Another Open Letter to Jewish Participants in anti-Israeli Protests: Have you heard about Amsterdam?

[@zrinkovranjes7292]

I am a Christian friend of the Jews. I will defend you as long as I am alive. God bless you and God bless Israel.

[@davidtyler3116]

Thank you Dr. Abramson. I am sorry you had to even say these things. It is time for some deep thought and realization. Shabbat Shalom.

[@samstits8982]

Read the Talmud it’s disgusting. If you believe in what’s taught in the Talmud don’t expect other cultures to let you assimilate. 🤮

[@totaro-o4s]

I am from Amsterdam. Proud descendant of sephardic jews de Tovar. Sick to my stomach of what has become of my city. Comforted by the wisdom of Dr. Abramson

[@Lawh]

I'm grateful that the wisdom is backed up by a nation with a defensive force these days. Wisdom is like _hebrew_ to those who don't understand it.

[@RobespierreThePoof]

I still trust the Dutch to not allow this kind of nonsense to grow. Edit: good God, there was an awful typo there. Corrected

[@magentamagenta1274]

@totaro-o4s 🥲 it’s vile and so sad.

[@vanschie3]

great that you take some time to talk about this, as a non-jew i see the hate growing towards the jewish community.

[@Alie-x3b]

I am an unwavering ally to the Jewish people and Israel. God bless.

[@webbsamples]

Wise and heart-felt words from you Dr. Abramson. Looking at that "399" on your lapel is such a statement on how we who love Israel feel. Much respect.

[@medrumtaps]

Thank you Dean Abramson for this and all your thoughtful videos. I am not a Jew but stand in solidarity with all my Jewish friends and their right to live in safety.

[@NarnianLady]

Shocked about what's going on in Europe.. especially because Anne Frank's Diary was the book many of us read while young and learned about the Shoah. To see the same horror taking place in her city is heartbreaking. 😢 we pray for Israel and the Jewish people daily.

[@geoffrobinson7104]

I am so sorry that this happened in Amsterdam. Unfortunately, this issue is endemic many places. Thank you for speaking out. I do so regularly, but I also live in a relatively safe part of the world in northern Colorado. שבת שלום חבר שלי

[@mmccbb7mcb278]

Thank you Mr Abraham. I believe it was former Australian PM Bob Hawke who said ‘When the bell tolls for Israel it tolls for all mankind’. Quite so. We have been warned. As the book of Ecclesiastes tells us ‘there is nothing new under the sun’. Keep safe out there people.

[@joangordoneieio]

Beyond disgusting. My Dad built the first Conservative Temple in Broward County in 1963. And a house for the Rabbi. Swastikas were painted on the buildings & our house during the construction . We kiddos walked home from elementary school together. Because we were being bullied and physically assaulted by our classmates. "WHICH neighbors house will you hide in WHEN not IF the Nazis come back?", we asked each other. After Oct 7 my Israeli flag was torn down & stolen from my yard in my leftwing progressive artsy-fartsy Village in New Mexico. By a diverse inclusive neighbor. It was reported as a hate crime. 60 years later & here we are: they NEVER left. Only waited for Jew hatred to once again be normalised.

[@SKAC]

Unfortunately it is the very same tolerance that has led to this.

[@RobespierreThePoof]

We don't know that

[@Hellbender8574]

For everybody who heard that the Israeli soccer fans started it, this was planned well beforehand. Perpetrators called for gathering for violence on social media and the Israeli team requested additional security from Dutch police in advance. Perpetrators brought knives and other weapons in advance. They specifically waited in ambush in places they anticipated soccer fans would walk, and ambushed a hotel where some were staying. They rammed crowds with their cars. They were waiting to start attacking regardless. The Dutch police department were tipped off before and chose to do what was easiest for themselves.

[@ColtraneTaylor]

Maybe they both "started" it? The Israeli soccer fans didn't know the attack was coming when they chanted slurs and got rowdy. Now don't change the conversation by saying that I am suggesting equivalence.

