
Helldiver Vipertoxic85 here super destroyer ses flames of justice will be decomisioned till further notice Causes : automatons have hacked super earths capital and instaled on all devices the SONY malwere
@TheFightingLady-ks3qr
@TheFightingLady-ks3qr 20 күн бұрын
Captain of the SES Lady of Dawn here, we’ll keep fighting the good fight until the automaton sabotage hits our ship or keep trucking along if we can fight it off. We’ll fight with our brothers and sisters whose Sưper Destroyers will be permanently damaged if the sabotage is successful and we’ll go down with them. Godspeed gentlemen, let’s fight for Super Earth until we can’t!
@vipertoxic8593
@vipertoxic8593 20 күн бұрын
@@TheFightingLady-ks3qr god speed you magnificent bastard !
@user-hi5eh2fr5w
@user-hi5eh2fr5w 20 күн бұрын
The Fist of Family Values concurs.
@0TheWomboCombo
@0TheWomboCombo 20 күн бұрын
I'm not uploading my ID & Face (requirement in my country) to a service (PSN) that is well-known for having multiple massive data-breaches. I mean, that's Government-backed proof that I am me. Imagine what people can do if they get hold of that? Can't believe this was pulled on people that can't create PSN accounts in their country.. How was the game not region-locked for this reason? So, all those people paid for a product that they now can't play or REFUND? Absolutely baffled as to how this is okay.
@RottieGuy1980
@RottieGuy1980 20 күн бұрын
what country?? I'm curious
@ReacorArK
@ReacorArK 20 күн бұрын
@@RottieGuy1980 there is a list at 3:48 that shows most or all countries that can't make a PSN account
@RottieGuy1980
@RottieGuy1980 20 күн бұрын
@@ReacorArK ??? He's saying he lives in a country where you have to provide Gov ID for PSN and I asked what country, not the countries where you can't get a psn, learn how to read basic English
@0TheWomboCombo
@0TheWomboCombo 20 күн бұрын
@@RottieGuy1980 No need to be like that my guy! People make mistakes 😅 The last paragraph would've been the last thing he read Maybe too many 30second videos? 😉 The United Kingdom is your answer
@TheSlothfulSamurai
@TheSlothfulSamurai 20 күн бұрын
​@@RottieGuy1980 It's a UK thing and a few EU countries
@pacmanmt21
@pacmanmt21 19 күн бұрын
Devs encouraging players to tank the reviews on the game they made to use as leverage against Sony is incredible. What an amazing developer team.
@mathieugirod6485
@mathieugirod6485 20 күн бұрын
Good to hear but also annoying that they don't talk much about the peps that ARE in a region covered by the PSN but simply don't want to sign in... Yes it was present from the start but it was also presented as optionnal both in game and on the sony website (see at 3:07 on the vid). And no, i would not have continued past the account linking part if it was the case... i didn't buy Grounded for the very same reason.
@Bombsuitsandkilts
@Bombsuitsandkilts 20 күн бұрын
Personal Order - "Change your Steam review, and make your displeasure known on a platform that matters"
@ItsJavaJawa
@ItsJavaJawa 20 күн бұрын
Nah it's a major order
@tubetorpedo
@tubetorpedo 20 күн бұрын
Yup, did yesterday. That game is over unless something changes.
@LoweredLine
@LoweredLine 20 күн бұрын
*Major order* straight from high command
@bloodbach4986
@bloodbach4986 20 күн бұрын
I dont want this to be optional just for PSN-less countries,i want it to be optional for everyone
@zackkirako8574
@zackkirako8574 19 күн бұрын
Sony has reversed their Decision. Long Live Super Earth!
@nightfaller1383
@nightfaller1383 19 күн бұрын
Another thing that could be given a look into for the community is the consumer goods movement for video games
@BGB1983
@BGB1983 20 күн бұрын
I'm a PS5 player and I'm fully behind our PC brothers and sisters. If Sony doesn't back peddle, my 330 hours of game time will stop. Sony can go swivel and PS+ will be downgraded on renewal.
@diabeticmonkey
@diabeticmonkey 20 күн бұрын
Your solidarity should be rewarded!
