Top 5 Best Civilization Bonuses In AoE2

[@daniloalves1139]

I appreciate your hard work Hera you post videos everyday!!! Always quality stuff! Seriously I think you are under apreciated

[@HeraAgeofEmpires2]

My team and I are working very hard to bring 1 video and 1 short everyday for you all to enjoy. Thank you for the kind words, much love my bro

[@edupignatelli]

@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 Just commenting to top up on the support!

[@gletscherminze9372]

Cumans deserve a mention at least. Forcing a specific style on your opponent is something not every bonus can.

[@ponchopalmera4917]

I love the tiny drops of community jokes, like "when your opponent thinks you went for Magyars" 😂😂😂

[@GintonicKnight]

He said "Magyards"! Actually, "Magyard" would be correct ;)

[@Wassim-wr8jq]

I don't get this one

[@seba9705]

​@@Wassim-wr8jq look for t90's leyend of liar

[@danielfrank4630]

@@Wassim-wr8jq legend of the liar

[@nok9463]

How is he making videos, shorts, playing aoe2 and watching T90 ?????????

[@Igor369]

It is insane how Vikings, the "infantry" civ had to have their archers nerfed by removing thumb ring because free wheelbarrow and handcart is just that fucking good lol.

[@LLachs283]

Just shows how bad infantry is in this game

[@Bu11yMagu1re]

Viking free Wheelbarrow and Handcart being number 1 was no surprise. No civ is more single handedly carried by one bonus like Vikings are.

[@The_Stray_King]

Spoiler alert 🫤

[@Bu11yMagu1re]

@@The_Stray_King everyone knows it though

[@rovsea-3761]

Cumans, arguably.

[@mundolincurve7577]

And more doomed to stay low tier because a small buff might make them uncontrollable

[@Bu11yMagu1re]

@@mundolincurve7577 pretty much. Wouldnt say low tier though, but on paper one of the weaker tech trees in the game.

[@mubashirulmoula1798]

3:40 - Yes farms also last longer. Exception was fishes until one year ago. Now all fish and fish trap last longer.

[@unflushablepoo8243]

In AOC this actually meant that mayan villagers farm slower than generic. Now that bug is fixed, but mayans are still hard-coded to farm slower.

[@GuardianTactician]

My list is as follows: Mongols: Faster hunting. Huns: No houses required. Khmer: T90 farms. Franks: Cheaper castles. Goths: Infantry discount. Something that is a little bit out there in a crazy way is a mod for AoE2 DE called 10x Shared Civ. What it does is multiply the effects of civilization bonuses, team bonuses and unique techs (including unique unit upgrades) by 10, then shares them with everyone on a team. It leads to some crazy outcomes and unpredictable games. Example would be the Britons with their +1 range in castle and +2 range in imperial age for foot archers. It becomes +10 and +20 range, so they are shooting from an insane distance. Pair them with the Tatars, and the Britons finally have thumb ring.

[@Eddythebandkid]

I like Roman’s 5% villager work rate. It’s small but adds up like if you have 100 villagers that’s like having 5 free vills without using the pop space.

[@solorollo9756]

That’s why I go begalis a lot on Michi. 125 vills is 12 pop space. That’s more than goths get. Plus the trade bonus, you’re fielding 20 more army than anyone else

[@kazogai]

My totally legit best bonuses tier list: 5-Vietnamese, Conscription is free. It is great for winning Trebuchet wars. 4-Khmer, Villagers can garrison into houses. Use it as a asylum for villagers or gate for new opportunities near gold mine. 3-Turks, Gunpowder tech costs 50% less. Easy way to get 187.5 HP and 17 range elite cannon galleons. Also 13 range bombard towers. 2-Teutons, Towers can garrison 10 instead of 5. Easier to put your entire population into buildings to defend your entire population. 1-Magyars, villagers deal +30 attack against predator animals. It keeps them safe from predators. You can kill Subutai's wolves faster.

