Helldivers 2 - Why you get Kicked isn't because of META

Helldivers 2 - Why you get Kicked isn't because of META
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[@victornguyen1175]

Monster Hunter figured out this kicking problem generations ago. If you get kicked, the only thing that should happen is that you get seamlessly sent to your own instance of the mission (without being able to quit and rejoin because farming is a thing). It's such a simple, elegant solution.

[@Raikos100]

Yeah, being kicked when you did like 50% of the objectives by yourself while your teammates are struggling with a swarm sucks. They blame you for not "helping" but they just wasting time on something pointless. Now losing all my progress is, ugh

[@D3adCl0wn]

Same thing with the host logging off on the last leg of a campaign while on the destroyer. Missing those medals in the last mission sucks, especially when you all did the first two for almost an hour and a half. Work around currently is to ask the host if he wants to hop off and send us in mission before he quits.

[@someone-ji2zb]

@@Raikos100Well to be fair, that is also apart of the questionable design of the game in the higher difficulties. The reality is that running and despawning between objectives segments is, by far, the best way to win. It just isn't as enjoyable as blasting things. Now that we know how spawning truly works and how the "heat" system works, it highlights how poor the spawn design truly is, when deal with enemies doesn't even lower the heatmap even a tiny bit (also worth noting combat does not increase it).

[@cjallenroxs6239]

Fuck no IDGAF if I get kicked but don’t punish me by making me do a mission because yall the ones that can’t fucking handle it

[@sleepshouter5017]

That, and there should be a vote to kick poll system rather than whoever is host has full power to kick anyone whenever they want. That’s an extremely basic system most PvE games like this have I mean come on…

[@Khatz507]

the strat i use to not get kicked: >i create a lobby >i put it on public >i play with the ppl who joins and have a good time

[@TheIvanMilky]

Man that is a great idea but where's the bit where I get to feel like the world's is against me so I can go cry about it on the internet to strangers (probably to feel more significant)?

[@ultimater8700]

I host almost every game I want to play. And when I am the one who join others, I play their rules.

[@sventomasek]

The problem is that there's a bug that makes it so you have to restart your game otherwise no one can join and it usually happens to me after playing one mission. And people usually leave after one mission so unless I want to play solo I have to restart.

[@Pikmin012]

You forgot step 4 >players can't kick so they ragequit until matchmaking breaks and your lobby becomes unjoinable.

[@SuperCatacata]

@@ultimater8700 Basic manners. Their house, their rules.

[@icemanhernandez6649]

i completed 98% of a match and got kicked during extraction, i carried the shit outta them too. Ill never understand why some are so miserable.

[@marcuso7350]

Thats 100% a """person""" who doesnt get how shared team rewards work and thinks he"ll only get the samples he personally picked up, i have seen these kind of people in games like payday where they thought; the payout got divided between all four.

[@kaden-sd6vb]

we ought to make a blacklist for hosts who do this. kick em' out, like what we did to Tacobot over in tf2.

[@fluffrier]

@@kaden-sd6vb The in-game profile doesn't have an identifier so for them it's just a matter of changing the Steam name to get around that.

[@allens1287]

I kicked a guy at extract, because he killed us and got in without the samples. Most randoms I encounter are just ass

[@GrumpyGamerz]

@@gocrashbandoloot shit this sounds just like the game i had 3 hrs ago , found all the samples destroyed all the nest BUT 1 and get close to the LZ and bam kick

[@IkariMadness]

Im fine with people joining the last moment when we are getting ready to extract. "Man you won the lottery. Free medals, samples and xp. Congrats."

[@DavidC-fk2wg]

If I answer an SOS and drop in late then damn right I expect my share of the spoils!

[@fresnel149]

Yesterday I accidentally threw down an SOS beacon at extract instead of a resupply, and a dude joined my solo mission with 20 seconds left on the pelican and all the extract patrols already wiped. If you're out there, Absolutely_Useless, you lived up to your name perfectly and I hope you enjoyed your free medals! I'll enjoy the screenshot I got of the after-action report with a guy named "absolutely useless" having no kills, no shots fired, no hits, and no samples extracted.

[@sapperwes809]

If i solo i try to throw down sos at extract so someone can get some easy looot.

[@TheTrueHolyDarkness]

Um, people joining late just means that they're early for your next mission.

[@TheTrueHolyDarkness]

@@fresnel149 OH GAWD I want this shared somehow!

[@whitewolfO1]

I joined a mission while the other 3 were finishing the last objective yesterday. Called in my gear, then immediately got killed by a dude with an arc thrower who spun around and shot a charger after it got behind him between the entire team and him. Couldn't get the gear back on respawn because it was overrun, so I mused at how funny it was to lose my gear right at the start because of a dude with an arc thrower doing 360s. Then his teammates started intentionally killing me when there were no enemies around. I was just about to leave, when the host DC'd and I got host as they were 30 seconds from extract landing, so I kicked them after about 4 TKs in a minute. God that felt good.

[@aidryanrobert9352]

This happened to me as well

[@Onyvox]

Karma is a bitch, ain't it? :D

[@forgethought8174]

I'm glad you got to experience that turn around. Sorry about the shitty experience.

[@disbelief3911]

Dicks with friends are the worst.

[@Admiral-Dolphin]

You sir did everything right. XDDD god, loved it to read.

[@RoleKeeper]

If I forget to switch to friends only, I just try and finish it with whoever it is who joined then switch afterwood. I ve never kicked any one. As a matter of fact today I forgot to do it so me and some randoms slogged through the mission, then all 3 of them died at the exact same as the dropship was coming in. Instead of just climbing on board I waited to call them all in and made sure they were all in the drop ship before I got on and I grabbed there samples.

[@PORTERHAUS_]

This is the way. This game's community needs to grow towards a more friendly vibe. DRG's motto is "No Dwarf Left Behind" and the community takes that statement to heart. It's a good majority of the time in DRG whether a random will die trying to revive their teammates so all players can get on the drop ship. Where as in HD2 people kick others for using a weapon they don't approve of and would leave your ass on the planet then to to take 1 second to simply call in a reinforcement so all can extract.

[@jimberlee6257]

Thank you for both naming this! I haven’t kicked folks either as nuance can be hard to get (you don’t know if I just want friends right now, or hate your guts). I’m working to promote a community of no diver left behind, be the change you wish to see, do unto others, etc ❤️😊

[@Eleven217]

o7

[@nobodysbusiness2178]

thats the intent but 12yr olds playin on mommy and daddys dime dont get it.

[@Semperf11]

This is the way

[@ZayP730]

i got kicked one time because a guy ran directly towards my airburst (he was 60m away) and got killed right after the ship left orbit💀

[@ThisIsAHandleOrSomething]

Yeah, friend and I QP’d. It was an eradicate mission. Friend puts down mines, constantly pings where it’s located. Host ran directly into it despite the ping, dies and kicks said friend for dying to it.

[@shindukess]

Happened to me yesterday. Jumped in to help an egg hunt. Threw an airstrike burst way ahead of teammates into a nest, they ran passed me directly under the beacon and got leveled. I reinforced them, I get kicked. Worked out for me because I had to go to sleep anyways.

[@darkstormww7479]

What do people not understand about red beams? If close to red = dead stand close to blue, but not directly on it = stuff (don't steal other peoples support weapon people)

[@chloekaftan]

@@darkstormww7479 blue also means non-lethal, like smoke orbital stratagems and ems orbital strikes.

[@darkstormww7479]

@@chloekaftan yes so you can run towards it, it may be a nusiance but thats not a bad thing

[@wafflecopter9296]

I think a good solution is to give people a "host kicking ratio" under their name that indicates that they kick people often

[@omarmejia7609]

I like this idea.

[@SainKail]

damn bro, send this suggestion to the dev

[@masontaylor5522]

Bump

[@Lagoon4296]

I would also make it harder for people to matchmake into your games if your "host kicking ratio" is high (this penalty would decay over time, so your not stuck never being able to host again). If your being a crappy host and kicking tons of people, you don't get to easily host for a while and have to matchmake yourself. Seems fair to me.

