Hellraiser: Hellworld (Dead Meat Podcast Ep. 204)

[@CaleU011]

"Gooning yourself to death" brings a whole new meaning to Dead Meat

[@thatweirdlesbian-]

Oh boy do I love having eyes

[@beckyhop13]

Fun fact, I once looked up the Hellraiser tag on AO3 and I was startled to see more than one fic featuring Henry Cavill's character from this movie, because I didn't think there were enough fanfic writers who even knew Hellworld existed. I'm not explaining why I was looking up horror movie fandom tags on AO3.

[@Ezra_Scales]

You gotta consume a lot of media to be a fanfic writer, especially if you're so far deep into the rabbit hole that you've seen Hellworld lol

[@arianapadilla9351]

I have also looked up Hellraiser on AO3, no shame 😂

[@jackgardner2514]

Live your journey

[@madeofmeats]

You’d be really surprised what characters do and don’t have a ton of fics written about them lmfao

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

You mentioned Henry Cavill....that's enough

[@tibb75]

The video store near my house "Mike & Ted's Excellent Video Adventures" went out of business my senior year of high school. They sold their stock for like 25 cents a piece. I got so many obscure horror movies because everyone else went for the regular movies, games, and new stuff. Anyway, I got the entire Hellraiser franchise for 2 dollars

[@Youspoonybard1]

Honestly for 95% of them (minus the two or three good ones) that’s more than I’d still pay for them. Great deal honestly.

[@MorganVsTheInternet]

I love how Chelsea threw James under the bus for picking Hellraiser Hellworld for the podcast!

[@americangirl4879]

😉

[@alexandrzarezin7765]

They literally said that it was James' idea! jeez

[@MorganVsTheInternet]

@@alexandrzarezin7765​​⁠​​⁠​⁠It's almost like this comment was made after Chelsea said that it was James' idea! Jeez!

[@alexandrzarezin7765]

I am sorry that I wrote a stupid comment because I thought "throw under the bus" means to surprise, now I know that it means to blame.

[@ryanbeatbox8274]

recognising your mistakes and admitting so is such a rarity online it seems. makes sense its in the Dead Meat community. Thank for being a good human.@@alexandrzarezin7765

[@RainWelsh]

36:41 the extras discussion, so, I have a favourite dancing extra of my own, in Blade 2. There’s a scene in a nightclub, and then at some point Blade leaves the dance floor and is walking up a flight of stairs, and there’s an extra at the bottom of the stairs who’s dancing in a manner I can only describe as “driving an invisible car (including gear changes)”, and it just tickles the hell out of me, especially knowing there’s probably no music playing. Your man’s just vibing while Wesley Snipes does his thing, I love it, good on you Dancing Extra

[@coolnerdlll6053]

My top three are: - The guy running down the beach with a s**t eating grin after Alex gets eaten in Jaws. - The girl getting hit by the countertop in Willy Wonka. - The guy bouncing off the propeller blade in Titanic.

[@willhargreaveshf]

You're right, Chelsea. This IS what we like.

[@bambiherrera13]

Chelsea thinking the cop put a donut in his pocket and James telling her it was actually drugs KILLED me. Best podcast ever

[@dameos1986]

I love how Chelsea cut James off talking about MMOs and he ended up saying "I never got into a MMORGP, I had so many friends growing up" I died

[@ravenjackson6512]

"The lament configuration's black friend" You kind of ate that up James 😂😂I'll give you that one lol

[@drguthrie7621]

Chelsea has a point, a hellraiser based puzzle game where your like navigating the cenobite world and maz to escape through a bunch of really grotesque puzzles and stuff would be a very good game (if done right)

[@davidjsaul]

Enter modern games publishers: "sounds perfect for a live service model!"

[@konstance13]

It could be cool if there were multiple "moral paths" too, like whether you embrace the sadism like Uncle Frank and become a cenobite, or try to escape and destroy the lament configuration.

[@Salmon_Samurai]

Sounds like Scorn tbh.

[@alexandrzarezin7765]

Chelsea, great news! The novel Hellbound is available as an audiobook on KZbin, it is so well-voiced and only 3 hours long! Enjoy! And thanks so much to you two for a Hellraiser podcast!