[@gletscherminze9372]

The Turks save next to no res from that bonus. The HP bonus and Artillery tech, which you both made into that bonus are way more significant

[@kazogai]

@@gletscherminze9372 I am joking. It is worst bonus list. Mentioning HP and range was for "It synergies with other less important bonuses".

[@lloydreed4721]

Just a pro like me recognize the irony. But i think the Vietnamese one is really cool

[@markusdegenhardt8678]

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[@thelastfruitcake]

the khmer house bonus is so underrated. definitely not deserving of a top 5 worst bonus list

[@daarom3472]

1. Vikings free wheel/hand. 2. Mongol hunt. 3. Free mule cart. 4. Persian TC HP and work rate. 5. Vietnamese no wood and 2x research rate.

[@ns-islandsroblox]

Khmer farms as well

[@The_Stray_King]

Free mule cart? Are you high

[@ns-islandsroblox]

It's actually a really good bonus ​@@The_Stray_King

[@2nightwehunt]

​@@The_Stray_Kingit really isnt. Its not useless but nowhere near the top5...its arguably worse than japanese drop off bonus.

[@ns-islandsroblox]

@@2nightwehunt it is not only a free 100 resources but you don't need to get any wood in the beginning of dark age. You can do like 12 to food, with berries, and then like 4 to wood and go up really fast. It's almost as good as the Mongols bonus.

[@christophpeterson9964]

Ah baiting me with Lithuanians relic bonus in the thumbnail , very nice Hera 😢

[@cougareinfeldt7427]

In my opinion, the Pole bonus where they get a trickle of gold while gathering stone is super underrated.

[@CornBredCrusader]

Great video Hera. Could you do one of "worst" civ bonuses? Like how Bulgarians blacksmith bonus seems great but also forces you to spend on techs (and siege techs in only in imp) while already being behind in eco, or how Sicilian farm bonus is actually dog-shit in that its a backloaded farm bonus that only effects long term wood savings (and you have to research techs to access the bonus, it isnt innate)

[@masons9541]

I always figured their free wheelbarrow and handcart were the reasons I enjoy playing the Vikings over any other civ. You have no problem keeping up production of buildings or units at the beginning of a new age. Wood is collected fast enough to hardly notice switching to farms and still make all buildings you need. I like to rush men at arms into knights mostly but sometimes when I need a good laugh... you can get a good number of berserks and rams out fast enough to do some land viking-style raids and just go around destroying buildings outside TC range - signed: offline noob player

[@AgeofPathing]

7:36 nice pathing

[@Wassim-wr8jq]

Episode 180?

[@thomas1644]

No way you're valuing free mining camp upgrades over faster Persian TCs, mongol hunt bonus, slav farming bonus, and above all, the chinese start. I'd even take the generic 5% roman bonus over free mining upgrades.

[@ederofempires8793]

chinese start is 2 boni. the extra vills instead of ressources would be useless without the extra-pop from tc. free mining upgrades are insane at higher lvls of play because of tempo, not because of their innate strength or cost-savings. Using free mining upgrades means going aggro early, since gold means military (and stone potentially castledrops), at which point the saved ressources are already a big advantage. But since you pressure the enemy he has to build army against yours while being behind in eco-techs. Until he has breathing room to get the techs himself, he'll just fall behind further and further. But even if he gets the techs he'll fall back in military. Both situations can snowball hard at high lvls of play. Thats why free gold-/stoneupgrades are stronger than free wood upgrades or farm upgrades, eventhough wood upgrades are definetly stronger than gold upgrades. The woodbonus wouldn't give you tempo, since you don't pressure the enemy with wood. Gold gives you tempo. Same goes for persian TCs. While an insane ecobonus in the long run, it doesn't give you tempo, since faster working TCs also mean more expensive TCs. So you only get a real advantage once you are done booming. Slavs farmbonus is also strong for lategame, but playing for it loses you tempo, since even slav farms are way slower than even standart goldminers thanks to the wood investment to build farms and slower gatherrates on farms vs miners. The mongol bonus is imo the only strong contester vs bohemian mining upgrades, since it also gives you a lot of tempo early on. the key difference is that the mongol bonus is a borrowed power. yes you get an early lead against almost every civ, but your hunt also runs out quicker than anybody elses, meaning you need farms earlier, while your enemies vills are still on hunt. thats why mongols often run out of steam a bit mid castleage. The feudal and early castle tempo is very high, but then you give the enemy room to catch up again with no real bonus. the free mining upgrades on the other hand just keep getting stronger over time as long as you keep the pressure up.