@jrisplayerone
@jrisplayerone 20 күн бұрын
I agree that it should be optional to link PSN to steam.
@Day_Chap
@Day_Chap 19 күн бұрын
Would be great if games stopped requiring us to have multiple log ins, and DRM installed just to play. Those players already have a steam account to log in with, they don't "need" a second login.
@bFRSTBTd
@bFRSTBTd 20 күн бұрын
We need a major order video with the details and then a steam link
@Faminetheblack
@Faminetheblack 20 күн бұрын
They really saw tarkov and were like " We can do that too"
@logantme
@logantme 19 күн бұрын
Omgg real
@AgeofJP
@AgeofJP 20 күн бұрын
jesus christ...just make it optional and give players who link their psn accounts a good amount of super credits. Had they done that from the start people would've linked up in droves and there'd probably be no backlash at all
@alekjanowski9847
@alekjanowski9847 20 күн бұрын
Not even credits! Just make something like armor set, or exclusive gun for PSN sign in! Like with yoghurt armor for the Super Citizen bundle!
@Vigilante80085
@Vigilante80085 20 күн бұрын
Not true. A big part of the problem is data breaches and the fact that I’m signing up for something which takes a facial scan and my id in my country. Also the fact I do not own anything PlayStation therefore I don’t want a psn accoun
@Splaffy-0-
@Splaffy-0- 20 күн бұрын
​@@Vigilante80085 which is why if it was optional there would be almost no backlash.
@N7warrior007
@N7warrior007 20 күн бұрын
The fact Sony said some games implies more than helldivers is gonna get this change, arrowhead is just the only ones telling us first
@AgeofJP
@AgeofJP 20 күн бұрын
@@Vigilante80085 that's why optional...that way they'd get a huge increase in psn users (not as much as they hoped to, but a more realistic still very high amount) and the ones that can't or absolutely refuse to sign up for various understandable reasons simply don't have to...if you're ready to abandon the game over this, I'm sure you would much rather have a way to not support sony and still play the game.
@joshuamarquez6875
@joshuamarquez6875 20 күн бұрын
If Sony just had arrowhead add an armor set or weapon that you get from linking a psn account they would still get so many sign ups but they had to get greedy
@serath5878
@serath5878 20 күн бұрын
@Stylosa - I feel bad for you man, I followed you since you started covering OW initially.. I was happy to see how you transitioned into a new game and able to stay alive, now Helldivers if dying due to Sony. I o7 you.
@kaptaink1235
@kaptaink1235 20 күн бұрын
Pray that you current helldivers and those who want to play this game can actually make Sony back off and let arrowhead make A FUN GAME. The whole PSN idea is terrible, steam does a fine job when it comes to reporting people and we the community will not stand those who’re just trying to fill their pockets with even more money.
@OrgusDin
@OrgusDin 20 күн бұрын
Steam is already massively jannied and aggressively part of the leftist cult that hates reality and life, it's bad enough without soyny.
@RaZeyLWindBladE
@RaZeyLWindBladE 20 күн бұрын
They had the chance to UNITE the player base allowing the game to be played on Xbox. But instead they united the playerbase AGAINST them. Its so stupid.
@MIAPhilly
@MIAPhilly 20 күн бұрын
If Sony sees this game as a console mover they will postpone or outright deny it on xbox.
@alekjanowski9847
@alekjanowski9847 20 күн бұрын
@@MIAPhilly Then they could've done nothing and win, but NO!
@MIAPhilly
@MIAPhilly 20 күн бұрын
@@alekjanowski9847 agreed, I see this as nothing more than a way to boost shares for the stockholders. Nothing trumps money, NOTHING.
@alekjanowski9847
@alekjanowski9847 20 күн бұрын
@@MIAPhilly Do you also believe that Shareholders are like damn ticks? Hard to remove + give games cancer?
@will.roman-ros
@will.roman-ros 20 күн бұрын
​@@MIAPhillythey don't actually make more though. GTA V went beyond player expectations: that's why it made over a billion a year. How's Halo Infinite? I completely boycotted that w my friends. I don't think it did as well as it could if such hardcore fans didn't touch it - as if it were a plague.