[@matthewganong1730]

I think the version on KZbin is read by Clive Barker himself.

[@Youspoonybard1]

@@matthewganong1730there is a version with him yeah, I’ve heard a few VA’s do it also.

[@rogue-taxidermy_griffin]

This is why I come onto the KZbin release to see the comments. Thanks! I was just looking for the audiobook

[@alexandrzarezin7765]

I believe his voice is pretty different.@@matthewganong1730

[@coolnerdlll6053]

James and Chelsea are probably the best KZbinrs that talk about bad movies, because they do try to be positive no matter what, which is always nice in the toxic cesspool that is this platform.

[@jinxysaberk]

it’s because both of them realise the effort that goes into making movies and how hard it is as they were both involved in the industry. James straight up hates cinema sins

[@coolnerdlll6053]

​@@jinxysaberkI don't think Cinema Sins is supposed to be genuine film criticism (which isn't a defense of it in the slightest), but people unfortunately think it is.

[@Tensto]

@@coolnerdlll6053 Cinema sins passes their actual uninformed opinions under the guise of satire so they can use that as defense from criticism of their format, it's real bad

[@FeistyFem-bt6yc]

Hard agree and I’m a certified hater.

[@ianbyrne465]

​@@coolnerdlll6053don't want to get too far into this discussion, but I agree to a fault. Cinemasins *began* as a non-serious series. Then over time, they began writing in more and more or their actual feelings alongside the jokes. You can watch their independent reviews and see alot of the same exact points made in CS videos. After awhile, the actual criticism and the joke criticisms start to blend together and become unrecognizable.

[@Look_look_at_my_cats]

When James said Doug Bradley tapped out after this because he had standards, but he went on to make Wrong Turn 5, so he doesn't know what those standards were, I died laughing. The shade!!!

[@matthewganong1730]

I think his standards are how many zeros are on the check they hand him. He dropped out after this because he said they offered him “less than the cost of a nice refrigerator” for Revelations.

[@ianbyrne465]

I love when you can tell James and Chelsea has a good time with a bad movie. So much fun to watch

[@TheSoulessPoet]

You can read The Hellbound Heart in an afternoon. I'd highly recommend it.

[@Werewolf914]

Yeah it's short and sweet, I will say the movie is better I loved that the movie changed Kirsty to be Larry/Rory Daughter instead of just a friend who hates Julia and wants to bang him, but I still really love The Hellbound Heart

[@matthewganong1730]

“The Hellbound Heart” is such a quick and fun read. It’s also remarkable how close the original film sticks to it. It’s also a great gateway drug into Clive Barker’s writing style in general. I’ve had a few people over the years ask me where to start with Clive Barker and I always recommend “The Hellbound Heart.” After that, his “Books of Blood” short story collections are amazing, and really show off the extent of his imagination.

[@elliehime440]

I think what Chelsea needs is Scooby-Doo and the Cyber Chase

[@Hamza-rd6jk]

Counter offer: Scooby Doo on Zombie Island

[@NerdyNick95]

@@Hamza-rd6jkthey already covered zombie island on the podcast haha

[@Hamza-rd6jk]

@@NerdyNick95 hot damn you're right! How did I miss this episode?!

[@KTKZon58]

2 Things: _Poor Things_ is a novel adaptation and _every_ episode of Degrassi was a Very Special Episode™😂

[@matthewchandler1252]

I had an idea for a Dead Meat video game. A 1 to 2 player Dead Rising style game where you play as James and Chelsea and the people you have to save are all the members of the Dead Meat team, and Josh is your contact on the radio watching the cameras. It could be called Meat of the Dead.

[@RedSpade37]

When can we have the demo?

[@ryanbeatbox8274]

As much as I adored my time going through the deadmeat catalogue when I discovered your channel, the podcasts are my favourite uploads. Zorans did a phenomenal job covering james with the tremors videos too.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

BIXBY!

