Here’s That Top-Secret OLED LG Wouldn’t Talk About | Panasonic Z95B

[@verebellus]

just to put the insane colors of this display into perspective. im a camera nerd and i can see all the color channels clip at some point. That means that with Calebs skin looking fairly natural and the video not really being that overly saturated, theres more intense color from this tv than the camera could handle. thats insane

[@randallsmith2521]

Now I wonder if this means that Sony is going to stick with QD-OLED or if they're getting on this panel train. Sony didn't win all of the 2024 shootouts like they normally do (I'm pretty sure that LG won the HDTV Test one). Sony isn't going to be happy with that. 2025 looks to be an interesting year for TVs!

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

@@randallsmith2521Sony has generally flexed with processing (e.g. motion, upscaling) and color accuracy. But you may be on to something. It's a great year to buy a new TV. I'm eyeing the Panny Z95B.

[@notliosandoval]

@@randallsmith2521honestly once lg drops the white sub pixel, adds tandem oled, I don’t think I’ll really miss quantum dots that much

[@chrisrowe2308]

Idk which brand "won" the shootouts but I can tell you that the Bravia 9 I got on Cyber Monday is an absolute beast of a tv.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

It's nice to hear Panasonic's name being mentioned.

[@kaguscon]

They're always mentioned. Top CRTs, Plasma, and Oled, always.

[@hdhdhhehe6709]

Panasonic doesn’t bide by the laws of ‘MMERRicah!

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

@@kaguscon You're probably right, but as I'm fairly new to this space and can't remember the last time I heard about a new Panasonic product, it just feels nice to hear about a classic and a very nostalgic brand.

[@dy34567]

@@StardustLegacyFighter No you were right the first time, I've been following the TV market in developed countries for decades and Panasonic has essentially failed miserably in the developed world along with most other Japanese brands that were comfortable where they were and stopped innovating. Sharp, Sanyo, Toshiba, Panasonic and Sony completely crashed out and burned post CRT during the plasma and LCD races. Sony was the only Japanese company to make a comeback from obscurity during the beginning of the 4K era. The 4K LCD era was dominated by Samsung in the top, mid and low ends with LG being a close competitor and Sony coming in third place with a smaller but dedicated fanbase of the "Sony Colour Science" which referred to Sony's colour calibration of the panel. But Sony gave up their own smart tv software and opted for Google's android TV which was a really poor adaptation of android with a lacklustre user experience. It wasn't until Google finally improved it by launching Google TV (late 2020) as a successor to Android TV that sony had a decent smart TV OS; this likely held back Sony's sales for some time. Funnily it was around this same time (early 2020s) samsung's tizenOS and LG webOS went down the route of shitty full screen home pages leaving behind years of user friendly app bar layouts. So what happened to Japanese brands after they disappeared from retailers in almost every developed country? Well... Not much, they just continued to produce TVs in Japan for the domestic market. They still mostly made TVs that had older design and technology; but in Japan's domestic market, the consumers only ever see the domestic brands and are often unaware of new technologies and brands from overseas. As a matter of fact, even Samsung would be a foreign name in Japan to many people despite being the single biggest electronics company dominating consumer electronics in most of the developed world. This led to a sustained belief in Japan that Japanese brands were still the world-leading technology companies like in the late 90s and early 2000s. Many in Japan still believe Panasonic and Toshiba are world-leading brands but to the rest of the developed world, they're nostalgic brands we haven't seen or heard of in decades. But that's the past and it doesn't mean Japanese brands will remain in limbo forever. Japanese brands have what it takes to return and compete in the Global stage. But the new challenge won't be to compete with the Koreans but both Korean and Japanese brands trying desperately to survive the growing challenge from the Chinese brands. Chinese brands have been catching up in TV technology far too quickly for comfort for the current market leaders and the previously established players have had to give up the lower-end TV market entirely. They're making ground in the mid tier sector and it won't be long before they start making a serious dent in premium TV market also. But as an outside observer, I don't personally care about what company or country makes my TV. In the end, competition and commoditisation of technology helps customers like us.

