Worst Horror Husbands (Dead Meat Podcast Ep. 207)

[@domsharpe5936]

I was thinking Alex Le Domas from Ready or Not. He's such a whiny baby and he totally knew about the curse and just didn't tell Grace or give her the chance to back out.

[@regina1292]

Same!

[@CreatePeace612]

I was scrolling for this comment! I don't believe he actively tried to kill her so, for me, it narrowly escapes a Jack Torrance situation. But he is truly despicable.

[@lovestumacher]

Thank you! I immediately thought of Alex too

[@CatherineStokes-i2e]

same, i was surprised not to see him

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

Like, even if he hadn't tried to sacrifice her in the end, the fact he didn't warn her about the possibility of pulling the hide-n-seek card shows he cared more about owning her than about keeping her safe

[@tajjax1809]

Now I am petitioning for the worst best friend march madness next year 😂 my bet is already on Juno from the Descent

[@MorriganReads]

I went spelunking a couple years ago, and the whole time I was thinking about that movie. If a best friend can be that bad that it gives me an entirely new type of anxiety, she deserves to win.

[@weirdguy1495]

Those jackasses from Truth or Dare would be my pick on that bracket.

[@tajjax1809]

@@weirdguy1495 those are good contenders too!

[@angel_bow20]

I would also put Blair from Unfriended she is the reason literally everyone died in that movie

[@tajjax1809]

@@angel_bow20 that’s a top one For sure!

[@plectrumura]

If we ever do a BEST friend, instead of worst bestie bracket, I’m nominating Rod from Get Out. Most clutch best friend in movie history.

[@weirdguy1495]

TS. Motherfuckin' A. We handle shit.

[@G.F.Browning]

He's TS MUTHA FUCKIN A they handle shit consider the shit handled! Rod was the GOAT!

[@nollypolly]

Yes! Rod hands down!

[@coolnerdlll6053]

"You in some Eyes Wide Shut situation! Leave, motherf***a!"

[@ResaChiic]

absolutely 1000% i'm also so glad jordan peele went with the Rod ending instead of the other tragic ending

[@rebeccajohnson8712]

I love how no one ever refers to Ethan Hawke’s characters by name, they are all just Ethan Hawke

[@Nenernener123]

You mean Kevin Bacon? 😹 IYKYK

[@adamnaameeazim6365]

There's one exception, the Grabber.

[@sweetstacks3631]

Gerald calling himself daddy always gets me when you take into account what happened to Jess when she was a kid. Gives me shivers every time.

[@JinxMarie1985]

That gives me such gross vibes. Every time I hear someone say call me daddy or anything like that makes me fuckin sick.

[@lamiyahjackson5686]

Yeahhh, that’s why I was thinking Gerald should clear the whole game.

[@adammccullough9167]

I think Derek from Malignant was horrible as well. Shoes on the bed, abusive, and blames Madison for miscarriages.

[@MonyXChan]

I think you can count him slamming her head into a wall an attempt on her life, hence why he isn't here. That disqualifies him.

[@chatterbox7481]

Shoes on the bed… SHOES ON THE BED???? Disgusting. Someone put Derek in the dumpster

[@basementdwellercosplay]

That falls into the too bad list like the husband from Rosemary's Baby, like these are douches not full on abusers

[@stormy_knights4568]

I think the reason Christian hits so hard for people is because he’s such a human character we’ve all had run ins with someone like that so it just adds a layer to that

[@kastro8065]

And I think that's the reason that discounts him from getting far in this bracket lol. Being so real and grounded in reality when compared to some of the almost cartoonish villainous actions of the other characters makes him the most "regular" not-so-great person in this entire bracket lol. It's like the "hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby" meme lol. If it wasn't for the major events of Midsommar, Dani and Christian would simply break up and both live regular lives. It's hard to say that for any of the other horror husbands/couples.

[@makeminemonsters]

My immediate thought was Helen Lyle's husband from Candyman, not only is he (probably) cheating on her with one of his students when the movie begins, Helen's 4 weeks committed to an institution and he moved the student INTO their house and is letting her paint the walls. Like. Dude. Look at your life, look at your choices.

[@markittystuff]

I'm SO glad that Sinister got mentioned. Ethan Hawke's character wasn't gonna escape this one! That point made about "We didn't move two doors from another murder house, we moved IN to the murder house." It feels so real but also hilariously around the rules something like Homer Simpson would do or say.

[@RacecarAnimated]

Now I'm going to picture Homer Simpson in his role the next time I watch it. :D

[@dylanclark1575]

Micah is the ultimate “gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss.” This guy practically invented this genre of dude.

[@faithjacqueline3351]

Petitioning Markie from Truth or Dare to be a contender for worst friend. I know how much Chelsea and James hate her 😂

[@Nexils]

Oh, I hate her, too. I immediately thought about her as a worst best friend contender.

[@HeavenIsEmpty1031]

We AAALLL know who the BEST horror boyfriend/husband is and that goes to my main man Bret from 2016’s Lights Out. Doesn’t gas light Becca into thinking she’s crazy, helps care for her and Martin while being pushed away, and of course comes back to hug and comfort Martin during the finale that I won’t spoil here for anyone who still needs to see it.

[@Alyboba]

I totally agree! I was waiting for him to switch up the entire time but it never came!