[@Raigosai]

Maybe with specification of how many late-mission/at-extraction kicks they've done too.

[@TheChrisLeone]

How the hell are you gonna throw down an SOS beacon and still kick me? Dick move. I hope they implement something to prevent excessive kicking, I don't even kick players when they use up half of all the reinforcements, I really try to be cool with everyone!

[@DutchGuyMike]

Me too.

[@hengry2]

lol true, they already used half might as well finish the mission with them

[@TheChrisLeone]

I do enjoy dropping in sometimes right before extraction and getting all those delicious samples

[@Sarcastican_]

Every single time, I've noticed they kick you for carrying them. Like, don't throw a fuckin SOS if you don't want help. It's only happened a few times, but it's noticeable. Thankfully, most people (on the maximum difficulties at least) are fairly understanding to accidental teamkills. I've only seen people get kicked after their third teamkill or if they wipe the whole squad with a stratagem.

[@__Razer]

You ever get "Killed by [Teammate]" multiple times even when that teammate isn't responsible?

[@JBrander]

if you get kicked as soon as you enter ongoing mission = host probably has that slot reserved for their friend who got disconnected and forgot to set it to 'Friend only' on matchmaking if you get kicked as soon as you finish the mission = host probably has that slot reserved for their friend who just waited for your squad to finish and now they wanna join Both scenarios don't mean you harm. Getting kicked mid mission or nearing mission end is another story however.

[@viproductions2410]

For me I'll kick after the mission because I forgot to set to friends only but I don't wanna kick instantly because they also just wanna play a game. I'll finish the mission then kick then set to friends only.

[@SuperCatacata]

@@viproductions2410 Can't believe you would kick me after we finished the mission together. I thought we had something special 😭

[@viproductions2410]

@@SuperCatacata I try to give a warning before hand. Something like "I wanted to do solo but didn't wanna kick during missions. Thanks though"

[@thepope2412]

I just got kicked mid game despite everyone else constantly dying and me basically soloing side objectives

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Nope. If I bring a flamethrower I get an absurdly high kick ratio on entry. If I use a more meta setup I don't get kicked.

[@Nook772]

I dont get kicked, the whole team just leaves in the first 5 minutes after they spawn a bug breach and die

[@GoodGameCinema]

Been there...

[@ryanalving3785]

The weirdest part of that is, I played missions where the shtf as soon as we drop, and we lose almost all of our lives, so half the lobby quits right off. Then me and a random finish the mission with all objectives using the 2min reinforce timer and playing smart. Just because it's aclusterf*ck at the drop doesn't mean the mission is lost. You can pull off some crazy clutches if you just give it a chance.

[@Corteslatinodude]

@@ryanalving3785 thats up to peoples choice. if i have time for a couple matchs i wanna be playing it not waiting for the revive timer so i can spawn in and die to some random bs and have to wait again. I wanna play damn it so let me fukin play if that means leaving fine u can call SOS rights right there use it.

[@BeezOne84]

@@ryanalving3785 That's the way of Rock and Stone!

[@shadowsketch926]

@@Corteslatinodudethen don't play a game where these possibilities exist? you know full well when you dive down to a planet, you can literally end up in a massive clusterfuck, even if it's supposed to be a "safe area"

[@TheMalevolentSpoon]

Earlier me and another guy spawned in the wall. You know, the bug that's been a thing for like two patches now. Host kept popping in and out of pods to signal us to come start, because you know, we totally can. We tell him to just start and it will pull us. He promptly kicked us both instead.

[@InquisitorialOperator43]

Some people are just dicks man xD

[@tianxiu]

Hahahahaha stupid host. He can't even wait for 30 sec?

[@Zectifin]

genius.

[@crmac135]

Did you type in chat you’ll teleport in 30 seconds?

[@jollabang9564]

Yep, I've gotten kicked for spawning in a wall, Very annoying.

[@sirfrancis8732]

One time I got kicked from a destroyer within 30 seconds because I immediately offered the host a scout handshake. I didn't know that it would hit him with the old "too slow", and the instant it happened I could *hear* him opening the menu, and I was laughing the whole time. I have since unequipped the scout handshake lmao

[@innersight6070]

lol I used that emote on a friend. He went silent until we got into the mission. then he blasted me with a shotgun xD

[@Scarletraven87]

I once offered a hug to a far away player and then denied it when he was almost in range. He replied with the scout handshake, and it was the first time I got to know about it. Perfection.

[@alphatito868]

Happened to me, but after a mission. Dude scouted the fuck out of me and my reaction was "Fuck" while on mic and dude walked calmly away to the exit of the superdestroyer. Laughed so hard that MFer just casually did this. I forgor to send him a friendrequest tho

[@Ball_shlopper]

You should keep using it. I myself and a professional scout handshake user. if people can’t take a little joke then just keep rubbing it in their face

[@diswazzi1683]

Getting kicked by someone who doesn't understand is the most infuriating way to be kicked

[@aquacandela3705]

I use the HMG emplacement along with recoiless on helldive, people really underestimate how incredible it is. I've saved my team and completed missions many times due to that strategem. Recently while selecting strats before a mission the host backed out and told me if I use HMG he's kicking me. First of all the arrogance for someone to think they get dictate my play style, and second I told him I don't have enough crayons to draw a picture he'd understand; then I was kicked.

[@jnoirj3124]

I do agree that players shouldn't dictate what strategems others should play, but if they are the host, they can kick if they so choose and I will block them in return.

[@SinEater292]

I haven't purchased that one yet but was curious never seen anyone use it.

[@aquacandela3705]

@@SinEater292 Gotta know where and where not to place it, but perching it up high is ideal. It mows down everything short of chargers and titans. However, recoiless along with stun grenades which I can carry 7 keeps the heavies under control while wiping out bug breaches as they appear.

[@derkaiser9881]

@@SinEater292 Use it only against bugs, but it hits like a bus when you do; it pens medium armor, does a ton of damage, and has quite a bit of ammo. The call-in drops pointing towards where you're facing, so if you want a horde behind you dead plan accordingly. It also doesn't rotate 360 quickly, but has a 2-piece base. The top half rotates fast and the bottom half rotates slowly. So once you get it generally on target and you're in the firing arc of the top half you'll be snapping between targets. There's a destroyer module which lets you get that call-in down to 0 seconds, but know if you're playing on higher difficulties, all the garbage conditions will make the call-in time longer. It's really fun on defense, though. Biggest weakness is the slow turn for targets 180 degrees from where the guns are pointing, chargers, and bile titans. Again, don't even bother against bots; you'll just be a super easy target for a devastator.

[@teapouter]

How is HMG better than the Patriot?

[@banjo87]

The best thing they should change in the game is that when you get kicked you continue mission on your own.

[@chloekaftan]

amen, screw all of the griefers in this game. there are only a few of them but enough to make me lose the will to jump in the game and spend my weekend in bed instead.

[@roar104]

unfortunately that's abusable. Complete all the objectives, call in the pelican, kick the other 3 players, get 4x the global progress as it finishes 4x the missions

[@ryanotte6737]

"Good, that's one less loose end.". 😭

[@StabbyMay0825]

@@roar104hm, perhaps the player that is kicked will not cause an impact to the liberation percentage. What do you think of this idea?

[@banjo87]

@@StabbyMay0825 that was my tought, if kicked your mission success does not count in liberation %.

[@kilikx1x]

I have a guy that I play with that I simply can't let be host any more because he gets too frustrated at minor mistakes and kicks people without warning. He doesn't use his mic in game, he doesn't type in game, he doesn't attempt to communicate at all. He just assumes that any and all mistakes made by "random players" have malicious intent behind them. It should be noted that this particular acquaintance of mine is, by a margin, often the one doing the worst on the team. Edit: To all of the people saying to just "break it off" or "dont play with them" or some other variation of it, that is absolutely horrible advice. Its someone that I occasionally play with and they have this one bad habit, the solution is already in my comment. I don't let them host anymore, and yet they know *why* I don't let them host any more. Seriously its kind of sad just how many of you are telling a random stranger on the internet to stop talking to someone they know because of a bad habit in a video game.