@fluoxvonhoovienheimer4706
@fluoxvonhoovienheimer4706 20 күн бұрын
NEW MAJOR ORDER: push the Sony front back and regain liberty of lost players REWARD: keep all players and prevent PSN account requirement
@joshholland9473
@joshholland9473 20 күн бұрын
For cross play games I thought linking account was so you didn't have to make a new account to play on another device. Never knew it could be a requirement
@3ssenti4L
@3ssenti4L 20 күн бұрын
The PSN Terms of Service is straight up authoritarian.
@TheSpartan_777
@TheSpartan_777 20 күн бұрын
“Banned for being rude to an employee” I lol’d soy boy era
@joecoastie99
@joecoastie99 20 күн бұрын
Well, I mean, they’re Japanese. If you know anything about the history of Japan………
@zm1786
@zm1786 20 күн бұрын
@@joecoastie99 they're Californian now
@Zipzaph
@Zipzaph 20 күн бұрын
@@joecoastie99 They have nothing to do with Japan at this point because they are in California. Also Sony censors all the Japanese visual novels (lewd or not) when Nintendo the family friendly platform doesn't . So Sony at this point is just another American company.
@tubetorpedo
@tubetorpedo 20 күн бұрын
@@TheSpartan_777 Especially so when in practice it's Sony who decides which is rude and which is not. Like I could decide here in the comments who is rude and ban their YT accounts based on that.
@jasonburke9144
@jasonburke9144 20 күн бұрын
Someone needs to create a post and title it, New Major Order: Operation Reversal - Email bombard Sony's customer support. Leave negative reviews of the game on steam, etc.
@dinko4711
@dinko4711 19 күн бұрын
I started playing this game literally 3 days ago and in the first few hours i met so many good people that were so kind to teach me. So i feel connected to this community and the only thing i think is this: if everybody cant dive no one will
@JudgeLazar
@JudgeLazar 20 күн бұрын
I'll settle for disabling crossplay for people who don't link accounts, nothing less. I will never at any point link my Steam account to anything to do with Sony.
@alexdevastator3430
@alexdevastator3430 20 күн бұрын
Arrowhead as well as the community is fighting against this Automaton Sony!
@kesamek8537
@kesamek8537 20 күн бұрын
Arrowhead is not your friend.
@brandonvelde5774
@brandonvelde5774 20 күн бұрын
*Destroy the Snoy*
@sirpieman300
@sirpieman300 20 күн бұрын
@@kesamek8537 There more of a friend then Sony or a rando on the internet atm
@rapid_rivers3294
@rapid_rivers3294 19 күн бұрын
neither are you obviously ​@@kesamek8537
@pehenry
@pehenry 20 күн бұрын
Totally agree. If "banning griefers" was the thing, then everybody would have understood, because they would have had a negative experience with a griefer. I don't like the idea of "banning" players either.
@evanhuizenga8626
@evanhuizenga8626 20 күн бұрын
Yeah I have experienced only one griefer in my 250 hours of gameplay. We don't need your dystopian AI combing through our voice chat logs, Sony.
@ZetaArcticana4006
@ZetaArcticana4006 20 күн бұрын
@@evanhuizenga8626especially with the amount of satire in the game, messages of people playing along with it will almost certainly get flagged.
@crackededge9351
@crackededge9351 20 күн бұрын
@@LCInfantryThey can ban them through Steam, it’s not a difficult process 😂 no PSN account linking required, this is just a case of corporate greed ruining a game with a lot of traction
@tubetorpedo
@tubetorpedo 20 күн бұрын
Especially so when people already have ability to block people they have encountered who they do not like. My personal experience from playing ~200h there has been miniscule amount of actual aholes I have encountered in the game. E.g. one person who deliberately seemed to kill others and they left in middle of match anyway and few times I've been kicked out e.g. upon joining, but those it's hard to say what the actual reason has been.
@LCInfantry
@LCInfantry 20 күн бұрын
@@crackededge9351 Sony can ban a steam player IP?
