Hendry v Davis 1990 UK Final Shootout

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madmoose147

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@deanakennedy3878
@deanakennedy3878 2 жыл бұрын
In 1984, on the way to a caravan holiday, I was 12 years old, I saw this man at a fuel station filling up his Porsche, I asked for his autograph, very politely said yes, he said "you can have this too", it was the fuel receipt with his signature, oh my how I wish I still had that, Steve Davis is a true gentleman and a Brilliant snooker player.
@senecaknowledge2274
@senecaknowledge2274 Жыл бұрын
This story makes him seem like a complete tosspot in all honesty
@Eat-MyGoal
@Eat-MyGoal 5 ай бұрын
@@senecaknowledge2274 Also sounds BS. Who has a fuel receipt before paying?
@robertstewart239
@robertstewart239 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Glasgow and saw the very beginning of Hendry's career, but moved abroad in January of 1988. So, I missed his rise to fame and domination of the game in the 90s. Brazilian sports channels didn't show any snooker when we got cable TV in the nineties. So, I only heard brief mentions about him in the Scottish newspapers my mum used to send me in those days. Now with KZbin it's like catching up with 30 lost years as I watch the likes of Stephen and Ronnie O'Sullivan. Many joyful hours of watching them playing and also revisiting the old greats that I watched in the early 80s. A lot of great characters there. Alex Higgins, Dennis Taylor, The Grinder... I love snooker.
@alastairmackay4861
@alastairmackay4861 Жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine that, I grew up watching hendry and as a fellow Scotsman he did us so proud. In my opinion, at his best, he was the greatest. Sorry you kissed it pal, he was great
@Alex-pr6zv
@Alex-pr6zv Жыл бұрын
Same here. I moved to Germany in May 1988 and have only begun to catch up 🙂
@aliorr9356
@aliorr9356 Жыл бұрын
Did you get a job with David hasselhoff knocking down the Berlin Wall?
@wormsnake1
@wormsnake1 3 жыл бұрын
The blue is the epitome of audaciousness...in that arena...under that pressure...with a rest...as good as any clearance in snooker. Only Hendry could do that. What a player.x
@JesseThehuSnooker
@JesseThehuSnooker 4 жыл бұрын
That blue finished Davis' era, great match!
@jamesluby6705
@jamesluby6705 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine Davis thinking he's bound to get another chance, it was a brave/insane shot to take on, but the guy has always had bottle...
@ianwilliamson2980
@ianwilliamson2980 3 жыл бұрын
Henry's blue was one of the greatest pressure shots of all time.
@zhenshuang
@zhenshuang 3 жыл бұрын
dont you think he just thought YOLO I all in?
@atulmehta5583
@atulmehta5583 2 жыл бұрын
See ebdon's shot on pink in 2002 world championship against Stevens
@Stu-SB
@Stu-SB 5 жыл бұрын
O'sullivan, Hendry, White, Davis, Higgins...all fantastic players lads.. no real reason to compare one against the other...we all breathed the same air..they were all/are outstanding.
@caaaaz1133
@caaaaz1133 2 жыл бұрын
Where’s Williams? White won nothing compared to Williams
@Eat-MyGoal
@Eat-MyGoal 5 ай бұрын
@@caaaaz1133 He's Welsh. So he doesn't count...
@scottleicester4266
@scottleicester4266 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best pressure clearances of all time, that blue was incredible!
@allthekingshorses7178
@allthekingshorses7178 3 жыл бұрын
Under pressure there was simply nobody else in Stephen Hendry's league
@scottleicester4266
@scottleicester4266 3 жыл бұрын
@@allthekingshorses7178 can’t argue with that, he did it time and time again.
@allthekingshorses7178
@allthekingshorses7178 3 жыл бұрын
O'Sullivan may be the most naturally gifted player ever, and Davis was exceptional at safety play, but Hendry's all round game was impeccable and faultless
@wormsnake1
@wormsnake1 3 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought they “one blue ball” would go in to shape and define the Hendry era. Played with the rest too!! Amazing match and frame of snooker. I will never forget this game!!x
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
Smashing video. Without a doubt, Hendry was the greatest predator the game has ever seen. At the tight end of a match, when your opponent starts missing easy pots that tension often spreads to your game. Certainly that is the case for most players, but with Hendry it just sparked him into life. Just the little hint of blood and the meanest baddest biggest bully in snooker put on his steel toecaps and stuck the boot in. Fantastic match player, the greatest ever.
@barath4545
@barath4545 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's funny how Hendry was actually a come-back-kid player. Down by obscene amounts in some World finals and still came back and won it.
@victors3803
@victors3803 3 жыл бұрын
As Steve said in his interview to Ronnie O’Sullivan that this loss was much worse than 1985 final. In 1985 Steve knew that he was better than Denis Taylor though he lost that match. But here he knew that his opponent was stronger than him.
@petergoddard262
@petergoddard262 5 жыл бұрын
End of an old legend and start of a new legend.
@ninman58
@ninman58 10 жыл бұрын
That blue might be the greatest shot under pressure in the history of snooker. Miss it, and you just lost the tournament, make it and you're back in the match. Not only that, it wasn't resting on the cushion, which makes it a much harder shot, plus the rest. A ridiculous shot.
@mariopuzo5594
@mariopuzo5594 7 жыл бұрын
18:42 insane and suicidal blue....