[@ericlindemann7020]

Dr. Abramson, I wish you would do an episode on Soviet anti-Zionism after the Six Day War war in 1967. Israel's victory in that war represented not only a massive defeat for Pan Arab Nationalism led by Nassar of Egypt, but also a defeat of the USSR which provided the weapons and intelligence to the Arab states. After that the USSR and its international Communist Party supporters, who had originally been pro-Zionist, went on a propaganda crusade declaring Zionism==Racism, Zionism==Imperialism, Zionism==Facism. The USSR also regularly claimed that anti-Zionism is not Anti-Semitism and to prove the point, numerous Soviet Jews also made bold anti-Zionist statements, even while actual day-to-day anti-semitism was rachetting up in the USSR leading to the mass migration of Jews from the USSR to Israel and the US during and after this period. Because the USSR supported many of the national liberation movements around the world during the 1960's - 1980's , it was able to inject these anti-Zionist tropes into the global left-wing. For example, the US Civil Rights leader Stokely Carmicael, most famous for the slogan "Black Power", would often declare "the only good Zionist is a dead Zionist". At this time, around 1970, he was living in Guinea, a USSR supported "national liberation" government. Carmicael had also joined the Black Panther Party which adopted a similar anti-Zionist ideology. Interestingly Ta Nahasi Coates father was also a Black Panther and likely held similar views. All of this resurfaces in Coates' recent book "The Message" which basically recycles the Soviet anti-Zionist tropes from this period. The anti-Zionist campus demonstrations in the US are inspired by "leftist" faculty who inherited this anti-Zionist ideology from older professors who began their politcal lives in the anti-Vietnam war protests of the 1960s. Because they wanted to be seen as allied to the the international national liberation movements, they also adopted the Soviet Zionism==Racism, Zionism==Imperialism. The ideology has been percolating in left-wing circles ever since and has only become much more visible since October 7.

[@krl970]

Thanks. Sadly the ‘enlightened’ college students who need to hear this question are not here. They are still crying over the election outcome, they are in a long-term echo chamber and cannot come out. They have no clue how the other side perceives their behaviour.

[@mikelobb-k5m]

As a Canadian Christian interested in Jewish history and culture, I very much appreciate your balanced and nuanced work. I was saddened to hear about this newish violence in Amsterdam. I have to admit that I have found the general tenor of Netanyahu's approach to the Gaza conflict difficult to justify even after being horrified by the events of Oct 7. Thank you for your empathic approach to these difficult issues!

[@thrillhouse9633]

The violence against the Jewish soccer fans had nothing to do with soccer or Dutch attitudes towards Jews. The Amsterdam team, AFC Ajax, has embraced Jews historically(due to the large Jewish population in the city prior to the holocaust). AFC Ajax have even adopted the nickname Super Joden(super Jews). At every home game you’ll see non-Jewish Ajax fans with Israeli flags along with their Ajax flags, and they’ll sing a few chants in Hebrew as well as in Dutch. This horrible incident had everything to do with unvetted immigration to Amsterdam of Arab north-Africans and their culture of antisemitism.

[@RobespierreThePoof]

This is highly speculative.

[@thrillhouse9633]

@@RobespierreThePoof what is?

[@Ukie88]

@@RobespierreThePoofI guess you’re not listening to or willing to listen to the facts. This was a premeditated attack by Muslims in a country that took them in to give them a better life and expected tolerance and integration. Maybe Wilders is right.

[@thrillhouse9633]

@@RobespierreThePoof I’m a life long Ajax fan. I’ve lived in Amsterdam and I’ve been to dozens of Ajax games. I’ve also seen the demographic shift in Amsterdam over the years. This is not speculative.

[@benqurayza7872]

You're right. This was a Muslim pogrom.

[@mcut1217]

Your words are very powerful. Thank you for this video.

[@debbyschweighardt5810]

I stand with Israel. I am a proud Jew.

[@OnlyVisitingU]

Thank you for sharing your heart on this matter. One lesson I learned on my visit to Yad Vashem (on the situation that existed pre state of Israel) was that it didn't matter if a Jew had converted to Christianity, Catholicism, some other faith/ideology or believed they were secular/atheistic - they were still Jews in the eyes of the those who persecuted and sought to annihilate them. This is the state of affairs dramatically portrayed in the play "Leopoldstadt" by Tom Stoppard which I highly recommend seeing. I know Jews where I live in Europe who are refusing to circumcise their boys and trying to distance themselves from their Jewishness. This really disturbs me greatly because I know, no matter what they try, they will always be Jews and be seen as Jews. So just being a Jew is what brings on the persecution, violence and antisemitism. Despite all my reading and thinking I know there must be more to the persecution than Zionism or the State of Israel - there must be something deeply spiritual (for want of a better term) about being Jewish that divides people between supporting us or hating us. I'm not sure what it is but, in my opinion there must be something - which few want to discuss. May HaShem keep us all safe and those who are held hostage and those who are now giving their lives so we may live.

[@KenCunkle]

Thanks so much, professor, for clinging to--or more properly, boldly standing up for--humanity and tolerance and decency and freedom of thought through what is a really horrible time. All we can do is to stay as sane as we can and encourage others to value life and reject simplistic ethnic ideas.

