Hello Old Friend

[@Aphoti_K]

That AI maneuver in the beginning where they evaded an encirclement was genuinely unexpected.

[@Xeonzs]

Yea that was wild, almost human-like.

[@GVQuadra]

Cheesy faster than human Reaction Time AI movement is the reason why I don't feel bad whenever I beat them using off the other strats that break them. Really wish there was a middle ground instead of the player and AI repeatedly bullshiting each other 😂

[@дмитрогаркавченко-е6т]

I've been playing total war for ages (since Rome 1) and I gotta say that sometime this game AI can REALLY surprise you. In warhammer 3 I was ambushed during the battle by beast men. And no, I don't mean ambushed on a campaign map with a stance. They set up a trap for my troops on the field of battle and really gave me a hard time with that. But my #1 moment is from Medieval II. I was playing as Denmark, basically cosplaying vikings. I've landed on the English shore, send a diplomat to Scotland and offered them to attack England for some cash. Scotland has agreed and I took over York. Burned everything down and sold it to Scots. Few turns later, english diplomat came to me asking me for peace and... to attack Scotland for a cash prize. Which I did again :D. And holy sht, not even joking - Scotland than return to me asking to beat some English up AGAIN. By this point my reputation was absolute dogsht. Best campaign ever.

[@cameron354]

The WH3 AI is extremely predictable like 90% of the time then other times its wood elves kiting the shit out of me because the AI can perfectly micro 40 units simultaneously

[@kairoi369]

​@@cameron354 You are right. The AI is bad at whole army action but individual micro with kiting units is AI strength. Wood elves just happen to have those strengths.

[@loowick4074]

Wood elves doing 360 no scopes and matrix style dodges. Meanwhile empire AI trying to face towards the enemy for 3 while minutes before eating a foot of gork and running away

[@elijahjohnson1952]

This, Empire AI is easy, which is the real easy battle difficulties.

[@R3GARnator]

@@elijahjohnson1952 Azhag is one of the easiest campaigns, cuz basic orks dumpster entire early Empire roster.

[@Monochromatic_Spider]

Gork has the prettiest feet, though. Can't really blame the Empire lords for wanting to see more of them.

[@JohnJohn-r4l]

@@Monochromatic_Spider”Feet mmmm” ~Karl Franz

[@jasonkehr3727]

@4:45 Legend finally sees how the AI behaves for the rest of us

[@gaunt428]

100% agree. The WE AI has always been a cut above. They are a real challenge to deal with.

[@germanverner6501]

They also have one of the best roasters. I don't remember a single fight that's easy against them unless I outnumber them immensely.

[@sythrus]

@@germanverner6501don't forget how much of a pain dealing with them in their forest maps can be

[@germanverner6501]

@@sythrus like their own territory? Agreed. That's the only enemies I try to autoresolve.

[@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD]

What are they roasting?​@@germanverner6501

[@simonsoupshark8009]

i swear to god one of the devs decided that wood elves need to be total menaces i mean just orion alone

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

Nurgle sorcery really was the one piece chaos doomstacks wanted lol

[@TheBoxGhost_tm]

Honestly, I had fun pre-Thrones of Decay by putting 1-2 Slaaneshi mage heroes in the army for the extra speed. I really wish they wouldn't have nerfed Tamurkhan defeat trait because I was looking forward to trying to get 100+ speed Shaggoths.

[@Cleanrotknight456]

This is the thing I like about Shadow Legion. No caps on gifting units. Feel yourself right at home/Warhammer 2.

[@Nightmare_52]

belakor doesnt have unit caps on what he can have in his armies, the other warriors of chaos do so you cant doomstack with certain units

[@Cleanrotknight456]

@Xeonzs Gifted units is the ones you acquire from chaos gifts. It is available only for Warriors of Chaos. It had special icon down the army panel on campaign map, the circle with sticks. While Belakor has unlimited caps for them, other do have caps, for example, six gifted units per army. Gifted units are usually large monsters and not human infantry, such as toad dragons, Kokatrix, and bloodthirster.

[@affemitwaffedxc]

I allways play warriors of chaos with the mod "unlimited gifts of chaos". Really don't like the Limit on gifted untis.

[@CharterForGaming]

"Hello Kholek my old friend, I have come to you again"

[@The_Blackshield]

Kholek oh Kholek, where hast thou been? Your mighty self, your gleaming hammer, alas so rarely seen.

