100. Ukrainians and Jews in Revolutionary Times (Jewish History Lab)

[@darrenglick100]

Always learn something new from your lectures

[@melodyh9720]

Thank you for the history and struggles of Ukraine and Russia. It helps me peice together the present. Definitely praying for Ukraine in these fearful times.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Praying as well.

[@austengibbs5120]

Your lectures continue to educate, enthrall and provide incredible insight and knowledge. Todah rabah Rabbi.

[@pheebsbee1280]

Thank you - for another informative history lesson = )

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

My pleasure!

[@karlschreiber9286]

Thank You Henry. Very important in this times.

[@historicalminds6812]

Congrats on episode 100!

[@lilysignoret8501]

I recieved your book today. Mazal tov on the 100th class in this series!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thank you! Enjoy in good health.

[@Zeyev]

Thanks. My grandfathers both came from today's Ukraine, my paternal from Odessa and my maternal from Mykolaiv on Dniester. They came to the USA long before the post-WWI fighting. Other than that, we know practically nothing about them.

[@ThunderAppeal]

You dont know what youre talking about. Odessa was *NOT part of ukraine before ww1

[@Zeyev]

@@ThunderAppeal I agree and that's what I said - or tried to say. I apologize for not making it clearer.

[@ThunderAppeal]

@@Zeyev I'm sorry for my hostility. This whole thing is such a sad mess.

[@Zeyev]

@@ThunderAppeal I did not view it as hostile - I was more concerned about my occasional lapse into incoherence. There are times when it's not clear that English is my native language - even though it is. Alas. Yes, the situation is a mess - and worse. Here I sit in the USA hoping that Ukraine and Russia can figure out how to be good neighbors and knowing I can do nothing to help them. Oh, how I wish I could drag their leaders into a locked room and tell them there would be no food or bathrooms until they came to a peaceful solution.

[@christopherperezperez6456]

Great presentation. Would you mind If I shared shorter clip versions online. ?

[@messidor4399]

Thank you so much for your excellent videos Dr. Abramson. Cheers from Paris.

[@lilysignoret8501]

Pr Abramson, can I talk to you, about the book? How can I best reach you?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

I would suggest email.

[@nazarlukashov8406]

0:48 Actually in the top left corner of the bill, it goes in pre-revolutionary Russian, not Ukrainian. Yet, the three smaller text boxes are in Ukrainian.

[@goranmiljus2664]

Everyone was oppressed, NOT just the Jews. Actually i would argue the city folk (jews) had it better than the rural peasants. Just as the average New Yorker has it better than a rural American.

[@cringlator]

Дякую вам за історію!

[@Headhunter_212]

Thanks as always Dr A This is the period during which my wife’s people (maternal GM & GF and his brothers) fled Odessa in 1920. First to Europe London Cuba and then the land of milk and honey , i.e. Brooklyn, 516 and 305. And thanks for the suggested reading. I’ll pick those up.

[@ketronjapan]

As always another winner:))

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Glad you found it useful1

[@esty6374]

Liked before I watched it

[@LAILA-2816]

Rabbi it's been ages I've been away miss your jokes And I would have thought you would be in front of a live audience by now rabbi Hope you and family are well I'm playing catch up Boru hashem! (I learnt that from you by the way 😊) Look forward to catching up.

[@dmitryberger2257]

Was a little disappointed to hear about Makhno's anarchist movement in the context of Jewish pogroms. Whereas the Makhnovists had a serious spat with the German colonists, not Mennonites, but most Catholics, who took up arms against the insurgency, they, being anarchist-internationalists, were not anti-Semitic at all, In fact their leadership featured quite a few Jews: Kogan, Chernoknizhny, and famous Liev Zadov and Volin, a prominent anarchist thinker. Zeleny (Green) were not anarchists, just a mix groups of anti-goverments insurgents.

[@lainefrajberg955]

Perhaps Rabbi Abramson,confused Makhno's Black Army with Gregoriev's Green Army which did massacre Jews.Svartsbard,himself,was an anarchist,who had previously served in Makhno's army,They met again in Paris where Makhno tried to talk Svartsbard out of killing Hetman Petliura.Unsuccessfully as it turned out.

[@dmitryberger2257]

@@lainefrajberg955 Maybe. But Gregoriev wasn't green either. This term refers to Ataman Zeleny, who was, as many were, initially on the UNR side, but split in the early 1919, as many other independent leaders did. Swartzbard was actually kind of French, he served in the French army during WWI, came to Ukraine later. I don't think he served in the Makhnovist Revolutionary Ukrainian insurgent army, as far as I'm aware.. I think he died in South Africa. What a journey for him. I don't think Abramson is a Rabbi, he stresses it in his excellent lectures.))