[@The_Geni]

Just stop playing with him lol

[@cbtcrusader7699]

personally i would distance myself from someone like that not for any moral reason, but because people who use 'it's just a random i don't care lol' as an excuse don't also realise that what they are actually showing that when there are no consequences for their actions they are terrible people

[@TheBananamonger]

Don’t hang out with him. He’s toxic and it will infect you.

[@Tucarius]

Sounds like projection on his part, and he often maliciously sabotages the missions on purpose. As such he assumes others are doing the same.

[@joshuatheargonaut4412]

Sounds like you need to have a heart to heart talk with the fella. A good friend will tell you when you are being a giant bag of douches.

[@TheFoodieCutie]

Been at the start of a base defense mission, reinforced people 4 times 7/8 launches and suddenly my screen goes dark and it says you have been kicked. Waste of time.

[@wombatkins]

Yeah. I've played for 30 minutes, have a dozen reinforced, two deaths, and five heavy kills, and then I get kicked.

[@m4xfl4xst4r]

kicks should still award the rewards acquired at the time of removal

[@GáborOrosz-y1l]

too exploitable

[@radurusnac6962]

​@@GáborOrosz-y1l So what's YOUR solution then?

[@reviopohl2358]

Maybe, perhaps instead it gives a fraction but full xp for progressions sake? Therfore it kinda works but not worth the effort of exploitation?

[@__Razer]

@@reviopohl2358 What stings the most to players in these situations is the Samples and sometimes Medals output that they otherwise would've gotten.

[@FondlesHandles]

That's literally what deep rock galactic does. If you get kicked, you are rewarded with all resources, credits, and xp gained by the party up until that point. I'm not sure if it takes into account difficulty multipliers, but I think it does.

[@RobertSela]

Even having a perfect coop game, human nature still finds a way to destroy the experience

[@Suheirith]

I was in a group of 3 players with the handle 'SLIME' at the front. It was an exterminate bugs mission at night, so it's dark, and the map is small with several high rocks encircling the middle. After completing the objective, i was being reinforced, and the infamous 'steering lock' pulls my hellpod hard left to avoid landing on one of the high rock and accidentally landed on one of the player's mech which got blown up. He got so annoyed in voice chat and asked his teammate to kick me out for landing on him 'on purpose'. That experience taught me to avoid random group encounters with weird player handle..

[@Capnsensible80]

Yeah, I discovered like a decade ago that those weird "clan" types with prefixes in their names are best avoided. They're always either really bad, griefers, or have 0 patience for anything not going exactly as they desire.

[@SeohnAranys]

@@Capnsensible80 "or have 0 patience for anything not going exactly as they desire." LOL so again, they are bad players. Because a good player and Helldiver adapts and adjusts their fighting tactics when things don't go as planned. That said I keep the mic nearby in case of accidental mishaps. Like last night when I threw a support stratagem and it stuck to the top of another person's shield causing it to drop on them and kill them. I didn't mean to even throw it yet, let alone do that, I had no idea that could happen. The game literally says friendly fire happens in the tutorial and not to be so uptight about it. Also, a loading screen says "Friendly fire isn't", so doing it on purpose isn't good either. I'm thinking maybe there should be a kick limit. We can only kick people so many times in a day, then that's it for a couple hours or more. Maybe even have it kick them instead when they select it, a self-kick if you would. I wonder how many times they'll kick themselves out before they realize it. Maybe the second time it pops up with a message, "I see you kicked yourself again" "Maybe put it in friends-only mode if you cant control your own attitude that causes you to kick people so much."

[@Al0neStillAlive]

Landing on a mech is the absolute best reason to kick someone, and even if you say it's an accident how are they supposed to know that? Lul.

[@SeohnAranys]

@@Al0neStillAlive How are you supposed to know? Easy through deductive reasoning. If it happens once and they say it's an accident and it doesn't happen again, then it very likely was. If it continues to happen then it's likely not or they are really bad at controlling friendly fire. In which case, determine if they are trolling, and if they are then kicking is fine. Doesn't take much thought and assuming the worst from one incident makes the person making assumptions the bad one since they're outlook must be a negative one to assume the worst over a single incident.

[@Al0neStillAlive]

@@SeohnAranys Idiot randos you meat once aren't worth the consideration. And you only get two uses of the mech 10 minutes apart, EZ kick.

[@hiddencollision8441]

I had a mission where I got kicked because my teamates kept staying in one location getting swarmed and dying then proceed to try to get their gear back wasting all our reinforcements then getting mad at me because I decided to go for objectives instead of being farmed over and over again.

[@tibike262]

this should be top comment

[@lowbearful]

yeah, you should help them get the gear then? playing without your support weapon is really boring, so for that reason alone i'll go out of my way to help people get theirs back - it's not like you don't have spare time in most missions. it'll generally make the mission go a whole lot smoother if everyone has their support gear - it doesn't even happen that often anyway, just treat it as a side objective

[@hiddencollision8441]

@@lowbearful If they keep dying it doesn't help anything I'd rather reposition and wait for their support weapon cooldown at a new location where it's safe than try to grab weapons in the middle of a death zone.

[@lowbearful]

@@hiddencollision8441 sounds like you need to drink more liber-tea!

[@Jonrocks7]

“Play the game or throw the game?” Randoms: right is always right

[@fungithefungi3331]

The group has a meter that goes up depending on where your group is. When you go solo its easier at first because you gain your own meter. But at the end you can end up spawning more enemies than if you were a group. And if you clear an objective solo your meter goes down but not your group. You feel like a hero on your screen while your group cant really get out of a situation you cost

[@stinkystink9830]

You're baked

[@rottenpoet6675]

@@stinkystink9830 he is right!

[@asakayosapro]

Never heard anything about this meter stuff before, where do we see this?

[@fungithefungi3331]

@@asakayosapro kzbin.info/www/bejne/emeXlWapgbeKl9Usi=rMpi5aQguE9SrwzW Heres a video explaining it

[@Dr.nogood]

Tips - when you reinforce, throw them towards their supply’s, not at a random spot - if you split up, and you die, dont instant reinforce, but let the helldiver that you split up with reinforce you - when you have teammates using the same weapons that need a reload, link up with them so they shoot faster and take turns with that

[@MsDarkness1313]

In addition to throwing a person's reinforce toward their supply I also ping/tag their dropped equipment if I'm not mid fight. Seeing the ping for your dropped equipment makes grabbing it and rejoinging the fight that much quicker. If a group is spread apart some or we've got a late arrival to a spot where a fight's happening and there's a turret out. I'll try to tag the turret so the person doesn't miss seeing it and ends up getting a face full of turrent in case they've got enemies behind them.

[@vellikaari3008]

Yeah, unfortunately with a high CCU count comes a larger concentration of room temp iQ individuals.

[@chloekaftan]

lmao i love this "room temp IQ people" quote, imma steal it if you dont mind.

[@ghoulbuster1]

This is the right answer. It's that simple.

[@babylon4953]

Been kicked for friendly fire. A guy was surrounded by 3 Hulks, lying on ground rolling around while two flame hulks was about to toast him. I managed to kill all of the hulks from behind with arc thrower. But sadly one arc hit the guy killing him. He was already dead in any case. But I got kicked anyway. 🤬

[@tianxiu]

Kicking for friendly fire is such a spineless move. I would gladly take the fate of baiting out three Hulks, and I wouldn't mind doing a drop pod kill on my spawn.

[@deman182]

@@tianxiu especially with the Arc Thrower I started using it and picking targets that won't link to your squad is not exactly easy

[@tianxiu]

@@deman182 Yeah, I am an Arc main, and I tried my best not to kill my teams with it. Most people are smart enough to know not to stand in front of the Arc guy. Accidents still happen, well, for the greater good of Super Earth!

[@KeyClavis]

@@tianxiu Yup. Same thing goes for the guard dogs. They'll go for the closest target, even if you or your teammate is standing between it and the target. We've learned to keep them on the wings.