@ntomnia585
@ntomnia585 20 күн бұрын
3:43 Good timing. Looked like that gun blew up the area for a second.
@braddouglas6755
@braddouglas6755 20 күн бұрын
I feel this video may need to be archived to paraphrase a textbook example of successful rallying against big corporate poor decision making. I know its too soon either way, but the communication showcase is a feat to behold.
@iceyzetyez
@iceyzetyez 20 күн бұрын
"What are you in for ?.I made an illegal PSN account."
@Klimawandel20
@Klimawandel20 20 күн бұрын
if they just made it optional and connected a small ingame reward of e.g. ingame currency to it, this whole shitstorm would have been obsolete. big companies just have no idea how to handle moves like this. they really think the customers are dumb and their greed for money blinds their eyes.
@NeowMeow
@NeowMeow 20 күн бұрын
They arent exactly wrong. Customers as a whole are pretty dumb... theres a reason "fighting with your wallet" doesnt really matter anymore when they can just get 20k from a few thousand people or the people who say "I dont pay for membership, I get the ingame thing for it" or "I dont spend any money" but are heavily involved in the premium currency regardless, both of which are typically giving them even more money than if you just paid directly because someone is buying these things and its typically more expensive.
@justv7536
@justv7536 19 күн бұрын
Ghost Ship Publishing are really good. I like them. Because they're not a mega-corporation. They have tangible people at the helm.
@mullerbotelho
@mullerbotelho 20 күн бұрын
CM also said that if we didn't like the change we could ask for a refund and put negative reviews on Steam, as long as this woman is CM I don't play Helldivers 2 anymore...she spat in our face and wants to go back now, that's a shame
@JamesF0790
@JamesF0790 19 күн бұрын
It's that refunding and negative reviews that have gotten it reversed
@nighthunter3039
@nighthunter3039 18 күн бұрын
@mullerbitelho I think she did that in the mocking way to get around Sony guidelines. The refunds and negative reviews is what got Sony to reverse it.
@Ace11Sky
@Ace11Sky 20 күн бұрын
If they went "Hey new accounts past May 30th need a PSN account. Existing accounts can link to a PSN account for a free 1000 supercredits enough for a premium warbond, and a free armor set, but it's optional". This would have resulted in more people linking PSN accounts overall with little to no backlash. People who bought the game without the ability to make a PSN account could still play, and anyone not wanting a PSN for their own reasons Valid or not could avoid doing so. It also gives an incentive to link that many people would agree to. Its about the best compromise I can see. Ideally, we wouldn't have a PSN requirement at all, but I don't see that happening. I would be happy to be pleasantly surprised.
@vanher282
@vanher282 20 күн бұрын
All they had to is to clearly communicate since day 1. Why there is no reddit/discord post or in-game message that PSN requirement is just temporary disabled. Why they sold the game where it's against ToS to create an account? Also can I start over with just PSN account without it sharing data of my steam account?
@StanleyKubick1
@StanleyKubick1 20 күн бұрын
it's amazing how actual rewards incentivise people
@DuncanWilliams-cx9px
@DuncanWilliams-cx9px 20 күн бұрын
Where can i leave a bad review regarding this situation I'm on console but I want to help the effort as well
@GhostLink92
@GhostLink92 20 күн бұрын
I would imagine on the PSN store page. I don't know, I don't have a PS5
@Nfam0us
@Nfam0us 20 күн бұрын
Contact your local democracy officer
@alekjanowski9847
@alekjanowski9847 20 күн бұрын
Could set up an account on Steam via Mobile, but the sheer fact you want to help is already enough for the most of us! :D
@ToddWatchingStuff
@ToddWatchingStuff 19 күн бұрын
they should just keep it optional, then provide like a bonus item for linking like a lot of other games do, if you link them you get a special cape or something, if its really about driving numbers and getting data
@OO_00H
@OO_00H 20 күн бұрын
I could link it but like you said I played it yesterday amidst all this and idk it just felt off it wasn't fun for the first time like I played it to finish my 3 but I didn't even read the major order I just played it and it felt off
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