[@lainefrajberg955]

@@dmitryberger2257 According to Wikipedia,the Ataman of the Greens was a certain Danylo Terpylo.Apparently,Gregoriev co-operated with him at times.But the Green leader he was not.Both Terpylo's and Gregoriev's units were involved in pogroms.Makhno's units were also accused of involvement in pogroms but Makhno vehemently denied the charge.And his present day supporters still do.So...maybe,maybe not.But,Makhno, himself ,was not a Jew hater and according to some sources,neither was Petliura.(His army,however, unquestionably did commit terrible pogroms.)Shvarzbard was an anarchist and he did fight in the anarchist army in 1919 before fleeing to Paris .After his trial he eventually moved to South Africa where he died in 1938-though his preference was mandatory Palestine.He died in 1938.The sequel of the assassination was horrible.When the Germans entered Western Ukraine in 1941,the locals went crazy tearing Jews to pieces in Lwow/Lviv (and elsewhere) claiming this was their revenge for Petliura's murder in 1926-though ironically Petliura,himself,was widely disliked in eastern Galicia.

[@dmitryberger2257]

@@lainefrajberg955 1941 had nothing to do with Petlura's assassination. It was a different story. Even though the units associated with Makhno, and it was not a regular army but rather a guerilla groups, were involved in pogroms, the punishment, if caught, for that was death. in this sense the Makhnovists were no different from the Bolsheviks. In fact they were a part of the Red Army in 1919 and retained its structure. Jews were prominent in the movement however. Even the American Emma Goldberg and Berkman were connected with Makhno. We must understand also that in those confused times the same unit could go from Ukrainian to Grigoriev to Makhno to the Reds to the Whites in a matter of months, while committing pogroms under different banners. Makhno and Berkman in the 1920-s.

[@xSolomon454x]

A really good video! Shame about the nester makno slander though, he executed the bandit that did that progrom

[@Viewer163]

You are absolutely right. Makhno was probably a single war leader, who wasn't antisemitic.

[@herschel7643]

You can’t slander a mass murderer

[@robertomorales8286]

Excelent lecture about history of jews in Ucraine.

[@zafirjoe18]

תודה רבה רבה

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

שום דבר

[@zafirjoe18]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD אין בעד מה

[@delprice3007]

Thankyou

[@SionTJobbins]

incredible to see Yiddish (in Hebrew script!) on an European banknote. And to think supporters of Ukrainian independence seem (by Russian supporters) to be always anti-Semitic and is used as one argument against Ukrainian independence (though, that's never used against the German right to be independent). This, of course, doesn't mean that the discraceful treatement of Jews by Ukrainians shouldn't be discussed openly, but it does give some balance. Your point Henry about minority/immigrant communities aligning themselves with the stonger and dominant (though, in colonised countries, not always the biggest community numerically) language, culture and state-affiliation is excellent, and often not noted or ignored. Same is true of Jewish community in Prague in early C20th who aligned with German language culture although German was, by then, a minority community language in Prague which had become re-Czechised in the C19th. In a way, the language and state-affiliation shown by minority/immigrant cultures is a good baraometer of which language and nationality is the most dominant one within the state.

[@matthewsainsbury2367]

Thank you henry abramson for youre imformative video as we see that ukraine and russia are on the news now more than ever ,the polgroms history you shared im not to familiar with since the nazi holocaust is most familiar happy upcoming purim to you

[@joeluna7729]

Todah Prof. - I was surprised to discover their are still 75,000 Yehudim in Ukraine now, and the Ukraine President is Jewish too. -- We need to be praying for them, as Putin is massing his Army on their border.

[@lainefrajberg955]

And the previous Prime Minister was a Jew as well.

[@joeluna7729]

@@lainefrajberg955 Wow. Ukraine must have very nice, open-minded people, to do that. Russia on the other hand, not so kind to us, historically. I hope Russia doesn't invade. Thank you for the info.

[@petrokrasnov2967]

It is not true. US propaganda.

[@ibnyahud]

turn off your TV the "news" is corporate propaganda hardly any of it is true it's all to mislead people and form lucrative narratives for political donors

[@michaelgoldstein2030]

Thanks for this amazing lecture! I'm curious if the 100 karbovanec bill that you showed was from the Ukranian people's republic or the Western Ukrainian people's republic. A bit surprised to see Polish on a bill from the former but not from the latter. Thanks!

[@ivan162]

Ukrainian People's Republic

[@kakaroth80]

✅

[@paulholland932]

Cool

[@jacklin231]

No suffering no dignity and no nation, the Jewish people jumped so many obstacles to build their nation ,tell me our professor do you speak french ?🤔🤔

[@immortal5383]

Those are some damn good lawyers

[@michaelferto6588]

...After the first world war, the west continued east for a few years....The Communist were able to withstand onslaughts from many sides....The west had to retreat, as the Russians and Communist consolidated, their control over the populations and lands....Many smaller ethnic groups and nations were caught in the middle, and had to make the best of things....The Czar wasn't restored, and the roaring twenties was a roaring time in world history.... Fortunately, Jews and others managed.....

[@bobbi5523]

kind of your specialty ;) not that you don't know everything about History ;)

[@Conky769]

Maybe because the Tulmud... a book made by man- not by God- describes Jesus as 'boiling in excrement'... causes tension in europe? What a surprise.