@tahachihab8226
@tahachihab8226 7 жыл бұрын
ninman58 the pockets were so big than they are now
@wayneholmes2623
@wayneholmes2623 6 жыл бұрын
A brown Hendry once played in a world final against Jimmy White from near the middle pocket was way more difficult and important than the blue here and if he had of missed it Jimmy White would of probably become world champion he was so far ahead in frames.
@barrylee1839
@barrylee1839 5 жыл бұрын
Taha Chihab But the tables now are so easy to play on.
@lionelspencer-ward3527
@lionelspencer-ward3527 3 жыл бұрын
This was 30 years ago!!! and can remember watching it on TV.....
@fradaja
@fradaja 9 жыл бұрын
1st frame is the strategic catalyst between the modern game and the bygone era, the perfect time to go into the reds is when you have loose reds, the old guys used to pick the reds off then go into the pack, problem being if you don't get on a red from the split, modern player's try and finish with one visit, strategic error, steve did have the technique to extend his era by another 10 years i recon he could have seriously dented hendry's titles, if he would have ditched the old mans game.
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 2 жыл бұрын
excellent point..
@georgeschofield6099
@georgeschofield6099 4 жыл бұрын
Cry with joy when he won noboby could won that match only great Stephen hendry do that was magic how kept is nervous was magic on edge my seat thank s best ever in snooker.never be nough Stephen hendry
@williamdmason9375
@williamdmason9375 7 жыл бұрын
Stephen he dry is the best ever player of the televised era of snooker to ever play the game
@roryfyfesmith8342
@roryfyfesmith8342 10 жыл бұрын
I am Scottish and loved in when Hendry was in his golden age. ..
@quick46
@quick46 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not Scottish & you can GFYM
@phillipangell5131
@phillipangell5131 5 жыл бұрын
I'm English and loved watching Hendry in his golden age, especially when he beat Jimmy and all the fanboys started crying!
@BoxxerCore
@BoxxerCore 7 жыл бұрын
What an absolute classic and a joy to watch. It's not often you get such a close and hard-fought final as this one 😲😃. Hendry and Davis, two of Snookers greatest.
@sugarray50
@sugarray50 6 жыл бұрын
Hendry was the best ever
@Bloxdio_God
@Bloxdio_God 2 жыл бұрын
Still is.
@oldmossystone
@oldmossystone 2 жыл бұрын
@Daniel B yes
@coys77
@coys77 5 жыл бұрын
Two totally different types of player; Davis picking off reds and playing the percentage shot, whereas Hendry went into the reds early and played attacking Snooker. Davis should have won that 16-14 but the new no.1 Hendry was something else, and Davis knew it. This match really was the turning point for both players.
@ianwilliamson2980
@ianwilliamson2980 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Davis had a cowardly streak but hendry dident .he went for his shots .
@thescrutineer7022
@thescrutineer7022 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion Davis was trying to keep his crown against a hungry youngster. He wasn't going to take any risks with this one!
@jamesgerrie674
@jamesgerrie674 8 жыл бұрын
anybody who says Davis was boring doesn't know anything about the game at all. Davis had the greatest cue action and killer instinct and greatest safety player the game has ever seen when in his prime.
@69elvisrocks
@69elvisrocks 8 жыл бұрын
yes totally agree I think Davis at his best would have been no match for anyone including Hendry & O Sullivan as he had the all round game, his safety place was second to none. Proof is O Sullivan, White & Higgins never won as much as Davis did because they took too many chances.
@JohnSmith-su3ze
@JohnSmith-su3ze 8 жыл бұрын
killer instinct? like with dennis taylor and joe johnson and in this video here? pffffft!
@juliedavidson3334
@juliedavidson3334 7 жыл бұрын
Julie davidson
@juliedavidson3334
@juliedavidson3334 7 жыл бұрын
+Julie Davidson Steve Davis was the devil of snooker for road safety
@Mikepower1978
@Mikepower1978 5 жыл бұрын
I love snooker. And the remarkle expert proponents of the game which we get to enjoyably watch. I am an observer soomrtman. And snooker is by far my most fascinating favourite game, it puts all else in my eyes to shame. Osullivan god bless Him.
@wingzero2348
@wingzero2348 6 жыл бұрын
To me this match showcased why Hendry is the greatest. Davis still near his prime, win this uk open and your a big fav to retain the world championship. However a near prime davis lost to an approaching peak hendry. Hendry would later go on to be at his best and most unstoppable. Only time anyone could beat him was the naturally gifted jimmy white, the guy could play shots on that thick cloth that none of these new kids can do on these super thin cloths.
@kenmckernan954
@kenmckernan954 9 жыл бұрын
Davis' number one strategy was to use his opponent's fear of him. He would often leave them half chances. They would get down on the shot thinking that if they missed it was frame over. It usually was. This match is obviously a 'passing of the torch' event, perfect in the way it was so close.....
@barraonuallain
@barraonuallain 3 жыл бұрын
Passing of the torch
@ahassen1236
@ahassen1236 3 жыл бұрын
I always considered this match as 'The handing of the Torch'
@trendingtv4882
@trendingtv4882 5 жыл бұрын
Hendry was amazing at potting in the middle
@abnashibanga2806
@abnashibanga2806 Жыл бұрын
Steve Davis still was winning ranking and invitation events in the mid 90s. He met Stephen in a lot of semis and finals, these two to me where similar to Graff vs Navratilova , evenely match, big title winners. Both sets of players from different sport were dedicated and relentless. Great champions Great times
@danielraynolds9502
@danielraynolds9502 Жыл бұрын
Hendry was much more attacking. As you saw in this footage..Stephen brought a brand new way to snooker. You can't rate Steve Davis amongst Stephen Hendry. Hendry was too talented and because of that too good for Davis. This was really the end of Steve Davis at his very best and the way people remembered him back then.