[@oliviapierce6735]

agreed. i remember being really surprised by him when the movie came out!

[@lilbitt52097]

Yes! We love Bret 👏👏👏

[@ryanbeatbox8274]

ty for the non spoiler, decided to watch the movie based on your comment as i'd been planning on doing so for a couple years, was worth the watch. Cheers to you

[@HeavenIsEmpty1031]

@@ryanbeatbox8274 😄😄I’m glad to hear you enjoyed it!! I’ll be rewatching it with my sister tonight!

[@sherylsmallwood-valdivia5375]

Regarding OG Black Christmas - Jess admitted that she originally wasn't going to tell Peter she was pregnant and getting an abortion. That line always stuck out to me. When a womans gut is to not tell her significant other about this kind of situation, there's a reason why deep down. I firmly believe Peter's true colors would have always come out but they REALLY came out in the event of the movie.

[@jonsrecordcollection7172]

I personally would have allowed Peter to last for more brackets, because of how controlling he is of Jess, how he is *this close* to becoming physically abusive of Jess etc. etc. If the director is deliberately making you as the boyfriend look almost indistinguishable from the murderer, you are definitely a bad boyfriend. It is a common horror trope to have a non-monstrous character somehow symbolically paired with the monster & in the OG Black Christmas, it's obvious they are doing this with Peter & Billy.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

@@jonsrecordcollection7172 Fun fact: The guy who voiced Billy actually dubbed a couple of Peter's lines to make him even more suspicious.

[@emion7600]

Thank you...Thank you...THANK YOU for calling Christian's scene what it was! I have been saying this ever since I watched the movie. A "love potion" was used on him, and he was not in a sober state of mind and I am so glad that you guys called it what it was! Thank you, James and Chelsea!

[@chrisytfc879]

He's still the worst before that though!

[@emion7600]

@@chrisytfc879 That is...literally irrelevant to my specific comment. Bad boyfriend? Yes. Deserved his fate? NO!

[@notyouraveragebear9326]

If his fate was determined solely on him cheating on her than I could agree but that douche’s fate was determined based off the countless examples of bad boyfriend and bad person in general that he displayed since the beginning of the movie.

[@airhead7460]

​@@notyouraveragebear9326 Ok no. Just because he was a terrible person and an awful boyfriend doesn't mean he deserved to be r@ped and murdered in one of the most painful ways imaginable. I'd argue that nobody deserves that fate. Also he didn't cheat on her, what the fuck?? He was drugged and forced into it. Can't believe I have to say this.

[@airhead7460]

@@notyouraveragebear9326 Believe it or not, but nobody deserves to be drugged, r@ped, and boiled/burned alive. It's literally one of the cruellest fates imaginable. Is Christian a bad guy? Yeah. Does that mean he deserve what he got? No, absolutely not. I can't believe I have to say this.

[@aggrothehorse9168]

Grissel is so perfect for the podcast. he represents all the non-horror fans and their opinions. I appreciate that man so much.

[@cbb3480]

Graessle :)

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

Did anyone else automatically think of Juno from The Descent when they were talking about Worst Bestie?

[@coolnerdlll6053]

That's a great pick. Juno is the absolute worst (not the Ellen Page movie, which is the absolute best).

[@82Jaster]

My first thought was Markie in Truth or Dare. I remember both James and Chelsea hating her when they discussed the movie.

[@Jadeelmao]

YES LMFAO

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

@@82Jaster Oh that’s a good choice, too.

[@crowforged]

that and everyone in bodies bodies bodies

[@pacifisht9797]

My vote for worst horror husband is definitely Francis. Him refusing to translate further isolates her and also distorts her reality. He supposedly is choosing to withhold information about the serial killer from her to "protect her". But she's also a grown ass woman who doesn't need to be babied. He also starts to get a little victim blame-y when he says that she may be the one bothering the man and not the other way around. That guy suuucks

[@wesleylara5136]

Let us not forget that Francis wants to have his cake and eat it too by moving to Romania for the purposes of furthering his career and bringing his wife along with him. But Julia was an aspiring actress in her own right and now she's been moved to another country where she can't speak the language, effectively being forced to give up her career solely for Francis's benefit. And on top of that, a murder happens near their building towards the start of the film and Francis can put 2 and 2 together that the crime report on the body fits the MO of the killer. With that knowledge, he still not only refuses to take his wife's concerns seriously, but is also okay with leaving her by herself when there's a confirmed murder in the nearby vicinity. Yeah, James and Chelsea kinda cooked with including him here because I genuinely could not remember how horrible he was. Props to Karl Glusman too for the performance.

[@sarahjk1]

People seem to forget the beginning of Midsommar where she's talking to Christian on the phone expressing fears that her sister was going to do something harmful, and he does the whole "you're imagining this in your head again, you always do this, just forget about it" and you can tell he invalidates her feelings often. So she doubts herself/does as he tells her and then her whole family is dead. THAT was the moment right off the bat when I hated the character more than anything. His subtle creepy manipulation that resulted in tragedy. I will probably never watch that scene again. That scene traumatized me and no one even remembers it.

[@biacherrylikeme]

ugh both of their subtle acting is so amazing and those scenes really hit you because of how accurate and real it feels

[@savvyseaworth123]

It definitely gets overlooked compared to the rest of the movie. It is truly horrifying.

