Hellraiser IV: Bloodline - The Cinema Snob

[@snukastyle]

Ah, Angelique, one of the forgotten Disney Princesses.

[@SenoraCardgage]

LOL!

[@Dim4323]

She dosnt count

[@JoyfulOrb]

Brad makes the IDEA of the film so compelling I want to read the original script to see what they were actually trying to do!

[@WarhavenSC]

Seems like the Alien 3 of Hellraisers. Original script may have been dope AF, but then execs happened.

[@Kurtsg10]

Yes, it's clear that there was a good movie in there before the studio hacked it to shreds.

[@EntertainmentFan11]

The orginal version can be viewed here on KZbin.

[@Briantos69]

@@EntertainmentFan11 link?

[@theasinclaire52]

It's sad that the studio ruined the movie and punished the film for not doing as well. Ugh.

[@funkyweapon1981]

I did like how Pinhead just accepted his destruction by saying "Amen", which means "Let it be so". He's like "Well, this is how it ends for me." Too bad it didn't, as Pinhead's personal Hell is to be cast in movies worse than this one.

[@scitechian]

Eh, I'd say the 5th one is better than 3 and 4. Did something different, at least.

[@romarqable]

6 was arguably better than this as well, at least it had Ashley Laurence back as Kirsty.

[@EntertainmentFan11]

This was the last chronological film in the franchise.

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Graceful loser.

[@mazzame6480]

This is my favourite hellraiser film. I would have loved to seen the clowns but they cut all of that out

[@WTF_WHAT_THE_FLICK]

You dubbing pinheads voice gets me every time. This is my favorite of the horror franchise in space movies.

[@emmasherrard0222]

I know right. It always makes me think iago, the parrot from Aladdin is Pin Head’s body lol!

[@grapeshot]

Talk about a franchise that came off the tracks like a train derailing into a fuel tank farm.

[@huntery3568]

Yeah, but there's so much opportunity to debate whether that happened here, or in part 3 with the Disc Jockey of Doom and Camera Guy.

[@phreakazoith2237]

no matter how many dead ends the franchises hit one still has to give credits for neither Freddy nor Michael Myers going to space as well

[@grapeshot]

@@phreakazoith2237 not yet. But give them time.

[@KarlaHolland]

Angelique: "What happened to Hell?" Pinhead: "It's under new management"

[@zachwillas6329]

Everytime a Hellraiser review comes up, I think to myself "This is going to be interesting."

[@kaizerlith7070]

Pinhead's silent look around confused after Merchant teleports away is so funny to me. "Uh..Did..Did that just happen?"

[@jasonvoorhees310]

Hopefully this isn't the last Hellraiser review. ✌I need them all

[@ryanmclellan8740]

You are correct Mr. Voorhees

[@greenkoopa]

We should star in a game together, we're both fearless

[@murrfeeling]

Yeah, we don't hit that hard quality drop until five.

[@jasonvoorhees310]

@@murrfeeling only hard-core fans like you and I think that...

[@Japaneseanimeguy]

That's it for the good ones though. As much of a mess as this was pretty much every other after this point was just made for copyright/license reasons and adapted from scripts that were never intended to be Hellraiser sequels. Some interesting ideas at times but rarely does one fit.

[@michaelryall5752]

Okay so it might be an Alan Smithee film, but we still need to ask "Is it better than Leprechaun or Jason in space?"

[@GallantJayVT]

Nothing is better than Jason in space and rhe director is a coward if he Alan smithee'd it.

[@greenkoopa]

The answer is no. It's even worse than Doom (The Rock)

[@MichaelSmith-fq6hz]

Most things are better than Leprechaun In Space. Few things are better than Jason X.

[@lutherheggs451]

Then NOPE its definitely not better than Jason X and Jason X isn't terrible unlike Freddy v Jason, Jason Takes Manhattan and Jason Goes to Hell.

[@VideoDuffelBag]

No, it isn’t. At least Leprechaun 4 and Jason X had something that actually resembles coherency and both are far more entertaining.

[@calibanxpable]

I love the relationship between Pinhead and Angelique. It's kind of cool watching them interact as if they were old friends.

[@kaind.badguy]

I'm so disappointed we haven’t had a Jason vs Leprechaun vs Pinhead in space film.

[@SFG0ldRush]

Hellraiser IV is lowkey one of my guilty pleasure flicks. Have loved it since the very first time I saw it.