[@Glassjesus]

With the nerf to Fleshy Abundance, the Nurgle Exalted Hero is now almost as good as a healer as the Nurgle Sorcerer is in terms of raw healing, and his healing costs NO WINDS OF MAGIC! The math: Overcasted Fleshy Abundance (OFA) costs 25 WOM when fully upgraded through skills (I think), so if we assume one has 125 WOM total in a hypothetical battle with only single entities, it can be cast 5 times in total. OFA heals for 1.6% over 19 ticks, which amounts to 30.4% healed for each of the 4 affected units, totalling 121.5% healing with one cast. This can be done 5 times in this hypothetical battle, totalling 608% healing, 6 units' worth of health. Locus of Fecundity (LoF) heals for 0.8% over 12 ticks for 9.6%, which can be done 3 times over the course of the battle for a total of 28,8% healing per unit. Since LoF has no limit on affected targets it means that in this battle the healing done is multiplied by 20, for a total of 576% healing. If you have a reinforcing army of single entities, this amount is even higher. And remember, this costs NO WINDS OF MAGIC! Edit: Forgot to factor in the lore of Nurgle passive which amounts to 100% extra healing when cast 5 times, so it's actually 708.

[@Loj84]

It’d probably work well to take both of them for a doomstack like this. Even without casting FA, just using the lore passive like in this battle plus the exalted hero should heal close to cap.

[@andrewrobb3258]

Wtf they nerf nurgles heal like that. It healing everyone was what made it unique from lore of life heal. It costing more winds was the consequences but them nerfing the number it heals defects the point. Considering most play campaigns nerfing makes little sense.

[@dexteradams6515]

I love watching him play as Choas and trying very hard to save as many troops as possible. It's almost like his armies are valuable.

[@Yuusha09]

I'm a huge fan of the Chaos Sorcerer of Nurgle being on a warshrine. It's very easy to get maxed missile resist on a Chaos Sorcerer and the warshrine gives AOE regen around it. The AI also love to target it with ranged attacks, but it has max resist and 14k HP, so it just absorbs fire for your damage dealers. It's like having Festus in every army with twice his normal hp and the ability to keep both auras up.

[@obiwanzenobi]

4:48 outbrained by wood elves

[@mihneaadr]

CCs funny as usual, though a "Dragon ogre shagger doomstack" sounds more like something Azazel would build =)))

[@TheSpaceWomble]

I don't know why but it always makes me giggle to myself when I just constantly hear Legends mouse clicking along all throughout the video 😄

[@Harbaron]

This was super subtle, I’m very impressed. Hello old friend!

[@x0lopossum]

I have missed this doomstack so much.

[@Caraunus]

that's what she said

[@astari24]

HAHAHA, I was not expecting the AI to outmaneuver your tri-flank. That was the best AI I have seen in Warhammer to date

[@danielr.3645]

New series Idea : Save your disaster 10/10 Doomstack battle

[@gruuts1844]

the issue with that wizard at the end is very likely because of attack animations. Kholek (and a lot of other units) stop to perform their swing (attack), and by the time the swing hits the opponent the opponent has moved a bit which causes it to miss. Makes it almost impossible for units that dont have a moving charge attack animation to properly persue single entities running away from them. Pretty much only dragons are really good at hitting units running away from them because they have that leap attack animation

[@TheRotMGPerson]

Skarbrand also has a running kick to the head which does a great job in those cases

[@lukebaldis]

26:14 that horse 🗿

[@ordohereticus5530]

They nerfed Fleshy Abundance that hard? God damn.

[@Temmoi3e]

I thought they buffed it since you can heal 4 units now?

[@nikephoros9297]

@@Temmoi3e only when overcast. Before the patch, it affected all units in the area when overcast. It's a heavy nerf, especially for armies like this, but if you just have a few single entities and characters, it's still good.

[@TheHammertimeable]

To be fair it was ridiculously strong

[@ordohereticus5530]

@Temmoi3e I thought there wasn't a unit healing cap period when overcasting?

[@Temmoi3e]

@@nikephoros9297 I see, I never knew you can overcast it for all unit heal 😭

[@imadork123]

I'm currently finishing up a campaign and it has a WE endgame crisis. And yep I sure FEEL it! I tried to surround a single sister of the thorn unit with 20 units of dragon knights. Couldn't manage it - they're so damn slippery!