[@diegoramirez7901]

The amount of resources Turks saves in Light Cav. upgrades almost matches Artillery cost 🤔

[@zachariastsampasidis8880]

Don't they also get extra pierce armor on light cav?

[@arthur-yq4ic]

@@zachariastsampasidis8880 yes

[@why_wait]

​@@zachariastsampasidis8880 as mentioned in the video +1

[@СтаньоКоновски]

Thats after Viper beat Yo yesterday with vikings :DDD

[@SarcaZmOn]

video of the match?

[@gletscherminze9372]

I take the challenge: Vietnamese would not be broken with free wheelbarrow and hand cart, because they get half of it already for free.

[@adoringpigeon4714]

Dude, your top 5 series is always a must watch for me. Thanks for the great content!

[@nok9463]

@HeraAgeofEmpires2 What about free wheelbarrel and handcard for Khmer, because wheelbarrel/handcards best benefit is villager carrying more ( most important for Farmer), but Khmer farmer don't carry anything. I'm still not sure, because it is still 5 extra vills, for a civ with a strong eco bonus (Farmer don't need a mill/TC to dropp food off)

[@QuintemTA]

Was discussing on a forum best civ bonuses and I said Viking's wheelbarrow/handcart being free was probably one of the best if not the best because of reasons mentioned. If I was to make a economy focused custom civ, that would be one of the first bonuses. I'd probably give it to any custom civ honestly, it fits in anywhere.

[@jomolhari]

@@QuintemTA i remember back in the day i created the ultimate economy civ in the krakenmaster creator, 1- free wheelbarrow and handcart (vikings) 2- free mining camp technologies (bohemians) 3- free mill techs (french) 4- free wood upgrades (i dont remember) 5- all economic technologies one age earlier (burgundians)

[@QuintemTA]

@@jomolhari Similar to what I had in mind. Burgundian one is the chain reaction because you get wheelbarrow in dark age. I'd probably swap in longer lasting resources for free mill and wood techs for longer lasting resources and Celt's faster lumberjacks. My 6th bonus would be Chinese 6 villager start. Could also swap in Roman's 5% do everything better villagers for Celt wood bonus.

[@AnkaraAnkaraMessiMessiMessi]

The Turk LightCav/Hussar is amazing bc you will save those resources for more expensive units in Castle/Imperial and you will have the hussar instantly and you dont have to wait time and spend resources once you need to transition to it. Imo its really good bonus in the short term.

[@AmirMishel]

Damn... Bro didnt even mentioned the incas cheaper food military bonus that made incas op... 😂😢

[@icethresh]

Handcart comes in faster because you already have a Wheelbarrow

[@EdwardStone-wt5ie]

1. Vikings 2. Burgundians eco upgrades age earlier and cheaper 3. Chinese + 3 vils -200 food

[@PauxloE]

→ The Malay bonus is not just a power spike bonus, it also is an eco bonus, as you pause villager production for a shorter time - giving a part of the Viking bonus. → I wonder how these civs mentioned here would do if we switch the bonuses mentioned here? E.g. give the age-up bonus to Bohemians and the mining bonus to Malay?