[@DeesBees85]

Very strange that LG won’t just talk about their own panel, but instead Panasonic talks about it first?

[@LeezahB]

Totally agree!!

[@78Superuser]

Lg electronics and LG displays are two different and independent companies. The first one buys (Oh yes) panels from the second one.If someone should present the new panel technology, it will be the the LG displays

[@Essydyk]

@@78Superuser Yes and LG Display are not at CES this year (for the first time I believe)

[@Hussar-fm8iy]

Same with Samsung and Samsung display, two different companies.

[@DeesBees85]

@@78Superuser but in this case Panasonic as the first company to reveal LG’s new panels to the public, which makes no sense.

[@tazanddo]

Caleb, you forgot to mention the SUBWOOFER OUT, and thank you Panasonic! I have said in previous comments that I wouldn't upgrade again until somebody creates a premium TV with a subwoofer output. Now I just need to keep my word.

[@roco9504]

Really?! That’s pretty sick. I remember when I connected a sub to my 1st OLED (LG EF9500) and sounded pretty awesome. Good for a secondary tv

[@terrym540]

Last year's Z95A has a subwoofer output.

[@Shini1984]

They didn't invent external DACs yet in your universe? That suxx, my condolences to every audio nerd there. Good thing they have it all and much more here.

[@DriveupLife22]

So let me get this straight. Last year's battle of the TVs was W-OLED with MLA and QD-OLED Gen 3. This year's battle is going to be Tandem W-OLED vs QD-OLED Gen 4?

[@aprozsolt8046]

How can an RGB panel W-Oled ? Just asking.

[@AleX-techlab]

It's actually a WRGB OLED. Still using a white subpixel

[@XxXEDWINOXxX]

I don’t care what a battle is going on I’m here still watching my 18 yr old Panasonic 50” plasma 😅😅

[@poluticon]

@@XxXEDWINOXxX damn that sucks. Don’t worry, I’m sure things will get better for you.

[@TomMAF4]

@@XxXEDWINOXxXholy shit your electricity bill!

[@brodelicious]

Thanks Caleb and Co. at Digital Trends. You’re killing at CES this year.

[@calebhelpingstine9093]

So excited for beloved Panasonic to come back from its long departure of us market for 10 years

[@444chroma]

That was nice of LG to let Panasonic come out with the panel details this time.

[@dallasmiddleton7694]

I am a panasonic bro this makes me soooo happy. amazon can go ..... themsleves.

[@LeezahB]

So is the panel that Panasonic announced, the Primary RGB Tandem Panel (4-stack), for the Z95B the same panel possibly in the G5? Was the panel actually made by LG?

[@Caleb_Denison]

This is very likely the case, but not confirmed until LG says so

[@elijahpalmer6323]

Yes, this is an LG panel they hold the patent for tandem OLED

[@ramonzaions7522]

​@@Caleb_DenisonHey Caleb! You see the new Nvidia RTX5000 ???The New Frame Generation is insane! Plus Full Dp2.1 80GB! You can do a video about thath! CHEERS from Brazil!

[@AndrewB23]

​@@ramonzaions7522frame gen is bad bud, I don't mean it doesn't work I mean it lets developers keep releasing half baked games

[@micker9830]

Of course it's the same panel from LG, that will be in the G5 also.

[@stevec1099]

I was SO close to buying a G4 after waiting so long for the “right” hdtv, but this looks worth waiting for.

[@tcamm9812]

OLED needs larger affordable sizes. Also the jump from 77" - 83" shouldn't cost an additional $2K plus. I have a 98” Mini LED now and absolutely love it, I would never go back down in size after experiencing it first hand in my home. If only OLED could do the same, one day hopefully 🤞

[@migez1]

Give it a few more years. People still consider a 65 inch TV to be a big size. The only way prices on large displays come down, will be when there is more demand for them. 77”+ is still very niche, especially for OLEDs.