[@colbunkmust]

the four unit healing cap wouldn't be such a nerf if the game actually targeted the right units to heal in a blob instead of selcting units at random.

[@mp5284]

True I always get bad luck and heal only units missing 3 hp

[@alirezarezaei2976]

We should create a competition to see which race is the absolute OP Dwarfs or Wood Elves or Warriors of Chaos

[@Weberkooks]

It's wood elves

[@l_ArAxus_l]

Scarbrand with no competion

[@JaxaansePizza]

The Changeling

[@simonsoupshark8009]

@@JaxaansePizza a player controlled changeling sure but if all are AI it has to be be dwarfs or wood elves. i think wood elves are stronger overall but dwarf legendary lords are nigh unkillabale

[@nathanspreitzer6738]

Roster: Wood elves Campaign: Chaos Dwarfs although you can make a great argument for Skarbrand or Taurox

[@msf47]

9:20 damn that dragon wanted to drag that spell caster in the bushes and do things to him

[@krispypriest5116]

Hello Kholek my old friend, were here to smash elves again..... Thanks Legend!

[@auze222]

Always good to see fellow moving mountian with a hammer enjoyers, gigachads if you will

[@Harbringer231]

Lol, I've been doing Shaggoth doomstacks every time I confederate Kholek as Archaon or Belakor since IE launched. Glad it's getting the recognition it deserves!

[@ethanwilliams1880]

Meh, it's still bad. Any of the good doomstacks would've rolled over those WE armies without so much damage taken. As for WoC doomstacks, think greater daemons and minotuars of khorne, along with several others, and even manticores are better.

[@Marqhll]

As a Wood Elf player I don't enjoy seeing my people being massacred. But this was an interesting battle.

[@IREAPCATS]

3 years since the release? God times going fast Boyd

[@guffi00]

Legend was sweating so much; 10 minutes into I forgot if it's a disaster battle, or a doomstack video

[@aa-tr9xt]

4:47 this was the move that made legend cry

[@2D_SVD]

I legit seen a slayer model being invincible (at like 5hp after army losses) in the midst of my 15 units of chosen of khorne. Skarbrand's breath attack was the only thing that worked after all.

[@lasakour8584]

oh lord it's like we're back in 2021

[@tehpronoob7380]

Haha I am currently working on a Shaggoth doomstack. Wanted to send it in when it was done, seems like I wasn't the only one

[@stepankadlec8827]

In a Throgg capaign, I spent more than 6minutes trying to kill one last slayer with multipple trolls. In the end I needed to pull everyone back and vomit on that one dwarf...

[@a_latyshev]

I hope the person who coded the WE battle AI wasn't made redundant, such a good job (but annoying to fight against)

[@KazeKoichi]

Hello darkness, my old friend.

[@torquevonthorne948]

Those great stag knights become great stag steaks in a matter of seconds. 🦌🍖

[@TrapsterJ]

One day CA will watch these videos and make a patch the day after the video for something massive like the AI

[@UCeagle79]

Time to start another chaos campaign.

[@Shadow.24772]

16:12 Koleg doing zigzag in one spot trying to turn in a circle... remember when units had the "mongol" circle ability? you'd think they could cap units to run in circles if you give the drag order of a circle on the map. CA spaghetti code at it's finest

[@Madik-y1t]

man talking about edging gaddaaammmnn

[@Nobdythere]

Am I the only one that thinks there should be a dragonogre hero or lord?

[@davidbohn1874]

Wow, crazy impressive!

[@MrStaridever28]

As a fan of historical total war games, I have no fucking clue what is happening here I love this channel, try to give warhammer chance here and there... All I know is Legend is abusing that poor mouse button

[@jakubs.5966]

Are you sure? You don't want to go and join the doomers of Volound team?

[@DarkDemise6066]

Once you see a giant suplex a dragon it's hard to go back to historical TW games. At least for me lol so much variety.

[@cassiecaradoc2070]

I think their "I got knocked down and thus can't take damage for a bit" rules had some unintended consequences when combined with fighting high mass entities.