[@Unidan]

The second I heard “baby looked at him” and heard Chelsea’s laugh, I braced for the Simpsons ref and wheezed

[@darkmoonhomevideo3252]

I feel like this and Stay Alive would make an interesting double feature lol

[@SeattleWaffle]

Oh for sure

[@tommym7321]

Hellworld holds a special place in my heart like Stay Alive and Black Christmas (2006) because it was always randomly on one of the big premium networks and became a background/comfort movie. It feels like trying to go to sleep knowing I have school tomorrow after an afternoon of playing Gamecube. It feels homey.

[@marymartin2154]

Thank you so much for saying this! I have had so many horror movie dudebros call me a fake horror fan because I have a soft spot for both Stay Alive and Black Christmas (2006) because as a teenager, one of the premium channels my household had had those movies for free on demand and I watched them over and over to feed my horror movie needs.

[@CarlivanderMerwe-m6o]

I hereby petition for a Paranormal Pool Party-style Hellraiser podcast series, please! Loved this episode!

[@thepancakereviewer]

Poor Things and Hellraiser: Hellworld is probably the best double feature anyone could ask for.

[@TheLovelyLadybug]

I once met Henry Cavill at an con and I asked him how he felt about this movie. He groaned and said “why couldn’t you ask me about Super-Man?”

[@Kharr]

Petition for Hellraiser 5-7, Revelations, Judgement and Hellraiser 2022 to be covered as podcast episodes

[@ace7zar3]

A couple years ago my friend and I watched all of the Hellraiser movies to prepare for the 2022 film and it was a miserable experience. Thank you for covering Hellworld because it makes that experience a little more worth it.

[@alanmiller7875]

what an invitation to Cavil: "will you come on our show and talk about your worst movie?"

[@jasrianna]

idk if it's his worst movie at this point. Have you seen Argylle? Oof. And I say this as a Cavil fan.

[@alanmiller7875]

I haven't... though I heard he's good in it despite it being a total mess.@@jasrianna

[@coolnerdlll6053]

@@jasrianna I don't know. This sounds worse than any of Cavill's DCEU movies, and Argylle looked bad, but not anywhere near as bad as JW's Justice League (I haven't seen the Snyder Cut).

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

Based on the little I have heard about him as a person, I feel like he would be a good sport about it.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

​@@coolnerdlll6053Snyder cut is super long but it is vastly superior.

[@netobarro7724]

Love the hellraiser series, i don't know why but something about inferno I really enjoy, maybe its because the main character is a horrible person, or the ending. Idk, would make my year to see them covered.

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

I like Inferno, Deader, and Hellseeker out of that era. They're probably closer thematically to Silent Hill than they are to Hellraiser but I can live with that lol. Do they hold a candle to 1 and 2? Nope. But I'll take the 'crappy' Hellraiser movies (mostly) over almost any other horror franchise's later entries because they sort of all do the off-the-tracks shit eventually. Except Freddy I'll stand by those lol. Nightmare series is pretty consistent.

[@RetroIsaac]

​@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control Dude...i love the nightmare movies, but Freddies Dead is genuinely the worst movie ive ever seen 😭

[@tracerjames51]

So this movie is why Henry Cavill just said he hates sex scenes and thinks they’re overused.

[@sabreveitch3554]

Lemont Configuration is my drag king name

[@jayjonesrgaming]

As a Canadian I can confirm it’s de-grass-ee. At least that’s how everyone I know up here pronounces it

[@penumbra84]

Man this episode just keeps on giving. "Henry Cavill just came himself to death" is gonna be a fucking GREAT line going forward.

[@moviebuffer93]

I really don’t get the whole people complaining about Pinhead being out of character in part 3 though. It’s established in the storyline that he’s been split into 2 separate entities : 1 good 1 bad , and that he no longer has to abide by the cenobite code, so it makes sense that he would be more evil and a little different than the previous iteration of the character.

[@ProjectPossum]

“Le’Mont Configuration.” “Hellraiser University.”