[@skychotic]

​@@migez165 inch used to be big, way back when 1080p was the standard. But nowadays it's not that big, and I would assume eventually (maybe another 5 years) we will start moving to 8K. These 100 inch or more tvs by TCL and Hisense will eventually force everyone else to start going bigger and lowering prices. I think 85 inch will become the standard living room tv eventually.

[@inko123]

​I'm holding out for more affordable 98" OLED models. I bought an 83" B4 during on Black Friday, love it!​@@migez1

[@993mike]

Yup - still waiting for a top-line OLED in 98-100” for years now, although I’d be happy if it was $5-8K if it came from Sony, Panasonic or Samsung as any lower and it would be compromised for sure.

[@wanye1947]

Dude nailed it

[@mohamedahmed1023]

This is exciting! I care about image processing and raw specs so Sony QD OLEDs were the only screens i was considering. Now LG & Panasonic are becoming legit contenders in both respects. Though I'll likely wait another year or two before upgrading.

[@Hussar-fm8iy]

Sony doesn’t produce displays. Sony uses Samsung display for their qdoled tv and lg for woled tv. For their Bravia mini led panels Sony sources them from China.

[@mohamedahmed1023]

@Hussar-fm8iy I'm aware. Not sure where I implied they produced the panels.

[@CyberWoogy]

Sony TVs are over processed and NOT picture accurate. It doesn’t matter if you buy an entry level model or their flagship, if a Sony TV has ‘reality creation’ onboard it is not picture accurate.

[@mohamedahmed1023]

@CyberWoogy you're right. But I actually prefer their reality creation to "creators intent". It just so happens they also regularly win TV shootouts judged by professional calibrators and industry colorists despite this.

[@troy5568]

​@CyberWoogySuch a bullshit take. Obviously any image processing software enhancements would make an image appear "less" accurate, but I wonder why in the most accurate settings, Sony TVs are the "most faithful" to reality and to the creator's intent, as when they're compared to a reference mastering monitor.

[@matthewferguson8423]

Hey, while you're there, can you please ask Panasonic to start selling in Canada? We must be the only market in the world they're holding out on now. And I want one!

[@jean-paulbourbonnais6682]

Are they going to be available in Canada ?

[@superionmaximus9900]

Only in our dreams so far. Hopefully they return to the Canadian Market with their new TVs soon!

[@lancealex382]

I like the idea of high or more sustained apl BUT it doesnt address colour dilution does it? Red and green still have the same base max saturation to my basic understanding

[@lasaldude]

Sweet. More competition. I think I sold my old Panasonic Plasma like 12 years ago. 1080i baby.

[@LeezahB]

Could this possibly be the panel in the 83 inch Samsung S95F as well?

[@SAT1337]

No. Samsung is QD-OLED

[@LeezahB]

@ I believe it was confirmed that the 83 inch was not qd-oled.

[@micker9830]

That would be interesting if it was. Hope so, or Samsung's 83", might not be so popular.

[@riptonedwards9175]

Yes samsung is using lg panel for tv over 80 inches

[@Hussar-fm8iy]

S95f 83 ich is definitely lg display panel, lower sizes qdoled. No qd oled in 83 inch sizes.

[@yucinalo]

I was kinda hoping that "RGB" meant using a traditional RGB strip subpixel layout, instead of RWBG they have currently on W-OLEDs or triangular RGB like on QD-OLEDs, since both of those lead to text fringing.

[@tabkg5802]

It's so stupid how you need a mobile device or a bazillion dollar asus pro art for a proper sub pixel situation with oleds

[@nBasterd]

Loving the speed of innovation in tv-s these past 3-5 years. Things are moving fast. 165hz 77 200nits gaming screens are pretty wild

[@griptears]

now we just have to wish for them to come to the Canadian market. I havent seen one sold here since plasma was all the rage!