[@kiedragerl8119]

As someone with bipolar (what her sister had) that scene really hit me hard. Immediately hated the guy.

[@abov8030]

Oh I remember it, he pissed me off

[@brettthebest3978]

I mean would you immediately think that your partner having problems with their sibling will end up with them killing their entire family? I took it as the sister has cause alot of problems in the past so to him it’s another of those days obviously I’m not defending him at all but how the hell can you predict that tragedy to happen

[@kateg22]

MOLLY'S LITTLE SWEATSHIRT!

[@theysaykillerwhales]

It's so Spring Time Vibes

[@kateg22]

the peeps be peeping@@theysaykillerwhales

[@aud2d2]

she served honestly

[@claratalbot7613]

It's so cute and perfect for springtime

[@mandyb2245]

I love it!

[@coolnerdlll6053]

I'm glad everyone's immediate thought in terms of this subject was Micah. He has to be the slimiest, dumbest, meanest and most obnoxious character I've ever seen a horror movie have. I so wish they had gone with the ending where Katie beats him to death with the camera. That works on way too many levels.

[@ryanjanis9184]

Agreed. As soon as I heard they were doing this, my first thought was "it's Micah, no question". He's such a giant piece of shit throughout that entire movie, I'll never forget my feelings towards Micah when I first watched that movie. Hell by the end I was rooting for the demon just to get rid of him.

[@HopelessLSG]

Just started the video and my first thought was, "that douche from paranormal activity"

[@micahrowe]

That hurts

[@marybellefleur]

I immediately thought of Micah when the subject was first broached.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

​@@micahrowe Sorry. I'm sure (or at least I hope) that you're a much better Micah.

[@savvyseaworth123]

I cannot tell y'all how many times per week someone in my household randomly shouts "YOUR TITS ARE STUPENDOUS!" Trent is awful but he brought so much joy into my life.

[@Lilbunnifoofoo]

Side note: I think it would be fun to have a matchmaker type game where people from different franchises that would be good partners are matched up. Like, how would either movie change is x was this person's partner instead of y. Limited to movies/franchises where the partner ISN"T the killer (cause duh).

[@-callmecrazy-5859]

I stand by it everytime. The movie Orphan would never have happened if that husband had just gone to the bathroom before they left for the orphanage

[@Cowboy_Anonymous]

“The Amish are affected.” Chelsea is so funny damn

[@Minigolfwindmill]

I can't believe i was going to say Billy loomis should have been on this bracket because of how he talked about Sydney's mom and just forgot he was the first ever ghostface lmao

[@lynettebr]

He didn't fit the criteria. They didnt wanna include partners who openly tried to murder their girlfriends

[@Minigolfwindmill]

​@lynettebr I know what I meant is that I was considering him because I genuinely forgot he was the killer I know he wouldn't qualify

[@charapresscott7750]

​@@MinigolfwindmillIs that the power of Matthew Lillard?

[@marshmallsy]

I think you guys were totally correct in your assessment of Christian from Midsommar! I do think that the general debate between the "good for her" vs "she's literally a victim of cult indoctrination" interpretations of Dani's ending also colors people's perception of Christian, in that he's definitely a bad boyfriend and a spineless sort of guy but he's not a necessarily bad person nor did he deserve his fate. Compared to a lot of the other bad partners that ended up in the final brackets, he's much more of a bad boyfriend in the realistic sense of being emotionally checked out and relatively negligent rather than overtly malicious or harmful to Dani. Plus, unlike a lot of the guys in the running who were mostly kept out of the action until the end, Christian was also pretty quickly swept up in the cult's machinations in order to further push him apart and isolate Dani.

[@Jadeelmao]

I think in a lot of ways his FRIENDS were worse than him loool

[@scottlovesmoviestoomuch]

Respectfully, I cannot disagree more. And personally I think what makes someone like Christian so particular insidious is not how in how seemingly harmless he is, but in how much he *manipulates* people to SEE him as harmless. If you closely watch every interaction he has the entire movie, he does not once do anything that is genuinely kind or sincerely altruistic. Every conversation he has is emotional grifting. Even resisting dumping Dani after her family dies comes across less as him feeling any kind of sympathy for her (seriously, look at his expression as she cries on his lap, and it just screams “Great, look at what *I* have to deal with now), and more that he understands people will automatically think of him as the bad guy, which he constantly (I might even say pathologically) refuses to let anyone paint him as the entire film. That’s why he’s conflict-averse: not because he cares about the other person’s feelings or anything, but he understands that the risk in conflict is the potential to be perceived by others as wrong. So as a result, he constantly weasels his way out of people being able to call him out for the self-centered jerk that he is. If you look up a “dark empath,” I feel like he has many of the signifiers. And what makes them so dangerous is that, unlike a normal narcissist, they have the emotional sophistry to really fly under the radar, like Christian does.

[@weirdguy1495]

@scottlovesmoviestoomuch Him being a piece of shit is not the issue here. It's how he died in such a terrible way that makes people be more sympathetic to him than they otherwise would be:

[@blueismylove3128]

​​@@weirdguy1495 Him being a pos is literally the issue, what 😂? That is what the op comment is partially about and the podcast is wholely about.