[@noahreiniger4955]

Is it asking too much for them to tweak the Arc thrower to not arc into teammates. I feel like that's the way I get friendly fired the most, which is saying a lot given how few people use it

[@tsdon5174]

I think a lot of people getting kicked because of the friend issue. Friends crossplay trying to join each other. Once it's fully fixed I think the pregame kicks will be much better. If you google work around for friend issue, first thing says wait and kick until friend joins.

[@sarbe6625]

There should really be some kind of ding or buzz to notify everyone when someone's typed in the chat. (maybe with an option to change the volume in the settings)

[@ribbke]

I had a guy join my lobby, die, then complain when he died to friendly fire after running in front of someone's gun. He then killed the guy who accidentally shot him. He later complained about how the other players were playing when extraction was 60 seconds away. I kicked him and extracted with no issues and everyone continued to have fun for the next hour or two. Tldr; helldiver berated his brothers and he was served a dose of liber-tea.

[@defenstrator4660]

The most often reason I get kicked is the same reason I kick other people. I forgot to change the private friend back from open after I brought my friends in due to the wonky friend system.

[@oscarortiz1529]

Same. I wish they gave options for reasons for the kick. This being “host wants to play w friends only/public lobby enabled error”

[@Scruffy-qi3ik]

@@oscarortiz1529 you could also just. y'know... say "sorry mate was supposed to be friends only." the game has both a vc and a tc, i don't think there's much reason not to just explain that first and let them leave or kick them after they could read or hear it.

[@zamba136]

@@Scruffy-qi3ik Randoms aren't real people. no need to take my time explaining myself to them.

[@Scruffy-qi3ik]

@@zamba136 doesn’t that make you not a person to them too? Also with that reasoning, you are kind of proving the power tripping host with an ego point towards people being kicked. It’s not even you “explaining yourself” it’s just saying why. Ain’t that hard to be a decent person.

[@carloaB14]

Yeah, I just wish people would communicate that almost everyone has a microphone/headset The PS5 controller is literally a microphone. What I get super upset about though, is getting kicked mid match for no reason like I remember I got kicked because I was using the anti-material rifle against automatons was only taken out hulks and devastator before they could get to my teammates

[@idiocracywasadocumentary]

I got kicked one time because my hellpad wasn't landing correctly

[@Sombot.V]

that really sucks my man, happened to me and the people I was with just waited the 20 seconds no problem, like how is it hard for someone to wait for a couple of seconds and instead kick you??

[@aemon-oni]

While not common, I've seen my roommate get killed after picking up one to many samples. Then at the end of the mission, get kicked for successfully dodging around said players attempts to continue to kill him. The host was low level, so our only guess was that he thought samples were exclusive to whomever picked them up and wanted them all for himself.

[@Deadsnake989]

I had something like that too recently, except it wasn't a low level person. Host killed me and my friend with an auto cannon and then took the samples. He did that twice so eventually I hit him with an arc thrower and then jumped in the Ocean so the samples couldn't be grabbed. No idea why the dude was doing that, but I'm petty enough to sabotage us both.

[@SuperCatacata]

Best way to fix this is to stop playing on difficulties 1-5 ofc new players are going to do absolutely stupid stuff.

[@aemon-oni]

@@SuperCatacataMy roommate was lv5-9 when this was happening. So that wouldn't really help.

[@HansHackfress]

I feel like the tutorial should have a single common sample near the end and General Brasch telling you every player in the party receives them on extraction regardless of who picked them up.

[@aemon-oni]

Ok, that was amazing.. TerminalMontage made a new episode "something about series". Has a bit on this exact issue XD

[@ravensailiata]

The only reason I'd kick if I was hosting is if: A. Cheater B. Griefer(teamkilling intentionally for no reason) C. They get into extract while the other 3 players are finishing up map objectives(I hate this one in particular, I'm a no diver left behind man.) Edit: to clarify the last one, I'm perfectly fine if someone calls in extract just to have it ready. That's fine, but getting into the dropship when the other 3 players aren't even there yet is a BIG nono.

[@skeley6776]

I had so many cringe cheaters with infinite nades in my lobbies its crazy and AH still didnt fix it.

[@shawnna1398]

I’m also a no diver left behind but sometimes those bots leave no choice I one Time got flung in the ship

[@happyguy8725]

Going for the extraction before the map is cleared. Team killing. Crying about being killed. Snorting sniffling or hacking into the mic, no mute, just go (turn off your mic) Smashing the respond me after you die, relax or go. Children on mic. Thats about it for my list

[@gabedolf5641]

I get kicked because my level is too high. This is an assumption since these lobbies are full of 20-30ish level players and when I get in, I immediately hear the ‘hellpod launch suspended’ line and know I’m about to get kicked before I can even get to the hellpod.

[@OhDough]

I have the same assumption honestly because it happens after I land in an already going mission and people just kick me less than a minute in.

[@omarmejia7609]

No way Levilism or Rankism?

[@gabedolf5641]

@@OhDoughit’s good to know that I’m not the only one experiencing this. Though I really wish the devs could come up with a solution to this. I like matchmaking and helping random lobbies but when moments like this happens, it really sucks.

[@gabedolf5641]

@@omarmejia7609 Honestly, I like to believe that they kicked me so that they could experience the game without getting help from higher leveled players and want to learn how to play the game themselves.

[@D3adCl0wn]

@@gabedolf5641 Or they assume you won't play for exp and req. I got in a lobby with 3 lvl 50 (I'm lvl 25) and when I keep looting samps and opening crates I got kicked.

[@jester_24-78]

1 dude freaked out on me because i joined super late then he kicked me i was like dude why you drop the sos 😂

[@tianxiu]

Sometimes we get new join just when the shuttle land, and we cheer for the lucky bastard for free shits lol.

[@shadowsketch926]

@@tianxiui always thank them for their hard work!

[@YuckFou0x0FFFF]

How do you know that's why?

[@HavingCrumpets]

@@YuckFou0x0FFFF they will very gladly tell you with a bunch of colorful language

[@SeohnAranys]

@@tianxiu Was going to say, you don't lose anything if someone joins last minute, and it's not like they knew the match was over. I've had someone say something once to me. I'm now looking forward to the next time someone says it in an insulting way because my comeback will be along the lines, "Do you think I knew that before joining? Where on the mission map before launching does it say the team is about to end the mission? What, do you think I can see the future? Do you think I only joined this match because I didn't want to have fun fighting the enemies and that I only enjoy running onto the extraction ship at the end?

[@loganmassingill9013]

I've been kicked at extraction after carrying people so many times ive lost count, i dont even pick up samples for randoms anymore, i just do main and side objectives and then call the boat after i tell them I'll wait at extraction

[@LocherYT]

I always leave the samples if a team mate is directly responsible for my death

[@ghoulbuster1]

It's funny because the host will lose those samples when kicking the player carrying them.

[@duo1666]

Im assuming the sample desnity is likely because its a smaller map with a shorter time limit, and it needs to have similar sample count compared to larger, longer missions.

[@Veckoza]

My only rule is that you let me go for the samples. People be calling extract with 25 minutes left and 6/40 commons collected. I warn people "if you go near that extract site you're getting kicked." Sorry but I'm not letting you pull me out of my own fkn game when I am there FOR THE DAMN SAMPLES.

[@TwistedwithPower]

💯 %

[@ziokalco]

95% of the players I kick is in the first seconds as I didn't intend the match to be matchmaking accessible. The in game friend system is trash and only works sometimes for some players. I have a frequent friend I can't add, whether I or him sends the request the other can't accept (and that is just one of many examples). They have to properly fix the friend system, or add an open but not for matchmaking setting. And yes, a vote kick system would be great, I almost never join randoms for the amount of BS moments. Allowing me to complete the mission on my own would also be good

[@someone-ji2zb]

Yep, this is the issue the vast majority of the time.

[@bigpuppyshoes5033]

Vote kick would not be good because 2 griefers can take over the whole game

[@ziokalco]

@@bigpuppyshoes5033 yea, but it will be a relevant mitigation. I was thinking about requiring majority, so 2 votes would only work in a 3 player squad. The main point is being able to continue the mission after being kicked

[@sykocaine]

You emphasize an H in W words, *proceeds to kick you*

[@EcchiRevenge]

People who got kicked for nOt UsInG mEtA probably were using explosive mortars...etc. on TCS.