[@array9500]

I instantly read that in Keegan Michael Key's voice haha

[@juliachristine9610]

Thank you Chelsea and James for acknowledging your dedicated podcast following we may be small compared to the kill count audience but i get so much out of every podcast they are gems for our horror community discourse ❤️

[@ЮрийЗарезин]

Huge thank you James and Chelsea for choosing an entry from this franchise! Make more podcasts about them please! You can have an experimental podcast about all the movies in the franchise as a whole! Fellow Meaties, give a like to this suggestion if you want such an episode!

[@burlappap]

I watch the podcast every single time I go to college and on my way back home. Been a big movie guy my whole life and I love horror movies so these podcasts are perfect for my drives❤

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

24:40 I always refer to it as 'LaMarchand's Box'. From my understanding of words, 'Lament configuration' is just a setting that it has. When you put the box into that configuration, it opens the door. It's also a hella cool name.

[@jessicapaige1901]

This was one of the most delightful casts you two have done. I giggled so many times and thought this was a great time

[@pi3.1415-y]

i just wanted to put it out there, that almost 2 years ago i met a man called Miroslav Lakobrija at a Grossmann event and he and his coworker Andrijana let me stay woth them bc i didn't have any place to sleep. I then found out he worked on special fx for A serbian film and then he showed me pictures of him creating some practical fx for the new hellraiser movie😱 I literally couldn't believe it 😭 And i was so mac bc no one i knew thought this was cool so i hope someone reads this and understands how cool this experience was🥹 Also he was very nice💕

[@NCsPride704]

8:11 YES! They did finally bring it back to respectability. So PLEASE cover it. The effects in this movie were fantastic.

[@bts_vinyl]

lol Chelsea I also immediately recognized the actor playing Jake from being in Degrassi

[@Basarius]

Chelsea is 100% correct. You need schlock to appreciate the good stuff. Commercial stuff can be boring but random, shitty films you'd watch with your friends at a sleep over at 3 in the morning are what it's all about. Also 6:30 Booyah!!

[@americangirl4879]

Love the immediate throwing under of bus lol

[@0228Big]

So happy to hear you say bad movies need to exist! I love Mandy and Hereditary but I can't watch movies like that every day. Sometimes it's just fun to wanna watch Lance Henriksen earn a paycheck.

[@malirupene3893]

I absolutely agree that the podcast episodes where yall cover shitty as movies are some of my favourites, second only to the weird game eps. keep em coming please :)

[@graveyxrdbxby]

this is my favourite hellraiser sequel. theres something about horror from the early 2000s that are generally considered terrible that i love so much. i never really thought you guys would cover this so this is very special to me

[@graveyxrdbxby]

i have to say, the ending twist was actually interesting to me and the idea of being so scared you just die is terrifying in itself

[@Dilzik]

I am excited. I usually listen to these on spotify but I NEEDED to watch this one. I emailed about Darkness Falls ages ago and hearing it get mentioned once in the past got me so stoked

[@_PeaceSim]

I've long felt like I'm the only person who genuinely likes this movie 🤣 The actual 'Hellworld' video game concept is weakly-presented, but I think the movie tells a strong story that's pretty entertaining and clever. Yes the cenobites act like generic slasher villains, but (until the last scene) that makes a lot of sense in the context of the movie when you find out what's really happening. Lance Henriksen is so good in it too. I've encountered a lot of people baffled by the 'surviving' characters seeing his image at the end, but I've always seen that as establishing that the whole 'saved by the ghost friend' bit didn't really happen and that the 'surviving' characters are merely imagining their escape in a drug-induced haze. It's by far my favorite Hellraiser entry from movies 5-10.

[@cinnyxo]

yesss i love watching yall talk about bad movies equally as much as i love watching yall talk about great movies.

[@admiralweb27]

I live for James defending The Good Place. All-time great show, I would kill for you guys to discuss it in some way (Maybe my killing would be the horror elements lol)

[@Turbo_Waitress]

The stupid stuff is my favorite. I think Cry/Wolf was my first episode of the podcast after subscribing and still one of my favorites. I went and watched the movie just to get the most out of it and it was so funny to hear you guys talk about it. So please keep reviewing bad, ridiculous, or stupid horror movies. They make for some awesome listening.