[@blueismylove3128]

​​@@scottlovesmoviestoomuch100%. I'll never understand people thinking Christian isn't a bad person, but they saw him do what he did, stealing his friends thesis being one thing that comes to mind. He's selfish, inconsiderate and manipulative and people forget that just because he "didn't deserve" his ending. No one deserves to be graped, but I wasn't sad to see him die either. Not to mention the cult set it up to make it seem like C was cheating. How could Dani have known any better, especially because of how it treated her before hand? He's death wasn't even the most gruesome in the movie. His friends deserved to die even less, one (if I remember right) died more horribly than he but no one here feels sorry for them. Also, I'm not even sure anyone truly thinks Dani had a good ending. Sure, someone out there probably genuinely thinks that, but mostly I feel that is mostly a meme, and/or people trying to make Dani seem worse than Christian. I saw one person say she was awful because "she forced herself on the trip", forgetting that C literally invited her. If you don't want someone to come with you, don't invite them, even if you think they'll say no, there's always a chance they'll say yes. I could be completely off base but I think the May Queen also dies, but that's just a thing I saw somewhere, so I'm not sure.

[@basementdwellercosplay]

Dan with Meg: do better my guy Dan with Herbert: the best malewife you could find for Herbert

[@clairehiggins7132]

The way Molly jumps to help James pick her up before he even has his hands all the way around her is so so cute 😭 54:10

[@brenumbra]

I'm so happy to learn there are people who HATE Micah as much as I do, I was just ranting about him the other day so this video came at the perfect time. Thanks guys!

[@LadySamwise]

You could argue that Tyler from The Menu could have been a contender for this because his original date for the dinner was his girlfriend; they just broke up before then.

[@dramamole]

Wait a minute, in Fall the best friend is also having an affair with the husband and the main character finds out because the best friend has something with a phrase the husband used a lot?! Why didn't they just call the movie The Ascent and just say it's a remake of The Descent, cause that's what it is.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

I liked Fall, but I spent half the movie thinking "This is just The Descent but in the other direction and not as good".

[@princeapoopoo5787]

the Ascent LMAO

[@JC_Cali]

That's hilariously astute and witty, kudos

[@ianrouillard3581]

Not so fun fact, Nicholas Tucci, the guy who plays the brother in You're Next sadly passed away from cancer in 2020 :(

[@cbb3480]

He’s the one that got killed with the blender too, not Crispin

[@joshuawilliams3886]

But we can all agree that the worst girlfriend in horror is FUCKING BRIDGET from Leprechaun 2.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

Or Marki from Truth or Dare.

[@EricJAllain]

The wife from antichrist

[@theclairewhy]

Mom from Brightburn is another good candidate

[@thepancakereviewer]

​@coolnerdlll6053 I would say Markie Is more of a shitty friend until I realized one of the plot points of that movie is her being a serial cheater.

[@SnuggieMaple]

@@thepancakereviewer She’s just a shit person 😂

[@theclairewhy]

For ones that haven't been mentioned yet, on Twitter I suggested the dad from The Omen who replaced his wife's dead baby without her knowing. And when his wife said she felt like her son was an imposter, he just let her think she was crazy! I also had Glen from Nightmare on Elm St because of how he KEPT FALLING ASLEEP, even when Nancy begged him to watch over her and she nearly died. Chip from Jennifer's Body also didn't believe that anything was wrong with Jennifer and quickly found out. I wanted to include Carter from Final Destination but he's more of a shitty guy than a shitty boyfriend.

[@carleeelizabeth]

i also suggested chip!

[@preservedfroth5159]

I feel like a good follow-up to “Terrible Horror Husbands” is “Terrible Horror Cops”, with both being such an archetype

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Lot of correlation there too, if the data is to be believed…

[@coolnerdlll6053]

- Charlene (Freaky) - Hendricks (Jaws) - Any cops besides Dewey (Scream) - The cops (Gremlins) - The cops who arrest Helen (I Know What You Did Last Summer) - Nash (Black Christmas) - Beadle Bamford (Sweeney Todd) - Deputy So-And-So (Sinister) - Boyle and Pembry (Silence of the Lambs) - Schreck & Weine (Final Destination) Just to get things started.

[@kizfordy9813]

@@coolnerdlll6053 gotta have some from the Saw franchise too

[@CS-ux7mz]

My first thought was Mark Hoffman but he gets disqualified for sure 😂😂😂

[@horrorhistory7342]

Also terrible psychologists (cough Loomis)

[@ganilems]

Glad that Francis from Watcher is qualified for this, cause the fact that we didn't get to see Maika Monroe's character at least slap the f out of him at the end (which is still an effective ending) after she went through all that got me boilingg

[@ADarkHart]

I'm STILL angry about that, myself!

[@dreamcatcher9689]

That moment when you get to an age where the horror husbands are scarier than all the paranormal /psycho killer stuff 😂

[@brookesargent8249]

THAT PART

[@hailsaep13]

Because if we're being honest, the chance of something horror-esque (especially supernatural) is like pretty low. And even if it does happen, it most likely would not be a long experience (either you die or it does). But being stuck with an abusive, manipulative creep for a partner is unfortunately very possible. Not to mention, it could last for years or if they're a real expert pos, they'd wait till you're stuck and comfortable with them. Then getting out is harder because you can't exactly just off em.