[@MisterBhuiyan]

To the editor, the Mayan slower gather rate on farms was fixed in DE

[@DGrin1]

Have to have Roman 5% in here. This bonus is a small piece of 7 different bonuses: 1/6 spanish build, 1/8 Mongol hunt, 1/5 Briton shepherd, 1/3 slav farming, 1/3 celt lumberjack, 1/4 turk gold mining and 1/4 korean stone mining. Add it all up and that is 1.66 bonuses as one bonus

[@NaumanAsif]

Great video, but personally I think a better civ bonus than the Viking bonus would've been the Cumans having the ability to make another TC in Feudal Age, letting you boom like crazy and get wheelbarrow and handcart from one of the two TCs anyways... Though I am a Lel so idk if it's something preferred in the higher elos

[@donTune87]

Wait for it ... 13:58 My guesses: - chinese cheaper tech - cheaper trash byzantines - free wood upgrades burmese - free handcart / wheel barrow - Cheaper Knightline Berbers

[@Hardrada_1066]

I would have expected: - inca food discount - Viet eco bonus - Mongol eco bonus - Cuman feud TC To be somewhere in there Vikings #1 was mandatory though!

[@ryandavidson2502]

Guess i picked my 2 fav civs to play pretty good. Ive always pike playing mayans on land maps and vikings or water maps

[@Yearofthebows24]

The reason hand cart comes in faster than wheelbarrow is because the villagers are able to carry everything by wheelbarrow in order to invent the hand cart

[@Nomatterwhat69]

Vikings have the best winrate at 1900+ on arabia, according to aoestats, and third best at 1200+ elo. Remove them their eco bonus, and they would probably be last. This bonus alone makes their knights actually good! I think that the hindustanis' cheaper vils is quite close to being as strong as this too.

[@mubashirulmoula1798]

I absolutely agree with free Wheel and handcart is the best eco bonus of this game.

[@ryans8122]

Was surprised to see Mayans here but it makes sense. And I think we can see Hera's priorities: economy and hussar :)

[@MaksymCzech]

The best and probably most underrated bonus in the game is Vietnamese who see enemy TC location at the start of the game.

[@jomolhari]

5. Tatars 150 food sheep 4. Gurjara sheep can garrison 3. Incas free llama 2. Britons shepherds work faster 1. Celts can convert sheep whenever they want

[@jefferson8055]

6:05 this is a MSG IN MY MOUTH aka "The Lier" reference?

[@gmwdim]

Mayans longer lasting resources bonus used to be 20% in classic AoC game balance which made them top-tier. Malay advancing bonus used to be 100% faster.

[@dragovern]

I remember they buffed mayan farms in a patch to make them comparable to other civs

[@husainjam]

Mayans is my #1 pick on Forest Nothing games

[@youcanthandlethetruth5433]

Lol Mayans are worst on that map

[@rovsea-3761]

@@youcanthandlethetruth5433 Nah, turks are worst, at least mayans can get to imp (albeit a bit slower) and chop with onagers, turks can't chop with onagers, and they still need houses so they don't save space like huns.

[@husainjam]

I get more wood. Why is that bad? Oh…. Wait.

[@husainjam]

Y? They shud be the best. So much wood and we get even more wood. Stonks. Wait…. When was the last time i played it?

[@ns-islandsroblox]

​@@husainjamit's a joke

[@miguelsbastida]

My list was 1° Portuguese, with their early wood and gold bonus + access to feitorias. 2° Mayans. 3° Malay. 4° Italian discounts are crazy even if the civ is not amazing on land maps. 5° Turks cav + chemistry. H.M.- Byzantine trash and Georgian church bonus. Didn't consider viking to be so out of the charts...