[@LorinCohenBassist]

Thank you. Brilliant as always.

[@JS-fm7ch]

Am Yisrael Chai ❤️💛💙

[@justcomments1239]

In many revolutions it’s the organised violent minority which takes power in the end, not the well meaning mass. That’s why the fellow travellers matter, because you may well be putting them in power. That’s what concerns me most about my old friends on the pro Palestinian protests. Not what they believe, but their ignorance at the beliefs of the people around them.

[@pheebsbee1280]

Hopefully things will change for the better soon 🙏

[@bodytalkmiamibeach]

TERRIFYING

[@gwedielwch]

The riots in Amsterdam. Amsterdam's Police Chief Peter Holla confirmed that the clashes between Ajax Amsterdam fans and Maccabi Tel Aviv supporters on Thursday night were sparked by the latter removing a Palestinian flag from a balcony in the city. Holla stated that the violence began on Wednesday evening when Maccabi Tel Aviv fans pulled down Palestinian flags from a building in central Amsterdam and chanted hostile slogans.

[@jackson76724]

🙏🙏 Thankyou for your wisdom

[@mikecamps7226]

Greetings....SHABBAT SHALOM ! I was with the B'Nai Brith group in 1974 when I was 12 and met ALL the Icons of History..... On our way back to the USA, we stopped in Amsterdam to meet with the Queen and at the HAGUE.......I was at The Anne Frank House. Touch Down at Ben Gurion and first Stop was The FOREST OF THE MARTYRS ! I am from PITTSBURGH and The TREE OF LIFE !!! I was waiting for this to START ! I was in Jewish Community ....late afternoon near SUN DOWN ....Squirrel Hill today 11/08/2024

[@edytaczarnecka3906]

Thank yuo/Dziękuję

[@glenntuneschannel]

I hope the audience you are hoping to address is able to hear this; I think many of them, especially those protesting on campuses against Israel and having joined the Palestinian camp, have suppressed consciously or unconsciously their true feelings, to the extent that they can’t or refuse to look more deeply and rationally about the situation, largely due to peer pressure & self-preservation. My fear is that for the majority it’s much easier for them to join and be on the bandwagon without a way to jump off. Looking to who’s on ones left and right is certainly an excellent first step, doable and very sage advice.

[@karlschreiber9286]

The only way to survive is standing together. These aggresions are rising many other places. So take care and stay save and healthy .

[@adamcohen2632]

So much irony on top of this. Ajax has always been considered the Jewish footbal club in Europe. It appeared that the attacks were organized, not spontaneous. Has any proof been discovered?

[@barryklarman2720]

Yes

[@gregblair5139]

As an American Jew, my biggest issue with Israeli policy is not a right vs left or dove vs dove one. Rather, it is the idea that Bibi Netanyahu - who was apparently asleep at the switch - is able to delay inquiry into both personal criminal issues as well as his failure on 10/07/2023 by prolonging this war. In other words, while this might be the "correct" policy, his motivations are suspect.

[@MichaelRisman-b6e]

Henry you are so awesome in your way of making a point.You do not operate with tunnel vision and that is also refreshing.I am a friend from your days in North York (our Bar Mitzvah aged days) I have asked my children in their 20s and their friends to make Dr/Dean Abramson required listening and they have complied.Am Yisrael Chai and Good Shabbos to all.-Michael Risman

[@rachelbryner3669]

Praying for Israel and all Jewish people everywhere!

[@phg5]

Thank you. This needs to be said over and over again. 💕🇮🇱💕

[@babababad]

An important historical parallel is the 1920 Jerusalem riot, the first major Arab-Jewish conflict in Palestine, which saw over 200--mostly Jewish--casualties, and which the British determined to have started when one or more Jewish youths attempted to steal or vandalize an Arab flag from a group of Arab Muslims leaving a festival. The ensuing violence was widespread, and it is unknown whether this is because word traveled quickly or because isolated, parallel incidents had converged to form a larger riot. We can debate, but will never know for certain, whether there would have been riots on that scale, or even riots at all, without the flag incident, just as we can debate, but will never know, whether the Amsterdam riot would have occurred as it did without Maccabi supporters on the Rokin the day before the match shouting anti-Palestinian slogans and vandalizing flags. What is certain is the fact of the casualties, which we should consider an unforgiveable failure on the part of the authorities and all the perpetrators. What is also clear is that the IDF's war conduct has lost the State of Israel a lot of support, and the resultant rise in antizionism has both given cover to and engendered considerable antisemitism. Unfortunately, I don't think this riot will move the needle in the Jewish community, as confirmation bias rules the day. Events like this only reinforce the narrative among antizionist Jews that Israel endangers, rather than protects, Jews.