[@headgoomba1984]

I really want Panasonic to go all in and use the Kuro branding on their high end OLEDs.

[@slick147]

I thought Kuro was Pioneers branding on their plasmas?

[@RE101213]

@@slick147 Panasonic bought all of Pioneers tv tech when they stopped making plasmas.

[@yt0500323022]

@@slick147It was. OP is mistaken.

[@mani_func]

​Didn't Panasonic buy the Kuro brand and technology from Pioneer when they got out of the plasma tv market?

[@highdefnews]

I’m surprised that they only announced 3 TVs. Will there be more sets announced at a later date? Edit: Just spoke to someone in the know & he said there will be another event in a few months to announce more models, but those models will be limited to Europe 😔

[@johnmartin7158]

I think they announced 3.

[@highdefnews]

@ You’re right, but that’s still pretty paltry compared to prior years. I hear another event hosted by Panasonic will happen in a few months to announce additional models.

[@zanzabar4ky7]

Why do they need more than 3. They have a premium oled, premium micro led, and regular backlight led with with rear led for smaller screens. Since they don't scam people with software disabled features they don't need a bunch of models. Just like the old days.

[@highdefnews]

@ Only bringing one OLED to the US market after making a big deal out of reentering is strange. I would’ve liked at least a second mid tier OLED option like the Z85A they made available last year.

[@zanzabar4ky7]

@ they will still have the fire tv as a mid range. The price won't be that much different to justify trying to buy a low tier panel. Since they don't make the panels, it makes no sense to sell lesser sets. How they down cost? The production is changing and they already allocated the old ones. Not to mention the cost of buying inventory space at the big box stores is not cheap. They would likely lose money having multiple similar options.

[@gosman949]

Is Caleb hinting that LG is using the same panel on the G5?

[@beammeupscottsp7952]

LG makes these panels so yes.

[@micker9830]

Yeah, unless Panasonic invented the exact same technology and suddenly started making panels lol.

[@Jza-GZa40k]

@@micker9830 True,But they are well known to “mod” LGs panels for a even better experience,Not to mention of their HCX cinema processing which is second to none from any other brand apart from Sony,As they have real Cinema expertise like Sony,Both make the best cinema cameras too.

[@Betty-y9r]

Thank you so much for this amazing video! Just a quick off-topic question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@Ayajul]

The tandem OLED is only on the Z95B, so why are you showing demonstrations of the W95B mini led tv?

[@SturmAH]

I predominantly use my TV for gaming, so this makes me very happy! 😁

[@MajorHattery]

Very cool news about the new panel tech, especially since I expect to be in the market for a high-end TV later this year. Hopefully the new panel is good enough for me to get over my distaste of the FireTV OS and give it a shot.

[@Chevyguy723]

I grew up on Panasonic, love them. Hopefully this does get fire tv fixed

[@fanofentropy2280]

So like a dual layer LCD studio monitor, but with oled layers?

[@tabkg5802]

Tandem oled works differently. Dual layer boosts mainly contrast while tandem is used for brightness iirc

[@gufiaito69able]

So tbis means that the new lg g5 is a rgb oled and it will come in 83 inch?

[@movie_av_impulse]

5:52 Panasonic is coming back with a bang and they literally are the only competition to Sony when it comes to processing and producing the most accurate colors without calibration. If this OLED is everything, it says it is well. I guess it's time for me to get an OLED.. Burnin has always been my biggest fear

[@ronniepatterson2827]

Agreed. Cant go wrong with micro led technology. Zero worries about burn in.

[@micker9830]

Owned many Oleds, never had burn in, even on my C6, that I gave to my in laws, still no burn in 8yrs+ later.