[@sarahd.5244]

Erin was also Crispian's TA. Allegedly before they started dating but still, him going for a younger woman who used to work for him, potentially when she was still working for him, feels like an extra layer of creepy to me.

[@SketchyCharactersAndCrime]

I nominate Jennifer Check as “worst best friend” for trying to eat her best friend’s boyfriend.

[@destructiondragon360]

On the one hand I thought that would fall under the "DQ'd after they start killing people" but then Jennifer has completely normal, non-supernatural shitty friend behaviors that could keep her in the bracket.

[@thepancakereviewer]

I'd think Jennifer would be disqualified due to her being the main killer in her movie

[@SketchyCharactersAndCrime]

@@thepancakereviewer She’s the main antagonist but she’s not the main character, Needy is.

[@JackieBorelli]

she did that cause she wanted Needy for herself, which is why Needy ripping off her BFF necklace weakened her enough to kill her

[@thepancakereviewer]

@@SketchyCharactersAndCrime I said Main Killer, not Main Character

[@colinbunn6066]

1:27:03 Perhaps one of the greatest lines ever said on this podcast

[@smam5548]

that kiiiiilled me 😂

[@madam-mint]

“THE AMISH ARE AFFECTED! IT MAKES ITS WAY TO AMISH COUNTRY, THAT’S HOW BADLY MICAH F***S UP!”

[@aly4920]

Great idea for a horror list. Having a bad, untrustworthy partner is such a horror trope, I'm surprised I never came across a list like this before. Can't wait for the wives/girlfriends list. Thank you both and the team for pulling this together!

[@nodesire9291]

All I can focus on is Molly and her ADORABLE hoodie.

[@johnclayton44]

I feel having Crispin on the list is breaking the initial rule stipulation that straight up villains are not considered. The dude hires assassins to kill his whole family. Kind of hard to beat

[@ginachuu]

they never stay consistent with rules lol

[@ieatsocks69]

wasnt the rule that they couldn't try to murder their girlfriends/wives? he specifically wanted to spare erin in that movie

[@maryncole4661]

Yeah, I feel like if Guy from Rosemary's Baby is out, then Crispin should have been, too. Both men put their women in traumatically violent situations to benefit themselves financially.

[@rebeccanelson7713]

Came here to say that! He was a spoiler from the beginning.

[@CS-ux7mz]

I sorta agree, he's riiiight on the line even if he claims he planned for her to survive. But it was still fun to listen to xD

[@krhodes866]

I’m guessing the reason the husband from Malignant wasn’t out here is because he did get physically abusive with his wife but I have to make mention due to the fact that that movie doesn’t happen without him, in a similar sense to Micah his terrible actions lead to further awful events

[@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013]

Well, yes, but completely unforeseeable ones, where in Micah's case it was pretty obvious that, by antagonizing a demon, he would probably end up unleashing an antagonized demon on the world.

[@lizardqueen7283]

Don't know who the worst horror husband is, but certainly the best is James!!

[@emmag6469]

The caption for this episode being “all of horror’s most disappointing men” is truly sending me. Idk who captions the podcasts but they always bring me so much joy

[@brendant8294]

Please do the Worst Best Friends! 100% sure that Jennifer from Jennifer's Body should be on that list!

[@frogpuffin]

I'm really anticipating the worst Girlfriends/Wives in horror just to hear James rip into FOCKIN BRIDGET

[@taylork7530]

Jeff from Saw 3, Bobby from Saw 7, Ethan Hawke in Sinister, Keanu in Devil’s Advocate, the guy from the Lodge, but none of them have anything on Rosemary’s Baby. Edit after starting the video: RB is disqualified then. Fine, add in the husband from Orphan, and, if boyfriends count, the boyfriend from Zombeavers.

[@devynvictoria3289]

Bobby from Saw 7 DEFINITELY should have been in there, that guy is literally awful.

[@6022]

Jeff wandered into the bracket five minutes after the podcast finished and wondered where everybody went.

[@rohanb9335]

The worst one for me will the guy from Orphan. Dude chose an adoptive daughter other his wife even after HIS SON NEARLY DIES IN AN UNEXPLAINED TREE HOUSE FIRE ☠️

[@theclairewhy]

Right? At that point you can't blame alcoholism 💀 and then his son randomly loses his pulse at the hospital right after Esther leaves!!

[@CowabungaWo101]

I’m gonna make an argument here as someone watching through the Paranormal Activity series for the first time; Micah isn’t responsible for what happens in the rest of the series… the shitty husband from the SECOND movie is. That dude is just as bad as Micah but he PAWNS THE DEMON ONTO HIS SISTER IN LAW KNOWING ITS PROBABLY GOING TO KILL THEM

[@aaronlark294]

I think Micah got unfairly slammed in this for one, single reason: Christi and katie’s grandma was already knee-deep in this demon shit and everything in that franchise was going to happen whether or not Micah wanted to film it. He did not create the paranormal franchise, it was going to happen to these families with or without him filming the first movie.