[@SuperCatacata]

Can almost guarantee that almost none of them were actually kicked for "Not using meta" This is just the conclusion they came to in order to feel better about getting kicked. I doubt the hosts even take the time to communicate anything before simply booting them during a mission. There isn't enough time to do much else before getting swarmed by a patrol.

[@cbtcrusader7699]

based

[@kaden-sd6vb]

what's TCS in this context?

[@derkaiser9881]

@@kaden-sd6vb Terminid Control System. It's the mission where you have those big battery towers and you need to defend them so you can turn on the main Terminid Control System tower. Shit teammates on that mission is particularly annoying because they can actively damage the battery towers and reset your progress with stratagems, grenades, gunfire, etc.

[@breezy356]

Gotta get that sweet reddit karma somehow

[@vothbetilia4862]

I now understand why people abandon super earth. It's because your allies is more of a threat then the actual monsters.

[@Heidao623]

Leader is the first to die three times over, kicks the party in embarrassment

[@GBR9794]

i had a more sinister kick in the past before, the team was super helpful and collect everything. then they kicked me right before i reach the extraction shuttle.

[@raevenent751]

I have kicked because of forgetting to set my matchmaking to private...But there are times I can recall where it has changed my matchmaking to public when I had on private

[@curseofsasuke]

Save your settings before you exit the page.

[@derkaiser9881]

Throwing in an SOS does this.

[@raevenent751]

@@derkaiser9881 Ah, that's probably it then. In the heat of the moment I try to reinforce ASAP but instead I inputted SOS because of how I fast I do it

[@chloekaftan]

@@raevenent751 i see, so you'd rather fail the mission than have a random come in and save your arses from the depths of hell. so thats how it is.

[@Hamppdur]

The one and only time I've kicked someone intentionally was when they grabbed by autocannon and after I asked politely for it back (as I still had the backpack), they shot my friend with it cause they were too stupid to know which one of us was speaking to him. Every other time was just to make room for friends or I was done for the night. And yes, I know you can set your matchmaking preference to friends only but, since the social tab is still broken, I can't play with some people who are my friends but simply not on my friends list.

[@DongerMalone]

I've kicked probably a grand total of 4 people. 1- guy landed on us with his hell pod three times in a row. 2- every time the guy spawned he would kill himself with a grenade. 3,4 - one of my friends d/c'd and a person joined before they could reconnect

[@GnarledStaff]

I know this video is old but I have some tricks to avoid being kicked. 1. I use my microphone and explain what is going on, my thought process and why I am doing things. This lowers chances of misunderstandings. I apologize for mistakes. 2. I do not treat my knowledge as absolute and try to be open to other peoples way of doing things. 3. This means not telling people they are playing the game wrong. That goes a long way towards not being perceived as an asshole. 4. I don’t act like an asshole, troll or sabotage the team. This is not a guarantee. People can still kick me for various reasons, especially if they do not not follow number 2. But these steps do help significantly. For example, if OhDough (video poster) had mentioned why he was running around away from the objective in voice, the people he was working with would have been significantly less likely to think he was being useless. In that case he got kicked because he was unresponsive, not seeing text chat. Taking the initiative and communicating his plan and checking in occasionally to let them know he was still doing something useful would have gone a long way toward reassuring the team, and probably prevented the kick altogether.

[@black_ghost1215]

This is why they need to add back text to speech, when you are doing something you rarely have time to look down at the chat box.

[@Steir12]

Simple audio cue for chat messages would be enough really. Game lacks some of most obvious QOL features almost like devs never played videogame before.

[@geronimo5537]

If people would say what the were doing or the host said what they wanted then this would be less of an issue. A little text fill box for why the person was kicked would give some better context.

[@chloekaftan]

or... and just hear me out here... you just tell them why they have to kick you in the first place? we have voice chat and text chat in this game, there is literally no reason not to explain yourself.

[@magnificent9784]

@@chloekaftan How would I (person about to be kick) know that I am being going to get kick if the host does not initate the topic?

[@stephengrant4841]

I’d love a way to include text for why they got kicked when it happens and they get that “you were kicked” message. I kick people a lot in my games for reasons I think are good. Letting them know why I’m kicking them would help them be better teammates in the future.

[@Recon4Lifez]

Played a match today where I joined on an S.O.S. beacon. I landed, and right as I exited the pod, I got tk'd by a friendly sentry and got kicked. Real fun

[@TheIvanMilky]

Yea game needs a major overhaul so that never happens to you again. Have you recovered???

[@LocherYT]

sometimes it'll be like that. The worse feeling is that you played everything perfectly with no deaths and then board the helicopter, then someone shoots you dead while you sit there helplessly and it marks you as failed to evacuate.

[@SuperCatacata]

@@TheIvanMilky Think about how that made him feeeeel 😢

[@FreakFrederick]

​@@LocherYTThose types of people are literally the worst

[@telapoopy]

It *is* very counterintuitive that dropships and bug breaches are tied to player location as opposed to the objective. It basically goes against what canonically makes sense. That they are here to finish off the colony, not take out helldivers. Seems the colonists would be better off without any helldivers dropping at all and should just let themselves out to take a peaceful stroll to the evac shuttle. I struggle to believe that it was intentionally designed to be played this way. It's more plausible to me that through oversight they gave this mission the full open world sample count, and because there are no bases, optional or subobjectives to distribute them, the samples are forced to spawn in excess at the few Place of interest types that are set up to have a ton of sample spawn points, used to prevent them always being in the exact same location and/or ensuring it's impossible for there to be not enough spawn points for the number of samples that are needed to be on the map.

[@TheIYFGamingTM]

Since I reached Difficulty 8 I get kicked way to often and on some days even from nearly every match. Sometimes they even let you play till extraction and kick you right before the extraction, after you did all the hard work. My solution for the game defs would be to remove the ability to pick up the loot or equipment from people, that were kicked from the match. For now the only way the prevent being kicked is to be he host.

[@SuperCatacata]

I kicked a guy for dying 10 times within 6 minutes and then killing 2 others with his arc thrower. The guy was actively trying his best to let the bugs win that round and did not belong on T9. Only time I've kicked someone. Throwing that hard is simply wasting the precious time of others at that point. We would've been better off with only 3 players the entire mission. Can guarantee that guy probably went to post about it on reddit.

[@t900HAWK]

they should add a ding sound when a message goes through i often dont read chat either

[@apuckingfenguin7034]

I mean, the only person I'm kicking is myself since each patch makes the game more unstable.

[@kendric_BUF]

And less fun

[@mig1017]

Would love to play the 1st pre nerf patch again. I remember it being way more fun.

[@AC-hj9tv]

​@@mig1017Pepperidge farm yo

[@lesscommonsense1804]

@@mig1017those were the days 😔

[@BackwardsPancake]

@@mig1017 I have actually really enjoyed some of the new maps, because they artificially create that kind of environment by having bugged spawns (where like half the patrols get stuck, so it feels like their spawn rate is reduced). Now if the game only crashed less...

[@magerius]

Always host, never join = never get kicked out.

[@flakcannon722]

When the breaker/rail gun was the "go to", i told that i had the wrong gear and kicked many times. It was really a thing. Since the balance pass, I've been kicked once.