[@wolfhalupka8992]

thank you, Sir, for giving this surely difficult lecture. it is, in my mind, deeply troubling that something like the Amsterdam attacks are possible, and could develop into a full scale riot against israeli visitors, in a modern, european, city. something is certainly wrong if such attacks aren't shut down immediately by authorities, and citizens of the place, at once.

[@puremotivation3937]

Younger and older members of Jewish communities bring kindness to our world. Overcoming hard times, they show great resilience. Understanding their history helps us appreciate their value. Respecting their stories brings us closer together. Every culture adds something special to our lives. Letting go of hate allows us to be kind. Everyone deserves to feel safe and included. Appreciating their struggles inspires us to fight for justice. Supporting each other makes our community stronger. Empathy helps us understand one another better. Dedication to kindness can change lives. Gathering together, we can build a better future. Our efforts can really make a difference. Love and respect should guide our actions. Every step toward inclusion is important. Making space for all is essential.

[@GeorgeM-ds9ol]

No excuse for amsterdam violence. Is westbank settler violence in the same category?

[@yehuditcollins6783]

Violence in Judea and Samaria (what you call the West Bank) is caused by a few rogue youth. It is neither organized nor permitted. It is punishable by Isrseli law and many of these youths are now in jail. Get your facts straight.

[@kristine6996]

A moment in time to contact schools and start promoting to read the diary of Anne Frank.

[@Nudnik1]

תודה רבה שלום 👍

[@ivtch51]

Hi Henry. Thanks for your words of moderation. I am a gay man and as far as I know there were places where gay & Jewish people lived, cheek by jowl in ghettos, both despised and marginalized. So, in our genes, we both know about this story. I hope some day you can tell our combined story. So, I am in solidarity with you over these appalling incidences of focused, hateful, antisemitic acts of violence. And yet I am still also appalled and traumatized by the cruel, grossly disproportionate and indiscriminate use of violence on the occupied West Bank & in Gaza. I say this although I loath Hamas, Hezbollah and the cruel, despotic regime in Iran. I say this also knowing if you are found to be a gay Palestinian you are taken to the top of the nearest tall building and shoved off. No one here has a monopoly on violence. Neither do I think it is a binary situation where you must totally support either Hamas/Iran or the Israeli state. It is an extremely complex, messy, moral situation. I prefer the saying that in our own suffering, we need to see the suffering of others. We need to be less morally fragmented. Both sides are so filled with their own pain and trauma that they are sadly unable to look beyond it. Sadly, this is a very human predicament.

[@mariad.hernandezaponte5316]

Thanks!

[@somedude5951]

"Gedogen" was used around making Catholicism prohibited. Catholicism was prohibited in the Dutch Republic from around 1600 until around 1800. The wordt "gedogen", or "tolerate", than came into use for Catholics having their churches in secret, or invisible, which created "schuilkerken", etymologically something like "sheltered churches", or "hided churches". Meaning, that these churches were only allowed, if they were not visible from the street. In that way, they were "gedoogd". Churches were regarded as propaganda, as any public Catholic worship was also viewed as propaganda, and open propaganda was prohibited. This all disappeared with the invasion of France in 1795, where the Dutch Republic was completely destroyed, and Napoleon Bonaparte made the Netherlands into a Monarchy. Personally, I believe Catholic churches should not have been "gedoogd", in this case could be translated as "allowed although illegal", because it made Catholicism into a powerful secret society, or invisible in it's schemes, that indirectly supported the French invasion, as possibly other stupid occurrences that destroyed the republic. I hope my efforts to explain some complicated history, is explained clearly enough to be useful. The Dutch Republic was born from the Reformation, and it's government based on elements in the Tenach and in the New Testament, and experience in the fighting to free the Republic from papal romanism.

[@RobespierreThePoof]

Yes, it is an interesting history. When it comes to Jews in the Netherlands, however, I think it's fairly important to acknowledge that the history is a little different. After all, the status of the Catholic Church in European political history is VERY different from the political status of European Jews. Nonetheless, thank you for sharing this bit of history. The Netherlands can sometimes be idealized by modern liberals.

[@roseperozzi6730]

Praying 🙏🏻 for Israel and the Jewish people ❤

[@Hb-me8dl]

Changes in human biology and psychology do not keep pace with the rate of social changes. Letting go of xenophobia and prejudice is not something most people have matured into.