[@sydneydunham9619]

What about Alex from Ready or Not, though? I feel like he and Crispain could go head to head

[@amilreed4009]

Yes Alex was awful lol

[@theclairewhy]

unfortunately he doesn't qualify since he tried to kill her

[@carleeelizabeth]

alex suuuuuuuuuuucks

[@SketchyCharactersAndCrime]

Alex is disqualified because he tries to murder his wife.

[@biacherrylikeme]

he really sucks and i wouldve liked to see that conversation but i think he's disqualified because of him deciding to participate in the ritual and being the one to stabby stab her (even if she moves)

[@shantellakaladypersephone8671]

Oh how I LOVE watching you 2 lovebirds talk Horror while looking so happy with being in each other's company. Been a loyal subbie for years and Im always getting new Horror Tea and laughs too. Thank you James and Chelsea!

[@jacksmith7502]

I fully fully agree with this comment!!

[@Lavonda_]

The whole Paranormal chaos is because of the husband from part 2 bc it’s chronically first. He sent the active curse to Katie to save his wife 🙄, after being racist to the nanny!

[@shivareewaltz]

I was thinking the same thing. Daniel set it all off when he transfers the demon to Katie.

[@vickimorelos8897]

Yes! I think he is so much worse than Micah! He’s racist, dismissive of his wife, actively mocks and scares her with the pool vacuum, and then redirects the demon to her sister who she loves so much

[@Lavonda_]

@@vickimorelos8897 that part!

[@louise9158]

Would love to see Jennifer Check from Jennifer's Body discussed in the worst best friend tier. Another one could be the sorority sister from Black Christmas that betrays her friends.

[@rykerm4249]

Best horror boyfriend is definitely the one from Lights Out lol. He was supportive the whole time

[@neutralman9124]

Annabelle, too, if I recall.

[@Minigolfwindmill]

I don't know if it counts his partner is dead for the whole movie but Nicolas Cage from mandy is definitely up there

[@CutiePatootiest]

I think another solid one is the husband in us. He never underplayed his wife or kids' fears, actively tried to protect them, and tried to ensure the crawdaddy as a means of escape for all of them and put faith in his wife's ability to protect them when he realized he was in over his head

[@AliceBella72]

Also the dad in Hereditary! Only wants the best for them and does everything he can to help until the very end.

[@LokiMartin-i6s]

​@CutiePatootiest the dad in Us is such a sweetheart! He's a big ol' teddy bear who clearly loves his wife and kids. He's such a goofball, you can clearly see why he and his wife fell in love. And he and Lupita have such good chemistry, so that gets extra points! ❤

[@jackroberts4361]

Dennis from Paranormal Activity 3 could be best horror husband. Also Molly's hoodie is adorable.

[@artandcard]

"I'm gonna adhere to you." James, I laughed. Chelsea made this rollercoaster of a game, and James is enjoying the ride.

[@JC_Cali]

Y'all did this SO WELL. I've seen half of these and know about a third more cuz of KZbin, but you're careful evaluation of the conduct of these men in context of the film and their impacts had me convinced the entire way. Really the authority on these matters y'all are!

[@TCCrewForever]

In my opinion, Jack from Don't Worry Darling is the worst Horror Movie Husband/Boyfriend. He essentially kidnaps his wife by knocking her out and then making her a prisoner in her own mind by drugging her and keeping her strapped to a bed for god knows how long in a 1950's simulation because he wanted a housewife that catered to his every whim because "its my world" and when she figures it out, he tries to gaslight her saying "i did this for you, you get to stay in this perfect place but i need to work". He stole her life.

[@alysemonroy7426]

This is who I immediately thought of when I read the title of the episode. I agree, hands down the worst!

[@GGAlchemist]

Not defending Ethan Hawke's character but there is that scene when he burns the film and tells his wife, "We have to go right now" that is at least slightly redeemable. He basically throws away that case to protect him family. It's far too late but it is noteworthy. I do think they made the right decision in that Ethan was worse but it's not super cut and dry.

[@ssgsorrels]

The Fall is an unintentional comedy. I could not sympathize less than someone stupid enough to climb an old radio tower with no parachute or rope or anything. A couple of Darwin award winners

[@VickyScreams]

I finally watched Watcher last night after having it on my list for ages. What good timing! Glad I did. Such an unsettling film.

[@XnerzTheNerd]

We all know the worst horror husband is james, counting deaths for fun? Such blasphemy

[@erichfiedler1481]

No, James is the best Horror Husband, he let's his wife count kills for fun too

[@kingfrog5788]

Is this a joke? Please be a joke.

[@shantellakaladypersephone8671]

😂😂😂😂😂 I see what you did there....

[@shantellakaladypersephone8671]

​@@kingfrog5788I definitely think they're joking...its sarcastic wit imo

[@kingfrog5788]

@@shantellakaladypersephone8671 oh my bad

[@bee-om2ry]

Ohhhh I hope we keep doing this but with wives/parents/kids etc. Mostly because I kept waiting for The Lodge and realized EVERYONE in that movie was one inch away from insanity lol

[@bee-om2ry]

ALSO could do worst dates? And that way you could include Fresh and The Menu!!!