[@makaimaukahasopinions848]

Yep - I'm not hating

[@creatureslim]

It's better than 3

[@frownline1]

@@creatureslim and most of the however many Hellraisers that followed it

[@creatureslim]

@@frownline1 yup the ranking is 1,2,4,5,6,3,7 then the rest are pure shit

[@Revan058]

@@creatureslim HOW FUCKING MANY OF THESE THINGS ARE THERE?!

[@MaggieOffutt]

So you’re on the hunt to review all the James Bond movies AND the Hellraiser movies? I salute you for this task! This is going to be a bigger task than reviewing “Inchon!” and that took all of 2019!

[@The_Baecon_King]

Never hit play faster on a Snob video before.. Been waiting on this

[@biggerdoofus]

Ah yes, the long tradition of framing the story as being told by someone who definitely didn't know all the details that the story includes. It goes all the way back to Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.

[@theotakux5959]

Wow, Brad's got a movie on the Troma streaming service? He's hit the big time.

[@ColtComanche]

Both Cinema Snob movies

[@snukastyle]

Isn't Lloyd Kaufman the Snob's father in-canon? I call nepotism!

[@SenoraCardgage]

Is that what it means to be Lloyd approved?

[@Desaki65]

Adam Scott looks like he's questioning every decision he's ever made.

[@beebumm]

As if I knew, I watched your previous 3 videos on the Hellraiser series yesterday. Love your videos!

[@AngelofMusic04]

These are the reviews that make me happy to be a Patron patron. The one shame about this film (well, there's several) is that the film didn't further explore the relationship of Angelique and her father Leviathan.

[@johnporter9073]

Thanks Lloyd...that explosion in Roe vs Wade was quite satisfying.

[@RonnieBarzel]

So is Dimension officially where horror franchises go to die?

[@austindolan7182]

no, not all of em anyway, elm street and friday the 13th died with new line.

[@AngelofMusic04]

@ECKohns But Wes Craven isn't Joe Chappelle, Kevin Yagher or 90s Guillermo Del Toro. If the Weinsteins tried to do to Craven what they did to them, it would have ended poorly.

[@michaelbolcato192]

Yeah, look at what they did with Children of the Corn, Halloween, From Dusk Till Dawn, Mimic, The Prophecy, etc. They didn’t care about horror movies at all.

Where do horror franchises go to be resurrected?

[@destinypifer5772]

Yes thank you! I love it when Brad reviews horror films because it is so entertaining!

[@ObSoLeeT666]

the effects on the that dog was pretty damn good.....no cgi bullshit needed

[@chrisb9345]

The hellraiser films are a thing I love, and also love to see them taken apart.

[@DarkmanPoe]

I have a DVD-R of a workprint cut of "Bloodline" (complete with the Victorian Cenobites that were completely cut from the film). It's a better film, easily. Not perfect, but infinitely better than the theatrical cut. Shame we don't get an official release of it.

[@Ric_Roar]

Anyway you rip it and post it on a website and let us know? *Wink Wink*

[@brianparent4023]

@@Ric_Roar just go to KZbin and search “helllraiser bloodline reconstruction workprint” it’s there in 9 parts

[@Ric_Roar]

@@brianparent4023 K thanks!

[@meatz666]

I love when the Snob spotlights up and coming studios, new platforms, letting them host his movies, he is a very humble guy

[@RevLink]

Despite its many flaws, I still enjoy this movie for the story it tried to tell.

[@mr.pavone9719]

Oh jeezus, I just realized the space station is named after the island of Minos, the place where King Minos built the labyrinth...

[@jakey14344]

Talk about subtlety. Also *insert Lou Ferigno scream Minos here*

[@geoffreysorkin5774]

@@jakey14344 And the movie ends with the space station blowing up after a bear thrown from Earth hits it.

[@mistydolphin2524]

Hellraiser with the disney logo? Ah yes, I can see it now... Starts with the cliche disney intro with the castle and fireworks, then at the last second the castle gets skewered with hooked chains and ripped to bloody pieces! They mix together perfectly!

[@disconnected22]

“The Ninth Configuration”!!!! Please do that movie, Brad. That’d be a tough nut to crack....

[@JenMistress]

So, there is Rimmer, but what about Lister, Cat, and Kryten? And dang, that American remake of Red Dwarf is weird. 😉😂🤣 Couldn't resist.