[@ShevaiAsan]

I've personally only had to kick one person mid-mission. We were playing in a group of 3(out of a much larger gaming group that have known each other for almost 20 years); a random joined us and we said no worries. About 10+ minutes in, we were trying to show our new player(group friend) how to keep moving and don't stop to fight swarm; because he kept aggroing everything near us, which caused three swarms to come at us from different angles. We eventually got the swarms to converge into a single 'entity' for easy killing while we kept back-peddling and slowly burning it down with airdrops, turret placements, etc. The random that joined us, however; kept using their flamethrower all around us and basically 'bottling' us with no escape other than walking through flames and burning; which killed our new guy. He was using the ingame voice chat to then talk trash to our new guy "Well guess you'll just have to keep dying to fire if you're gonna get in the way." So we got to the next primary objective; I pulled a shotgun blast from the breaker in his back(one shot him), and we kicked him. If you join someone else's game; you could potentially be joining a pre-made group who already know each other, but overall, don't sit and talk trash to the people you join. You're a guest in another Hosts game, be kind and assist the group; or go host your own game and act a fool as much as you like. That's really the only time we've had too much issue with someone, we've had maybe one or two other instances where someone was just calling airstrikes on us belligerently and not caring who they killed or the samples we lost; and we kicked that person aswell. Just acknowledge that you're part of a team, and don't be the person talking trash, killing team mates or making it harder for the rest of the group do play the game. Host your own game, take your own friends along; and play your way; foolish or otherwise. When you're in someone else's hosted game and they're telling you something through ingame chat/voice; please listen to them to avoid being kicked. To the Sweaty-Smoothbrains decrying us kicking team-killers: You're probably the same kind of insufferrable, insolent jackoffs that get kicked from games and then go cry about how the 'kick' feature shouldn't be in the game, that you 'dindu nuffin', etc. No reasonable person joins a match in progress, is told what we're trying to do and how we're playing the match; and then starts team killing and talking smack to the people they kill with aoe/splash damage. If you don't see a problem with their behavior, you're probably getting kicked regularly and are too much of an asshole to look at yourself and realize YOU are the problem.

[@crackededge9351]

I’ve never once had a host that kicked me communicate a problem through voice chat or text chat. Most hosts I never know what I did to offend them, it becomes a guessing game each time I get kicked. Was I doing too many side objectives? Was I not sticking close enough to the team? Did I not prioritize samples enough? I never know the reason I get kicked. I’ve noticed that skilled players (skull admirals) have never kicked me once because they have the decency to explain what they’re trying to do in the mission, either through chat or pinging objective.

[@jlebrech]

I've kicked someone for not picking up samples, we failed the mission too.

[@TheGarret18]

Friends only option is good)

[@ShevaiAsan]

@@crackededge9351 we always talk to the random players and post in chat our intentions. Full map clear, stay close, don't pull patrols, always grab samples, becareful with AOE, etc. We always issue warnings before we kick, but when the guests start talking trash, or dont apologize for teamkills(or are blatantly TKing and then blaming those who died), they get kicked. And yes, we primarily play private games, but as of late the friendlist hasnt been adding new friends, so we've had to open the game, get friends in, and sometimes the host forgets to close the lobby.

[@chloekaftan]

you people sound like the kind of people who kick just because a random is doing a better job than you are. exactly like ohdough had in his own mission in the video, a solo random getting all the samples and everyone else in the team (who are friends) think hes throwing the match, when in reality hes carrying the match by pulling scripted mobs away and had 4/5 of all the samples in the entire map. then y'all kick him because you think hes throwing, and instead you yourselves throw the match because not only did you lose all the samples by kicking him, you also lost the mission because you cant handle a single hive despite having 3 people there. realistically a 2 man can handle level 9 hives just fine if they know what they're doing. if you need 4 people just to clear a single hive, then perhaps you should go back down to level 4 - 6 missions.

[@Vikrampic123]

a big reason I kick anyone is calling extraction too damn early. or when I very specifically tell them to not finish the Final objective otherwise Patrol Spawn timer halves

[@SpongyKarma]

I have never been kicked once in mission. I don't like hosting in this game, I just like following the host and doing whatever they seem to be doing.

[@solabyss8451]

I had a mission recently where I gathered all POI items, found tons of samples; including supers, got to extraction, then was kicked. Days it gets bad enough I wont play unless I'm host.

[@youmayknowmeas2an]

I've only had to kick 2 people mid game for trolling/griefing. I don't think I've ever been kicked while in game. I've kicked like 40 players in pre game lobby because the friends system doesn't work and my buddies can't join my game on "friends only" when we're friends in game and on steam.

[@saravanhorn4982]

what a coincidence, that guy joined me stood in front of my autocannon sentry and died to it then killed me and destroyed all of my sentries so i kicked him

[@OhDough]

they seemed a tad bit goofenshmirtz like

[@KetxGaming]

i kicked someone today because he got inside the extraction first while we all had the samples and were far away from the ship lol

[@Pejatube]

So he was just at the extraction and you kicked "lol"? Maybe he was dropping samples in order not to lose them and planned to join you but you wouldnt know because you didnt communicate and were power tripping.

[@idkyoua]

reading does help alot. he said "got inside extraction" meaning he was in the ship dummy@@Pejatube

[@KetxGaming]

no he did not wait for anyone and got inside the ship first without any samples@@Pejatube

[@Moneo_Atreides]

So you kick people at extraction. You're still the scumbag

[@Scruffy-qi3ik]

@@Pejatube you don't have the best reading comprehension huh?

[@Bannor21]

I got kicked the other day for calling the shuttle down lol. Two of us were holding down the extract, the other two were looking for the samples. Morons didn't realize that you can call the shuttle but you don't have to get on until the mission timer is up.

[@tianxiu]

Yeah, I got kicked for that, too, and I even set the shuttle to hover. Browse the comment section above, and you will see a whole bunch of "dude call ship while us doing sample" kicks. Those morons.

[@pragueshadow8135]

All I can say is that often than not people will actually not wait and board without you. So if you as a host had 8/10 boarding without you than you just get piss** off when someone calls the shuttle period. They are more clueless and bad players than those here with common sadly.

[@magnificent9784]

Did you comminate with them so they know?

[@TruFalco]

Never call extraction without everyone nearby. If I'm ready, I'll wait near the extraction and go prone, watching the map for them to them to be within like 200m away, because calling extraction calls in waves of enemies to the extraction point. Maybe you can handle them, but without communication it creates a stressful moment knowing someone can accidentally jump in the pelican and you're a few minutes away, losing all your samples.

[@Bannor21]

@@TruFalco gonna have to disagree with you there bud, because the pelican can hover indefinitely and clear the drop zone as long as there's time in the mission. It's way better to have the pelican hovering on standby raining down hellfire, and be able to hop right in when you return with the samples, rather than having to wait several minutes for it to arrive while under heavy fire.

[@KipcreateGaming]

Got kicked from a match (along with another guy) because we weren't on extract with him. We were recovering Super Samples and had two Bile Titans on us. I was covering the other guy, doing a staggered retreat towards extract, watched the first guy disappear, and the samples clip irrecoverably into the terrain before I was booted a few seconds later...

[@sw1mmerdude]

Usually get kicked by PC hosts They get so offended if you're playing on PlayStation and have an open mic God forbid I have friends and was playing with them

[@domh3428]

IMO if you are gonna join a random your job should be to help the host progress THEIR mission. Running off dying 4 or 5 time or hogging all the resupply's to your self is not fair for the host. if you care that much about getting kick for doing 100% of a mission host your own lobby or join a friend simple as.

[@PopersIRL]

this is a miserable take lmao

[@pododododoehoh3550]

What an ahole. Youre not elected emperorer because you selected the mission and they hit quickplay.

[@domh3428]

@@PopersIRL I would love you to elaborate on how respecting a host intentions aiming for team work over 4 randoms playing solo doing their own thing miserable to me I find it kinda sad running around solo and watching ppl do their own thing on someone else SOS call or maybe I value try to be social RP as John helldiver helping out the cadets.

[@PopersIRL]

@@domh3428 @domh3428 bootlicker lmao. if someone runs off on their own its in an effort to finish the objectives, not to sabotage your mission. if a random joins my mission and dies 5 times boo hoo its a game mistakes happen if I hated human error enough to get upset at misplays Id close my lobby. If im hosting a lobby I dont expect 3 subordinates to join and listen to my whims. if they wanna bring a horrible loadout and play badly its whatever I can solo anyway. if you can't play with bad teammates id suggest trying lower difficulties

[@oddtrack]

it is a valid thought though. people do the objectives quickly and dont bother with much else so they can get XP quicker. if they relay that to a random player and the rando doesnt care, then oh well. host would do their own thing anyway or give the boot. or if the rando agrees, even better

[@AssignedHuntHelper]

its equivalent to killing a gta pedestrian. completely random and unprovoked

[@pocketfish22]

they could always be forced to give a reason for kicking someone after the mission ends and if it happens often enough they get flagged, or just flag whoever has a high ratio of kicks, maybe also add in time before extract they were kicked with griefing at the end of a mission

[@Maximum_Twang]

​@Sgt.Wolfhart in over 150 hours of HD2, I've never experienced shit talk. There is a mute button for a reason. If people confuse mute for kick, they should deal with the repercussions of being so sensitive.