[@iguanaboi3921]

Should've called it "In the March of Madness,"

[@no-ed2uz]

A little late to this, but I have 2 which might qualify: 1. Jonathan Terry (Colonel Glover) in Return of the Living Dead - when his wife has the candles lit and the fine China laid out and he's just like, "I had turkey for lunch...". So much disdain... and you can see the pain in the wife's face 😂 2. Adrian Brody (Clive) in Splice... 😬

[@Leakampff]

We are being feddddd 💖 I'm totally counting this as a research episode hehe, thanks for all the work Chelsea!!! Also Molly's little COATTT 🥹🥹🥹

[@tacnogion]

I would have included husband from "The Invisible man (2020)". He does not outright murder his wife. I understand it is similar to the jack torrence. But I think he would have cleaned house, just due to the gaslighting torture he puts her through. It's not even about murder, it's about control and torment. He wants her to be alive and puts her through hell.

[@nateds7326]

Best horror boyfreind by far is the guy from Last Night in Soho. He is loyal to a concerning degree. "Oh you were literally inches from stabbing a girl through the eye with a pair of scissors? Probably not your fault".

[@Billwarson29]

"He a little confused but he got the right spirit."

[@nateds7326]

@@Billwarson29 that's exactly it. Because, it WASNT her fault. But there is absolutely no evidence of that from his perspective.

[@regularspecial1]

THIS IS PERFECTION. this is like a love letter to hardcore podcast fans thank you so much. if you been here since the paranormal pool party, you a real one

[@y2kaylaog]

i’m 30 minutes in and just noticed molly on chelsea’s lap with the peep hoodie

[@KitsuneRokaku]

Mom and Dad work while Molly sleeps. Too cute 🥰

[@havakelly6244]

The bar for husbands is so low ”did they cheat?”

[@moonbeamsun9066]

Okay, I don’t have a worst boyfriend but the best boyfriends are Chad and Danny from Scream 6. Danny is encouraging to Sam to be less afraid, but also understands she’s dealing with trauma and is patient. He gives her space and respects her wishes for him not to wind up in harm’s way, but still finds ways to help (such as notifying paramedics or the ladder scene). And Chad 100% lives up to his name, literally sacrificing himself and nearly dying to save Tara and his friends and also being patient with Tara and just an awesome guy… and this was before him and Tara stated dating.

[@kyle601]

Prediction: Micah makes the final 4 no doubt.

[@morganwigley9776]

I think Mark from Till Death could be a good contender. He's like a mix between Crispian from You're Next and Gerald from Gerald's Game in how he tries to kill Emma by sending an ex-criminal to their cabin and then dies within the first act of the film.

[@Lilbunnifoofoo]

I truly like the last 4 in the matchups. I do agree with Crispin taking it though because not only did he not consider Erin's wellbeing during the event or how she would recover after it, he didn't give a shit about any of his family. When he sees the carnage at the end, and finds out she killed his brother, he tells her that means they have more money and that they can just go on and live their lives together. He doesn't seem to realize that the woman he was dating just saw how little of a shit he gave about his 1) entire family and 2) his partners in crime being dead. He legit thought that he could Gaslight, Gatekeep, and Girlboss his way out of this situation. Erin is smart enough to know that if she had said, "Okay let's run away together" she would be just as disposable as his family. She is the only witness that he was behind the plot and that means that she would be a liability.

[@PhoenyxV]

I had to pause this episode like 25 minutes in to go watch the entire Fall movie because that sort of edge of your seat "everything that can go wrong, will" drama is my jam. Great movie, thanks for bringing it to my notice! Now to watch the rest of the episode in the morning.

[@aquauniverse4403]

The awestruck reaction on my face when James said Black Christmas was 50 years ago. Jeez I can’t believe it’s that old

[@Supreme_Valentine]

The one horror husband I think that gets too much flack is Don from 28 weeks later. He literally said "don't let that kid come in, they will follow him and find us." Then, not only do they let the young boy in, but they also turn the oven back on to cook him some food. Which creates a smell, which attracted the infected. Then, when the infected do start breaking into the house, the little boy runs and hides in the house, forcing Don's wife to look for him against Don's wishes and plea's to leave so they could escape and focus on saving their own kids. Then, his wife finds the boy deep in the house hiding. Then, after all of that, Don in the doorway with a horde of infected entering the room and his wife says "Don, help us!" Like, WTF is he supposed to do?! He literally was trying to help you by getting you to start running away much faster! And to top it off, Jacob, the only other guy who decided to run away right off the rip, gets caught trying to detach the boat because Don had so many infected chasing him. If his wife listened to him, Jacob, Don's wife, and Don would have all escaped. I 100% believed Don was in the right in the opening of 28 weeks later.

[@Poirotgirl]

Thank you!! Don is a weasel but I also think he did so much to try and stop it and protect her and she kept messing up. He survived while he could.

[@Supreme_Valentine]

@@Poirotgirl Don made his stance clear and she was the one who didn't listen after many warnings and after several of those warnings came true. Don was a moron later in the film, but in the opening scene, he was 100% in the right and it wasn't his fault.

[@Alatuber]

As you say, he was right IN THE OPENING, but he is a complete idiot for what he does later.

[@revenge3265]

​@@AlatuberI mean, that's what they literally said, twice. Don't know why you felt the need to repeat it lol.

[@Alatuber]

@@revenge3265 for some reason, KZbin didn't show me the replies to this comment 🤔

[@boyxgamer]

"How long is this gonna take" "Hopefully not 2 hours again" Well...