[@movie_av_impulse]

@@micker9830 it still scares me my 😂

[@tb2324]

Burn in has never been an issue for me. But my LG OLED is really bad with darkening the image to the point that a dark scene in a movie sometimes becomes unwatchable. I have ABL and all that turned off and it’s still an issue. Will. NEVER own another LG due to this but not sure if it’s an issue with all. Sounds like it given this guy said it’s not as big of a problem in this new OLED screen. There are times watching a football game, it starts off bright due to being outside. By second half it’s so dim it’s almost not watchable. It doesn’t do it all the time. My friends does the same thing

[@movie_av_impulse]

@tb2324 And this is part of the reason why I have been so hesitant is because I watch a lot of bright movies.. abl is probably the worst thing they have ever done.. I just think it's too irritating

[@tabkg5802]

I just don't understand why LG use WRGB when tandem should compensate brightness problems. One can only wish for a tandem rgb or for a qd oled with sane sub pixel layout

[@bloomerb4162]

So they got rid of the white sub pixel?

[@DanielHog13]

You & DT are the best of the best, so with much respect, IMO this "big surprise" video is simply "industry FP news" to be reported w/ other news but not necessarily hyped. Hope that makes sense? Panasonic, my old Co., arrived back in the 2024 market with a Top Tier FP & that is fantastic for any/all home media enthusiasts as you guys shared early on in 2024, kudos. They have had / have a hreat road map in place, with solid R&D behind it, for formidable FP(s) options to come.

[@michaelbakhtiar9256]

Based on what you learned, do you think LG G5 kept a heat sink or are utilizing a similar cooling structure? Also, what are your thoughts regarding color volume differences from last year, based on the in person eye test? 😊 Cheers! Michael Amir

[@migez1]

Heatsink because of the gallery design. The G4 only has vents at the top, not at the back.

[@we8463]

When will we see an 83” OLED from Panasonic!

[@zackj997]

LG is just waiting until QD OLED beats them again before coming out with MLA tandem OLED.

[@TheRokaphella]

Yuuup😂

[@notsorandumusername]

Of course they are. Would be fun if Samsung conjured up a rival MLA technology and combines it with their quantum dots. Or finds a way to make microled cost-effective in smaller sizes with good pixel pitch.

[@CyberWoogy]

QD-OLED doesn’t beat anything. Oversaturated colours and grey blacks aren’t anything to shout about.

[@Jza-GZa40k]

@CyberWoogy Agreed,That’s why Panasonics and Sonys are kings

[@troy5568]

​@CyberWoogyOversaturated is far different from having limited color spectrum range. But the fact still remains, that a white sub-pixel dilutes the colors significantly, and making the display reproduce less shades of colors due to lack of enough saturation. Talk about an accurate QD-OLED, no wonder the A95L was the TV of the year 2023, and is about to be succeeded (hopefully) this year, should Sony decide to produce a new QD-OLED TV this year.

[@thomasstyles4785]

Do you know if these are coming to Canada? I would love to get one.

[@unitedhybrid187]

Organic Maple Syrup LED?

[@TheRealBOBlibob]

I stil still WRGB or is it actually RGB now?

[@Tigerex966]

Was reading a review of a rgb computer monitor 32"..the colors were to die for. The price will kill you though. Been saying Panasonic forever.

[@BennytheMenace]

Are they coming back to the Australian market?

[@igottheshaft]

I am on a 10 year old IPS monitor, which although good is only 1440p. I am mainly waiting on Tandem OLED to come out for monitors in at least 4k, before puling the trigger on my next update.

[@akasinned52]

TV Sizes?

[@maxoverdrive8286]

I wish the Z95B came in 83” size. Considering LG makes an 83” dual layer panel I don’t get why Panasonic did not incorporate 83” in the lineup.

[@Caleb_Denison]

They will likely have one just not for the US market. They’re still easing back in.

[@KidHorn7001]

Probably because LG is going to charge a premium for the 83" G5 and don't want any competition this year. I expect it to msrp at near $7k.

[@Lonewolf0482]

Yeah I think this is Lgs panel.

[@rgoldbe11]

Is panasonic releasing a 77 inch oled in the US in 2025?