[@SuperCatacata]

Can you really not see how that would be easy to abuse? The devs don't have a big enough team to waste time looking over that manually. So people could simply lie and state a reason that warrants being kicked. The system is fine as it is. Host your own lobbies if it really bothers you. It shouldn't be destroyed simply because of a few bad apples ruining it for a very small amount of people.

[@PORTERHAUS_]

​​@@Maximum_Twang likewise, I'm level 29 and have never encountered shit talk once. But get kicked for no apparent reason probably every 5 games. I'm consistently top in kills, clear objectives quickly, i salute, I'm a team player, use comms and pings regularly and I've sacrificed myself to save teammates who were in tough spots. I average 0.5 to 1 death per mission on lvl 6 and 7 difficulty. Yet still get kicked all the time. Makes no sense. I was a big Deep Rock Galactic player and I can count on one hand the amount of times I was kicked after years of playing that game. Unfortunately the HD2 community is just much more toxic/shitty I guess.

[@Keyce0013]

The problem with needing to include a reason for a kick is that players can just pick the first option (or type gibberish if they have to input a response themselves), so there's no real accuracy in kick reasons.

[@marcuso7350]

Not being disrepctful but thats a horrendous idea just penalizing a player for anything outside blatant cheating/griefing, this cant be fixed with system nor needs one at all, its about trust and good conduct from players just like almost every other COOP game. Host being the only one able to kick is the best method so far

[@CypherusMcClain]

Was playing HD2 with my fiance and a mutual friend of ours. Her ship is open because she doesn't care if other people join or not. Some random joined us and started using his scythe on us. Like... I get accidental friendly fire here and there in the heat of battle, but these were like 5 second long controlled bursts at our backs. We kinda shrugged it off because, like... whatever, we're still having fun. Dude's just being annoying. He then whips out the airburst rocket launcher and basically shoots me in the back while I'm trying to take out a fabricator. This was witnessed by the other two of our party, and he was summarily executed after I was called back in. We let him linger in "reinforce" for the entire game and booted him before extract just to drive the point home that he was not going to profit off of being a dick when we're just trying to vibe and play a game. Watched us have fun and didn't get a single sample or point of XP for the mission. Should have blacklisted him, but whatever. I hope he reads this comment, understands it's him I am talking about, calls himself out and feels shame for being a shitty person. Other than that, we enjoy playing with randoms. Just the unfortunate dickhead every once in a while.

[@YuckFou0x0FFFF]

The issue with in-mission kicks is simple: You want to play with random teammates on a challenging level, but you avoid using a mic or text chat. If you want to do things your own way, go play solo. 🤷

[@tulipchild]

Let me share a little story. There was once a helldiver who used Arc thrower at the beginning of the game. He electrocuted and seriously injured two teammates in succession, and then kicked them out after laughing at them in the chat room. Has anyone experienced this ( •̀ ω •́ )?

[@cavc1979]

What's the point of this stupid story

[@rockersons4853]

Your fault for getting in the way of his arc lol is the best support weapon for terminids anyways soo

[@Scruffy-qi3ik]

@@rockersons4853 did you miss the "beginning of the game" and "laughed at them in the chat room" bits? that kind of majorly implies he purposefully aimed at them at the very start of a mission just to kill and kick them.

[@LocherYT]

truth be told, Arc Thrower is very OP and meta. Dying to a Meta weapon is considered a prestige by many. If you see someone with an Arc Thrower, consider your life to be expendable infront of its sheer power and versatility. Never go infront of an Arc Thrower and try to flank instead. Maybe he laughed at them because they did not possess a meta weapon like he does.

[@rockersons4853]

@@Scruffy-qi3ik oh I read it wrong my bad

[@minimalgrammar1276]

One of DRG's strongest points is its community. I think I've already gotten kicked more in Helldivers than I ever have in DRG, and I got the game a few days ago. (And have been playing DRG since who knows when.)

[@ironboy89]

Part of the issue is that Helldiver missions have high-stake missions, high punishments, and friendly fire. Perfect recipes for people to kick you.

[@minimalgrammar1276]

@@ironboy89 Deep dives work much the same as an operation in Helldivers, and friendly fire is very much a present concern in DRG. Plus, if you get bad enough RNG, missions in Deep Rock can make Helldivers look like a pleasant vacation. Yet still, the people are nice :3

[@ironboy89]

@@minimalgrammar1276 One of the differences with Helldivers and DRG is that DGR disables during kicking drop pod depatures. Meanwhile Helldivers Extractions get super toxic because people can shoot in the ship, kick before getting into the ship, and end the mission, etc.

[@minimalgrammar1276]

@@ironboy89 To be honest, anyone who goes into the menu needed in order to kick someone during a DRG evac in anything above hazard three is either stupid as Hell or has balls of steel. Or maybe both.

[@Aurummorituri]

I got kicked for using the Tesla tower and two guys kept running right into it. This was before the new armor. I typed and spoke warnings to stay away especially if you had a Dog that could arc to you. I’m not sorry for these TK’s when they were really that dumb. 😂

[@qrurq]

I had situation when I was playing 40m mission and i litterly single handedly(we run out of drop pods) finished a mission to destroy the eggs and been able to call dropship and defend it. 15s before dropship landed guy kicked me out of mision on purpose talking some slurs on voicechat. One person that been playing with me said after he kicked me he said sarcasticly "Ooooo im so sooooorry". Imagine having like 2h after work to play you finish 40m mision and you get kicked bcs owner of lobby is asshole.

[@Steir12]

I joined a lobby recently it was automaton cleanup mission in progress. I get out of the pod, throw orbital railgun at hulk and mission was completed. I then went to pelican, got inside and host kicked me. Mission was already over and my presence literally costed him nothing but he still took his time to kick me and deny me free medals. People are such a petty creatures sometimes.

[@TheReelSketchman]

This is why I don't like playing with random people anymore. Folks take this too seriously.

[@dudeydude77_clips]

As someone with an imaginary rule book, there's 158 rules, and you better be ready for the test.

[@SuperStarTidus18]

Don’t wanna get kicked? Be the host.

[@d1oftwins]

It's not about having authority it's about cultivating a community you want to come back to playing. Having everyone hosting so they can be toxic on their terms does solve jack sh*t! How are people missing that point?

[@Draculas-knight]

​@d1oftwins Nah I am a friendly host , you will only be kicked if you hack as in automatic rocket launcher type of hack

[@d1oftwins]

@@Draculas-knight Yes, that's great, but the HD2 community is not just you. We are talking about the bad apples and that we should get on the same page. To the best we can that is, some as*holes gonna as*hole just cause they have a smol pp. 🤷‍♂ And I am not saying hosting your own server is not an option, but its not a dead sure solution either. I think people would rather have fun instead of filtering out idiots. If the community gets toxic it will be harder to find good games and will degrade to a frustration fest.

[@Draculas-knight]

@@d1oftwins on that we agree , however you can't control who is an asshole and who is not

[@d1oftwins]

@@Draculas-knight True, we need a in-game social credit system to blame and shame. 🤣 Would fit just right in the universe.

[@happyjohn354]

I only kick people if they are actively making things harder for the group. Just yesterday there was a guy who wouldn't do any of the objectives and would just wander off to fight enemies causing more to spawn. He would die often and ended up eating 10 of our groups respawns before we kicked him. You would be surprised how many randoms REFUSE to work with the group.