[@Clark226]

I always saw that first trap in Saw, not as falling apart, but that's just what happened when he "completed" the trap and pushed the paddle past the knives and the barbed wire was just another "test" if he was to try and attack John

[@lucasbrotemarkle1464]

Lamont Configuration in East/West Bowl killed me 😭

[@markittystuff]

Both James and Chelsea going on a tangent before going on about the movie was great. I love that these films exist cause personally they opened me up to horror and exploring beyond what everyone else sees in horror other than the horror movies that everyone knows

[@hamzadawud]

I love it when you guys talk about the 2000s, since I too started college in 2007. Also, very odd to see Mr. Oleander from Degrassi in this movie, but according to TV Tropes, there are only so many Canadian actors.

[@lizardqueen7283]

I made it my goal to watch every hellraiser movie, and by the time I got to this one, my brain was so mush, haha. I spent most of my time yelling WTF at the TV, lol. So excited you guys are covering this

[@androgynous_rexx]

Last year I spent weeks, MONTHS watching all the hellraiser movies. Including revelations and judgment and the new one. What a fucking franchise ☠️

[@Pippa87]

My current partner and I bonded watching all the movies and if ever he wants to diffuse an argument he’ll just say “Hellraiser 7 is a cinematic masterpiece” and I’ll always be stunned into silence

[@Jer_Bearz]

Hearing Chelsea reference Degrassi: TNG makes me so happy to see my favorite things come together.

[@drayton.2078]

Poor Things was based on a book of the same name by Alisdair Gray actually! Originally published in 1992

[@samos4924]

Short sleeve over long sleeve works well for short sleeve jerseys or band tour tees with back graphics you don't want covered by a jacket.

[@Charlie-aka-Lee]

I, personally, never stopped wearing short sleeves over long sleeves tee-shirt

[@AttnDefDis_]

Resident Evil did that kill practically as well. Dude, gets cubed by a laser grid and falls apart. The behind the scenes on that movie is great.

[@Pippa87]

I have watched all the hellraisers just so I can tell other people save yourself: don’t watch past movie four (except the reboot which I do love). However: one plus about Hellraiser Hellworld is that if I ever meet Henry Cavil I can look him dead in the eye and say “I loved you in Hellraiser.”

[@STRANGEANATOMYBAND]

I forced myself through all the Hellraiser sequels a few years ago and I remember fast forwarding a lot when I got to this one.

[@wands90]

The only thing I really knew about this movie was the fact Khary Payton is in it, and the fact that he then went on to voice Cyborg from the 2000's Teen Titans and animated movies and then Aqualad in Young Justice.

[@bewarethemoonpodcast4377]

anytime chelsea does hand motions, molly looks so fed up and i love that

[@shellsilvers]

Dude Slasher is such a good horror anthology, even the seasons that are buckwild nonsense never phone it in, and all seasons except 5 have insane kills.

[@iidaemppuu]

I’ve only seen the first 3 seasons and I have to say, the first two are so good, I love the second season, it’s so gory and disturbing in some areas

[@freudianslipp]

me screaming "RUNESCAPE!!!!" at the screen while James discusses mmorpgs

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

I gave so much time to Runescape. 76 days worth of playtime. A lot of fun that I will never go back to.

[@Noobie2k7]

The game he qas trying to figure out though was likely Ultima Online. That was the big MMO before even Everquest. Runescape was 2001 while Everquest was 2000 so only game I can think of that was popular before Everquest is Ultima Online which came out in 1997.

[@DisembodiedScreams]

Another fun one. Love hearing them talk about movies like this. Need more bad to moderately good movies on the Podcast.

[@chadboffin]

I can never remember which of the later Hellraisers I've seen . They blend.