[@Dmwntkp99]

We need this for monitors.

[@pinkpanta72]

I 2 is excited about Panasonic 2K5 Oled, but the operating system and apps availability is definitely a concern for me. A TV can be spectacular visually, but if the operating system lacks consistent firmware updates, and you don't have all the common apps in your App Store, thats a big problem.

[@frommatorav1]

FireTV won't lack any apps in the App Store and I would also highly doubt that consistent firmware updates will be an issue. If you don't like the OS of any TV, don't make it a deal breaker, just get a streaming box or streaming stick to replace it. If you prefer Roku, use that. If you prefer google, use that. If you prefer AppleTV, use that...

[@acdnintheusa]

I wonder how many TV owners use the built in speakers 🔊. Is anybody putting out an amazing display with entry-level to no internal speakers?

[@notsorandumusername]

who says these speakers are entry level? Might in fact be a very decent sound system, omitting the need for a soundbar.

[@Hussar-fm8iy]

Gsync, vrr, game mode ? 4 hdmi 2.1 ports ?

[@RONderluck]

Yes to all except for the four HDMI 2.1 ports there’s only two of them

[@tmoney360]

Man I don't know what to do now. Been saving up for a while to get my first OLED. was adamant that after Christmas I'd get one around the SB deals. I had my mind set on 77 C3. Now I don't know if I should wait more. Ugghhhhhh.

[@migez1]

Wait for the G4 to go on sale again ($2,999). MLA is still amazing technology.

[@AlanMane]

Just get the new ones and be happy for a few years. Its what i did back in 2022 and as good as these tvs look im still very happy with my three ‘22 oleds.

[@boatymcboatface666]

Just bought the Z85, is it a reasonable TV?

[@gb3496]

Is the screen glossy, semi- glossy... or...?

[@RONderluck]

You can clearly see what it is right there

[@gearheadtechnology]

They have to get rid of the Amazon Fire TV crap

[@notsorandumusername]

Not likely, because Panasonic is probably getting paid for that or got a very sweet deal. You can bet your behind that Amazon is harvesting everything it can about your viewing habits (especially also on the rival platforms like Disney and Netflix) to use to their own advantage on Prime. Still, you can use it as monitor only by plugging it to mini-pc or whatever and just use the HDMI inputs. The TV itself does have to be connected to the internet, there's ways around.

[@MrMjolnir009]

🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@Jza-GZa40k]

Never use it

[@mohammedriaz4989]

Do a collab with LTT where you show us how to fix oled tvs using used parts pleaseeee

[@johnlira3316]

Wasn't rgb oled 1080p already a thing when oleds just came out?

[@carstenandersen887]

You can also connect a subwoofer to the tv!

[@Uncle_Titus]

What is a w95a?

[@MirelRC]

Panasonic's highest end OLED TV from 2024. It used the brightest version of WOLED with MLA from LG (basically‚ slightly brighter than G4).

[@Uncle_Titus]

@MirelRC nah that was the z95a. The w was the Mini LED

[@MirelRC]

@@Uncle_Titus f. I have read z95a 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️ my bad

[@momsbasement656]

Obviously, it's just a repackaged version of LG's new G series OLED panel. Except they are revealing the tech, whereas LG is being coy about it.

[@jean-philipperottiers614]

The panel is the same, yes, developed, manufactured and sold by LG display. But both LG Electronics, which manufactures TVs, and Panasonic buy the panels from LG Display, which is a separate entity. Then LG Electronics and Panasonic, among others, do their own electronics: SoC, connectivity, OS, etc.

[@WiseOne-b5s]

The cat is a leopard. The rosettes have no dots inside them. Jaguars have rosettes but they have dots inside them. Cheetahs have a black line running from each tear duct around it’s mouth, they look like they are crying, and their eyeliner is running.

[@Yagami2027]

It's so nice to see Japanese brands rising again. I really hope to see Toshiba and possibly Sharp join the race back again and see great competition by Japanese Companies in the global TV scene.