[@talonmarshal]

closed captions says: dragon ogre shagger

[@eshaan570]

Oh boy oh boy shaggoths how ive missed you

[@unliky276]

I didn’t know the wood elves AI was better then the other race Is it only in battle or they make better decisions on the battlefield as well. Also the AI that’s the most disappointing for me is the Skaven because of their terrible army It’s so weird that when it’s a player skaven are so op but the AI realy is clueless

[@unifiedhorizons2663]

I’ve noticed skraven behave like Zerg rush. empire never protects there artillery. wood elves send in there heavy units and engages with archers first then engages with melee infantry

[@Xeonzs]

I always disable the high elf crisis because it's just such a pain to fight them, it's like the opposite of skaven, I only want to auto resolve against them.

[@maxpower3990]

High Elf crises? Do you mean Wood Elf Crisis?

[@Count.Saruman]

There is no High Elf crisis. There should be, though. It's the perfect way to create a different kind of crisis, with heavily minmaxed doomstacks under all their LLs which once killed stay dead. Imrik with Dragons, Alarielle with Sisters, Tyrion with Nobles, Teclis with phoenixes, Eltharion with Mistwalkers, Alith with Shadow-walkers and such. Each doomstack could give powerful items or factionwide bonuses once defeated.

[@pocket_sand6645]

I think wood elves are universally hated as an opponents. Crazy OP roster with damage out the ass and nasty arrows. Whenever they declare war on me on legendary, I always march at them with overwhelming amount of force to autoresolve all the battles no matter the losses, because fighting them manually drains my soul

[@Вейн-э5б]

And then Drycha be like: - Ha ha ha, trees go bonk those pointy ears

[@Count.Saruman]

Chaos Dwarfs actually do have some good counters to them.

[@Snockooz]

I almost wonder if the nurgle warshrine would have been better for the caster... I know it would be targeted a lot but the extra healing might have made up for it.

[@CatroiOz]

Guess who's back 🎶🎶 back again 🎶🎶 suneater's back !

[@Samuel034]

Is that a Babylon 5 reference? If so that's a deep cut :P

[@bofad6074]

Id love to see how legend would fare playing as the wood elves in this fight. if only the Ai could build proper doomstacks. I give them extra cheats and they still cant get their shit together

[@Vladislavaklyma]

Imagine Shoggoth doom SWARM

[@dmitriygryaznov9210]

Doomswarm of Dragon Ogre Shaggoth, or DDOS. The epicness is in the name even.

[@Ryushiin.]

Wasn't it actuially useless to try blocking woodelves missles in the Forest, since they get more accuracy and other advantages when inside the forest? I remember an Ungrim campaign I played, where I wanted to yolo 2,5 stacks woodelves with Ungrim alone, but they kept shooting me once I wasnit in a blob anymore. And they hit better when I was in the forest...

[@SGProductions87]

They kept that quiet in the patch notes.

[@jaybowlick9854]

A Disaster Stack 😂😂😂

[@ophilipp7292]

ok, i gotta ask : i never really even get to that point in my campaigns, i love playing pokemon's of chaos and collecting (confederating) all the legendary lords, but as a side effect (and coz WoC are busted) the campaigns done long before i would get up to that many shaggoths. am i doing something wrong, is there a trick to get them much faster ?

[@CrazyWolverine]

I wish you actually played the 2nd "easier" battle to show how easy it would be, nice battle tho

[@Coerciveutopian]

Wouldn't fleshy abundance still be better? You get the healing and the 1% bonus heal.

[@sebastianromero2583]

It’s supposed to be a doomstack, control group attack, if it can’t dumb win it ain’t a true doom stack

[@MEGABUMSTENCH]

[@staticdrutis2566]

is the ai super good because they are the smallest playable faction? that would makes sense to me

[@geirgudj1]

I thoght there was a cap on how many you could get. what changed?

[@bar_jumper1312]

patch 5.3.0 changed some things for charging units like human boi yesyes showed yesterday

[@mrperfectjeff]

Lol I only wanna see 1 or 2 heros in a stack army while also saying being 3 or 4 heros for skaven and dwarfs

[@dantheman1744]

Woodelves are op because certain devs love them and favor them. Kinda like the sisters when they dropped in wh2 they were the STRONGEST OF THE STRONG.

[@Count.Saruman]

WE are certainly strong, but Sisters weren't even the strongest faction in their own dlc. High Elves were definitely the head honchos of WH2 until Taurox came around.

[@beratseyhan9996]

I have been saying this shit since Warhammer 1. Wood Elves are the most annoying and most dangerous AI nation. I hate them.