[@antchrist6987]

To anybody thinking about undertaking the Hellraiser franchise please take it from me. I have watched them all in a marathon from beginning to end. •Hellraiser one, two,and three(are Hellraiser movies and should be watched together) • Hellraiser: bloodline • Hellraiser: inferno •Hellraiser: Hellseeker •Hellraiser: Deader •Hellraiser: Hellworld (all of these movies are decent B-C horror movies that feel like the Cenobite were forced in as antagonist if changed sold B movies all around.) •Hellraiser: Revelations •Hellraiser: Judgment (Just honestly dumb or boring) •Hellraiser2022 (honestly really good movie a fresh breath back into the series) I generally love the franchise But basically, after three they’re not Hellraiser movies

[@nikkis.2066]

LOL I never thought I'd hear Dead Meat say the words "gooned himself to death, he goofed too hard" James going "if you're gonna go.." and my brain finished the sentence with the Tim Burton Batman Joker line "As my plastic surgeon said...if you're gonna go...go with a smile!"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@louis8487]

This movie introduced me to Celldweller. It will forever be beloved by me for that alone. Plus I do actually like the movie.

[@tvheadd]

Was waiting the whole time for james to say "Derek!" in the Billy Madison style and it never happened!😁❤️

[@Dontmindbb]

I did a marathon with my family and we were supposed to watch all of them. I made us stop after the cop hell one. The cop one was actually strenuous to watch.

[@mitchgrossman7447]

They call it La-mah-nt configuration in one of the other ones too, I forget which one (not in the original 4).

[@davidjsaul]

This constantly felt like a completely different movie which they retrofitted with Hellraiser characters for the sake of retaining the franchise licence. And apparently it was.

[@GhostofKittyKatDawg]

Now i want to see a video where Henry Cavill teaches James and Chelsea 40k

[@alexandrzarezin7765]

Can't stop watching these podcasts, they are so good!

[@VickyScreams]

I love hearing you two talk about dumb movies when you've had fun with them. My boyfriend ordered us your skelly necklaces and they arrived today. They're so cute.

[@dgiddigames]

I'm so sorry I've been so late to the podcast, I love this so much. Chelsea does great work.❤

[@darkhoffman8739]

So funny, I just watched this film the other night and love watching your take on it. I've seen most Hellraiser films but this is new to me and need to catch up on the rest

[@ringtail14]

I want Chelsea to watch the horror classic "Scooby Doo and the cyber chase"

[@reputation8383]

I would watch a Kill Count of Hellraiser: HellWorld multiple times to keep the numbers up. I have areal guilty pleasure love of this film.

[@newageprometheus]

15:00 I'm assuming he's talking about Runescape

[@BigMacDaddy]

Im not sure about scamming you out of your entire online account in an MMO (although that sounds plausible), but there is a lot of trade scamming that takes place. Where after you and them agree on what items to trade, they will subtly try to remove a few without you noticing before confirming the trade.

[@pearlythom]

An entire East West Bowl with all the names inspired by horror characters would be. absolutely. HYSTERICAL! James saying “Lamont Configuration” had me belly laughing!!! 😂

[@Jumpman42]

James that Lamont configuration joke was the funniest thing you ever said (I’m black)

[@braydonthegreat5099]

I can't believe I watched that to avoid spoilers and then ended up actually enjoying myself!

[@kyrathedestroyer_]

i’m not even a film girlie, but it’s something about these two discussing movies that makes me want to watch more films. edit: the lamont configuration jokes had been screaming 😂😂

[@M.Babadook]

This is one of my favorite podcast episodes.

[@calebwoods9029]

Great video. Hellraiser is my favorite horror series! Well at least tied with The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. There's 11 Hellraiser films so far! Insane.

[@paulfrank8632]

James and Chelsea gotta just show up on the Argylle press run and only ask Henry Cavill about this movie lol

[@cjcurtisplus5]

You know what they say, a couple who scares together pairs together

[@thegothravager]

I've seen all the Hellraisers except for Judgement. I gave up after the one that came before it. When you guys said the Lamont configuration, I immediately thought of the bad guy from Jackie Chan Adventures and died from the Canadian brother joke 😂

[@doomeddeacon]

Yes yes yes! Just started and I'm so excited for this episode!

[@AkaruAbsolution]

"The website shuts off at midnight" - No joke, this is literally what the official state unemployment claims website for Florida does. They have it "open" from like 6am-8pm and then shut it down for """maintenance""" at all other hours. I was doing my taxes last minute and couldn't log in to get a form they were supposed to have emailed me. Actual Hellworld.