[@beliefinjustice448]

כל הכבוד. אתה גיבור. ❤🇮🇱🇺🇸❤️🇮🇱🇺🇸❤️

[@avielp]

Thank you

[@mitchellrose3620]

I don't think it's about Jews so much as it's about the State of Israel. Obviously, bigotry exists. Undermining a solution to the disagreement occurs when "Jews" deflect the essential concerns away from view. Bigotry against religious groups aught not to be purposely confused with complaints against the offenses of zionism. I blame all religion for it's zeal of the non real. Metaphore is wonderful, but the insistence on delusional narratives is a cruel deception.

[@MyrnaLane-q3d]

Thank you!

[@AbrahamsBridges]

Dr. Abramson, do you have a video about the history of the Huguenots and the Jews? I’ve been researching my genealogy and have discovered some great surprises. I have Yemenite Jewish heritage, Iberian heritage, and my ancestors were huguenots. I’m trying to find a trail to my Jewish heritage. I recently discovered some evidence that, like Christopher Columbus, “John Calvin” may have been a converso. John Calvin’s theology was central of the huguenots, and he may have provided a viable Christian path for those who’d rejected Catholicism. Ultimately, the Huguenots became highly persecuted like the Jews. But there is evidence that Calvin may have been Jewish and even a Cohen.

[@SantiagoRodriguez-th3ej]

Thanks Dr. Abramson for your kind expostulations about the tragedy of Israel. I feel very sorry for the family of those young heroes that are giving their life for their country. Jews, Muslims and Christians got along together quite well during 8 centuries of Muslims occupation of the Península ibérica. It was when the Christians took over that the problem arises with the expulsion of the Jews as well as the Muslims. I rest assured, this time Israel 🇮🇱 will prevail.

[@drwatson1234]

Thank you for your excellent explanation. For those trying understand the basis of anti-semitism I highly recommend the book written by the chief Rabbi of England, Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, called "not in God's name"

[@GaiusPrimusMatius]

“The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.”

[@potkinazarmehr]

The Dutch have now banned alll demos

[@believeinpeace]

Our world is falling apart.

[@leogmailalbert6158]

Brilliant

[@mattnewhouse1781]

Can we sue the Netherlands? In october their police said they refuse to protect Jews. And we see they did as they said.

[@CaribouDataScience]

Proverbs 25:21-22: "If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat, and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink, for you will heap burning coals on his head, and the Lord will reward you

[@susie5254]

Three quarters of the Dutch Jews were murdered during the Holocaust. This implies--to me, at least--that those good souls who made the effort to save Anne Frank's family were in a tiny minority. Perhaps it is no coincidence that Amsterdam had this modern pogrom that El Jazeera describes as Israeli football fans clashing with protesters. In any case, we appreciate seeing what Dutch Islamists and their willing collaborators are capable of so that others, fans or tourists, will not put themselves in harm's way by visiting the Dutch wonderland.

[@thofmeijer]

So, how are we doing a week later. Do we still believe it was a pogrom? Or just another outburst of football hooliganism? It's awfully quiet in this post... Is it too hard to say you all got fooled?

[@markus3376]

You don’t say anything about what these Israelis have done before they were attacked.

[@idaveevadi]

Brilliant.

[@johnrangi4830]

Ok so it's not historically significant but that doesn't excuse the decision of a few to use violence to any group of people. I do not care what group it is or the issues there are. I understand why you are asking people to think about where they protest, that's reasonable to ask, but people should not be using violence because they disagree. In this country we allow just about anybody to protest as long as it's peaceful and without extreme hate speech. It doesn't matter if it's Palestinian, Israelis or whatever, Violence however is not welcome no matter how much people disagree. It should be like that everywhere, because free speech used in protest is how people draw attention to different problems going on in the world. I am disappointed and wondering when people will learn to keep their hands to themselves. Anyway, Thank you.

[@Knightstruth]

DO MORE RESEARCH ABOUT THIS INCIDENT. The Israeli fans started the violence and were running crazy in Amsterdam. During the soccer game they were even chanting "There are no schools in Gaza because we killed all the children." during the moment of silence for people in Spain.

[@debrafirestone861]

It’s all getting to be to much I hear this all the time it’s to much

[@mattnewhouse1781]

Netherlands coins from 1500s had name of G-d in hebrew on them. Does that mean they liked us then?

[@lottyblok383]

Shalom, there was also somewhere in scat, media people show palest. flag, write, you welcome, this is me town.....i say, that isn't the amsterdam flag an so they try kick against me......but me live, it can not bow for contrast an evil so thanks. We know that also in Netherland is who think that two states is the solution but we know, it is NOT the solution.