[@-shadow2407]

Sugestion for more content "the good non imperial units", like persian trashbows or some good lightcav without hussar upgrade, pikes without halb but other bonuses etc

[@212mochaman]

Early prediction: The top two will be the CA discount for Huns and the blacksmith discount for Chinese. CA is one of the best units in the game but it seems like no one ever uses it outside of huns players cause theyre oppressively expensive. And Chinese, well its Chinese, theyre a top tier civ, hugely fkexible, and the blacksmith upgrades are the main reason for that

[@dylanfalk3243]

I like playing Turks on Arabia idk what’s wrong with me but I’m glad to see their light cav hassar bonus on here

[@TheOhioNews]

Love how Hera is a T90fanboi like us ❤

[@dasurmel1424]

Vikings eco bonus Celts wood bonus Brits range on archers Berber discounted stable Malay faster aging up

[@agro7007]

Burmese lumber camp free upgrades is good too

[@Grato537]

Still think the Goth bonus should get a spot. Like there are at least a dozen civs which, if given that bonus would become complete nightmares. (All the meso ones for example)

[@justxavier9999]

6:05 No way Hera. Epic reference

[@KelderPassos]

Remember that the Mayan bonus used to bem 20% instead of 15%

[@EddieEScott]

Stupid question but what sensitivity/dpi does everyone play with?

[@JohnnyEMatos]

Berber castle tech + Ethipoians = Shotel Printer

[@agustinfranco0]

new idea, 1vX but you get a custom civ thats identical to any other but with free wheelbarrow and handcart 11

[@xeroze01]

*quick, time to put these all together on a custom civ*

[@Hungryj1111]

Called it!

[@markovasic8319]

3:29 they don't have same gather rate for some reason

[@csandy3468]

nice video, now the top 5 worst bonus 🙏

[@doguhanaktas1262]

I was expecting Bengalis 2 vils ever age, Berber cheap knights, Malay faster ages, Persian TC, Aztec monks

[@jennystrandqvist1568]

Vikings for the win, free wheelbarrow/handcart!!! :)

[@NYK01]

i think someone has been thinking about which bonuses they'd pick if making a unique civ

[@abhishekkumar-bi4gj]

What about the Spanish trade bonus , Portuguese bonus , Saracen's damage bonus , Celts siege bonus etc?

[@ramiroj.2381]

The Dravidian shade again lol

[@martinbrinkmoller7396]

Imagine 20% more hp for cavallary for any civ with bloodlines. Effects ca as well. Would break so many civs from insane feudal scouts to massive lategame. Same logic, cuman horse speed bonus for any civ with husbandry. The bonuses are actually top 5 worthy, weren't they nerved by givning them to civs that lack the upgrade that does basically the same

[@bungle9719]

Cheaper archers better than long lasting resources for myans no??

[@why_wait]

I honestly thought Portuguese 20% cheaper gold costs is insane

[@why_wait]

They also get 10% extra hp on ships and access to a ship that hits like a Scorpion

[@k5555-b4f]

Free Hussar upgrade - hmm surprised it’s not like top 1 or top 0 even given this is Hera’s channel 😅

[@CoconutJewce]

Castle techs next?

[@williamfritz5875]

Hera likes Hussar and eco bonuses. Color me surprised. jkjk luv u hera

[@Gunsbeerfreedom87]

My personal list would be #5 Byz trash honus #4 Portuguese gold discount #3 Geoegian Mule cart #2 Mongol hunt bonus #1 Wheelbarrow+Handcart

[@Someoneoutthere395]

Shout out to my Bulgarians with that 33% faster attacking Cav

[@johanneshirsch4598]

Why is the Celts Wood Bonus not at least in the list of honorable mentions? Isn't it one of the best Eco-Bonus?

[@frydog4217]

Surely get Spirit of the law for the next 2vx

[@kazogai]

I bet the least affected civ from free wheelbarrow and handcart is Khmer. They get zero benefit for their farms. Other civs get better both farm and wood eco. So I believe Khmer is the best choice for least broken free wheelbarrow civ.