[@spideyfan1990]

Did you know there really was an attempt to make an American Red Dwarf. You can watch both pilots on KZbin. The second one has the lead from Hellraiser 3 as Cat

[@DokkaChapman]

I managed to get my hands on the original script to Bloodline last year and am currently working on making an unauthorized novel from it. As it stands it would be the closest we'd get to experiencing the proper plot.

[@saidi7975]

Honestly I dig this movie despite the prod hell it went through, though, color me intrigued ! Good luck with the novelization !

[@DokkaChapman]

@@saidi7975 Oh yeah I totally agree, I love it's ideas too, it gets more flack than it should. This novel is certainly gonna take a while as I'll need to do a lot of background research, so I may release it in parts.

[@MaxmadV8]

When you said Rimmer I was hoping for a Red dwarf reference like it cuts to him calling the other guy a "Smeg Head"

[@taym510Oak]

This was one actually one of my favorites of the series

[@virginiadare1587]

And "Hellraiser" was in a simplified version of "Law & Order" font.

[@markabboud8564]

Without the saucy theme music

[@BuildTheSandbox]

but which version. law and order. special cenobite unit

[@LembeckIsStaying]

@@BuildTheSandbox Whichever one where you're not gay....you just have relationships with women and sex with men!

[@mamawray]

@ 11:19. I think that pigeon is the same one from Rutger Hauer's famous "tears in the rain" speech in Blade Runner. And good for that pigeon for getting work.

[@DianaPr1nce]

When the dog shows up, in my head I heard Pinhead scream, "Bumpuses!"

[@ZekeStaright]

Ah, back when Sci Fi wasn't SYFY...

[@YourLordshipBalthazar]

I watched this for free on here not so long ago and it's still up. Guilty pleasure for me tbh.

[@xKynOx]

The workprint is the way to watch this, It's in order and makes sense even though the some special effects are missing.

[@charlottecorday8494]

Is that easy to find?

[@scitechian]

Her name is "Rimmer" and you didn't make the obvious joke? I admire your restraint.

[@troyduren5079]

You mean the Red Dwarf joke? ^____^

[@michaelmyers3709]

No, I don’t think he meant that.

[@janders79]

By far, the greatest of the Hellraisers. Because EVERYTHING is better in the future, in space. Pinhead? Check. Jason? For sure. Alien? Didn't even make sense until the franchise finally went to space!

[@jokerz7936]

This film is bad but makes me realize a Hellraiser/Event Horizon crossover film could be cool.

[@grapeshot]

Not a bad idea, fanfic writers get on this.

[@Laudanon]

Exactly!

[@michaelmyers3709]

Event Horizon borrowed enough from Hellraiser already.

[@jacobmatthewcrawford2120]

This is the only feature film directed by Kevin Yagher. After hearing the production history, I can see why he decided to stick to special effects... Its funny to think that the same year this clusterfuck of a film came out, Yagher's wife Catherine Hicks began starring on the show 7th Heaven.

[@Greydevil82]

i didn't know he married Karen Barclay. Nice

[@jacobmatthewcrawford2120]

@@Greydevil82 Yeah. They met while working on Child's Play (1988).

[@rebornkusabi7264]

"This is why we need a Hellraiser set during the [Covid-19] Pandemic Era". That's barely a joke, if Clive Barker is listening (he isn't)- that's actually a fucking fantastic idea for a film lol

[@EntertainmentFan11]

The original Yagher cut of the film is here on KZbin, for those who wanna see how it was originally supposed to be. Mind you, it's got what look like video game scenes to integrate with the missing scenes in the 18th century part, and the voices don't exactly match the characters, and it will show you a scene from the previous two films (just to prove that this is chronologically last in the story, seeing as the rest of the films don't follow the damn timeline (except part 7, which I think is the only good direct-to-video sequel)), but it's still a good way to see what was cut from the official release. I would definitely watch that version of this film if I was bingeing the first four movies.

[@nicklager1666]

A troubled shot come on now Snob how bad can it be. "An Alan Smithee" production. I see its one of those films.

[@Parasiteve]

yet another guilty pleasure movie of mine. right up there with the 2000 charlies angels movie and ewoks adventure with sindel and wickett lol oh and can't forget hellraiser 3. i fucking love that one. more cenobites and that boiler room massacre

[@jjamiejackson]

I've been waiting for this one for a LONG time now. Please do more Horror and Porn reviews. They are hands down the funniest god damn things ever.