@davarosmith1334
@davarosmith1334 5 жыл бұрын
Steve could and should have beat Stephen there, but he was unlucky. Stephen Henry pulled it out the fire and played well!
@9sshty6
@9sshty6 9 жыл бұрын
There is no denying Ronnie's genius on the slate.......but all around Hendry is the greatest snooker player that ever lived hands down.......It's been an honor to have watched so many memorable matches from that era and onwards
@wid-box
@wid-box 6 жыл бұрын
todd defrederico what about r-i-p Paul Hunter ?
@mattk5020
@mattk5020 5 жыл бұрын
STEVE DAVIS IS THE ULTIMATE PLAYER.
@jezzaus2124
@jezzaus2124 3 жыл бұрын
That blue was borderline madness!
@adriancronin5869
@adriancronin5869 3 жыл бұрын
I had never seen this, only read the Clive Everton article in The Guardian at the time aptly called 'Two Kings produce a feast for the gods'. Hendry signed the article for me, must dig it out. Thanks for the upload, subbed.
@juchetony1910
@juchetony1910 Жыл бұрын
that blue down the cushion with the rest has to be one of the best ever shots in snooker history, given the circumstances.
@Davewise1965
@Davewise1965 11 жыл бұрын
Two snooker legends.
@vinnothelizard
@vinnothelizard 5 жыл бұрын
akan [s a great bloke and a great commentator !! bbc need someone like him !! hes brilliant !!
@dudleyburrow
@dudleyburrow 10 ай бұрын
Not often you can pinpoint the exact moment in a sport the torch is passed, but this is definitely one such example. Steve quickly faded after this. In the same token, the exact same happened about 10 years later when Stephen faded fast in the 00s and was never very competitive against O'Sullivan.
@LerafoLuap
@LerafoLuap 2 жыл бұрын
The changing of the guard.
@latifbutt7526
@latifbutt7526 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable clearance by the GOAT
@wormsnake1
@wormsnake1 Жыл бұрын
That final blue was tight against the cushion and nearer to the middle pocket than it was the end of the table. The break was outstanding. Legendary clearance up there with any ever made. Alex Higgins against Jimmy White in the 1982 world semi final was special but this frame was a “final” and potentially the last game. Miss the blue and it’s “final over”. Nerves of steel. Pound for pound my favourite player of all time. ⚪️🔴🟡🟢🟤🔵🟣⚫️.x
@Bloxdio_God
@Bloxdio_God 4 жыл бұрын
If Davis had won the 30th frame, he may well have won the World Championship in 1991. Alas, it was not to be.
@wayneholmes2623
@wayneholmes2623 6 жыл бұрын
The greatest pressure player and snooker champion of all time and this is the difference between Hendry and Davis. Hendry can play under extreme pressure and Steve Davis can't when he had 4 clear chances at least to take the title.
@ianwilliamson2980
@ianwilliamson2980 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Davis is a bit cowardly in his play where as henry goes for the game when he gets any chance.
@juanpinaalegret1620
@juanpinaalegret1620 4 жыл бұрын
Simplemente dos monstruos jugando una partida extraordinaria, lastima del fallecimiento llevándose a un grupo jugador.
@frankkelly8749
@frankkelly8749 9 жыл бұрын
hendry was a funny player...he would make bad misses and have players think they can take on half chances and when they missed hendry would clear up....just like in this frame....but steve didn't have the bottle to win close ones....he always beat players by several frame leads back in his day.....I love the game of snooker and the biggest crime was jimmy white not getting that world championship....if hendry loved the game he should of let him have it in 94 it would been great for the sport.
@John-tz2tx
@John-tz2tx 8 жыл бұрын
No pro would ever do that, Hendry himself said he almost wished he could have missed to let him win that frame in 94, but you can't do that.
@hafeezkhan7424
@hafeezkhan7424 8 жыл бұрын
+frank kelly why wud u want a ugly bald patch granddad looking white winning the world title over handsome, snooker maestro lol. maybe if white learned to attack more than rely on safety play he would of beat Hendry.
@John-tz2tx
@John-tz2tx 8 жыл бұрын
+Hafeez Khan White always left on chances but this was his one and only chance to crack the big one.
@hafeezkhan7424
@hafeezkhan7424 8 жыл бұрын
jimmy white was good player but Hendry was allrounder, mentally stronger for such young age.
@mariopuzo5594
@mariopuzo5594 8 жыл бұрын
18:50 crazy blue he went for but he potted it. Gutsy
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
why would I be pissed off when your quote further cemented my position? After the 2011 WSC, the commentators were all talking about Higgins being the greatest snooker player. It happens often. It's the hype of the moment. Hendry, otoh, has been consistently called the greatest, by commentators and the like, long after his last victories. Dennis, tho I agree is a great commentator, is not immune to the hype of the moment. With a clear mind, he has consistently stated Hendry is the greatest.