[@sergoogle5061]

Hello Kholek my old friend..~

[@xathlak]

The beauty of nurgle wizards is that they can slow down the enemy

[@morty6381]

Ofcourse they nerf it..

[@kakaomilch5905]

Can yo utry and make yur mouse clicks not that loud ?

[@mohannedyaakoubi5273]

Ai factions tier list?

[@connermay11]

almost number 1

[@pawelm8593]

great vid. but this mouse clicking destroys pleasure. Its so loud

[@lite4998]

The reason I stopped playing Warhammer total war is simply because of how derpy combat is. Especially when it comes to large units, single entities and routing units.

[@Tayletubby]

Mourn your male family members, Ivan.

[@GAMER123GAMING]

@@Tayletubby cope

[@Tayletubby]

@@GAMER123GAMING with what

[@alinlight4210]

Maaan so thats why you didnt cover my taurox doomstack 🤣 it was unbelievable pff it would have obliterated those 4 stacks in minutes

[@psychedellictoxin1195]

This is why SFO is better, stops doom stacks like this.

[@morty6381]

I dont get it, this game coud be so much fun if they drop they policy about nerfing stuff witch is obiously verry good, like Tamurkhan trait, they coud not just make it to plus one hero capacity they make it in to somethink completly usles, it's fucking single player, 96% campaigns never even fight Tamurkhan.. meanwhile gate bug is in the game since beginning, your units start climbing walls even if they stand before open gate.. its so dumb. Helldivers 2 had the same tipe of polyci they keep nerfing guns and players hated it so they did 180° turn buff every gun and guess what.. all players love it and game get 4x times more players

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

Don’t put up ladders to avoid gate bug

[@morty6381]

@@shmekelfreckles8157 Thanks, i know how to avoid it.. but gate bug and your uinuts ignoring open gate are two diferent things

[@Yuusha09]

There's also that other gate bug where a unit can get thrown on the other side of a closed gate, leaving them alone to get ganked.

[@morty6381]

@@Yuusha09 That is THE gate bug.. enemy units close tho the gate can open it and your units will get stuck

[@constantineanagnos8882]

13:14 mrw I fight Imrik

[@olafthemoose9413]

How do you even get a 20 stack of dragon ogre shaggoths? Can't you only get 6 of them in an army?

[@mariowattimena4013]

When playing as shadow legion, ya can recruit as many daemonic units or monsters like dragon ogre shoggots as ya want iirc.

[@olafthemoose9413]

@mariowattimena4013 oh that's interessting. I suspected something like that.

[@patrickdaly1088]

"Warhammer 3 is better than Warhammer 2" and then 6 shaggoths including kholek take more than a minute to kill a routing lord with

[@lergat]

How he managed to get 18 shaggots in one army? I thought you could only have 6 in the same army. Edit: spelling

[@Mile2357]

Only possible with Shadow legion - Warrior of Chaos faction led by Be’lakor

[@DMfromTheAbyss]

Playing as Belakor gets around the limit. Warriors of Chaos has the limit, Belakor is Demons of Chaos who can get warriors of Chaos to confederate.

[@Mile2357]

@@DMfromTheAbyss no, he is not part of Daemons of Chaos, he is part of Warriors of chaos, just simply has no limit on gifted units

[@lergat]

@@Mile2357 I played last year a Be'Lakor campaign and confederated all the other WoC, included Kholek, but I believe it had the 6 unit limit. I would have to check it when I have time.

[@anteep4900]

We've all welcomed back an old friend today! God bless America!

[@omarali262]

Legend are you celebrating Trump's victory? I know you've had a profound shift from being a left-wing guy to a right wing guy over the past 5 years. What do you think?

[@Tomezilla514]

He's Australian, why would he give a fuck? Besides, politics don't belong here so GTFO with that shit.

[@GAMER123GAMING]

He has?

[@omarali262]

@@GAMER123GAMING Do you even watch his streams? lol

[@GAMER123GAMING]

@@omarali262 eh, not really

[@omarali262]

@@GAMER123GAMING he talks about it often, he got alienated by many things, he had this big comment he wrote in support of lore master of sotek when sotek did a video talking about “fascism” in Warhammer community some years ago, and he mentioned he deleted it a few years later because he realized he was wrong. He also said he feels anti white sentiment is becoming too big for him to ignore