[@J35ang31]

🇮🇱🙏😔by🇺🇸🇵🇭

[@user-xl1sh7zp1w]

All is conected my friend. Ámsterdam is a consecuence of gaza atrocities

[@prism8182]

nonsense.

[@mireck6339]

As always it's a pleasure to watch your videos. These are sad times. It's difficult to see better times ahead. I hope that people will come to their senses again. I want to clarify that the violence in Amsterdam was not soccer related. Maccabi and home team Ajax are on very friendy terms. Ajax supporters did not attack anyone. The perpetrators were young men of mostly northafrican descent. In many european countries they are a problem, not being integrated properly. They are bored, feel marginalized, not part of this society and are angry. Breaking stuff, hurting people and confronting the police is a way of venting their frustation. The Gaza-Lebanon-crisis is just an excuse. They will be arrested and hopefully severely punished. And then we will have to solve the problem of integration. By the way, maccabi fans removing palestinian flags from balconies in Amsterdam and singing very anti Arab songs in public does not help public perception...Israel needs ambassadors who show good behaviour abroad, not IDF soldier on leave going hooligan

[@jakelippincott]

Longtime watcher and big fan of your work, you have one of the best history channels and i really appreciate it, but your takes since October 7 have been disappointing. The Tel Aviv Maccabi Ultras are not innocent sports fans, they are a gang of football hooligans who exist to pick fights and cause chaos. This is not a specifically Israeli phenomenon, it's a big problem in most countries. Like Hooligan groups of other nationalities, they are responsible for a lot of bad, anti-social behavior over the years, and they basically exist soley to pick stupid fights and smash up scenic downtowns. There are lots of videos to back this up Comparing this violence to a pogrom (ie. when entire communities of peaceful jews were slaughtered for no reason) cheapens the memories of all the people killed in those horrific events, and makes you seem less credible.

[@cringlator]

I think it’s important to add for context that Maccabi soccer fans had a rally making anti-arab chants and going after houses with Palestinian flags according to an Amsterdam city counselor. The whole ordeal was already very confrontational before the game had even started. I also just think it’s sad to see this is the kind of violent discourse people are choosing to express themselves through. Soccer hooliganism is so bizarre to me, people feel like they have free rein to be violent around a game.

[@beardeodorant7682]

Let’s add some extra context: for the past year pro Palestine protests have involved anti Israeli chants, and burning Israeli flags.

[@johnabbe]

@cringlator I saw that in some videos, and gather the team's fans have that reputation. Dr. Abramson has lost some of my trust from not at least acknowledging this. Or maybe he really was not aware? Yesterday's incident should not be used to scare Israelis or Jews, it should be used to hold accountable *all* of those using violent language or acts against others.

[@NarnianLady]

There should be no comparison between the two. Stupid words - or taking down a flag - doesn't justify battering and beating people unconscious.

[@johnabbe]

@@NarnianLady I did not say the Maccabi fans' violent chants justified a violent response, I said it was important to also mention. And that we should speak up for anyone being targeted with hate. I have seen Dr. Abramson speak up for Palestinians and Arabs in other contexts, I know he is not a hater and would not approve of the Maccabi fans' chants if he was aware of them. The video was long enough to include this context, I can only hope it was that he simply didn't know.

[@JoseAngelFlores]

So Maccabi fans singing anti-arab chants and tearing down palestinian flags are a justification for the rampant violence against them?

[@user-bo8nb2mi]

Overrun

[@janooms9482]

I don't disagree with all that you say but those Palestinians who have lost land, home, and family to the state of Israel are unlikely to give up their quest for justice or revenge. And the nature of Israel's "defence" of it's self-proclaimed state (mostly Palestinian land) and universally criticised by UN, international humanitarian and justice organisations, and many people around the world has served to promote anti-Israeli sentiments and also wrongly, anti-semitism. Israel, in promoting itself as the home and voice of Jews, makes it difficult for the average world citizen to distinguish between the Zionist and the non Zionist Jew which is unfortunate since the greatest ally to antisemitism and Israeli politics is the Jew who does criticise Israel.

[@John-c3u9o]

You do use the word "pogrom" very lightly. Dutch hooligans and taxi drivers dared to fight back against Israeli hooligans engaged in vandalism, assault and racist and genocidal chants. And some of those who instigated it got hurt and pretended to be victims. And you call this a "pogrom." That is the very definition of cheapening and exploiting the term "pogrom." You should be ashamed of yourself.

[@tookie36]

I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt. The news immidiately aired a one sided take and he went with that. Hopefully he is open to reinterpreting the events. He def did use the term pogrom lightly tho and makes me doubt him as an ethical authority for sure

[@AaronMiller-rh7rj]

Looked up the meaning of gedogen.