[@hastazacharia]

Toshiba Since being acquired by Hisense, their sales have been quite good. Since the past 2 years, their sales have been number 1 in Japan. In my country Toshiba sells OLED, MiniLED and Fald which are rebranded from Hisense models. The prices they offer are quite affordable, almost similar to the prices of TCL and Hisense. and cheaper than Panasonic and Sony.

[@Jza-GZa40k]

They never sank

[@MattyDaddy14]

Caleb, PLEASE ask Panasonic to ONLY send the larger size TVs to you for review this year!! Maybe the OLED in 65 and 77” are the same, but their LCD W95 TVs don’t have the same LDZ etc and ask them to send you the 85” versions please!! 🎉 (I think Panasonic lost out on a lot of 85” W95A sales this year because NO ONE reviewed that size!) 🎉

[@johnmartin7158]

Wow ! This Pana could be 2025 TV of the year. Highest quality of sound coupled with highest quality of picture.

[@ramonzaions7522]

Yes... but wee need to wait what SONY will bring this year too!

[@gosman949]

but still Amazon! boooo

[@chriswright8074]

Then Sonny get up bought out by Samsung​@@ramonzaions7522

[@Lock2002ful]

LG Oled is still best.

[@gosman949]

@@Lock2002ful we shall see!

[@rekki27]

I'm devastated that they've had to leave the Australian market 😔

[@5cent27]

Anything bigger than a 65”?

[@stjanigurka]

Yes 77"

[@balamentor2998]

Is this better than the LG G5 ?

[@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋ]

No...... No !!!!

[@roco9504]

So disappointed this tech isn’t being implemented in the 97” size.. 83” then ? Ehhh I really wanted to go bigger though… TCL & Hisense UX will be considered

[@vcam-g9h]

Sounds great but the reality is the world is moving towards large screen tvs, 98 inch tvs are common these days and panasoinc dont even offer a 83 inch.

[@Alex-o8k2f]

Does the Panasonic do 165Hz?

[@Caleb_Denison]

144 I believe but we will know More soon. Check our website for all the details we have so far.

[@officialmarios]

The backshot at 4:30 shows 2/4 HDMI ports with 4k 144Hz

[@redrocklead]

Size

[@alanrkanter]

The cooling sounds great in theory but as most people buying this level of TV have a full audio system to go with it, the woofer won't be moving any air...

[@TheDbduece]

sooo outside of the speaker system difference and OS, Panasonic and LG are basically going to be clones of each other?

[@wakaflockaproject]

Processing and colours

[@Caleb_Denison]

The processing is a pretty big differentiator. LG’s processing is also very good, but between the processing and the OS and the audio, it’s a distinctly different TV with a very distinct Panasonic look that I, for one, happened to enjoy a very much.

[@coryglueckert1665]

Only downside is the fire tv os.guess a streming stick is a must.

[@Shini1984]

They could have removed the woofer altogether to further improve cooling.

[@jizzyjake6783]

Looking for one of these fancy OLEDs for my bedroom

[@rbjohnson78]

What i would like to see is TV's coming out with no smart functions. Maybe even have a separate box for the smart features. Most OS operating systems are terrible and I use something else instead of the TV apps. Plus if there is an issue with the OS, it takes the entire TV down and you have to reboot it, and some OS's like Google, take forever to boot back up. Let alone when they are up, it still takes some time for them to function fully.

[@davidh9844]

After being sold on the LG C4 77", I actually bought a Samsung QD-OLED S90D 77". I don't have to worry about a Panasonic new tech fancy blue OLED. What I have is astounding enough! Fun review, though

[@datdudeinred]

I wonder why not they just put aio liquid coolers on the display in the back by removing the audio.

[@RONderluck]

Because that’s just another thing that would break and it would cause vibration issues.

[@btbarr16]

I see why that dude that created the blue led won a Nobel prize.