@craigsutherland4726
@craigsutherland4726 11 ай бұрын
Hendry- the best ever at hitting the pink right on the button when going to split the pack. No one could ever come near him at doing that
@ZEUSDAZ
@ZEUSDAZ 6 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand what Steve was thinking there (4:25), I bet he wished he could replay that shot,...and the ones at 11:08 + 13:12,...anywhere but there to land those whites, wrong player won this match. This was basically a changing of the guards as they say.
@underneonloneliness2
@underneonloneliness2 9 жыл бұрын
That blue he took on along the cushion wouldn't go in on the modern tables nowadays
@fradaja
@fradaja 9 жыл бұрын
clean as a whistle would have gone in on any table
@JohnSmith-su3ze
@JohnSmith-su3ze 8 жыл бұрын
on a modern table that blue would never have gone in Hendry is a hack
@fradaja
@fradaja 8 жыл бұрын
John Smith pffffssss you're funny
@margarita8442
@margarita8442 2 жыл бұрын
would light up an embassy to relax !!!!
@kevinscott1697
@kevinscott1697 4 жыл бұрын
This was a defining match in many ways, if Davis had won as he should have done he might have won another World title or two and while he by no means fell away after this, he still continued winning the odd tournament every now and again and stayed No 2 in the rankings for another five years or so, this match was the end of the dominant Davis and the manner of the defeat must have hurt him badly, he knew he’d let Hendry off the hook, Hendry had won his first World Title a few months earlier and the momentum had swung Hendry s way and if Davis had beaten Hendry here it would have been a big win momentum wise for him but after this I don’t think Davis reached another UK or Masters final for a few years after until he got to the Masters final in 1997 and that was his last tournament win. Hendry s blue in the penultimate frame was maybe the best pressure pot ever and in many ways raised the standard which the other players took years to reach.
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 2 жыл бұрын
i think he Hendry would have still been the 1990s man but Davis would have hanged around more...and picked Stephen off now and again rather than losing all the time to him..
@danielreynolds8357
@danielreynolds8357 Жыл бұрын
Steve Davis looked dejected in alot of the later frames. He must of been wondering exactly what he had to do to overcome Stephen hendry in this final. Both played really well.
@ozdorothyfan
@ozdorothyfan 8 жыл бұрын
It's a pity Stephen and O'Sullivan weren't in their prime at the same time. That would have made for some exhilarating snooker with two born gunfighters slugging it out for supremacy.
@SnookerFan-kl1jj
@SnookerFan-kl1jj 4 жыл бұрын
ozdorothyfan, Their prime is not a relevant factor since both players always bought their A game when they played each other. There have been plenty of great matches between these two.
@thebestever9920
@thebestever9920 3 жыл бұрын
@@SnookerFan-kl1jj agreed,for me the best was the 2002 semi final on The world championship
@williamyohananlavi9598
@williamyohananlavi9598 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebestever9920 I think 1999 more so
@ianwilliamson2980
@ianwilliamson2980 4 жыл бұрын
The changing of the guard there.
@tonyalder
@tonyalder 3 жыл бұрын
Ian Williamson so true Davis was still a good player but Stephen broke the strangle hold of the Davis era
@ianwilliamson2980
@ianwilliamson2980 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyalder yes henry was just too good a potter for Davis to handle .
@tonyalder
@tonyalder 3 жыл бұрын
Ian Williamson that’s true but in this game the penultimate frame Davis with that 50 break and got out of position he would back in the days of dominance he would of play a safety he got drawn by Hendry into going for the pot he would of won the match if he played a safety shot in my opinion that shot cost him the game but your right a changing of the guard but people don’t realise Davis was still a top player in the nineties it’s that he wasn’t winning that people think he had lost it he was as good as ever just a new comer was taking over
@ianwilliamson2980
@ianwilliamson2980 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyalder yeah that's true .he was a very good player all round .as was ray reardon in his day.i still think that henry at his best would beat Davis .and John higgins too I would say but not many others .Ronnie is amazing but plays crazy shots sometimes .
@tonyalder
@tonyalder 3 жыл бұрын
Ian Williamson I agree Hendry was a slightly better player I mean this game was the game where both where at good levels and Hendry was the better player Davis had to win this one to keep the aura on Hendry and he couldn’t do it...to me Reardon,Davis,Hendry and O‘Sullivan are the best because multiple world champions you have to respect...but it’s a shame Hendry and Davis only played two semis in the world championships it would of been good to see them battle it out like this UK open final
@HRHooChicken
@HRHooChicken 9 жыл бұрын
Ronnie is the greatest snooker player in history. The fact he's won 5 titles while battling his horrific personal demons says a lot.
@vincesplc
@vincesplc 8 жыл бұрын
+HRHooChicken bullshit!!
@saints16o5o87
@saints16o5o87 8 жыл бұрын
+HRHooChicken bullshit. personal demons?? his only demon is knowing he never beat the records these two set
@idontknowyou876
@idontknowyou876 7 жыл бұрын
brian marshall ahahahahahaha
@bartelR
@bartelR 7 жыл бұрын
Those demons made him the person / where created by the person, that he is now. Without them, there would be no Ronnie O'Sullivan. One has to take those as a part of his development and his whole personality and ability to play like he did and does and to be one of the greatest / maybe the greatest, player(s) of all time.