[@ColtraneTaylor]

My comment was removed from chat. I don't know if that was intentional. I'll be more explicit about this. While Jew hatred is real, there is also a real tendency for Jews to not care about the Arabs or Muslims. This is not Ancient Israel or even WW2. There is a justifiable phenomena where people cannot see Jews as only victims. 40,000 people, half likely innocents snuffed out. And still the Jewish focus is on this one incident with no casualities and Oct 7 (oh that has a date which makes it most significant). This is outrageous! EVERY DAY there are innocent Palestinians being wiped out. I was trying to be sensitive with my last message, but now I have to be explicit. The world including those who have tried to PROTECT Jews after WW2 will not tolerate this state of affairs. And I'm not even one of those people who support BDS! Less self-indulgence, less self-righteousness is what I want to see. Invoking anti-semitism from the BC's in the middle of a G-cide today is an outrage.

[@rightclick7266]

Your crap was probably auto-deleted by youtube.

[@Karrllson]

WOW. I am very disheartened and disappointed in Henry Abramson. Why would you tell the story in such a false way like this? You KNOW that the Israeli soccer fans STARTED the violence. You know they attacked local Arab cab drivers. You know they were chanting 'death to Arabs'. And other sickening chants. They picked the fight. And when it didn't go their way, you cry anti-Semitism? I expected better from a respectable voice like yours.

[@jaimendaniel5578]

Authorities in Europe must do their best to stop these kind of events. However, looking into the causes we may discover more than what the simplistic view of the Israelis propose. Everything that opposes does so on some shared basis. Both sides in this struggle are unable to engage in a productive and honest dialogue. Dialogue towards a common ground and understanding of what is just is not a trait of a semitic mindset. Blaming the enemy for having some sort of predisposition or attitude doesn't ehlp in the very least. The attackers in Amsterdam aren't from European stock. Also, the Israelis or the fans of the Maccabi displayed total contempt for the minute of silence for the victiims in Valencia floods. Antigentilism, loxism, or goyimophobia does play a role too.

[@dedwardm3710]

Free pal

[@Noahshumway]

I think you attempt to make some distinction between anti-jewish and anti-israel sentiment at the end of your video, but I'm left with an impression that you believe that all anti-israel sentiment is really just disguised anti-jewish sentiment. How do you differentiate between anti Jewish(antisemitic) sentiment and Anti Israel sentiment if you believe that such a difference exists? Not trying to justify anything that happened in Amsterdam but I have some questions. Do you think these people were attacked because they were Jews or because they were associated with Israel? If you believe these attacks were fundamentally anti Jewish, why do you think they happened on the night of an Israeli soccer game, and not at a different time at one of Amsterdams many synagogues? Just as you feel so strongly for the missing Israeli children still trapped in Gaza, many people feel just as strongly for TENS OF THOUSANDS of killed and injured Palestinian children. For people who view both Israeli and Palestinian children as equally valuable, the sins of Israel are seen as being much worse than the sins of Palestine. Although real anti-jewish sentiment exists, many people do not associate Israeli actions with 'Jewishness' or Jewish people in general. As always I appreciate your views and apparent candor on this issue.

[@isabelleskiss]

The distinction is quite simple, at least for Muslims: (because I am talking about an internal Muslim war on Muslim territory) Whoever has campaigned just as hard for the children in Yemen , who has called for a ceasefire, who has taken part in demonstrations and who has put pressure on politicians (ten times as many people have been killed there in recent years, many of them minors, as the population has a lot of children), who is committed to these Muslims, I also believe that he has sympathy for the people of Gaza. All others are hypocrites and liars, Jew-haters.

[@clickgear9407]

The violence against the Israeli soccer fans is reprehensible, as is the IDF's indiscriminate bombing of areas full of civilians in Gaza. HIAS did a lot of advocacy to bring Muslims to Europe, and did not think about the eventual consequences for their own people.

[@emanuelzbeda1420]

This is a qualitatively false statement. You don’t get one of the lowest ratio of combatants to civilian deaths in the history of urban combat with indiscriminate bombings. Get your blood libels out of here.

[@samstits8982]

@@emanuelzbeda1420 40,000 dead, 3,000 Hamas fighters.

[@Air-1o-j6i]

Rabbi this time we Muslims didn't do anything it was the Dutch man if you heard the news. They were carrying Palestinian flag .

[@barryklarman2720]

Definitely not the case. Look at the videos.

[@RobespierreThePoof]

He's a scholar, not a rabbi. Common error, but I'm sure he's growing tired of correcting people. So I'll do it for him.