[@zachariastsampasidis8880]

It does slightly improve their gather rates actually but not worth getting until very late

[@mbvglider]

Predictions: Free mule cart for Georgians Three extra vils for Chinese Malay faster age up Hindustani cheaper vils Vikings wheelbarrow and hand cart

[@TheOhioNews]

Mayan bonus is a huge nerf for 10x shared bonus forest nothing though

[@unseparator]

Free hussar/light cav over free chemistry?? surely not

[@thelastfruitcake]

khmer wouldn't automatically become broken from the viking bonus because wheelbarrow and handcart hardly affect khmer farms :)

[@maxencerizo759]

I would have thought chinese + 3 vils would appear

[@YTJV13579]

Top 5 is too short, top 30 will be better. Are you sure to not put one of this bonus instead of camels HP or upg for light cav ? Foot archers (except skirmishers) +1 range in Castle and Imperial Age (+2 total) Infantry receives double effect from Blacksmith armor upgrades Barracks units +1P armor per age (starting from Feudal Age) Mule Cart technologies are 40% more effective Town Centers spawn 2 Villagers when the next Age is reached Can build Krepost Fortified Churches provide Villagers in an 8 tile radius with +10% work rate Military units food cost -10% Dark, -15% Feudal, -20% Castle, -25% Imperial Age All units cost -20% gold Can build Feitoria in Imperial Age Scorpions cost -60% gold and benefit from Ballistics research Spearman-line and Skirmishers move 10% faster

[@zaratrustamaster]

I was 150% sure he would highlight the MONGOL FOOD BONUS in the first place. That's all he talks/complains/praises when doing his 1 versus many matches

[@chuy27arts]

Khemer farming had to be here imo

[@ohtani2024]

Isnt the chinese +3 villagers one of the strongest bonuses? Also huns houses Khmer farms

[@lebombjahames9987]

Don't the romans have double blacksmith upgrades that's pretty broken

[@tonybelgiony2884]

Persian TCs work faster.. this is a good one

[@Dnw15]

GOOD GAME

[@rodrik8548]

I was hoping for chinese vill bonus and mongols hunt to at leats make it honorable mentions

[@arthurreede4478]

Nice video and I'd put Vikings on number 1 aswell. Although my list would be: 1. Vikings: Wheelbarrow 2. Mongols: Hunt 3. Ethiopians: 400 resources and quicker archers 4. Spanish: workspeed trade and gunpowder 5. Bohemians or Cumans (for forcing opponents into other builds with 2 TC)

[@jackbloe2117]

I got 2 out of 5, I thought you would put Huns no house, Romans 5% everything and Cumans second TC (it’s the whole identity of Cumans imo and they are terrible without it)

[@nicejob1589]

Teutons also not too bad tbh

[@TheOhioNews]

But would any of these bonuses make Sicilians viable? 😮

[@derikaem8021]

not having roman +5% working speed on list seems crazy

[@NuncEstBibendumX]

Overrated bonus imo. Vikings will have stronger economy early, when it matters the most. Roman bonus is mostly nice for covering minor mistakes early and smoother build orders

[@Erik_Arnqvist]

❤

[@divicospower9112]

First bonus and first stupid statement. Between +1 pierce armor and upgrades for free, the pierce armor is so much better. Without this bonus, the Khmers have the same hussars than the Turks. And don't tell me that hussar is never researched, it would be a lie. +1 pierce armor is what make the Turkish hussars really good. 150 food and 50 gold saved = huge. Ok so Portugese have the best bonus of all time with all this gold discount.

[@IMortage]

Wootz Steel.

[@ariisee]

Prediction: Goth infantry discount Britons range bonus Mongol hunt bonus Cuman 2 TC feudal bonus Saracen market fee bonus Honorable mention - Huns' horsey, Huns have over 60% win rate on land only Nomad maps thanks to this Edit: yes I forgot free Wheelbarrow bonus for Vikings 😂

[@jardelcestari7030]

Chinese +3 villager start!

[@tomas1629]

For turks is best chemistry free i think