[@ianrey7899]

Idk who Micah is from, but the one who instantly got into my head is Jeff from Saw. Worst person ever.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

Micah is from the first Paranormal Activity movie.

[@alm5266]

Slow-ass Jeff!

[@rdp16rulez]

Thank you! I'm so surprised that Slow Ass MF'ing Jeff isn't on the bracket

[@Mormollio]

Another layer on the Crispin thing, I don't think he intended for her to die but he didn't even bother to stay to like make sure it didn't happen. He just noped out. Dude can't even kill his own family himself or stay to make sure the witness/his girlfriend survives. Then you see in the movie, by fighting back she pissed off so many of the killers they wouldn't have allowed her to live.

[@LuxuryPossum]

Save the best Stoner characters bracket for the week of 4/20!

[@82Jaster]

Chewie and Lawrence from the Friday reboot need to be in as a duo for that. Best characters in that movie.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

Marty from Cabin in the Woods, Anton from Idle Hands and of course Leprechaun/Lil Sh*t would be contenders.

[@LuxuryPossum]

@@coolnerdlll6053 I'm here for Anton. I love Idle Hands!

[@lovestumacher]

@@coolnerdlll6053 Marty is my favorite stoner! I really wanted him to survive in the end 😭

[@coolnerdlll6053]

@@lovestumacher Unfortunately, in that movie's lore, if he didn't get murdered the world would end, so he was kind of screwed.

[@cazia9]

I feel like a case could be made for Seymour Krelbourn from Little shop of horrors - he wants Audrey for himself so he offs her boyfriend to feed to his bloodthirsty pet plant and then ends up putting her in harms way himself

[@jacksmith7502]

Well no actually audrey's boyfriend was a jerk. That boyfriend was rude and abusive to her. The dentist. He could definitely be on the list.The dentist played by steve martin...but not Seymour

[@sunnytheo]

I still stand by my belief that in Paranormal Activity the only demon in the house is Micah

[@MissAlmostFine]

🤣🤣🤣

[@cierraroach9782]

Just started listening, lol and i cant help but laugh at 143. I learned that from Mr. Rogers Neighborhood when i was a kid! It has been something i have been saying since childhood to my Mom for I Love You. Funny that it showed up in a horror movie!

[@BedlamBeersie]

Katharine Isabelle was in her early 20s playing a high schooler when Freddy Vs. Jason was being filmed, so they used the same de-aging technology as the makers of the Saw movies used on Tobin Bell.

[@LordMogatron]

Tyler from The Menu doesn't count, but what about the old guy who hired Margot because she looks like his daughter?

[@cousinmajin]

To clarify, not only does she LOOK like his daughter, he hired her to ROLEPLAY as his daughter during sex acts. Also, his daughter is dead

[@dreamghoul_1992]

Look at Molly's Sweater. I love this category/game so much. This is a topic I enjoy very much! Nice to see the inclusion of Elison and Trent.

[@MeredithHagan]

Thank you for acknowledging that Christian in Midsommer is a victim of SA. Like yeah he was a shitty bf, but too many people call it “cheating,” which is definitely isn’t because he wasn’t in a position to soberly consent. Hyped for the new channel!

[@TheeFinalBoi]

Crispin takes it for me, especially when you consider the parallel of his relationship to Erin in their academic setting. Joe Swanberg made a snide comment at the dinner table of it being unprofessional to date your student, which I agree with! There's a power dynamic and a disregard of how that dynamic would affect Erin, just like his total disregard of putting her in danger and witnessing a massacre would affect her, under the assumption that he planned for her to live in the end which i doubt. either way, Erin was being exploited.

[@miajean1514]

I always figured the neighbors in You’re Next were killed to remove an avenue for the Davisons to go for help

[@TheAntmanTDK]

Love the podcast as always, I'd love to see Spencer back on here when he not busy on tours. Can we make that happen?

[@lancerjayden4997]

i also think if we're gonna disqualify husbands like jack Torrance because trying to kill your wife with an axe is too much, than honestly crispin should of been disqualifed too? like yeah he doesn't try to murder anyone directly, but hiring assassins seems kind of the same thing? like it's the same energy as the husband from ready or not right?

[@miajean1514]

Some thoughts for worst horror girlfriends- the podcast mentioned Rose Armitage (Get Out), and I'm seeing a lot of mentions of Bridget (Leprechaun 2). I think I'd add Cleopatra (Freaks)- Marries a man for money then cheats behind his back and is super ableist towards him; Annabelle Loren (House on Haunted Hill 1959)- elaborate plot to get her husband killed and run away with her lover; Mrs. Lovett (Sweeney Todd)- I don't think she killed anyone, but she condoned murder and tricked who knows how many people into cannibalism, and lied to Sweeney about his wife's condition; Wilma (Creepshow- The Crate)- verbally abusive.

[@kory_misun]

I read the title of this podcast and immediately thought of Billy Nolan, but he's the boyfriend of antagonist Chris, not our protagonist Carrie. I then thought of Alex from Ready or Not, and of course, Christian from Midsommar.

[@ryanbalmer510]

The Friday the 13th Ranking video was one of the first videos ever released on Dead Meat. You did it right after all the Kill Counts were released 😊