[@btbarr16]

I honestly didn't realize Panasonic was still making TVs. I don't know anyone that has a Panasonic TV.

[@Jza-GZa40k]

Loads over in Europe and Uk do and they are kings over here,USA haven’t had them in ages that’s all.And maybe Australia ? They are a quiet beast.

[@DigIntoGaming]

Why not just put a fan in the tv? I have fans on my tvs powered via the usb port and an on off switch. Manufacturers could easily include automatic fans and they would be so quiet you wouldnt even hear them.

[@RONderluck]

Yeah, just add more things that could break

[@Awhispersecho]

Influences and reviewers are way too excited about Panasonic TV's since they came back to the US. It's great to have them back but as long as they are running Fire TV, they are not elite level. No matter how great their picture is.

[@Bigheadedwon]

Fire tv isn't great but neither are Google or Roku's offering. Google gets more love for the name recognition but I'd never willingly use it. Apple TV > WebOS >>>>> everything else

[@Doug-mu2ev]

Side by sides definitely do not capture the difference :-/ Maybe if you filmed in HDR?

[@TRINVIDEO]

I'm waiting for QDEL so I don't have to worry about burn in.

[@RlsIII-uz1kl]

Panasonic seemed to be largerest tech brands in the 90s.

[@yeahbuddy300lbs]

Things really do be moving in the space

[@robertschmitz4025]

think it will replace my 2018 Panasonic OLED. Even though it has Fire TV 😉

[@johnb4905]

Panasonic had 3 models in the USA last year too. Caleb just refuses to acknowledge this. What’s new this year is a larger size OLED.

[@bigrik5150]

How about a 77 inch?

[@camryhsalem5139]

there's a lot of secrets but timing is everything.

[@derpersona]

Why does the title say LG?

[@NextNate03]

Read the title again. Listen to what Caleb said.

[@The2004STi]

​@@NextNate03 that would be too easy though

[@AltenbergerWiesel]

But the Z95B only goes up to 77". A want a bit more unfortunately.

[@cp070476]

Brilliant to see this! New tech coming we might see the 77in A95L start dropping to a reasonable price. £5,199... Naaah!

[@pocangel]

Still best tv ever

[@cp070476]

@pocangel I can believe it. I have the A95K and that's superb so the A95L must be reference standard.

[@LeezahB]

@@cp070476 Yes I have the A95K and love it!! There would have to be something even more spectacular for me to upgrade right now.

[@micker9830]

@@pocangel * was the best TV ever lol. The newest gen QD Oleds will be better, but that is how the TV game works. Next years model will be better too.

[@pocangel]

@@micker9830 what new qd oleds? samsung matte screen? no other qd oleds this year at 77

[@AleksandreMzhavia]

They should make 4K 27 inch RGB OLED Monitor with 480Hz refresh rate. 1500 bucks, I'll be all over it.

[@bigbadslimee]

3:31 I thouhgt there was something wrong with my OLED but this is just a bad quality video

[@greendusk93]

LG the goat

[@NextNate03]

O'Realy? 😂 Then why they haven't won the Value Electronics tv shoot out in years? 😂

[@greendusk93]

@NextNate03 So glad LG the goat loaning out their greatness to beggars like Sony and Panasonic.

[@swhmetta]

Seems most people use soundbars or even better, use Home Theater AVR systems. The good sound built in a tv is not very enticing. Picture quality, Size, and Price are though. TCL, LG, Hisense, and Sony are leading the way. Samsung is struggling with consistency. It will be nice to see what Panasonic does. I haven't seen the size with them yet.

[@timothymcgregor2255]

Great Panel, absolute dogs breakfast of a UI.

[@davidmckee2898]

The new 2025 Panasonic TVs. Are there any without the soundbar. Don't want to pay for something I'm not going to use

[@RedLeo-pf9yo]

I feel like I need to buy a Panasonic just for Old School sake. 😂❤