@Home_946
@Home_946 6 жыл бұрын
brian marshall You're stupid aren't you
@ashleyalmond4463
@ashleyalmond4463 5 жыл бұрын
Some funny comments here. Hendry played in a weak era, ok then let's take away all the titles that Ronnie won in that weak era. Funny but during that weak era Ronnie won absolutely no World titles. The huge difference between the two greats is that Hendry even below par, which was rare at the time invariably made finals and won finals, Ronnie got knocked out, by so called weak players. The simple truth is that when both players were on form Hendry literally always came out on top, 1997 Charity Challenge, 1999 World Championship Semi, 2002 World Championship Semi, super high standard from both players, Hendry wins. Anyone can win or lose easy, it's those games when we see their best that show us who is the best. Amount of centuries is a silly reason for an argument, but Hendry had 7 in a UK final against Doherty, a record to this day, that was in 1994. Hendry also had 16 centuries in the World Championships, another record, when he retired he was still banging them in quite regular but it's the twitches that began a decade earlier and the broken cue which inevitably brought on his demise. But in around 10 years of absolute dominance from Hendry he managed to beat every record of consequence and take the game to a whole new level. Head to head with Ronnie was close as you would expect up until Hendry losing his game, that's when O Sullivan finally started to dominate, along with many others. Ronnie has been playing at or near the top for an incredible amount of time but when exactly is his era? The Steve Peters factor is vital to Ronnie, without him i'd say Ronnie may well have retired by now, no such help for Stephen, it would have been interesting if he did go down that road though, we may have had a Hendry resurgence. I say well played Stephen, thanks for the memories and you were a gent from start to finish. The greatest.
@BradRae188
@BradRae188 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@andyhumphrey9351
@andyhumphrey9351 4 жыл бұрын
what about when ronnie demolished hendry wc semi 17-4 or 17-6 or summat. ok your a hendry fan. my personal opinion davis is a better player coz he had the all round game hendry dident.
@Geena-tn1pt
@Geena-tn1pt 4 жыл бұрын
lol Hendo was washed up by that time .Davis had fuckin' nightmares against Hendry Hendry was far more dangerous. Davis might have had a better all round game. But Hendry's aggression and break building, bravery and temperament were just too strong for him.
@andyhumphrey9351
@andyhumphrey9351 4 жыл бұрын
@@Geena-tn1pt davis and jimmy was washed up by then you mean, davis still got 15 frames off him lol.
@Geena-tn1pt
@Geena-tn1pt 4 жыл бұрын
If Davis & Jimmy were washed up then Hendry was washed by around 2003/04. Hendry still beat Davis about 23 times in a row
@Mitjitsu
@Mitjitsu 9 жыл бұрын
Lol wat? Calling the current world champion at the time a spent force? Obviously Hendry and other players were about to overtake him, but he was still a threat to the top players.
@parksyist
@parksyist 3 жыл бұрын
Hendry was current world champion
@josefserf1926
@josefserf1926 11 ай бұрын
11:00 + 12:44 snooker history might have turned out different if Davis had judged those easy pots better. Then came that legendary blue to seal his fate 18:38
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
And it's imposible to ignore your arguments, because you haven't made any. "most people think ronnie is the greatest ever" is not an argument, and is the entirety of what you have presented. Just more projection. Ron is so good, the greatest natural talent ever, that it only took him 16 years from first picking up a cue, to becoming world champion. The greatest ever! Oh wait, it only took Hendry 8 years? Oh golly, I wonder if winning snooker tournaments is about more than just potting balls, hmm
@trendingtv4882
@trendingtv4882 5 жыл бұрын
Calling him an old man he was only 33 here lol
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
Are you going to provide evidence any time soon.
@jamesgerrie674
@jamesgerrie674 8 жыл бұрын
Davis wasn't boring he should have won at least 8 world titles and shouldn't have lost to Taylor or Johnson and that's the only 2 hiccups he suffered badly because should have won that 2 world titles 2. if Davis was Hendry's age Hendry would have got his ass kicked by Davis because he was the greatest all round player the game has ever seen.
@dlamiss
@dlamiss 8 жыл бұрын
+James Gerrie They were both great players but the standard of the opposition got better as the 80s progressed. You had the likes of David Taylor Spencer and Fred Davis ( the latter two great in their days but well past it by 1982) and Perrie Mans in the top 16 in 1982....hardly likely to worry Steve Davis....; Look at the number of century breaks made in major championships in the 80s. Probably about a dozen.... Come the 90s the standard was far higher. One final point Hendry won the world championship 5 out of 6 years at his best.....
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
It is from an interview he gave.
@RogerJJSmith
@RogerJJSmith 3 жыл бұрын
This video shows why Hendry will always be slightly ahead of Davis in the GOAT debates. Hendry was absolutely clinical under pressure; Davis would occasionally crack, as he did against Higgins in the 83 UK final and here against Hendry, and as he did against Taylor and Johnson in the world finals. There is no way that Hendry would ever have missed all 4 of the chances that Davis had to win the title here in frame 30, when 1 up with 2 to play.
@clint4661
@clint4661 3 жыл бұрын
Davis didn't crack against Johnson. Johnson outplayed him in the 86 world final.
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
Taylor aslo said(this year 2013) That for Ronnie to overtatke Hendry as the greatest, he will need to win 8 world titles.
@69elvisrocks
@69elvisrocks 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with Steve Davis I doubt O Sullivan can even win 8 world titles...……...
@omegaman6494
@omegaman6494 3 жыл бұрын
18:54-the shot that turned the match.