[@Air-1o-j6i]

Alhamduillah this time we Muslims didn't do anything it was native dutch people not immigrants.

[@freehermanjose5816]

Liar! They were all Muslims.

[@RTWRTW-RTWRTW]

Alright, did the Maccabi fans take down Palestinian flags and burn them?

[@thewkovacs316]

no, they didnt

[@cronos1.2_sqrt5.2]

@@thewkovacs316 Does it matter? PLO flag should be banned everywhere in Europe. It's a symbol of terrorism since Munich 1972.

[@anthonymccarthy4164]

I have no problem at all with the complete and total condemnation of attacks on Jews of this kind and the condemnation of the Israeli genocide in Gaza and what it is doing in Lebanon. I don't have to choose one or the other, I can condemn both of them. So can other People, including anti-zionist Jews and liberals. Your equation of the anti-zionism and antisemitism is a false one.

[@tartarus1322]

I mean what other reason could somebody oppose Jewish emancipation other than antisemitism. So anti Zionism has kinda gotta be antisemitism

[@selahija]

War =/= Genocide. You are perpetuating a contemporary take of the blood libel. Do you oppose the existence of China for Chinese people? What about Sudanese people in Sudan? What about Peruvians in Peru? Jews are indigenous to Israel. To deny Jews AND ONLY Jews the right to self determination in their ancestral homeland is explicitly antisemitic.

[@julianvijarro22]

Israel was never a land without a people for a people without a land. The commandments of god have been broken by Israel and that is the world opinion turns against Israel. Thou shall not steal, thou shall not bare false witness and thou shall not kill.

[@isabelleskiss]

Read the scriptures, it says that not Satan, not a politician, but God himself will gather the Jewish people back into Israel....

[@RobespierreThePoof]

Interestingly, current bronze age scholarship points fairly strongly towards the ancient Jews being one of the groups to emerge out of the Canaanite tribes. It slightly contradicts the Torah (which says they the Israelites killed the Canaanites), but ... In effect this suggests that the Jewish people were never a people without a land. They had always been there. Israel simply emerged from within Canaan. The Jewish experience can be recast as one of a constant struggle to keep the connection to that land which came to be called Israel. This may not be an Orthodox view within Jewish tradition. However, it is just as poignant.

[@thewkovacs316]

when did god make you his spokesperson? and it's "thou shall not murder"

[@thofmeijer]

Mr. Abramson, I watched many of your videos and you strike me as a person of knowledge and facts. Except for this video. Its emotional, not factual. You leave out important facts, and thus come to the wrong conclusion. The day before the match maccabi fans were misbehaving badly: they beat up taxi drivers, they were rioting, tearing down palestinian flags, fighting and chanting en masse awful things about arabs, muslims and Gaza. I will not mention all of it, but one chant struck me as particulary monstrous: THERE ARE NO SCHOOLS IN GAZA, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO CHILDREN LEFT. Glorifying killing palestinian children, that is harsh. Especially in a city with a large muslim arab population. The next day, came the response. And I understand, that if you leave out the day before, it might look like innocent fans were being attacked. And it might look like antisemitic violence. I wouldnt go so far. I dont think it was antisemetism that was the driving force here, but rather the anger about the actions of these maccabi fans. How would people from Tel Aviv respond to 2000 german footbal fans in their city, glorifying the holocaust? Mweh, I think they would need some protection.

[@barryklarman2720]

Odd that it is easy to find video of the Israelis being attacked and hunted down but difficult to find as many different videos of Israelis doing what you said. It did happen but I think the dynamics, coordination and scale of yesterday’s pogrom are something all together different.

[@thofmeijer]

@barryklarman2720 odd that no one mentions it as well.

[@thofmeijer]

@@barryklarman2720 That was actually a video of maccabi fans, but framed as dutch thugs. Look at the yellow shirts some of them have on.

[@shardanette1]

Luv ya Henry, but ignoring Israel's crimes against humanity in its occupation and especially since 10/7, your words ring hollow and even clueless.

[@thewkovacs316]

hamasbot

[@MarcyLane-n4q]

@@thewkovacs316 everyone who hates Israeli terrorism isn’t part of Hamas

[@shardanette1]

@@thewkovacs316 I’m a Zionist Jew. But thanks for your input.

[@NarnianLady]

Shocked about what's going on in Europe.. especially because Anne Frank's Diary was the book many of us read while young and learned about the Shoah. To see the same horror taking place in her city is heartbreaking. 😢 we pray for Israel and the Jewish people daily.

[@marshallgoldberg6559]

Thank you