[@deadwhitedragon9751]

Sometimes the game randomly crashes and someone joins in your place (in a 2-3 man friend + pubs), so the host kicks so you don't have to wait the whole match

[@jordancostello1674]

I didn't think that Helldive difficulty was like an Easter-egg hunt for samples!

[@asakayosapro]

Wow I see plenty… sadly I only unlocked Suicidal difficulty at Lv. 25, gotta get helldive diff somehow

[@sagichnichtsowiesonicht7326]

i've kicked people that do neither PoIs, Side-Objective or main_objevtives and chew trough reinforcments like party snacks.

[@darkstormww7479]

For PoI's it depends on the timer, if you have a ton of time definitely. (personally I enjoy bot outposts because the commissar isn't moving around infinitely surrounded by medium bots)

[@SuperCatacata]

Agreed, if nobody is dying and one guy has consumed like 8 reinforcements already. They are dead weight and shouldn't be on that difficulty. Learn the game in lower difficulties before ruining the game on higher difficulties for others.

[@darkstormww7479]

I die like 3 times sometimes, but thats because someone triggered a hulk that locked onto me and then they keep throwing my reinforces at the enemy. (they eventually learn not to throw my f-in reinforce at the entire enemy military presence on the planet)@@SuperCatacata

[@hengry2]

you cant fault me for dying to 10 rocket devestators okay, its an open field

[@yankesik5949]

I think if you ran off solo, you should at least explain what you're doing to the rest of the team, don't expect them to read your mind and know what you're doing without you telling them.

[@stephengross9441]

Too many silent people for sure. I’ve been kicked for talking though too…

[@GGBlaster]

While communication is key, I feel like the host should have been able to see the steadily climbing numbers of samples and intuit what he was doing.

[@boofhead711]

I'v been kicked at the end of mission to many god damn times

[@predatoredaria4557]

i kick a lot of players lately. I play stealth and sometimes i go low difficulty to farm. if i wriite " don't follow me" 3 times and you don't care, i kick. if i write " do no textract" and you rush for evac i kick. listen to what the host wants and you will be fine.

[@stewa4067]

My latest kick was kind of funny. I came in a little late, the reinforcements were pretty low. I broke off to kill some nests and ended up collecting the super samples. The rest of the team wiped out the last of the reinforcements by the time we met up at exfil. One went down, and then the host died, the pelican had just landed.. I couldn't have been ten feet from the exit when he kicked me, oh well no samples for anyone I guess. I get kicked most often when I run the 380, people just can't wait that whole 30 seconds to run face first into the enemy. When I host I have kicked people for killing me 3 times with stratagems and for picking up my gear.. so i'm just as guilty as anyone else lol

[@avancult]

today I played with bunch of idiots who dropped cluster bombs on each other and have used all the reinforcements, when I said them not to do that they just kicked me, they were lv 30 btw, i hope they failed the mission due to run out of reinforcements

[@mikeymike3760]

No kicking after hellpods land on the soil. You landed together, you die together.

[@trashduck]

I would like for frequent kickers to be deprioritized in the matchmaking queues or if a non-friend is kicked from a match within x seconds of joining then the lobby goes into the lower priority queue.

[@theonearmedbandit3826]

Or just ban frequent kickers from hosting a game for a period of time lol. So nobody has the displeasure of joining one of their games and wasting their time lol.

[@gingersaremad]

I only kick people after a game when they burn through over 50% on the revives on their own. IDC about their load out, strat, or gameplay. Just don't die over and over again so me and my friends in the party have to wait to revive.

[@donttouchmysoda7551]

I got kicked for doing the obj while the rest of the team was senselessly fighting endless bugs in the middle of nowhere, they all wiped I spawned them in and ran for a near by ? To grab the samples and whatever else was there and got kicked, I'm just gonna host from now on and not give idiots any kinda of power over my having a good time

[@marsfab8019]

I joined a similar game the other day and ended doing the objective solo while my team was diying in middle of BF nowhere! 2 mnt into the mission more than half the redeployment was gone.

[@donttouchmysoda7551]

@@marsfab8019 I think the main issue is far to many people think you need to kill everything you see, when in reality on higher difficulty it's better to avoid and run from a fair amount of fights, can't count how many times mu team had burned half or all of our respawns before I can even run to the closest obj 🤣

[@TheDorianTube]

''I'm getting kicked for no reasons'' The whole 9m video is him always being at least 150 meters away from his teammates, going around triggering spawns lol.

[@OhDough]

If you don't know how this mission works that's fine. Would suggest not treating a vid you just watched as gospel, it won't serve you well

[@TheDorianTube]

@@OhDough Hi there o7, lvl 50, all unlocked, playing on 9. I know very well how missions work. What you don't seem to know tho is that time isn't a factor in this game, you don't gain anything by going ahead completing stuff and enemies don't come more the more time goes by. On the other hand by being separated from your guys you trigger additional spawns. Every major objective you touch adds to spawns, if you enter in within 50m of a nest you trigger a spawn, just the fact that you're not in a group triggers a hidden switch in the game that considers you a separate entity that can trigger separate spawns overlapping the ones activated by the group distant from you. This on top of the fact that patrols spawn infinitely meaning you double the risk of activating one by backtracking after you've done what you wanted to do. You strolling around only adds to the Tunnel Breaches. The only time someone is justified in doing the Lone Wolf play is when you can complete a secondary objective by sniping stuff (illegal broadcasts, spores, etc) or when there are too many enemies and you need to kite some away from the working team. These are things to consider from diff 7+. Inexcusable in 9

[@l3wari]

@@OhDoughits fine for this mission, but this is only reason I kick people out of the lobby (if you dont count griefing). Someone starts running 150m to other direction than what is pinged where is absolutely nothing related to samples / missions. Just today playing on Impossible and had to kick 3 people that joined, since it just felt they are ruining the game on purporse by starting to spawn so many enemies as its hard to even advance

[@wolfskane]

I am the person that kicked you. I've done this mission on automatons on helldive and I understand the strategy and mechanics you spoke about in this video. I wasn't worried that you were off objective because I know how the mission works. I would argue that it's simply not a necessary strategy when fighting terminids and it's more efficient to clear the objective with everyone there, then go on a victory lap to collect samples if you want. At the end of the day if you want to do anything other than assist the host in their goal, then either communicate that or host your own session. My only requirement from you in the role that you willingly chose would be to collapse onto the objective if called for. Being on the outside is chill, you get to vibe and kill the little baby spawns on POIs clicking E on samples and pretending you're doing the heavy lifting. The truth is that me and one other rando worked our asses off to get 40/50 scientists duoing on objective, your contribution via having a bile titan on you twice over the course of the game was not impactful (your welcome teammates) and when it was apparent we weren't going to clear the point and get 10 more scientists in, and you weren't going to respond or come help I kicked you. And I'd do it again! I'm not going to wait to let the mission fail to watch you run back and try to extract with your 80 samples that nobody wants or asked for. When you go collect samples for a level 6 it's helpful, when you're on helldive with other 50s I wouldn't act like I'm doing any charity work by diverting a third of the teams firepower to.. well, literally nothing! cya

[@Mono_Person]

Excellent work

[@stinkystink9830]

Proud of you, this guy thinks he is much hotter shit than he is and having a platform is NOT helping😂😂😂

[@ANIMALNOCTURNOable]

I just understood youre some fat sweaty neckbeard getting pissed off because youre clearly a bussy individual using 10 hours at day for this game and want to get the mission done quick

[@Mediumtiercommenter]

W, you never said for him to collect samples. And you asked multiple times. He was just arrogant.

[@sunsethollow2072]

That’s exactly y I kick people they get in my game without me wanting help and I haven’t switched to friends only

[@akilucky4040]

Kicked the dude who trash talked my friend for recalling him not where he wanted it. I'm not dealing with this type of shit when Im the host

[@everythingissogreen6748]

I block the people that kick me. Done and done, never gonna have to deal with their negativity.

[@DutchGuyMike]

How do you block them? In-game or on Steam?

[@cyborggunslinger4230]

Big reason why i play solo, random players just get in my way and die to stupid shit like calling 380s on themselves

[@tylerberg4832]

Just set your lobby to friends only then lmao