[@ZoeKavanagh]

As a kid this film disturbed me and was the scariest Hellraiser movie so much gore!

[@locnar1]

The What if it exploded clip reminded me of this: "My mother sells condoms to sailors, she pokes out the ends with a pin, father got rich off abortions, god how the money rolls in"

[@DocZFlux]

Alan Smithee directed this? This is gonna be Ghost Fever levels of good!

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

At least it isn't that other film he directed... you know the one I mean.

[@DocZFlux]

@ECKohns Bad CGI Dogs, Why Did it Have to Be Bad CGI Dogs?

[@DocZFlux]

@ECKohns I figured, I just wanted to make that Indy joke since Raiders turns 40 this year.

[@MrPeanut624]

"He's got pins in his head!" What is he, some kind of pinhead?

[@caranostalgico9249]

Who you callin' pinhead?

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

Ah, yes... everyone's favorite Alan Smithee Film! The one with the Puzzle Box in Sapce.

[@ryanmclellan8740]

Ok, because of Snob I'm going to rewatch this movie tonight 😀

[@imlaunch]

I’d watch my copy of it but it’s on VHS but my vcr is dead... nooooo😫

[@memyopinionsche6610]

I always thought this movie was ok. But the first 3 HELLRAISERS are still my favorites.

[@nikolai1326]

I really enjoy the inclusion of the old "coming up next: " between commercial breaks in snob's videos

[@almightycinder]

11:53 I always think it's so funny how people were completely unaware that Disney had been consistently making R rated movies from 1986 to around 2012. Buy Miramax and everyone raises a fuss, but release Ransom the same year and nobody even notices.

Now that Disney owns Fox, they're still pumping out R-rated films

[@TheWarmotor]

Thank god for the Snob. The country is on fire and this and Forgotten Weapons are my only escape before the coming storm. I love you, Brad.

[@reobeem]

Maybe one day Shout Factory can release the original version like they did with Halloween 6. Until then all we got are your quite funny Hellraiser reviews.

[@raulzavala9061]

#release the Yagher cut

[@ShadeMeadows]

Still way better than every Hellraiser movie after this one. Until the 2022 reboot, of course!

[@shinjinaraku4251]

Hooray, more Lloyd exploding things!

[@thomaskphillips2582]

Thankfully you finally done this film!

[@guardianjb804]

I hope Scream Factory seeks out the Director’s Cut.

[@DrSpookula]

Best "What if it exploded?" yet!

[@John_Fx]

I really loved it. The extra lore was fantastic

[@DigiAkuma]

This movie would've been okay if the focus was purely on the origins and if they left out the space part. I want to see Brad do a review for Hellraiser V. It's actually the one sequel after the first two movies I actually like.

[@zmeyagosho]

yeey! "what if it exploded" is back!!!

[@pothatuu]

How come all the Hellraiser posters look like Phil Collins album covers?

[@murrfeeling]

Unpopular opinion: Hellraiser 4 was pretty good, considerably better than part 3 and way better than any that came afterwards. Not as fresh as part 1 or perfect as part 2, but very solid despite the studio tampering and questionable edits. The series is very legend and mythos flavored. There's an antiquity/history/religion type aspect to the cenobites and this movie explored this. They're somewhat Lovecraftian (immortal, inscrutable, extradimensional, connected to something ancient and largely impervious to physical violence). It was a solid choice. It's also felt more logical and serious about bringing the franchise into space.

[@MortalZombie]

Yes! Thank you! My personal 3rd favorite of the franchise. Loved all the Angelique and Pinhead Scenes. Feel like Pinhead was done way better in this entry than in Hell on Earth when it comes to screen time and him being more in your face than a more mysterious force as the cenobites were in the first film. Because of how little they were on screen.

[@cicadathegod8277]

No matter how bad the spin offs get I appreciate there’s always creativity in the cenobites designs

[@cBe9999]

Every time Brad says 'Rimmer' I kept hoping Chris Barrie would appear on screen - man, Red Dwarf in a Hellraiser film (or vice versa) would be great.

[@leonsk1787]

Lol I was expecting the same thing.

[@almightycinder]

Mr Flibble is very cross!

[@djmexicanodetx2195]

Good morning Brad!