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
have all recently claimed Hendry is the greatest ever. In the last 5 years I've seen Davis cite 3 different players as the greatest ever. Commentators get caught up in the hupe of the occasion, they over-exagerate what is going on because they are trying to sell their sport. Ron is "box-office" as they always say, he draws in the crowds, which helps pay their wages. To further do that, they have to sell Ron to the public as a genius. Almost nothing a commentator says is worth true consideration.
@jamiebanner3000
@jamiebanner3000 4 жыл бұрын
If you watch the 1982 semi finals Ray Reardon vs Eddie Charlton and Alex Higgins vs Jimmy White the standard of play is this high as you can get. I do think they are exaggerating the standard of today compared with other era's. People forget a great player Ray Reardon was the forgotten champion. at his best would give all the top players of today problems his standard was so high. They talk about Steve Davis and Stephen Hendry era's but never talk about Reardon era. And for me is like one of the greatest players of all time. I think Ray Reardon once wiped washed Jimmy White 9-0. Nobody else has ever done that. At his best his standard was above most players even of today. You watch Reardon vs Charlton there's no way players like Ali Carter, Stuart Bingham, Graeme Dott standard is as high. So yeah it is a load of bull.
@jamiebanner3000
@jamiebanner3000 4 жыл бұрын
@Storm Woods Dude watch this full video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5q1cp2fpqithrs Ray was pure class. And was number one at this time. Won so many events throughout his career much more supreme to Davis. Yeah I remember that he wiped washed him. may not be 9-0... But it wasn't a proper tournament or ranking event or anything... Could've been pot black? Don't think so...
@jamiebanner3000
@jamiebanner3000 4 жыл бұрын
@Storm Woods agree. I'm too young. But I speak to my mate who's older than me who lived through the Ray Reardon domination. He swears Ray Reardon"s level of consistency is still one of the best of all time. That's why he won so many tournaments including 6 world. Lots of those tournaments don't exist anymore
@jamiebanner3000
@jamiebanner3000 4 жыл бұрын
@Storm Woods 👍. True. They're right These people don't get it.
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your life story son. rivetting. Tell me more about you being a little girl who couldn't get past their biases and come to terms with their hwero not being the greatest anymore. You've still presented no argument other than you believe it, so it must be true. Well done. In all sports the greatest is normally decided by how many majors they won, but somehow when it comes to snooker those rules don't apply. I wonder why. Hendry world titles 7, Ron 5. Ranking titles hendry 36, Ron 25.
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
wow, in the heat of the moment, when a player was about to win a major tournament, a commentator made an overstated comment. We've never seen that before. During last years world championship he also said Ronnie would need to win 8 world titles to overtake Hendry as the greatest. As I've already explained, commentators talk bollocks, we'll see what he thinks when he has time to properly reflect on a tournament that was notedly void of class where Rons win came through no serious challenges
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
And within two days of saying this, "I used to say Hendry overtook Davis as the greatest, with Ronnie at number 3. But I would put him top of the list now and say he is the greatest player to ever pick up a cue" He said this, "There'd be nothing wrong with winning the World Championship every year and playing in nothing else. And then when he's overtaken Stephen Hendry(in reaching 8 titles) I'll say he's the greatest player that's ever picked a cue up" Commentators, bastions of logic and sense
@James-hh1lq
@James-hh1lq 4 жыл бұрын
For natural ability ronnie eas thr best 147 break in 6 mins. Shame his mental health issues held him back
@benrichards399
@benrichards399 8 жыл бұрын
it always amazed me, how both these players went down hill as soon as they hit 30.
@Yellowswift3
@Yellowswift3 11 ай бұрын
I think a big factor to be considered is when they start a family/get married.
@christiano8088
@christiano8088 2 жыл бұрын
If Davies had managed to win here, in fr 30 especially, im sure he coukd have won a couple more Worlds, this was the frame Hendry got into Davies' head and was the end of an era.
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
"keep it real from now on kid. respect." The irony. It is 2013, you're being schooled on youtube. It is not a cheesy 1970's movie about black kids in the hood. Good to see you finally concede something, instead of blithely ignoring every cogent point I've made. So according to Taylor, Ron needed to win 8 titles to overtake Hendry, and then in the space of three sessions of snooker he only needed to win 5, something must've happened in Taylors mind. Lets pinpoint what that was. A shot Ron played?
@RoniAlush
@RoniAlush 3 жыл бұрын
Very hard to figure out the colors in these old videos
@y2kazan868
@y2kazan868 6 жыл бұрын
Aggressive
@davidelder8100
@davidelder8100 5 жыл бұрын
Ronnie has had to play a much better standard of player inhis era he’s the 🐐
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
It's hard to take someone seriously when they claim that titles, records, and win percentages are just stats and don't matter. Claiming that all snooker commentators agree Ronnie is the greatest, and providing no proof for that claim. That Hendry only won in a weak era, an era that Ronnie was also in. That White was better than Reardon even though past his prime and half blind he tied White 5 apiece. That my sexuality is relevant to the topic of who is the greatest snooker player ever.
@darrenmcgowan3932
@darrenmcgowan3932 5 жыл бұрын
Davis never played bad shots when he was king!!! Thats why his game fell apart!! Should have won 16-14.
@mikebest634
@mikebest634 4 жыл бұрын
Davis lost his game when the new lighter Aramith balls came out and new faster cloths were fitted to tables ,it never really suited his style of play .
@parksyist
@parksyist 6 жыл бұрын
Such a ballsy black at 59 leaving them all for steve if he had missed
@zakariaez497
@zakariaez497 8 жыл бұрын
This is why hendry is the ultimate legend and the king of the game. No one can beat hendry in his prime not even prime o'sullivan. End of story
@vincesplc
@vincesplc 8 жыл бұрын
+Zakariae Z HAVE TO AGREE THERE BUD!!
@JohnSmith-su3ze
@JohnSmith-su3ze 8 жыл бұрын
absolute nonsense. O'Sullivan beat hendry 17-4 in 2004 hendry isnt fit to chalk O'Sullivan's cue
@magnus7524
@magnus7524 7 жыл бұрын
John Smith remember 17 13 in 2002 when Ronnie was talking shit about Hendry ahahaha
@magnus7524
@magnus7524 7 жыл бұрын
John Smith The year after Ronnie won his first World Title. Should of been well able to beat Hendry then.
@vincesplc
@vincesplc 7 жыл бұрын
well said..
@spleeeen4it
@spleeeen4it 7 жыл бұрын
davis had somany chances to win this 16-14, really should have won
@yamiyugi1238
@yamiyugi1238 7 жыл бұрын
spleeeen4it Yep i agree i think Davis got a bit nervous and negative he ran out of postion a lot.I think he sensed that Hendry was a serious threat to him and cracked under the pressure.This is basically when Hendry became the dominant force.
@Matt_LeTissier
@Matt_LeTissier 5 жыл бұрын
@@yamiyugi1238 Definitely. In late 80s, Hendry was already tipped to be a cat5 hurricane even when it was still 1000 km awayt
@AngrierGorilla
@AngrierGorilla 10 жыл бұрын
Davis lost this because he did too many positional mistakes in frame 30
@Mssmaimone
@Mssmaimone 9 жыл бұрын
AngrierGorilla No doubt about it, I think he started to feel the pressure, he knew his time was ending and Hendry was becoming the best around...
@Mikepower1978
@Mikepower1978 5 жыл бұрын
Modern snooker is amazing. All respect to these amazing contributers to our game. But shit the modern guys are good. Williams would hit most of these missed shots straight in. And Osullivan, well let's just all bless His gift of a soul.
@Mikepower1978
@Mikepower1978 5 жыл бұрын
No disrespect to Higgins and Williams and these last generation guys. They have all contributed to what we have now. In ways none of us observers could imagine. What a game!
@Mikepower1978
@Mikepower1978 5 жыл бұрын
Ps I am in awe of Hendry and all this era right up or down to DRACULA.
@tfenderbosch1664
@tfenderbosch1664 8 жыл бұрын
Contee I'd like to see Ronnie face a real opponent in his next Wsc final
@saints16o5o87
@saints16o5o87 8 жыл бұрын
+Ruco 2016 if he ever gets to the final again. not in the same league as these two guys at their best. not even got 3 in a row like davis never mind 5 in a row like hendry. age 30 hendry had seven world titles ronnie had 2.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 8 жыл бұрын
Hendry never won anything important after turning 30. Hendry 7 world titles in the weakest era of snooker ever, with basically no opposition. Peak Ronnie will go through peak Hendry like a knife through butter
@tfenderbosch1664
@tfenderbosch1664 8 жыл бұрын
Bogdan Nistor. I have to say when those two met in 1999 and 2002 it was Hendry that came out on top. But after that it has been almost all Ronnie.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 8 жыл бұрын
Ruco 2016 Ronnie was not an all-round player back then. His tactical and safety game were nowhere near as good as nowadays. Plus he wasn't as mentally tough as he is now.
@saints16o5o87
@saints16o5o87 8 жыл бұрын
if hes so mentally tough now why hasnt he won world title for last few years and why has selby got two of the last three and been number one for last few years? or is he not just always been unable to compete at the top level and win consistently? if hes an all round player now i dont see that his performances are much different than they were in the 90s other than he has no stephen hendry to worry about now.
@nzrdb6
@nzrdb6 7 жыл бұрын
Hendry, like Selby after him, was the master of consistency and a good all-round player. What he never did was touch the highest realms that only a genius can reach. Snooker has had only two geniuses. Alex Higgins and Ronnie. Don't look for consistency from either though. You can only fly close to the sun so many times. The greatest break every in the game was Higgins' 69 in 1982. Nobody has ever approached the breath-taking audacity of this before or since.
@kevinprior3549
@kevinprior3549 5 жыл бұрын
So was Davis in the 80s. 6 world titles is pretty consistent. Cud say same Reardon in 70s tho there was only a handful of really good players inc Spencer, Montjoy and A Higgins
@jessebella9322
@jessebella9322 Жыл бұрын
Its always funny when the crowd clap at the most simple shots, I mean for club players they are even pretty easy but for a pro, its a gimme, clap clap clap. lol
@ShakerMrschips
@ShakerMrschips 4 жыл бұрын
Great blue but jeez them pockets are huge, hit the cushion first, how did that drop 😂
@TheMimetolithman
@TheMimetolithman 7 жыл бұрын
Poor Steve lost 2 he Never should have lost'
@idontknowyou876
@idontknowyou876 7 жыл бұрын
14.20....a club playr wouldnt play a safety like that anymore...actually not for years
@zicozico196
@zicozico196 4 жыл бұрын
Hendry was gentleman both winning or losing.O Sullivan was real asshole when Steven took him couple times in a row.Ronnie left the game once...