[@ThnkTheNazarine]

Angelique = 90s beauty.... Unmatched

[@JnEricsonx]

Watch her when she's younger in The Name of the Rose.

[@Gabes_Game_Cave]

I think Brad and lloyd might have the same voice actor.

[@adamwatson2914]

I think we all died a little inside when Pinhead said daddy in a child’s voice 😫

[@jacobwilbers6461]

i bet the people that did the wing commander games did the space cg in this and good to know that failing to say rising from the underworld in Latin correctly brings demons from hell.

[@davebooshty299]

21:10 Even seeing this in theaters its first week open , I still can't figure What Pinhead says at the very end , was it "Amen"?

[@chrisvarosky]

I am so happy to finally see this review! I remember going to see this shitfest when it first came out in theaters.

[@jeffsullivan2044]

Everytime i hear " We're playing an endgame Rimmer" I still burst out laughing.

[@MisterMelange]

I never got into the Hellraiser movies, but as a fan of terrible sci-fi horror movies of the 90s, this one ain't bad.

[@carlosarmandovegavazquez7038]

The last nail in the Hellraiser franchise coffin would be if Pinhead battles Sisqo. You know,the "Thong song" guy.

[@mrm.acampbell2722]

You know your movie is bad when you have an Alan Smithee credit

[@patrickmullowney4220]

I saw this film when it was out in cinemas. Whoa, what a stinker!

[@ldsupa87]

Zero dislikes means it’s the best review ever!

[@bigkmoviesandgames]

The Hellraiser series really should have ended after the third movie. The series has been going on for so long and after Hellraiser 4 every subsequent mediocre sequel has been released direct-to-video since the early 2000s. It's one of the few horror franchises that I think legitimately just needs a straight up remake. They should call it the Hellbound heart, like the novel. It's the only way I see this franchise ever having any legitimate quality or mainstream relevance again.

[@michaelbolcato192]

Well, there’s a Hellraiser remake that is supposed to come out sometime next year on Hulu with Clive Barker being involved and Pinhead is going to be a female in it.

[@bigkmoviesandgames]

@@michaelbolcato192 yeah I heard about that and I think having a transgender playing pinhead is kind of interesting but the Hulu release has me somewhat worried because oftentimes that means that the film wasn't good enough for theatrical release but it could be that they're just not willing to take a major risk on it considering the fact that it's been a straight to video series since the early 2000s I am looking forward to it since Clive Barker's actually involved this time so I'm cautiously optimistic.

[@earlthepearl6414]

Horror films are definitely my favorite reviews!

[@RhymeswithSpecialNeeds]

9:34 Twin Tower check ☑

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Hellraiser IN SPAAACE!

[@HarperSanchez]

Where’s my brother’s thumbs up, people? I still got you on my mind, Bradley! I’ll never forget my favorite shiney headed bastard!

[@PunnyFuzz]

For a hair of a second, I thought this was titled "Hellraiser Online"

[@AngelofMusic04]

No, that's the eighth movie... :shivers:

[@leewright1]

I like it.

[@JS-hw8ve]

My personal favs are 1 and 4. 1 for being original and new, and 4 for being a self contained story, that was advertised at the time as being the wrap up to the series. It wasn't perfect, it had some problems, but on the big screen, and seeing how it played out while still leaving room for the other movies to take place in between it's three segments it was one of the better big budget horror projects of it's time. It was also easy to accept it as being in it's own continuity, because frankly, without showing Frank et all the other aspects of the rest of the series, it was easy to isolate as a stand alone. Am I mad you riffed on it? Hell no. You have to be able to laugh at the things you like, to accept criticism and be honest about what they are. You made a great episode and were as right about the movie as you were entertaining. You even taught me a lot about the behind the scenes events, something I normally ignore. I didn't even know it was an Allan Smithee film until you teased it.

[@TheJzygorodimos]

5:10 reminds me of that guy from resident evil 4 btw

[@jaysonpressley8642]

Isn't the old French dude's henchman played by Adam Scott?

[@freeman5110]

That last part reminds me of the old Soviet joke..."We pretended to work and they pretended to pay us". That's the result.

[@Iggsy81]

please keep the hellraiser ones coming my man!

[@cambellfan22]

do I have a feeling the ninth configuration will be in a future review

[@gordylachance4764]

I wanna see a hellraiser super cut with all brad’s dubbing over pinhead.