@shane-irish
@shane-irish 3 жыл бұрын
That blue
@kirrithkovacs5097
@kirrithkovacs5097 3 жыл бұрын
captain charisma vs captain excitement
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
And for posterity sake, my position on commentators opinions: "In the last 5 years I've seen Davis cite 3 different players as the greatest ever. Commentators get caught up in the hype of the occasion, they over-exagerate what is going on because they are trying to sell their sport, which helps pay their wages. Almost nothing a commentator says is worth true consideration." And your fallacy ridden claim: " no serious commentator on the game today will deny that o'sullivan is the greatest"
@jamesgerrie674
@jamesgerrie674 8 жыл бұрын
Davis should have won the UK in 1990 he led 15-14 and by nearly 50+ in frame for title but ran out of position to get game ball and that's all he wanted and very unlike Davis to throw that title away after leading so much in frame he wanted to win title. When Davis played at his greatest Hendry couldn't beat him as Steve was already past his best when Hendry came good. but yeah Steve should have won this one.
@birdandthe
@birdandthe 5 жыл бұрын
Great though davis was he had a poor record in final frame deciders in finals of UK and World, lost to Higgins, Hendrie and Taylor
@1010thechamp
@1010thechamp 10 жыл бұрын
Shirley you are deluded in your love for Ronnie, as great as he is I still think Hendry is the greatest ever.
@1010thechamp
@1010thechamp 9 жыл бұрын
madmoose147 The rest bore you? We just had the most exciting and highest quality world championship ever in 2015... and you know what was missing? Hendry in his prime, he's the only player who could have raised this championship even higher, fair enough you're a Ronnie fan, but when someone's past their best and approaching 40 years old like Davis here and Ronnie this year there's nothing that can be done, this match was passing of the torch, changing of the guard, I admire Davis for putting up such a good fight. The key thing for me in believing Hendry is slightly better than Ronnie are the 2 semi finals of the world championship in 1999 and 2002, Ronnie was just coming into his prime and Hendry at the end of his best, those 2 matches showed Hendry to be slightly better overall player, sure Hendry beat Ronnie in the early 90's and Ronnie beat Hendry in the mid to late 2000's but that 2002 semi when O'Sullivan was fired up and ready to send Hendry "back to his sad life" but failed to do so even though they were basically trading centuries until Hendry broke him in the 2nd session was telling, who knows what these 2 could have achieved if it wasn't for O'Sullivan's depression and other mental problems or Hendry's lack of motivation and that horrible yips he had from 1998 onwards, maybe both would have won 10 or more titles, just let these 2 greats be what they are, the best of their era along with Davis the best of the 80's, 3 legends in my eyes.
@AngrierGorilla
@AngrierGorilla 9 жыл бұрын
maybe we just have to accept that it doesn't exist "the greatest ever". It's much more complicated than this...
@vincesplc
@vincesplc 9 жыл бұрын
TheChamp 101 HAVE to agree there HENDRYS the GREATEST!
@amarsbarr
@amarsbarr 8 жыл бұрын
he may be the greatest ever in the record books as John Virgo said but no one cares about Stephen Hendry and sorry to say it's true. I care for Hendry a lot but sorry he's like Davis, they are both two great snooker players both unbelievably talented and very successful but for fucks sake can both be anymore boring
@vincesplc
@vincesplc 8 жыл бұрын
+amarsbarr well your not a true snooker fan then simple as as i love watching hendry and davis they are not boring its all in your head!!
@c150gpilot
@c150gpilot 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my! Snooker watchers trying to win the comments!
@borisandraisateplitsky5880
@borisandraisateplitsky5880 9 жыл бұрын
STEPHEN HENDRY GREATEST PLAYER EVER!!! HANDS DOWN YOU O'SULLIVAN PUPPIES THATS UNDERSTAND SNOOKER AS A PIG ABOUT PINEAPPLES!!!
@joaochanoca3317
@joaochanoca3317 8 жыл бұрын
Boris and Raisa Teplitsky In fact the best perfomance of O'Sullivan is way better than the best perfomance of Stephen Hendry.
@vincesplc
@vincesplc 8 жыл бұрын
+João Francisco Chanoca hendry was better in his prime than scumy osulivan!
@Jessebella1
@Jessebella1 5 жыл бұрын
Really got the audience on their toes? lol. I think the term on the edge of their seats is a better one for here....
@nikhilc8681
@nikhilc8681 5 жыл бұрын
Steve never appeared in a UK final again.
@thecastingaddictschannel861
@thecastingaddictschannel861 4 жыл бұрын
Nikhil Chandra did 2005 against ding
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
Hard to take you seriously when you claim to have read freud, and continue to use words that you don't understand. Which is my personal favourite. When I had to explain to you that ad hominem didn't mean what you think it did, and then you typed it in google to find its definition. You probably went to wikipedia(ha!), and then you tried(but failed), to manipulate your previous comments so that they weren't ad hominem but relevant to the argument. That made me laugh, at you, the most.
@adronias
@adronias 11 жыл бұрын
oh, eras overlapped. So if two players didn't become pro in the same year, they are from different eras? David turned pro in 78, and White 80. Different eras? Parrot turned pro in 83, is he a different era from, Davis or White? Hendry turned pro 86, different Era from Parrot? Doherty turned pro in 90, different era from Hendry? Ebdon and Williams turned pro in 91, different era from Hendry? Higgins and Ronnie turned pr in 92, different era from doherty? Why persist in embarrassing yourself?
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